The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1790 Late Interventions
Episode Date: November 13, 2023This week, Dr. Drew joins Adam from the concrete jungle, sharing his observations while roaming the city. After Lauryn Hill's recent Los Angeles concert, Adam reminisces on the infamous 1996 KROQ 'Wee...nie Roast' incident involving the Fugees and the chronic tardiness. Please Support Our Sponsors: Angi.com SimpliSafe.com/Adam2 BlindsGalore.com, Let them know we sent you!
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dr sports 5 6 specialist over there in new york city yeah buddy here i am again uh interesting
though it's so interesting popping in and out of this city sort of seeing the changes that go on
they're really kind of palpable these days um for instance uh
we were we've been here like four days we went out to dinner late uh when we got here and i saw
something on the street that caught my attention just you know people first of all there are a lot
of people in the street which is something new since covid but uh young drunk white chicks
a bunch of them i said oh i've not seen that in a long time like stumbling on each other and sort
of like las vegas looking i said oh that just caught my attention i i'm not sure what quite
sure what it means but i i guess it's a good thing we we had that in the 80s an awful lot what do you think well i mean you know i think it's
a a sign even though it sounds ominous or something or negative but people on the street
sort of doing their thing having fun walking around with kind of impunity and stuff is is a
good sign for a city because the opposite is bars on the window
people locked inside which means bad sign for a city so that's uh let's even take that logic
further i mean you know the these young white small white women feel comfortable being wasted
on the street not worrying about their safety it's like okay it looked it looked fun it looked like a
positive thing to me but it's so interesting that it caught my attention immediately i was like oh
i have not seen that in a long time drunk white chicks wow uh all right so uh lots more going on
in the world i i want to hearken back to something and see if you have any memory of it because
it's sort of jarred. I had a jarred
memory of it
just recently. Well, the reason it was
jarred is because there was a
recent article
story. It was on TMZ.
Maybe it was in the LA Times.
So Lauren Hill,
the former lead singer
of the Fugees, and I don't know if she's former.
I don't know if they're together.
She does solo stuff, I guess.
She had a concert out here in Los Angeles, and she was late.
And then she went out and sort of yelled at the audience, you know, you're lucky I'm here at all, basically.
Not sorry for being late.
And and it struck me and it will speak to a bigger sort of global picture here of tardiness. of it, but I have a very clear recollection of when the Fugees were playing the weenie roast
in Irvine circa 1997 or something. Could have been 96. It would have been about the time
Killing Me Softly hit came out, and it would have been, or 97, but could have been 95. Either way, as you recall with
Irvine, and I don't know how much you know, but Irvine had a hard out curfew of like 11 o'clock
at night or 1130 at night. You know, the bands would start playing at about one in the afternoon,
two in the afternoon or something like that.
And then it would always end up with like Kiss or the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
And they would go on at 10.30.
And then there was a hard out.
Because the deal was, and I'll make some of these numbers up.
But for every five minutes you go past curfew it's ten thousand dollars oh wow pay the
venue that was a pretty steep look yeah you're gonna have 13 bands perform over the course of
nine hours right yeah bands are bands yeah they're a little hard to wrangle maybe they're a little
drunk or high people are people sets are gonna run long you know what i mean by the time
this thing finishes it could finish at 3 30 in the morning right yeah so what what irvine meadows
does is they just go you guys have until midnight but i even think it may have been earlier like 11
30 you've been to enough of those it seemed like they wrapped up early. Actually, the reality is I never stayed ever to the last bands.
Well, an Emmy can look for the Irvine K-Rock Weenie Roast lineup.
This, you know, we have to find it, Emmys.
You have to find out when the Fugees hit song came out.
Was that 95?
Then it would have been in 95 or maybe 96
but either way um so they the deal with irvine is each band had a half hour set right right right
and the hard out curfew was midnight we'll just say for now and every 10 minutes they went after midnight it cost
50 000 or something so of course k-rock wasn't interested in going into the curfew right no no
so they enacted a policy this was 96 weenie roast that was about right. They had a policy. You remember being on the stage there at Irvine?
The stage had a turntable.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And a big screed that just went all the way across it, like a wall.
So picture a circle.
And picture a circle, if you're just listening to this, that is, you know, 30 foot
by 30 foot or 40 foot by 40 foot, like a big circle.
And then right down the middle of it was a wall.
Like if you're looking at a pill and that pill had that line going down the middle of
it.
Yeah.
And the wall was 10 feet high.
The video wall.
Is the video wall or was it just, right?
No.
Or was that above that?
Just quiet.
Okay.
Please.
Yeah.
Big circle, line going, wall going through it.
Yeah.
Now, the backside would have the bands set up for the next band.
The drum kit and everything would be set up yeah the front
side was the band that's playing yeah at at a half hour they just started turning it yes yes
because if everyone went for some sort of uh free bird jam at the end of their set that would add
like 11 minutes to everyone's set and by the time you
got to kiss at the end they would they'd be hitting the stage an hour and a half late i do remember
lots of situations where the the turntable turning was an issue people were not ready they were ready
they were still playing whatever they were pissed i remember several incidents like that well they
didn't have their set down to half an hour.
Right.
And it's like, you know, when you do comedy, they go, you go, how much time are you doing?
You know, every comedy show I do.
Yeah.
Now, some of them, there's no light.
I go, I'll do an hour, an hour and 10 minutes.
Like, there's a clock.
I'll keep an eye on it.
But when you're doing 15 minute sets and you have six comedians, they go, we hit you with
the light at 13 minutes.
You got two minutes.
Wrap it up.
Some guys do something called running the light.
It's kind of frowned upon, but they get the light and they still do another 10 minutes,
which is kind of a shit move that a lot of guys do.
But be all that as it may, the only way K-Rock can pull off 13 bands in six and a half hours
with a curfew at 11 o'clock is to just start turning the stage.
I don't care where you're at in your set.
You've been a half hour and we're turning.
Where you're at in your set, you've been a half hour and we're turning.
I've seen him.
I've seen him in the past on comedians like shut the mic off.
Yeah.
Now, they don't do it on Bill Burr.
But if it's some open mic thing and the guy won't get the guy ignores the light, they just fucking shut the mic.
They're like, sorry, you're not.
I wish we did more of that.
I wish we did more of it, too.
Debates and things.
So the Fugees, fronted by Lauryn Hill in 1996, were, of course, 25 minutes late to their set, right?
So they got five minutes into their set, and they started turning the turntables, right?
Perfect.
Right. Guess who was pissed same woman right that that the whole point is is that was 25 years ago she does not disappoint
lesson not learned that's what i'm saying lateness is a chronic illness yes It's a fucking illness. And if your approach
is to be angry at the guys who run
the stage at Irvine Meadows
or angry at the audience at the forum who's been
waiting for an hour, that's not
going to get us anywhere.
You need to
stop being late.
It's like someone...
We owe
it. It's a chronic illness. You understand? And we owe it. It's a chronic illness.
Yes.
You understand?
And we owe it to these people to like get hold of them when they're 16 and go, you're late.
You need to fucking stop it now.
Otherwise, it's going to be a lifetime.
No, it's like drug addiction.
Like this could become a problem.
Young lady, lay off that.
Yes.
Like there needs to be late interventions yeah well do you remember uh
pamela anderson yes remember we were doing love land the tv show she was an hour late or something
and adam's goes f this we're starting the show yeah but the guest isn't here she said so what
you're enabling her cut it out yes yes i noticed i it was interesting to me that all her
sort of renewed i don't know mental health slash body image stuff and her documentary was quite
good by the way but yeah nothing about the chronic lateness and that stuff i thought that was
interesting they usually don't chronicle the chronic lateness yeah that was one of my biggest meltdowns on set ever i was
well she was like forever right she was really no the reason the reason do you remember what built
up to that i remember the publicist being at the center of it and israel was it that was this
publicist name right was it at ann i i don't recall, but I remember two things.
We were doing Donnie and Marie's test shows or something before,
maybe a week earlier.
Yeah.
And we got there to do the show and we couldn't start because Pam Anderson
was the first guest and she wasn't there yet.
Yes.
So you and I had to sit in our fucking green room for an hour waiting for
that bitch to show up.
And then a week later, she's doing our show and she didn't show up.
Yeah. And I said, this is a problem and we need to fix it.
So we're going to start. And we started the show.
And I said, Pam Anderson is supposed to be the guest, but she's not here because she's late and it's an issue and we don't be enabler.
So we're starting the show.
And then her publicist pulled the plug on that.
Her publicist said stop.
And that's when I got into it with her publicist.
Yes.
Because I told her publicist, it is your job to tell your client to stop being late.
And she said, that's not my job.
Remember that? And then we had a big argument. Well And she said, that's not my job. Remember that? And
then we had a big argument. Well, she didn't, she didn't pop. As I recall, she didn't pop right back
with that. She eventually said that she said, no, no, no. The second, the second I told her,
it's your client, it's your job. She has a problem. You better fix it. She popped. I remember
a lot of it, just how she is. You got to get used to it. And you're like, no.
Uh-uh.
No, no, no.
There wasn't.
Not too much of that.
No, it just was you can't talk shit about her being late.
Right. And I was like, well, if she is late, then I can talk shit.
Yeah.
So I got the actual official guide here from 1996.
Oh, fantastic.
But it's got all the bands, but it's sort of,
it looks like garbage, lush, corn, the Fugees, the Verve Pipe,
Kiss, No Doubt, Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Remember Verve Pipe?
Yeah, 311.
Garbage.
Goldfinger.
Everclear.
But I don't know what the actual,
Emmy can find the actual order,
maybe the rundown.
You remember, I believe a half pipe.
Yeah, the Verve Pipe.
And their, was it a Trans Am or something
he was so interested, so proud of,
what you guys were talking about in the parking lot?
No, you're thinking of a different band.
That was Nickelback.
Yeah, see?
Okay.
The Verve Pipe guys were cool.
That was Nickelback.
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This is the order.
Were the Fugees going somewhere in the middle?
Where were they?
I have them going third.
Third.
Okay.
After 311, yeah.
So what do we got?
What's the order?
So I've got Whack Pack, 311, the Fugees, Lush, Goldfinger, the Verve Pipe, Garbage, Everclear,
Korn, No Doubt,
Red Hot Chili Peppers, and Kiss.
Yeah. So it was
early in the day,
and if they get behind,
they just have to pass it on all the
way to the end of the day. And does it
say any times, like what time they went on?
So they had a
hard out, so Fujis were 25 minutes late
so they did a five minute set and they started turning the stage which is all you can do when
you're in that position you know i do i do think though it kind of speaks to a larger issue it even
spills into like israel and palestine like what do you want israel to do what do you want Israel to do? What do you want them to do? Bernie Sanders, all he knows is it's a bad idea for Israel to bomb Palestine.
But you say to him, what do you want them to do?
They take civilians and they put them in military targets.
So what do you want Israel to do?
And then they go, I'm not a general.
I'm not an expert in military tactician.
I'm not a tactician.
I just know there's got to be a better answer,
but they don't.
That that's the whole point.
What is the alternative to turning the stage at 30 minutes for every single
band?
Well,
it's this sort of world of wishes,
right?
Right.
I wish it were different.
I wish they would.
It's not.
I wish it was different as I'm angry at you for turning the stage.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm thinking about Bernie Sanders.
I'm angry with you for dropping bombs because I wish there were some alternative.
I know there must be. In my world there is.
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So, yeah.
Do you see that article?
I haven't found the article, but by the way, I actually went to that concert.
You did?
Really?
I did.
Wow. Wait, which concert? Well, I actually went to that concert. You did? Really? I did. Wow.
Wait, which concert?
Well, I went to the Crypto.com concert.
Uh-huh.
You went to the footage.
That's actually the one from the footage that they used in TMZ.
I don't know why they said the forum.
I just said the forum.
No, no, TMZ also.
Oh, I can't remember.
I saw that episode.
Yeah.
So, yeah, so we showed up.
I mean, sorry, to be fair to everyone, they're renaming everything so fucking fast and furious
out here in Los angeles that i
don't know if the forums the forum or the crypto den or the or or staple center or whatever they
just keep renaming everything but go ahead no so we showed up we did our usual ritual and we go to
lakers games and we go eat and then we but now it's different though we have a baby so my wife
has to pump so she pumps we go to the to the concert. We time it out perfectly.
It's 7.30.
We get our drinks.
We're ready to sit down.
And we sit down.
And the people that are next to us, he goes, oh, my daughter's been following her on TikTok.
And then apparently on TikTok, it's become infamous that she's late to all these concerts she's currently on tour for.
And so then they're like, oh, she's probably going to start like 9, 9.30.
So we literally walked around
crypto the entire time for two hours what time was she supposed to start so she never had an
opener so technically she was the oh the three of them were the the main act the fujis okay so then
uh she literally just had a dj playing the entire time lights off just mingle kind of thing
nine o'clock comes still nothing 9 30 so around like 9 30 my wife was like all right i'm gonna go
back to the car you know do pump again we come back it was about 9 40 by then that's when she
came out to the stage and then you know they let everybody know everybody around crypto came back to their seats so i guess this was already all planned out we kept asking
like the people that worked there like no she's she's gonna be late they already all knew ahead
of time so it wasn't like she happened to be late it's that she knows she's gonna be late
all right is she getting a lot of reinforcement on online and social media like oh yeah but we're
with you honey you know as you prepare yourself
i don't know about online but at the actual show when she did that speech like you can hear it in
the video too like people are like yeah yeah and it's like why are we cheering like i felt
oh gross just sitting there for two hours we're just getting drinks the entire time i'm not
complaining about that but yeah but the drinks are $17 a piece, you know.
I mean, you get three drinks.
With tip, you're at $70 at that point.
Do we have her, the audio of her, given that speech?
We'll pull it up right now.
Oh, okay.
Well, that's weird.
You were there.
Isn't that weird?
Yeah, I was just thinking that.
What an odd... I mean, it takes a minute to pipe up, too.
Yeah, you buried the lead, Emmy.
You should have thrown that out in the first 30 seconds.
All right, sorry.
Here it is.
We don't have any.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Also, there might be some vid online, Emmy, of them turning the stage on the Fugees back in 96.
I don't.
That's interesting.
That'd be interesting.
I don't know if that exists or not, but it's what you know, what's weird to me.
I cannot remember the Fugees for the life of me.
And yet when you started talking about them, I immediately thought of Goldfinger and Garbage.
I just thought, oh, that's kind of that zone somehow
in my head yeah and but i but i don't remember the fruit trees at all well they weren't a k-rock band
but they remade that roberta flack song i think it is killing me softly which i don't really get
this bands that really hit big doing a remake.
It feels a little cheap to me, but okay.
But they just remade that song.
It had been long enough since the Roberta Flack version came out
that I don't even know how many young people,
many young people probably thought it was an original song.
Because, you know, Roberta Flack is 72 and this thing's 96 you know so it's you know 25
years so yeah you know but uh chronic tardiness it's a thing man it's a thing and it has it become
more common or are we having a i i feel like i haven't dealt with it as much since like the 70s
you know i wonder if that's something about the way you know this current moment kind of reminds you of me of the 70s a little bit maybe there's
something in that i don't know didn't it seem like it kind of died down a little bit for a while
uh tardiness yeah i mean the way this kind of the kind of intractable tardiness that I feel like I'm flying around my life more these days.
What what we have done is we have decided that you can't judge, can't shame and you can't shame.
So we've kind of backed off on where the fuck were you?
You think it's fair to make these people wait?
They paid good money.
You know, they had to hire a sitter.
You know what I mean?
Now the sitter's got to stay an extra two hours.
You know, there's one of you and 10,000 of them.
You know, what the fuck?
We've eliminated that.
And we've certainly eliminated doing that to black women.
You cannot, you know, say, you know, maybe Ed Sheeran, you could tune up, but you're not going to do it to a black woman.
Well, it's a hate crime.
You know what I mean?
You can't go judge a black woman and tell her when to show up or scold her or whatever.
And I think they've kind of figured that out.
And so we have this.
OK, we have the clip.
So we have this.
Okay, we have the clip.
Yeah, she's late.
She's late a lot.
Lauryn Hill is on tour, and she was late, as she often is,
and she told the crowd that they are lucky she showed up at all. Yo, y'all lucky I make it on this blood-dry stage every night.
And then she kind of goes on more about how nobody supported her
when this album came out, Miseducation of Lauryn Hill.
When the album sold so many records,
no one showed up and said,
hey, would you like to make another one?
Kind of implying she's never made another album
because the label didn't want her to,
which makes no sense at all.
But the audience was into it.
Where was this?
At the forum.
It's rude.
When somebody is paying to see you,
I'm sorry.
Janis Joplin was on time.
I don't think you know that for you no i
believe me i remember that whole time sorry i'm gonna get the video there you go is it interesting
that that they went at it a little bit right they pushed back they didn't go well what are you gonna
do you know she wasn't supported when she needed support i could have imagined that two years ago. Yeah. I mean, also, whenever you hear something that doesn't make sense, it doesn't.
It didn't happen.
You know what I mean?
Like if you said, you know, if Emmy came out with a book and it was a New York Times number one bestseller and it flew off the shelves and did record sales.
And then you talked to him five years later and you went,
well, how about the follow-up to the book?
And then he went, no, no, the publisher never talked to me about it.
I never even discussed.
It's like bullshit.
When that first book is selling about 10 days into that first book,
if it's selling big, they already started a conversation about the follow-up.
Because you know why, Drew? Yeah. They want to make money. Yeah. if it's selling big, they're already started a conversation about the follow up because,
you know, one, one, a wide room. Yeah. They want to make money. Yeah. Yeah. They're not,
they're not care what your ethnicity is or what your gender is or anything. They're,
they're coming right back to you. So that thing of putting all the blame out there, that, that is pretty much always one of two things that's a personality disorder right
cluster cluster b typically these days where you know that's why they're not treatable because
they don't ever take responsibility for nothing that's happening to them has anything to do with
them it's all out there yes but also alcoholic drug addicts do that too yes so it makes me
worry for her a little bit i don't. I've never heard any of those stories.
She's enabled.
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All right.
Another thing, maybe for another show, Emmy, but somebody reminded me, I think in In 50 Years We'll All Be Chicks, my first book, that I came up with a solution for the Jews in Israel.
And I think someone tweeted me.
It was on page 46.
I really don't know.
I rely heavily on the kindness of strangers, you know.
That would be very interesting to see what that solution is.
I'm waiting with bated breath.
Well, as also somebody reminded me, it's something that I did on Kevin and Bean as Mr.
Burcham in the 90s.
And I kind of I kind of I'm kind of sticking with it.
Like I'm, I'm sticking to this plan.
And I mean, it's a, it's a teaser.
When you hear it, Drew, you're going to go, oh, that sounds familiar.
You've heard it before.
Okay.
From you.
Yeah.
From me.
Yeah.
It wasn't like somebody picked it up and it's been in the vapor.
I'm the only one who's floated this idea, but I floated this idea.
I would say more than 25 years ago.
Okay.
And like every single one of my ideas that people think is a joke,
I'm not kidding.
I mean it.
It is something that I'm serious about, and it would work, too.
Now, I'll try to set the table a little bit,
and I'll ask Emmy while we're looking for that.
We'll set it up for the next show.
But I'll tease it a little by saying, I'd like to know the population of the Baja Peninsula.
If that's even knowable.
Oh, that's interesting.
Have you ever traveled way down Baja?
Of course. Oh, you have? Well, I mean traveled way down Baja? Of course.
Oh, you have?
Well, I mean, the Cabo and stuff, right?
Yeah, but that's flying down.
I mean, I'm sorry, traveled down.
I mean, just, like, driven it.
Not, uh, probably not between, like, Tijuana and Cabo, right?
Well, picture the Baja 1000.
Yeah.
There's not a lot there.
No, right.
That's what I'm saying.
I do.
I know.
I remember this now.
Now you remember.
All right.
Well, we'll see if we can locate these things.
I'm going to be in Sacramento at the Punchline this Friday and Saturday. I think
it's selling out, or at least a couple
have sold out, so you're going to have to hop
on that. Then Fargo, North
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at the Fargo Theater. Stand up there,
November 30th, one show.
And then off to Nashville, Tennessee,
Zany's. That'll be
December 1st and 2nd, doing four there.
And then Huntsville, Alabama. Do a stand-up show there. That'll be December 1st and 2nd, doing four there. And then Huntsville,
Alabama. Do a stand-up
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