The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Adam Reminisces On His Racecar Driving Days (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)
Episode Date: September 7, 2024Adam and Dr. Drew lament on days past when he would get behind the wheel and drive racecars. The fellas also discuss bedwetting...yes...bedwetting. ...
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Welcome back to the Adam and Dr. Drew show classics. I'm your host Big Brother Jake
and I got a good one for you today. First up is episode 208 titled Wedding the Bed that
aired January 28th 2015. Adam and Dr. Drew discuss bedwetting, yes bedwetting and Adam
was very passionate on this topic. Listen
to his solution on how to solve this problem.
All right. Well, maybe take a phone call. See how that goes.
I have a letter too if you guys want to...
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All right. This is from Sarah from Long Beach. And also, if you want to write into the way, yeah, give us the letter and then I'll ask Gary questions All right This is from Sarah from Long Beach and also if you want to write into the show just go to adamanddoctordrewshow.com
fill out the form there
Hi, my boyfriend's son's friend is a sleep peer. Hold on a second
Boyfriend's son's friend a sleep peer. Yeah, I'm guessing she lives with her boyfriend. What does a sleep peer mean? Peer?
Peer he pees in a year later. Oh
Peer okay, Jesus. I heard P EER. Well, you think peers all the time. Yeah
Well, anyways, so far the kid is peed on blankets, but thank goodness they're sleeping on the floor
But this past weekend he slept on the couch and the smell wafted at my nostrils after he left
When I was sitting on the couch, what is the best way to broach this?
He either has to wear diapers or his bedding has to be lined
What causes it and is it weird to talk to his parents about it? He's 18
Oh, and I don't know if he should have grown out of it by now. Whoo. All right, is he drinking?
They wonder if he's using a drink at night. Yeah, you can all right
Look wake him up
Fucking conversation a thousand times with a fucking thousand people,
a fucking thousand people including my wife and my son.
First off, could everyone just listen to me?
I sound like a fucking huge douchebag, but look the fuck around everybody.
Look around.
Who do you want to listen to I've had this I was literally standing in the in my son's fucking
Bedroom having this fucking retarded conversation. Yeah, which is this I used to wet the bed
I went to bed late in life. I really don't know
I think I stopped from maybe age, you know
Whatever the appropriate age was six or something and I and then I maybe age, you know, whatever the appropriate age was six or something
And I and then I started again, you know
It was a I don't know I was wedding bed when I was like 11 or 12 or something like that
You did it as a teenager with your adult with the girlfriend shit drew everyone pees the bed once once a while
I have a dream. But anyway, I
Wet the fucking bed and
My mom was,
oh, he needs therapy, this is a repressed thing,
it's anger, it's expressed in the way of urine
and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
My grandfather's an old Jew,
old fucking Hungarian fucking Jew.
And all he knew-
Bless his soul.
Bless his soul.
All this old motherfucker knew is he didn't want me pissing on his sofa.
Right, like this writer-caller.
Yeah.
When we slept at my grandparents' house a lot because my family's a piece of shit.
And slow down.
Your family?
I ran and brought that up.
We spent a lot of nights at my grandparents' house.
They lived nearby.
They cooked.
He cooked. There was food and there was shelter. It was nice. nights at my grandparents house. They lived nearby, they cooked, he cooked,
there was food and there was shelter. It was nice. He'd have the food on the table
for the working grandma. He had a goulash and a color TV, two things that did not exist at the
Corolla house. So we happily slept on his sofa. He did not want me to pee on his sofa.
Shocking. Shocking. So he would tell us a bedtime story as the Hungarians, they're
loquacious people and they tell stories. So your sister was there too. Yeah.
Tell us a bedtime story about 830, 9 o'clock at night. He'd tuck us in and then
he'd go into his den and he'd watch Johnny Carson. And then at about 1230, I
don't know, Carson was like 90 minutes or something back then, 1 o'clock, started at like 1130 and at 1 o'clock, whatever it was, it was bedtime for Grandpa.
Grandpa would walk, as he was leaving the den, he would walk past me in this living
room area on the sofa.
He put a bucket there in advance.
He would wake me up with one of his old Jew sounds. Old Jews have a
bunch of sounds, you know, like for relationships. You shake my shoulder a little bit.
It was one Filipino version of that. There's like a joke like why the Filipino cross the
road because the sprinklers were going off on the other side.
Wow, interesting. So he's honest.
I'm shocking.
Yeah, other cultures have different noises.
I'd get up and I'd just be asleep and he'd hand me the bucket, just a regular mop bucket,
and he'd go, go.
And I was just asleep.
I went to bed at 8.30 or 9 o'clock.
It was 1 a.m.
I'd pull my little underoos down and I would just piss into this bucket.
How old are you there?
Eleven.
Could be eleven, could be twelve, could be nine.
An early adolescence, but how about an eighteen year old?
Whatever, I'd just quiet, I'd just fucking fill the bucket up and then I'd pull the
thing back and I'd just collapse back in bed.
And the next morning I'd wake up like huh, you know what happened?
I look in there was a fucking bucket filled with piss like kick it over
And then it was slid under the coffee table and I was my job to then go dump
I'd go I don't know why I'd go dump it in the yard
I'd go outside and just go to dump it in the in the bushes the carol away
Yeah, the carol away rinse it out with like a hose, you know, and that was my bucket.
So when my son was wetting the bed later than he needed to, my daughter stopped and my son
continued. So I said, look, and I'm telling this to the caller or to the
emailer right now, get a fucking egg timer. Get a kitchen digital timer. Okay,
you can use your fucking phone, you can use whatever you want, but I'm old school.
For $8 you can get a little digital timer. That digital timer just has an
hour and a minute on it. If you go to bed at 10, set it for four hours.
If you go to bed at midnight, set it for four hours. Hold on.
This thing. Don't even need an egg timer anymore.
I know. I'll tell you why I like this device. I'll tell you why I like it.
The phone has a lot of other things connected to it. Like, okay, now your phone's on, okay, now
there's texting going on or it goes off.
So it gets your attention other way.
I want a dedicated thing.
It's the size of a fucking pack, it's the size of a box of matches.
It's the size of a fucking box of matches.
You hit it for four hours.
When it goes off, you get up and you take a piss.
If you get up and your bed is wet
Set it for three hours the night before or the next night set find that time when you need to get up
You need to drain your bladder. Don't turn into big emotional thing. Yeah, don't turn anything else. You need to piss go fucking wake up
Set it up for yourself again start with five hours, see how it works. If it's wet,
go to four hours, see how it works. Get up, completely evacuate your bladder, go back
to bed. It's going to be hard to piss the bed. Now, I had this conversation in my kid's
bedroom with my wife, Olga probably standing there and my son and somewhere around lap
three of the but he doesn't and when it's gonna scare him and what are we gonna I at
a certain point I do what I do with everything where I just go fuck it then just go change
the sheets every morning I'm gonna go get drunk in the other room I've said wasn't there
a conversation about toughening him up? I have given...
There is a problem.
By the way, Drew, do you know anyone who solves problems better than I do?
I'm not trying to sound like a pompous ass right now.
Who has a more...
Even without making an ass...
Just a more sort of approach to problems.
You're a good problem solver. No one could deny that
right, yeah
Why not just listen to the guy solves my
Guy used to wet his bed
No
It was like you get the yeah, but then the thing's gonna scare him and then it it might startle him the first night
But then the second night at a certain point I said just try it for a week try for a week and then it was like
yeah but yeah but yeah but and then I just do what I always do fuck it then change the
sheets.
What a randomly bizarre thing for them to resist isn't it?
Why don't you list your son?
Why don't you just go around?
Because when he is there and the pushback is coming, then they...
No, I know, get him by himself.
Just don't get with the triangulation.
Just fuck it.
Just fucking change the sheet, buy a new mattress.
I'll pay for it.
I'll go to the other room.
I'm going to the other room and get drunk.
I don't...
I don't...
I don't...
I'm not...
Why are you pushing back on me
I'm the guy who fucking built the house. I'm the guy fucking pays for the house
I'm the guy writes the books. Why what's what's with all the pushback? Just fucking try it
I'm the guy used to wet the bed. I solved this problem in 1974
My grandfather solved it get up piss in a bucket, go to bed. A lot of, you know, what if you get up, he gets disoriented, he doesn't know where the bucket is. Leave the
nightlight on, turn the thing, tell him the thing. No, but then what if, okay, okay, first
two nights might be a little rocky, but then that'll just be the rhythm. Get up, take a
piss, shut the timer, go back to, but what if, but, okay, just be the rhythm get up take a piss shut the timer go back to but what if but well, okay
Forget it then just change your fucking sheets
It's a weird way to go through life Drew I don't I
Don't know
Why this a method to actually fix the problem or is or does it just stop you from peeing the bed?
Well, it fixes, well, what's the difference? Here's the deal. Here's the treatment that...
As you get older, like, do you think... Yeah, typically I'll grow up, but that guy's 18,
but he's should see a urologist. He may have a little problem, but here's the way...
Try the bucket first. Right. Here's the way they approach treatment. If he goes to get treatment,
he's going to give him, they're going to give him a hormone that you sniff up your nose called DDAVP that prevents you from making urine during the
night. So it's effectively the same strategy. So as opposed to evacuating what's there,
you just don't produce it. That's the treatment. Isn't that crazy? So Adam's mechanical approach
is the same as the pharmacological approach, and I would dare say I'd rather use the mechanical
approach.
Well, what do we know, Drew? What do we know? What do we know? I'm just
the guy who puts cars in houses.
Welcome back to the Adam and Dr. Drew show classics. Up next is episode 550 titled, Don't Do It In Front Of The Door. I wonder what that means.
That aired on April 3rd, 2017.
Adam talks about the time he drove in a 40-lap race and the feelings he gave him.
Check it out.
All right.
So anyway, thinking about Druski.
And I was out last weekend doing a car race.
That's why I was thinking about you.
Yeah.
I was thinking about just getting yourself
out of your comfort zone and getting it
into a place that's not familiar or comfortable.
Is that what you were doing with the car race?
That's what I was doing, yeah.
But also, in environment, you've never, we're rarely, I would ask yourself to put yourself
into this position, although I don't know if you can,
but one, I can skip rope for half an hour,
watch TMZ and think about jokes for my show
on tomorrow night, by the way, on Spike.
I can do almost everything simultaneously.
Speaking of tomorrow, I think that's the one
your walkthrough with me is gonna be on, right?
I do believe, I do believe.
So there's nothing that I can't do
while doing something else.
It's what I do all day.
It's what everyone does all day.
But I notice with this car race,
there's nothing to do but live in your moment.
And you're so surrounded by sound and motion and all sorts of input coming through your hands and
your butt and your foot and as the car starts to slip and slide and it
starts to slide the tires get tired in the race car starts to drift out and
you're trying to put in like steering input and throttle all these little
micro little movements and decisions and this track of that was so fast that
every decision had to be made just split second
by split second by split second.
And you never, never get to go anywhere mentally.
And this was a 40 lap race and it was an hour and a half long.
It's the longest I've been in the car and I never was able to think about anything.
Did that make it seem like an eternity or a millisecond?
It was this thing. I had a radio. I had this thing in the driver's meeting. It's the thing
I always do and then the thing that never happens which is you have a drivers meeting
before the race and they explain a lot of rules and what's gonna happen and
what happens when the safety car comes out and what happens full course yellow
or just single yellow or double yellow for whatever whatever if you get black
flag the blah blah blah blah blah and then I do what I always do which is I
raise my hand and I go it's a 40 40 lap race. Oh, there's a picture of me napping
almost at the driver's meeting.
So it's a 40 lap race.
And so what I do is I say, I have a question.
Yes.
I never have any idea where I am in these races
and it makes a difference to me.
If I'm gonna pass somebody I'm gonna wait
Usually I hope they're gonna make a mistake, but also I'll wait until about the end
Two laps maybe three laps left and I'll make a move
But I don't want to do it with a bunch of laps left But I also realize in a 40 lap lap race with cautions and yellow flags of I will not know where we're at
I won't know if we're halfway in I won't know if we're halfway in.
I won't know if we're 25 laps in.
The first thing you lose is your ability
to keep track of things like that.
I imagine.
So I will not know.
So I raise my hand and I say, is there any signal?
Like, can you give us a 10 laps to go?
Or halfway through?
Or something, so I can just have my mind sort of ticking and they said well we don't normally do it what we give is the
white flag white flag means one more great that's not helpful but what would
be helpful is like hey we're halfway through and they said what we usually do
it's not really protocol but what we normally do is we'll give like a half, like the guy will show like a half thing, you know, the starter guy, some of the corner guys will be like half, half, show you like a half move.
That's cool.
Yeah, it seems cool, except for then I walked down the meeting and I thought, what are the chances they're going to do that?
Right, what if they don't and then I thought I bet they're not gonna do it
and then I thought now I'll be on lap 33 and I'll go I haven't seen half yet so
we're not we're not to lap 20 yet yeah do you immediately ignored it can you
do you have a pit is there a pit yeah can you have your pit do it kind of
thing I for the first time ever was wearing a radio. Oh. Ah.
But it's so loud.
Oh, yeah.
Inside the car that you cannot hear what the guy's saying.
Why have it?
Well, honestly, why?
Because during the, if you get a yellow, if there's an accident or somebody goes off and
there's a yellow, everyone will slow down.
And when you slow down.
Then you can hear it. The revs of the engine slow down and he can
communicate and he was able to tell me 15 laps left after we on a yellow on a
full course and they didn't they didn't do the half thing if we ever care to
look at the tape we could look at the tape and you could see it. But anyway, I'll show you. I think Gary's got a lap of the track. I'll
show you a lap of the track whenever he finds it. We can take a call.
I think we'll find it then later.
Or did you find it? All right.
Oh, wow.
You can find it.
Oh my God. Where is it?
Willow Springs.
Where is that? It's in Willow Springs. Where is that?
Uh, it's in the desert.
Oh shit, I can see that.
Uh, Palmdale. It's...
Palmdale, okay, got it.
Oh my god.
Now... Now, you know I'm a car enthusiast, right? Yeah.
And you know I like fast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But this is what makes a ball game.
That experience looks absolutely unpleasant to me.
Oh, I can't have it now.
Like, I would not want to do that for a million years.
I admire that you do it. Oh man.
Fantastic.
Trying to pass a guy.
I don't want to get passed.
Are they supposed to, is there a protocol
when you try to pass they're supposed to like kind of...
Not really. So this is me in third but when it goes down that back straight you can just let it run for a second Gary but turn it up but when you see when you hear now you can imagine trying to
listen when you go down this back straight.
So it'll, right now you're trying not to slide over it.
Right here is where it opens up. There you go. So you gotta do that for 40 laps and you can't think about anything.
That's crazy.
You can't look around.
You can't like notice anything or do anything.
No, I did that.
That to me sounds like the most appealing part about it.
The focus you have to maintain and then the intensity of the whole experience.
That sounds cool.
It's a lot of sweat. But yeah, but the sound the sweat the actual all the prep and shit you had
to go through. Oh my god. I didn't have to go through that much prep though.
Just learning how to do that and then suiting up and oh yeah yeah you gotta there is a thing though
like getting in and out of the car and stuff like that,
where you just, you do it a few times.
These guys time you to get out of the car.
The official has to come time you for fires.
Wow.
You have to get all buckled in six ways,
and helmet, and Hans device,
your head and neck restraint device,
and everything window net up, door shut,
everything completely buttoned up,
and then they give you 20 seconds to get out of car
And it's not my car. So I you're not sure where all the latches and snaps
You mean it's just everyone gets out of the same car. No, you got to get out of your car
You're gonna race and whose car was this Burton Racing? Oh, there's a there were cut trans am there. They's a trans am there there a trans am core wow was
everyone driving the same car essentially or no I had Corvettes ahead
of me but there were Mustangs and and and and everything else so I see a
Viper or something in the race yeah wasn't a Viper there was I don't know if
we'll find a picture it looks like a
Viper it's another Corvette there was like a I think there was a Lamborghini
Gallardo I think that was in there there's been lots of fast fun crazy
crazy stuff it was really the top of the race car food chain or at least the road
racing food chain it It was intense.
Now it did not look like a young group of pilots.
No, there's a couple of younger guys in there, but they're mostly older dudes.
Whatever you need to do those cars, you're better at 50 than you are at 20.
Is it that?
Also you've got to work your way into that car.
I was going to say, is it that or is there a high cost to all this?
It's expensive.
It's very expensive, but the drivers aren't paying for it oftentimes.
So there's that there.
We'll be right back with more of the Adam and Dr. Drew show classics.
Last up today, we go to episode 800 titled Music Makes Me Angry and that aired on April
6th, 2018.
Adam and Dr. Drew talk about the term gaslighting and the history behind it.
They also took calls.
Enlighten us, gentlemen.
Did we talk about the term gaslighting? I know what the term means. They also took calls. In Latin this gentleman.
Did we talk about the term gaslighting?
I know what the term means.
That's the one that my daughter throws around all the time.
And if you're in a college campus, every time you argue with somebody, they just go, why
you gaslighting me?
That's their go to.
That is from a film from the 30s or something.
Yes it is.
And it's weird that it made a comeback because gaslighting.
It's a convenient way to throw people off
because you're not really sure what they're saying.
Gaslighting was a movie about someone
who was trying to make the other person feel crazy.
Exactly.
I guess it's called The Gaslight.
Yes, it's called The Gaslight.
But it must have been from the 30s or 40s.
Yes, it was from the 30s, yeah.
Okay.
And it didn't formally exist in the 90s.
I mean, I knew it because I was an improv guy.
Yeah.
I hung around with smart guys who watched a lot of movies.
But the term, if I would say to anybody, I'm gaslighting you or you're gaslighting me,
that wouldn't have made sense to anyone.
Now any argument is gaslighting.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
It's either, there's two moves. Gaslighting,
which again confuses your opponent, makes them try to adjust as opposed to
going stop, I'm not, this is an argument, here's my logic. Or... Karen Valentine is being
gaslit by her? Hold on, Gary just put up a definition. What's it say? Karen
Valentine... Manipulating someone by psychological means. Karen Valentine. That's me. Wait, hold on.
Where do you see Karen Valentine? Oh, yeah. In the first episode, Karen Valentine is being
gaslighted by her husband. Psychological means questioning their own sanity.
But that's a TV movie from the 70s. The film is from the 30s.
They just use random things as an example of how it would be used in a sentence. Yeah.
I know what a random thing.
I know.
Oh, look at this. Look at that. I was using the turn of the century. Turn of the century
that we were looking at a graph of the frequency of use.
It must have spiked when we had the monkeys farting into the flame on the man show right? Yeah lighting of the gas
Oh, yeah, literally guess what? So what's going on?
That there's two moves down which is your gas lighting me which is immediately sets you kind of makes you confused if you're trying to
Have a discussion with somebody or the other is they they project their own aggression onto you
You're being aggressive. You're being sex. Oh, yeah, that's been around
for a while. Yeah, you're this, you're that, which is actually their disavowed parts of
themselves that they're putting on you. It's confusing when you're the recipient of this
stuff. Again, I blame you. Why? Because a lot of this stuff we're talking about, if you've argued with a woman enough,
is kind of female behavior.
It's less male and more female.
I have arguments with women.
I've had arguments with men, and they argue in different ways.
The quest for us to become women has caused a lot of this.
And I blame Drew because Drew always looked at it as the light, the path.
And I always said to him, I don't think it's the path.
I think there are plenty of good qualities men have and plenty of good qualities women
have and then plenty of bad qualities they both have.
There is no one way that it's it's called a balance my friend no I
there's a balance there is a balance that is created yeah by my mentality and
there's a balance is created by my wife's mentality and if we just ran our
house and raise our kids by swinging all the way
over to her side and just sort of going, hey, this is the New World Order. We think like
you think and that's how we run our household. That would not be good. And conversely, if
we swung it over to my way, it'd be utopia. I know you thought, let's take some phone
calls. I know you thought I was going a different direction. No, if we swung it over to my way, it would be better.
But it wouldn't be good.
What's good is the balance.
That's the balance.
Now.
These wouldn't be good for your kids.
That's right.
Now, it'd be good for the neighborhood.
No.
The balance is what we're striving for.
And if you are going to decide that there is no, you know, everything's
fluid and everything's, there is no man, there's no female, and if you've decided, like we've
decided, that the enlightened path and the answer is toward the female side, and we've gone hard
down that road over the last few years, and we're going even harder down that road over the last few years and we're going even harder down that
road and faster down that road, then you are going to get these types of discussions, these
types of thoughts.
What types?
The gaslighting?
Just the discussions we're having now that I felt threatened, he felt threatened, nobody
should ever, like these sort of insane proclamations, you know, if just one child is ever threatened, you know, you turn on the news and it's like,
a child should not feel unsafe in their classroom. No child deserves to get shot at school.
No parent wakes up and says, I hope my son or daughter gets shot on a school camp.
Nobody wishes that for their children and by you suggest, you know, it's like alright this is this is insane
This is ramblings of an insane
Purse of people right? I don't even do you understand
That every one of these debates I now hear on TV and the internet has the one side going
Of course I'm against school shootings. You know, of course I don't hate Hispanic people or I'm not prejudiced against.
Of course I think everyone is equal.
Has like stating things that are insane, obvious.
And as a matter of fact, I would like it
if the people that did that would not dignify it
with an answer all the time when they're being accused
of whatever it is.
These are non, this is not critical thinking.
That's the other person gaslighting you.
They're the one actually doing the gaslighting
where you have to go, wait a minute, am I racist? No, wait a minute, I'm not, I'm not, am I racist?
No, wait a minute, I'm not racist.
Then you have to address it.
That's gaslighting.
Right.
So, sorry, do you have anything to say about that?
About the gaslighting?
No, no, it was just that those strategies have become so commonplace now.
And they're so-
Are they strategies?
Yeah.
And they're not, they're so strategies. Yeah. And they're not they're not discourse.
They're not logical. They're not discussive. You know, there's nothing happening except
people acting out emotionally. It's really an acting out behavior. Okay. You ready to
do this? Kyle 22 Chicago Kyle. Hey, what's up, Adam? What's going on a fan forever? Thank you. been a fan forever.
I've been trying to get ahold of someone all day today. So I was
listening to the serious accent. I know you're familiar with
barstool. I know you had a few people on in the past. And they
were talking, they recently bought this boxing league. It's
called rough and rowdy. And it's, it's the funniest thing
ever. There's they have just regular people that come it's the funniest thing ever. They have just regular
people that come. It started with just like these hillbillies in West Virginia. And they
hype up these fights and there is, it's becoming huge. There were 70,000 pay-per-view buys
the last time and they just got Bill Burr, Bill Burr saw it and it was a huge fan of
it. And they just got him to announce alongside. It's with the Barstow president and your name was just dropped randomly today on
the accent saying that we need to get cool on here.
You'd be electric. And then I don't even think they know they had a boxing
background, but I kind of just wanted to get your opinion on.
Bill Burr would know that, wouldn't he?
I would assume that they must have some idea about boxing background.
Otherwise my name may not have been idea about boxing background, otherwise my name
may not have been dropped, but look, I'm happy it was dropped.
Yeah, you know, it's funny, not directly here, but I said, well, we started the show talking
about how guys were turning into chicks, and I said, each time 10 guys turn into a chick,
the 11th one becomes a cage fighter.
The reason this stuff is on the
rise is because we're stuffing, we're not letting boys be boys anymore and it's
breaking out, it's going hard the other way, right? We don't let my son can't
play football at his school, you know what I mean? They're taking, again, this
notion of, hey we got a bunch of chicks and we're running the show and we don't
like football because we find it aggressive and we know there's all the things we don't like about
it from a feminine standpoint so hey boys be miserable because we've doomed we've deemed
this not good right but if there's a bunch of dudes who are at the school then they would
deem it as good it's it's it's unfair and it's kind of torture because it's kids really want to get out and get
after.
My son told me much like you and me that football is one of the most important life experiences
going from being a sort of a schlubby freshman to anchoring an offensive line as a senior.
It's something about that is transformative.
It's not just overcoming the skill.
It's putting yourself in harm's way every play on behalf of your peers right?
That's a middle-aged house frowze deemed it
She doesn't like she doesn't like the aggression
Yeah, so she's gonna get rid of it and because they're in charge and drew because you said their path was the answer then we're all
Supposed to just get in line
How can I make that up? What should I do to make pennants? I need a blow job right now
After the show
Yeah, yeah, I'll look you gotta have one of your lackeys
you gotta have one of your lackeys look up look up all this though and then you got to get in touch with them because
I've listened to all the pockets you guys have very very similar humor, and I think it would be incredible
You'd be exposure wise and money wise. I think it'd be worth. Thanks Kyle
So you gotta at least look into it. I shall look into rough and rowdy
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