The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Podium of Narcissism (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)
Episode Date: December 23, 2024Adam and Drew discuss the narcissism in our society and Adam shares portions of his recent Gavin Newsom interview with Drew. They also recount stories from their recent performance in Denver....
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Yeah get it on got to get it on no choice but to get on man they get it on
what's going on there Dr. Drew? I got to get it on. I'm in a shitty way. Oh see
that I fell off this chair mm-hmm spilled my coffee. That's my coffee
This coffee well, I you provided that you provided. Yeah, it's mine Yeah, and then while cleaning up made a bigger spill not well Drew's
The thing that's funny about Drew
It's actually pretty good metaphor for
life for our life for our society
metaphor for life, for our life, for our society. Drew is built. He's got guns on him and he's got a very sturdy build. I have very skinny arms and thus I don't look nearly as athletic
as Dr. Drew but I can hit a softball 200 feet farther than he can hit a softball. Now, anybody
ever looked at you swing a softball bat,
they'd laugh hysterically, and I crushed a ball.
Because I'm all arms, and you swing with your body.
Whatever you are, you look like a,
like you're built like an action figure.
I am a puss.
Well, you're Raggedy Andal when you get to the plate.
But the point is, is our society does way too much looking
and not enough watching or
listening or something.
Now Drew's wildly uncoordinated.
Not wildly, I but have flippers for arms a lot of the time.
You can't control your own appendages other than that.
When I'm tired, I'm tired right now so they just flip around.
Yeah, you're a ballerina.
Other than that.
So you literally, he can't stop punching microphones and knocking over coffee cups
And by the way, my armors like Jerry West they like go down to my knees right long too, which is yeah
I have that I have that as well
But so no control over his physicality speaking of physicality
Jesus Christ, right? What we you know, we flew southwest with Howard
on It was like We flew Southwest with Howard.
It was like, listen, Southwest seats are built
for 150 pound men slash women. I always think about it where they go,
well, I always think, well, the average guy's like 5'10",
170 pounds or something, so that's a seat.
But no. Not anymore.
Well, A, not anymore, but B, they make those seats for the average man slash woman because the flights it's not an old dude flight
It's not called sausage fest air. It's just called sausage West sausage
Drew he used up his one joke. It's it for the year and I by the way I
Prompted I got you started down that joke,
Sausage West. So it's not just Sausage West. So the seats aren't big. And me and Mike August got
into one and then Howard packed in. It was all three of us on the flight out to Denver to do the
show. And it was like, this was, when we heard Howard was flying to Denver, we thought, oh no, not Southwest,
not in the seat next to ours.
Nothing personal, but you want the smallest, you know what you want?
You want a miniature Asian wearing one of those masks like they do.
The sleeping mask?
No, the mask.
Oh, the mask for the TV.
Yeah, the one over their mouth.
Right.
And you know what's weird? I love the Asians so much, except for Max Pata.
But he's not one of the good ones.
But the thing is this, I love the Asians so much because somebody told me, I was like,
wow, man, they're so paranoid about getting disease.
And someone said, oh no, the sick ones wear that so they don't spread it to the other people.
And I was like, oh, so a hessian of them.
Yes, so considerate.
Our guys.
I was, as I was speaking of considerate, I was recounting yesterday with, last night,
the other night with Mike Lynch, which is, now Drew, you never heard this story.
It's not possible.
No, it is.
It's happened pre-post-you, but picture this.
I'm always obsessed with narcissism.
And I'm obsessed with the small tells of narcissism.
I'm not interested in the guys that are running the,
you know, OPEC nations who have huge pictures
of themselves painted on billboards outside the airport.
Cartoon narcissist can, we can leave alone.
I understand they exist.
Those guys exist.
I like the people that are posing as civilians.
And it turns out they're crazed narcissists,
but they don't know it.
So let me just get this right. So it's not just narcissistic liabilities that we all have.
You want to people who present as one thing, but in fact are another.
No, they just, they live amongst us as regular folks who would, you know, do the thing where
if you know, you were pulling into a parking space, they go no no you go first or I'll hold the door for you they're civil they're educated
they come from decent families but then there's just little tells okay see what
I'm saying got it so I'll give you I'll give you two like for instance but you
tell me where they where they rank or how this feels to you. And tell me how far out of bounds I am, if at all.
I showed up into my studio about a year and a half ago. And next door, next door. And I looked down
and there was a dog. And that dog was a top a pillow that used to be on the sofa
was atop a pillow that used to be on the sofa that I would broadcast from.
And I said, why is my sofa pillow on the floor
and then why is somebody's dog on it?
And Brian said, it's my dog.
And I said, was the pillow on the floor?
And he said, no, I want a pillow for my dog.
I thought, well, can't your dog sit on the carpet?
And they said, well, I went on a pillow.
I said, she took the pillow off of my sofa and put on the floor and then put your dog on it?
Yeah. Right there. That conversation is the tell more than the pillow. There should have been a lot
of backpedaling right away as opposed to, yeah, yeah, that's my dog, my pillow. Well, not his
pillow. But I'm just saying. Yeah. I claim it for that. Oh, yeah. No, that's my dog, my pillow. Well, not his pillow. But I'm just saying, I claim it from that.
No, that's a narcissistic disorder,
or at least what you call a towel.
A towel.
At least a, even a closet narcissist would have gone,
oh, oh, I didn't think, I didn't think, I'm sorry.
Well, but you wouldn't, you didn't get caught
doing anything, you're doing it in my studio
and I'm going to walk in in a matter of moments
to do my show.
So I didn't bust into your room and see you counting my money, this is my studio, you
know I'm going to enter sooner or later.
But you never give people that beat of, I didn't think about it, I did it automatically,
I didn't think.
Well, that's part of the narcissistic disorder.
Absolutely, I totally get it, but even then when you put somebody who's part of the narcissistic disorder. Absolutely.
I totally get it.
But even then when you put somebody who's kind of narcissistic on notice, they go,
oh, jeez, you got me.
I'm sorry.
I really wouldn't.
I didn't think my narcissism came through.
As opposed to somebody goes, yeah, dog needed a pillow.
Yeah.
Well, that's combative and narcissistic, but it's a disorder.
But Brian's off, I told Brian he was off the hook
because he was now beat out by a new leader
in the clubhouse, which is this story.
You're gonna enjoy this one.
Another one involving their dog.
And by the way, Mike will show the pictures
of Jane Fon and her dog, but can I say this?
And you guys, and Drew, stop me if I'm wrong.
People use their dog as their narcissistic crowbar to beat you over the head with.
It's an expression of their narcissism.
Yeah.
An extension of their narcissism.
Well, what it is is, it's this.
I am me.
This is my dog.
I like my dog.
Thus, I will bring it on the airplanes, in the restaurants, to the podcast, on your pillow,
because it is me and my dog.
Now, you have a dog that you like very much, and I have a dog that I like very much, but
I do understand it's my dog that I like very much. And I have a dog that I like very much, but I do understand it's my dog
that I like very much. It's not...
And he could be a pain in the ass to other people, protect other people from him.
At best indifferent. Or maybe they're allergic to my dog, or maybe their dog is shedding
on someone else's, you know, I, you know, people come to my house, their dog will hop
up on my sofa and they'll just walk right past it. And again, interesting. And people do that with dogs a lot.
Remember Debbie Harry bringing her dog in?
Yeah, you don't-
Do you remember that?
Yes, Debbie Harry.
That was crazy.
You don't need a dog to do a broadcast, a podcast, fly on an airplane or go to a restaurant.
Especially a restaurant.
How dare you, first of all.
Here's the one that-
It's my service dog. How dare you. Here's the one that makes- How dare you.
Here's the one that makes-
The established service snakes are coming too.
Oh yeah.
You and I.
Oh yeah, you.
That's an interesting story.
And then there's Gilligan, my service pelican that I'm going to travel with that I want,
and I need a note from you.
I travel with pelican.
What do you mean?
He calms me down. He's Gilligan. That's my Pelican.
Are you saying it's less good than medication?
People are traveling with goats and pigs and miniature ponies now. I mean, Drew, we have
crossed over.
Literally, society has gotten out of the barn.
Yeah.
And it's turned into a menagerie of barnyard
animals that people travel with. They all came with barn. But we're literally and figuratively out of the barn and I don't
think we can get them back into the barn. That's the problem. So I show up at my
house a couple years back and I walked down to the garage where Jay, Assistant Jay is
feverishly working on one of my exotic automobiles, who I like to travel with.
And I say, I'm just walking around and I look down and I see my cup, my plastic drinking
cup, thick plastic drinking cup.
Now, here's how my life works.
I keep a cup upside down so it doesn't get dusty inside,
on top of the water cooler that's in my garage.
You can see a picture of it.
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Kept a cup on top of my water cooler with your name. Is it your name on it? No, it says don't touch
Here take a
Take a look. Oh my god. Now, let me give you a little a little like the way you even you even plan for it to be upside
Down there by making the writing. Well, let me give you a little little a little way even you even plan for it to be upside down
By making the writing. Well, let me give you a little window into my world. Dr. Drew. Oh, I've had many I see the window at the windows clear to me right walk around squeegeed clean
I walk around with what I like to think of as a system and then I people who I pay follow me around and undo it
I pay them to undo it. Well or follow. That's
their choice. Yeah. No middle ground. I have a cleaning woman who would come to my house,
see the glass that was capsized on top of the water cooler and then bus it upstairs
and put it in the kitchen and put it in the sink every time. And I realized I'm not going
to yell at her because she's doing her
job. I don't know why she can't do the this is a water cooler. This is a glass turned
upside down on top of the water cooler. There's no cup dispenser. So unless the fellow wants
to use his hands or a hubcap or an army helmet about giving some feedback about that because
then people go, oh, well, I'm not doing anything unless you tell me now. Right. Because I'm
afraid and they legitimately they get kind of
scared of you do people are are too stupid to do the
Math where there's a cup on top of a water cooler
That's turned over that's in a garage and there's no other cups to be found and no other
Traffic that comes through there all the people using cups there must be at least
one other only cup on top of the only cooler.
But because it got taken away too many times, and I'd find myself in the garage drinking
out of my hands, I finally got a cup.
This time I took a Sharpie out and I wrote, don't touch.
And I put it on top of the cooler and I told, do not touch this cup.
You told her that?
Yeah, I told everyone that in my house because that's what they do.
They walk around, they unlock French doors, they sweep a balcony off and then they walk
back in, shut the door and then pull the curtain over it but don't lock it.
So then the door remains unlocked and then I go out of town and then about two weeks
later I notice, oh the door to the balcony in the kids rooms have been unlocked for two
weeks.
Awesome.
Thank you.
So then I get nail polish and I start making marks on the door when it's latched in the
latched position.
I take the actual deadbolt, the finger turn on the deadbolt and put red nail polish on
it and then I make a corresponding line on it.
You're losing it in your old age.
I'm not losing it.
Everyone else already lost it and I'm trying to prevent the house.
You can't get it back in the barn.
You can't do it.
Well, I'm going out of town and I have a house with unlocked doors and...
Did it change?
Yeah, it did. I took a year off my life of arguing with people about literally unlocking door, walk outside, you know, empty ashtray, walk back inside, shut door, and walk away.
That's how everyone's wired. Like, not re-lock the fucking door, but anyway. So here's the glass on top of the cooler
down in the garage, and I walk in one day,
and I see this same glass, half full of water,
on the floor, pushed up against the wall, the corner.
If you pull back and show the thing again, see it's on the the ground just sort of up against the wall to the left there and against the door jam sort of yeah
Yeah, and I look at it and I go why is my glass on the floor?
With water with water in it and I said it and drew if you know the answer shut up, please shut up
I didn't know the answer
I know I know you don't know the answer, because if you did, you would just blurt it out
and shit all over my story.
So if it comes to your mind, don't even venture a guess.
You know I have Tourette's, right?
Don't say anything.
I come in, I see the thing on the floor,
and I say, Jay, why is my cup,
my drinking cup on the floor?
Were you drinking out of it? Which I don't care about, because I don't care about germs. Jay, why is my cup, my drinking cup on the floor?
Were you drinking out of it?
Which I don't care about because I don't care about germs.
I'm just curious how it gets onto the floor and against the wall.
And he says, no, I didn't touch it.
I said, you didn't touch it?
And he said, no.
I said, well, who else was down here?
And by the way, what would be their motivation for taking my drinking cup, filling it halfway
with water and then putting on the floor and pushing against the door jamb.
It doesn't make sense to me.
They'd set it on the counter.
They'd set it on a bar stool, a cup, or back on the roof of a car.
Why is it on the floor?
I don't get it.
He said, I don't know.
I don't know.
He said that.
Yeah, he said, I don't know.
I didn't touch it.
I didn't touch it.
I said, Jay, you're the only one who's been down here for the last day or two
How can that's extra good? How does this come to be? Yeah, and he said I
Don't know
Then he paused and he went oh
Your friend John did come by
This not a John, you know friend John came by and I said
Yeah, I still don't get it and he said well
He had his dog with him
Yeah, and he said well he was asking for water for his dog. Oh, I think he must have
Filled it for his dog. Yeah, he is now replaced Matt or was a matter Brian Brian
Oh Brian is not even a he that's not even a podium finish for Brian Brian filled it for his dog. Yeah, he has now replaced Matt. Or was it Matt or? Brian.
Oh, Brian is not even a,
that's not even a podium finish for Brian.
Brian used to stand tall.
At the top, yeah.
The narcissistic podium with his hands held high.
He's now been, oh actually the one fist.
He stood up on the podium like the 68 Olympics.
Like the black guys with the one fist held high.
And now there's a dog.
Now, he's been knocked head down and fist up,
black glove on for narcissists.
He's been thrown off of the podium,
and John now has inherited all three places.
Win place and show.
Do you have a picture of John?
No, I don't think I do, and he's lucky.
You had John the nurse, right?
Is that John? Is that John? Remember I said it's a John you don't know? Yeah, yeah, I'm just think I do, and he's lucky. You had John the nurse, right? Is that John?
Is that John?
Remember I said it's a John you don't know?
Yeah, yeah, I'm just scrolling through your John.
Don't name Johns that you know.
If I say it's a John, you don't know.
We're willing to accept there's more
than one guy named John.
Really?
And possibly dozens you don't know on this planet.
Really?
This is one of them you don't know.
Yeah, he was an architect, or an engineer,
and a nice guy, but obviously a narcissist.
And the thing I like about John,
is John not only puts the cup on the ground
that says do not touch, that is capsized on top of my cooler
so his dog can get a drink, which means
he has major, major, major issues.
Yeah.
And like what I would call a tell.
Yeah.
Not a bad guy.
I mean, not a mean guy, just has narcissistic disorder that's through the roof, obviously.
But left it there.
That's the real disorder because anyone, everyone else is grabbed a cookie from the cookie jar
But what you do is you take the cookie jar and you make it look you you know
You point it back on the shape that it was you know I'm saying like if you hide it you cover it up if you go to
So you have a little more respect for him for just?
Leaving it out there respect is not the word. I'm secretly envious
Yeah, but it's not respect. I completely and utterly disrespect it,
but I do wish I had one-tenth of that.
No, what I mean is like when you pinch a couple Valium
from somebody's medicine cabinet,
you take two, if you take 10, they'll notice.
You take two and then you turn the label back
sort of in the direction it was facing
so they don't know someone's been messing with it.
Cover it up.
Don't bust it open and just throw it on the counter top.
Leave it spilled open on the counter top.
Right.
He let his dog drink out of my cup and then when he was done, it was time to leave.
Well, he's done.
That's my point.
He was done. Now the dog thing is a physical manifestation of this crazed narcissism that we're all
entering into and it's got to the point where, like I said, you're not going to fly without
a dog on your flight.
Jane Fonda, I saw her leaving a restaurant like, you know, Mastro's or whatever,
some popular place in Beverly Hills,
and she doesn't travel without her dog,
because God knows she's a narcissistic bitch of a mess.
But you're walking into restaurants with your dogs now?
No, listen.
That's not like a tea, you know, a tiny little shawarma.
It's a decent sized dog.
It's a Westshire terrier.
There's a lot of follicles there.
But here's what I'm saying to you, Drew.
Yeah.
Dog at the park, fine.
Dog at the beach, fine.
Although it's illegal to bring your dog on the beach
in Los Angeles.
Stand point.
No, no.
I'm gonna talk to you about a point. That point is point
doom in Malibu and there's a walking trail at the end and it's a beautiful
beautiful some of the nicest stretch of coastline that Southern California has
to offer but when I want to walk it with my wife and kids Molly is forbidden
from walking on the trail that I pay for with my tax dollars
although I can bring a dog on any flight and if you're Jane Fonda you can walk in
a fucking restaurant where people are eating. Oh my god there she is on flight
with the same dog. Is that even the same dog? Yes Drew. She, not that, okay. That's crazy. What if it was a
different dog? Well that's even dead that's even the little bit no
It's more bizarre than she has to like I'm my flying dog. I'm a restaurant dog and they all kind of look alive
It's bizarre. It looks like a different dog. It looks mildly lighter
It looks like the same dog to me. That's
That drank a little Clorox, but here's my point drew. Yeah
That drank a little Clorox, but here's my point Drew. Yeah.
Look like same dogs, just different color.
Yeah, the lighting is different.
Okay, so here's the deal Drew.
Dogs in the restaurant, fine.
And the restaurant, you know what people do in a restaurant?
They eat.
They go out to enjoy themselves and sit down and consume food and you're sitting in the
next booth with your dog?
That is going to take away from my night, my pleasure, because dogs have dander and
dander and hair and air conditioning and circulated air and stuff.
What's floating around on that dog?
And I'm not a germ freak.
I'm a narcissist freak.
You are going out to eat a fucking meal, Jane fucking Fonda.
You're going out to a very high end steakhouse in Beverly Hills.
Can you not go out without your dog?
I mean, now listen, I understand, ironically, it wouldn't be permitted,
but you're going to be in the dentist chair getting a root canal for two hours.
Okay, maybe you want your dog on your lap in that instance because you're in a lot of
pain and discomfort and whatever.
You can't go out to Mastro's and have a $110 steak and a nice bottle of Pinot Noir for
two hours that night without your dog.
You can't enjoy yourself without your dog. I don't understand why Akhmed Dinejad and people like that don't focus on this.
Like, you want to know what's going on over there?
Want to raise a little money for terrorism?
Yes.
Here's who they are.
From your mouth to Allah's ears.
But isn't that, you know what I mean?
Yes.
That's why they hate us.
Of course they should.
They don't even know how bad it is.
We're fucking flying and bitch, you're on an airplane and it's like, hey I I like my dog good, but I don't like your dog, and there's a bunch of other people on this airplane that are flying first-class
What's up, Drew?
Listen I've been worried about this for a long time wrote a book about it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's concerning
All right, I don't know where it's going. I don't know where it's going. I don't I don't see the trajectory
going any not go it's not going anywhere and
Speaking of that, so I wanted to get your take on
on on a guest I had
I've had Gavin Newsom on the last the other week and as a lieutenant governor of California and
my fear is
that Tony Velar who basically ran this city into the ground for eight years is
now gonna move on and run the state into the ground as governor of California
he's wild he's just a wildly he's just a stupid guy and I think he has a personality disorder but really what he's got is a ten cent head like he's just a wildly, he's just a stupid guy. I think he has a personality disorder,
but really what he's got is a 10 cent head.
Like he's just, if you ever hear Tony Velar speak,
it's just a, like I mean, I don't know,
if it's him or Maxine Waters, like you literally see them
up there going just like, ba, ba, ba.
You know, Obama can speak.
He's a smart guy with a lot of bad ideas,
but he's a smart guy who's trying to go the wrong direction as far as his country goes,
but he's an articulate smart guy. Tony Villar's not a smart guy. He has difficulty with the
language. But you have to stay the course, and if you're Gavin Newsom, you have to back Tony Villar.
And also you have to work on that Hispanic vote.
As a matter of fact, I don't know in the Democratic Party, I don't know what you do with Gavin
Newsom.
He's tall and white.
His dad was rich.
You know what I mean?
There's no room.
We need somebody who's one of us.
And one of us is taking over this this state and yes
We actually have a little clip of new some defending via rego. So hold on a second to Adam
Right. We're stupid gavin. What are we doing? You gotta run for office. You gotta stop complaining
Enough to run for office
I'm not good. Change things. I get via rego to hit me in the head of the snow shovel
Maybe I get down to this level tonio stepped in, in you know he could sit there complaining. He stepped in he stepped into a telemo
Reporter he's working hard. He's working hard. He's doing his best
That's the scary part
He's an idiot. People of LA want him.
Show me.
I mean Tony Villar and
Tony of Vera Ghost.
He's a complete idiot and he's a narcissist.
And he has a personality disorder.
But I don't care about any of that stuff.
He's not effective at all.
Well he is. He's worried about his
constituency.
They're the same person.
Vera Ghost's real name is Tony Villar I did not know that well he
he doesn't brag about that his name is Tony Villar his name is always Tony
Villar but he changed it to Antonio Villa Raghosa why do you think he did that to
appeal to the Hispanic voter huh hmm now Hmm. Now, Gavin Newsom, and you can listen,
help me with this problem.
I didn't even know that, that's fucking crazy.
Well, he graduated, when he was in college,
his name was Tony Villar.
You know, it's not like he changed it in the eighth grade.
Most people go by the same name they go by.
You know, once you get to 20, or 21,
or whenever he got married, you know, once you make it
to 25 years of age, you usually take that one to the grave.
Even guys named, you know, Jimmy, like Jimmy Kimmel, he's going to be Jimmy at 87.
Right.
We're not going to call him James.
But he went first and last.
Anyway, here is, this is Gavin Newsom, and he's talking about the problem and as he sees it the problem are these predatory
Check-cashing places give a listen. I want everybody to plan
Look down the road six months. Yes, your husband lost his job
That's why you need to sock away some money when he's gainfully employed
That's why you need to sock away some money when he's gainfully employed. Yes, they foreclosed on your home.
That's why you need to have a network, a community, friends, family members, money put away.
Don't have the kids.
I got it.
But think about it, half of African Americans in the state of California, roughly half of
Latino families have no access to a checking account or an ATM.
Things we take for granted.
They don't have a check account.
What's wrong with them?
Well, because they don't have the resources to's wrong with them and what but what well because they don't they don't have the resource to suck
those things away why do we have a lot of different reasons but but roughly
half those families don't whether they are meanians have that but where they
end up is my check cashing plan i want to know why those groups take why those
two groups don't have a lot of it just happens to be that we can talk about
flawed
no they're hardly flawed but they're're strong chin actually want to work hardly
not at that point okay so but absolutely asians have this problem
i mean it a lot of communities that a lot of whites have these problems i'll
tell you it's not just black and hispanic no but it but i'm giving a
black and hispanic because the magnitude is ominous for why so many of them
it just happens to be just that's the way god planned it not at all
what happened to there are a lot of issues and with that the communities are struggling a lot of
immigrants a lot of a lot of different reasons all right well that's a
problem solver if I've ever heard one it just is it is true it'd be great if
you're a doc you're a doctor right right hey I have hepatitis C what can we do
about it a lot of people struggle with that right I have hepatitis C. What can we do about it?
A lot of people struggle with that.
Right, but I have hepatitis C.
What are you going to do? It's the way things are. A lot of people struggle with it.
Right, but I have hepatitis C. I want to cure it.
I'm sure a lot of people have hepatitis C. We've got to think about that.
Right, but I have hepatitis C and I'd like to cure it.
Huh?
I want to cure it.
Huh? I'd like to cure it huh I want to cure it huh I'd like to cure my
problem a lot of people struggle with that problem okay well I'm cured nice
work it's a good thing these guys aren't doctors so all he knew was that for some
he didn't know why just for reason, the black and Hispanic families were struggling, but he had no, by the way,
if you don't know why, I need you out.
I don't need people who don't know why.
Now, to be fair to him, he's lying.
I mean, to be fair to Gavin Newsom,
he's, well, stupid or liar is my new game.
Either he's stupid or he's a liar.
Now he's not stupid, so thus that makes him a liar.
But OK.
But here's the deal.
Look, ask me about any of the problems in our society.
Roads, infrastructure, schools.
Go ahead, Drew.
Why are bridges falling apart so much?
There's a lot of bridges.
Why are there so many potholes?
Hold on.
There's bridges, but there's bridges in Kentucky that are falling apart, and bridges that are
in the bridges of Madison County.
That was a good movie.
I like that book.
That was a good book.
Clint Eastwood was awesome in that.
Jeff Bridges was good too.
Yeah, potholes.
Yeah, there's holes.
Some of them have a pot in them. Others don good to it. Yeah potholes. Yeah, there's holes some of them have pot in them others don't
But there's bottles, but what was about what's your question? What you saying our roads? There's something wrong with our roads. Yeah
No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know
He's got a new job. I don't know how to pay managers. I don't know how to fix it. They would make great contractors
Hey, there's fucking hole in the roof Gavin and
It's leaking. Well, what are you gonna do?
Lot of roofs a lot of holes. Everyone's got a roof and holes and holes. Okay
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That's solved so he solves
Now he brings up a problem people with flat roofs, especially have leaks
He recognizes flat roof people have real problems problems with scuppers, there's problems with
parapets, he's gonna look into it. So he brought up a problem. He brought up a
problem. I asked him what the solution was, or why the nature of the problem was, and he
would not address it. Now the reason you have people in public office
is so that they can look at problems, address them, correct them, and fix them
whether they're crime, poverty, whatever pollution, whatever it is that's what our
elected leaders are supposed to be doing. If you're not going to
ask the question why, I don't think we're
ever going to solve that problem. And I don't know why the people who are suffering most
from this problem have decided that he's the guy and they're the people who we need to
lead us. Because I don't feel like there's effective leadership going on when you're
going, huh, what? Yeah, I don't know well a lot of
people no everybody well no no some people that went on for 20 minutes by
the way true that was you heard two minutes there was 20 of that I I did I
did provide an answer for Gavin Newsom would you would you like to hear it? I think you'd be entertained by it.
Scared or entertained?
Well, you're poor, so you'll have to do what you do.
Go ahead, we have a...
I mean, I get your world, Adam, which is a little bit more clean-cut and idealistic,
a little less pragmatic in terms of the world that the rest of us hold on to.
No, it's wildly pragmatic. Stop it for a second.
A little less pragmatic than the guy who will provide
no answers. That's, I don't know, is pragmatic.
What's his up-comers? Does he come from money?
Oh, he says he comes from a broken family except for his dad
was lead counsel for Getty Oil. Right.
So that's what it feels like to me, somebody with money who has...
White guilt. It's called white guilt.
...who studied this stuff versus somebody who was poor like yourself.
He didn't study anything. He's white guilt. He studied his constituency.
But you're a guy who was poor and got out of it.
I don't have the guilt.
Not just the guilt. You have your experience you're calling upon.
He didn't study shit. He doesn't study anything anything he studies the demographics and wants to get elected yeah here we go
with family they have a problem with they don't focus on education that that
will get them out of the problem they're in education I don't think there's any
community cares more about education than the Latino community why don't know
there no Drew there's no community that cares more about education than the Latino community.
That's an interesting statement.
Yeah, but you screwed that up with Prop 186.
What was that where they have to speak and learn English in school?
Yeah.
No.
So, Jew, Japanese, Asian, white, white, they trump all of them.
I did not know that.
You can rewind it a bit because I told him he should take a look at the test scores.
He's not interested in testing.
That's not a yardstick to measure education.
You know that, Drew.
That does feel uncomfortable to me, I got to tell you.
It's uncomfortable because it's true.
I'm not sure that's true.
Oh, go ahead.
Go ahead. No, no, because it's true. I'm not sure that's true. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead.
No, no, because I...
Go.
We'll get them out of the problem.
I'll get you...
I'll solve this problem with you.
Just put them in the top five.
Don't put them at number one.
Okay, okay.
Okay, thank you.
I don't think there's any community that cares more about education than the Latino community.
Wow.
I don't know...
Check those test scores.
No, people...
Come on, that's not fair.
Look at this school.
Checking test scores, not fair?
I know.
Look at the schools.
The schools that you guys have been running into the ground.
You guys have been in charge here.
Those are your schools.
What's going on with those schools?
By the way, those schools are inhabited by
the community that is the most interested in education. So, what? You have an entire
student body filled with kids of an ethnic group that is the most interested in education.
So what? The schools should be a paradise, right? What's he talking about?
I don't get what he's talking about.
Look at this school system.
Look how lousy the system is.
Look how lousy the system is.
I don't care who goes in that system.
It doesn't suck if you have parents that are together and put an emphasis on education.
They care deeply about education.
Care deeply about healthcare.
They care about it.
Okay.
Well then why do some groups do so much better?
I mean, what do you mean by groups?
Almost everybody's struggling in some way or another.
There's a huge difference in academic performance between Asians and Hispanics, yes or no?
There's certainly examples within the Asian community.
Yes or no?
Examples.
Within the Asian community there are examples, Chinese community in particular, other members
of the Asian community, South Korean, Koreans generally, that's generally true.
Okay, agreed.
Why is it true?
You know what, I'm not a sociologist, I'm not someone perhaps you...
Hold on, so he's not there to figure anything out?
What's he there for?
I'm not... listen, I don't know.
First is that's not true. Then there's isolated examples
within Asians within a trip
Right except for it's not isolated examples. It's huge percentage points differences in groups
They don't they'll put one Mexican guy up against one Japanese guy in the game of chess to such which group is smarter. They have
standardized testing and one group
isn't doing as well.
I would like to focus on the group that's not doing as well
and attempt to fix that group and correct that behavior
and have them not wait in line at the check-tashing place.
Here's why I think you're really unfair.
And dig this.
Go ahead.
Dig.
That I think that because the politicians have
run these educational systems so deeply
into the ground that Hispanics who do care deeply about education don't really, it's
like trying to be a shopper in a mall where you don't really know what the products are.
They don't know what, they may not have been exposed to good education so don't know when
their kids aren't really getting what they need to get.
But if the school's 90%...
I'm just...
Think about it.
...Hispanic, why...
And they're deeply interested in education.
They're deeply interested in it, but don't know...
Necessarily have been exposed to it, so don't really know when they're not...
Show up every day, do what the teacher tells you to do, do homework.
Okay, I'm going to say something about your controversy.
But the schools may be populated by people
who came through those systems that they themselves
don't really know, and the politicians are grinding
these systems into the ground further,
so it's sort of a bubble that's self-perpetuate.
Not because people aren't interested
in and really want education.
No, well listen, everybody wants education.
Everybody wants, no, no, no. Everyone wants education, everyone wants education. I think that's his point.
No, no, no.
Everyone wants education, everyone wants prosperity,
everyone wants healthcare, everyone wants no war,
end the war.
But not everyone wants to do what it takes
to get to that place.
But I'm saying some people, this is,
may not understand what's necessary,
because they're not, no one in authority
has led them into it. Yes yes they're not being educated on education
they're not being first they're not being asked to do the things that they
need to do by people like their falls at the politicians fall I think it's the
leaders fault I think that's your point too no it's part it's it's both it's part, it's both. It's a culture that starts down a certain highway and instead of getting in front of
that culture and saying, no, no, no, here's how we're going to do it.
That's leadership.
That's leadership.
You stand back and cheer them on and now they're going at breakneck speed down the wrong highway.
They need to get in front of that and move it a different
direction. There's different cultures.
I blame leaders for that.
Now you have people that are enablers.
Yes. Yes. We're agreeing. I think we're agreeing.
No, we're not. We are agreeing that people like Newsom are worthless and doing nothing.
Are hurting these people. But you're also taking the burden off of the family and putting it into the lap of Newsom.
The answer is an easy answer.
Don't drop out.
Stay in school.
Do your homework.
Keep the families together.
Yes, the school's a piece of shit.
Many schools are pieces of shit.
I've said it many times.
I'll say it again.
I went to a school that had everything.
So I've been through the Petri dish.
We didn't have everything.
The shittiness, you mean?
I went to North Hollywood High, which at the time was just a high school in the valley.
Said it many times.
I had my white friends, Ray and Chris and those guys.
I had my Jewish friends, Nate Wittenberg and Robbie Levine.
I had my Mexican friends, George Espinosa and-
Your Egyptian friends.
I had some Egyptian friends.
I had some Japanese friends and I had the brothers
who were bussed in from South Central,
played Michael Odom, guys like that,
played on the football team with.
By and large, I was to say when everyone graduated, but not everyone graduated,
when it was time to be done with high school, the Jewish kids and the Asian kids tended
to go off to Cal and UCLA and I started cleaning up trash on a construction site with my buddy
Ray and a lot of the brothers just went back to South Central did I
Don't know what and the Mexicans cleaned up trash with me on the construction site
And that's that's a heartbreaking indictment of the system not your guys families what not the culture you came and I asked this
But the Jewish guys and the Asian guys were in the exact same system
But they have a history and a culture of their own a culture. No, I history where they get the history
Where they get the culture?
Okay. Thanks drew that the point is this we all were in the same system
But it would that extra two years do for you. Why don't you just drop out? I
played football.
Played football, learned to work with weathered feldspar.
Yeah, no, the system was, the system didn't work then.
It's got to be worse now.
I don't know. It's worse in certain places. It's better in others. North
Hollywood wins academic competitions now.
What?
I'm sure it's like nine Indian kids who do it. But the
point is is the system never really was meant to be a system. You see that's
here's where everyone like you drew is dropping the ball. It never was a system.
It was show up, sit in class, old guy reads textbooks,
go home, do homework, family involved,
couple of PTA meetings, couple of open houses,
do your, take your tests and go off to college
or go off to be a pipe fitter.
That was it.
They were never gonna help, they were never gonna hurt,
they were just there.
I had a counselor, everyone had a counselor.
I didn't talk to the guy the entire time
until I got suspended.
That's it, he didn't help, he didn't hurt.
It was a system.
Now my problem was, unlike some of my,
Nate Wittenberg's family, who's now a doctor
or a nurse or something, and Alex Arato's family,
who's now an attorney, he had a family.
They said
to him, where's your homework? What's going on?
No, there's no doubt that family, you know, an intact family and an interest in parenting
and all that stuff is the key.
Well, not a qu- the key? Newsom doesn't have it in his top ten.
But, you know, we've got to get an educator in here to get- we don't know what the fuck
we're talking about.
Are you fucking nuts? I know everything. What do you mean I don't know what I'm talking
about? We need an educator.
It'd be interesting.
You need an educator.
Wouldn't it be interesting?
No, they don't have to fuck.
They're mouthpieces for the state.
They don't know what they're talking about.
We all know what the answer is.
Everyone get their shit together.
Let's go.
Let's focus.
Show up.
Show up early.
Do your homework.
Get your shit together.
Hey, parents, if your kid ain't showing up, that's not us.
That's not us, we're not gonna go looking for him.
You figure out why your kid's fucking home.
And when they say, well I work three jobs
and I have nine kids and there's no man around,
well whose fucking fault is that?
That's what we need.
And I'm saying it and now I knock on it.
Oh, this is the greatest moment ever. I just dumped my coffee.
I dumped my coffee all over myself, which I've never done in my life.
And it had to be the day I made fun of Dr. Drew.
I was that animated. I was that animated.
The point is this. I am saying it because, unlike Gavin Newsom, I would like change.
I would like change.
You can blame the system.
I don't-
Well, I blame the leadership.
Okay.
We've had 40 years of the system and 40 years of the leadership.
You want to go-
No, but you're saying the same thing.
You're saying the leadership needs to get up there and say, hey, everybody get your
shit together.
That's leadership.
As opposed to, we gotta grind these schools into dust,
which is what the leadership has been doing.
Look. Right?
You put way, Drew, you and I have been going around
on this a million years.
I've told you this a million times.
You are so focused on education.
Yes.
But you're focused on the facility, not the kid. First things first, if your kid
is curious, you're home free.
Yes, you made it through but for the grace of God because you have a certain kind of
brain.
No, no. I've known a lot of people. First thing is you have to be curious. You have
to ask questions. You have to go, why? I don't understand that. How does that work? I want
to know. That's number one. So you need motivation, which is the key problem today. Nobody's motivated for anything
I don't know if it's mode. I don't know. My curiosity is motivation. It's an engine. It's it's a motivational state
The the the point the point is this we can start by having a family that's intact. Yes that
Emphas emphasis on education.
Meaning when you come home from school, there are two adults there who go, where's your
homework?
The problem will magically go away.
The bureaucrats, they're horrible at everything they do.
So you can blame them, and I do blame them but they ain't gonna be fixed.
They're too busy running for re-election. You get what I'm saying?
I'm saying you should run for office. I should. Yeah. I'm saying. Okay. All right.
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Well, okay.
First off, a couple of things. First question out of Denver was a guy stood up.
There's 1500 people in the auditorium and he stood up. And I started the show by complaining
that hold on, slow down, that the driver who picked me up at the airport when we were going out to Applejack's liquor store,
the driver who picked me up at the airport gave us a, he was sitting out in his town car for, you know,
half hour waiting for me and Mike to arrive and his first thing out of his mouth was,
so where are we going? And I'm like, well we're going somewhere that's halfway between Denver and Golden, Colorado, about 55 miles from here.
It's a liquor store.
Well, where is it?
You know, I'm like, isn't part of your job
when you pick someone up for the airport to just know,
I mean, you're not a cab driver, you're a town car.
Like, and then he went, oh yeah, I got it.
He found, he had it.
But the point is, go ahead and look at it. And then he started to punch yeah, I got it. He had it, but the point is, go ahead and look at it.
And then he started to punch it into his Garmin, like he was like, hold up.
And I was like, really, we're sitting here while you're now punching this address into
your Garmin, when you've been sitting in your car for half an hour.
Punch it into the Garmin, before.
Anyway, I was complaining about that.
And then this asshole in Denver stood up and he said, hey man, you was complaining about that and then this asshole Denver stood up and he said hey man
you're complaining about the guy didn't know where he was going
when he picked you up in the town car but your own website
didn't have the address to the liquor store
on it and I said is that true because we talked about this and I've yelled at a
lot of people about this very same topic.
Lynette lives in fear of this particular problem.
Good.
She wakes up one night with night terrors screaming, ah!
I forgot to put the address on the website.
No she doesn't.
And the reason she doesn't is because if she was scared, then it would never not happen.
Because it happened, you mean she's not scared? Well I've had that
discussion with her before where the bar was always like kind of dank. I thought
you got through that you got it though. No no she did at a certain point. Yeah now she's having
night terrors. At a certain point she said you scare me and I said no I don't. She
said what do you mean? I said if I scared you the bar would have been cleaned out
the 88th time I asked for it.
That's what's scaring.
I know what scare it is.
I used to live next to a kid named Max who had a stepdad who...
Scary?
Scary.
And he would yell, like you just hear that voice, Max!
And he used to run with his arms by his side, like straight with his palms down, and he'd
yell.
He ran like it was a weird
like a like a wooden soldier trying to fly they should have lied and he just
take out like we're be playing in the yard and and he'd just be running yes
sir and he'd be running around the corner and I thought well there's a
scared kid now yelling back and what do you want old man like you did you take
your asshole pills today what's up that't, that's not my definition of scared.
But this asswipe stood up and wanted to know
why it wasn't on the website,
which I don't know what kind of question that is to ask.
What was that?
I blamed the driver.
He stood up in front of 1,500 people and was like,
hey man, you said that driver didn't know
where he was going and you were complaining about that, but your own website didn't have an address.
Think of that motivation to get up and go to the mic. Think of that engine.
And Adam took a show of hands in the theater for how many people found the address.
I said, I think it's on the website. He's like, no, it's not on the website. I said, I
yell at everyone every day to put it on the website. He said, it's not on the
website. I said, okay, show of hands,
because I know 400 of you people showed up
at that event today.
How many people saw it on the website?
400 hands went up and I said, shut the fuck up.
And we moved on to our next question.
I don't know who that guy is,
I don't know what the motivation is
and I have no fucking idea,
but do they know what colossal dicks they are
or do they know how
defective they are mentally? That's sort of the male version well it's the guy
that brings the feeds the dog out of your cup probably that guy and it's sort
of the male version. This is the confrontational aggressive version of that.
Yeah same guy though probably. Yeah. So he's got that guy without a like a
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