The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Love in the Time of Stay-At-Home Orders (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: April 8, 2023

Adam and Drew open today's show talking about the shift that Adam has noticed in our modern television commercials and how it relates to a shift in the messaging during the DNC he'd watched. The guys ...turn to a clip from The View who had salon owner Shelly Luther on as a guest to discuss her controversial decision to open her business in the face of orders to remain closed. They then turn to the phones and speak to a pharmacist with questions about how to help with the opioid epidemic and more.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to the Adam and Dr. Drew show classics. First up for today, episode 386, released August 1st, 2016, titled Love. It's what makes the Adam and Dr. Drew show. Adam tells Dr. Drew about the shift he noticed watching the DNC, as they focused on feelings over policies and connects it to modern television commercials i was talking about uh on my podcast this weird zeitgeist shift we've had about feelings and sharing and love yeah yeah and and i thought um i was talking about i was watching the dnc and i was like I've never heard more talk about love and caring and sharing and healing.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Yeah. Because normally it's a bunch of policy or technically, it's usually, it's a sort of, they used to be kind of trade shows for politics. You know, here's what we're going to do. But it wasn't like a lot of, you got to feel this way, you got to look that way. a lot of, you got to feel this way, you got to look that way. But I was saying to the guys, as I was, I start watching, I tell you all the time that I'm the only human being left on the planet who watches commercials because I watch them to find out where we're going. Their idea is to do a snapshot of where we're at this second.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Yeah. And I see car commercials where people are talking about breaking into their happy dance insurance commercials. You said this last week. But now I saw a Subaru commercial. They're made with love. And I'm thinking love is what makes a Subaru. This is a car made of vulcanized rubber and bonderized steel.
Starting point is 00:01:40 You know what I mean? Yeah. Love. Only love makes a Subaru. It's like, well, that suggests... You know what that suggests to me? That suggests a lot of the weird problems we're having with millennials must be because of some emotional depravity.
Starting point is 00:01:51 They must not have received much love when they needed it or something. Whatever it is... Oh, my God. Car commercials didn't talk about love. Well, they did in the 60s. No, well, they had Herbie the Love Bug. But listen. No, no. No, well, they had Herbie the Love Bug. But listen. No, no.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Love, love, love is all you need. Remember when I said that? I made it into commercials. No, no. That was just... I agree. That was... But first off, it's the summer of love.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Yeah. And I got it, but it wasn't... The cars weren't made with love. You would love your car. Yeah, yeah. It's a little... You think it's semantics. It's not.
Starting point is 00:02:25 It's a modern version, though, maybe. But here's what I was, it's funny you would bring this up, because today I was sitting in a- Would you like to just quickly hear the Subaru thing? Sure. Okay. Love. It's what makes a Subaru a Subaru.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Ooh. It's what makes it a Subaru. Sort of gross. Sort of weirdly disgusting. Well, it's also the last thing I'm looking for when I'm purchasing a vehicle. Yeah. Is what makes Subaru. By the way, I'm sure Porsche uses zero love, but they'll kick your ass.
Starting point is 00:02:53 So give me that. But I don't want that. Look, you're telling me one airplane, one commercial airplane is made with love, and the other one's just made at Boeing? I'll just go with the Boeing. Hell yes. Hell yes. That's a great point. I don't know what they're at Boeing. I'll just go with the Boeing. Hell yes. That's a great point. I don't know what they're going for. They're going for all the
Starting point is 00:03:10 you just saw the DNC, right? I always thought that feeling thing that they got into was a response to the discussion about fear from the RNC. So we're going to respond with a different feeling. Our feeling is a positive feeling. I get it, but it's all feelings. I'm saying the feelings
Starting point is 00:03:25 has gone into insurance, car insurance, but the car itself is now having feelings. You buy your Subaru with love and then you go into your happy dance. Sing, what the fuck is going on? I was sitting in a coffee shop today in Venice, California.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And looking at all the hipsters all around. And I was talking to my cat through it, my partner at Loveline, and partner at KBC now. And I just went, what the hell? What's going on here? This is, you know, this reminds me of, I thought this really reminds me of the hippie movement.
Starting point is 00:03:58 When the hippie thing started going mainstream, it sort of lost its power, but it went mainstream anyway. I mean, with Laugh-In, the TV show being sort of the ultimate expression of all that nonsense. The crazy patterns
Starting point is 00:04:10 and the long hair and the beads and the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. A lot of fringe. And you correct me if I'm wrong. Tassels. The arc of that
Starting point is 00:04:18 is about four years. So I think we got about three more years of this left, maybe two in the mainstream, and then it'll just go away. And then there'll be some sort of huge reaction the other way. We got Lacoste shirts responding to the hippie thing. That's what came next.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Yeah. Wait a minute. That's my thing, Drew. I'm just saying. That's my jacket. Well, you can like it. I'm just saying. It came in response to the hippies.
Starting point is 00:04:40 He's talking about the preppy movement. Yeah. I don't know how much longer we have. I feel like we're really stretching it out. Dude, your feelings? Kidding. It's such a weird thing to discuss feelings with somebody and how they don't have the right to. I've had this argument with people before where they're like, people just do this thing where they go, I have my rights to my feelings.
Starting point is 00:05:04 And I'm going, well, you're fucking wrong. And they go, I have my rights to my feelings. And I'm going, well, you're fucking wrong. And they go, I have my rights. And I'm like, all right, but if you're wrong, then you don't. And they're like, you have a right to have the feeling that you're not, you don't even have that. You don't have a right to them being correct or being, you know. Well, they're, they're implying that they're correct by having the right to have that feeling. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:19 Feelings are not necessarily correct. They just are. It's also, they're, they're, they It's also they're neither here nor there when it comes to automotive insurance, production of automobiles, and sometimes and mostly policies. Like what I was saying is we need a water-dropping airplane in Los Angeles, not feelings on things. I'll tell you where people are getting off the rail perhaps. You back me up on this if I'm right. It's that it's our left brain's responsibility. Our left brain's responsibility is to get in there and deduce the best plan of action.
Starting point is 00:05:57 And then our right brain, you sit back and go, does it feel right to me? Does my gut tell me? Does it feel good? And if my gut tells me something's wrong, my left brain needs to go back in and take a good look at it again. But we don't just chuck the whole thing or we don't let the right brain decide what it should be. We use the right brain as sort of a guide,
Starting point is 00:06:16 sort of a motivator. Even if your gut's not good with it, there's probably a reason. So go look. Go look harder. Go look again. Do something different. And then when your gut feels right,
Starting point is 00:06:26 okay. But you don't let your intuition create the policy necessarily. Right? You know what I'm saying? Does this make sense? We haven't figured out how to use these two systems together or something. I've figured it out pretty easily and it's pretty effective and
Starting point is 00:06:41 I think it's a skill that needs to, it's a muscle that needs to be exercised. And it doesn't help that when you sort of lay something out for somebody, and there's been more of this talk in the last five years than the past 500 years, where the answer is, I just feel like something should be done. And go all right how about this energy source no no i feel like i feel like we're smart enough to have clean abundant energy that leaves a zero footprint in terms and you go well we're not there yet. I feel like we should be. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:07:27 This is all what you feel. But it doesn't really save lives or get things done or get things powered up or run air conditioners or whatever. It's like a lot of feeling. As invested as I am in feeling and in the importance of feelings, I think we've gone too far with them dictating adult behavior can i tell you that in uh in the take a knee series which you guys can subscribe to for 14 cents a day or something on podcast one gary will back me up i've had a lot of really smart guys on that show and experts and things like energy and creating energy and generating energy and i've talked to all those experts and like generating energy this is one
Starting point is 00:08:13 topic and said like what should we do and they went okay here's what we should do and here's what would be effective and here's what would save a lot of the people in the third world and so on and so forth and then then pause go, but it's never going to happen. And I go, well, why not? You're the expert, right?
Starting point is 00:08:28 But people feel like it's not this, that, and the other. And I'm like, I don't want a bunch of assholes with their fucking feelings dictating whatever the expert does. And that would explain in any department. Um,
Starting point is 00:08:41 I agree. We've now done this part and it was, it was something I've been railing on for a million years, which is, look, their opinion is every bit as valid as it. No, it's not. Not when it comes to it's every bit as valid. And even this, I would argue it's not, but it's every bit as valid in picking out material for a love seat to be reupholstered in. In that case, you can go, I'm partial to this navy blue corduroy, and I go, well, I like the eggplant-colored leather.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Okay, that's just a, okay, that's what you like, that's what I like. But when it comes to generating energy or wiping out ISIS or schools or crumbling inner cities or whatever it is. It's not about your feeling. There's numbers. It can be crunched and we can go figure it out.
Starting point is 00:09:30 I feel like there should be a Higgs boson. Okay, well, let's prove it. Or I feel like there shouldn't be. Well, let's find out. What you're feeling is fine, maybe or maybe not valid, but now we got to go take a look. And then once we do, we'll just act on it. Data is the data, always it the data is the data always the data is the data you know the uh the uh prager you people let me do a thing on uh the thing i
Starting point is 00:09:52 keep saying about no free lunches and stuff in nature yeah in nature but i think they've misunderstood what i was saying do you understand what i'm saying when i say because this reminds me of that a little bit for no free lunches in nature? Well, I mean, I think for Drew, when he says that, I think he was to do it, I think, in terms of... Medication and drugs. Yeah, steroids and things like that, where you get this outcome that you like for a while, and then you've got to pay for it later on.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Right, I was saying, it really is in relation to physiology and changing physiology with pharmacology. And when it's worth the risk, it sometimes is worth the risk and sometimes it's worth the price. But it better be worth the price. You got to really know what that price is and evaluate it. What do you think their misinterpretation of it is? I think they think it's somehow like a social comment I was making or something. I wasn't saying there's no free lunches in, I don't know, in the world.
Starting point is 00:10:49 You know what I mean? They literally mean like no free lunch at the school cafeteria? No, I think they mean like literally if you do something and it comes too easily, you're missing something or something, which is kind of true. That's what you're missing something or something, which is kind of true. That's what you're saying. What you're saying is, I mean, kind of, look, take these steroids. You won't have to work out as often or as hard. Or you'll get results that are inflated. That's right. But at some point it'll come back to you.
Starting point is 00:11:17 And that's kind of what I think. And you would say, let's look at free lunches. Well, you would say that you didn't go make the lunch for your kid. You didn't engage with your child. Your child doesn't know that you made the lunch there. There's a consequence to getting the free lunch. My biggest problem with it, as I really stand back and look at it, is indoctrinating your kids into a system very early on. I mean, there's no more formative years than you know seven eight nine ten when you start you know your first grade public school you are bringing them into a system
Starting point is 00:11:52 that says somebody will do a really bad version of something whether it's housing or lunches or whatever it may be they're going to do a really subpar version of it, and that's what you'll subsist off of. Instead, we got just depravity on us. No, I got the free lunches. You did? Okay. Oh, yeah. And like I said, it was always interesting to me because I had to weigh my mom's sort of crazy, militant.
Starting point is 00:12:23 This was like, it sort of reminds me like every once in a while in the Super Bowl when the best offense in the league runs into the stingiest defense in the league. It's like, who's going to win this game? We got the highest scoring one and the least points allowed. That was what my mom was with
Starting point is 00:12:39 when it came to her militant, hippie, sort of bullshit, pseudoscience health food kick. On the other side, her opponent staring her down, lethargy. So now it's clash of the non-Titans, right? Do we practice what we preach and make a nutritious meal for the son. Oh, I see. Yes. Or do we get the freebie one from the city, which is nothing but gelatinous garbage that is horrible for your kid. But it's from the government.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Gotta be good. Doesn't, no. Not from the man. It's from the government. No, she didn't like the government. She didn't like the government. So free, but horrible, or calorie burner, but nutrition. That's when I realized where the rubber really met the road. I am lazy above all things.
Starting point is 00:13:40 That's her number one thing. It's her credo. It's over the door of her bedroom. I'm lazy above all else. Two cot mattresses and a cross. That was her crest. Two cot... That was the crest of the Corollas. Lazy above all else.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Well, no, but think of... That is a t-shirt. Come on now. Think about it, Drew. I'm thinking about it. Nothing but health food talk. No, listen, you're... But not going to make your kid a healthy lunch because you get a free piece of slop from
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Starting point is 00:14:29 The guys discuss a clip from The View featuring a salon owner who controversially chose to open her business during stay-at-home orders. All right. So this is from The View last week. All right, so this is from The View last week, and Shelley Luther, I guess, is the salon owner who safely reopened but did it on her own. She went rogue. She was in Texas, right? She was in Texas, in Dallas, and the very scary judge wanted her to apologize to her community, otherwise he'd throw her in jail, which is like a crazy Orwellian thing. Again, he could go, it's a $75 fine and another $75 for every day you don't comply. But he went, I need you to bow.
Starting point is 00:15:16 I need you to apologize. And you apologize to your community. You apologize. I won't throw you in jail. But if you don't, I will throw you in jail. First off, I don't even know what a judge, that's a judge's job. Why is it his job to get her to apologize? You need to adjudicate this thing, right?
Starting point is 00:15:34 Apologize or I'm going to put you in jail. It's a weird hat for a judge to wear. It's scary. It would have been a great opportunity for somebody to get up in a grand soapbox and just. Well, she did. She said, I'm not going to apologize for being selfish. She wanted to apologize for being selfish. She said, I'm taking care of my kids.
Starting point is 00:15:52 That's not selfish. And her customers who probably begged her to open. So now she's become, of course, a hero to the right and a pariah to the left because the pariah, they just want you to bow. and a pariah to the left because the pariah, they just want you to bow. So the Yentas from The View, I haven't seen it, but I think are probably angry at her for not bowing in front of the fucking man. So we'll hear a little clip of that.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Shelley, coronavirus cases are already rising in Texas and across the country where restrictions have been lifted. And you worried about your staff and your customers. That already is wrong. I've been watching Georgia very carefully. They're declining steadily in the face of opening widely. Yeah, but how can I yell at this business owner? How can I?
Starting point is 00:16:43 By the way, I get paid full freight. Yeah, yeah. All the women in the view are getting paid. Sure. But you, small business owner, and all your clients who want this. By the way, can we, can we just realize that anybody who feels fearful or feels like they're not taking the right measures, like, hey, that chick's smoking.
Starting point is 00:17:07 She's not even wearing a mask. They won't go in. You understand? They're making a decision to go in. That's the first thing. Right. The customers have weighed the risks, and they've decided to go in. Like, you go to Pismo Beach, and you rent an ATV,
Starting point is 00:17:24 and you putz around on the sand. You can break your arm on that, but you've decided to do this. He could get killed. And one death is too many, so no more ATVs. That's it. Gone. We do understand the concept of people wanting to go in and get their fucking roots dyed or their bangs cut, right? All right.
Starting point is 00:17:41 That's their decision, witches. But anyway, she doesn't like the chicks from the view they don't like the idea that people get to make that decision right and they don't like the idea that this business owner gets to decide when it's safe weighing it against no income for her employees and open it up they don't't like that. But anyway, here we go. Shelley, coronavirus cases are already rising in Texas and across the country where restrictions have been lifted. And you worried about your staff and your customers. I mean, I would assume you're worried about your staff and customers getting sick since there's now an uptick because of people not following the rules like yourself.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Well, I think that there's a rise in the COVID cases because there's more testing available and that has been discussed before. So we expect it arise in the cases. What we need to look at is the number of deaths, if that is plateauing at all, and to make sure that we have room in our hospital beds. And Texas has plenty of room in their beds and are able to care for the people that need to come in at this time. As a matter of fact, there's doctors and nurses getting furloughed because there's not enough work. Okay, well, the one thing that I do want to...
Starting point is 00:19:11 Okay. You got to follow the rules. You're not following our rules. I sit in air conditioning and get paid. You need to follow the rules. And then she gives an answer, which is basically just a bitch slap. Like, hey, this is what's going on. And then Whoopi does a dismissive, okay. Like, hey, person just made a point.
Starting point is 00:19:41 You're allowed to go, I understand. And that is true. Or whatever. You got to kind of concede the point. You don't get to go, I understand. And that is true. Or whatever. You've got to kind of concede the point. You don't get to go, okay. All right. Let's hear what pearls of wisdom Whoopi has. You know what?
Starting point is 00:19:57 Whoopi and Ted Lieu, those guys, we should get Ted Lieu and Whoopi together and they should moderate the national speech and debate for seniors. I don't know if they have some sort of Olympics of speech and debate, but Ted Lieu and Whoopi should moderate, right? Or maybe participate. They could go, oh, oh, oh.
Starting point is 00:20:22 All right, sorry, go ahead. All right. Sorry. Go ahead. OK, well, the one thing that I do want to point out, Shelley, before we go, is that, you know, I understand why you did what you did. But I would like to hear you put some of that fury and that passion towards the governments that didn't take care of the people because that's what they're supposed to do. So I want you to get out there and fight for all those folks who are not getting what they're supposed to be getting and not getting the information that they need. And then I think I'll feel better about watching you tell people I'm feeding my people. I get it. We thank you for coming in, Shelley.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Come back and let us know how it's going. She'll never be back, by the way. I can guarantee you that because she slapped him a little bit. She's not welcome back. There was about four minutes I didn't show you that was just that over and over and over again. Highly, highly eloquent.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Just sitting there calmly taking their questions. Whoopi Goldberg is not coherent, right? Do you know what she just said? They can't say thank you for being here without throwing shade on the Trump administration. Is that what was going on? So it's kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Should she be able to access a microphone why first off could you imagine an all-male version of the view like just sitting around well you you i just hope um next time you are going to give someone a perm that you would consider local and federal government peoples who haven't gotten access to information about what's happening today. I'd just be fired immediately. Like, Carolla's a fucking retarded person. He doesn't know what he's talking about. He's not tracking. He doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Well, I don't know who that was. I want to hear Whoopi one more time, Gary. I guess she was trying to throw some shade at the Trump administration, but be a little more concise. Or you could be funny. That would be interesting. That's a taller.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I want to create a list of all the words that have come out of this whole damn thing. Furloughed, she mentioned. It's another word. We never use furloughed. Doctors were fired. Doctors are excused from work. Furloughed. That word staggering, that's another word.
Starting point is 00:23:03 I hear that word every day. You can see Whoopi's face. Look how much disdain she has for a person that dared open their business without asking Her Highness's permission. She didn't ask permission. It's a weird thing for people to glom onto. This particular case? This idea that they in on high judging other people's choices it's weird to me well they don't do any judging if you're transitioning
Starting point is 00:23:35 or transitioning into an ottoman like sexually like they will not judge anything but they were they have plenty of room to judge a small business owner, which is interesting because they dance to the Piper's tune of not judging. It does not matter what you want to do in your personal life or what you want to ingest or anything. There's no judgment going on. Why is there so much judgment in this department? Right. There's this glee in judging people for daring to question the infinite wisdom of epidemiologists. It's all they're really doing is they're saying, you know what? I've signed up for this for a couple months. I'm not sure that the models really still apply.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I'm willing to take some risk. It's all they're doing. That's all they're doing. Well, of course you have to be a profound narcissist to look at that as putting other people in danger or putting us in danger or putting me. And it's not disregard for your role as a community member. It's saying, no, no, no. As a community member, I think there's some other priorities that need to emerge here, meaning feeding my kids and rebuilding the economy. And I think these models may be a little too conservative, and I think it's worth the risk.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Listen, Whoopi Goldberg has much more disdain for a taxpayer who runs a small business and has employees than a guy who has three kids out of wedlock and never takes care of or sees or is a part of his kid's life. There's no doubt in my mind she has no judgment toward that man and plenty of judgment toward this woman, which means she has it 100% backwards. She's got it completely wrong,
Starting point is 00:25:15 which also means you should never listen to her about anything ever because she's 100% wrong about her judgments morally. But here we go. Let's hear what she says. Sorry. Okay. Well, the one thing that I do want to point out, Shelley, before we go is that, you know, I understand why you did what you did, but I would like to hear you put some of that fury and that passion towards the governments that didn't take care of the people because that's
Starting point is 00:25:44 what they're supposed to do. So I want you to get out there and fight for all those folks who are not getting what they're supposed to be getting and not getting the information that they need. And then I think I'll feel better about watching you tell people I'm feeding my people. I get it. Come back and let us know how it's going. It's a very strange, oblique comment, right? I don't even know. I don't know. To be fair, I don't know if it's. It's a very strange, oblique comment, right? I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:26:06 I don't know. To be fair, I don't know if she knows what she's talking about. What information do people not have? The governments? She kind of pluralizes it like what? Multiple governments? Texas government? By the way, how about she just run her business?
Starting point is 00:26:22 She doesn't need to get out there and educate. Why is it? She runs a salon. She wants to open her business, pay her employees, and pay taxes. Is that okay? Or does she have to carve out some time where she puts a sandwich board sign on and rings a bell, here he, here he, and
Starting point is 00:26:39 walks up and down the boulevard? And explains to people about how the government works. Gary, is this something that I'm missing in like this Whoopi Goldberg? Am I missing something or – That's the third time I've listened to it. I'm still not sure what she's saying. Earlier, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Earlier in the interview, which will be posted at the Adam and Drew show website. They come at her with this thing about how she had applied for a loan and a couple of days before a court case, she got $18,000 deposited into her account. And why didn't she feel that that was enough? And she came back with a very eloquent answer about how she didn't know which one of the several loans she had applied for that came from. And she wasn't sure what she was allowed to do with the money and didn't want to put herself in further debt and her employees are not really employees because they sublease space in the salon that she owns so she can't she wasn't sure if she could pay them directly it was and she finished her question in there it was a lot like whoopee they're okay and then went to their next gotcha askesque question. It was very weird. Right. But anyway, they've decided that she's the enemy.
Starting point is 00:27:47 We'll be right back with more of the Adam and Dr. Drew Show classics. Last up for today, we have episode 592, released May 31st, 2017, titled This is a Penis Pit. The guys go to the phones and take calls, first from a pharmacist looking for ways to make a difference in the opioid epidemic, and another looking for relationship advice. Hey, Eric, what's going on? Hey. What's going on, man? Hey.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Hey. Hey, I've been listening to you guys for a while. I'm a big fan. Adam, I came to see you when you were in Boston last fall. Oh, thanks. And Drew, I was actually just listening to your podcast on my ride home from work. From a couple weeks ago, I think you had a therapist from the Betty Ford Clinic, and you were talking about the opiate problem and addiction.
Starting point is 00:28:55 It kind of struck a nerve with me because I'm a pharmacist, and I was a retail pharmacist for over 10 years, and I recently, I was a retail pharmacist for years, over 10 years. And, you know, I saw the opiate crisis every day. It was balls deep in it, basically. And I'd like to, I mean, Drew, I want to pay you a compliment just in how, I'm amazed at how you are able to see addictive behaviors and not, probably not verbalizing as well. I would go into work every day and be surrounded by addictive behaviors of patients.
Starting point is 00:29:32 You have to know how to, you have to not let it be any more shaming or stigmatized than if you had somebody with a sore throat standing there saying, I have a fever. It's the same thing. It's just part of their disease. Absolutely. They're saying, I have a fever. It's the same thing. It's just part of their disease. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Yeah. Just personally, my way of, the way that I'm able to deal with it, or I guess not deal with it, I'm just, you know, their manner is just very annoying. Like, you can't, in the moment, I would do nothing but just be aggravated and annoyed by these patients. In retrospect, or outside the situation, I'd always be able to say, like, that's their addiction. That's their dependence. And I'm amazed at how you're able to, I guess, see it in the moment whenever I've watched you on Celebrity Rehab. Well, to be fair, I have a whole team around me, and I can sit and appreciate that they're sick,
Starting point is 00:30:24 and I know that it's somebody somebody is working on getting better. And even I lose my temper. I guess it's a disease that's very frustrating. It will make you very frustrated. Well, anyways, I guess about six months ago I made kind of a transition to a specialty pharmacy, so I feel basically not at all with controlled substances anymore, and I'm just dealing with different populations cool but i've just felt very um almost like just um
Starting point is 00:30:53 just guilty all from from having been in that environment for a long time and i feel guilty like having like left the people that I worked with. And, I mean, my job now is so much more rewarding, I guess. Yeah. But I still kind of have these feelings, like, of just, I guess, guilt. I don't know what else to call it. Well, it's like a survivor's guilt. Yeah, yeah. It is kind of a survivor's guilt.
Starting point is 00:31:22 That's really interesting. But I would say, you know, if you want to make a difference, I don't know, help with legislation in New Hampshire. That's where you're calling from to have some sort of system in place that captures these guys or start encouraging your peers to report to physicians that are excessive prescribers so at least they get on somebody's radar. But there's not a lot you can do as an individual person. I mean, that's why I'm not doing it that much day in, day out anymore because it just got overwhelming. I got tired of my peers killing my patients. That's what I got tired of.
Starting point is 00:31:53 I'd fight to get them off, get them off. They have no pain. They feel great. Fast forward three months, somebody would go, oh, you have back pain? Oh, you should be on this. You were fine on it before. Let's get back on that. I got a problem with peers killing my patients, too.
Starting point is 00:32:08 It's like, they delivered the tile to San Diego because that's where it is. Jesus Christ, would you listen to me? Police says that's peers killing patients, right? That's a little different. How many times do I have to describe this to you? I'm looking for my goddamn tile. What's it doing in San Diego? Killed it.
Starting point is 00:32:26 You were patient, and then it was gone. It's doing just fine, boss. All right. We got this clip of Mick. His name is my new. By the way, this guy's funny, and he's succinct, and he answers the questions. He should be the new press secretary. He's the business.
Starting point is 00:32:44 He's the budget guy. But here it is. Sorry. Can you talk about the provisions affecting federal employees and how to strengthen your plans to strengthen the federal government? I will. I'll deal with federal. Let's talk about federal retirement because that's gotten a little bit of it. And that's one of our largest changes. because that's gotten a little bit of a – and that's one of our largest changes. Simply put, we try and make federal retirement closer, closer to the private sector. So we've increased the contribution that they make to their 401K programs. I think on one program we got rid of a cost of living adjustment that was there. But keep in mind, those are folks who will also be participating in Social Security at the same time,
Starting point is 00:33:30 which is a cost of living adjusted. So we thought they were common sense reforms to try and bring the federal government benefit programs close to the private sector. I'm a federal worker. I have a pension and a 401k. Raise your hand if you're in the private sector and you have a pension and a 401k. My guess is, oh, maybe one did. Did you really?
Starting point is 00:33:52 In the back? Nobody did. She wanted to ask the next question. Yeah, they're asking the question. So we're simply trying to get some common sense back into that program. So yeah, I know a guy's a fireman and he's telling me
Starting point is 00:34:05 when he turns 50 he's going to retire full salary for the rest of his life. And I ask you this, who amongst us has that option? And then if the answer is we don't, well then why are we paying for him? Why
Starting point is 00:34:21 are they a little bit closer to what we're dealing with? So the government is so weird because it's always like, hey, those guys should get everything they want all the time. Yeah. Where's our stuff? Why? Why? Exactly why?
Starting point is 00:34:34 Most of those guys, most of the guys who took the government route just sort of, they took a little step. They drove off a side road that was a little more like, eh, I don't feel like. Maybe they're smarter than the rest of us. Well, they are if they're retiring at full pay at age 50. Yeah. Think about that.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I don't even know what that means. I don't either, but imagine if you just stopped working and your income just stayed the same. It'd be nice. All right, Let's see. Let me talk to 19 or who's that? All right. Someone.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Yeah. I think I was at a bar. Yeah. Eddie, 24, LA. Hi, guys. And thanks for taking my call today. Sure, man. Thanks for hanging out.
Starting point is 00:35:19 What's going on? So I just have a quick, I just want you guys for both of you guys to input on some issues I've been having for the past three weeks. Just a quick rundown. So I started playing music with somebody I just met. She's really nice and stuff. So she wanted to hang out just outside of like, you know, band situations, stuff like that. Long story short, we do. We also drink.
Starting point is 00:35:41 We end up hooking up. But no, we end up not having sex. So after that, we hang out two more times. Same results happen, but we never have an official title to each other. So last week, she told me that she wanted just to be friends, which I was completely fine with. But when I asked her why, she pretty much told me that she didn't want she didn't want to ruin her the good things in her life at this moment so right now we're friendly we have we're
Starting point is 00:36:11 like we're good right now but i just don't really know how to feel about this and i have told her my intentions like hey like i'm interested in you but like i don't know but she keeps telling me like oh she doesn't know she's very very confused. She has a very extensive past. Like, she ran away in high school. She's been hospitalized for, like, suicide attempts, mental issues, anorexia. Has actually gone to rehab, AA and NA, but she still drinks, like, casually. And then one thing she also, I noted, she told me her past relationships have been very codependent. And the last thing, she's been in abusive relationships before, physically and emotional.
Starting point is 00:36:54 So we're like, I don't know, it's just so weird that I'm attracted to her because I'm like total opposite with her. Well, even if you forget the fact that she has chronic psychiatric illness, she's a severe addict who's on her way to relapse. She's been in domestic violence relationships, and she will find them again unless she does a lot of treatment on a regular basis. Oh, she's a captain in the Mexican lowrider gang as well. But you can take all of that out and forget all of her background and all of her psychiatric baggage and just look at your relationship, and she's just not that into you. She's up for a friendship. I would take her at her word. Clarity.
Starting point is 00:37:34 You guys got drunk and screwed around, hook up, and then you said the same, but was there any, there was never sex? No, no, there wasn't, but, I mean, it was just was just all like she's been very clear we can be friends yeah forget it don't i don't care any woman says that to you take her at her word you can't yeah that's what i was just thinking yeah sorry like i was just thinking oh sorry there's a movie called the money pit made before you were born the The great Shelley Long in it. Tom Hanks. And they just didn't have the ability, the capacity,
Starting point is 00:38:11 the know-how, the expertise to fix this house where things just kept going wrong. This is a penis pit. You don't have enough in the junk department to ever really fix this. But she doesn't even want to.
Starting point is 00:38:26 And it's not for sale. Right. You can't buy this penis pit. You can't buy the penis pit. I talked to the broker. Not being listed. So you just take your little toolbox and bring it to another project. But hopefully one that just needs a fresh coat of paint, maybe some carpet, not a full termite-infested remod.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Yeah. Yeah. All right. I can't do any better than that. That's why I get the big bucks, right, sir? You have to drop the mic. Drop it and walk away. That's all for this week.
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