The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1847 You’re Steerage at this Point
Episode Date: April 3, 2024Adam and Drew kick off the week by sharing their thoughts on Abigail Shrier, the drift in bureaucracy , and are you losing dominion of yourself? Plus, Gavin Newsom's open letter to the muslim communit...y, and what lies in the future of Ozempic users. Please Support Our Sponsor: Take charge at Biotiquest.com, with code DREW15
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but what's going on?
Thoughts.
Me?
No.
You.
Yeah.
Let's hear.
Come on.
Let's go.
Think people want your thoughts?
No, I don't.
You know, what's starting to go on,
I was listening to Abigail Schreier,
who's a nice woman I've met a couple of times.
Actually, me too.
Wrote the whole kind of transgender thing and everyone got very upset at her.
Let's examine, let me just frame that.
She wrote a book.
She had no opinion about the transgender situation.
She just wanted to investigate it.
And what she uncovered was concerning, wrote her concerns.
That's hate.
Right.
She's hateful. Right, and then she had her books pulled from Walmart
and de-listed from Amazon or whatever it was.
And it's kind of a poster child
for the times we're living in.
She, Jay Bhattacharya, these are our poster children guys.
There's a bunch of them.
Right, right.
So the way the system works or the way it goes is somebody floats an idea.
And the idea they float is white cops are killing black men at disproportionate rates,
you know, unarmed black men, and or then COVID, masks and school closures and vaccines and
six-foot distancing and sheltering at home.
Okay, this is what works.
Then they go transgender.
If you do not let your daughter become your son, then there's going to be mass suicides
because the suicide rate
amongst that community is ten times what the normal community of 16 year olds are. And
then there's a whole environmental version of that about climate and the seas are rising
and you know blah blah blah blah blah. Okay? Don't get caught up in what just got handed to you, Drew. Okay, so the game is somebody floats an idea
and the idea is, you know, cops are killing black people,
environment, you know, whatever, COVID, whatever COVID,
anything, Ivermectin, COVID, Ivermectin, blah, blah, blah.
And then people live with the idea for a little bit. And then most people,
meaning Americans, the idea sort of becomes a little bit of a movement. You know, there's
Black Lives Matter marches, and they're writing it down the main thoroughfare of DC and Times Square,
and you know, COVID becomes a movement Square and COVID becomes a movement and transgender
becomes a movement, environment becomes a movement, it all becomes a movement, you know?
And it should be a little suspicious when stuff like science just kind of becomes a movement,
you know? Like you go, well, wear a mask. Yeah, okay. And then what about band practice?
Well, you poke a hole in it and then they'll play it.
They'll play the oboe through the hole in the mask, you know?
Half the people that lectured me on wearing the mask
on an airplane or an airport or a public space
had the strap twisted enough,
so created a figure eight around their ear,
which created a seven eighth8 air gap so I could
actually see.
By the way, they're wearing a surgical mask, which has no utility.
Right, right.
I see their upper lip.
So now you start to kind of wonder, hmm, is this a thing or is it just a movement, you
know what I mean, that we're going along with once again?
You know, killer bees coming in from Mexico, you know, these
kind of things. So then-
You're at that point asking, is this a movement or some people should be asking that?
Well, no, it sort of, it takes on a religious quality and it has a movement, sort of go
along with it, you know?
It's religious, yes.
Put a black square on your Twitter page to stand in solidarity with the black men who
are being slaughtered by white policemen.
So there are sinners, there are relievers, there are monks and priests and things within
the canon.
Right.
There's publications that are good and publications that are evil, devil.
There we go.
Sounds familiar, huh?
1650, New England.
Right.
So this goes along and then a small group of people, you know, they're going to be Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. So then... South familiar, huh? 1650. Right. Right. So then...
New England. Right. So this...
1550. This goes along and then a small percentage of people who have sort of intellectually honest
and quite frankly maybe not in fear for their job or being ostracized for their community or
whatever it is, sometimes religious people, they go, wait a minute,
this seems fishy.
In all this, you know, go outdoors and eat outdoors, but then it gets cold outdoors,
so they put a tent over the outdoors, and now the outdoors has become the indoors, ostensibly,
because you've tented the whole thing off, but somehow that's's safe or you can walk to your table with your mask on and
When you get to your table, you can take your mask off to have a beer
But you got to put the mask back on to get up and use the bathroom at a certain point
there's a group of
Sort of free thinkers that are also just kind of intellectually curious, you know kind of like well
Why would this happen if that happened? Or what, you know, who is – if, you know, most policemen in New York
City, if they have a majority minority of policemen and the chief and the mayor and
the DA and everyone's black, and then there are really a lot of rogue black cops executing
black people, you know what I mean?
Or anything COVID, anything COVID, like horse tranquil, horse paste, you know? And so then
that small subset starts asking questions. And then when that small subset starts asking questions,
then the powers turn.
No, hold on, because this is the part that really I found most disturbing, because I
remember living through it. That small subset has to get stopped, crushed, defogged.
Well, don't you say hold on, I said then the powers turn.
Oh, on them. Okay, got it, got it, got it. I'm sorry, I misinterpreted what you were
saying.
Just shut up, Drew. What do you think? Oh, everyone realizes?
No, I thought you were saying that the shift happens.
No, the powers turn on them.
Oh yeah.
Don't cut me off.
Sorry.
Discuss this 7,000 times.
You think I think that's my interpretation
of what happens, you idiot?
Listen to me.
Then they turn, okay.
And then they mobilize.
And then it's not just the White House or the governor or the mayor, it's CNN and MSNBC
and Twitter and Big Tech, then they all go in on that person.
And that's really meant, that's a shot across the bow.
It's like, okay, you want your career to end?
Anybody else got an idea? Does anybody else in this group have an idea
that would be a contrast to our narrative?
Because if you do, here's a clear example
of you getting fired from your tenured position
at Harvard or Stanford or whatever.
Here's you being ostracized.
Here's you going-
Here you go, Barton Coldorf.
Here you go.
Here you head out to the center of town.
We're gonna stone this guy. You stand in the crowd, and then you decide if Martin Kaldorf. Here you go. Here you head out to the center of town. We're gonna stone this guy.
You stand in the crowd,
and then you decide if you wanna pipe up.
No, it's why guillotines.
It was why they used guillotines.
They didn't do it privately.
They put them on a scaffold.
They put them in the middle of town and invited everyone.
I've heard French historians say the problem
with the terror was not the guillotine,
it was the scaffold.
So they were doing it in public as a fucking scene.
Eight feet off the ground so everyone saw.
Yeah. Right.
Okay.
They built a stage, essentially.
Okay.
So then a handful of those people pipe up
and then a handful of those people get attacked
and then somehow, or not somehow,
but Walmart gets involved and the CDC gets involved
and the WHO gets involved and the CDC gets involved
and the WHO gets involved and the Biden administration gets involved
and they're all, the LA Times gets involved
and they all get involved
and then they all come after the person
and then they send the message
and then it hopefully stifles or shuts up
anyone else who's thinking about getting out of their lane.
Okay, so Abigail Schreier started asking questions
about the trans, trans and kids,
and then of course she was attacked.
Now then what that creates is the French resistance.
Now then an alternate group says,
hey, wait a minute, these people make sense.
There's a handful of intellectually honest
that's somewhat brave.
People goes, fuck this, we gotta fight against this.
We're gonna stand up and we're gonna figure it out
and we'll start our breakaway into our own platforms
and whatever.
Okay, that's the process.
That's the process we're in now?
Well, it's the process that we're coasting to a stop with.
Now, the people who use the process
are the last to know that the process doesn't work.
I'm not quite getting it, help me.
The people who are the underground?
Or the people who are using the
process? The people who use the process are the last people to realize it doesn't work.
So you understand how I hear you. When you say process, I assumed you meant the underground
process. No, you shouldn't be confused on any of that.
So I asked for clarification.
No, there is no process with the underground.
There is no process.
What do you call that?
They've broken away and they're doing their own rogue thing, but they're not the system.
Okay.
The people, I should have said the word system.
Then I would have got it.
Then I would have got it.
Please, you wouldn't have.
People use the system, don't realize the system doesn't work with people.
So they just keep going back to calling people racist or homophobic or whatever that thing
is.
Is that the stage we're in sort of now?
Yeah, they've lost their audience.
And if you remember, I'm always like, how much longer, how much longer, what the fuck,
how much longer is this going on?
We're there, we're there essentially.
People don't listen to them or believe them anymore.
I interviewed a woman yesterday on my streaming show who lived through the Cultural Revolution
in China. And she was like, this is the exact, she goes, Eastern Europeans see it,
Russians see it, Chinese see it, we've been there. This is the exact same playbook that goes on.
And I was asking her lots of questions, like, well, it's the same playbook. Is somebody using
a playbook? Is it sort of a natural thing that occurs? And she sort asking her lots of questions like, well it's the same playbook, is somebody using a playbook?
Is it sort of a natural thing that occurs?
And she sort of had a kind of a,
that it's a natural thing that occurs
that people take advantage of.
Yes.
And this sort of this drift towards totalitarianism
that bureaucracies have.
They just naturally drift that way.
Well they grow.
They grow, they want control, they want power,
and they just move that way and they have to be contained. They're the enemy, it's not a part, it's. They grow. They want control. They want power. And they just move that way.
And they have to be contained.
They're the enemy.
It's not a part.
It's a hydra.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you know, we have all these anti-monopoly laws for companies, but we don't have any
for the government.
That's right.
The government, everyone drifts.
Well, we thought we did. for companies, but we don't have any for the government. That's right. The government, everyone drifts.
But we thought we did. We called it the Bill of Rights and things, the Constitution. But they're trying to undermine that.
Right. So then someone like Abigail writes a book about therapy and about how
about therapy and about how it has not served our children well. And the reason it hasn't served our children well is the same thing I've been talking about
for a million years, which is I feel anxiety.
Oh, my God, you have anxiety.
Oh, it must be so horrible.
Here's some medication, and please tell me about your anxiety, and, it must be so horrible. Here's some medication and please tell me about your
anxiety and let's just keep talking about your anxiety until it sort of manifests itself, you
know, and then it just is, you know. Not only that, that anxiety and depression might have
motivated some change that could have been very productive and useful.
Yes, versus get outside, break a sweat, get busy, shake it off. By the way, I was... My anxiety and depression, sorry for this morning's stuff, was severely mismanaged,
and it forced me to get my shit together.
And so I'm sort of...
It was awful, but I'm sort of grateful for it in retrospect.
So what it becomes is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
You say you're on the spectrum, you have a disorder,
you need medication, and now it just is.
And by the way, just like any other primate,
you give them a positive reward.
They're gonna go that direction.
It's like that's, they feel better with a pill?
Well, that's, the pill's my solution.
Pills, in there is embedded
a really important philosophical point.
Pharmacology does not make life better. No. Never. It should never be considered such. It's only,
my dad used to hammer this into my head, he was a family practitioner. It's something that's
dangerous and you used only when the risk is worth it, because not treating it is dire.
Now everybody's on Ozembic.
Wait till you see the scale of problems with that.
I promise you.
Can I tell you something?
It's not just the scale of problems from a physiological standpoint.
You have lost the ability to govern yourself.
You know, I've told people all the time, well, just get on him, just show her what it's like,
then control your eating, focus, discipline, control yourself and go exercise.
You can control it, just go control it.
But now you don't have to control it because there's a pill.
And what everyone talks about is the weight.
It's not about the weight, it's about the control.
It's about you losing dominion over yourself.
It's not the weight part, it's the you have lost,
you're no longer in the wheelhouse of your own vessel.
You're steerage at this
point.
Is it? Is it?
And so when I tell people, they go, well, what's wrong if Connie just gets on it to
lose some weight? It's not, yes, it's good that she loses weight. It's bad that she thinks
she needs an injection to do something.
I agree. And I also feel like there's a middle ground.
Like you can get people going on that.
Getting down is hard, I get it.
But staying there, do that on your own.
Let's see if we can do that.
Let's get off this as soon as possible.
This shit's dangerous.
You can get there.
I mean, obviously all things are possible.
Yeah.
All right.
As you say, if it's worth it to you,
if you offered them $100,000 magically they would get it done
Have you told anybody I'll give you a hundred grand if you can get down 20 pounds in two months, right?
anybody
who
Who couldn't get down 20 pounds in two months, right for a hundred thousand dollars anybody anybody there
Oh, then yeah, we can't do it. And then we've established it's doable.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
Okay.
But you choose not to do it.
Okay.
But there's kind of in there sort of a subtle interesting question, which is how do you
motivate people?
You know what I mean?
How do you go?
Because you're pointing at the fact that with proper motivation, fine.
How do we get that motivation? Well, obviously when we tell them they have a problem, now there's an issue with motivation.
All right.
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All right, so the notion, and I've been railing about this like, oh, the people in the community
and these at-risk community and I'm always like, stop it, just stop creating this
because all it is is,
the reason the problem's getting worse with everybody
all the time, whether it's the kid on the spectrum
or though I have anxiety or I'm being oppressed
or I'm in this group or as an African American woman,
I know how difficult it can be to navigate this country.
It's because you're,
it's becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.
You're creating these groups.
And I brought you something,
or I printed out something for you.
Okay.
It's a little long,
but I was reading Gavin Newsom's open letter
to the Muslim community
and communities of whatever, which is again, it's 2024.
And by the way, now it's like 2024.
We're not in Arkansas, we're in California.
You know what I'm saying?
And he has to talk about all the discrimination and all the hate and all the fear.
And then they do this thing where they go, we stand strongly with you.
And then they do this other weird nonsense thing too, where they go like, we recognize
the contributions of the trans community to our country in science, in arts, in literature.
It's like, we do? How many great trans astronauts have there
been? And it keeps... It's because they've been oppressed. How dare you?
Read the top. Read the... You gotta read the title, Drew, otherwise we're not...
The title is, Governor Newsom's Open Letter to Californians,
Californias, Muslim, Palestinian American, and Arab American communities.
They never put the Jews in there.
No.
California is a better place because of you, our Muslim, Palestinian American, and Arab
American neighbors.
We always get off with that.
We're neighbors and friends.
We're better because of you.
Yeah.
Okay.
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business, medicine, science.
Entertainment.
That's Palestinian entertainment.
Who's the Palestinian Al Jolson? Entertainment. Palestinians
in the entertainment world. Woo, yeah.
And now, as many of you observed.
There'd be no movies at the theaters if there weren't for the Palestinians.
In Ramadan, we can extend our heartful wishes and be reminded of the value of introspection
and renewal. Oh, that's Ramadan.
Right. All right. But, that's Ramana.
Right.
All right.
But I want you to read...
I want you to check this out.
Now, just read down.
Come on.
We got time.
Okay.
It's all words, Al.
This is why it pains me.
He didn't write this, by the way.
No, listen.
The whole team of...
Nobody wrote any...
Just listen to me, J.O.
Jimmy Kimmel didn't write his Oscar monologue. He improved it.
Right.
He vetted it, he looked at it, he picked it, he punched it up. I'm not equating to him not
doing anything, but I mean, these are... He has signed off on what he's saying.
Correct.
Okay.
I agree. That's why it pains me so deeply to see the ways your community are suffering,
bearing the weight of lost family and friends in Gaza.
Suffering, suffering.
In Gaza while facing a rise in discrimination and hate here at home.
Is that what's happening on college campuses?
In California. Yeah, if you go to UC Berkeley, you'll see that the Palestinians are running for
their lives while the Jews are just strutting through the campus.
As I've met the leaders from your communities in recent months, I've heard stories of unimaginable
loss and widespread fear.
Widespread fear.
If you're fearful, why are you lying in the middle of Wilshire Boulevard and shutting
down the street?
Why are you having violent protests on every college campus?
You're fearful? Wouldn't you lay low?
My heart are you waving Palestinian flags and trying to shut down freeways?
My heart broke they found one my heart broke when a six-year-old child was stabbed to death in Chicago as his mother
He and his mother viciously attacked because they were Palestinian and Muslim. I need to know more about first off. No number one
I'm sure dubious. Sorry. First off, no, number one, I'm sure, dubious.
Sorry, News, don't believe you.
Number two, are you the governor of Illinois?
You had to go outside your own state?
California's pretty big.
Nothing here?
Gotta go to Illinois.
Well, these are not isolated incidents.
No, they are not, Drew.
That's the whole thing.
It's all the time everywhere.
Hateful acts targeting those who are...
Hold on. They're not isolated incidents, right? Why'd you have to go to Illinois? Why'd you
have to go eight states over to find it? If it's not isolated, then surely it's happening
here because we have the biggest populace, right?
Absolutely.
Well, then why would you need to go cherry pick
if it's not isolated? Hateful acts are targeting those who are perceived to be Muslim or Arab
American are becoming more common. In California, reported anti-Muslim bias events, whatever that is,
events, rose 44% from 21 to 22. Reports also indicate a spike in anti-Muslim and anti-Arab incidents
following the October 7 terrorist, let's see what they call it, terrorist attack on Israel.
Okay. Largest documented surge of its kind since late 2015-16.
Yeah, well listen, when a group viciously slaughters another group for being Jewish,
there could be a little pushback, but I would argue it pales in comparison to all the Palestinian
rallies, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
That I've seen.
All right.
Do you see that thing at Vanderbilt, my son's alma mater, where the woman couldn't get up
to go get her tampon changed?
Oh, yeah, I heard about that.
It was a good one.
And then they took a couple of these kids to prison, and they were complaining vigorously
about how they're treated in prison. But they're scared, right?
Yeah. But this is the part I wanna get to. Your communities are not alone. Our history teaches
that each swelling tide of bigotry will target more than just one group,
and it will too often
threaten all who have known discrimination.
That's everyone in California.
Not to Jews.
Oh, not to Jews.
That's right.
They don't know what it's like.
We are living through a moment now with African Americans, Asian Americans, Latino Jews, LGBTQ+,
Californians all experience greater vitriolity.
You know what I like about this?
It's basically everyone but white people. Yeah.
So, okay, they do a thing all the time where they go,
blacks, Jews, Asians, Palestinians, LGBT,
all being targeted.
Well, who's targeting them?
Well, I guess it's the group you left out.
Do you know what I mean?
Yes.
Which is white people, but what they never really talk about is black people targeting Jews.
Or Asians.
Or black people targeting Asians. Yes, go ahead.
Or the Palestinians targeting Jews.
Oh, forgot about that one. Yeah. They're all just being targeted.
When former President Trump announced his patently hateful Muslim ban to bar travel
from Muslim majority countries, California took him to court to stop him.
When white right-wing extremists, they left out the word MAGA extremists.
Ask Europe.
Every place needs more Muslims.
Ask France.
You just told me how the tides are changing.
Now I'm reading this thing. I want to... I can't. Because he's just a liar. That's... Ask... Ask... Ask... Ask...
Ask...
You just told me how the tides are changing.
Now I'm reading this thing.
I want to...
I can't.
Because he's just a liar.
He's a rabble rouser.
I don't know, rabble rouser.
He's a fear peddler that ends up creating more division, but keep going.
Okay.
Our efforts must continue amidst the current conflict, the Middle East.
Arab American Palestinian leaders have...
I've also heard that many Muslim Arab American
Palestinian American leaders, that many fear speaking out against the deaths of civilians
in Gaza.
A lot.
And they fear speaking out?
They interrupt every event speaking out.
They're fearful.
The Palestinians and the Arab Americans are fearful to speak out against what's going
on in Gaza?
Isn't that all we hear?
It's all projection.
It's crazy.
But what's interesting to me is like, for instance, the disruption at St. Patty's Cathedral
during Easter, that was white people doing that.
And who wrote this?
Some white chick who went to Stanford.
Yes.
None of us should be able to witness the death of thousands upon thousands, not just thousands,
thousands upon thousands.
Upon thousands, because thousands wouldn't cover it.
Right.
Without our hearts breaking, the scale of suffering in Gaza is so vast that it seems
few Palestinians across the world have been spared personal loss.
Here in California, one leader in the Palestinian-American community told me of his work counseling community members who have lost family members, but now after losing 23 of his family members,
he is left searching for his own counselor.
Yeah, well, maybe if you try not to exterminate the Jews so often, and maybe have a shot at
life.
But one of the things that bothers me about this is that I have no doubt that people are
suffering, right?
But this sort of exploits
it in some weird way. It makes us talk about it in pejorative ways.
Well, look, if there's a war, then civilians are going to die.
Yes.
And if there's a war where the combatants hide amongst the civilians and underneath
the civilians, then more civilians
will die.
That's how that war works, right?
Building on our anti-hate agenda.
Oh, he's got an anti-hate agenda.
I authorize the immediate expansion of funds for nonprofit security grant program to bolster
safety and security in places of worship across the state.
Oh, because all the Muslims are being attacked.
Right. I've also worked closely with
But not the synagogues. Promote student safety, mental health and belonging.
Student safety.
Oh boy.
All right, I can't.
Come on, keep going.
Oh my God.
Come on, you gotta get to it.
All right. Oh, this is something else.
Blah, blah, blah. After I convened a meeting with leaders of uccsu and community colleges. I wrote a letter
Urging universities to enforce campus safety policies and cultivate spaces for affinity and dialogue. We are now seeing progress across the state
Who's doing all the violence on campuses to choose
At the k-12 level California's first-in-the-nation ethnic study course.
Oh, that'll do it.
Will contribute to a climate of inclusion.
Oh, it always works.
And beyond our borders in November, we shipped a field hospital and vital medical supplies
to support humanitarian relief for civilians in Gaza.
In recent weeks, the California National Guard has continued to participate in efforts to
deliver aid. Still, these contributions are no substitute for the enormous surge of aid that Gaza and civilians
desperately need. And while our anti-hate efforts have, here in California are an important start,
there is more work ahead, which is always his thing.
There's always work.
The work's not done.
There's always work. Anti-hate.
As we chart the path forward, California for all, whatever that is. That's what is, that's
where this dream is. I asked, isn't this the most diverse polyglot state that we've ever had? Yes.
Okay. Dialogue we've already begun, I'm committed to deepening our partnership at every level of
state government, including blah, blah, blah, to every Muslim, Palestinian American, Arab American
who calls California home, please know that you belong here.
These are California citizens he's talking to, right?
Not-
Yeah.
All right, what does that mean?
Just nothing?
Means he's a cool guy, your mom would love him.
Yeah, he'd let my mom go, God damn, you're right.
We gotta vote for him again.
Yeah.
Your grandma.
Your grandma would have some notes,
but she would love him too.
That's just word salad, right?
There's nothing there.
But all it does,
it creates, right now.
No, you wanna know what it does?
Yeah.
That is exactly the same as every NFL game
having in the end zone and racism.
You now assume, well, we got a big problem here
with these groups,
and they're being attacked. It's ironic that they're doing all the attacking.
Yeah, and also sort of promoting kind of a racist agenda in a weird way.
Well, their whole thing is, you know, my bill, California Inclusion for All, would take K through 12 teachers
and then in their home room,
separate every group into an ethnicity
and then have them sit
and then white people sit in the hall
and then we'll explain what our grievances are.
Like, oh, that'll help.
That'll cure this.
I've been yelling about this for a million years.
They're just hustlers.
Gavin Newsom is a race hustler.
They're all just race hustlers using these people
because it's politically expedient
and to the detriment of those people.
So where is the French underground in this one?
It's me.
And it's everyone else who's just kind of had an asshole
who's just speaking into a microphone. Okay, that's it
All right
Las Vegas tomorrow over Jimmy Kimmel clubs Jimmy's Club two shows over there
Then there's Bakersfield that's coming up at the historic Bakersfield Fox here doing stand-up there April 13th
And then there's Chicago
That'll be April 19th and 20th at the Den Theater.
Salt Lake City, Utah, Wise Guys, May 3rd and 4th.
Just go to AdamCroft.com for all the live shows.
What do you got, Drew?
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Check out G. Van Fleet, the woman I was talking about
that lived through the Cultural Revolution.
It will be eye-opening.
So, until next time, Adam Kroll for Dr. Drew,
say it, mahalo.
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