The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1921 The Ultimate Power
Episode Date: September 27, 2024To wrap the week, Adam shares his recent visit to his dad, he recounts Jim's time as a traveling musician, and they remember the record players of yore. Plus, Thomas Sowell, Flip Wilson, and Dr. Drew... picks Adam's brain on the Diddy debauchery. Leave us a voicemail: SpeakPipe.com/AdamandDrDrew OR Click the microphone at top of the homepage, AdamandDrDrew.com Please Support Our Sponsor: This Episode is Sponsored by BetterHelp, BetterHelp.com/AdamandDrew
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Shock abroad.
I had a funny, well, you know,
in the pantheon of my weirdo family and this quiet desperation
or something. I don't know what this is. I find it so counter to... It feels counter
to life, but I was visiting my...
Just very profound by itself. Okay counter to living. Go ahead I was visiting my dad who's now moved into a home in Pasadena
mmm, cuz he's really getting to the end and
I it struck me when I was visiting him in this
Facility, it's it's apartment sort of senior apartment things pretty nice. It seems nice
I was sitting in his room and I said,
you know, I'm doing a show tonight at the Ice House,
and as far as I can tell, I can probably see the Ice House
from your balcony, like it's right here in Pasadena.
Been there for, I looked it up actually, since 1960.
I looked it up actually since 1960.
And my dad has been in the Valley since 1960.
And then- Was that where your stepmom's house was in the Valley?
Well, no, my stepmom didn't have a house in the Valley.
They bought a house together.
I see, I see.
But, you know, you figure it's her house because she did the paperwork and got the loan and,
you know, did whatever, but he worked, you know. But my dad lived in North Hollywood, which is
North Hollywood, which is 20 minutes from the Ice House, but then moved, spent the last 20 years in,
I don't know, I don't know,
Alta Dena, which is like six minutes
from the Ice House, right?
And that club has been there since 1960.
And so I said to my dad, I said,
I'm playing the Ice House
tonight. He said, okay. I said, it's right here. It's right about three blocks from here.
He goes, okay. I go, you ever been to the Ice House? He goes, no. I go, you like standup
comedy, right, dad? And he goes, I love it. But you've never been to a club to watch stand-up,
so no?
And I'm like, what is that?
What is that thing?
I think with my family, maybe I'm just kind of
projecting here, but I don't think they thought they deserved it.
You know, that was, that was like for other people, other people would go do that.
Well, and, and by the way, if you, I always wondered if your dad had like sort of social
phobia, you know what I mean?
Like you could navigate it.
My parents had trouble navigating certain things.
They had to go to a comedy club.
No. parents had trouble navigating certain things. They didn't have to go to a comedy club.
No.
No, listen, my dad, when Thanksgiving was going on, at some point in the middle of,
after the meal, maybe before the pie came out, my dad would stand up and pull his trumpet
out and go, everybody, everyone, over here, over here.
I get that.
Gather around.
That's different, though, than knowing how to walk into a club and order a drink.
I mean, did you ever go to a bar?
No, it's never been, it's going anywhere.
You see?
But it's not a social phobia.
It doesn't go to a bar because that would cost money.
All right, right.
And he wouldn't derive any pleasure out of it.
Same with a, yeah, right, okay.
Derive any pleasure out of it same with a yeah, right. Okay
My dad'll do anything my dad'll do anything
If you pick him up and take him there, he'll he'll do it. Okay, he's just not gonna. It has no social phobias
What would it be like having him in a comedy club? I just wonder how that experience would go
Would he be kind of confused? Would he know what to do? Would he enjoy himself? Yes. Interesting. I think you're going down the wrong
road. No, I'm actually curious. I don't have an opinion. No, you're not curious. You're being an idiot.
All right. All right. Don't forget it. Okay. Listen. My dad wouldn't be confused at a comedy club.
Do you think he'd walk in like Nell from that movie?
Like a feral child? What are the lights and the amplified sound? My dad was in a
fucking big band and toured with a big band and played the fucking Copa when he
was 19. You think he doesn't get confused inside of a club? His job was a touring
musician that only played these rooms.
Why would he get confused?
Why is that part taller than where our chairs are?
That's called a stage, Jim.
That's called a stage.
Why is his voice so loud?
It's hooked up to a microphone and it amplifies it
so other people can hear.
No, my dad wouldn't be confused inside of a nightclub.
He would not know what to do.
He would sit down and order a soda water
and watch the comedian.
I just, I may have identified too strongly.
I can imagine my mother being-
You're grafting your parents' weird on to my dad is just downtrodden
But it wouldn't be no that's exactly right confused. My dad had
Woody Allen Allen records
Yeah, he liked listening to comedy records which are taped in comedy clubs
You know what I mean with live on sides would again, who besides Woody Allen would he listen to?
Well, first of all, you gotta explain to people,
there were these things called comedy albums.
You'd listen to comedians on a record,
and the big ones were Breyer, Carlin, Woody Allen,
even, you know, what's his name,
Mel Brooks and Rob Reiner had comedy albums.
Well, you're leaving out maybe the biggest of them all,
which is Bob Newhart.
Bob Newhart had like platinum selling, you know, comedy albums.
And my dad would have probably been a kind of Bob Newharty.
Now he didn't buy them.
He checked them out from the record from the library.
I think people have to, they were records, records were big money in them days.
They were like four bucks, four 99, sometimes up to eight 99 for a double album.
Yeah.
12 bucks even later on.
And during the inflationary period of the seventies, but you'd go to the library and
check that shit out.
My dad would go to the library and check out a Bob Newhart
album that was warped by the way, because it got left. Yeah, I know they were in good shape.
Well, it got left in the car and it's the San Fernando Valley and he warps them. So it would
be like he's doing the submarine commander, but it's like, and my dad would sit home because it
was free.
I know.
So he liked it.
Hang on.
Hang on.
The record player was like one of those things that flips down with the two speakers on side
of it.
Like, like you, like a little suitcase that flipped open.
Are you speaking of a tote in play, Drew?
I did not know that's what that was called, but I must be speaking of that. I did not.
You knew it. I'm gonna look it up. No, you forgot it. No, no, because I never saw one in person.
You saw commercials for a tote in play. You've seen it 50 times, find me the tote and play commercial
from the 70s which drew a witness,
but he's disavowed now.
His brain got scrambled.
Could be, I'm looking through the...
Here's what it is.
My dad started life as a musician who toured in orchestras.
musician who toured in orchestras. His father was a musician who toured with orchestras. You know, my dad was never any good on the trumpet so he must have
just kind of lost himself in a 30-piece orchestra.
Or maybe just carried the bass line.
Or maybe just carried the bass line. Well listen, you know, you take a song like Sweet Caroline from Diamond, right?
Neil Diamond.
And there's a version of that where the trumpet just goes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bump bump. So the guy on the first chair is going,
da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da.
My dad goes bump bump da da da da da.
He's blown a spit valve out while that guy's doing the whole song, you know?
So maybe there was some of that. I don't, I don't know. I, I,
the only reason I'm confused is
He's never
I've never experienced him playing the trumpet in a really professional and or impressive way
Right, i've seen him play the trumpet 4000 times and it's never really been very good
so I imagine that he just
kind of lost himself in the middle of a big band.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
And it was competent enough to stay up or not get up and hit anyone with his instrument
in the middle of the band.
Is he still with it cognitively, right?
Yeah, he's a little, you know,
he's fading off a little bit, but, so he traveled,
he played the Copa and the lounges and all those cat skills
and, you know, he did that, his dad did that,
he knows what that is.
He knows what the inside of a club looks like, goofy.
He's not confused, he doesn what the inside of a club looks like. He's not confused.
He doesn't want to spend the money,
but ultimately that would be for people
that were enjoying themselves.
Or like living their life, or doing things they wanted to do.
That's not what you get to do.
You sit around and you wait for bad shit to happen.
You don't go out and do stuff.
You know what I mean?
And you have to spend money, which is another thing.
But my mother and my father,
who lived in Los Angeles,
a combined 123 years never went to a comedy club or jazz club or anything.
That kind of crazy?
Oh, it's called Close and Play, not Tote and Play.
Oh, Close and Play. Do you have the commercial?
Yes, we have the commercial.
Okay, before you go, besides Newhart, did he get into any of the more modern comedians of his day? Or I guess Woody Allen would be an expression
of that a little bit. Yeah, he wasn't into the more modern stuff.
Provocative. Yeah, he wasn't a Sam Kenison guy. Right, right. All right, we have the Close and Play commercial.
We can play for you guys.
I'm already laughing.
This is a Close and Play phonograph.
When you close it, it plays.
Open it, it stops.
Close it.
When you open it, it stops. Close it. When you open it, it stops.
Close it.
Close.
Wouldn't you like to have a close and play to play your favorite songs and stirrers?
Close and play photograph by Kenner.
Records not included.
That voice, that voiceover guy did a lot of stuff in that era.
That was an ink. I remember the close and play. I remember. This wasn't what I was talking about,
though, actually. First off, why was Thomas Sowell the spokesperson for close and play?
Thank you, Drew. It's the right age. Yeah, yeah. Okay, listen, Kyle,
Yeah, yeah. Okay, listen, Kyle, I don't know who that guy was from that commercial, but they didn't
just cast a sort of black guy with thick glasses.
They didn't do that in 1967.
He's either the inventor of the shit or he's one of the temptations or something. There's not just, we need a black guy,
like a middle-aged black guy with weird glasses
to push our product.
They would have good-looking women,
blondes do that kind of stuff.
He was definitely way more excited than the kids.
And that wasn't what I was talking about, by the way.
I was talking about something earlier, earlier than that.
I thought it was called a tote in play,
but I may have been inventing the tote.
But I do remember that commercial.
Well, I don't remember that commercial.
I remember a slightly more modern version
of the clothes in play.
The one we saw was very stripped down. That was a pretty bare bones
thing. The one I'm I was used to had a little more pomp and circumstance.
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All right, yeah, the newer version of that commercial. And weirdly, I was looking at a picture of Thomas Sowell
as a young man yesterday.
And he looks like the guy from the close-up.
He looks like him with a narrower face.
His face was narrow when he was younger.
And yeah, he was supposed to be on some like a Reagan
committee or something and got kicked off or some bullshit.
I don't know, I can't remember.
Anyway.
I do love, I love that the left loves strong black leaders
and hates Thomas Sowell.
And here's how you know, and I get it,
they don't like him because he's pragmatic
and says things they don't wanna hear,
versus all they do is talk about racism
being baked into everything.
But the real telling thing about Thomas Sowell is that,
and this is how you know media is corrupt. One of the ways.
One of the ways but it's been going on for a million times. Whenever they do
those black leaders or the list of hundred most influential black people
whatever it is Time magazine puts out the whatever. It's always fucking Beyonce.
It's never Thomasol. Never makes those lists. Why? If you're just Time magazine,
you're just Time magazine, right? You're just calling balls and strikes, right? You have no
agenda. Well, this is what we thought, right? Yeah, One time now I have no, I have no illusions about that anymore.
Yeah. But it's not like Thomas soul made the list 20 years ago either.
No, I know. They always had an agenda. That's my whole point.
Yes. I guess so.
We just didn't know they had the agenda.
Speaking of being right. And now we know.
Right. And speaking of Beyonce,
I have not heard your opinion about the P. Diddy situation.
I wonder if you have any thoughts.
Is that something that you're yet ready to ring in on or what are you thinking?
Well, I don't know because I have zero connection to that world.
It's so foreign to me.
But I don't either.
And so isn't that already kind of weird
that you and I don't know anybody that has ever gone
or been around or any of those parties, right?
Yeah, I mean, it's not, you know, between him and Epstein,
it's just not the circles I run in.
But it seems, I mean, you know, you can kind of deconstruct it.
It seems like he is a person that has many of these issues.
Like substance? Or what are you talking about?
The key, maybe sexual addiction. You know, if there is such a thing as sexual addiction,
I seems to like males and females. He seems to like... There are people that like debauchery,
you know what I mean? And that's their own turn on. Their turn on, people don't really get it. Their
turn on isn't like, well, I like to see women raped with a crucifix.
No, you don't like to see that.
You like debauchery.
You know what I mean?
You like Sodom and Gomorrah type stuff.
You're into debauchery.
Now what debauchery is,
it's maybe a turn-on sexually,
but it's not really the sex that's the turn on. It's the power.
It's the extremeness of it, the intensity.
Well, you want to know if you have a lot of power? No, not the ex- no, you're wrong.
No? Okay, I'm listening.
Not the intensity.
Where was your dad, confused by the indoors?
All right.
He's had enough of me making fun of him, but okay.
But you can't say retarded.
That was true.
You're saying retarded.
This relationship would have ended many, many years ago.
I know, but thank God I'm here acting as guardrails
for your retardism.
I know, it's fine, I take the feedback.
Feedback, I'm making it funny, it's not feedback.
All right, well, it's not constructive.
Well, it is constructive. You might not do it again because of that, because it's not constructive.
Right. All right. So here's the thing. Yeah, there's an extreme part of this, you know,
like up the ante part, but it's really a power part. You know, like, you know, if I know that I...
And now you're saying, like, your grandmother's saying
that rape is not a sexual crime, it's a violent crime.
It's a power and control issue.
All right, listen.
You're telling your grandma.
Listen, when I was working as a schlub
on a construction site and making 11 bucks an hour,
and I walked into a bar on a Saturday night.
I couldn't tap two girls on the shoulder and say,
how about we go back to your hotel room and I watch you guys get it on?
They go fuck right off. Yeah.
But 20 years later, when I was all over MTV,
I could have pulled that off.
So what does that mean?
Thank you.
It means I just have more power than I had.
It's not that I didn't want to watch them lez out
when I was on a construction site.
I could have pulled it off.
Now I can, you know what I mean?
So what is power? Well, the power is
kind of getting people to do stuff they don't really want to do, but getting people to do stuff
they don't want to do sexually? That's the ultimate power, you know what I mean? Like, hey, straight
guy, yeah? Suck that other dude's dick. I'm not gay. I know, but you'd like a record contract, wouldn't you?
That's power, you know what I mean? Getting you to suck a guy's dick who you're already
gonna suck, that ain't power. I need power. And I need, so I'm gonna sit...
You know, it's funny, that whole thing is very mysterious to me. I don't get that at
all. You don't get the power part. I do not.
Why did Gavin Newsom arrest the paddler in the bay?
I know. I understand that. Listen, that's why, and you know,
I was confused. I'm like, what the, what is going on?
I'm confused by it as well. I don't like it.
I don't feel comfortable with it.
Sure. But it's also that somebody would like it or want to do that
is just mind boggling to me.
Oh, well, I hope you're sitting down, but there are many, many people.
I worry that I am such a denial about or something because it does not occur to me. You know
what I mean? It's just like not the world I operate in. And yet I know it's around.
I know it intellectually.
Listen, I'm with you.
It is counter sort of intuitive to me.
I don't like it at all,
but there are people who are attracted to it
the same way we're repelled by it.
I would, you would have to,
if you said during COVID, Adam,
I'll pay you $5,000 for every person you tell
to put their mask up and wear it correctly
as you walk through a shopping mall,
I'd go, I'm not, I will make zero money.
I'm not gonna do that.
I would feel too uncomfortable.
It would just feel weird to me.
Well, everyone else is doing it for free.
Right, well, that's the prison guards.
They're the prison guards, dude.
The good citizens who lived in Venice Beach, California would tell people who are walking
around to do for, they'll do it for free.
So this thing that I wouldn't do for five grand, you guys are doing for free.
What is that?
That's prison guard mentality.
That's, I understand.
It was even more mysterious prior to COVID to me,
how average German could have become that.
Now I get it.
I get who they are.
I get how it happens,
but it's still mysterious to me and confusing
that somebody would go that way.
It's just odd.
It's so odd.
What does it do for them?
Like that's disgusting.
They like the juice and they like the power because they look at it... They don't look at it as a kind
of zero sum. They look at it as one person's holding the whip and the other person's at the
end of the whip, you know? One person is in power and that person is telling the other people what
to do, you know? So do you want wanna be the person that is doing the bidding?
And I'm like, I don't want anybody doing anyone's bidding.
I don't want any of this structure.
I don't want the dynamic of this, you fucking idiots.
I'm not, they're like, well, look,
somebody's gotta tell people what to do,
and I wanna be the person telling people what to do,
not the people out there doing it.
No, no, no.
Those are the people rowing in a Viking ship. Those are slaves. They're like,
we need a Viking ship and we need slaves rowing it and I want to be the guy at the front of it,
cracking the whip. And I'm like, why do we need a Viking ship? We don't need it. Somebody's got to
have a Viking ship. And I'm like, I don't want to be in a Viking ship
I don't want a Viking ship and they're like we have to have one and you pick up an ore
Dude did you um, did you see this article about?
Hold on. I'm not done with Diddy. Oh, sorry
He likes the power so he's got this and he's filmed everything and he's got a bunch of shit on a bunch of people.
And now we're into a conundrum here. We basically had the white version of this with Jeffrey Epstein
and now we have the black version of it with P Diddy. Whole bunch of powerful people, names
people know that are going to have issues if this stuff comes out. So here we are.
Here we are. It's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be very interesting. I don't understand.
But the good news is for these people is we just figured out in the last 10 minutes the FBI
is corrupt. Right. So don't worry, super influential people,
you have friends at the FBI.
Hit up the 51 people who signed the Hunter Biden document.
Call them up and see if they can get involved a little bit.
Maybe help you out a bit.
That's how it works now.
That is how it works.
The close and play actor, you know who that was?
Who?
It's said Flip Wilson, but I don't...
No. No way.
Now they're showing a picture of Red Fox.
Yeah, it's not Red Fox.
You fucking kids are retarded.
They're showing me a picture of Red Fox, one of the biggest comedians of the 60s, 70s.
You guys never heard of Sanford and Son? They're showing a picture of Red Fox and then they're
saying this is Flip Wilson. Flip Wilson is not doing this. There are photographs of Flip Wilson,
many photographs of Flip. Would you type in Flip Wilson?
Does a picture of Red Fox come up?
Oh my God, Google's racist.
It's called black simile, it's racist.
All right, what were you saying, Drew?
Uh, this article about church
and about young males are heading towards that.
It really, it made me think of a million different things,
but one of the, let me see, shoot, one of the articles,
one of the, in the article, one of the pieces of data
was that young men also who didn't have children
were more likely to want to have kids
than the young women of the same age,
which I found fascinating.
It runs contrary to every experience I've ever had. You know what I mean?
Yeah. Here's what we're doing. We're essentially talking women out of being women,
and that's why they all have irritable bowel disease. We're literally trying to talk them
out of being women.
Well, I would say we've done it.
Which is not healthy.
I'd say we've done it here.
Well, we've done a lot of it. Yeah. We've said, listen, don't worry about kids. Don't
worry about setting up a home. Don't worry about keeping a home. Just work real hard.
Just get out there, have a lot of fun and work and focus on your career. And they're
fucking miserable and their guts all fall apart.
Childless young men are listed from the article are likelier than childless young women to say they want to become parents someday by margin of 12
percentage points. That was last year in Pew study. That's pretty interesting.
And the other thing though, but this, this sort of, I don't know,
hit it's something I think we're going to be talking about in the future,
which is, you know, what happens to people when they don't have any kind of spiritual landscape or meaning? They
become dogs that chew on their paws, you know what I mean? Some people can do it, but a lot of people cannot.
You get Greta Thunberg, she's all in on the environment, now she's all in on
Hamas, you just get a bunch of
fucking miserable people running around angry all in on everything. And it's sort of, you know,
religious people or philosophers have sort of warned us about this for throughout the centuries.
Listen, all the answers are in the Ten Commandments. They're all in the Bible.
Everything is just diet and exercise, everyone knows all the answers.
We're fighting, we're fighting with everything that is, and we're gonna lose.
All right, is there a modern day close and play record commercial that we asked for 10
minutes ago?
Does that exist to Emmy and Byron and whoever those people are?
You guys are having a conversation in the next room does there is there a close-and-play
Commercial that we requested a while ago. That is like a more modern version of that and
all we got
From this is that guy is flipped Wilson except for it's not flip Wilson and that other guys not
except for it's not Flip Wilson and the other guys, not Flip Wilson, it's Red Fox, but that don't have any,
we're done with this journey.
I guess we're done with the journey
by just misidentifying the guy,
calling him a more famous black comedian from his era
and then moving on.
Well, Flip's first name was Cleero.
I did learn from this exchange.
I didn't know that at all. That sounds not right.
But I guess that's you.
You question the accuracy of the boys that man,
the computer in the next room. But wait a minute.
You have that name. You would get a nickname. Yeah. Yeah. I've never,
I've never heard him called anything but flip Wilson, but I would,
I believe
Cleero because that's a name that would get swapped out. All right, we don't have a modern day.
Here's my bargain I'd like to make with you guys behind the glass. When I say there's a more modern
day 70s version of that commercial, begin the quest to find it because when you're not I don't know you're not looking for it. Yeah
Begin the quest and we said we still don't know
Still don't know who that how that guy
From close it. Maybe it was Thomas soul
No
They went down the flip Wilson rabbit hole. Why would you think the guy from the commercial
who's clearly not Flip Wilson,
why would you think that was Flip Wilson?
Honestly, the reason why we went down
that Flip Wilson rabbit hole
is because we were checking the comments
because we couldn't find anything on the actor.
And according to someone on the comments,
they're one of the child actors in the commercial.
And they're claiming that that is Flip Wilson.
I did do a search on Google for flip Wilson not red fox and it does look exactly like him
Oh, let's see the commercial again. What well could it?
I think it's just a much younger flip Wilson. Well, okay
What here was the commercial from? All right, I'm gonna try to watch it.
67.
67, I'm gonna try to watch it.
By 74, Flip had a TV show every night,
once a week on network television.
And he's wearing glasses, I never see the glasses.
No, God, that does not look like Flip.
That does not look like Flip Wilson.
Let's hear it. Keep going, let's keep this. This is a close and play phonograph. When you close it, it plays.
Open it, it stops. Close it, it plays. When you open it, it stops. Close it, it plays.
Wouldn't you like to have a close and play to play your favorite songs and stories?
No way, man, no way.
Maybe the little kid is Flip Wilson.
Close and play, photographed by Kenner.
Records not included.
No.
What are you talking, what are you?
I don't know, I wouldn't want this.
What are you smoking the herb over there?
You had a fucking prime time variety show in 1972.
What do you think that guy was, he was four.
You think he had a prime time show at seven and a half?
All right, I'm reaching.
You got long haulers, bro.
Do it, that's for sure.
You better gas up that rig.
Do you guys ever see any footage of Flip Wilson?
What, Flip Wilson?
Show us an opening of the Flip Wilson show with the big flip
and lights behind him. Yeah, just show us 20 seconds of Flip Wilson. That can't be the
same human being. That's Thomas Sowell. I have no idea what that guy's doing in the
commercial. There it is. There's Flip. the They have a different voice too.
Well wait, oh, there's nothing of him talking.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Well, whatever.
Listen, I'm giving up the Flip Wilson ghost, but if somebody listening has got some thoughts,
I'm all ears.
All right.
Tonight, I'll be in Provo at the Dry Bar doing a couple of shows there, then Casper
Wyoming at the Rialto Theater doing stand-up October 4th.
Two shows over there, 7 to 9.30.
Then Nashville over at Zany's October 10th.
Just go to AdamKerrola.com for all the live stuff.
What do you got, Drew?
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So, until next time, I'm Adam Kerrola for Dr. Drew Sand.
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