The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - BEST OF: #999 I Like Listening to Me
Episode Date: August 18, 2023Adam and Dr. Drew open the show discussing practical ways that we may be able to use experts from the business world to try and fix the problems that face our government institutions. Adam also tells ...Drew about the practical metaphor that he's examined in his personal life that he's found himself able to apply to grander societal problems. As the show wraps up they speak to a caller who believes that the Zoloft he's taking is producing false positives for benzos on his drug test. Please Support Our Sponsors: Babbel.com/ADS
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This is Dr. Drew.
He's over there.
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Hey, Drew.
Hey, buddy.
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I was, I don't know why, I just looked down at my notice, I saw Glenn Close, and I was laughing about her tearful thing.
Yeah, we talked about that a couple weeks ago.
We talked about that a couple weeks ago.
But I started to look into her life.
I'm like, Mom was like a socialite, and her dad was rich, and everyone was rich, and everyone lived a life of white privilege.
Yeah, well, the mom, though, had to subjugate herself to the dad.
She wasn't the one making the money.
Okay.
People have different desires in life, different goals.
How dare you?
It's all socially constructed.
It is a weird thing that we've decided that everybody wants to be a captain of industry or run a fortune 500
company or have a chain of pizzerias or something like i would lynette much prefers being a mom to
coming over here and cleaning out the fridge much prefers so that's she tends to do more of that and less of the cleaning out of the fridge because she much prefers being a mom to doing that.
Why should we begrudge her that or try to talk her out of that or take it away from her?
Take it away because it's all socially constructed.
It's the only reason she can't see anything else.
She's been reared by society, Adam, and then under your white privilege thumb the whole way.
See?
Mm-hmm.
Trying to figure out how that works.
But we cannot let people just do what they'd like to do or what they tend to do.
Because they're boxed in then.
Boxed into their own life?
Yeah, because that's the only thing they can imagine doing.
But they're not living the life they're supposed to live.
I have interesting discussions about my white privilege online with people,
which is always – there is no winning that argument.
I'll tell you about uh i want to
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i've never really been the recipient of that they basically treat it like gamma radiation that
no they were like radon gas that comes from the floor they just go oh you don't know it
They were like radon gas that comes from the floor.
They just go, oh, you don't know it.
You've been in houses.
You've been exposed.
I go, I don't know.
And it's funny because the example I always use is they go, I go, look, I tried to be a fireman and I couldn't be a fireman because I was a white guy.
They didn't want any white people.
So I was discriminated against.
And they go, oh, you bring up this one instance. But what about all the other instances?
Oh, you mean the next day when I got a cruise ship and they made me captain and they sent over all the dancing girls?
Or the next day when I picked up garbage on the construction site?
What do you mean after that?
Nothing happened after that.
I went from sort of being judged by my skin color by the LA fire department in a negative way to back up to
zero on a construction site picking up garbage what and then there's the well what about all
the stuff you don't know about and it's like well it's really hard to argue away invisible things.
To say, you're in good health because you're blessed.
And I go, oh, okay.
But I don't feel like I'm blessed.
Well, you don't know it.
Think about people who died of cancer in their 20s.
Like, okay.
Think about people who lived to 150 and, like, change smoke.
Like, I don't know how – I can't explain invisibleness.
I can say that I was never let off from a ticket because the guy walked around the window and discovered I was white.
I can say that I've had multiple motorcycles towed out from under me as well
arrested and things of that nature
now I've never been shot by a cop
but I've never threatened a cop either
I've had multiple jobs that were horrible
and didn't seem to advance me much
and I've had crappy apartments people didn't want to advance me much. I've had crappy apartments.
People didn't want to rent me the apartments
because my credit wasn't good enough
and multiple roommates.
And most of the stuff I did was kind of like
three guys rent a house in La Crescenta.
Yeah, three guys rent a house in La Crescenta.
One roommate moves out.
You move in. We don't tell the landlord kind of thing.
When I wanted to be a boxing coach, I told the guy I wanted to be a boxing coach, and he said no.
So I said, let me fix stuff.
And he let me fix stuff.
And he let me be a boxing coach. I don't know where the invisible hand of the – Now, if you ask me and I really just try to distill it down to where were those moments,
I can't really find any.
I find quite the opposite.
I found a lot of non-help from people.
But maybe I got laid because I'm white.
I don't know.
Maybe I nailed some blonde chick who wouldn't be with a black fella, but she would be with me.
That could be possible.
That's white privilege.
That's white cock privilege right there.
The best of all the privileges.
The WCP, baby.
I used to have to ask yourself, you know, when you hung out at K-Rock that day, if you'd
been an African-American guy sitting there all day waiting for Jimmy, would they have
treated you differently?
Well, considering I was trying to get a job as a boxing coach, and since many of the guys
I work with as boxing coaches
were African-American or Latino or whatever,
the guy I had cover my class that day was black,
I don't think that part would have slowed me down
since, again, there were more people.
As a matter of fact,
the African-American part of the boxing coach would
probably lead you to a little more credibility in the boxing department than the guy looked like he
had a jufro now after that i don't know could i've made friends with jimmy would jimmy have gone
jimmy has no black friends to bat for me but he loves black people
well Jimmy's best friend
growing up was
Cleto Escobedo
the Mexican guy
lived across the street
so I feel like he
was pretty multicultural
and he's always helped
he helped
you know Cleto's his band leader now
so
I feel like he's open to people
from different
parts of the
parts of the world
and helping them but he's afraid of people that are different than him he's open to people from different parts of the world and helping them.
He's afraid of people that are different than him.
He's afraid of people that are different, as all white people are.
Scared of people that are different than him.
Yeah, scared.
Single-handedly, the most condescending comment any politician...
It wasn't a politician.
That was from the Golden Globes.
Oh, yeah.
But it's echoed from the Golden Globes, from politicians and back.
And it's like a venereal disease.
It's like crabs.
Like fucking junkie roommates trading crabs.
It's like, I don't know what that means.
It's wildly insulting to everybody at all times.
But, yeah, K-Rock.
Now, I don't know.
I don't know what K-Rock would have thought of a black.
I suspect they may have been looking for black hair staff.
It always helps when you're a big publicly traded company
and you're looking to round things out to have some diversity over there.
When I left the Loveline, they said, we want young and we want Hispanic.
Like, that's who's going to replace you.
They didn't say blonde and old.
They said young and Hispanic.
Not African American, but not white.
So once again, it's invisible, so no one ever knows. But I think if you comb through the wreckage of my life and you just kind of go year by year,
I don't think you're going to find it was a strong force.
The force, the white privilege force, not strong with this one.
So I was also never in, I wasn really in an environment where where it was neither here
nor there my best paying construction job by far of all time was i was just making 11 bucks an hour
maybe 12 bucks an hour and this earthquake rehab for the city job came around.
And because it was a EEOC city, whatever, whatever it was, it was all of a sudden it was 1850 an hour, which was a massive bump.
Like for me, that was a huge deal.
And that job, because it was a city job, had to have, you know, X amount of women, X amount of blacks, X amount of Hispanics.
Every job site needed one of everybody.
So I made it onto the crew, but it wasn't nothing to do with my white skin.
They were actively looking for people of color, different origin,
or even gender to be a part of it because
it was a city, prevailing wage city thing, and they had to round out the roster.
That was my best job thus far, but that, again, colored skin didn't factor in, sadly.
Now my dad has been riding a crest of white success and privilege
since he was born in South Philly.
Now, for him...
He slid by because of white privilege.
And my mom has never had a...
She never had a bad day
because of her white privilege.
That's absolutely correct.
But it did not trickle over to me.
No, it doesn't seem to.
My last conversation with my dad, he said,
you think you could buy me a trumpet?
Is that a recent conversation?
Semi-recent.
Yeah, a few weeks.
I was thinking.
What'd you say?
Here's your white privilege.
What am I going to buy you a flugelhorn for?
You're white.
Here's your white privilege card.
That's right.
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So I interviewed a lady on the radio who's part of a group.
She's an attorney.
She's an African-American woman and an economist from Cornell.
And this is a bunch of really high-powered thinkers.
And they put together a book called Citizen Capitalism.
Sitcap.org is their website.
If you want to check it out.
And their idea was something akin to what was going on in the Renaissance era, which was – I believe that the reason the Renaissance in Florence happened is because they came
up with this thing called La Montagna where everybody put in a little bit to this one
pool of money and it grew and the Medici sort of managed it.
And it was this sort of social welfare pool.
And these women that set this book together were saying that – this is back to this sort of billionaire contribution idea that I was advocating earlier in the week that if the companies that say lived in California, these multibillion-dollar, multi-international companies, put in a small sum of money into these funds, they could really have something that we could all apply to other than transferring income.
income. So it's a way of all benefiting, all having skin in the game,
all having access to essentially
universal income without
money being taken from one person
and given to another. Does that make sense?
Yeah, but I'm still not down
with it. I would definitely
here's what I would do.
I would go
here's what we took
our money and what we did.
These organizations.
Yes.
We went and found the guy who's second in command at Southwest Airlines.
And we said to that guy, what do you make a year?
And he said, I make $7 million a year.
Good.
We'll give you $10 million a year.
Go fix the L.A. school system.
Go take whatever you know about how to run a business and how to get things done.
And it's not all just make money, obviously.
People have to come back.
People have to be satisfied.
Things got to run on time.
If something goes wrong with your maintenance schedule, people are going to die.
Something goes wrong with your maintenance schedule, people are going to die.
You, my friend, second in command of Southwest Airlines, you've been there 19 years.
How many planes did you have when you started?
140.
How many do you have now?
Over 3,000.
Or whatever it is.
You.
Stop what you're doing.
Go fix it.
Here's the amount of money.
We've all just anteed up.
We're going to match your Southwest Airline thing plus 10%. Go fix this.
Now, Gavin Newsom would never let him fix it because he would then suggest vouchers or school choice.
And then Gavin Newsom, because he's corrupt and bought and paid for by the unions,
would explain that that hurts kids and then go back to hurting kids.
So you'd have to deal with that aspect of it as long as we're doing the fantasy side of it.
We'd have to figure out the sort of governmental side. But I would love to take that guy and put him in charge of that.
Yep.
And go, all right, pretend this is just a big,
pretend LA Unified School District is just a big fucking airline you guys just bought.
And it's fucking hemorrhaging money and you're losing pilots and you're you're you're
low rated in terms of customer service and everything you're fucking at the bottom of the
barrel now go at it treat it like a giant airline go fix it and for all you who go hey man the one's
an airline and the other fuck you this guy do a thousand times better job you get somebody like that tell them that's it tell them it's an asset tell them it's an airline and the other, fuck you. This guy do a thousand times better job. You get somebody like that.
Tell him that's it.
Tell him it's an asset.
Tell him it's an airline.
You got to fucking fix it.
I'll give you three years to turn it around.
They'd fucking fix it.
They'd fix it a fuck of a lot better than what it is now.
One thousand percent.
There's no doubt in my mind.
How could it go any other way? I would gladly be down with the notion of these guys getting fucking headhunters,
being headhunters, professional.
They would stake these guys and just go, for us, it's dropping the bucket.
Pay this guy's salary for three years.
Stop what you're doing at Southwest.
Do it here.
By the way, I don't care what your political affiliation is.
All we want is results.
You don't ask what the political affiliation is of passengers on your airplane or upper management or anything because you shouldn't give a shit.
Shouldn't give a shit about this.
Don't worry about anything.
I think generally.
Put your team together and go fix it.
Generally, the state government ought to be like that.
Yes.
Should be pragmatic.
It'd be nice.
Gavin Newsom
has snapped into action.
He's going to...
He's turned the first lady
into the first partner.
Person.
First partner.
Person.
First person.
She's the first person?
I think she's the first person.
I think so.
Yeah. All right.
He couldn't be prouder.
Really?
Okay.
A little bit of traffic talk on the side
or just mostly talk about his second
wife and what we're going to...
Traffic? First partner.
First partner. You were right.
Would you stop interrupting me with your wrongly
hoods? Traffic wrongly hoods?
Traffic, wrongly hoods.
I like that.
Well, Drew, why do you think it's something different than what I said?
Because I literally thought it was a heard person.
But you never heard person.
I got it wrong.
Why so quickly?
Because I'm wrong. It's possible to be wrong and to think you heard something I didn't hear.
Well, I really want you to drill down on that, though.
Partner sounded kind of weird to me, and I thought to myself,
if I'd heard partner, I would have thought that, but I heard person.
So I just said person.
That's all.
But the word partner was said.
And it was correct.
Is there a mystery here?
The mystery is your wiring.
You have to think about that.
The wiring that, again, the word, the thinking that I would have heard,
because first partner is so peculiar, that I would have made note of that.
And what I thought I heard was first person because that made more sense to me,
and I thought I'd heard that.
Calling your partner, partner makes more sense in the context we're talking about. It would have struck my
ear, I would have thought, and it didn't.
And, you know, it didn't.
So, I got it wrong.
It's possible to be wrong.
With zeal.
Because I thought
for sure the partner thing would have
struck me. It's such a weird construct.
Look, I'm here to shit on your points.
Yes.
First person sounds much weirder than first partner.
First partner doesn't make sense to me.
Let's ask the Cashew Gallery.
I've upgraded them.
Because I still don't really quite – what I'm thinking about –
Here's the deal.
First lady does not necessarily imply first wife.
First partner to me implies first wife.
First lady, if you're going to make that gender neutral, to me goes first person. That's all. But think about if you were in San Francisco.
A gay man would not refer to his
partner as his person. It would be his partner. So he's
trying to be inclusive of all sexualities, I think, is how I read it.
But see, I thought it differently. I saw it as trying to go gender neutral.
But no one has ever called their significant other a person.
They call them a partner.
All right, everyone knows I'm right.
I agree with that.
I'm having trouble saying what you're saying because –
Nobody knows what you're saying.
In a relationship –
So what would – if I were to say my wife and were to try to make that completely neutral, not talk about gender nor both gender and role.
But you are trying to convey relationship status with this.
I didn't get that.
Because the first lady –
Well, it is his wife, so we established that they're in a relationship.
Gary, let's just agree on this.
Yeah.
Drew, dumbest smart guy around.
Me, smartest dumb guy around.
That's why we work so well together.
Okay.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
You do understand that is our,
I am the smartest dumb guy
and Drew is the dumbest smart guy.
Yeah.
Okay.
Don't take care of business.
No, no, you've got it.
Oh, I do.
All right.
Well, let me tell you about LifeLock.
Stolen identity.
Drew, if they stole your identity,
then you might just be the dumbest dumb guy around.
If they had no identity, I'd be the non-personist guy.
The person non-smart.
All right.
So who, Drew?
You. My new muse in life is thinking about, again, not the husband that leaves the house in the ostrich purple cowboy boots,
but the wife who walks and strides in unison with him out to the SUV and they go to the restaurant.
So the people that don't speak up.
Why is she not saying anything about this guy's boots?
And I get the point where Gavin Newsom is a sociopath and gets to just say whatever he wants to say.
Why are people, whatever side of the aisle you're on, formulate a something about something that is similar to your observations about 50 years we'll all be chicks.
So I'm suggesting whatever this is that's coming to your consciousness, we should listen to very carefully.
I like listening to me.
Right. I know that. And so there's something about us that has us not being objective about other people, but more importantly, not being willing to speak up.
And it goes – it has some – I suspect some drawback to, hey, man, you're not the boss of me.
You cannot judge whatever you're into.
The cannot judge piece has now become the endemic problem, right?
Cannot judge, so how can we say anything because we cannot judge?
How can we say anything?
Well, for folks who've sworn off judging, we sure call a lot of people Nazis and racist and homophobic.
Right, so what is this?
And scared of people that look different than them.
Yeah, so what is this?
It's a fear-based.
I believe that you can sell 100 units of laundry detergent a week based on an advertisement that says it smells good and it'll get those grass stains out.
But you could sell a million units a week if you did an advertising campaign that talked about germs
and about how your child's exposed to the germs and about how other leading detergents don't kill those germs
that cause hepatitis and gingivitis.
Right.
So you're going at the emotion of disgust because that's what that plays upon, the primitive emotion of disgust.
Is it?
Yeah.
The fear is disgust?
It's ultimately that's disgust.
Anything about germs and stuff, it's really how we react emotionally is initially disgust.
Well, I'm going at fear.
And then fear.
Fear and disgust kind of go hand in hand.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so you keep going.
So you could talk about nice smelling detergent, but if you want to talk about putting people in danger or germs or cleaning, we're going to sell more units. of I could get X amount of people to vote for me based on policies that I put in place
that might be attractive to them.
But that's tough because, A, how many people are in this bracket or how many people commute
or how many people need public transportation or how many people need public transportation or how many people need public housing.
Now you're scattered to the wind because you go,
hey, tell you what I'm going to do.
I'm going to build more public transportation.
And the one guy goes,
oh, you got my vote.
And then Mark Garagos goes,
fuck that.
I got a Range Rover.
I don't want to pay for that guy's bus.
Now you've split your vote.
Right.
You're scattering it to the wind.
But if you go, hey, the guy's running against me, he's Hitlerian.
Yeah.
He's a Nazi.
He hates everyone.
And he's homophobic.
And you're not living the life you're meant to lead.
And you guys should be living the life you're meant to lead.
Then you go, oh, well, that's easy now.
I'm going gonna vote for the
guy who's not hitler-esque right or he's not scared of things if people look different than
him it's it's it's it's it's a shorter easier way to get to look the finish line is i need a vote
so how do we get to that finish line one involves numbers and decisions and saying things
like hey taxpayers uh we're going to take those unfunded pensions and we're going to get rid of
them you know and then the fucking school teachers union and the cops and the farmer go what the
fuck you said i could retire 53 with full benefits and full pay for the rest of my life well we got
to pull some of that off the table.
Well, no, now we're not voting.
Okay, now we're getting messy.
Becomes a sort of Rubik's Cube that never really fully ever can line up.
Because there is no such thing as don't worry deficit and budget that's going bankrupt.
We're going to cut,
we're going to take these firemen
and when they retire at 52,
instead of as promised,
we're just going to pay them full freight for the rest of their life.
By the way,
it's insane.
This notion, like, I do, I sit around
sometimes, and I'm sure you do,
and you go like, oh yeah, what about the pension?
Yeah.
How about the guy's pension?
And then you go, wait a minute, retired 52 and you get paid a full salary for the rest of your life.
Incredible.
What is what does that mean?
And then I always look around.
I go, where's my pension?
Yeah.
How's that?
So it's part of me that goes like, oh, yeah, he deserves.
I go, well, wait a minute.
How how does it work for everyone else or the people that run their
own businesses or whatever it is? So
it's kind of
a fool's errand to go, hey, don't worry
taxpayers. I'm going to take that money away from those firemen.
And then you go to the firemen, hey,
bad news. And they go, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, you're not
going to vote for me? Okay, you keep all the money. And then,
hey, taxpayers, it's not going to work
out. But
you just go for foolish rhetoric. Instead of getting
mired in that, you just go, whoever's
running against me,
that guy made a move
on one of his...
He patted some girl in the
behind when he was out
stumping. So, go
at it, Me Too. Or he
said something that's
racially divisive.
It's just an easier, lower calorie burnt kind of way of winning thing.
Right?
Yeah.
Otherwise, why would everyone do it?
Right.
It works.
It works until it stops working.
It works until it stops working it's basically what it is is you have a gun the gun has blanks
in it and every time the grizzly over there starts moving toward your campfire you just
pop one in the air noise goes off grizzly goes away, after enough fucking caps go off in the air,
that Grizzly's like, you know what?
I'm hungry.
I'm hungry.
Not really going for the fucking...
Last 15 times I walked to that guy's campfire,
I heard a backfire sound.
I ran back to my cave.
But you know what?
I don't think there's anything in that gun.
I think they're all fucking blanks.
And then you get eaten.
So how does that metaphor figure into what's
gonna happen that was a metaphor i'm talking about bears i knew you were talking about bears i was
hoping there'd be some something about human existence people will wise up to whatever
fucking you know when gavin you know when gavin newsom says um god it it's Gary's favorite line.
I never can remember the traffic line.
You want it?
You're not in traffic.
You are traffic.
When people realize that that's a fucking cap gun in the air, I don't even know.
First off, retarded person who runs California, that doesn't mean anything.
You are traffic?
Yeah.
Okay. When people eventually hear enough of that shit while they're
stopped on the 405, they'll eventually go,
fuck this. I hope so.
Let's talk to James. James
Williamsburg, Virginia.
You've been taking Zoloft?
Yeah, I'm
taking Zoloft, and what's
happening is it's creating a
false positive for Benzos,
and they're talking about removing
the Zoloft from my medication in order to fix the false positive.
How long have you been off benzodiazepines?
Well, I haven't taken them.
That's the problem.
In your life, you've never taken them?
No. Hmm. That's weird. I In your life, you've never taken them? No.
Hmm.
That's weird.
I've never seen Zoloft do that.
I've been taking Zoloft for about a year now.
That's very unusual.
What's going on with Zoloft?
Very unusual.
Why are you taking that?
For depression.
Right, but why?
Well, I'm in a mental hospital, so that's why.
You're in a hospital presently?
Yes.
Are you chronically hospitalized?
Yes.
Huh.
But I have to take, I'm in a gradual release program, so I have to urinalysis every day.
And it came up that I had benzos in my system, and then now this is like the third time where it's been a false positive,
and now they're talking about removing the Zoloft,
and I don't know if that's such a good idea.
Well, you know, it's pretty, I mean, many SSRIs function similarly,
so you can always just switch over to something else.
It's not that big a deal.
But what was your drug of choice?
Well, I didn't do drugs.
Why are they testing you every day?
Well, in case I am
on drugs.
Maybe it's part of a new protocol.
Are you able to work, James?
Yes, I work in the kitchen.
Good. Are you doing what I
always say, like lots of classical music and long walks and all
the stuff that is good for you that couldn't hurt?
Yeah, well, actually today I went to an AA meeting and I listened to jazz music the whole
way there, which was nice.
Why do you go to an AA meeting if you don't use drugs or alcohol?
Well, I did use alcohol.
Okay.
So, hey, James. alcohol. So, Hey James.
Yes.
How's your diet?
Uh, it's pretty terrible right now.
It's mainly candy and just anything I can get my hands on and then the hospital food.
Can we do a look just for my sake?
Can we do like the more protein and the less candy and the less grain and the walks and the classical music and that just to build yourself up?
Yes, I agree.
Okay.
Well, do that for us and inquire about switching SSRIs.
One last thing.
No injectable medication.
You haven't been injected every two weeks or something with something?
Yeah, I get injected with Belify.
Okay. Well, that may be showing up on your benzo screen.
Really?
So make sure you tell your doctors that.
Thanks, James.
Do all those things.
Call us back.
I want to know if they make a dent.
All right.
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Chance to check that out.
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