The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1815 Having Some Dance
Episode Date: January 18, 2024Today, Dr. Drew sails into the show on 'The Love Boat', they discuss the movements of older actors back in the day, and important things from a by gone era than don't carry forward in time. Plus, a li...ttle Civil War history and Whoopi's scared of dictator Donald. Please Support Our Sponsors: TWC.health/ADS – code ADS to save 10% at checkout The Jordan Harbinger Show - Available everywhere you list to podcasts
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So, do a little hot love boat talk, if you don't mind.
You good for that?
Yeah, I haven't been keeping up.
Oh, damn.
But I've seen every love boat episode.
You mean you haven't done your deep dives and stuff when you watch them?
What does keeping up mean for you?
I've seen every episode of the love boat, but I haven't been keeping up.
Got it.
You've studied chemistry.
Yes, yes.
But you haven't taken a quiz lately.
It's like I went to the lectures, but I haven't been keeping up.
Yes.
No, it's like saying you learned all this stuff at some point, but you're not currently studying it.
Got it.
I thought that was clear.
On the latest episode, Arthur Godfrey is on that.
Did you see that one?
With the mini pearl?
They were from the old folks' home.
Yeah.
I did a deep dive on him.
And I'm just curious, when you saw him, did you have a reaction at all to him?
Did you know him from our days in the early 60s and 70s television?
I guess I would have to see a photograph of him to see if it elicited a response from me.
From the 70s.
Well, he was sort of kind of like Charles Nelson Reilly.
He was on a bunch of stuff back then.
Yeah, yeah.
And goddammit, his Wikipedia page was like 40 pages long.
Yeah.
And I started thinking – he had a famous radio show.
Yeah, yeah.
Conflicts and scandals and this and that.
No idea.
And I started thinking about all the stuff that you miss culturally if you didn't live through it.
There's so much stuff that gets left behind.
I remember my father talking about certain big band singers and stuff.
You know who that is?
He was a movie star too.
It was Dick Heyman or something.
I'm like, there's Arthur Godfrey.
Is that familiar?
Yeah, kind of.
I mean, obviously this is 15 years before the love boat yeah he by the way was
another one dead a couple years after the life they died right after they went on a love boat
uh yeah but i had a couple reactions that one was he moved i thought about how uh
what was that movie about the mobsters uh with uh some of the – that Scorsese did with some of the older actors.
Anyway, they did some sort of CG.
Drew never writes anything down or does his homework.
Irishman?
Irishman.
They did some sort of CGI with the actors.
And when they're in fights, the one thing that struck me was, oh, they don't move like young men.
They move like old men with their joints not quite move right and stuff.
Arthur Godfrey moved like a young man at 75 or whatever he was, 72 in this thing. And I thought,
oh, what is that? He's like getting around. I guess he had sort of a song and dance background.
So it's interesting how people can kind of keep it. Well, but I mean, not...
No, no, it's an interesting point because when I was watching the Partridge family and I told you that, oh God, we were talking about him.
Stupid of me, but the scarecrow.
Bob Bolger, Ray Bolger.
Ray Bolger.
Ray Bolger.
Ray Bolger.
Ray Bolger was older when he did the Partridge Family.
He was like jumping out of the back of a pickup truck and kind of moving around.
And he looked real spry, you know, and for a 68-year-old guy or whatever it is, he moved well.
And I remember sort of taking notice that I was like, this guy's old and he moves well.
It's striking if you pay attention.
When you see it, it's like it gets you.
Right.
So there is something to being the song and dance or at least the dance.
Having some dance, yeah.
Having some dance and that kind of coordination and control and rhythm and stuff.
And doing it for prolonged periods of time, you move pretty well.
Yeah.
And it's also a kind of a repetition thing.
Like eyeshadow box, I don't know, twice a week or something like that.
But I was thinking about it the other day,
and I was like, as I'm knocking on the door of 60, I was like, my hands move pretty good.
Like I don't punch like an old man, you know.
But it's just doing it, you know, periodically or semi-consistently. And not having joint problems.
Oh, yeah.
But a lot of muscle memory.
Yes, yes.
I agree.
So those guys could move when they were older with that muscle memory.
100%.
Yes.
100%.
So it's just odd.
And, yeah, it just struck me as interesting.
You know, we talk about things, you and I, and we're always sort of amazed when the staff here doesn't know what we're talking about.
It's like, oh, you're honest.
But there is this phenomenon where things were so important in the time and they don't carry forward.
Yes.
But by the same token, there are things that do carry forward or do have a life of their own going forward.
And it's sort of candy.
You know, maybe it has to do with a negative and a positive thing.
Like it's 2024.
We've never talked more about Hitler or slavery.
Yeah.
We never stopped talking about Hitler and slavery.
I don't think Joe Biden makes a speech that doesn't involve Hitlerian whatever or slavery.
When it would come up in the 70s, it was to make fun of.
It was mocking.
It was Hogan's Heroes.
Yeah. And then by the time the 90s came around, like it just didn't come up. the 70s, it was to make fun of. It was mocking. It was Hogan's Heroes. Yeah, and then by the time the 90s came around,
like, it just didn't come up.
At all.
Well, it was like...
No, it really didn't come up.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Like, we would...
You wouldn't talk about slavery
like you wouldn't talk about the Merrimack and the Monitor.
You know, there's...
Anyone know what the Merrimack and the Monitor is?
Please, please, please.
A little Civil War history you know but
see that's not i wasn't born then either they're things people i'm not old like you pops yeah
except for they're just shit you learn when you're 14 that i guess we've given up on
they were the first like iron clad ships and the one was on the Union side and one was on the Confederate side. Yeah, the first weird kind of, I wouldn't even call them battleships.
One was almost a submarine with a cannon on the top.
Yeah, but we don't talk about it to the point is these two guys don't know what the fuck
the Merrimack and the Monitor are.
And the reason they don't know what it is is because nobody talks about it because it's
a bygone era and it doesn't really, it's neither here nor there in terms of today's shipbuilding and anything that
you guys need to know.
You know what I don't remember is they,
they,
they eventually met and one won.
I think the,
the one with the single turret won.
Yeah.
Makes sense.
And also like old Ironside wasn't an Ironside boat.
Did you know that?
I guess I never thought.
I just assumed it.
No, I never.
No.
I think Ironside, first off, anyone who's worked with oak, it is fucking rock hard.
Yeah, yeah.
It is rock hard.
I always assumed it meant the wood.
Yeah, that it was.
Ironside is just.
It was still everything
it's just you know i think it's like a first boat that had like six inches of oak on the side of it
it's like they couldn't cannonball couldn't do anything to it pretty sure anyway the monitor
won the uh won the battle uh the point is is we didn't really need to talk about hitler we didn't
need to talk about slavery just like we didn't need to talk about the Merrimack and the monitor.
It was just something that happened that doesn't really affect us now.
You know what I mean?
Now, hysterical politicians and fucking insane race hustlers never stop talking about Hitler and slavery, but it's only because they're trying to agitate the population and get votes,
which is really irresponsible and kind of scary and weird.
Do you think with all the anti-Semitism,
we're going to see less Hitler talk?
Wouldn't that be interesting?
I don't know.
He was a bad guy who's been dead for 90 years.
I don't know what else to do.
I had 83 years or whatever it is.
I don't know what else to tell you about Adolf Hitler.
It's very strange how this country has brought a lot of stuff forward.
Well, it's not – it's –
Post-structuralism is the other thing.
A French philosophy that the French have been done with for 75 years.
And we've decided that's the way
to assess reality. Well, as we discussed in a previous show, Biden is talking about book banning.
You know what I mean? Like we're getting into, you know, scenes of taking the books and burning
them in the town square. You know what I mean? That's what they that's what they want. They want to live in a bygone era to scare dingbats into voting for them.
But their policies suck. But don't worry. You know, the border will be porous and the schools won't work and gas will be expensive, but will not be burning any books in the town square and there'll be no rise of an Adolf Hitler who
wants to return to slavery.
So this basically what I'm saying is, look, vote for me.
I'm not really going to do anything from a policy standpoint, but I will prevent this
country from being taken over by Adolf Hitler and slavery being reinstituted, along with book burnings.
And women are, the gays and women
will have a right to choose and not be marginalized.
You know, like Whoopi said.
Did you see Whoopi?
It's great, right?
All right, so he won't have to round up the gays.
All right.
And the journalists.
And the journalists. Now, I'm not going to do round up the gays. All right. And the journalists. And the journalists.
Now, I'm not going to do anything in terms of energy prices or taxation or regulation.
That'll be, well, we're never going to bring it up.
We're going to focus on gays being rounded up.
Now, this is appealing to a group.
I think it would have been appealing to my mom.
But the problem is,
is the group dwindles every year
something goes by and the gays aren't rounded up.
My daughter fell victim to it the first Trump presidency.
She was like, my friends, they're going to get,
they're going to round up.
I was like, they're going to what?
Where did you get that from?
Well, we might as well play it just because it makes Whoopi seem insane.
And frankly, it makes everyone at the desk seem insane because they just nod, as Tucker Carlson would say, in bovine agreement.
They just nod like fucking cows just chewing on some cud.
You know what I mean?
No one raises their hand and goes, I have no idea what you're talking about.
All right.
I'm going to be on day one, I'm going to be a dictator.
Who says it to you, tells you.
I'm going to put you people away.
I'm going to take all the journalists.
I'm going to take all the gay folks.
I'm going to move you all around and disappear you.
If that's the country you want, you know who to vote for.
If that's not the country you want, you have to make a decision.
Oh, man.
So I'd rather have the high gas prices and the open border and the sanctuary cities in the crime than move around gaping.
By the way, if that was the choice, I would go for the high crime and the gas, but it's not the choice.
Nobody's moving around.
Yeah, it's not the kids, not the droids. Yeah. Nobody's moving around. Yeah.
It's bizarre.
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All right. willful misinterpretations of things that are pretty clear,
which I find fascinating.
Usually hysteria, right?
It's frustrating, but it's also kind of fascinating,
and it does fall under the heading of chick think a lot of the time,
although many men will definitely participate in
it because remember you know we live in california we had mayor garcetti chick think we have gavin
newsom chick think and now we have karen bass mayor chick think you know and it's all they're
all that's two out of three are dudes but they think like chicks and they react like chicks. They sort of – that's the way they approach things.
Process, not solution.
Not – opposite of pragmatism.
They like the process.
They don't like – results are sort of neither here nor there.
But discussion groups on it are definitely important.
Yeah. So when people miss, you know, you know, Trump said inject bleach into your veins and, you know, good people on both sides and all this kind of stuff.
It's a willful misinterpretation by people who are in the news.
Now, you could say, well, Whoopi Goldberg's not a news reporter, but she has a job where she sits for an hour every
day and interprets the news. You know what I mean? And then dispatches it to a large group of people
who tend to believe what she says, or at least believe she believes what she said. You know,
Trump from day one said he was going to be a dictator. A nine-year-old can, if shown the tape with Sean Hannity, can decipher that.
He said he was going to be a dictator from day one, but only for one day. And he was going to
close the border and drill. Which, by the way, two things a president can do without being a
dictator, because look no further than Biden, who opened
the border and stopped the drilling.
So if that's dictatorial, well, then look no further than Biden.
But so he said for one day only, and he said, I'm going to do two things that have that
are within the rights of a president have nothing to do with the dictator. So Whoopi Goldberg, many people at MSNBC and CNN,
and many people on the left, reporters and politicians and the like,
understood that as him saying out loud he was planning on being a dictator.
Now, they don't believe it is what I'm saying. And that's the
disappointing part. That's the part that I didn't really anticipate. I didn't anticipate Whoopi
Goldberg making an ass of herself. You know what I mean? Like in life. I didn't, you know, and I,
I would never, never engage in that. And, and I would And it would be weird to me if somebody said something that was sort of hyperbolic about, oh, I wish this guy was dead or something.
I go, he said he's planning on killing him.
You know what I mean?
Like a willful misinterpretation.
Willful.
Like not, oh, I was confused.
You know damn well what he said.
And so does everyone who's reporting on it. And yet you're going to twist it now.
But you see, they don't just do it with him, though. Oh, they'll do it with anybody.
I mean, they do. They're doing it all the time. And he and he says they're going to do it. And then they do it.
Listen, the young turds said that I shouldn't i don't believe but kids should
get fed you know or whatever it is i i couldn't in my when they were breaking down the game film
they were playing audio of me saying i don't care about the money i want you to take care of your
own children it's that's what this is about it not about pay. And then they'd come back to the studio and go,
Adam Carolla says he doesn't want to pay.
They need to be mocked.
Well, I just call them the young turds.
So,
I don't think that's their actual
name. No, it's not?
No. They're fucking idiots.
Now, the scary
part is they're not dumb.
They hear a tape of me.
It's all laid out.
I couldn't have been clearer, and they willfully misinterpret it.
But they're dumb in the sense that they physically played the tape of me saying I don't care about the thing they're talking about, which is money.
Again, it's never what you say.
It's always what somebody says you said.
Is that some sort of debate technique or something?
Where did this come from?
Is it just social media creating that?
What I would say is I think I would consider it below me to do that to somebody.
I would never go, I'm going to tape the young turds and try to misinterpret something they
said.
As always, maybe we should.
Maybe it is fight fire with fire.
I mean, maybe that's the only way.
Well, I didn't issue an apology.
I told them to fuck right off and that they're hacks, but they're not journalists.
And neither is anybody who interprets Donald Trump, regardless of what you think of Donald Trump.
Right.
Regardless. There's a great
okay i'll finish regardless of what you think of donald trump anyone who interprets what he said
is announcing he's going to be a dictator you must turn in your journalistic license but he said it
he said it right there i can play the tape sorry're human beings. There's nuance and there's many other things that factor in.
How do you know he doesn't mean it?
He's blah, blah, blah.
There is a great clip that Emmy can find of the great John McKay, the football coach.
You know, USC.
Yeah.
Then went on to be the first coach of whom?
Hang on.
Hang on.
I remember seeing him in the sun.
So it was like, was it Colorado?
Was it Denver?
Or was it where?
The first coach.
Expansion team.
The first coach.
Expansion team.
So you can listen to him being interviewed about his offense's performance.
Buccaneers?
Yes.
Yeah.
There you go.
And he was asked about the execution of his offense.
Okay?
It's a classic tape.
Now, he was a funny guy. He was like a little Yogi Berra.
And his son was a quarterback.
Was it J.K. McHugh?
No, his son was a wide receiver.
Wide receiver.
Come on, you went to USC, Drew.
Yeah.
Wake up.
All right, we'll find it, and then I'll explain.
We'll see what Whoopi Goldberg would say about it.
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I'm also blanking on the name of the quarterback who became the director for athletics at SC.
Pat Hayden?
Pat Hayden.
Why do I know more about your alma mater than you do?
Dude, here's what you don't know.
I've studied.
No, no, no.
What you don't know is you get attached to your undergraduate school.
The graduate school, you really don't get that attached to it.
It's interesting.
Oh, I get you get attached to Amherst.
Exactly.
Okay.
How are you guys doing over there?
How are the Lord Jeffs doing?
Super woke?
Still cutting checks to them?
You can't call them the Lord Jeffs.
Oh, that's right.
The mammoths.
Because Lord Jeff was a soldier of the queen who invented germ warfare.
I was laughing.
I don't know where.
I can't remember.
Remember five years ago the University of I don't know where had to move a boulder because it was racist?
People are catching on to this now.
I've been screaming about it for a million
years like six years ago
America was like well maybe the boulder was
kind of racist maybe it should be moved
at great expense this thing that people
enjoyed you know what I'm saying
yes yeah the boulder went then the
statues went then
oh god alright
John McKay
I just I marvel everybody and I really marveled the adults. It's like I said, whenever I hear Nancy Pelosi, when I'm talking, I'm like, you think people should be tearing down monuments and statues on their own? I'm not into jewelry. They're going to do what they're going to do.
I don't like heaps of eggs. They're going to do what they're going to do?
People need to – like I said, like what people needed to do was go, look, I vote for these people.
That's a dumb answer.
You can't say that.
You're in a position of power.
People at night are – mobs are taking over these statues and tearing them. It's dangerous.
They're going to do what they're going to do is and then how would you apply that to january 6th would same answer
just people running around just doing what they're going to do or maybe might you have a slightly
different thought and then here's a bigger question you're basically just admitting that
all the people that are out tearing everything down
and burning everything and tearing the statue down are your constituency because if you if you
thought for a second those were trump voters then you would not have that answer so you're you're
basically saying the people looting and robbing and burning uh cnn and nancy pelosi you're going
yeah those are kind of our people so we're just going to look the other way.
Kyle Rittenhouse, mm-mm, not him.
All right, this is a famous tape.
I think he's in a locker room or press conference, Emmy, if you're listening.
He is asking John McKay what he thought about the execution of his offense.
Is that findable?
It was first season.
We're currently searching.
I'm currently looking at the Buccaneers Philly postgame interview right now.
Is that where it is?
I'm trying to listen to it and see if they talk about it.
You want me to just play for you?
No, I want you to...
What are you typing in, sir?
Well, it's kind of hard to find
just the interview itself. They have a lot of
best ofs for John McKay.
I'm trying to scrub through it.
It'll be in the best ofs.
You can't search
offensive...
I literally search up offensive line, execution,
everything. Well, don't do offensive line.
Just do John McKay offense execution joke.
Gotcha.
All right.
Fair enough.
But it seems like we just found a post-interview to scrub through,
the chances of it being low.
But I'm not sure.
See, I don't know how the internet works.
I do walk people through what to write
because I feel like whatever it is I say
never fully gets converted.
Yes.
Is that correct?
Well, I, for instance, didn't understand
it would have been seen as a joke.
I thought it was just him sort of being glib.
I was trying to get onto it without giving.
I tried to give as little away as possible.
So that's why I didn't want to do it.
So maybe that clouded his ability.
Is there somehow that's connected to the Philly game,
or that's just a random?
It's just a random clip.
I'm just trying to scrub through him.
But he's given 200
post-game interviews, so
the Philly thing wouldn't have been a good use of your time.
We're watching an ad
right now for the Mastro.
Oh, okay.
Did you watch Mastro?
Now, what made that findable?
Me saying the word joke?
Actually, that's exactly what I switched out.
So you said John McKay, offense.
Offense, joke, execution.
Oh, okay.
Before it just said offense, execution, whatever?
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
This will support my Whoopi Goldberg thing.
Oh, we're tying it all together here.
Yeah.
All right.
Has the maestro put his wand down? Yeah, but we're trying to find the all together here. Yeah. All right. Has the maestro put his wand down?
Yeah, but we're trying to find the right clip here.
Sorry.
Just give me one more second.
Listen, I'll watch anything John McKay says.
And by the way, if you play his best of, it'll just be in his best of reel.
And it's all funny because he's a funny coach.
I remember him smiling and laughing a lot.
It's funny.
My memory wouldn't have put him as funny.
Well, funny for a football coach.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right.
Sorry.
I can bring it back.
Sorry.
Sound, please.
I've been playing tackle this poorly in football my whole life.
27 years of coaching.
That's the worst exhibition tackle.
So that's what you think of your professional debut. What's it like in the professional ring? Is that the joke?
I don't think so.
No, the joke is offensive execution.
Yeah.
It'll be in the thing.
It's got to be.
It's got to be. But he would say stuff like, well,
we didn't block what we made up for by not tackling.
Yeah, that was kind of funny.
That's how he would speak. Now, that offensive execution joke has to just be there.
Audio is so bad. Maybe you could tell us the joke. I'll tell you the joke, except for I know it's so findable.
But nothing comes up, huh?
So that's what happened.
So you're putting in John McKay, interview.
I think I know exactly what you're talking about because I see it in text.
I just don't have a video for it.
That's what I'm trying to find.
Oh, you're trying to find a vid of it.
Oh.
But if it's correct,
I'll read to you what I have.
There's audio of it.
Oh, there's audio.
Okay.
I don't know.
I'll throw it up.
I know there is,
because here's all I know.
Everything.
Because I've seen it all.
So then I know it exists,
and I get into this with Chris all the time.
He'll go like,
it doesn't, we can't find.
And I'll go, you can. It does. It's there. this with Chris all the time. He'll go like, it doesn't, we can't find, and I'll go, you can.
It does. It's there.
There's something about the internet
that I know the least
about, but it's why I sort of know
the most about. All right. If we have it,
we'll play it. If we don't,
I'll say it. You know, I was speaking to a Detroit
fan yesterday, or not
yesterday, earlier, across the weekend.
Yeah, that's your wife.
And I was telling him about, again, this is my fascination with things that don't make
it into the present moment.
They don't make it through history to now.
And I said, have you ever heard of the Paper Lion?
Paper Lion, I've never heard of it.
George Plimpton.
Yeah, and never.
I said, you need to watch the movie.
And do you remember who played George Plimpton in the movie?
Who are you asking me?
I'm wondering if you remember.
Hmm.
Maybe Alan Alda?
Which is crazy, right?
Isn't it kind of wild that Alan Alda was in that?
Was that well before MASH, right?
It was before.
I'd say before MASH.
Yeah.
I don't know if it was well before MASH.
Okay.
It was definitely a few years before MASH. I don't know. it was well before MASH. Okay. It was definitely a few years before MASH.
68, I don't know.
Was it?
Yeah.
You looked it up?
Yeah.
Yeah, he played author George Clinton.
I thought it was wonderful.
We'd probably watch it now and not like it quite as much, but I don't know.
Wait, so I went down a rabbit hole on Alex Karras, right,
who was a famous offensive lineman or defensive lineman for the Lions.
And not that I went a rabbit hole on the internet.
I just went a rabbit hole with this guy going,
you ever heard of how Monday Night Football got going and who the players were?
How about the Mary Mac and the monitor?
I know, I know, I know.
So I literally – so riddle me this.
So it was Howard Cosell, right?
Let's talk about the original – what made Monday Night Football a famous institution was that we're the announcers on Monday night, I would say.
And in fact, it was a novelty playing a game on Monday night.
Yeah.
And they don't know who Howard Cosell was.
So we start from that.
Yeah.
Listen, a lot of this stuff is plausible know plausible deniability you know i don't know
but but it's also it's like i don't when i was 17 i i knew who louis armstrong was you know i mean i
knew who these people were we kind of made it our business and we all more so i would say i knew who
dick van dyke was and jack Gleason. It was sort of
more that kind of thing. But it was also a mindset. And I think we'll get into it the next show.
Maybe, Emmy, you'll find that clip for the next show. But before we go real quick, who was the
original cast? I was trying to put it together. And I put it as, you tell me if this is right or
wrong. Ready? Alex Harris, Don Meredith, Gifford, Frank Gifford, Howard Cosell.
Were there four of them?
Don Meredith.
I cannot tell you who the first night was, and I can't remember.
But I love Dandy Don.
Turn out the lights, the party's over.
Was he drunk when he was doing it?
He sounded it sometimes.
It didn't matter because
it was freezing and who gives a
shit and we're having fun. Were Gifford
and Meredith on at the same time?
I don't think Gifford was there at the beginning.
Okay, I don't think so either. I have it
as Howard and Dandy Don and I can't
remember the third person. And even Alex Karras came in
a little bit later, right? Well, I don't know
Drew because we'll have to look it up
and either figure it out, write it down.
I don't remember the opening
night of these people
pass through the show.
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Go to drue.com.
Everything is there.
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All right.
So until next time, I'm M. Corle for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.
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