The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1859 Gentle Pushback

Episode Date: May 1, 2024

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and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get on the chair. They're going to make me get it on, Dr. Drew's board certified specialist. Yeah, buddy. What's going on, man?

Well, Adam and I spent the weekend together. Extraordinary. My son got married over the weekend and Adam stayed at the venue, which was awesome. It was good to see you all weekend. Yeah. Interesting. Everyone was very happy. It was a lovely wedding and my son and daughter-in-law seemed extremely happy and we loved that.

But I also got to spend a little time with Adam and we talked a little bit about weak people for a couple of hours. We talked about cars, we talked about robots, we talked about weak. And I started thinking about the weak part. And we have like enhanced weakness. We've made it a, not just a virtue, but we've... Not empowered, these are two weaker words. We've made it a... I guess virtue is probably the strongest word I could use. It's something that's a value and the weakness itself is... No, no, no, because here's what it is. I'm still struggling with this.

We put forces in place that make weakness worse and make weak people do worse things. I think that's what it is. Well, if you really break down society, society is things that people would like to do and are sort of inherently built to do. And it's all based on what a six-year-old would do. You know? And so what a six-year-old would say, you know, we have one apple and there's you and your sister

and the six-year-old would go, I'll keep the apple. And you go, but don't you think you should split it with your sister? And then you go, six-year-old would go, no, I think I should take it. And that's how kids are. That's how we're all born into it. And there's layers to that too. We could sell the kid, no, no, no, oh, I understand, no, shut the door, apple goes. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, we are born into a kind of a self-centered narcissism, you

know? There's actually a term for that. It's called primary narcissism. Yeah, that's how we're all born. And I don't think we expect much out of a five-year-old in that department. There are weird and rare exceptions. My son is a weird and rare exception in that he's, I was just looking at his car today, parked out in the driveway, covered with the leaves from the oak tree that's over it,

and they're really piling up. And I said to him, when's the last time you drove your car? Is this a new, nice car that he got recently? He goes, I don't know, it's been about a few days, four days maybe. And I'm like, four days? You know, it's a teenager.

You know, it's got a different world, man. He goes, yeah, I like to walk. You know, it's a teenager. You know, it's got a different world, man. He goes, yeah, I like to walk. You know, I walk most places. He said, if I can walk, then I don't really need to drive the car. Now, that's a weird for us. That's, well, so that puts him in some sort of percentile that's not even the 10%, the percentile,

because even the most decent, hardworking, even-handed people in the world would still be driving the car. And I don't know that he's motivated by decency. He just has a kind of a baked-in pragmatism that, in sort of maturity, that you just don't find in most adults. If I were 15 and I'd drive my car and needed to walk, it's because I was depressed and needed a pace and just get into my head, man. Or you would have driven down to the ocean and stared off the bluff.

That's for sure. I would not have been motivated by Green. I would have been worried about the environment, even though I was at the time. No, and he's not motivated by the Green movement either. He just has a sort of built in maturity. So you can take a very small percentage of the populace and just kind of go, well, we don't need to worry about them. My son doesn't need to have a bunch of life lessons

beaten into him about doing unto others as you've had done to yourself. There's no golden rule. It's baked in. Some people have a golden rule sort of thing baked into them. Well, just the way some people have psychopathy baked in, they can't appreciate other people's feelings, they don't care about feelings. That's a thing.

It's in their brain. So you can have an acute pragmatism, you've gotta have an acute moral instinct, moral sensibility, these things can be baked in, and they can be cultivated. Pretty much anything that can be baked in can also be cultivated. Right, so for the rest of us, then that's where the parenting comes in,

and that's where the parents and the cops and the principals and the teachers and the counselors and the coaches and at some point the drill sergeant and the boss or the foreman, you know, that's where these figures start to creep in. And those people understand that they're sort of doing battle. The battle is a baked-in human nature versus a kind of a breaking them in creating a new nature. For instance, anybody who's ever been a golf instructor will see that the person's natural form for swinging a golf club is not correct, you know, and the natural instinct is to lift your head and sort of kick it out, you know,

and every golf instructor says keep your head down, keep your head down, you know, and, you know, eventually they break the person and the person keeps their head down, but it's not a natural form. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And so we have a bunch of then people in our society, nutritionists, you know, coaches, tutors, you know, whatever it is, life coaches who are there to kind of break you of what your natural inclination and form

would be if you were just sort of left alone, you know? No candy for breakfast, we're having eggs, you know? That's okay. And then there's the big overarching one, which is religion. That's the umbrella that used to go over everybody. And now we've eroded that, you know, religion, and we've eroded authority figures, and we've eroded a sort of parental, you know, constraints and, you know, parental mandates and things like that. School figures have sort of stepped aside a little bit and made way a lot.

Sort of joining in at Columbia. Yeah, the kind of stuff you could never have gotten away with. Cops have sort of stood down. And as these, and then also a lowering of a standard, where, well, you used to have to do 10 chin-ups in order to make it through basic training. Well, they can't make 10 chin-ups.

We'll have no trainees then. Right, so what about math test scores in Oakland? We'll lower that so people can... So it makes perfect obvious mechanical and mathematical sense that as all these things got lowered, people and their activities that we're trying to break, essentially, and I don't mean break, you know, like your wild style, you know,

although I do, I don't mean break you down. I just mean we're trying to create some habits for you. Those have gone away. We used to have to get up at seven in the morning, get ready and go to school. We got rid of the alarm clock. So now you're just kind of sleeping in, right? And also we got rid of school for a couple of years. We said to you show up when you want to show up or don't show up at all. Right.

Okay. So it makes perfect sense that this is what would be the byproduct of that, right? And trying to then circle back and reinstitute these sort of norms is really like breaking and resetting societal bones, you know? And so you find yourself, you know, I would find myself as, you know, a dad on a Sunday and the kid's going, oh, we want fro-yo, you know? I don't know, 10 years old or something.

I'd go, well, here's $5, go walk to the corner and go get it, you know? And then my wife would go, no, they can't walk alone, you know, and I'd go, it's perfectly safe, it's fine, let them go, let them explore, let them figure it out, let them have the experience, you know? Like, no, you're not going alone, you know? So what would have been

The most common thing in the world what we all experienced growing up. Yeah, uh every Every single person of a certain age says to me when I was a kid during the summer We get on our bikes at eight in the morning We'd leave the house wouldn't come home till seven at night. No one knew where we were You know, it's like everybody had that shared, that same experience. So now you are considered a dangerous parent, a bad parent, an irresponsible parent.

There's also like a lot of weird judging and sort of group judge, you know, that goes along. Because then someone else goes, he wanted the kids to walk alone to school? Yeah, he said they could walk alone to get Froyo. What? Now there's a chorus of Matt Damon, just shut up.

That's our mob tendency, right? We are really tending to mob. We should try to figure that out. What do these two things have in common? The weakening of standards, the weakening of people, and the tendency towards mob formation. I guess what you would say is, if you don't have your own thoughts and feelings, or you can't trust them, or you haven't developed them, you're going to go, that's too simple. That's too simple an explanation.

There's something, well, it's the narcissism, of course. It's the narcissism. I think that's the narcissism. I think that's what it is. The narcissists love to form mobs because they want to act out their narcissistic rage and they don't want to do it on each other because it's too dangerous. It's also a lack of experience and experiences. Our football coaches used to run us ragged up and down the field in the middle of the

summer, you know, in the middle of the San Fernando Valley and wouldn't give us water. But they gave you salt pills. Yeah. They gave you some salt pills. You crap up without water. No, get used to it. It sucked, but it didn't. We're all fine.

We didn't die. Nobody died, you know what I mean? And by the way, then people will say, oh no, people in Florida, college students, they've dropped dead. 100% of those were either on some sort of performance enhancing drug, or like an albuterol inhaler, or some sort of pharmacological agent that made no physio. I don't know if they get that far. They just, it's a norm, and it has followed some trajectory

that we look at, and as I've yelled at you for 25 years, just because it's progress doesn't make it good. And it also, it all kind of gets thrown into one hamper. You know, it's sort of, it is progress. So it's like you- Big, big, beautiful tomorrow. Is that from Disneyland?

Yeah. I never went. Oh. Out of range, man. Dude. Yeah. It's everybody, all right, anyway. So you take something like, you know, gay rights.

You know, and you go, you know, back in the day, if two men were holding hands walking down the street, they'd be beaten by cops, you know, and you go, oh, yeah, no, the day, if two men were holding hands walking down the street, they'd be beaten by cops. You know, and you go, oh, yeah, no, that's, whew. Glad we're done with that chapter. You know what I mean? We're moving forward, and a man and another man can love one another without fear of reprisal.

You know, and they go, yeah, good, good, good, good. And then, you know, they'll talk Jim Crow stuff. You know, they'd have to enter through the back of the restaurant, had to sit at the counter. Oh, good, no, good, we're glad, done with that, done with that. Well, they lump all of this in with that. See, that's the problem.

They lump all of this in as sort of progress, meaning, well, yeah, when you were a kid, you could walk through the corner and get some ice cream alone when you were 10. But now we know. But now we know. And so, it's almost like Gay Rights or Jim Crow, like you don't get it, Grandpa.

We've grown out of this. And what you guys don't realize is a lot of the stuff you've grown out of was important and good and necessary. And you think you're just moving forward all the time. And this is where we're living. This is the problem. I thousand percent agree. And I don't think you could get the average person to sort of accept that progress isn't forward motion unless you sort of point out that, well, the reason grandpa was able to ride his bike to school or do whatever the hell he wanted to

the fro-yo, what do we have? Custard. Frozen custard. Yeah. So we could do that was because crime was under control, sexual abuse of children was not tolerated, neighborhoods watched out for one another, watched out each other's kids, because they knew all the kids were out there playing. There was a degeneration of the safeguards that you need to allow kids to be able to do those healthy things. Yeah, I would say that generally I agree with that,

but in my neighborhood, we didn't suffer from any crime issues or child molestation. You mean in where you live now? Yes. Oh no, you live now? Yes. Oh no, but that's the point. That would be the point, which is, hey honey, you're thinking about Oakland now. This is this community.

This is one, two blocks of. Yeah, but let's never forget, Oprah says if it can happen here, it can happen anywhere. Which is another problem, right? People start generalizing rather than specifying. Yes. So we've removed a lot of what I always refer to as diet and exercise, sort of just old school, can't argue with it. A lot of it? Well, let's say almost all of it. And everyone's got a kooky, you know, life hack and everyone wants those. I don't even like the word hack. I don't either. It applies to electronics, digital.

Humus, non-digital, non-biological, no hack. Yeah, well you just think about weight loss and exercise or just weight loss and you go, everyone's got a new plan, a new idea, you're not taking enough salt water and you're not hydrating enough, you know, you're not doing this and you're not doing that, intermittent fasting. Somehow with none of that, everyone was skinny. So you have to kind of go, well, how does

that work? How does it work with none of this knowledge and none of the hacks and none of the intermittent whatever and none of the supplements, and everyone was just fit and skin. My grandfather was just sort of fit and trim his entire life. And what he did, and he didn't know anything. You know what I mean? He ate Hungarian food for dinner. He made a casserole with meat and potatoes and sauerkraut and fat and it. But when he woke up every morning, he did calisthenics in the living room. Like it just literally laid down on the carpet and did calisthenics. And we didn't have the word calisthenic anymore, but he,

he woke up every morning and he, he didn't have any rubber bands, stretchy stuff or weighted this or you know, ab flexors or anything. He laid down on the carpet and he did 40 sit-ups, you know, and then he did 10 push-ups, you know, and then he did like some weird, you know, burpee thing, you know, with his hands out, you know. Was he in the military when he was young? No, no. He just knew that you had to get up and you had to move a little bit, you know? And then he led a very active life.

He rode his bike to go shop. He went shopping every day. He went to the grocery store every day, and he picked out the meal for that evening. And he bought it, and he came home home and he cooked it. And then at some point he made himself a sandwich. He didn't count carbs or anything, you know, and he just went and watched some game show, you know, in his office for half hour. And then when he was done, he didn't rub one out and take a nap. He got back up and it was like time to go rake some leaves or take care of some project.

My grandfather had a... They had a pool about the size of this desk. You could literally stand in the deep end and have your head out of the water. It was like a hand dug pool. Is that the house you redid for one of the TV shows? No, that was my dad's house. Okay, yeah. And half my grandfather's adult life was cleaning the filter. He was always out there undoing the thing

and getting the diatomaceous earth. Oh, the big drum, the big one. Yeah, he was just out working on the filter all day. But the point is, he was just burning calories on his feet, engaged, eating whatever he wanted, but never overeating, cooking his own food. He cooked all his own meals, he never took it out.

He never ordered... No processed food. He never ordered a pizza. Yeah, yeah. So part of the thing for me is there's something about the diet and exercise thing that we as a society are leaving out, which is all this processed food and cornstarch and corn syrup and blah, blah, blah, the high calorie yummy stuff, we trend overweight. And once we're overweight, our body wants to stay there.

And so the fact that we let it happen at all because of all the fucked up foods, I think is the core issue. And then how we get back is the thing that gets complicated. That's where I think people get off the rail. Hey, I want to remind everyone this show is sponsored by BetterHelp. We all carry around stuff we keep bottled up. I mean who doesn't? And these days we're, Adam and I are talking about these things all the time, but therapy of course is a safe place to get things off your chest, figure out how to get through it, how to manage it, how to regulate your emotions. Both Adam and I

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get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelp, H-E-L-P dot com slash Adam and Drew. All right, let's see. We have some, I got a great, we have that Nancy Pelosi clip that's great. Which I love. Oh, here it is. The reason I love Nancy Pelosi is, I mean, you know I have those people that I've explained to you, like, have never...

Haven't heard the word no to their face in like 40 years, and they don't even know how to react when you do. Or how about to question what's true and what's not. If it comes out of their mouth, it's true. That's it. That's say it to the Lord. Right. And the thing that's funny about her, and I don't know why... Let me say this I'm never wrong okay when when

the hair on my arms start standing up about somebody you know there's people on the right and people on the left and you know some are good and some are better than others but there are a handful of people I just go look this is just a bad person let's see if I can make the hair stand up Adam Schiff yeah it's just like it's a bad person. Let's see if I can make the hair stand up. Adam Schiff. Yeah, it's just like, it's a bad person. And there's something wrong with Nancy Pelosi. Jerry Nassar. Yeah.

Well, I- There's a lot of them in there. No, I get, you have a side and you have, you wanna defend your side. And then that's fine. The right has it, the left has it. And then there's a way to go about it.

Robert, Bobby Kennedy's been asked a thousand times, you're anti-vax, you know, he doesn't yell fuck you, he goes here's my stance, and here's what I know. Here's what I actually said. Here's what I said, here's what I know. Here's what the data says. This is great because, first off, these people are well into their

80s at this point. Like at what point do they stop doing what they're doing and move over, you know? Well this is, there's a whole theory that ensconced elite is really what destroys things. Well I'd say. Yeah. All right so here's her on MSNBC weekend show. And she thought she was in friendly territory here, right? So they would just agree with, co-sign, amp on. To be fair to the news,

they're starting to realize that they have to ask some questions or have some follow-up. They're not allowed to just be a platform for the Democratic Party. All right, so here it is. Real legitimate concerns about immigration, globalization, innovation. She seems to be struggling a little bit too, by the way. She's like, I'm having trouble thinking.

And we have to address those concerns and Joe Biden is doing that. Created nine million jobs in his term in office. Donald Trump has the worst record of job loss of any president. So we just have to make sure people know. That was a global pandemic. He had the worst record of any president. We've had other concerns in our country. If you want to be an apologist for Donald Trump, that may be your role, but it ain't

mine and he has the worst. I don't think that anybody can we know but let me just say as a speaker of the house we put forth of three but I like this journal I will watch her show on MSNBC well it's more in the reaction of but but the first thing is very composed and she goes you wouldn't call me that you wouldn't call me an apologist for Trump no one would do that right I don't like that guy. Which is good. It's good for her.

So the first thing is, is she pushes back on Nancy Pelosi to a medium sized degree, which is, well, there was a pandemic. I would call that very gentle. It was gentle, but it was a pushback. Yep. Nancy Pelosi has a kind of facial spasm where she's like, what, like, what's going on?

Yes, it's confusion and frozen. And it's sort of shocked. But I've seen it, which is like, it's like the prince is walking into the nightclub and the bouncer stops and goes, sorry, you gotta wait. And their first reaction is a confusion. Yes.

Like you're telling me to, It's me. It's me, right. The next thing she does is instead of saying, well, we may have lost a lot of jobs during the pandemic, but if you take a look at other major economic countries in Germany and Italy and beyond, we did far worse than they, you know, or something.

Right? She just gets agitated because someone has dared to say something. She does something kind of weird too for a brief second. She looks around like, where am I? Right, right. Where is this? She has a quick sort of double take.

And is this MSNBC or do I land at Fox? Right, exactly. And then she does a quick take and then And then just repeats herself. Then she just repeats it forcefully, which is, Nave, shut up. Now listen to me. And then,

She doesn't. And then goes into the easy one, which is instead of lay out my case, I'm gonna accuse you of being an apologist for Trump, which I'm sure you could produce 7,000 hours of this woman tearing Trump a new asshole throughout the last five years, right? I loved her. Go dial back about five seconds.

I just want to show a picture to Adam of the journalist. She has the greatest physical posture and look on her face. A little bit forward of that. Oh, you can just play it again. That's funny. When she says it, no one will call me an apologist. That's the part I found her just to be like. I like the part where Nancy Pelosi did a kind of double take.

That's fun too. I like that. Actually, I'd seen that part. That's why it's not as compelling. Yeah, you can just play it again. ... office. Donald Trump has the worst record of job loss of any president So we just have to make sure people know that was a global pandemic She was around Record of any president we've had other concerns in our country You want to be an apologist for Donald Trump that that maybe look at her. Oh, yes, I like her

She's like come on. Yeah, well, but she knows she's dealing with an addled old bitch who lost her mind And her problem is is she is on the side of the addled crazy? maniacal knows that they have to Be a little more honest or else people will just run away from this shit. Right and what I've said a million times is you can go well there's her on that side and then there's Jim Jordan on the other side he's got a different opinion or or Tom Cotton or something like that it's like yeah but those guys are fast and articulate and make a fucking point when they talk. They don't just get angry. I mean her, and also what I'm saying is,

I keep telling everyone about this, this thing of this sort of person in power that has no natural enemies in the wilderness. You know, like what about people tearing down statues with no purpose, it's gonna do what they're gonna do. That's her That's that's her just fine. It's just sort of fuck off. You know what I mean? Like first off I'm angry she gets by the way when she gets asked a second question. She's immediately

Put off she just she went on a rant about the free press. She gets it. She's just finished coming out of her fucking mouth I know I know she gets immediately agitated and angered is It's really it's like you'd have the temerity to ask her a question when she's on your show Yes, and she gets really agitated and she never answers the question. She gets dismissive and pissed off I mean her just tearing up the State of the Union and stuff Weird. There's something weird and angry and wrong with her. Right? Yes seems to me. All right one more time Sorry, just cuz it's it's that good. It's that good

Donald Trump has the worst record of job loss of any president So we just have to make sure people too much with the hands President so we just have to make sure people too much with the hands He had the worst record any president we've had other concerns in our country You want to be an apologist crazy eyes now Donald Trump that that may be a glitch for so yeah That's the picture of us. Look at her. Oh, it's so good. Cheshire Cat. No, she also does a thing too,

which all the nutty bitches do on the left who are wrong. Look at her. I'm in love with this woman. I wanna see a show. I am too. She barely did anything, but she loved her. She did almost nothing. She did it on MNCBC.

Nancy Pelosi spoke for the first two minutes unabated and then was just rolling into her next talking point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing you'll notice, it's a lefty thing when they're wrong and it's a feminine lefty wrong thing. Actually, it's a black wrong leftist thing, male and female. When the person starts going, oh, you're wrong and let me tell you why,

they go, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm not done, I'm not done talking. It's like they know something is coming their way that they don't want to hear, and they don't sit back and listen to it for a second. They just keep yelling, they're reclaiming their time. You know what I mean? This is Ocasio-Cortez when she was doing the Rico Act.

What do you mean the Rico act? And you guys well the Rico I'm coming claiming my time. You know because she knows something's real coming. Something is coming her direction. Yeah. All right. You can go to AdamandDrDrew.com see all the pictures and videos that we might have from this show and you can leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com slash Adam and Dr. Drew or click record at the top of the home page. I'm going to be in Salt Lake City this Friday and Saturday at Wise Guys doing standup over there, four shows, come say hi.

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I'm going to stay till Saturday. Oh, all right. Well, then come on out. Dr. Drew will be out for Friday night, right? Yeah. Oh, good. What else am I doing? Okay, good to know.

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