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Episode Date: January 10, 2024Adam and Dr. Drew kick off the week dissecting hairstyles throughout time, Adam shares his recent run-in with an old friend at Solano Beach, and a 'The Partridge Family' versus 'Brady Bunch' hair batt...le. Please Support Our Sponsors TWC.health/ADS – code ADS to save 10% at checkout The Jordan Harbinger Show - Available everywhere you listen to podcasts
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So first, I'm behind on Love Boat, so I apologize if you have something locked and loaded on that.
I've not been up to date on that.
I switched to the Partridge family.
I can't.
I can't.
It's too 70s for me.
I get depressed watching it.
It's too brown and orange.
Yeah.
Oh.
And avocado.
And the hair.
The hair.
Even poor Danny with the sweeping red hair across his forehead
you know it's like well it was it was funny if you break down the hair
uh because that there's there's two shows that in the 70s yeah that that will provide all you need to know about 70s hair.
Okay.
So it was so funny, and I'm glad you brought it up
because I was just doing some shows in Solana Beach over the weekend, Sunday night,
and I ran into an old friend of mine.
And, well, there's a friend of mine from high school who lives out there with another
friend of mine and,
uh,
high school friends.
And so they're out in Solana beach.
So when I,
when I go out there,
they always come out to the show and,
you know,
say hi.
And I have no idea where that is.
You're San Diego.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So sorry.
Solana beach is a beautiful little community.
Yeah.
I,
it feels like it's right before you get to San Diego.
I mean, it's in San Diego, but it's...
Like after Del Mar kind of thing.
Yeah, it's on the sort of LA side of San Diego, not the Mexico side of San Diego.
But it's funny how big a deal hair was.
And I don't think people really understand that.
No, they hear us talk about it, but they don't really get it.
Right.
So the Partridge family, there are two shows with families and kids,
and that was the Brady Bunch and the Partridge family.
Yeah.
Each one will illustrate clearly the hair and what was going on.
The older brother, Keith Bartridge, had the hair that everyone wanted.
Whether you were male or female, right?
No?
Or just male?
Well, what do you mean?
Well, I was just thinking about how Shirley Jones' hair was sort of like his, too.
You know, it's kind of...
No, hers was short cropped.
Okay.
All right.
So definitely the man what you had to have
that was it was actually a requirement and not only was it a requirement or was it a thing but
it actually played its own role in in acting it moved around a lot you know if you if you see him He has David Cassidy. He has shoulder length, long hair, and half of his acting is moving the hair around.
And so it wasn't just that you needed that feathered back, sort of long haired look.
It's that you could sort of throw it around.
And when you're thinking, you could do the scratch.
When you turned quickly, you'd sort you're thinking you could do the scratch when you turned quickly
and sort of throw it around yes you when somebody got your attention or something you sort of kick
it back so you clear it from your face it's interesting it's different than what women do
with their hair where they sort of they sort of push it back do the two finger thing yeah yeah
kind of a weird flirt thing or something touch it you know, they just do a little something with it. This is not that. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, no, I saw Jenny McCarthy do an interview with Oprah 15 years ago where she had sort
of a bob hairdo and she had this one tuft of sort of bang and she would pull it back
and then it would fall back in front and then pull it back. It was almost like you stood in a dark room and you were like, man, I can get some light in here.
But instead of moving the curtains to the side, you just lifted it.
And then you step back and it would fall down again.
And then you'd go, I got to lift it again.
And you'd step back and it's like, baby, that hair, it's not going to stay.
It just keeps coming back.
It becomes an idiosyncratic kind of a movement.
But really what it kind of becomes is like something to do.
You know, like guys.
You know, the whole theory that the touching of the face is something people do when they feel insecure.
On a sort of subconsciously,'m here i'm present my interesting you know it's way of saying yeah i think guys
back in the day guys would like smoke a pipe yeah except for it was never lit they would just have
it yeah you know they think about things they pull the They pull the pipe out. They tap it. Hmm. Had its own script.
Affectation.
Its own script.
It was like totemistic or something.
Yes.
It was like I'd hold it out, kind of go, hmm, scratch my chin with my pipe.
The pipe that I'm never smoking out of.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
And they do that with cigarettes.
Like, I'll put one behind my ear.
Yeah.
I'll roll one up in my pack up in my sleeve you
know it's a lot of that that that sort of props almost so the smoke itself became a thing in the
40s and 50s yeah like people will come out of your mouth and just slowly let it out of their nose
like while they were thinking you know the pipe again the pipe was lit or smoked out of less than 5% of the time.
The rest of the time, it was just something to hold, shake at somebody.
It's weird.
Try to make a point.
It's weird how many of these things have their own life.
It's weird.
No, I agree.
The guys, sometimes people would do it with their glasses.
Yeah, I was thinking that.
They would rub their eyes and they would shake the glasses at somebody and they'd pull them off and go, oh, we got a problem.
Yes.
I don't know why you need to take your glasses off.
Yes.
Just announce you needed a new roof for your house.
I have a question.
Do you think these kinds of silly affectations existed before movies and television?
Because they seem so, like, for the stage.
They seem so unnecessary.
I'll tell you why I do.
I'll tell you why I do.
Because back in days of yore, now I don't know about the stage, because the stage were around since the Roman days.
But the fucking Greeks, the stage directions never include picking up by pipes, taking off glass, whatever, nothing.
The Greeks were before the Romans?
Yes, yes.
Okay, so yeah, the Greek days.
No, the reason I don't think that's because guys, even way before movies and TV, had elaborate facial hair, mustaches with wax in it that they would kind of twirl about.
That was stage.
But that was because you had to see it from the stage.
It's big. I don't know.
Top hats that they could sort of lean forward.
A lot of hats.
Lean forward, a lot of hats, you know.
So the Partridge family, and then I'll get back to my friend at Solana Beach, which is funny.
The Partridge family had Keith, who was the poster child for the hair you wanted in 1974.
Throw it around, featherback, kind of long.
But longed for it. You know you know you really like you wanted that i mean it's like very it was very envious or not even jealous very jealous yeah and and so
danny bonaduce had kinky hair right but since the the deal was everyone had to have long hair and the same hair.
So there was like three categories of hair.
There were the ones who were blessed.
That would have been Keith.
His hair just naturally would fall in that place and do what he wanted it to do.
So those people were covered.
That's just Farrah Fawcett, you know, Laith Garrett.
Just hair that just came down and just landed where you wanted it to land.
There were a bunch of those guys.
John Davidson, Michael with Landon.
I just interviewed Peter Frampton who had that great hair too.
It was a big part of your – Peter Frampton's hair was 63% of his look.
Yes.
You know what I mean?
And maybe his popularity.
Who knows?
Yeah.
I don't – it's funny.
I was doing some Partridge Family research last night, you know, knowing I was going to see you.
Yeah.
Because I got another thing that's going to make you feel good about yourself.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
And I was going through YouTube.
I don't know the algorithms.
I saw me on Conan O'Brien in 2000, right?
The year 2000.
My haircut was exactly the same as it is now.
Yes.
Of course.
It was marginally longer.
Yeah.
But it was the exact same hair.
So in 25 years it just it
didn't change at all yeah you couldn't pull that off from the 50s to the 60s to the 70s to the 80s
you needed those 50s 50s hair was completely different than 60s hair 60s hair was different
than 70s hair 70s hair was different than 80s hair. We needed to change the hair.
So here are the categories.
You had the hair that you were blessed with,
that worked perfectly for what the style of the time was. Yes.
Okay.
That was David Cassidy.
That was Keith Partridge.
Yes.
Then you had a secondary kind of group, which was more a Danny Bonaduce hair which
is it was kinky but you could kind of grow it out and try to get it to do what Keith Bartridge's
hair was doing it wouldn't really cooperate but you can kind of you can see Danny try to
yes flip it like you know but it's not really flippable. It's not really moving because it's not straight.
If I get the category right, it's the category
of trying, getting
close, trying to get close to what Keith could do.
You're never going to approximate it.
But you could get close.
You could
simulate it
to a lesser degree.
And there was a bunch
of in-between guys.
You can see pictures of guys from the 70s in rock bands
who had that kind of tried to get it to do long
but it didn't really cooperate.
And then you had a third group.
The third group were the kinky-haired sort of Sicilianilian hair black man's hair puerto rican yeah what if you
were ethnic you know what i mean you're just shit out of luck yeah no i so that's the group i was in
yeah right so those people could try as hard as they could try but they could only get their hair up to Danny Bonaduce's level on a good day.
On a good day.
Yeah.
And it would change because when you watch the Partridge family,
you'll see the hair getting longer.
You'll see Ruben grows a mustache and some pork chop sideburns
and, you know, season three and whatever that is. But when you watch the Brady Bunch, you see them go through the straight-haired adolescent era.
And then as puberty sets in, it starts getting kinky.
And they all try.
So season one and two, and I'll screw this up a little.
But season one and two of the Brady'll screw this up a little, but season one and two, the Brady bunch, the boys are boys, but Peter Brady's a little older, so his hair starts going first,
right?
And then season three is them all trying to get their hair to do what Keith Partridge's
hair does, but it doesn't pull off.
And then season four, they go, oh, I can't do it.
I'm going with a natural.
I'm going with a new hairstyle.
Yeah, yeah.
And that was the 80s by then, right?
No, it wasn't the 80s by then.
But that was the journey of my hair.
My hair was straight.
When you look at the-
Even the father, even the dad.
Yeah, the dad.
So if you look at the cover of my book, Not Taco Bell Material, you can see that my hair was straight.
And then it started getting kinky.
And what you do with straight hair that gets kinky, for the first two years, you try to straighten it out.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God, look at that.
Yeah, now hold on.
The third picture is a stupid goof thing or something.
But my point is that was the journey of my hair.
But Jan and Marsha had something.
I had not thought about it until this morning.
So you just brought this up.
That women had their own cross to bear, which is you had to have the super long, super straight hair that came along your cheek.
But if you had straight hair
in the 70s, you're in great shape.
Yes. But like straight.
Stuff that would be sort of unpleasant now.
Right.
And so it's like
I used to brush my hair every morning.
Did you with a dryer?
No. But that would have been
a big ticket item
for the Corollas.
Look at that.
There you go.
Yeah, there's Peter.
All right, so you'll see.
I'm exactly right.
By the way, I ran a jam break to Eve Plum at a party a couple months ago.
I tell you this.
No.
Her husband's a great guy.
I got to meet him, too.
Oh, is he?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, good.
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FYI, it's about two minutes with her, whatever.
So I run in to my old friend, David Shulman, from my high school, junior high and high school days. He's in Slough Beach.
Yeah.
And the thing that's – so it's funny.
He had the hair you wanted for that time stamp.
Yes.
Right?
It was perfect.
And my hair was kinky and thick and shitty, right?
So I thought he was great looking and I was ugly just based on the hair.
Yep.
It wasn't the physique or the nose or the eyes or anything, right?
Yep.
And so anyway, it's kind of funny.
So like when I see David Shulman now,
he's not tall and he's not particularly handsome, but I had him down as a matinee idol because the
hair was perfect. How does the hair translate to the present moment? I'm curious.
Now it just wears it like a regular dude and it doesn't. It's neither here nor there.
You gotta remember, I keep emphasizing this whenever we've spoken about this,
but you are not allowed to let your ears show.
You can let your lobe show. I will give you.
Captain Stubing with no hair still had it blow dried over his ears.
I will tell you the move he did in junior high that, wow, I was stopped.
David, yeah, I stopped my travel too.
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So David was cool and he had a girlfriend,, a lot of life is timing.
You know, again, he was, you know, he was cutish.
You know, you wouldn't call him traditionally handsome.
He wasn't the captain of the football team.
It wasn't that kind of thing.
It's just, but the hair was so good.
And he did a move.
Now, I just had the kinky kind of Jewy, you know,
wouldn't work in any situation kind of hair in that situation. Of course, if times were different, if this was now, then I'd just wear it the way I'm wearing it now.
You're allowed to wear your hair short, long, whatever works for you.
Mold's fine.
You know, back then, it was so bad.
Like, when you look at, like, David Crosby and Crosby, Stills, and Nash, or even the guy, you got to look.
You ready, Emmy?
The guy from the movie, first episode or first iteration, Phantasm, the movie.
the hero of the movie was a sort of younger kid guy,
and then his sort of older dude partner guy.
These are bald guys with long hair.
Even if you were bald, whatever hair you could grow would have to be down to your shoulder.
Yeah, or at least over your ear.
Over your ear, mandate.
Which made for weird luck.
Oh, my God.
But rules were rules, right?
Well, so let me ask this.
Let me put a weird political theoretical twist on this.
I remember it early on being called like something to do with the prince something.
Like sort of a princey kind of, right?
Prince William.
Yeah.
Prince somebody.
Not prince the singer.
No.
Wasn't it sort of,
don't you remember it being sort of a,
having that moniker attached to it?
That's what I remember. I don't remember that part.
In any event,
very early,
not,
not by the time Keith Partridge hits it.
But are these the last gasp of Eurocentrism and white,
you know,
they call it white supremacy.
It's a terrible word,
but some sort of white centric kind of world where it was just you had to be that way or else.
We had to conform to the white man's hair.
Yes.
Yes.
And the white lady, too, the long stringy stuff.
And my.
And it's sort of British white.
Yeah.
Right?
Sort of.
You may be on to something.
And my hair would not conform.
But let me.
When you were Italian, you were an outsider.
Let me tell you the two...
I'll tell you the most...
No, do not show The Undertaker.
You're false.
Poor Emmy.
Well, he's young.
Emmy's young, so he doesn't know what Phantasm
is. He doesn't get any of the references.
The poster looks familiar.
But when I describe things, I'm accurate.
So you go, there are two guys, the two good guys.
One of them was young, and the other one's a little bit older,
and he's the one with the ponytail and ball.
So I'll tell you the only time I felt that sensation, like being able to throw the hair around.
I could remember the jubilation of when my hair was long, but it was kinky and it was weird and everything.
I could remember the jubilation and freedom of being in like a swimming pool.
There it is.
You'd dunk your head, and then you'd get up and you'd throw it.
Oh, yeah.
And it would do it.
Yeah.
And it would then lay down how you want it, of course, until then it dried and got all.
And I could remember even like coming out of a bath or a shower or something like throwing
my, seeing my hair going.
So, oh, it could work.
It could work.
But then it would dry and it would start getting kinky and expanding.
So think the little mermaid coming out of the water, gasping for the first time,
throwing her hair back.
That was the move.
I would think.
Mandatory move.
I would think that it would feel like what a morbidly obese person feels like
in a zero gravity environment.
Like for the first time,
this weight has been lifted.
You know what I mean?
So that's,
that's,
but, but, but then there were the guys that had the perfect hair for the perfect time.
And we had a few of these guys in my junior high.
So David Shulman had this blonde, long hair, right?
Shulman.
And I saw him – I guess he's Jewish, but he had long, blonde hair.
And he did a move that I spotted at the end of the hallway.
You're in junior high school.
It's junior high.
And I like, I about plot.
I was like, oh God, dear God, what I wouldn't do.
I would lay around.
I would lay around and fantasize about having straight hair.
Just fantasize.
But here's the thing.
Yeah.
I'm imagining that
somebody Emmy's age, hearing
you talk about this,
imagines this is some sort of commentary on
your psychopathology. This was
everybody. I wanted to fit in.
I wanted to get a date. Yes, this was
everybody. I couldn't do it.
My hair was so scrunched
up and so weird.
I remember my friends with hair like you would do the thing where they'd brush it, brush it,
and it would have like a shelf when they'd come to school.
It'd be sticking out like a, what would you call it?
Like a beret.
It wouldn't do what we were trying to get it to do because it wasn't capable of doing it.
But you'd force it.
I remember I was trying to shove my hair down once and smash it down,
and it would never work.
You would just try to smash it down straight.
You couldn't cut it.
There it is.
There we go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Long hair.
Perfect, you know, 1978.
That's awful.
No, but listen.
But that's my point.
It's like, quiet.
Here are the rules.
You got to have pork chops.
You got to have sideburns. You got to have pork chops. You got to have sideburns.
You got to have long hair.
And then you go, but I'm bald.
And you're like, sorry.
Rules are rules.
Rules are fucking rules.
But no one stated them.
They were enforced with some sort of psychic power on everybody.
We were never told.
We just knew it.
It was more powerful than stated.
Riddle me this.
Now, I would say that this is towards the end of the 70s, because
more in the early part, he would be
mandatory, grow out the mutton chops,
and then hair dry them
back over the ear. No. If you
couldn't do it from above. That was the older man's
move. The bald man's move,
too. Yeah, but not when you're 32.
And bald.
So, this guy,
who would have just happily shaved his head today, you can't do it.
Oh, it would have been weird.
Now, thinking again historically, some of that came from all the disdain there was for military.
Yes.
Because they shaved their head.
You don't shave your head.
You shave your head as a punishment, or the military, yes.
What was the big scene for what movie was it?
The first 20 minutes was the guys getting their hair shaved off.
That was Full Metal Jacket.
Was it Full Metal Jacket?
Well, first off.
I'm going to say it's you.
Okay.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Number one.
Number two.
It may not be one I'm thinking of.
No, no.
I'm wondering.
Every military movie had, and this, you know,
it could have been platoon,
but every military movie
started with a bunch of guys
getting their heads shaved off, looking
miserable. And many times crying.
Yeah, which you would have,
you know, you go to the barber now and you'll
see him just giving that haircut.
Thank you.
Thank you. Thanks. Let's go.
So. Oh yeah yeah there it is
oh Drew
it's not the one
I'm thinking of though
okay
yeah it's funny
because the one
I'm thinking about
you don't see their faces
it's all from behind
and they get off
a school bus
yeah they all
got off a school bus
they always get off
a school bus
or a bus
anyway whatever
could be the one
you're thinking of
but the point is
there's a bunch
of these films
and they aren't they aren't crying.
Isn't that satisfying, Drew?
You get to talk to me?
Because everyone I talk to is like, what's that movie with the thing?
And they go.
It is satisfying.
Hey, Adam, what's the name of that movie where they have the hair full metal jacket?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why don't we just change? Must be Yeah. Why don't we just change?
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It's junior high, feathered back hair.
You don't need to be tall.
You don't need to be a jock.
You don't need to have matinee idol good looks.
Just the right hair would be enough for you to get dates.
Isn't it interesting how it's women driving that?
Yeah.
I've said women drive a lot of these trends and politics.
I was tallish and not unattractive and athletic, but my hair was so wrong that I just looked at myself as an ugly loser because my hair was wrong, right?
My hair was wrong, right?
So in the midst of all this, I even for a minute took to wearing a visor.
Oh, yeah.
A visor got hot in the 70s because it was like a band to hold your hair down.
I had a visor too.
It held it down.
There was a whole – oh, God.
Okay.
There was a ritual on visors too.
Oh,, God. Okay. There was a ritual on visors, too. So I'm walking down the hall with my crappy helmet, Darth Vader,
helmet, hair, junk.
My best friend, Chris's mom, Barbara Boehm, when I was about 14,
I hopped into her car.
She was taking us to football practice. And she looked at my hair all mashed down and matted and dry and everything.
And she said, do you have a vitamin deficiency?
Oh.
It was so bad.
At least there was a parent that paid attention.
I know.
It was so bad that she thought I wasn't getting enough zinc.
Vitamin B.
Hair loss.
Who knows you, but I've been tearing a bunch of hair
out too, trying to tie it down.
No, I wasn't.
So, alright.
Now, I'm walking down
the hall of Walter Reed Elementary
in 1978
and I spot
David Shulman.
And he does a move
that was glorious
and breathtaking
for the hair crowd.
His hair is so good for this
that he does
an inverted comb out.
Oh, yeah.
He puts his head down,
puts his head toward,
top of his head toward the ground
and does a backwards comb.
Yeah, and then flips.
Now, if I'd done that,
my hair just would be standing straight up.
It would never move.
No, no.
Does the inverted comb out, flip,
but it does a double pump.
Double?
He comes in and out and he goes, pop, pop, boom.
And his hair just sails back
and all lands perfectly
in the feather department and I was like
oh shit
oh what I wouldn't give
at that point
I would have prayed if someone would have said
this is painful and horrible
I said look if you would have said to me
then you can have that hair
but you're not going to see
your 32nd birthday I would have went let's
do it you know i would have negotiated so 34 34 32 all right all right i would have done it hey
there was some data out came out this week that suggested that athletes would uh cut their life
expectancy down to like in their 30s if they could win everything with performance enhancing something?
Oh, yeah.
Well, listen, first off, when you're desperate and poor and stuff like that,
I would have signed a lot of contracts when I was 19 that says like,
you're not going to see your 50th birthday, but you will make $80,000 a year.
I would have been like, give me that paper.
For sure.
100%.
I mean, it's the same thing.
You know, who mules drugs in from Mexico?
You know, it's like, well, you can make $14,000 for one trip, but you could do 28 years in
federal prison.
Poor people go, give me the contract.
Right?
Yeah.
Desperation creates a lot of strange behavior.
All right.
Now, the thing that's going to make you feel good about yourself, Drew, I'm going to save.
I'm saving it.
I'm saving it until tomorrow's show.
You talk too much about hair.
I'm going to be in Grand Junction, Colorado at the Mesa Theater coming up January 26.
Two shows.
And then Estes Park, Colorado.
That's at the Stanley Hotel.
That's where they did The Shining, Drew.
Yep.
Two shows.
I've never been there.
I'm excited.
It'll be exciting, man.
Naples, Florida coming up.
That'll be February 2nd, February 3rd.
Wait, hold on a second.
The event is at the hotel?
Yeah, the hotel has a room.
Is there like a
shining tour
you could take
I'm sure
I'm sure
oh my god
yeah I'm in
I am into this
alright so
just go to
adamcroll.com
for all the live shows
what do you got Drew
go to dr.com
for everything
dr.tv
for the streaming show
which is
we're really
what I'm focusing
on these days
it's Tuesday
Wednesday Thursday
three o'clock
very interesting
stuff going on there.
Also, After Dark, we stopped producing After Dark.
There's all kinds of strange, of course, you stop saying.
People go, what happened?
You don't like them anymore.
No, I love everybody over there.
We stopped doing it mutually.
It was all cool.
And so no more After Dark, but lots of stuff to come.
And maybe some stuff you and me, I want to propose to you too.
So we'll see.
We've got 2024.
We can do better.
It's my new model.
So until next time, Adam Krofer, Dr. Usain.
Mahalo.
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