The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1869 Stay Safe
Episode Date: May 23, 2024Today, as Drew joins in from New York, sharing the changes in the big city, Adam then recounts his pursuit for the Guinness World Record, and a Chick-fil A sandwich. Then, they explore the infamous am...usement park, Action Park, Dr. Drew issues some apologies, and Adam explains the atrocities perpetrated by man. Leave us a voicemail: SpeakPipe.com/AdamandDrDrew OR Click the microphone at top of the homepage - AdamandDrDrew.com
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still over there in New York City.
Still here.
You know, by the way,
I get to come through here every once in a while
and see how the city changes.
We were talking last show about COVID,
and COVID changed the city.
They roll up the sidewalks at 10 o'clock now.
I mean, it's hard to find a place to open after 10,
like at 11, it's weird.
Use the spaces to go constantly, but not now.
However, the other thing that was really going on
was the homeless were out on the street in force.
There was a lot of sort of aggression feeling on the street.
It's gone, they've just taken care of business.
And I thought to myself, oh, in New York, they do stuff.
It's too compressed.
There's too many people to F around.
They just gotta take care of it, which they have lately,
which I thought was really kind of interesting.
Well, I'll tell you.
So whenever something gets taken care of,
I have two feelings about it.
One feeling is good, I'm glad they took care of it.
And that the next feeling is,
is why did we live with it for so long
when it could have been taken care of sort of easily.
And I remember a million years ago,
I'd say to Donnie,
I think we can get the
Guinness Book of World Records podcast record.
I think we can get that.
So, get hold of them and let's get that record.
And then a few months would go by and I'd go what's going on with that yeah yeah I haven't you know or I tried or I didn't I said well
we'll do it get hold of them and we'll get that record that'll be helpful it'll be nice
to say we'll get a plaque and then a few months would go by,
I'd go, what happened with that Guinness book?
Ah, yeah, I tried, but I don't know,
there's so many people,
there's so many people in my world
that just operate that way.
I don't know why that's a default setting
for so many people.
And then at some point, there's like a third time,
after about, I don't know, six months, maybe a year,
of asking Donnie to do it, I said,
you know, okay, I don't think it's gonna get done.
So then I got hold of Lynn and Alex,
the publicists at the time, and I said,
hey, I wanna get that Guinness Book of World Records Records and I want you to figure out how to make that happen
and I said, okay and
then
Three days later
We had it or or the plan three days later. The guy was flying out from England and
tabulating and whatever and I I said, Donnie, I talked to you for six months
trying to make this happen.
It never happened.
Then I talked to Lynn and Alex,
and it happened two days later.
And he goes, all they did was make a phone call.
Oh.
Which I always, I'm in love with everyone's answers, right?
You actually love everyone's answers? Yep. Right. But it made me think, I'm in love with everyone's answers, right? Don't you love everyone's answers?
Right.
But it made me think, I don't know.
So on one hand, I'm happy we got
the Guinness Book of World Records.
On the other hand, I'm sad that it took so much,
you know, that it couldn't have just been done.
You know what I mean, like so many conversations, you know.
I'm most surprised at you, and I'll tell you why. Um, and I'm, I'm not surprised at him,
although it's equally vexing is, um, you would all,
you generally are what, uh, your lady friends would call annoying.
Uh, you, he would say, uh, you know, yeah, I did it. You'd go, what,
you'd usually follow with what did you do exactly? Who did you call? What happened? What, what would you do?
And I'm curious why you didn't do that. And I'm curious why.
What do you mean? You're curious why I didn't do it.
You're you're you don't let, um, people be non-specific.
I know, but I still don't know what you're talking about as it pertains to this.
Well, did Donnie explain what he had done? No. Like what exactly he did?
No, he didn't do anything.
Oh, you just knew that he didn't do anything.
You didn't even bother asking what he had done.
See my question?
No, kind of.
I told Lynn and Alex to do it and they did it in a day.
No, I get that.
All right, no, Donnie didn't do anything.
Well, you said they just made a phone call.
No, no, no, it's not about the story.
It's about my, what I'm confused by is how come people
that live and work around you don't know who you are?
Well, that's, because they have no idea who I am
because they're so far up their own head.
They're in their own head so strong that they don't,
you know, I remember when we screwed up Jay Leno in their own head so strong that they don't,
I remember when we screwed up Jay Leno and we didn't order him enough,
we didn't order him any Chick-fil-A,
it's a funny story,
but the guy was supposed to order him the Chick-fil-A.
I said to him, Gabe, what happened?
You ordered the Chick-fil-A,
you didn't get anything for Jay Leno?
And he just sort of looked at me
and he looked out the window and he goes,
it was raining real hard.
And I go, you're on the phone with Chick-fil-A
and we're picking it up.
What's that have to do with the rain?
He's like, I don't know.
I mean, it was a try.
I tried.
I don't know, but I have no idea why people try, but no,
they don't know who I am. They don't know why,
because it never worked once. It's never worked.
It has never worked where they said something and I went,
oh man, it is raining. You're right. It's never worked.
Yeah. That's, but it's interesting to me though.
It does work sometimes. I'll tell you when it works.
It works when the person just fucking lies,
which does happen.
Where they go, I called Chick-fil-A,
they only had two sandwiches left.
In the entire chain.
And I said, you don't have three?
And he said, nope, there's two.
And that's all we got.
Then it will work.
Cause then I'll go, wow,
I didn't know they were out of sandwiches.
So sometimes people just lie to me and that will work. Cause then I'll go, wow, I didn't know they were out of sandwiches. So sometimes people just lie to me and that will work.
Yes, yes.
Anything to get Adam Crowell off your butt.
But raining, that never works.
No, Donnie didn't do, Donnie didn't try anything.
That's the whole point.
He never, he never, he would, you know, I'd go,
what's going on with, what's going on with Kenneth's book?
And he'd go like, oh, okay, I'm working on it or something.
But he wouldn't really, he wasn't doing anything.
Is just as much as he doesn't get who you are,
you know who he is.
So you don't even have to ask, what did you do?
No, no, he didn't do anything.
I look, sometimes then the question could be to me,
why'd you even ask him to do in the first place? I look, some, sometimes then the question could be to me,
why'd you even ask him to do in the first place? You know, he's not going to do it.
Right.
And I'm, I'm perfectly aware of that.
I throw stuff out to people sometimes
just to see them not do it.
And then you, we've talked about it.
If it's not important, I wouldn't do that
with airplane tickets for this weekend.
You know what I mean?
But Guinness Book of World Records, it could wait.
And it's interesting how we've talked about
how your parents were so disappointing
and what they would not do,
that it would just burn you out
to the point that you stop asking.
Yeah, I normally steer clear of people. I don't ask people to do stuff I
know they're not gonna do. Sometimes I ask people to do things if I'm, if there's
a, if we have reason in our relationship that they can do it just so I can kind of gauge them
or see what they're doing. Like what I'm saying is eventually you can
then think to yourself, oh this person's worthless and I don't need them.
And that's a calculation and it's good to know because at some point you'll part
ways or something and you'll go, oh fine.
Why did I need the person that didn't do any of the stuff I asked them to do?
Right.
You tested multiple times.
Right.
How, by the way, did it occur to you about the world's record?
Where did that idea come from?
I don't know why.
Just remember hearing Ricky Gervais, blah, blah, blah, and whatever number he had.
And I remember thinking,
oh, I think our number's better than that number.
And also as a kid, you know,
reading the Guinness book of world records and stuff,
like, you know, just kind of having it be a part
of my childhood, you know.
But it's interesting that not only did it occur to you
because it was something culturally in your life early
but that you
calculated that you could win it is sort of an odd thing to me because
You have to kind of take in the landscape of you know, what the Guinness Book would assess
There I don't think I could do that. I would think oh there must be something out there
That's you know way bigger than me.
No, I mean, not no, but I mean, someone to go,
well, Ricky Gervais had 60 million downloads
in the last quarter or whatever it was.
And then someone go, you had 70 million downloads
in the last quarter.
And then you go, oh, that seems like more than 60.
He's got the record, so I think we could get the record.
And also, there's some value to it.
You can put it on a business card or whatever,
then just say it, okay, fine.
It stood for a long time, too.
It still stands, because there's more popular podcasts,
but someone would have to go contact Guinness.
And then they have a whole crazy set of almost judicial procedures they go through, right?
Yeah, you have to fly the guy out. Like I remember,
I remember talking to one of the guys from NPR, sort of progressive, you know, sort of very progressive NPR.
Well, he was a host.
He was, he did, you know, wait, wait, don't tell me or good morning, New York or something
like that.
And I remember him going, so what do you do?
Just give him 10 bucks
and they give you the record and I go,
no, you have to fly the guy out from England
and put him up in a hotel.
I was like, oh yeah, then give him the 10 bucks.
And I was like, he kept sort of being super dismissive
of it because he didn't like it, you know,
because it wasn't NPR.
And I kept saying, no, you have to fly them out
and put them up.
You have to pay for it.
And what do they do?
What do they kind of look through?
I mean, why do they have to be here?
I, that's a good question.
Maybe it's, they're not,
they may not accept numbers you give them.
Maybe they have to get their own numbers.
Maybe they also have a protocol
where whether it's the longest fingernails or podcasting,
you can't take a picture of it and send it to them.
Maybe it's just an old tradition
where the guy physically comes into town.
Makes sense.
And examines.
Maybe it's a protocol that's really antiquated, but he physically shows up
Mmm, is it always been the same guy? Is there gonna be a handoff at some point? I
one guy who what
Who you said he shows up is I have what you think I've worked there drew. What the fuck do I know?
Show up or a 45 year old guy, you know what I mean? There's one guy. Did an 80-year-old guy show up or a 45-year-old guy?
You know what I mean?
There's one guy, and he'll check the fattest man
in the world, he'll check the podcast,
and he'll check how many pennies you can snatch
off your elbow if you do that quick move.
I don't know that there's one guy,
I don't know who the fuck they have.
They've dispatched somebody.
Dispatched somebody.
There's one guy.
I don't know, except the guy, I'm asking.
There's 700,000 records, Drew. How could there be one guy. I don't know, except the guy, I'm asking. There's 700,000 records, Drew.
How could there be one guy?
That didn't make sense to me.
One old guy.
Yeah.
You sound like Mike now.
I was getting close.
You see where that happened.
That's one old guy.
Yeah, he died and then that's kind of it.
You think there's one guy that makes a big batch of Coca-Cola
every day and puts it in a can for everybody to enjoy.
And like one guy over at Nabisco making those Nilla wafers,
one guy over at Boeing putting them planes together.
One Teeblerelle.
One old guy, one elf in that tree making them Keeblers.
Yeah, all right. What do you got Goop Ball?
All right, Action Park, right?
Yeah.
For people that don't know,
I watch a documentary the way over here
and I had been alerted to this thing by Johnny Knoxville
who did some sort of movie about it.
Yes.
Actually got injured doing the stunts for it.
Yeah.
And it's about this, essentially a water, it was,
it was a ski resort in New Jersey, about an hour from New York city.
It only had snow like two months a year and it was in New Jersey. It wasn't,
you know, the Alps and they needed another way to sort of
get some income from this property.
And so the owner who was a guy, a disgraced wall street investor,
he was sort of kicked out by the sec for various improprieties.
The science he wants to put together the first water park. He, he, the,
the natural landscape of that region had lots of sort of little waterfalls and
creeks and things.
And he wanted to use that to create sort of sort of little waterfalls and creeks and things and he wanted to use that
to create sort of extreme activities, thrill activities for young people and it very quickly
caught on and it's like 1970s 80s and in New Jersey at the time no real liability stuff, no safety reviewers, no regulators.
And so he came into this park where they had a wave pool
where people drowned, I don't wanna say routinely,
but significantly more than once.
He had an alpine sled, sort of a bob sled
in a cement sort of chute
that again had no railings and had these antiquated
sort of scooters you flew down on,
which breaks routinely failed.
And kids were injured all day long apparently on that thing
and finally a kid was killed,
hit his head flying off of that thing.
And this thing went on for years and years.
I bring it up because it's a fascinating story and it's kind of entertaining and they had
a motorsport thing and you could drive speed boats when you were 17 years old.
It was crazy shit.
But they were interviewing in this documentary adults now in their 60s and 50s and 60s who were
kids at that park in the 80s. And the way they thought about risk and the way they thought
about themselves vis-a-vis safety and regulators and people telling them what to do. It reminded me again of the Peter Fonda,
the Peter Fonda sort of speech,
we're gonna do what we wanna do, man.
We're gonna get high, we're gonna go ride.
And it was a lot of discussions
about how they were not supervised by parents,
whatever they wanna do.
Parents were aware this place was dangerous
and they'd sort of, some older kids would typically take them to the park and the parents would sort of
run up to the car before they left and say, just please don't get hurt.
Have a good day, have fun. Here's another three bucks.
But that difference between, you know,
hey man, we understand risk, we're gonna take it,
versus the safe spaces that people
that same age live in
now was really striking to me on one hand and the other,
it made me wonder how much the hysterias of the current day are really set up by
that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So that's a long,
long story, but I'm curious in your thoughts.
Well, first off it's now
reminding me of
many many years ago I
Would have to say
2000
Sorry, I'd have to say maybe
1998
Jimmy and his then wife and me and my girlfriend and other couples, other friends,
was sort of a man show crew, went up to like Bear Mountain or something, local something
during the summer, and they had one of those alpine flumes. You lay on
your back on a mechanics creeper and go blasting down this thing. Yeah. And
everyone was getting fucked up. They're getting a lot of road rash and stuff
falling off, skin in their knees and a lot of elbow skinning going on. And we kept going out and we got to the,
you know, everyone did like three or four,
everyone did a handful of runs on it,
but people were getting so beat up
that they sort of abandoned it.
But we had a crazy director and his name was Tom Stern.
And he's the guy who famously yelled
when my BMW M3 was in full tilt tow behind a tow truck.
He's the guy who ran out and started unlashing the tire
and yelling at me to unlash the other tire
to get in the car.
You know, he's, well, it had a clutch in a six speed
or five speed at the time.
Anyway, he's pretty nuts, Tom is.
He's pretty gonzo.
He's a good director.
He's the guy who directed all the chimps.
All the man shows.
I showed the history of man to somebody this week.
Oh yeah.
He did all the chimp bits.
He was just a real gonzo.
I liked him, but he was a little nuts.
And-
How did he do that?
That was such a great, everybody look up
history of mind man show, history of man, man show.
It's so funny.
Yeah, with the chimps.
Anyway, Tom and I got along great.
Tom was nuts.
Tom's a good director.
And Tom was kind of the king of the hill over there.
And I'd never gone down one of these things before,
but also I'm a daredevil.
I don't have a lot of self-preservation instincts
and I wanted to win.
Now, these things had a break and you would apply the break
and you could stay out of trouble,
but if you didn't ride that break,
you might get into trouble.
And then it just basically came down to me and Tom Stern
at the end and they just said,
you and Tom Stern are the fastest. And they just said, you know, you and Tom Stern are the fastest.
We need to put a stopwatch on it
and see who's the king of the mountain.
But Tom said, I was like, Tom,
no one else knows what they're doing here.
Why are you so fast?
And he said, I grew up in New Jersey.
He's my age.
And I don't remember him saying Action Park, but he said, I grew up in New Jersey, he's my age. Oh. And I don't remember him saying Action Park,
but he said, I grew up in New Jersey,
we had one of these things, not too far away.
And I used to do it all the time when I was 15 or whatever.
And I was like, oh, you have experience on this thing.
But we did the final run,
and I just committed to not touching the brake.
I was like, the only way I'm gonna win this thing
is if I don't touch this break.
People had road rash all over them
from flying over the edge and whatever.
And I was just like, I'm not gonna touch this break.
I'm gonna beat Tom Stern.
I know he's got experience from his youth,
but I'm the king of this mountain.
And I beat him.
Wow.
Yeah, thank you.
Did you, before beating him, had you flown off a few times?
I did have some road rash, I did,
but because I have a kind of a racer's instinct,
I sort of figured out, here's what you gotta do.
It's gonna be a little risky, but you can't touch the brake.
You're not gonna win if you touch the brake.
But you also have to approach it a certain way. And I did.
Approach me each turn a certain way.
Yeah, I somehow gleaned how to how to do it in a shortish period of time.
But but Tom, I think was from New Jersey.
I don't know. Look up Tom Stern, Byron, director of Manchow.
I know East Coast.
I think it was New Jersey.
He would tell me he would go to this place.
I had dinner with Bill Maher a couple nights ago
and he had a friend there and I brought this up.
Bill was from New Jersey, the friend was from New Jersey
and the friend especially was like,
oh yeah, I went to Action Park all the time.
Like everybody knew, so it wasn't,
you don't have to be from the region.
If you're in sort of the greater surrounding area
of New Jersey, you went to Action Park in 1983.
Yeah, and Tom's my age, so it'd be perfect.
But anyway, yeah, risk.
Risk.
Hysteria, hysteria.
Hysteria and risk taking and risk tolerance, right?
Doesn't it seem like you never had.
I guess it says Tom's from New York.
Is that what you wrote?
Okay.
Well, in New York, they went up there too plenty.
It was an hour away.
Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, Tom probably grew up in New York
and went to Action Park.
Yeah, I was leaving a movie theater the other night
and the woman as I was, said, stay safe.
Stay safe.
There's a lot of stay safe going on out there.
And I've never been a fan of safety.
And I've always had a weird,
visceral reaction to the people
that are very much into their own personal safety.
I usually detest those people.
It's not that I have a sort of mild aggravation
toward those people, I really detest those people.
And I always find it weird, especially in males.
You know, when they go, hey, hop in the go-kart.
They go, no, I'm not gonna do that.
And you go, why not?
That's dangerous. I always go, hey, hop in the go-kart. They go, no, I'm not gonna do that. And you go, why not? That's dangerous.
I always go, what, you're just a pussy.
I don't know what it is.
I come from a 100 million miles from that.
Well, you don't know, Drew,
you don't know the extent of me having the daredevil gene,
but I had the daredevil gene in spades,
and I used to do crazy ass fucking stuff,
stupid, stupid, dangerous stuff,
just because I had such a daredevil gene.
But isn't it interesting that we came
from very different worlds,
and yet that quality we both had from that era,
I wasn't the daredevil part, but the, I don't give a shit. Uh, you know,
standing up in the back of a Ranchero, you know what, boy, he goes to my drunk
friend drives 75 miles an hour. I'm 15. Yeah. It's like, what? Yeah.
And a lot of pushback on anybody who attempted to slow us down. Right. Yeah.
Yeah. No, Yeah, yeah.
No, I-
Interesting.
No, listen, I have been saying ad nauseum,
especially ever since COVID, but beyond before that,
that they're this safety, Purell,
kind of everyone wears a helmet, you know, bubble wrap,
society, it is not good.
It is not serving us.
And what happened with COVID is that was just
the first readiness test for people and we failed miserably.
So we had a whole generation of people,
safety, safety, safety, safety,
but we never really put it to the test
because nothing came down the pike.
Then COVID came down the pike and we all failed miserably
because we were all so safety oriented
and the culture had shifted.
We had Garcetti and Barbara Ferrer in Los Angeles,
safety, safety, safety, they failed.
They failed miserably, but the subjects failed miserably.
The sheeple failed miserably
because when we were told to do things
that didn't make sense in the name of safety
that didn't make sense, we all immediately complied
and then we attacked those who pushed back.
So it was a complete and utter failure that was built
on generations of safety coming into it.
Yeah, and I need to make a public admission slash apology.
I'm not sure which this is.
That if you remember back when you and I used to sign
pictures before the advent of cameras, people would sign,
you'd sign tickets and pictures and things,
I would always write, stay safe on that.
Mmm!
Yeah, so I got that wrong.
I got that wrong.
And you'll also, as you've reminded me many times,
my complete determination that the female brain take over
because it's such a better instrument,
that AOC Marjorie Taylor it's such a better instrument,
that AOC Marjorie Taylor Green bitch fest reminded me
that it's not always a great idea.
Did you see that?
Oh yeah, of course.
Listen, I've been screaming about this for a million years.
This isn't a move toward the light.
It just isn't.
But I'm part of the problem.
Well, you listen, to be fair to you,
you're just malleable and scared.
It's not like you thought that that was a better thing.
Nobody ever-
I did, I thought it was a better thing, I did.
No, you're like, anybody who goes,
would you rather have your wife making all the key decisions
or would you like to go, no.
But I based it on the big corpus callosum and the fact that more of the brain is being used.
Now, can I say that?
Can I?
Make some more difficult decisions.
Let me tell you what you based it on. We had wars. We had assassinations, we had ethnic cleansing, historically.
Huns and Greeks and Romans.
We had Huns, not a lot of lady Huns,
but male dominated sport, the hunting.
Okay, every single atrocity was perpetrated by a male.
So you essentially, we did the same thing Every single atrocity was perpetrated by a male.
So you essentially, we did the same thing with politicians and black politicians as we did with females
and female politicians with every corrupt person
from Louisiana was white in the past.
Every politician from Louisiana is corrupt, right?
And they're all white guys, right?
So we go, all right, well, let's get a black person in there
because none of them are corrupt.
Well, we haven't seen it.
Then we get a black person in there
and then they're corrupt, right?
And then we go, you know what?
Let's get a woman in there.
That we never had a woman in there.
No woman has ever been corrupt.
Yeah, no woman's ever been corrupt
because they never got to be a senator.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Or mayor or congressperson or vice president.
Okay, well now let them in, let them do it.
When they do it, then they're corrupt.
Then they go, you know what, let's get a woman of color
because we've never had, you know, it's like saying,
I want a Chihuahua to fly this plane.
I want a Chihuahua to fly this next airplane. The next plane I'm in, I want a Chihuahua to fly this plane. I want a Chihuahua to fly this next airplane.
The next plane I'm in, I want a Chihuahua to fly it.
And you go, why?
And you go, have you ever heard of a Chihuahua crashing a plane?
Just go.
Oh, that's funny.
But that's the thinking.
That was the thinking.
And it's not really bizarre thinking.
All the wars, all the ethnic cleansing, all
the atom bombs and all the missiles and all the pollution, it's all dudes, right? Well,
go ahead, get a woman in there. Let's clean this up. Okay, experiment over. Whether it's
women in power or black women in power or black politics, they don't, they're no better.
They're not even better. I think they're worse. So here we are.
Look, we have a black female vice president. Is she good? No. Okay. Point proven. Now we know.
And no, they're not, and they're not and they're going they're going batshit crazy. And they can
there's something they're not acting very ladylike. That's what's going on.
Acting ladylike. You need to be more ladylike.
That's not becoming of a woman. I'm telling you, we had those things in place. And of
course it was invented to stop them from arguing.
Oh my God.
It's true.
Look it up.
Thank you.
They can't get enough air in their lungs
to properly argue.
Know what I'm saying?
Might have worked.
Sucked it all up.
I saw Gone With The Wind.
There's almost no arguing.
Because she was getting all sucked all the air out of her.
If they were all wearing corsets,
they would have been like, your eyelash.
I gotta lay down.
Well, you look like you're...
I need water.
Short, short quick breaths.
You, how dare you?
I need water.
That's how it would have worked.
We put them in stuff to stop them from fighting, Drew.
Bonnets and corsets and the weird high lace up boots,
huge high heels and stuff.
Now it's all sweatpants, flip-flops,
and they're throwing down.
They've been unleashed.
They've been unleashed.
Unleashed.
We did it.
We did it to them.
They knew in the past.
They knew.
Well, the founding fathers,
they knew how to set up a fucking government from scratch.
You don't think they knew bitches?
Pfft.
They were the wisest men in the world, Drew.
You don't think they knew how their old ladies operated?
You don't think Abe Lincoln had thoughts about his wife?
Boy, he had some difficulty with her.
I was saying.
He had lots of wives.
All right.
John Adams' wife was the one that should have been in there with everybody.
They knew firsthand them bitches be crazy, Drew.
And they acted accordingly.
Like first off, don't let them in the chamber.
They're gonna start fighting.
Well, it's on now.
And they, you let it happen, Drew, not me.
Good times, it was my idea.
All right, Emmy, am I in, am I in Irvine tonight?
I don't see it up on the screen,
but I feel like I, feel like I am.
Yes, you are.
Oh, there you go.
I'll be Brad Williams, Irvine improv tonight.
Maybe a couple of tickets left, I don't know.
And then gonna be in Baltimore at McGooey's joke house
doing stand-up there May 31st through June 1st and Kimmel's Club before that
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