The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1845 Thousandfold Difference
Episode Date: March 28, 2024The guys pick up where they left yesterday, as Adam shares the persecution of a Swedish Harvard professor, they discuss the risk and rewards of building, versus those living inside of a cubicle. Plus,... Adam introduces Dr. Drew to a welding prime minister, and they delve the truth, and when the world lost its way. Please Support Our Sponsors: This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp, visit BetterHelp.com/Carolla CookUnity.com/ADS or enter code: ADS
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All right, so in the last show, some of this article,
which I thought was pretty interesting,
but there's one particular part of it
that I really felt important.
Throw it up there.
So it's Martin Koldorf,
who was a decorated scientist, physician, teacher,
and he dared to go against the, you know,
everybody in the government.
Yes.
And so he was fired from Harvard, okay.
And he said some strong things. I think he actually, is he a Swedish scientist?
I think he is Swedish, but he worked for Harvard.
I think was the deal.
I don't know, you can read it, Emmy, or Drew can read it.
Epidemiologist Martin Koldorf,
professor at Harvard for 20 years,
said he was let go for attaching his name to the Great Barrington
Declaration, of course. Professor aired his grievances to the City Journal. He was terminated
for clinging to the truth as the world lost its way during the COVID pandemic. True, all true.
But the former professor has been accused of making inflammatory comments during the pandemic at one point comparing children wearing masks to the Taliban's
brutal treatment of women, along with claiming unvaccinated Americans would lead to herd
immunity in six months. All true.
This is not the article. You got to talk to Chris. Did Chris send you this one?
It's the link we got. Or that's the link I got.
I think he sent you the wrong one. Or maybe. Let's see. Keep reading.
Barrington, the hospital faculty, such career are employed by the hospitals, not Harvard Medical School.
When a faculty, where are we, when faculty members' hospital employment ends, the academic appointment also ends.
So that's kind of interesting to me because that means it was the hospital that made the decision, which is really fucked up.
Koldorf began his career as a professor in 2003.
On leave last year, teamed up with Gupta, Oxford University and Stanford J.
This may not be the right one. We'll keep
screaming down. So he teamed up with J. Bhattacharya to write the Great Baratheon Demigration.
Does this talk about Sweden though?
The article I'm talking about talks more about Sweden.
Okay, let me keep going.
Remember, keep going, keep going.
Oh, there we are.
Koldorf claimed he attempted to convince Harvard
to stay open using the blueprint from Sweden, is that?
Yeah, that makes sense.
Sweden was among the few countries
not in forestry mandates.
The nation put the decision in the hands of
its citizens.
Shocking.
Uh, Oxford university data, uh, world data
showed that Scandinavian countries suffered
almost 1500 confirmed deaths per million.
Uh, the U S had 32,000 deaths per million
around the same time.
Sweden's COVID deaths were below average.
Uh, on July 20th, 2020.
Harvard educated in the Journal of Medicine,
published an article by two Harvard professors
on whether primary schools should be open
without mentioning Sweden.
Should I keep going?
Yeah, because you get into the Swedish prime minister
or whatever he is.
But here's the interesting thing about the guy
who ran Sweden.
He, his former profession, welder.
How many fucking times do I tell you people
you can't make decisions if you're Barbara Ferrer
because you sit in a cubicle.
Yep.
When you weld all building, all everything
that has to do with that is, okay, just please,
I know everyone thinks I'm nuts, but here's what I'm saying.
Everything that involves building
is a balance and a trade-off. Risk reward.
You go, yeah, you go, I got to cut that steel.
And they go, well, how would you like to do it?
And you go, would you like to use the wheel?
Would you like to use the bandsaw?
Would you like to do it?
And then someone goes, you know, the safest way is just to do it by hand.
And you go, yeah, I know, but that would take forever.
But then you go, but the band saw, you know,
that can throw some sparks.
It'd be intense.
You go, okay, I'll do the band saw,
but I'll put goggles on.
You know what I mean?
And then they go, yeah, also the band saw,
sometimes it'll burn it a little, make a little,
okay, well then I'm gonna open the roll-up door and put the fan on, sometimes it'll burn it a little, make a little, okay, well then I'm gonna open
the roll-up door and put the fan on,
and I'll blow it out and I'll put the goggles on,
and then we'll cut it with the band saw.
But everything is just sort of this.
It's the way medicine is, everything's risk-worthy.
And if you haven't done that,
it's an experiential form of learning.
You can't read about it.
It's like reading about riding a bike.
You have to do it a lot to get good at it.
Right. So these things occur to you, so you have feelings,
like, I'm not sure this is quite the right... Then you start thinking about it and you come
to the right thing.
Yes, and every... Everything is a sort of like, I gotta go up and get onto the scaffolding.
Okay. What do I need at the top of the scaffolding? Well, I need my hypoid saw and I need my sawzall
and I need my cordless drill.
And then you go, okay, I don't wanna go up and down
the scaffolding three times,
but I don't think I can carry all three of those tools
safely up because they're way too much
and I could fall off or I could drop them on someone's head. So I'm going to take two. I'll take the two
light ones. I'll take the cordless drill and the sawzall and then I'll come down
and get the high point saw. And these are all these decisions. You just make them a
thousand times a day. There is no such thing as, I'm not going up the
scaffolding. You have to going up the scaffolding. You
have to go up the scaffolding. We have shit to do.
Sweden was the only Western country who rejected school closures and other lockdowns in favor
of concentration on the elderly. Final verdict is now in, I can't read it because you made
it blue, led by an intelligent social democrat prime minister,
parentheses a welder, Sweden had the lowest case mortality.
Is this from another article?
Yeah, that was the wrong article, the first one.
Oh, did he send you the wrong one?
Yeah, I was just confirming with him,
are you positive it's this one?
Oh yeah, the first one didn't sound right,
but the second one, that's the one,
that's the one I'd like to get into.
Sorry, wasted your time on that.
It was interesting though.
On the first one, yeah.
Well look, is this the top of it?
Who wrote that?
Wait, wait, who wrote that?
Oh, it's Coldore's letter.
Go up a little bit further.
Yeah, Martin Coldore of Harvard Tramples the Truth.
Yes, it's the same guy, it's the wrong article, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And this one, when did the
first article come out, by the way, just so I can get possibly angry? Wait, this one's new, this is
March 24, which is interesting. He was just fired. Yeah, that's what I was... March 13th.
Oh, the other one was newer. Oh, well then I stand corrected. All right, so now read that, Drew.
I'm no longer a professor at Harvard
whose motto was very tossed, Latin for the truth,
but as I discovered truth can get you fired.
This is my story, a story of a Harvard biostatician
and infectious disease epidemiologist clinging to the truth
as the world lost its way during the COVID pandemic.
Actually, I like that.
Harvard declared it would suspend in-person classes and shift to online learning.
Boy, that's on March 10th.
On March 10th, 2020.
Harvard was the first school to close.
Oh, is that right?
The first. Isn't that crazy?
It is crazy.
It's perfect though, right?
It is perfect.
It's perfect.
Blah. God, this is so gross. I can't stand it. It's really hard for me to think about.
Across country universities, schools, and state governments followed Harvard's lead.
It's clear from early 2020 the virus would eventually spread across the globe and then
it would be futile to try to suppress it with lockdowns.
It was also clear that the lockdowns would inflict enormous collateral damage, not only
in education, but also in public health, including treatment for cancer, cardiovascular disease,
and mental health.
We'll be dealing with the harm done for decades.
Our children, the elderly, the middle class, the working class, the poor around the globe will suffer.
Schools closed in many other countries too, but under heavy international criticism,
Sweden kept its schools and daycares open. While anyone can get infected, we have known for early,
since early 2020, that more than a thousand fold difference in COVID
mortality in risk holds between the young and the old.
Oh, there you go, Drew. Thousand fold difference.
How did you ever know that, Adam? How did you ever detect that?
I detect everything every day.
Thousand fold. Thousand fold. If it had been ten fold, it would have been a lot.
They have known this since early 2020. Early 2020.
But what's crazy is they still know it.
They knew it.
They knew it.
But they still know it and they still want the vaccines.
They fucking knew it is what I kept saying to everybody.
Fucking liars.
Yeah.
All right.
Keep reading.
Children face minuscule risk from COVID and interrupting their education would disadvantage
them for life, especially those whose families could not afford private schools, pod schools, tutors, home school, etc.
While the results during the spring of 20, what were the results during the spring of 2020
with schools open Sweden had zero COVID deaths in the one to 15 age group while teachers had the
same mortality as the average of other professions. Based on those facts, summarized in July 7, 2020 report
by the Swedish public health agency,
all US schools should have been quickly reopened
that July of 2020.
Not doing so, you could have even waited until the vaccine
if you wanted to, a couple months, but then open.
Instead they stayed closed in states like California
for what, another year and a half?
I guess.
Oh my God.
Sweden was the only major Western country
that rejected schools closures in lockdowns
in favor of concentrating on the elderly.
Send me that article guys.
Email me that article.
And the final verdict is now in.
I wanna tweet that article out.
Yes, yes, now that's the point
led
by an
Sorry intelligent social Democrat prime minister a welder
Sweden had lower
Access mortality among major European countries and blah blah blah, but this guy got blackballed for this
Do people not know what was going on?
No.
They still don't.
They still don't.
Okay.
They still don't.
This is the thing.
Well, we didn't know.
We didn't know.
They tried.
They did their best.
We didn't know.
We didn't know for a long time.
We just recently figured it out.
Every motherfucker I speak to goes, they didn't know back then.
Now they know, but they didn't know.
They didn't know. They didn't know.
You didn't know how this affected
the elderly versus the young.
You didn't know that week one.
But you didn't know that week one.
Here's what you should say now, though.
You couldn't tell a thousand-fold difference?
You were unable to see a thousand-fold difference?
Yes.
Unable.
Well, listen, my answer is, if you didn't know, then shut the fuck up.
If you don't know something.
Right.
Certainly don't destroy other people.
All right.
All right, here we go.
Is there something that you don't get?
Yeah.
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All right, by the way, real quick,
my son just went in for his six month checkup.
One of the questions at the end was,
would you like to do the flu shot or the COVID shot?
Wow, still being that confident. I held back the fuck no. Wow. Well, it's weird they didn't
just try to push it on you, because most pediatricians really push. Yeah, she's not pushing. At least they
asked you. Luckily. At least they asked you. Six months COVID shot. Jesus fucking Christ. Yeah.
Oh, so many six-month-year-old kids are dying of COVID. Nobody. Read about it every day. Listen,
that's a dine of COVID. Nobody.
Read about it every day.
Listen, it was always about age.
It was always 100%, 100% about age.
It was always about the kids.
It was always about scaring mom,
using the kids as a tool to scare mom,
and then the schools.
And it was, you know what it was?
There is a, the time we're living in,
and the reason this is a very dangerous time,
as I've been saying, is a proclamation is made.
And the proclamation is,
white supremacy is the biggest,
Biggest threat.
Biggest threat this country faces.
And then you go, huh?
Cause then your sort of instincts kick in.
And you go I
Don't hear that much. I just I don't know it. I don't see it I don't feel I don't see marches and rallies and stuff
I don't and then what you do is you then reverse engineer you go. All right, what are we gonna do?
Well, we're gonna turn every religious guy who protests 30 feet away from a
every religious guy who protests 30 feet away from an abortion clinic, we're gonna raid his farm, and then we'll film it, and then we'll see him getting dragged out, right? And then there's your
white supremacy, you know? And so, and we'll do, will anyone who wandered onto the grounds on
January 6th, we'll just call them a proud boy and lock them up, and then we'll brag, oh, there is no
white supremacy. How did all these, why are all these people in jail?
But you've heard Mike Ben's theory,
which is that they make that case
so they can direct all the intelligence operations
domestically that should be going international.
Right, there's all that.
Okay, but what I'm saying, here's the dangerous part.
You go, we gotta scare everyone about COVID.
Well, it doesn't really affect kids. Yeah, okay. But people won't be scared if it's not kids. All right, well, what do
we do? We'll shut the schools. Then you go, but it doesn't affect it. Yeah, but that'll
make people think it's kids. So we have to do this. And then we'll have Rochelle Walensky
speak as a mother and talk about a fear for son camping
And and shit like that and we'll get the moms
We'll get the dumb moms and we'll fucking whip them up will agitate them will weaponize them. So
We are going to create this crime
You know what? I mean, we're gonna create this narrative
We we need to scare the fuck out everyone about kovat know what to be? We're gonna create this narrative. We need to scare the fuck out of everyone about COVID.
No one will be scared if it's just grandpa.
So we'll shut the schools,
then we'll have the teachers unions getting ball,
and then we'll give all these speeches
about fear and danger.
And then if anybody like me suggests
we should open the schools,
then we'll attack him on classism or racism or or whatever and then this would be sitting in his mansion
This would be this whole big concerted effort about this and kids were never in danger
And I fucking knew it and I kept saying it now. I didn't study anything
I just looked around and know what no kids were sick. Yeah, how you know. Better than any test.
Hey, speaking of people getting dragged off,
I wonder if you had any thoughts on this P. Diddy thing.
I had sort of a strong reaction to it.
Find me on the doctor, Zemi.
I just need that one more time.
Yes, P. Diddy, I don't.
I had sort of a peculiar reaction.
First, I was pissed.
I was like, hey, I don't know if this guy's guilty or not.
Shut the fuck up. Let them do their investigation. They painted him as guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty.
It's like, I don't know. And it's the government again doing their thing. So I don't trust that.
He's American. Let him go to the court before we condemn him. So I had a weird reaction. He might
be guilty. I don't know. I don't know what the hell the guy does. But the fact that they just cartoon, brightwash, that has to stop.
That's the media getting out of control.
The problem is they did it 10 minutes ago with Russell Brand
and then they do it so much that you're always
a little dubious.
Anytime I see federal marshals raid someplace now. I'm always like
They've raised they had I was at Mar-a-Lago last week of that to raid Mar-a-Lago. You know what I mean?
Like same thing. It's all the stuff
Don't do it to Lori Loughlin
Because you had a fucking SWAT team show up at Lori Loughlin's house and drag her in.
Stop it.
Because then when you do it, you did it to Roger Stone at six in the morning, you did
Lori Loughlin.
It's like, you could tell these people to show up with their attorney at noon.
They'd go right downtown and sit down.
All right.
So when you do it with everyone, it loses its meaning to me.
So I no longer know...
What also makes you very suspicious of the government turning what it looks like military
style interventions towards domestic issues.
Let the cops show up and knock on the door, the marshals, not the fucking homeland security.
There are always long guns and everything.
And I always say, like, they did Roger.
Those guys should be embarrassed.
Oh, I would never do it.
I'd say I rolled my ankle.
They did Roger Stone it.
They do it at six in the morning.
The dog's barking, the guy, probably a gun owner,
comes down with a pistol or whatever, shots fired.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it could be.
Maybe they're hoping for that.
It's so, huh. All. Maybe they're hoping for that. I don't... It's so...
Huh.
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All right, quick briefer on me and the doctors.
You know, I agree about social media.
It's doing a lot for a lot of people and you also by
the way you post controversial tweets which and you're a comedian and you talk about it this is
one that stuck out and since with the doctors I want to point out you said quote turns out the
people dying from COVID are old or sick or both how many of you bleeps got played and who's going
to get played next time?
What exactly were you trying to say there?
What are you trying to say?
Exactly what I said.
That's exactly what I mean.
So only- It's all there.
Only old and sick people are dying from COVID?
Yes. Overwhelmingly.
I mean, I don't want to play the outlier game with everyone.
Everyone plays the outlier game now.
It's like the death of math.
Like what about the 14 year old from New Brunswick?
Fine, I give you that.
It's old people and people with pre-existing conditions.
But aren't they valuable?
I mean, geez, my goodness.
To me, regardless of your age or pre-existing condition,
you have a life, you got one life.
I want you to live, I don't want you dying.
Everybody else's life to save that one life?
I'm with you.
But don't sell it to us like healthy people
need to be locked down.
They kept the information.
They didn't give us information about old people
and preexisting conditions.
We didn't get that early on.
It was just lock it down.
It's killing this many people,
but they wouldn't give us ages.
Of course there's a huge difference
between an old person dying and a young person dying.
Sure.
I never said this thing didn't kill people,
I didn't say it wasn't dangerous
or insidious or anything like that.
What I'm saying is give us perspective on it.
And yes, you should act differently
depending on your situation.
I'm in a low risk zone myself
and my home is filled with low risk people.
So I act differently than my friend does
with his 90 year old mother.
Sure, yeah.
No, I agree with you in the fact that
the media has not done a great job
in really presenting COVID in its full.
I'll be honest with you.
And I do believe that there's some of that.
It's about kind of eyeballs, it's about ratings,
we do not disagree about that whatsoever.
Well, anyone who gets it should avail themselves
of whatever the best they can get.
I mean, obviously, I don't want any lists or death panels.
If you got it, get to the nearest hospital
or take the medications,
number one.
Number two, the thing about who we're putting in danger
and who we're not putting in danger,
I mean, there's been a lot of studies on masks,
there's been a lot of studies on crowds,
there's been a lot of studies on outdoors versus indoors.
For me, I live in California.
Three months ago, they were telling us
we could walk on the beach, but we couldn't lay down on the beach. They closed all the parks. is indoors. For me, I live in California. Three months ago, they were telling us we
could walk on the beach, but we couldn't lay down on the beach. They closed all the parks.
Think about all those kids who live in those sort of congested areas, who live in these
crappy apartments with all the sort of sprawling asphalt and concrete. The only thing they
have is a basketball hoop and a merry-go-round in a park. Why did we close the parks? Why do we have to shut down the parks?
Kids played the parks, it's outdoors,
it's proven to be, if not safe, not dangerous.
Why did we close the beaches?
That's what I'm pushing back against,
the crazy overreach.
Yeah, but can I just say something?
Doctors and scientists do not know
the full extent of this virus.
It's called a novel coronavirus, a new coronavirus.
Doctors are learning on the fly and doctors have been honest and said,
we don't have all the answers.
We're going with the best science that we have.
No, they weren't.
With what we know at the current time.
It may change next week, but the public has to allow us as professionals
to be able to read the data
Accept new data and be able to make changes without people saying oh you guys know nothing you said this last week now
You're saying this this week. This is how it works. This is science
Now I agree, but not lying down on the beach is not science
Well, everyone knew the answer that yeah parked as well Gavin Newsom just had a big party out here with a bunch of different families
Okay, so shall we listen to Gavin Newsom because he's just following the science except for not for him
There it is. Yeah
Yeah
That they do the we didn't know it's very fluid. You didn't know
That just the mortality part between the elderly near the lockdown too, is probably a year into the lockdown too, by the way.
I don't know, and we'll probably find out
when that was from, but that's how everyone spoke.
You know what I mean?
And then you had to go on and defend your position
of wanting to reopen schools and beaches.
Hysteria, just fucking hysteria.
Yeah, but it's everyone's fault but mine.
Because if everyone had just spoke like I spoke,
then nothing would have happened.
They couldn't have closed the schools or the beaches
if everyone just went to the fucking beach.
If everyone went to the beach,
they would have continued to use the force of law.
This is the thing.
They would have arrested lots of people.
If closing schools was that unpopular,
they go, look, they don't give a fuck about black people,
but when Black Lives Matter gets popular,
then they're all taking a knee in the rotunda,
with the koofies on and the prayer shawls.
You know what I mean?
Like, oh, okay, that's what we're doing now.
Nancy Pelosi's 105 years old,
doesn't give a fuck about black people her entire career,
but now I've heard Chuck Schumer gotta take a knee
because this is the thing.
So if something is expedient,
if something is popular or unpopular, whatever it is,
they'll just go right there, right now.
You know, we love Michael Avenatti.
Oh, what, he's a grifter?
Oh, he's in jail?
Yeah, we're off him.
Remember that?
Yeah, yeah.
The next presidential candidate. Listen that? Yeah, yeah.
The next presidential candidate.
Listen, I wrote, this is from December 2020.
Okay. December 2020.
I wrote down, I had the, I don't know where I was.
It's a year into it, right?
Yeah.
Jesus.
I wrote down the view and I wrote down the view, well the view or anybody else is sort
of Mount Rushmore.
Here's who they love.
They love Avenatti.
Yeah.
They love George Floyd.
Oh yeah.
They love Stormy Daniels.
This is who, this is the best they have.
We need a fourth.
We need one more.
I wrote it down here when I was, okay.
Oh, okay. Um, this is, this is, this is the best they have.
Uh, I wrote it, I wrote it down here when I was, okay. Oh, okay.
And Dylan Mulvaney that that's their Mount Rushmore.
These are the people who they'd like to lead them. You understand?
Career criminals, prostitutes, no, no,
there's career criminal prostitutes and prostitutes. Not Dylan, to be fair. No, no. There's career criminals. And prostitutes, yes, yes, keep going.
And prostitutes and confused guys, guys who are very confused sexually.
That's, that is their, those are their heroes.
Yeah.
George Floyd and Avenatti were heroes to them.
Heroes.
Yeah.
And Stormy Daniels is a hero.
That's their heroes.
Did you ever meet Stormy? No. I met her several times.
I don't have any problem with her, but I don't really have any problem with any of these people,
but let's not hold them up as, you know, beacons of virtue. I mean, you know, there's
there's MacArthur, there's Eisenhower, there's Dylan Mulvaney. And what are you gonna do? That's how it works, man.
Right.
That's what I think about that.
Well, Churchill, Margaret Thatcher.
Oh yeah, no.
Stormy Daniels.
No, they don't like Thatcher, by the way.
I know they don't.
But they like strong women.
Yeah, but not Margaret Thatcher.
But not strong women who disagree with them strongly.
Right.
Right?
But they love strong women.
Not if they disagree.
But not if they disagree.
And they like black people.
But not if they disagree.
Not if it's Thomas Owen.
They love black women, but they hate Candice Owen.
So always put that caveat, which is you don't truly love strong black women.
You like black women who agree with you.
Right.
That's what you like.
All right, you can go to amcroll.com.
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What do you got, Drew?
Speaking of Adam traveling, I just realized
I've not spoken about a project I've been involved with
for a while called The Wellness Company, TWC.com,
and we have these travel kits for antibiotics and things
that you can get way less expensive,
more easily than calling your doctor, going to
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have on hand, stuff I give my patients when they travel. We have an emergency kit. Check out twc.com.
I'm a patient, chief patient officer there. So, until next time, I'm Dr for Dr. Drew. Say it! Mahalo.
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