The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1854 We Like to Win
Episode Date: April 18, 2024Today, Dr. Drew begins the show by sharing the recent loss of his canine companion and the devastating feelings that followed, Adam introduces us to Smokey Yunick, and another (wo)man sets a record. P...lus, they share their thoughts on California after being away in other states respectively, and where is the this trans movement going? Leave us a voice mail: https://wwxw.speakpipe.com/AdamandDrDrew
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All right, what's going on, Dr. Erskine?
So I think I mentioned to you,
but I did not mention to the listeners,
we had Ami in here last week and things were busy,
but we lost a dog.
Ami Horowitz.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I talked about this.
Yeah, Rex.
Yeah, and it rocked our world And I talked about this. Yeah, Rex.
Yeah.
And it rocked our world.
I am having trouble getting over, first I was shocking.
I had a normal dog at five o'clock, six o'clock he gets sick.
Susan texts me, what's wrong with this dog?
I start abusing her.
I'm like, what's wrong with you?
I don't know, the dog's fine.
Why are you so anxious?
Right.
And they get there and the dog is laid out and you know seven
hours later he's gone. It was just wild. And it was a shocking and b just I mean
got the grief reaction this dog created. I'm never experiencing anything like it.
I was sitting here this morning just think I had another wave of it this
morning. More or less than when your mom died. More.
Oh yeah.
Hey, here's a tip for parents.
If your adult children are more grief stricken
over the loss of a pet than you,
that does not bode well for you as a parent.
Oh God.
Yes?
It occurred to me. It Yes? It occurred to me.
It occurred?
It occurred to me.
Now that you bring it out, I'm not proud of it.
No.
But nothing like this.
I know, it's sad.
Like, terrible.
But this guy was in my life, like he was,
I was connected to him, and I couldn't understand why,
we had two other Australian shepherds before, this guy, and
they were great dogs, but I just didn't have this reaction. This is just like, we're ten
days in, I'm still like struggling a little bit. And it's, I don't know, I guess it's
the attachment. I mean, some people, things, you get really, really attached to, you know, and then,
and then, and then I, he was, you know, as Douglas, my son was saying, you know,
the dog was a 10, it was like a special kind of dog that he enjoyed life and
stuff. He said, I'm, I'm for him, I'm upset too, that he's, uh, but then again,
you know, that it went fast. I always hoped for that for him.
And he was 12, 12. Yeah, almost 13. That's not bad. Not, not bad.
Apparently, especially for this breed and they get this problem and that was telling us about it
we're taking trying to take it all in and not hurt it all before and
But there you go. So there we are. That's on my mind and it's something I've been thinking about a lot and it's
Had my first good night's sleep last night, which was nice
Well, I'm not gonna tell you any stories about me losing a pet because that's everyone's
reflexive angle.
That's their response to hearing about your dog dying.
They go on to a story about their dog dying, which I don't know, seems like bad etiquette
to me.
That's poor form.
Everyone's had a dog who's died.
Although it made me sympathetic to people who've made, I didn't understand how much pain it can cause.
I really didn't get it.
And so I apologize to some people who I was like,
I'm sorry, I understand now, I get it, I'm sorry.
Yeah, but I think it's a lot about
your sort of station in life.
Like if your kids were all still living at home and young,
you'd probably have less of a reaction.
Not only that, I remember my dad lost a dog
when he was about my age and he had a big reaction to it.
He kept talking about how surprised he was,
and it was kind of sudden.
It was a good dog that hit by a car and stuff.
And I thought, I wonder if it's get a certain age
it's more problematic or something.
Well, I do remember when my mom was on the way out,
my dad, who was married to her,
I mean, he knew firsthand who she was.
And I remember when she was kinda getting
into her last days, and when my dad kept saying,
you go over there, you tell her you love her, you tell her you love her.
And I was like, she's not opening her eyes.
I'm like, you hold her hand.
And he got very adamant.
And he really doesn't get adamant about things, but he got very adamant about it.
And about the third time he said you better you know go over there and
tell her you love her no matter what you know i was like was he doing that for you no he's doing it for him oh he's going i'll be checking out next and i want you to come by and
do that here i mean you tell me he didn't say this is for me he just got very animated about
He didn't say this is for me. He just got very animated about telling her you love her
when she's non-responsive, which is fine.
I mean, well, file and under doesn't hurt,
but he was very adamant about it,
and I think part of it he was talking about him.
My wish, I mean, hope is he was talking
at least a little bit about you,
because people do regret not doing that kind of thing while someone
Is still alive they do
Normal people. I don't I wouldn't
Would he
Regular people would regret that I just a great and he's not an old person either necessarily
So do you think he had any thoughts of you even though
You wouldn't have that happen. I think he probably thought that it would not hurt for you to do it
Yeah, for you good idea
No, I mean, I think it was understood that she was sort of out of it. Okay, right, you know, so so maybe maybe not, it was probably a multi-parter. I think it was
something to do for me, something to do for her, and something to do for him who's two years behind
her and probably would want this treatment. You see what I'm saying?
Yeah. I'm also just thinking about your kids and how they didn't even know what your mom best wishes. It's such a close relationship with them
Yeah, I never told them. They still don't they know they found out
Six months later a year. I don't know, you know when you don't have a funeral
Yeah, and and or wake. wake or any ceremony of any kind, pressure's
off. Do you know what I mean? Because when do you need to tell your kids their grandma
is gone, there's no wake. There's nothing, we don't have to attend anything. You know
what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So when is the time right? And they didn't really, you know what I'm saying yeah, so when is that when's the time right right and they didn't really you know
It is a cautionary tale for others
Which part the the case we're making you deadbeat dads and stuff that you know people that don't have a close relationship with their kids
Yeah, but so here's the thing about deadbeat dads and sort of parents that don't care
They don't care that you're sort of putting it through your lens,
your filter a little bit.
They're kind of, they're okay with it,
which is how they get to this place in the first place.
You know what I mean?
Like your adult kids don't really like you.
They don't want to spend time with you.
They don't respect you.
Your grandkids, you don't really know them.
And as we know them. And they're good with it. Now they wouldn't want to spend time with you, they don't respect you, your grandkids, you don't really know them.
And as we know them.
And they're good with it.
Now they wouldn't be good with it if they're wired like you, but they're not wired like
you, they're wired like them.
And they're cool with it.
Yeah.
And we remind ourselves that we have many kids that we talk to who idealize those dads
that they saw twice a year, got a card from once a year.
Remember that?
Yeah. You know, O.J from once a year. Remember that? Yeah.
You know, OJ's dad was gay.
Really?
Yeah.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
Where'd you hear that from?
When I was watching The Made in America,
was it Made in America or was that the series?
No.
Were you watching a documentary or?
Yeah, I was watching The Doc.
Oh. Was that made in America?
Okay, the shows the people versus OJ. Oh, yeah. Okay. There you go. Well, I was watching this one
Him and his his buddies
Like one over to the other side of town to visit dad
Cuz OJ was growing up in the projects in San Francisco
who had projects, and they went to the other side of town to go visit dad, and they basically
said dad answered the door in a bathrobe, and when they sort of peeked in, there was
another guy in there in a bathrobe, too.
And they said, in the black community,
that's about as low as you can go.
So did he forsake his dad at that?
Back then.
His dad seemed to have like put on some, you know,
a smile and showed up at the USC game, you know,
after he got the Heisman or whatever, you know,
kind of pulled it together.
It came out as gay when OJ was four years old,
became a drag queen, known as Mama Simpson,
died of AIDS in 1986.
Geez.
Yeah.
Wow.
Maybe sheds a little light with OJ.
I mean, a little turns of like, just more confusion.
Yeah, or disconnecting.
More chaos.
Disconnecting from anything except
who he'd created himself into.
Yeah, right, right, right.
I'm gonna distance myself from the past
as fast as I can do it.
And I hear also that John McKay was instrumental in getting his oars in the water and straightening
the rudder out and stuff, right?
Coach McKay.
Yeah.
He was like, hey, dude, you're a screw up.
You could be great.
Stop it.
We're playing you those great McKay clips, right?
And I do love that guy.
John McKay was kind of Yogi Berra for football.
You know what?
At the time, I wasn't aware of that.
You're absolutely correct.
But did that brand stick at the time or were you just aware of it again?
You noticed?
He would show up on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson and stuff as the coach for the,
you know, back when a coach made a hundred grand, eighty grand a year.
But I agree. But you don't really remember him as somebody, at the time I don't remember him,
the quips and being funny and that kind of thing. It's straightforward. I don't know.
His greatest line, I mean, I must have told this to you, but his greatest line is they
just had a horrible game and they didn't score any points.
The reporter goes, what do you think about your offense's execution?
And he goes, I'm all for it.
That's a great line.
And obviously then some football coach repeated that line as a joke
at a press conference and then we saw it
and then got torn apart
because that's the society we're living in.
No, he was going, it's an old joke.
It's all jump, remember he was like.
It doesn't matter.
Everyone just jumps on everything now.
All right, what else are you thinking about?
I was in New Orleans over the weekend.
It was interesting.
You were in
Bakersfield Fresno something like that. Yep, and how are things in Central, California these days?
Is it different than down here
Let's see I mean, it's help. I think of California suffering and miserable and yeah all the way around
People are not happy about the governor and sort of the state of this union.
How do they reelect that guy if everyone is unhappy?
I don't get it.
So I was in Florida also over the weekend.
I went from New Orleans to Florida.
And again, everyone happy.
And they may not be super on board with everything their governor says, but they are certainly
happy with the quality of life that that state provides. And they may not be super on board with everything their governor says, but they are certainly happy
with the quality of life that that state provides.
Yeah, I don't know.
I would say, I don't know,
let's see if we can figure this one out.
You ready?
Yeah.
Who is least likely to change their mind
when presented with the evidence.
You know what I'm saying?
You mean a kind of person or?
What group?
You know what I mean?
Like I heard a study that is kind of interesting,
or not a study but a poll.
It's something like Biden is, sorry,
Trump is at 30% with black men,
which was 12%, you know, last election.
It's up, right?
Black women, 11%.
So a one third.
Now you'd kind of think that they'd sort of vote as a block
and kind of move together, but no, no,
black women, not even close.
So black women are probably the least likely to move.
You know, in terms of what, women, sorry.
Okay, sorry.
Black women, women in general, don't move.
My mom, her last words is, you know,
I'm voting for Newsome.
You know what I mean?
Give me some granola.
Yeah, men can probably move a little easier.
Men who don't think like women.
Men who don't think like women.
So California is a chick think state.
It's a pink state, it's think.
But why, wherever we go, people are so unhappy with it.
So being unhappy, the plight of the black community has not gotten any better over Joe Biden and you could argue it's gotten worse.
Yeah.
OK, so black men have upped their shit 20 percentage points going fuck this.
Yeah.
Black women aren't moving.
Hmm.
So you go, why? And then like the answer is because that's how I vote and that's who I voted for last time.
And I. I get that, but I don but I don't encounter many of those people.
I don't seem to or maybe...
I'm not saying California is all black women.
I'm saying California is femininely based and they don't change their mind.
Do you encounter?
They don't change your mind because it's admittance that they were wrong the first time and they
don't want to go down that road.
They do the same thing with COVID.
So if you heard any apologies for COVID,
you know what I mean?
They don't wanna go there.
Even though they're unhappy
and express their unhappiness,
they still don't change their mind.
Got it, got it, got it, got it.
Well, yes, and if you're femininely based,
you're way more apt to believe, he know, he said he was going to be a dictator on day one, or he said to inject bleach, or he said they're good people on both sides.
You are much more apt to imbibe that and hang on to it.
Where do you think the transgender thing is going these days. That's speaking of women, I saw over the weekend that kid that, you know, male to female,
outran everybody by a quarter mile or something,
it looked like.
And the 220?
Yeah, and the 220.
Yeah.
And then Scott Adam made a comment, he goes,
man, men really wanna win.
They really like to win.
Yeah, we like to win.
And so they'll figure out a way to be able to win.
Well, I mean, look, let's break it down.
And, Amy, you can find that tape of that guy setting the record in Oregon.
Okay.
Quiet.
I'm going to give you a name that's going to fit and dovetail nicely into this. Smokey Eunuch. Eunuch. Interesting.
Okay.
You know who Smokey Eunuch is?
I do not know who Eunuch is.
Yeah, well, this is Smokey Eunuch. Smokey Eunuch was a guy who built NASCARs,
who built stock cars, and he was a notorious cheater.
And he would do anything and everything just to shave a few
and cheat a few, you know what I mean?
And there's Smokey, smoking his pipe,
got his glasses on top of his hat, so he's a Trump voter.
For a picture.
Smokey Unick cannot be alive.
But wait a minute, for a picture,
he puts his glasses on top of a cowboy hat.
What is that?
Smokey Eunuch did things you could never think of to a car to try to just cheat the regulations
just a little bit.
Adam, why the glasses on the head?
That is so mystifying to me.
He's a portrait.
Smokey's an engineer and he was probably working on some shit and someone said we want a picture.
It's a matte background. It's a portrait. He sat for a portrait. He's a kept a hat on and put some
Yeah, all right Smokey
You know Smokey would do stuff like this, right?
I could they go oh the car fuel tank can only hold 20 gallons, right? Right? Yeah
No more than 20 gallons of fuel
All right
But what if you made the fuel line super fat that went all the way front of the car then get another gallon in there
Yeah, yeah wide fuel. I mean he did everything that's the kind of stuff that
Red Bulls being accused of over an f1. Yeah, that's what males do. Yeah
All right
So wouldn't it make sense that if you want to win that badly and you're not
winning running against males, you'll slide over to the female side of the track and field
and mop up?
Now, so, I always enjoy this because this is what I call bitten by your own snake.
These are all the same fucking people
that applaud all this shit.
Now the girls are getting their ass kicked
and they don't know what to do.
Well, but I don't understand the ones
that are embracing it.
That's what I'm having trouble with.
No one really embraces it.
They just get-
And that coach, that basketball coach.
They're not embracing.
She said she seemed to.
No, no.
Here's what they do.
Here's what everyone does.
Nobody wants to be hassled.
Everyone kinda, they embrace this
like you embraced wearing, like,
half the people I saw wearing a mask
had it below their nose.
Am I right? Correct.
Are they embracing hygiene?
Or are they just kinda? Signaling Well, they want to be left alone.
You know what I mean?
So we've turned this into such a powder keg that everyone just goes, yeah, yeah, I'm all
the girl believes she should believe and I believe, I believe that she believes.
And then they just leave because they don't want to get into it.
Was it from, I can't remember who she was coaching coach for, but she was so emphatic.
I thought, I thought at the time I thought, oh, she'd like to bring that onto the team., but she was so emphatic, I thought, I thought at the time, I thought,
oh, she'd like to bring that onto the team.
No, she wasn't emphatic, she was just getting questioned
and she was irritated that she was being asked that question.
I mean, think about it, if you're really into it,
bring it on over, you'll do very well as a basketball team.
Yes, it's bound to happen.
So, nobody gives a shit.
There's a small group of people.
Remember when you and Jimmy played basketball
two on two against those?
Chuggy twins.
Was it Chuggy twins?
I thought it was actually, you actually.
They played in college.
Oh, that's what it was.
I think that's what it was.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
You won.
They played strip basketball.
All right, the whole point is this.
Nobody believes in this.
People are scared shitless, so they go along with it.
And then at some point, consequences start rolling in.
Okay, what percentage of people believed
in defund the police?
I talked to people.
They really didn't believe it.
There's a handful of super loud assholes with bad ideas
and the rest of us are like,
oh, I just don't wanna scotty.
I don't wanna fucking offend black people.
I don't want any trouble.
I don't wanna get shit.
I don't wanna get fired.
So there's always one group that's loud,
a bunch of fucking scared people,
scared whitey just goes along.
They just go along.
And then at some point, these notions turn into actions.
Like at some point, the police does pull back
or do get defund or we do shut every business for COVID
or we do start letting males run with females in track.
And then now we have results.
And then once we get results,
people are a little more easily,
now they can kinda go, well maybe it wasn't,
they thought it wasn't a good idea in the first place,
they're just fucking cowards
and they didn't wanna say anything.
So they just kinda hung back.
You ever heard of the Overton window?
Yes.
It's the Overton window opening is what that is.
Yes.
It's how it opens.
Things that we can discuss.
Yeah.
And so then as more of this happens,
then more people go, is it safe?
Like I didn't get my son vaccinated,
but that was three years ago,
but I didn't wanna say anything then
because I didn't wanna be destroyed.
But it's been three years and my son was 11
and I didn't get him vaccinated.
Can I say something now?
And then someone goes, I think it's okay now.
By the way, it's okay now people, fuck you.
Because we don't need you now.
We needed you then.
I agree.
Not now.
But now everyone's like,
maybe the whole trans thing is not a good idea.
And maybe cutting off healthy body parts for teenagers
isn't a wise choice and all this.
And then at some point European nations
will outlaw a few things and then they go,
geez, they did it over there in Denmark.
Oh, I wonder what they know.
And then it becomes, now we can talk about it.
So we can't really talk about it.
But now we're getting, no, now we're talking about it.
We're talking about it.
It doesn't mean anything's changing just yet.
But a few more wins and a few more state records
from a few more dudes and we'll...
Look, okay, let's do a thought experiment, right?
When What's is Fuck was going up against Riley Gaines
in the swimming pool, right?
Parents scared shitless to say anything.? Parents scared shitless to say anything.
Coaches scared shitless to say anything.
School administration coaching up the girls
about what not to say, what they could say.
No girl on the team would open her mouth
even though they got this six foot four fucking dolphin
just throwing you out of the pool with his wake.
All right? yeah who said shit
Coaches no administration. No parents. No student body. No
Classmates and in teammates. No, no one said shit cuz they were scared. Yeah, that was
Three years ago and then really good half years ago. Are the gains now people are talking. Yeah, okay
That's where we're at.
We're in the middle part.
Yeah.
And then we'll get to the part
where it's the worst fucking idea ever.
And soon.
Well it's interesting.
It'll take the same trajectory as COVID.
Really the interesting question is,
does, you know, it's unthinkable to bring it up.
Do you get to the point where it's unthinkable
to do that to somebody?
Yes.
You mean cut off like healthy tissue and give them hormones?
There's a place for it.
No, there's a place for it.
Not when you're 14 or whatever.
Not at this.
Well, also the studies say that most people change their mind when they're 25.
So now we're in a better...
It's got to be the right treatment for the right patient.
And Nikki, Jim Norton's wife, I love her take on it.
She's Norwegian. They have a whole system,
it's all done through mental health, carefully examined.
She goes, look, I'm taking these dangerous medications
the rest of my life, I've got a condition here,
and it's working for me, I got the right treatment,
the right assessment.
I mean, it's on the way out in mass.
This kind of not proper evaluation is what's missing,
it's just the automatic,
the automatic. Listen, you see that pediatrician that was, uh,
I think I sent you the, the, uh, TikTok or something or Instagram.
The pediatrician was saying that if you don't use the right pronouns to children,
you are damaging them. Yeah. Yeah. Well,
but she doesn't mean the actual pronouns that apply to their genetic makeup.
She means whatever the kid wants to be called.
Yes, all right.
We're gonna have to wrestle society back from these idiots.
All right, Amy, you got that tape?
Or Byron?
You know, Smokey Eunuch died, no one.
Byron, if you have the tape, put it on the screen.
Or indicate to me that you have it.
That's my only ask.
Who will it be?
Jaden Van Der Vee in seventh for Oregon Episcopal, Abby Wilson.
She is going to be 100 yards. Great drive.
You know who could outrun this kid, OJ in this front. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Won the race by 70 yards?
I don't know, the other women are bunched up.
The other women are separated by 7 tenths, 4 tenths, 2 tenths.
The guy, we'll just call him a guy,
he then won by 80 yards and set a new record.
30, 77, there's guys.
Is that somebody who identifies as transgender
or just says I'm a girl?
You know what I'm saying?
Well, all bets are off now because who knows?
It looks like a dude to me,
but that dude just set the
Oregon State Record and then Oregon is gonna do this but here's the whole thing
Drew on behalf of who the girls you know what I mean like who they protecting
who they who they fans of then I mean like there no there no are they helping
this group is Al Sharpton helping black people? You know what I mean?
It's like, are any of these groups
helping their constituency?
And the answer is no.
Well, what's interesting though is
that we've entered this time
when certain things take infinite precedent
over other things.
Yes. COVID.
Infinite precedent over anything else in your life.
Yes.
With zero value put on everything else.
Yes.
And so infinite value put on supporting transgender
individuals, zero value put on destroying women's athletes
or women's athletics.
Yeah.
That is us.
What is that?
That is the most odd way to think I've ever seen in my life.
Yes.
And we're doing that as though it's not only not odd, but the right and good way to think.
Yes.
Ugh.
Well, you have people and their sort of foibles, and the foibles are they jump on stuff.
But the Francis Collins said it out loud.
He's a former head of the NIH, he said
he said we put infinite importance into suppressing this thing and zero value in
businesses or mental health or anything else we did as a consequence. Anything
else. Cuomo has his speech of we save one person, there's one person, really? Why'd you
put them all in the fucking nursing homes
and lock them up, you fucking retard?
I mean, yes, it's not a way to think or govern.
It doesn't make sense.
One death is too many in a pandemic.
I know.
Pandemic is defined by excess death.
Yeah, it is too many, I agree.
Pandemics suck, yeah.
It's like we can't set policy based on that.
Well, we're gonna have to get some adults
Is it childishness is that well, here's the thing?
Just weird hysteria when Biden was running the promise was the adults were gonna come back in the room Not the hysteric bitches, you know, you know what I mean?
Remember the adults were gonna come back in
Do we get adults? Oh, we got hysterics. We got non-adults in the
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