The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Pedolph Isle (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: December 31, 2024

Adam and Drew discuss their recent separate court side experiences at Lakers games. They then explore how Adam's mother met her current husband and Ray's role in uncovering that information. Later the pair take calls on punishing pedophiles, overcoming the residual effects of childhood molestation and how a borderline personality can affect children.

This is Corolla Digital. Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew show Yeah, get it on got to get it on no choice But to get it on mandate get it on and thank you so much for joining us and thank you so much for the support everybody watching us Climb up the charts on iTunes and you guys telling a friend

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You know what, I'm a late comer to that donate idea, but I started thinking, if everyone donated a quarter, we could do this for a long time. Well, it's more like if one out of every four people donate a buck, it's gonna be harder to get everyone to give a quarter. But you know the thing that's about donations, you and I are this way.

I've been doing my podcast for over four years now. I can't believe that. And it was always, well do we ask for donations? Do we get... How do you do this? Yeah, how do you do this? Do we ask for donations? Do we get? How do you do this? Yeah, how do you do this? Do we ask for donations? Do we get sponsorship?

Like, what do we do here? And I never asked for donations. I just figured we'd sort of run it like a radio station. But I also realize people want that option. Like, they like to donate. Like, they like to support. It's essentially the same thing with you know I get I get tweets all day, hey I bought a treadmill through Amazon and I click through your thing and they tweet me and

I say love you buddy. And they like that so they should have the option to do that. What I like about it is it puts the control in the audience. They vote with their feet and they're whatever. They like it, they support it, they don't like it, they don't support it. It puts it back to them. Yeah, I like that and that's what Drew and I ultimately like and that's what we like in a society as well. So Drew, off the air, Drew and I had a lovely dinner last weekend and off the air and during the dinner we were talking about the Kobe Bryant thing and our the sharp contrast in our floor seating on the Lakers game is we both did it within

you know four days of each other mine was them playing the Timberwolves blowing out the Timberwolves by like 23 points and zero eye contact. Decent amount of ass contact. A little eye to ass. A lot of eye to ass. Actually, my wife specifically liked the eye to ass. Yeah. Very much into the Ron Artes eye to ass.

I had a lot of Artes ass, because when you sit there and the guys are six, eight, it's pretty much eyeball to asshole, is where it works. This is no hyperbole. No, but I did not get a lot of eye to eye. I had eye to singular brown eye, but no eye to eyes. No eyeball.

No eyeball. Contact. You, however, had an experience. Now your game was you got these tickets, floor seats, last minute. Yeah, from the Warner Brothers Telepictures people. And then what? And we went, and it was the most amazing game I've ever been witness to in person.

It was behind the whole game. Lakers are behind the whole game. Raptors could not miss a shot. And Lakers couldn't hold onto the ball. Bad times, bad times. And at the last five minutes Kobe gets his look on his face like okay. I'm done. I'm gonna win this game and single-handedly won the game He calls that Adam time. He said it's Adam time. He said he effect is he well

I'll tell you the whole story he Adam time came up here interesting enough and he knows five on one basically for half an hour and Six sex left in the game final inbounds they need what's the score they need I think it's time I remember is that right it's time go to with no OT oh yeah OT OT double no single OT because of three three-pointer by Kobe single three three-pointers by the way on one foot falling backwards two of the three two of the three so into OT. We're into OT. And it's tied in OT. Everyone is on their feet. I mean nobody can sit down for the last 20 minutes. Right.

Except my wife who I instructed to sit down and close your eyes. Because you're staring at Artessa's ass? The brown eye, I think. I'm a little upset. And so it's now six seconds, final inbounds, couple times out before the inbound, and Kobe clearly is going to get the ball, and he walks over, and as he's walking across court, gives me that chin thing, that, hey you. And I was literally like, I didn't, huh? I froze. And he comes over and puts his hand from his mouth and goes, hey man, we got to chit chat

about Jody Arias. And then walks back, grabs the ball, wins the game. Like within four seconds of saying that to me. Wow. It was the coolest thing I've ever seen in my entire fucking life. Right. Yeah. Why?

No, I mean, yeah. Yeah. And you don't know Kobe, do you? I've been like at Kimmel's parties where he's at and stuff. Always seemed like a great guy and did not know him. But it turns out he's a Jodi Arias fan. Smash that microphone. So, and have you guys talked since about it?

Maybe. Maybe? Interesting. I'm ready to talk about it. Oh you're keeping it, playing it close to the vest. What I'm ready to talk about I'll talk. A little different talk out in the break room there. Interesting.

Interesting. So he is, now we were sitting around at dinner. But you know we just quite yeah We decided at dinner that his wife was probably into it and he kind of got sucked into it But he as it turns is into it. He seems to be into it. Mm-hmm the whole What? this

It's a weird thing because I have a does it make you money or does it make you happy? That's my adage This doesn't fall under either one of those headings and and look sometimes The people you could say to me. Well Adam You telling certain producers to fuck off that doesn doesn't make you money, and it doesn't make you happy. Yeah, it does make me happy. Yeah, it makes you happy, I know you. And not only does it make me happy,

the word isn't happy, it's satisfied. I'm glad that I can look back historically to all those people you and I have had run-ins with, and I told them specifically to fuck off. You need a brain vacation. Yeah, I told them specifically to fuck off. You need a brain vacation. Yeah, I told them to fuck off or that their idea was lame. I like being on record.

I mean, to me, I don't trot out the word hero that often. But I mean, when you look back historically, and somebody goes, well, we took a vote on civil rights in the 60s Don't you want to be on the right side? And I mean, right, you know, you didn't get paid from it Maybe it didn't make happy but historically you look back and you go, I'm glad I did that. Yeah, I'm glad I did that That's not really happy. It's satisfied. Yeah satisfied So it's being on the on the right side. When I told our coach in the Celebrity Dodger baseball game to fuck off and that I was going to beat his ass up on the diamond, I'm happy I did that. I'm glad I did it.

He was a dick. He was willing to have me sit the entire celebrity game and never get at that. That was his plan and it was my plan to tell him to fuck off and I'm very satisfied that I did that. If I had sat on the bench the whole time without telling him to fuck off, I'd be an unpleasant memory. Instead it turned into a delightful memory. You know what he's talking about? I do. I have a good friend who works at that agency and I saw him three weeks ago and he was like, yeah I mentioned to my boss that I you my buddy works for Adam Carolla

He definitely still remembers Well because he's the king of show business at the time at least and he had never been told to fuck off in his life I or at least in 30 years, and I was more than happy to tell him do that I got traded over to your team Yeah, I got traded in the middle of a celebrity. It wasn't exactly a trade. It wasn't trade, they didn't get anyone for me. But I had to join the other team in the middle of the game. You came over to the Gary Marshall team.

Yeah. Much more clement environment. That's right. What a douche. Guy's such a fucking douchebag. We got to talk to Gonzalez because of that though, didn't we, you and I? Yeah.

Yeah. Was it Jose Gonzalez? Was it Gonzalez? The Diamondback heavy hitter. The guy had a crazy breakout series, the Diamondbacks, in like 99. And we'll figure out his name. And he just caught fire and was

hitting home run after home run. And he was like the biggest star in baseball for that year. And he came right up to me and drew and said he's a huge Loveline fan. And then we signed, I'm signing autographs for him. For him and we took pictures with him. Yeah. That was when taking pictures though, the way was a thing. Yeah. We gotta get a camera, we gotta pose, there might be some film development involved at least in our mind. Right, right. The picture thing, there it is. That's that game I think. Yeah. I had a look at it. Yeah. Is it Jose? No, no, no. We'll think of his name. Emmanuel Gonzal? No, it's weird because he had a real Spanish-y name and, or Hispanic name, but he himself didn't come across.

No. He basically looked like a guy from Huntington Beach. Yeah. But, I don't know, the guy, whoever was leading the majors and home runs in 1999. Diamondback. Could have been diamond back. I mean, it could have been 90, could have been 97, 98.

I mean, it was pretty early on. It probably wasn't 99. Cause I then was thrown out of the game. I was thrown out of the game. I mean, I was not asked back to the game for quite a number of years. Until you and Kimmel took over the whole thing. Yeah, let's just do home runs.

Just type in home run leader, the Diamondbacks. His name will come up probably 98, 99. And then we went out to dinner on Saturday, as you were saying. Your kids were amazingly well behaved There might be these guys actually the guys I'm looking across the window I I sometimes forget how how easy they are just because I've only been exposed to them Yeah, so they just seem like them. Yeah to to me

But then I get around other people's kids and then Then other people tell me about their kids this Gonzales thing is driving me nuts now Whoever who led the diamond backs in home runs in 19 got his last name wrong to know we did Gonzales was in 2001 Was a guy that Williams Louise Louise Gonzales. Yeah Louise Gonz't. Luis Gonzalez was in 2001. In 1999 it was a guy named Matt Williams. Luis Gonzalez. Yeah. Luis Gonzalez. Yeah there it is. Yeah. Thank you. It must have been 2001 then. Seems longer ago than that. Well he could have let he could have been he could have had a hot streak in 99. Yeah yeah. And cooled down toward the end or 2000 could have been 2000 or whatever the hell it is anyway

Yes, my kids are very easy compared to most and as I've said million times my Daughters like raising three kids and my sons like raising an old cat, but but she's not three difficult kids No, she she's she's very mature and she's very good And you can take those very good and you can take those two anywhere and you can put them in the car for as long as you want to put them in the car. That's crazy. And you can sit them down anywhere and they're just, you know, they'll just do their own thing. Wow. They got

the videos and stuff. Yeah, they got stuff to occupy them and I don't know. Which is a godsend and a curse. Yes, and I don't know what it would be like if they didn't. I do know he doesn't need anything at all. Yeah. He just, he literally. Would you say though at dinner though, something about him being good because he didn't want you to yell at him?

What was that comment he made? He wanted, yeah, when he went to the bathroom. Yeah. He wanted, yeah, when he went to the bathroom, came back and said that he didn't want father to be mean to him or something. Yell at him. That's what he said. I don't know that you ever yelled at him. Maybe it was a sense that you had the capacity to yell.

I want them to know that I have an infinite capacity for yelling at everything. They seem to know that I have an infinite capacity for yelling at everything. They seem to know that. Even plants and rocks, geodes especially. Especially. Yeah. I want them to know that I will. Because I do it all the time, which is I say to them, I'm not your mom and I'm not your friend from school.

I'm not your mom and I'm not your friend from school. I'm your dad and that's that's better in many ways but don't come at me like you know like my my son called me dude the other day and I said I'm not dude. In what context? He just was doing like dude you know uh let me tell you about Ninjago or whatever he was getting into and I said I'm not dude I'm dad and and I don't like that I don't I don't even like it when they call other people you know their coach and a friend first name with the kids yeah his name is Mike you well I don't know what to call him we call mr. Mike yeah I want I don't I don't want that I don't want that once in a while they you know they'll do with the nanny like Olga Olga this is I don't want you know, bring you know, I'm ready to ask

No, no, no, she's not you. She's not your slave. You just talk to your slave. My son daddy's life You you have to speak nice to her. You have to ask her please tell her thank you You know, she's not you know, you to order her around back that all up. Yeah, yeah. That's good. Yeah, they are, we are trying to train them or to teach them to be sort of good citizens. Like you don't hog stuff, you don't boss people around, you're not rude with people. Did you guys ever think about having more kids? No. Impossible. Well, we've got a boy and a girl twin, it just seems like that's good.

Also, well speaking of, no, I twin. It just seems like that's good. Also, well speaking of, no, I didn't think about these two, honestly. I never really even thought about twins or kids like my whole life. I mean, it's usually, yeah, it's a weird, see I had a thing, like I think there's two ways you can go with kids and you know, you tell, you tell me. There's the, well, I come from a loving, nurturing environment where they put an emphasis on family and I'm anxious, like half-tired, and I'm anxious to get started in this process

and continue this process. I want my parents to have grandkids to enjoy. Now, you have to understand, the topic of grandchildren has never been a priority. to have grandkids to enjoy. Now, you have to understand, the topic of grandchildren has never been raised in the 40-some-odd years I've been on this planet with my parents. God, it's so weird.

Your mom was so enthusiastic about raising kids. Yeah. It's never, it's not like I was 32 and my mom said, hey son, you're certainly getting's not like I was 32 and my mom said, hey son, you know, you're certainly getting old enough now to start a family, you know, and I could use some grant. I want some little. Did she show any proclivity towards your sister's kids?

Because your sister went right on in. She loves my sister's kids. No, but I mean, was she like, was there an enthusiasm there? Yeah, she, well, she doesn't have enthusiasm about anything. That's what I'm saying. But she does like my sister's kids

And she does spend time with them and they they they do have a great relationship, but there was never a discussion There's never like I want some grandkids. Does your stepdad have any other children? I mean, I've never thought to ask that question because I didn't think he was capable of that There were children. I don't know if he has I don't know if he's been on a date. Other children. How'd you and your mom meet? Him and your mom on your stepdad. Oh, really?

Hold on, is this a bit? Is this a bit? No. No. I just went through this with Ray. Seriously? Well, I just went through this on my podcast because you know how Ray asked the difficult questions in life? Sometimes.

Like asking his mom whose dick was bigger, dad's, or the new guy she was dating. Oh, that's nice. He asked the hard questions. Ray asked his mom that? Yes. Book Ray's mom for my podcast, please. She's in heaven. Oh, god damn it.

Yes, he asked her that while I was there. How old were you? I was 20. Well, his parents didn't get divorced until Ray was probably, I don't know, 18 or something like that. Well, she was probably 38 or something, to be fair, right? 40? She could have been 40. Yeah. I don't know, she was probably, no, I mean, we were probably 23 and she was probably 50

or something like that. I think she was a teen mom with Ray, wasn't she? No. I think that's what he told me, no? Or close. Maybe. The fuck knows. The point is, is he asks anyone anything at any time and then and then gives you the answers whether you want them or not

What was the answer? My mother and my stepfather raised mom. Oh His dad had the length and Jim the new guy had the girth It's a better answer True is Drew don't walk away with those headphones. You can't do better than that. Can you do better than that? I can't believe she gave a specific answer like that.

She made Ray. Oh my God. You understand? Yes, I got it, got it. Yes, yes, she created Ray. Made. Please don't go there. She created him.

She created Ray. Yeah. That's why. Okay, well your mom created you, so how did they meet? My step- I can't believe I never asked this question. My stepfather and my mother, oh of course I've never asked where they met

because my stepfather's one of the quietest, he's the nicest guy on the planet, but he's as cheap as any Corolla well when I think of him I just think of pocket protectors yeah that's sort of what I think of and doesn't doesn't talk yeah but nice super nice so they meet they met at a primal scream and counter group can you do any better you see you hollywood you you you comedy writers out there in hollywood i think you're hot shit you

you can't do better than that right this you can't do better than that right because but but the part you're nineteen seventy four seventy five is that about the time I probably later, huh? I because it would have been asked it were 74 promise screen is about a 78. I Don't know. Well look into it is my parents I can't tell you when my parents got divorced because they didn't divorce they just kind of they were just like a boat that They didn't divorce. They just kind of, they were just like a boat that was, mooring came loose at the dock and just started floating and floating and floating into a different apartment, basically.

Because my family is so incapable of doing anything that would fall under the guidelines of just sort of official. Yeah, yeah. Like they couldn't- They take action. Can't take action. They could then have credit cards. No, I know. They could do nothing. Can't initiate, can't initiate.

They can't initiate. Yeah. They couldn't even get divorced. That was like too much of something. Right. Most people can file for divorce. Did they ever, how long before they actually, were they apart before they actually filed?

Probably after she met the step-down. They never. What? Huh? No, no, she met the step-dad. They never, they, no, no. Not until my dad remarried. Which was how long? Of 10 years. Did they have to, officially can't be married twice.

Just set a paperwork in the mail and. Yeah, sign that. Yeah. Yeah, there was no. And probably his, I know your stepmom, she initiated it. She's a person. She's a shit-dumb. Yeah, I don't think they would have ever got divorced.

It's just... No, no. I can see her doing it. The state of California mandates that you... No, I get that it had to be done, but it still wouldn't have been done if it had been up to them. Your stepmom gets shit-dumb. Oh, no.

I'm sure she went down and got the paperwork and filled it out. She probably held it in front of your mom. My dad put a mark on it and then sent it over to mom's place. Yeah, I can't remember. See, this is the part that's always hard to remember. Your stepmom is no bullshit. And people don't, you leave her out of the story a lot. No, no, she's, because she's normal.

She's normal, she's no bullshit. She made you live in the garage. And she's the one that- No, she didn't make me, I wanted to live in the garage. What? She made me, she got me out of the garage. What? I went.

Oh, she kicked you out of the garage. Well, she was like, look, if you're gonna be 19 and sort of living here, and if you're not going to college and you're gonna get a job, we'd like to park our cars in there. So, it was like, all right, now that you're gonna get a job, you know, we'd like to park our cars in there. So, you know, it's like, all right, now that you're making a whopping $7 an hour with taxes being taken out, cleaning up garbage on the construction site, it's time to find an apartment. And

that's what I did. That's fine. But she's normal. My family, her side of the family is very normal. I know, you never talk about your step siblings and stuff on that side. They're great. I talk about them. I met them once at your wedding and I was like what? Step? Well I don't talk about them to you. I talk about it on the regular podcast. They're nice normal people who want me to sign the books that they buy of mine. They read your books and stuff. They act like people would act if they were related even by marriage.

They come to your fence if you're in Portland. Are they in Portland? Yeah, yeah, they act the same way anyone would act who was a family member of somebody who was on the New York Times bestseller list. My family doesn't act. No, I know that. They're in Oregon, right?

Yes. So, okay, so you think she was doing you a favor? Like she was like this, that was her kind gesture to get you out of the garage and into the world? No. Or you think she just wanted to park her cars there? Well... You understand my question? Yeah. My stepmother is a good woman. I think she was doing you a favor. No. Yes. Listen, she married a guy who had two kids that were Very far gone by the time she got there, right? She that Bell could not be unrung Gary book her for my podcast. That's what I want. I want Adam stepmom

Seriously, I was looking at you for approval now Contact number. Yes, I won't do anything Just just I really get the story from her perspective be very interesting to see how she I didn't I didn't have Hold on. I agree with you. Hold on a second. I didn't I Was only with her for a few short years. She would have some interesting on promise I had talked to her I don't give no, but listen, listen, it would not be to humiliate you I know I don't care about me. It, but listen, listen, it would not be to humiliate you, it would be really to flush out the story. I don't care about me, it's kind of more about her.

But I, at your wedding, had a really nice conversation with her. She was delightful. I don't think she has fond memories about that, shut up, about that portion in her life, especially as it pertains to my sister. I won't bring her up, that's fine. Well if you want me to, I will. I'm saying you tell me you set the guidelines, but I would disagree with you because she,

I had the conversation with her wedding, and she was like, no, Adam was delightful, and she has a whole different take on it. I didn't, listen, listen to me. I was not delightful, she was not delightful. She was not delightful She was better than anybody that my family had to offer her because the bar was set so low I think I think her and my dad were going through a little had some issues sure at the at the time I don't have bad memories of my step. No, I know that I Was fine. I was fine.

I was fine with her. I was, you know. And they divorced eventually? That you had your mom and your stepmom and your dad? Or they still? They still get her. My stepmom, no, she was not kicking me out of the house as a service to me.

She was basically got saddled with a couple of kids that were either running away or not going to college or sort of hanging around and smoking pot. But when I got a job, it was time to move out. Remind yourself, these people, your dad, and your, is that my, what, in the early 40s probably at this time? I mean, they're trying to get on in life,

you know what I mean, they're struggling. Yeah, no, later 40s probably, but either way, they were ready to move on in life. Let's go back to the primal scream, I wanna go back to that. Well we gotta find out what years those were. 78, I'm putting my money on 78. No, I think it's earlier.

Okay, but here's the deal, if I picture your step-dad, if I picture him, and then you put a series of associative words there, if you put one at the last, the very bottom, I'd put Primal Scream at the bottom. Yes. That'd be the last thing I'd put associated with him. That's right.

This would be him and his Primal Scream. Are we done? Yeah. Are we done yet? Yeah. I gotta unlock my tools. Somebody take? Yeah. Can I go on? I gotta unlock my tools. Somebody take my tools. I gotta go unlock them. It's like saying, where's the pope?

Oh, he's out wakeboarding. That's what my stepdad. And Primal Scream. And Primal Scream. Yes, yes. Hope is to wakeboarding as Adam's stepdad is to Primal Scream. Yes. Now, so somewhere when I was about 10, 1970 by the way is when Primal Scream came in. Came in but.

Listen, what do you mean came in? I told you 1974. All right. It was, 1978 was too late for Primal Scream. All right, so they, my dad just moved out and then when I was probably about 10, I could have been 11, I could have been 9. I don't remember, nobody knows, nobody kept dates. One thing about my family is nothing was official and there was no dates and there was no anything.

Nothing initiated, even the ends. Nothing begins, nothing ends. If you ask them any question of when did this happen or when did that happen or when did they graduate or when did they do this? It was like this. I can't remember. That's everything is I can't remember. So and if you ask twice, you'll get some weird words back at you. They won't yell. That's it. That's calorie burner. But they'll just, I can't remember. Don't recall. I can't remember. Don't recall. And that'll... Jodi Arias the fog fog moved in that that'll that'll be it So they drifted my dad and they never got divorced as I said because why first off they never got divorced because divorce is something And and what they did was nothing. No, I initiated and they can't initiate. Yeah, I had a pot, too

No zero. I had a talk initiated and they can't initiate. Did you smoke a lot of pot too? No, zero. I had a talk, I was talking to Dennis Prager earlier in the week and he was like, what religion did you grow up in? Nothing. He said, well, now you're Italian? I said, well yeah. Well Catholic? I said, no. But what was your family? I said, nothing. I said, well what do you mean nothing? They didn't go to church? That would have been something. They were into nothing. They weren't- It's interesting how he can't understand that. They weren't atheists. Yeah, they were just nothing.

That even being an atheist would have been something. So they were into nothing, or nothing as it pertained to the family. And I suspect that was more common than people Understand in Southern, California particularly out of drifting around a lot of just do your own thing. Yeah, and So, you know you just you'd leave the house at 8 in the morning come home and ate at night and that'd be that you know I mean it never came up now as far as kids go I never wanted to have kids because I thought kids were a tremendous pain in the ass with zero upside.

I saw, I learned from my family that there was zero upside to having a kid. And the reason there was zero upside is because there was never any celebration of anything good that happened with the kid. You couldn't get anything good out of kids, even their success. They could be all city football players,

it wouldn't matter, that's neither here nor there. So if there's no upside, but there is the, hey, could I have a quarter for the ice cream truck downside, then all I had burnt into my brain was, kids are pain in the ass. Because for me, most of my childhood was just me going, hey mom, can you give me a ride to Van Nuys?

And they're going, ah. Every time you start the car, it costs money. You understand? Every time. It's not just gas. And the environment. It's oil. The Indians crying at the roadside.

It's the tires are worn. It's not just gas. And the environment. It's oil. The Indians crying at the roadside. It's the tires are worn. It's not just about the gas, okay? And so I just went, oh, alright, forget it. And I remember just going to my room going, boy, I guess kids are like the biggest bummer on the planet. Like, why would you want these little nuisances that just want money and food? And everything my family had was sort of theirs. You know what I mean? Sincerely, I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that

I'm not going to be able to do that I'm not going to be able to do that I'm not going to be able to do that I'm not going to be able to do that I'm not going to be able to do that I'm not going to be able to do that I'm not going to be able to do that I'm not going to be able to do that I'm not going to be able to do took your stuff and that you'd have to argue with

about how much of your stuff you're gonna get them. So it seemed like a tremendous pain in the ass to me with zero upsets. Has your mother been a good grandmother to your kids? Yeah. Does that redeem, because my dad was an amazing grandfather, it was so redeeming.

I was like, okay, everything's forgiven. You know what I mean? It was like, whatever, shortcomings, I don't care. As long as you do this job right, that's all that matters to me. Oh, well, I don't have a, I don't know, I don't know how to couch it. I don't have a forgive or not forgive.

Well, she might not have done that good a job as a grandmother. If she were a sensational grandmother, you'd be like, okay, I'll take this etch a sketch, just I'm gonna shake it. That's right. I don't, but see, here's the difference that I think maybe you have with your dad or your parents and I have with my dad and or my parents. You have something. Resentments.

Resentment. But there's something meaning, something, meaning your dad did this and then he took it away and then he held this over your head and then he lorded this over you. And yes, he paid for college, but he made sure I knew about it every time I came home for Christmas break. Oh, he didn't. I had nothing with my parents. I don't know them. I don't have any relationship with them. I don't they're they're neither here nor there They're they're zero. They don't exist to me I mean they exist in that they they're these two elderly people that live in the valley somewhere who I try to try to be nice To but I don't I don't have like oh, I got I got to tell my mom this or I got to tell my dad I'm doing the Tonight Show dad's gonna want to be there. You know, I'm doing the Toyota Grand Prix He's gonna oh, he's gonna be up in those grandstands. Like, I don't have, and then we don't have a moment. It's not like.

Which is sad because. It'd be the most boring movie on the planet. What you miss with that is that you miss joy. Because positive affects are mutually enhancing. You know, we elevate each other's appreciation of things by elevating one another. Like if you, Sunny does something really good and you go, that's awesome, because I know it's awesome, and you together amplify these positive affects, you miss that too. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So I don't have- The range of feelings, that's why you're dead inside. Right. I don't have to pay them back. You guys don't have to pay them back. You guys don't find that funny? I don't have to rekindle. There's nothing to kindle or rekindle.

This thing of like, can we patch it up? Can we come together and bury? I know we've had our differences. We didn't have differences. I got born, I left, that's that. They got born, they left, that's that. Maybe that's why you get so matter of fact about your vision of things.

You don't have a feeling about it. You can look at things without feeling. I can look at almost everything with zero feeling. Thank God you have a, and I've always talked about this before, but you have a moral compass from somewhere. Thank God that's acute, because if you didn't have that, you'd be dangerous

they gave me a moral compass, which is Not really a moral compass, but a lot of Why should you have this and the other person not have that yeah, why should you? Cut in line. Why should you I mean it was a very, they worked very hard at Breaking you down. Right, so I have a, if there's, you know, a sandwich to be cut in half, you will pick. I would not be fair to me to cut the sandwich and then for me to pick. But somehow that translated into cleaning up so that people don't have to deal with it.

You know what I mean? You think of other people don't have to deal with it. You know what I mean? You think of other people and usually that's a feeling thing. How would somebody feel having this? You don't have that. You just have the compass part. I would never... Listen, when I go...

Like I said, when I play a theater, when I leave the dressing room, I shut the lights off in the dressing room just to save the theater the electricity because they don't need the lights on in my dressing room. Right, not because it would give somebody a, it would make somebody happy or give somebody a negative feeling if you left them on, it's just, that's just the code. I cannot ask people to do things for me for free essentially or whatever but I'll work it both ways but they taught, taught's not the right word but it was instilled in me quite often. You are not special, you don't deserve anything more than the next guy and how would you feel if you were the next guy and somebody ate the bigger portion of

the sandwich? So when people, so when you have an opinion and it's say it includes issues of race or socioeconomic evaluations and people then accuse you of being rich white guy and blah blah blah, do you have any feelings about that? Well, I did grow up with what I call white privilege, as you know, in a series of shit boxes with crappy VWs. No, I understand. You know what I mean? in a series of shit boxes with crappy VWs. No, I understand. You know what I mean?

No, I don't have, I just have opinions on problems. I don't really focus, I don't work that much of me into it. But people attack you lately. Yes. Yeah. And do you have a feeling about that? Well, I know what they're doing and they know what they're doing. No, I think they're coming from a feeling place and it's irrational sometimes and you

make them feel a certain way and then they attack. Yeah, yeah. Or either way. And you don't feel anything back except you must. Well, I don't like when somebody, I'll put it to you this way. I, if I said to, you know, if I said to somebody, hey, your wife got a new haircut, and that's all I said, and then you went, then somebody went to her and said, Adam said you have a horrible haircut,

and then she felt bad about it. I don't like them misrepresenting what I'm saying. I don't like the inaccuracy part of what they're saying. I don't like me saying men are funnier than women, being twisted into women aren't funny. I don't like me talking to Gavin Newsom about potential solutions for why the check cashing places are filled with black and Hispanic folks as me hating black and Hispanic folks when in fact I'm looking for a solution to correct that problem.

But I don't like that. I don't like that. It's not a feeling. Oh, okay. Well, I... And it's interesting. I'm listening carefully to your language. I don't like it, meaning it's the opposite of liking.

It doesn't feel... It's not that it makes me feel bad. No, it doesn't feel good. I do feel it. Okay. I don't feel it as much as you would feel it Right. I feel I think I feel excessively which is excessively everything is it's a percentage thing It's it's like you got your hernia surgery

It have it hurt a lot of it. Yes, quite a bit. I got hernia surgery. It was was mildly uncomfortable for four hours. And then I was hanging doors. I remember that. Now, did I feel it? Yeah, I felt it. I had surgery but it was uncomfortable. But it wasn't excruciating. For you it was excruciating. So when somebody goes on, you know, when these posts, when they go on the internet and call me a racist, I feel it. It's not excruciating. And it's not enough. And I think I get anxiety attached to it too. I get anxious and I'm painful. It's not enough, most importantly to all the assholes out there who are going to twist my words around, when by the way, you're doing nothing, as I shouted,

you are perpetuating the problem by trying to silence me and then filling that void with a big fat zero. You're doing zero, you're successfully getting people like me to shut up, although it won't work with me. I have a pirate ship and no nerve in it, so it will not work with me. I have a pirate ship and no nerve in it, so it will not work with me. But you're very successful at getting people to shut up. You're not so successful at providing solutions to a problem that is costing hundreds of lives a year, thousands of lives a year.

And misery. And misery. And countless. Countless misery, Untold misery. That, you're, the silence is deafening in that department, in the solution department. Oh, well, you do have some solutions, which is racists like me should kick over more money for your plans that clearly haven't worked in 30 years. That's your plan. But other than that, you have no real solutions.

Gavin Newsom had zero solutions and 23 minutes of questioning. He just kept going around the same park. It was like a snake eating its own tail on a potter's wheel talking to that idiot about this problem. Now, he's not dumb. I mean I had a conversation with Dennis Prager about this. He said is Gavin Newsom, does he believe what he's saying? And I said no he doesn't believe what he's saying. And he said I think he believes what he's saying. And I said no

he doesn't believe what he's saying. He's not saying anything. Well number one he's not saying anything. So what's he saying? All he's doing is telling me I'm wrong 25 different ways. But he's really good. That's a politician too. He's not saying anything. Number two, he's a highly educated man who's looked at charts and graphs and numbers, I'm sure all throughout his education and understood pie charts and graphs and statistics. He's not He's not stupid. He's lying. He's a liar He you can call it what you want evading the question avoiding the truth avoid. It's Falls with politics under the heading of lying. Yes, that's what he does. He's lying He doesn't believe what he's not saying and he's certainly not going to send his kids to any of the

schools he talks about and he's certainly not going to solve the problem. So he doesn't believe it. He's a liar. But that's fine. That's a politician. That's what he does. Trying to get votes. All right. Let's give a little love to one of our Fine Fine sponsors. Drew, you do something for a change. I'm tired of doing all the heavy lifting around here. Why does he always get... Oh, yeah. Go to meeting, guys. With colleagues. You can go to meetings from different offices, traveling,

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Question about pedophiles. Yeah. You know, I have my pedophile... Island. Island. Pedophile aisle. Yeah. Yeah, I have that. There's molestation, Pedophile Isle. Yeah, have that. There's molestation, what do you like? Oh, we're not gonna break?

No, we're selling. All right, Pedophile Isle. All right, we'll take a quick break. The question is what, Drew? How should you, how do you think pedophiles should be punished? Well, Pedophile Isle. We'll answer that right after this. to watch and bet on games as they happen with the largest selection of odds on

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It was fine. Enthusiastic. Listen. It passed the the test. The streak test. Well, as you know know door shut means occupied now this is in it look if your bathroom at work has a pneumatic closer on it then it's always going to be shut I'm not counting the one at the airport I mean

if you have this is more for home use or small business use. Door shut, occupied. Door wide open. Have at. Have at it. Door ajar with fart fan on, enter at your own risk. But I think they, I thought they adulterated that a little bit, because I entered at my own risk, no evidence. Here's the problem. I don't know what the sufficient time is to clear a

bathroom once someone like the porcelain punisher had gone in there. Yeah. Gentlemen, arrange that. We actually have a fan submitted piece of art that I'm going to put up on the screen for you right now. It's the Corolla Digital Bathroom Safety Categories. Okay. But we've found that we've discovered a new category.

I don't know what, but I don't know how, what the CF, I don't know what the CFM is on that fan and how much it can clear what Matt knows is the situation right now. Oh, look at this. Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm.

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It's online. We'll post this. Oh my God, it's funny. Yeah. All right. All right. Let's talk to Javi. Javi?

Oh, God. Hey, Adam. What's going on, Javi? I was kind of blown away a few weeks ago when I saw this'd be a documentary called maximum a culpability by alex give me who also directed the yes p n steve bartman documentary

and he talked to the the documentary focuses on priest that were targeting kids uh... for sexual abuse at schools for the death uh... particularly kid that abuse at schools for the deaf. Wow. Particularly kids that, deaf kids who had parents that could hear that weren't deaf, because they were just more vulnerable. And in the 70s or something like that, there was one priest who was trying to do research and fix the problem, and he found out that every time that a priest would go to a rehab facility and they put him

back out there the incidences of abuse would just happen again so this guy literally got the Vatican to put down a down payment on an island in the Caribbean I've heard about this to put all the put all the priests there because he he had basically concluded that we can't keep putting them out there but we can't turn our back on the meter. Let's put them on an island where they could just kind of stay there forever and live out their days and not be with any more children. There was almost... Pedophile. Yeah, take a beat. Now there's a couple things. One is, you know, one thing

I've learned from watching Pepe on is there's a place called Devil's Island. It'd be ironic if you sent them to Devil's Island, French Guiana. More than ironic. Yeah, not that much more. All right, also we were discussing the PEDF-O versus PEDF and somehow through Bill Simmons and one of his listeners, we decided that the island, it would be a better story for PEDF Island if there was a General Petiff, IF, whose island was named after World War II General.

Sergeant Petiff. They wouldn't name it for stuff. I just said General Petiff. Oh, General Petiff, bigger part. Right, they wouldn't name an island after Sergeant. Fair enough. You barely get a buoy named after you. General Petiff, and then it became Petiff Isle. That's a better story. It's not quite on the

nose, you know what I mean? It makes sense that way. All right. So they did, and look, Drew, I don't know how you cure someone. And I say cure, but they, you know, we were talking on the last show, or one of our shows, about, you know, being a woman trapped inside a man's body, or man trapped inside, we've decided that's a legitimate circumstance now. Look, you like kids, you like kids. Right, you're a man caught in a body that likes kids.

That's, well, look, I mean, as I've said, once we, I brought it up, and you know, some of my friends in the gay and lesbian community are not gonna be happy, but what I'm saying is, once you say, hey, here's what I'm into, and I- You're like trying to cure you of the big jugs. That's right, can't do it. Impossible. No.

Impossible. Or you are Tess's ass. That's right. Can't do it. Impossible. No. Impossible. Or you are Tess's ass. My wife. My wife. The point is this. This is who you are.

Yeah. This is, I mean, society can look down on it all at once, but that's who you are. No, that's wired in. We're not changing you. It's wired in, and it's probably wired in at certain developmental stages and ages and whatnot, and it's wired in at certain developmental stages and ages and whatnot, and it's wired in. Now, it can be dealt with just like addiction is wired in, but it requires daily management, okay? It requires somebody on it every day, and it does improve with time and with certain management and certain...

Yeah, but... Listen, these guys want to go out and be priests again, not spend their days working on their pedophilia. In a certain amount of denial, God will take care of it, whatever. It's, uh, look, but you know, it is one of those things where, you know, no booze, no heroin, no whatever, but this is no sex. Oh, but you can have sex or you can be intimate, but just not with what you want. But that's hard with heroin, you know what I mean? You're telling people, no, it's more of an eating disorder. All right, anyway, I'm for the island thing

because I don't know what the fuck else you're gonna do with these guys, and they don't wanna be cured, and the system they're in doesn't wanna recognize the problem. That's the bigger problem. The system wants God to take it away, and God can be a part of the solution.

It can't be all the solution. Interesting that a lot of folks on the left would look at this problem and attempt to fix this problem, but not attempt, want to know why this problem isn't being addressed, looked at, brought out into the light and fixed. But when I bring up certain other problems to Gavin Newsom, folks on the left not so interested in

that having light shed on it. Kind of interesting, interesting. Whatever serves your needs. That's right. Jacob? Hey, sorry. So a couple days ago I found out I was molested. I had like a weird kind of rape flashback thing was falling asleep and Called my mom asked her about it and and she said And I had not heard about this until this point She said when I was to a babysitter exposed herself to me and possibly put his penis in my mouth. Okay.

Mm-hmm. No tip, I'm not tip of the penis, but no tip for babysitter. She probably got one. That night. You know what I mean? Like if it's a buck an hour, normally just give them 10 bucks.

In that case, once I hear that story, no tip, just seven bucks. Straight away. No motion. Just a compass. Just a moral compass. I could tell by the way my mom didn't tell me and the way she kind of reacted,

like she told me she didn't want me, she thought it'd be traumatic to have me go to trial and have the guy prosecuted. Well, you were two. What could you possibly have offered at trial? Like a draw dinosaur with a fucking crayon? I mean, you're two. That's kind of a weird place to go with this.

But, well, listen. I'm sorry. I was going to say, think of the motivation of the kid that does that to a two-year-old. I mean, you know you're into some weird realm where there's this cool. How old was this individual? They said like 13 or 14. Yeah, teenager. It sounds like a real messed up teenage thing.

All right, Jacob? Well, Jacob, it doesn't have to destroy you. You're probably in pretty good shape. You sound in pretty good shape, are you? Well, the thing is, I feel like it had kind of a profound effect on me. I've always had relationships and kind of sexual issues. I'd always get really nervous before sex. I don't know.

I'm not Jacob. This is you going at yourself. I really do. Everyone has, 91% of people have some sort of issue about sex. So you're saying, hang it on this, maybe a mistake. Let's hypothesize it is this. So what? Whether it's not this. Whether it is or not, you need to get over this, you need to manage your feelings. There's

no reason this has to shatter you. It really does. I believe it could create feelings, it could have sexual dysfunction, but you should be able to function interpersonally and that should find you out. That should find your way out. I don't know if this happened on multiple occasions or not. I'm really, this whole like what you can do to a two-year-old to ruin their life, I do believe it's the system, your family system, the society you're growing in. Yeah, the chronic stuff is very important.

Yeah. So if this was a one-time thing, Jacob? Yeah. If it's a one-time thing, then get over it. And you're in good company. I believe that Leonardo da Vinci was sexually abused in that manner. I saw the drawings. He had, well he had a lot to, if you really look at his drawing,

he had lots of weird drawings of Cs with Ds. You know, angels with dicks, they're holding up their, if you really look at his sketches, they're very bizarre sexually. Cs with Ds. Yeah, they're like, these sort of female looking figures, they're holding their gowns up. Chicks with dicks.

Yeah, chicks with dicks. All right, sorry. What's going on with the kids these days? It's really interesting. And he had a recurrent nightmare about a crow coming up to him and putting its tail in his mouth. Ooh. Right?

And he had- Nevermore. Ron Artest crow? No, please. That's my Ron Artest. Stop it. It's my MetaWorld piece. And he had a teenager in the house who apparently was like insane when he was growing up, a

step kid or something. And this teenager was caught with the baby of multiple occasions. Listen, I don't know how this stuff didn't happen to everybody back then. There's no courts. It didn't even acknowledge that it happened. It wasn't even, I mean, look, that, you know, as I've said, if you're into pun tang, no better time than mid-coke pre-aids, you know, in terms of getting laid, you know, 1977,

whatever, those years. But if you're into, you know, goofing with kids, Renaissance, no better time. I know it's been said before. Many times. And you've all seen the license plate frames and things like that. But no better time because there's no courts, there's no nothing. I mean you could get shot in the back of the head with a musket ball if some dad caught you doing it. But lots of room in those spacious castles, lots of, no nanny cams back then.

Although Leonardo was probably working on one. He invented one. He foresaw it. Hey, Matt. Oh, let's see. I'm trying it. There it is. Matt, what's going on

Matt from Minneapolis 27 Indianapolis, Indiana man, what's up? Oh, all right. What's going on? Having some questions about moving across the country with my girlfriend and I have a three-year-old and that's seven months old with all right Two girls that we said his girlfriend is seven months old and a three-year-old or some yeah, what's question? Just kind of It's phone lines bad, it's bad cell phone all right. Let's just take our last call. Talk to David, let me tell you before we do that, let me talk about tax resolution services. Do you owe the IRS over $20,000?

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You're 47. Can you get on a phone? You sound like you're on speaker. I can barely hear you. Can you do that? Oh, yeah. Okay, there we go. So you're 47.

How old is your wife? She's 42. 42. The thing about 40 and 50 year old borderlines is they usually get better then. A lot of the borderline traits settle down. Now borderlines also have a very poor prognosis in that they die young, but if should they survive their condition,

they die of suicide and depression and accident, they get themselves in crazy situations, they get drug addictions, but should they survive their condition, they die of suicide and depression and accident, they get themselves in crazy situations, they get drug addictions, but should they survive their condition, a lot of their symptoms often settle down towards their 50s for whatever reason and people debate why, but she is getting worse, is that right? Well, it's hard to say. She's been hostile for the 17 years I've known her and my question is kind of along the line. Hold on a second, does it sound like he did anything differently? for the 17 years I've known her. And my question is kind of along the lines of... Hold on a second.

Does it sound like he did anything differently? No, he's gotta pick the phone up. Is he, but is he not doing it after you asked him to do it? Or is there a situation there, David? No, no, no, I'm not sure what's going on. Are you speaking into a phone? Yes. I'm speaking into a cell phone.

Okay, sounds like you're in a bathroom or something. Like with trash cans. Well, I'm in a focus room at work, so there's probably a lot of echo. Okay. All right. Fair enough. So... So she's... it's always been a hostile environment, you know, swearing and... she's just hostile to me and the children. It's always been that way. Okay, and then let me just... I'm gonna interrupt you as you tell the story, because unregulated hostility, and everybody think about what hostility is. It's not just anger. No, Adam's not hostile.

No, huh? And unregulated hostility is a characteristic of borderline. So at least you're describing somebody with what we call borderline features or borderline traits. So go ahead. Okay, so yeah, there's a lot of common traits among many of the personality disorders. Yeah, that's right. So the thing is that it's always been a

hostile environment you know she's just screaming at me and swearing and you know the kids have basically grown up seeing their dad you know with head hung low getting yelled at you know I don't I don't want to exaggerate 50% of the time let's say okay and's miserable, she's always been miserable, she just kind of checks out, she's uninvolved. Basically we avoid her as much as possible. Here's the problem though, about every six months, and it seems like it may be happening a little sooner,

I'm kind of getting my wits in and all blow back at her. And this happened two weeks ago, and I start just going, fuck off, you know, and I just lost my fucking mind. And I was like, fucking, yelling, I fucking hate you. Anyway, I heard my 15-year-old in the other room crying, it's like, god damn it, they can't handle if I lose it, because I'm not supposed to lose it. That's what they call it.

You're holding it together. Right, you're holding it together. So, here, okay, here's one quick question. What do I do? I got six years till they're out of school house, and if I leave her those, she will use them as a tool and destroy them. Yeah, no, listen, listen, I'm glad you're in therapy. Is she using any substances? That's the big question here. Alcohol? Well, she's been, she's taken handfuls of drugs for about the last nine years. Lately, she's been doing acupuncture. Oh yeah drinking well not not excessive drinking but yeah we have well Adam would say it's not excessive you would say it was excessive. Okay so so but then I

gotta tell you. Might I suggest some Mangreta Mello? The one thing I want you to oh Jesus the one thing I want you to remember maybe for the 15 year olds but not the adults but one thing I want you to remember though is obviously I'm, people will go I can't believe you said that, I really get that shit. No, five-man-grey-decker. One thing I want you to keep in mind is that drug addicts and alcoholics have, present with personality features that look like personality disorders, borderline sociopaths, cluster B diagnosis, narcissistic disorders disorders and when you treat the addiction the personality stuff goes

way down so think in terms of whether there's an addiction or alcohol problem here that might be addressed or might be getting this. David here's all I can worry about is is it for you know what's here here's all kids being therapy yes everybody never allow that all right listen to me David here's all kids being therapy yes everybody never allow that all right listen to me David here's what you've here's what's gone wrong with

this relationship you guys have become you know Yankees fans and Red Sox fans and Hatfields and McCoys this has gone on so long that there's her side and your side and it's a dynamic now. I need you and you don't you don't need a therapist for this. I need you to get her on a good day and I need you to sit down with her. I need you to say look you and I have had our differences and and and there's tension and I'm not saying who's right and who's wrong. There's tension and I'm not saying who's right and who's wrong there's tension we have kids and We want to make an environment that's as good as we can for those kids So they don't resent both of us for the rest of their natural lives

Let's try to strive for that together and I mean together I want to do what I can do to help that process and I want you to do what you can do and I'm not asking you be different and be miserable I'm saying be different and be happy and I'm gonna do the same thing. You got one shot at this life let's really see what we can do to enjoy our environment, each other, our family, our kids. It's flying past us. Well, let me put a cut... Adam, I've never seen a day like that, were there to be honest.

Well, no, let me put... There's never been a day where you have a lucid conversation. Well, if she... Listen, it can't be that. Better you be out of there. If she literally cannot sit down sober with a cup of herbal tea Yeah, no way. and have a discussion that's free of baggage from the past,

that includes a lot of that is your feelings, David, that just says no baggage in this room. We're closing the door, etch a sketch, put in the paint can shaker. Now, from this day forward, how can we move on with this family and create as good an environment as we can for each other, for each other personally, and for our kids as well? Another way to look at that is to say something got us into this relationship. There was some passionate connection that maybe we can find that's-

No, she got pregnant. I blew on her stomach and she shoved it inside her and got pregnant David you are first off the world's worst ambassador for this plan I'm trying to enact David David David then you must get divorced post-haste because you have zero faith in her ability and I have little faith in your ability for you two to ever sit down and have a civil conversation. Even if it's the love of your kids, something you find some common ground. You called us with a problem. We tried to give you a solution to this problem from five different angles and you rejected everyone. So you have no

intention of correcting this problem because according to you it's not correctable. So I'm not even sure. I don't think then I I'm sorry. We've wasted eight minutes of your life If you know what I meant was do I leave now? Yes If you if you've decided that this is a course that can never be corrected and You know better than we do. Yeah, if that's the God's honest, then you need to start making some plans to get out of there That's that's it now. I Now I would argue or even beg you to try to step out of it and look at it from a different angle and try the conversation. Maybe in a therapist's office, maybe on the foot of the bed. But if you're

telling me there's zero chance for this ever working because she's so far gone, and I understand there are people out there that are like that, then it's time for you to walk away. All right. Speaking of that, speaking of walking away. It is time for us to walk away. Yes. We are going to be doing some shows coming up, and we got one in Vegas, we got one in Salt Lake City, we got one in Redondo got one in Salt Lake City we got one in

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