The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Transgender (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: December 24, 2024

Adam and Drew discuss the Jodi Arias trial and Lynette's potentially dangerous infatuation with it. They also take a listener call on the evolution of the term transgender.

This is Corolla Digital. Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show yeah get it on got to get it on a choice But to get on man date get it on good to see you there Drew ski good to be here Adam Yeah, buddy pedal travel together last week. We're like we're like we're like true was the club I was I was betting now last week. We were in Denver Drew was the club I was I was betting now last week we were in Denver and we were coming back to the room I I almost felt a little bit bad, but we're coming back to the room and

Drew's wife made the travel arrangements. So she had your ass up on the club floor. I was just on seventh floor It was closed. Yeah It was good cuz Drew said to me when we're walking back to the hotel, it's about 11 o'clock at night in Denver, and he said, come on up to the club floor and have a drink. And I said, I thought about it, and I thought, ooh, something diabolical

with the airlines now. I said, I gotta- We can't fly to work because sequestration has stopped the airport from functioning. Well, it's ground to a halt. Everything's ground to a halt. So I, oh you'll love a couple of my, you'll love my, here's how much faith I have in the, whenever the, here's the thing about the government for me.

When they start threatening doom and gloom, I know it's nothing. When they don't say anything about something, I know it's nothing when they don't say anything about something. I know it's something Yeah, so the stuff they talk about when they give you the heads up and the warning and they're like hey look out This is gonna happen like whatever the government starts really getting up about whether it's sequestration or secondhand smoke Whenever they start getting into something. I was immediately ignore it because I know it means nothing I mean they're trying to scare me a prenatal health or whatever they're fucking going at, I always know it's like, oh, who gives a shit. It was almost comical.

Did you hear the head of Homeland Security? They were going, already I'm hearing delays in airports. The reporter goes, where? Where are the delays? Well, I want to say O'Hare. I want to say Ontario, California. I want to say this. I want to say Waterloo, Iowa.

I said it on the podcast last week, but it was absolutely true. I had a 1210 flight out of Burbank to go meet Drew in Denver, 1210. And I said to Matt, the porcelain punisher, Fond Leir, I said, well, why don't you come pick me up at my house at 1115? I've given myself now less than an hour leaving my house to go to the airport, go through security. Now Burbank Airport is not next to my house, it's closer than LAX, but it's a little bit of- Twenty, twenty-five minutes, yeah?

It's fifteen, twenty minutes. It's a little bit of, it's a drive. You wouldn't walk it, you wouldn't jog it, you wouldn't ride it on a bicycle. No. So I said, show up at 11 15 for my 12 10 flight and then I started hearing all this sequestration stuff and I went hmm hmm and I started thinking and so I adjusted the flight time or adjusted the departure time for me and I said Matt tell you what let's play it safe Show up my house at 1110. I chopped five minutes off.

We got to the airport and me and Mike August sat in the bar and I had a beer waiting for the flight to love. So that's the doom and the gloom. But remind me something on the ticket, interesting thing. So I had a flight that was a 759 flight out of Denver and the Denver airport is not near the hotel at all. And I'd been road hard and was basically put away wet. I'd spent the day traveling and then I was down at the liquor store signing all the bottles and doing all things and then we did the show that night

So when Drew said why don't you come up to the 35th floor and hang out the club level with me and have a glass of Wine while it sounded super tempting I realize I was on the clock I was getting up at 6 15 or 6 a.m To leave the next day and I was already whooped but then I also said to him clubs not gonna be open And he said yeah, it'll be open. I said no not, not gonna. I know those clubs. First off, it's not going to be open. Well, if I show up, it's not going to be open. Right. That's what I said the dream thing we know. Yeah. If I if we need something, it's not going to happen. But I'm glad to know that I know everything, which is I've been to two of these clubs in my life.

I don't have a wife for a travel agent who does any of this stuff but I told Drew it's not going to be open. And Drew? Not open. Now the other thing that is interesting, I wonder if Matt the porcelain punisher could find this thing, a boarding pass. Interesting. What? Well Mike said to me two things. Mike said, Mike August said, I said, what time's the flight? He said, 7.59. I said, oh boy, it's a half hour to the airport, sequestration, gotta get there an hour early, see in the lobby at 6.30, 6.20, 6.30, okay. So, okay, now we get to the airport

Okay, so okay now we get to the airport and We look up the flight says 825 and then Mike says to me oh I guess it's been delayed and I alright doesn't say delayed just as flight 825 and I alright well, it's been delayed Then a funny funny moment funny moment where we go into the United Lounge and normally it's a huge battle royale of, hey listen, I got a first class ticket and I got this black car and I got this special pass thing and they just go, no, no, no, not today. Not today. Blackout. Flying internationally, you have to be flying to Jupiter.

The funniest thing ever is I walk right in, I just show my first class ticket back to LA and they're like, yeah, come on in. And I'm like, yeah, this is my buddy and he's traveling. Yeah, come on in, come on in. And we both just breeze right passing. And I go, well, that was easy. That was easy. Then we get to the lounge. We sit in front of a 42 inch TV that's just showing local news. And I'm like, all right, well, I'm going to go to the bar and get a Bloody Mary. Ah, yeah, the bar's closed. And then Mike looks around, and it's like at the Slim Pickens. Like, just a couple stale donuts and a couple stale bagels,

and they're out of cream cheese kind of thing. And I was like, where's the ice? I want to get some orange juice, put some ice in there. They're like, ah, there's no ice. And then I thought, oh, that's why we're of course come on in Because come on in I mean listen I'm happy about United and everything and they do have a bar was not open blah blah blah But I did I did I did jump back 20 minutes to the nice lady going yeah

Come on in cuz it's like it's like somebody it's like you having nothing in your refrigerator and going, hey, hobos, help yourself. There's nothing in it. Have at it. Have at it. Go sick, as my gay friends would say. So as Mike and I just picked through the very slim pickings that were up at the United, captains allowed to realize, oh, this is why everyone gets in because you have a choice

when there's open bars So down now I Have said this once I will say it again as a man by the way the time on the ticket big bold big dark bold print 759. So I'm sitting there and I said, well Mike, flight's been delayed almost half an hour and you know how they break it off into chunks.

I mean we're liable to get another, you know, they'll tell you 20 minutes later, oh it's been another 20 minutes, you know. They do it that way. Look down and I realize, oh no, the flight's on time. The person behind the counter, the flight's on time. I said no, it's a on time. The person behind the counter, the flight's on time. I said, no, it's a 7.59, they bumped it down. In very small, hollowed out print.

Now outline print, not bold print. It's like the outline print, very small. Flight time, 8.24. Boarding time, big, bold print. So I said to the lady at the gate, because I hadn't seen this before, I said, that's a little confusing. She said, oh yeah.

And I said, why are you doing it that way? And she said, get you on the plane. And I was like, oh you motherfuckers. It's good. It's not. I like sitting in those lines forever. What lines? You know, packing those planes on for, you know.

No, this is getting you there half hour early. When they're boarding. So they can take off on time. No, yeah, no, listen, I'm all for the, you know, mind games and the strategy and the psychology and all that kind of stuff. This is, this you're lying to me about, which is I need to know the time the flight leaves and then I will do the math accordingly

Yeah, you guys have your rules Which is I can't show up 20 minutes before the flight not checked in and get on the flight You have your rules this gets everyone to the airport a half hour early. Yeah, it doesn't get you on the plane Earlier per se per se it just makes you think that your 1230 flights at noon instead of 1230 Yeah, it's really interesting I've never seen it before and it's one of those things that I wonder how many people knows and Mike Who's Johnny on the spot has never messed one of these things up and we've flown all over the country went What and I was like you can we'll find you an example.

It's weird, but it's clear exactly what they're doing. Either way, again, I'm in Denver, I've been working my ass off for the last 17 hours. I would have loved to have met Mike in the lobby at 7 a.m. instead of 630 Oh listen, and I would you're working long hours that extra 15 minutes is always the psychological Difference between the sixes and the sevens. Yeah for some reason 7 a.m Emotionally much more well actually not just emotionally it turns out your cortisol levels peak at 6 a.m

So I may have something to do with your rhythms, your sleep rhythm. Either way, I wish United would have given me the choice to meet Mike at 7 a.m. in the lobby instead of 6.30, but I'm happy that the club level was closed. All right, so that was that, and like I said said coming to a town near you Denver was awesome last week and Vegas is coming up Salt Lake City, Redondo Beach, Napa. You just go on the website and you can check. Everyone is different, right?

We never know what we're going to do together. Never know. Never know. But they're always good. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah, this was a really good show and a great, great onsen.

Great time. And Drew told some really, really fun stories that I had not heard. And you know, I know you shy away from telling your personal stories, I mean, med school and cadavers and all that kind of fun stuff, but people are interested and that's why they're there. It's more, if you don't prompt me, I really don't think people would want to know. Prompt you, I have to kick you. No, I know, you're literally reaching down my gullet, but it seems like they do like

those stories, which is fascinating to me. That wasn't your gullet I was reaching into. But no, it's good. Youth medicine for keister, Chris. There's a part of you that feels like a young 14 year old dr. Drew with crazy hair and bad skin who has no business being up on the stage right and or certainly don't want to hear me you must put that part of you aside because you owe it to the people who paid 30 bucks for the ticket to come see you I understand you said that you know how Mariah Carey has an alternate name for performing? You see a lot of these

divas have a name they call by that that's what I become. It's super blowhardy. You know what I mean? So I need to become. For me it's Tobias. You become Tobias. That's when I come out on stage and now all of a, the little guy from North Hollywood, his parents basically ignored him at no self-esteem, becomes Tobias. I become Jamie. On stage. Well, I want you to become something. Anything other than what I am.

Well, you ain't cutting it. No, I'm saying come up psychologically, dig. Dig. Dig. You are like I am, which is you come from a place where you're supposed to be seen and not heard and no one ever pulled you aside and said, oh, write that down. That's very clever. Oh, people pay to see the pearls of wisdom that come from your mouth. No No you and I have never heard that in our lives so that's what we're born

with and that's why Tobias emerges on stage and you're going out there as Dr. Drew. Oh just me with my little stories no one wants to hear that. So now it's Jamie. Jamie Tobias. The Jamie Tobias show. Get marquee change change that marquee would it be Tobias featuring Jamie? That's right Oh my god. Oh, there's a ticket. There's a boarding pass. All right. Let me see if I can Figure this one. You know, they're different when you get them at this at the airport versus when you print them up Yeah, this this had it this this had it this had it on top. But yes, thank Mike. That's very good. Let's see.

OK, see Lynch. Lynch is showing me his. But Mike, does this say when you're leaving? Or can I not even find it on there? Departure time is highlighted, and then board time is highlighted. Oh, sorry. Departure time. Oh, OK. Departure time. Oh, okay.

All right. Yeah. Yeah. I think the highlighting may have muddied this experiment just a little bit, but look how much bigger, but I appreciate it. Look how much bigger the boarding time is. You don't even see the departure time. There's the departure time.

Wow. It's in a different area, too. Yeah. Different part of the lineup now mine had the boarding time on top yeah departure time and the departure time was hollowed out like it was a Hollow shell of a numeral. Yeah, so they they ain't fucking around. Yeah Yeah, it's good to find some better examples. All right. Listen, I'm I'm kind of with them I'm kind of with them. I'm kind of with them.

On the other hand, you're intentionally misleading the people that are traveling on your airline. You're always advocating for that kind of thing. No, I am. I just want it for me. We have to have your own boarding pass. I want my own custom United boarding pass. All right. Hey, quick thing. So Gary Haftar today, I'm sitting and talking to him about 5 Pounds of Hubbard's, and he goes, hey, is that blood?

Got like blood all down the side of my neck where I cut myself shaving. Interesting thing, people don't bring that up right. Anyway, I want to talk about shaving. Your buddy Kimmel, do you know he's like a shaving nut? There's a few guys out there that do the straight edge and go to the place and do the thing Yeah, but he's like he told me he thinks it should be taught in high school Well, I have talked to him about that many times and

I just want to check those guys or something Yeah, well obviously there are many things that should be taught in high school We were talking a previous show about starting a checking account. That should be things that should be taught in high school. We were talking to a previous show about starting a checking account. That should be something that they get into in high school. Sort of like 101, how not to get pregnant. Well. What it means if you want to get pregnant.

I did a whole bunch of, it's something they called like practical arts or something. Literally, junior high. I took cooking, I took sewing, I took ceramics, I took horticulture. If we only had a video of that, how funny would that be? You know what we did in cooking? We made Parmesan Pillsbury Poppers. We took Pillsbury dough, spread it out on a tray,

and shook Parmesan cheese on top of it and put it in the oven for 20 minutes. I learned nothing, or whatever I learned. Look, hold on with Kimmel for a second. I wanna scream at the top of my lungs with all this stuff. It's like when you're watching one of these piece of shit television shows like Dora the Explorer or Wawa Wubsy or something

and they're like, hey, this is educational because these kids are learning language skills. I would learn how to boil water at some point in my career and I would learn language skills at a certain point in my career. I don't need the retarded dialogue coming out of your fucked up unimaginative characters to teach my kids language skills.

They'll hear it every day. And I don't know what Abe Lincoln did without Wawawubzy, but he seemed to land on his feet, size 14 feet. The point is, I don't know what we're doing. So I could have been learning about a checking account and I could have been learning about you know, birth control, but I was learning about Pillsbury popovers and I was learning how to sew. Listen, you should hope your kid doesn't know how to sew.

That's a good thing. If he's really good at sewing, probably not a good sign. Right. I have no idea how to sew. I'm glad. All right. So anyway, Kimmel shaving. I turned him on to this stuff called Gables, I think. It's sort of like in the old days of shaving, the stuff that like Bugs Bunny would put on with the hot towel and

stuff. It makes a huge, huge difference. I don't know why I was going to talk about this, but it was my executive producer at HLN is interested in this stuff too. Some guys get very, it's just interesting to me that some guys get so into, their website's dedicated to gaming. You know what I'm interested in? I'm interested in the leather strap that hangs off the chair is called a strop.

And I love the idea that a strap is called a strop. Because it is a strap, but it's a strop. So it's a strop. It's a weird one. You know what I mean? Yes. But it got you. It caught your attention.

I wonder how many people, it's sort of, I think the cummerbund and the strop are the two most mispronounced articles or pieces of the English language. I thought it was a strap. I thought you take a leather strap and take the blade to it. It sharpens the blade It's a shit. It's a big it's a big leather Strap right call it a straw. That's a straw and I'll tell that that's good. Good question so the thing that

Thing that was unsatisfying to me when I went and got a gift certificate. For one of those shaves? They use, it's a razor strop. I don't know if you can. Strop, S-T-R-O-P. Yeah, you're a doctor and you thought it was a strap, right? It's a strop. So you'll be glad to know the highfalutin folks on the left have now, somebody tweeted me,

have gotten not only, it started with Carnegie family and then the Carnegie Hall, and now they've, they started saying, the Carnegie, Zoe said, the left loves to correct. They love to correct. That's their whole thing. That's the whole thing. You know, if you go, these, whatever it is you say, they're huge, they love academics.

And thus, I am telling you, everyone likes to correct, but I feel like the left likes to correct more, like when you go- Is that demeaning or being aggressive? It's passive aggressive. You go, the Indians, indigenous indigenous people you know what I mean you know I've heard can film festival go from can to then be corrected to Khan and then once everyone got on a con it got pushed back to can again just to I can't you explain this to me I will it. It's Carnegie Hall. Yep. Andrew Carnegie was the person's name.

I knew his great grandchild. She called him Andrew Carnegie. I actually knew the family when I was growing up. Andrew Carnegie, his great great grandfather. Well because that's what his name was. But when the left decided to take his money to fund their broadcasting, it became the Carnegie Foundation. And now they, it became the Carnegie Foundation. And now they're getting into the Carnegie Hall.

They're actually changing the guy's name because we need to be corrected. Now they can't do a, it is not black, it is African American. They can't do that with Carnegie because his name is Carnegie, so they'll just change the pronunciation and correct us. I have noticed in medical schools, you know, population students that come through, like every generation, like every 14 years, 17 years, they have to change the nomenclature. They just have to. They have to sort of make it their own.

This is now our territory and we're going to change what we call these things too. This is no longer skeletal. This is no longer skeletal. It's skeletal Oh, well, that's and so longer nomenclature. It's nomenclature. You're you're thinking like a Neanderthal Because I've had the Neanderthal got switched in the end or two. Yeah, too. Yes, it's it's every and be believe me 70 more years It'll switch to something else No, it'll switch to something else. Or it'll change words all year. No, it'll switch back. Could switch back, yeah.

Because academia loves to teach. But they have to also smear their own shit on it. This is ours now. We have our own nomenclature. Somebody's got to look into how KCRW turned Andrew Carnegie's name into Andrew Carnegie. I love the fact though that when I first heard that I was like hey I knew the family. I knew his granddaughter and she was she wasn't pronouncing her name correctly true.

The people over at KCRW know how to pronounce the name better than the family do. You listen to them and by the way you know it'll start off as Iran and then I'll go to Iran and stuff like that. It's all part of the correction. Iraq, Iraq. Yeah, it's all we know more. And then it'll, it'll anything but here's the deal. Well, it's where defines an in group and an out group. I will. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I will lord above you because I am your intellectual superior because I know how things are correctly pronounced. Listen, I come from this. My grandmother would do this.

Oh, it's probably no different than I'd like to share your grateful point. The affectation was it been around forever? Well, they write except for that's the right version of it and this is the left version. Let me correct you on edge. Do you notice that every argument right and left, the right makes the argument and tries to do whatever the argument is. They have their own techniques of arguing,

but they're trying to argue whatever the point. The left is, you could never understand the complexities of this. You don't understand. This is so complex. You make it so simple with your focus on this or do that or get back to work. You don't know.

You don't know the complexities of this issue. So I would say, you're not smart enough to argue or debate with me. Yeah, Carnegie, everybody. Awesome. And Drew was banging the granddaughter on everybody. Yeah! The granddaughter was actually about 70 when I was a teenager, but I knew her daughter

and her own granddaughter. So I knew three generations from that family. They just happened to have a place where I was hanging out. Uh-huh. All right. Should we take some phone calls here, Dr. Drew? Yeah, do it. We never know where we're going to go, do we?

No, we never do. Never know. All right. Let's see. phone calls here yeah Dr. Drew never know where we're gonna go no never know all right let's see Catherine 26 New York let's talk about transgender oh boy yeah that I have a sad you know how I talk about some of the dumbest people on the planet with the worst attitudes are put in charge of everything now. I mean, they're the gatekeepers. I always talk about that. You know, they're the security guards. They're the park. The people decide whether you're getting through this corridor and getting onto the plane or getting onto the bus or getting into the stadium or into the show or into the parking lot or out of the parking lot. We had a very interesting thing happen where a few weeks ago, we were leaving LAX,

parked the car at LAX, did a show one night or came back the next morning, hopped in the car, just parked there, didn't get a ride. We all, I think Lynch was in the car for this, we all jumped in the car and we were walking out, we were driving out and the chick, again in LA it's all the folks that don't really speak English and they not only do they not speak English, I don't speak Spanish fluently but you know if I run into somebody who does and they go you know

que pasa or how are you or whatever it is I go you know muy bien y tu and you know I understand enough to go in the hand me something I go donata you know they go gracias donata like I understand the little thank yous and how you doing and good enoughs which I think wouldn't be too much for these guys to ask You know, they may not have mastered the English language and it might not be the Grey Poupon guy Which would be nice but they're not but they certainly could they certainly can say thank you or have a nice day Because they do speak enough language for that, even though they're not interested in that part of it.

But we were pulling out, and because it's the airport, they have to have the license plate. Where you have to pull into those cameras that they take. Yeah. And they need to sort of chronicle what it is. And I am for security. Because I always love this stuff because if somebody is going to blow up something, they're gonna steal license plates off a guy

who lives in Cardena and just pull it off his camera and put it on their car. But anyway, and by the way, if they are gonna blow up an airplane, they're gonna buy a two-way ticket, not a one-way ticket because they don't want any flags to go off, but we're so stupid. So, fine.

So she says to me, now here's the thing that's interesting. My license plate on my car has a New Jersey plate. And this person knew the new part, but not the Jersey. Didn't know what the jersey was. And it was this weird thing where she said like, where's your plate? And I was like, excuse me? I gave her the money and she gave me the thing and she said, where's your plate, what's your plate?

And I was like, I don't know what you're asking. Like I didn't know what she meant, where's your plate, what's your plate, how's your plate, and I forgot it was new. Mike August said, oh no, they have to write down plates. She knows New York. She does not know New Jersey. She doesn't know that's a state.

And she's confused by what it says. But she wants me to tell her what my license plate is. She's looking at it on a camera, but she can't figure it out. Again, part of me has pity for her, but the other part is, come on, folks, let's get it together now. Let's get it together. Let's start focusing just a little bit. So I had no idea what she was talking

about. She didn't seem to have any idea what she was talking about either. And Mike August, I believe, who's usually the furthest out of it, of the group, he gleaned that she needed to know what state we're from and New Jersey was not in her wheelhouse. I didn't think I knew. I didn't know New Jersey was a state when I was in high school either, by the way. Seriously? I got to tell you, I didn't know Detroit was in Michigan. I'm trying to think of some other.

I wouldn't know Kansas City was in Missouri. Like we never took geography. All we took was cooking and sewing classes. We can take geography. Ceramics.ics and ceramics lots of ceramics. All right. Now we're going back to New York, right? All right, Catherine Catherine hey, I 26 What's going on? I wanted to know what transgender dysmorphia disorder is a Belief thing or the band that I listened to a year ago came out saying that he is no longer a man.

He has transgender and he's going to be associating with a woman and he now dresses like a woman and is taking medication to become a woman and change his name and everything. Right. So I just want to know what that is. True. Let's talk about this. It's become a hot bed issue because we are out of problems. I am no expert. become a hotbed issue because we are out of problems.

And now if you make a joke about Chas Bono, you're just homophobic and everything else. When we started out, the whole transgender thing was kind of considered a disorder. It still is in the diagnostic manuals. As far as I know, I haven't seen this in five years. considered a disorder. It still is in the diagnostic manuals. As far as I know, I haven't seen this in five years. But it's now considered a viable, I mean, it's not quite having a tumor, but medically it's viable now, or at least as a society we speak about it as a medically viable...

Well, I think the shift is it used to be, this is a disorder. It's some developmental traumatic delay. Let's work on this in analysis and therapy and figure this out. Now it's, that really doesn't work. So let's make them a woman if they say they're a woman or a man. Let's just do that. The outcomes are better. A man trapped inside a woman's body or woman trapped inside a man's body used to be laughable. Now people take it as genuine, like they go, what's the problem?

Well, I was born a woman, but there's a man trapped inside of me or vice versa. And everyone goes, oh, I didn't know that. It used to be looked at the same as if you said, I have Napoleon trapped inside of me or vice versa. And everyone goes, oh, I didn't know that. It used to be looked at the same as if you said, I have Napoleon caught inside of me. Right. Like I'm Adam, but Napoleon's trapped inside of me. Now it's, oh, absolutely. Now part of it is just public pressure.

People don't want shit. People don't wanna argue with it because if you argue with it, then the gay mafia is gonna come down on you. That's a lot of it. I know personally. You argue with this, well, there's a man trapped inside a woman's body. You argue with that concept and you'll be run out of town. So people don't want to touch it. But again, people are cowards and they take the path of least resistance And who wants to get yelled at on Twitter, right or a boycott whatever?

Boycott get it. So but I've still always thought to myself and now it's just discussed as an actual Problem there. I mean it's a disorder. Yeah, no, but I mean not a disorder not a Psychological disorder, but it's always discussed. It's like disorder. Yeah. No, but I mean, not a psychological disorder, but it's always discussed as like a physical disorder. It's, but it still has psychological dimensions. It's just the physical pieces now where the treatment is focused. You understand? Well, what I'm saying is, is somebody says now in 2013, yes, I was born a man, and it's not, I don't have ambiguous genitalia.

I have a penis and tessies and everything else, but there's a woman trapped inside of me. Yeah, and people go. Oh, okay Thanks for the heads up. I didn't know that good luck on your transformation becoming a woman You could argue that that's a progress right, but I wonder First off, I'm not a physician, but it doesn't sound physically it sounds physically impossible I have a woman trapped inside of you. Well, but I'm not a physician, but it doesn't sound physically impossible to have a woman trapped inside of you. I'm putting the very small percentage of gender-specific sexual organs. Once in a while, somebody's ambiguous genitalia and there's other...

Those people don't usually have... Whatever, but there's things going on. Yeah. Physiologically. Yeah. But I'm just saying it's your son. Yeah. And he announces to you that there's a woman trapped inside of him. What are you laughing about?

Now I'm picturing a little different mode that Drew would go into. No. But what would, and he says, I want to go under the knife, man. At that point, I would rely on the medical system, though. I would fall back on the experts. Well, the medical system's kind of backing off and going, go under the knife, then. The medical system is saying there's a treatment for this, and it's not, and it's, and it's transforming.

All right, so he says, all right, I'm good. I have my surgery scheduled. I would be like, share. I would be like, I don't understand this. I love my son. So your son has now scheduled surgery to have his genitalia removed. I'd lie down on top of him, wouldn't let them have to cut through me of course. They'd have to go through your anus?

No, I'm saying, Drew, be honest. I think I would be freaked out like every parent and I think I admire the way Cher has dealt with it. I really do. I think the way she dealt with it was... She's a hero, but listen... No, I do. I think she was like, I don't get this.

I like being a woman. Yeah, listen, I'm fine with Cher. I'm just saying... Sonny Bono's an idiot, but Cher's got talent. Sonny Bono, I've decided there that he's the least talented person on the human on the planet that's made the most money. Says complete and utter talent, zero. But, and just a hack.

How did you go off onto him? I was thinking about how bad he was. I had Teddy Pendergrass in here singing white people songs. And all I really want to do is baby be friends with you. I had Teddy Pendergrass in here singing white people songs. And all I really want to do is baby be friends with you. And I was picturing them and him and Sonny and Cher. And then I'm picturing Sonny Bono. If you see pictures of him in the 60s,

he looks like the quintessential 60s. He looks like central casting from 60s beatnik, fur vest, and everything. And then you see a picture of him from the 70s. And all of a sudden he looks like Quintessential 70s guy and then you see a picture of him from the 80s or 90s And he looks like quintessential 80s and 90s guy and then I realized you have a talentless chameleon He can't write he can't sing he can't do anything

But hook on to share and make money off her off of her That's all he ever did and even she got a member It's, you gotta remember, people don't remember the history of these people. Heard Joan Rivers on Stern the other day talking about how she tried to book Cher on The Tonight Show. They wouldn't hear of it. Right. Who is this? Yeah.

Well, he made her into a star, but he was a talentless hack who could not write a song. His wife, his wife Mary Bono, you met her? You ought to have her in here. She's awesome. Here's my point. What is your style, Sonny Bono? I need to bring her in my show. What do you like Gary? Mary this is your style. All right, so Drew. Yeah now your son wants to go under the knife. Yeah, it's going under the knife We're gonna do I can't stop it Well, what would you suggest? I would really get the right medical professionals to advise.

I would throw myself on. Well, now I'm saying it's considered a viable problem. I knew a guy who was a physician, one of the best doctors, who was one of my residents at one time, one of the nicest, greatest guys I ever worked with, he switched over. And not a hint along the way. But aren't we talking about something

that is psychological more than physiological? I would hope, I would encourage maybe an attempt at some kind of therapy, and I would look at the data on what the outcomes are in therapy and how long it takes and what the motivation has to be in the individual versus just switching over. I think the reason people have adopted the surgery is that has better outcomes.

Well I guess the moral of the story is no matter how fucked up psychologically somebody is if they're going to just be happier this way then just let them be that way. That's what you're saying. Right. But I don't believe there's any, there's not many other ways where the medical profession takes that approach. Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah, I think they're all they do with opiate addiction

even now, like, well, this guy's always got my opiates, let's give him an opiate and just stay on it, and then they'll find the right opiate. But you're not a fan of that. I'm not a fan of that. Well, so why are you a fan of this? I'm not a fan of any of it. I'm just, I'm interested in the better outcomes.

I'm just picturing your son. That's all. Which one? Which one goes across the door? I'll go Douglas. Oh, that's awesome. And you just diving on top of him when they start cutting into his junk. Now look, I'm asking because it went from who knows and who cares and these people are

all nuts to, well well we got a problem I don't know I still don't believe medically you have a woman trapped inside of you you're interviewed Sonny Chasbono I let's put it to you I'll put it to you this way you please stop me if I'm wrong I've not interviewed Chasbono he's a very cool guy. Now listen. You and I have talked to, well we talked to what's his name, our cat, and we've talked to people that were transgendered and all that kind of stuff. I have not talked to any of them that weren't rageful, like insanely angry. I know Chamba because I remember some of the ones we have talked to. Right. How do you account for that? Again, people...

The point is, Chasbono, I think it has to be you have to really carefully select who goes out of the night. And I'm not sure that is happening quite the way it should. I think we've decided that this is just a legitimate problem. You've got a woman trapped inside you and that's probably not the way to do it. The ones I've talked to that have gone through this or have done it or have gone halfway through it do not seem comfortable in their new skin at all. Remember that one female to male guy that had a fake penis and married a woman and she didn't know any of this?

Remember that? Yeah. The angriest prick I ever spoke to in my fucking life. Like rageful. That was rough. You brought him in to interview ever spoke to in my fucking life. Yeah, that was rough. Like rageful. You brought him in to interview him and he was a fucking dick. But he was rageful. And I've got into it with...

Well, and then if I had deceived this woman and stuff and wouldn't take any of that, blame it all on her. And Arquette was one of the just sort of meanest, disrespectful, whatever-est things on the planet. So it's not just about gender there's other issues at work here but the question is what how do the outcomes turn out where the outcomes better well I don't know because this guy didn't seem like he was walking on sunshine he seemed as miserable and as angry a dude as we've ever interviewed yes that guy with the fake penis. Yes. Oh, yeah, okay

All right, let's take a quick break drew we'll be right back with your calls and the rest of the show next Hey, it's Adam Kroll from the Adam Kroll the show bet online is the world's most trusted bedding platform and your number one source for online betting from the earliest odds to in game live betting bet online provides you with all the action and the ability to watch and bet on games as they happen with the largest selection of odds on everything from football, NBA, college basketball as well. BetOnline has NHL, MMA, and championship boxing, all your betting needs in one place. Head to BetOnline today to get in on the action with America's most trusted site for online wagering.

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I think I'm your colleague. Okay. I figured out last week that all of my employees were gruntled. Not disgruntled, gruntled. It's happy. They're all very gruntled. Chris Maxpanna? So gruntled.

Super grunt. Gary? Oh, gruntled for sure. To the max? Oh, absolutely. It sounds like they should be Norwegian gnomes living in the Hansel and Gretel's house. One to ten, what would you say your grunt-fulness is at? Oh, thirteen.

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Visit go to meeting.com, click on the try it free button, use the promo code Adam. All right, Drew. You watching the Jody Arias case at all that I'm covering on HLN? I think my wife is. Any thoughts on that? Just curious what your take is on it. My take is every time I walk into the bedroom, my wife is transfixed by some young chick

who's killed somebody. Yeah. Who's, first off- Killed a baby, killed herself, killed her husband. Yeah, first off, if Lynette walked, when she walks into the baby, kill herself, kill the husband. Yeah. First off, if Lynette walks, you know, when she walks into the room, I'm watching Sports Center or Varsity Blues, something important, but I wonder if she just walked in and every moment I was watching some dude who offed his wife is now banging her best friend and get got away with it or something and I'm just sitting there watching it's fixed

scratching my chin Interesting noted. Oh that was a mistake One that I'm not gonna make It's a weird message that there's just a bunch of chicks watching these things and I have to walk in and by the way If it's not this bitch, it's the next one or the one before. But I gotta tell you, the way they watch it is they like to hate the girl, they like to hate her. Not admire her. Well, that's taking notes, though.

She's got a steno pad out. She's like, ah, uh-huh, smart. Top of the list, in bold letters, it says destroy this list. Yeah, no, yeah, she's very much into it. And uh, so I got to talk to her about this. You do. And I'm not, I'm not into that. I don't know.

It's weird. I, I listen, I watch shows that have to do with nothing. So I can't complain, but I'm not into the schadenfreude thing. Like I know, I know there's people out there that are fucked up. I know they do fucked up things. And I signed off on that premise many years ago and got on with my life. I've never sat around and went like,

she killed her, she killed her, she killed her kid and then her husband? And they do that Nancy Grace is up there, her devoted husband of 18 years or God fearing like Yeah, yeah, this happens every day all the time when it happens with an attractive white chick Then we all get involved it happens, you know There's go to Chicago's east side south side. Whatever. There's Little black 14 year old kids shooting each other all day long No one seems to give a shit about it. But when you add a sort of attractive

20 something year old white woman, we all get sucked into it. I mean, it's pathetic. It is pathetic and it's kind of not fair to all the poor 14 year olds in the inner city that are getting gunned down. Because it's like, first off, they're 14, secondly, they were just walking to school

and we have no interest in that. We have to have story and we have to intrigue and blah, blah, blah. And your story intrigue and they got to look right. We're casting them. This is a TV show. You're casting a part. You need somebody who looks attractive to be put, Casey Anthony or whoever it was. The fact that she was an attractive woman

makes for, again, more story. But then again, that's what, that's what holds, but it also is what holds the disdain of other women. Right. Right, that they loved getting up on that girl. Mm-hmm. She was the mean girl from high school,

they used to make me feel bad. So I don't know, they, you know, they killed their husband and then they, and then they start crying on the thing. And the thing, too, that women get away with with up on the stand that guys can't get away with is they can just turn into a heap of tears and then there's no more questions. Like we have to take a recess. Like if I got up there and was like, they'd be like, hey, dude, pull it together.

We got to keep moving here. But they just get the, I can't answer. The other thing I love about this whole trial is it is precisely the plot of the musical Chicago. I mean like precisely. That is so gay of you to know. I know. All right. Let's talk to Pete.

Pete, 39 Walla Walla, Washington. That's me. Pete. How's it going, guys? Good. Hey, real quick question first for Dr. Drew. I was enjoying my last bottle of Mangria and I came in my pants and I was wondering if that's a violent crime or if I just enjoyed it too much. I'm not going to do your bit.

That was rape. That was rape. Rape by Mangria. That was rape by Mangria. Thank you. Okay. What I need to, I need to get some advice from you guys. I inherited a couple guns from an uncle who passed away. And I've been taking an interest in shooting with some friends of mine that all own guns, gone through classes and experienced hunters and whatnot.

When I inherited these, I thought it might be need for my wife and I to learn how to shoot them together and I was going to go out and buy a couple of pistols for us and talk to her about it of course and got the big flat no absolutely not because she doesn't want them in the house and she doesn't want me spending money on guns. And I was wondering if, do I just go by her wishes? Do I pursue it further? Is she generally in your household generally in charge of the finances? I mean, does she tell you, you know,

to lots of things, hobbies and things you get into? Or is it something about guns? I'd say she's a little bit of a gatekeeper, yeah. Is there something about the guns? She doesn't know a whole lot, but she does. But when she's adamant about something, she'll say no, yeah. You think what I'm trying to get at here Adam is that she squashes his hobbies that are expensive or is she something about the guns?

I imagine it's a little bit of both. Well, I think it's got to be the guns. Who's making the money here? Her or you? Both of us. She's a third grade school teacher and I work at a winery and I work for a bank. Okay. And do you have kids in the house? Yeah, we've got two. And see, I don't, I'm, my plan was not to bring them into the house and leave them at one of my friends' house who has a gun locker and all that good stuff.

So, I mean, I thought this out, I feel like. Well, listen, look, here's the thing. As I know, because I come from this culture, there's a gun culture that is not, they're not rational. They're just guns are bad. Governor, what guns are bad? And the reality is, is guns are bad in the wrong hands. And then, as I say all the time, when people talk about these shootings and schools and all what's going on and these guys coming in well they're coming in and they're doing this damage in places where they know they're

not going to meet much resistance it makes sense you're looking for a body count and when you're looking for a body count you don't walk into the police academy and start shooting it up you walk into a second grade classroom and start shooting it up sadly but that's what you do. Now, every single movie I've ever seen where some guy's taken over a subway car and told everyone to lay on the ground, that part where the guy's lying on the ground and the guy next to him goes, I'm an off duty cop, and he lifts his pant leg up and we see his holster and then you go, as a viewer you go, oh good. Like if you were in a subway car that was being taken over

and there was an off duty cop or two that are required to carry their piece with them, well then you'd go, oh good, I'd rather be trapped in that car. I wish that day was career day at Sandy Hook and there was an off duty cop standing up there talking about being, I think we all can all agree on that, right? So are guns, are they bad or are they good? Well, who's got them?

That's the question. Now, to be rational, obviously more kids drown in swimming pools than they do accidental gun deaths. And I'm not a big gun advocate, I'm just a truth advocate. And your wife would definitely, and I didn't make this example up, but your wife would definitely let your kids go play at a house who had a swimming pool, but she probably wouldn't if they had guns. That's interesting. But statistically, the pool is more dangerous. Yeah, it's true. Much more dangerous. I mean, by, I know, tenfold. That's interesting. But statistically, the pool is more dangerous. Yeah, it's true. Much more dangerous. I mean by, I know, tenfold.

That's interesting. So, well, that's how we're wired. We're not wired, and when I say we, I mean chicks. Not wired for statistics, wired for feelings. Yeah. And now, now that we've all turned into chicks, that's how we're all wired. I wrote that book two and a half years ago, and 50 years we'll all be chicks. I had no idea we're fast tracking this thing. I said 50 years. It's six, the way we've been going. So my thing is this. I think it's fine to have a gun.

I think it's fine to have a gun for protection. I do. I don't- You do? Yeah. Your house. Lynette's dad dropped off a pillowcase filled with firearms. What? Yes.

Did you learn how to shoot him? A step? Yes. We recently went out and did it. Where do you keep them? What's so funny? Well, I'm laughing as I've told the story before. He's an NRA guy. He's very progressive, but he's an NRA guy. And he's like, gun safety, gun safety, gun safety, gun safety. And his daughter grew up around that.

You always hold it this way. You don't transport, never loaded, always transport the ammunition into different container and blah, blah, blah. And then one day he drops off a pillowcase filled with guns. And ammunition. A box filled with ammunition. All off a pillowcase filled with guns and ammunition a box filled with ammunition all in one Oh, yeah, and then at some point it all gets pushed into the closet then about a month later. I say

I'm not an NRA guy. I don't have guns. I've never held one. I don't even fired one. I Think you're supposed to have a safe for these things yes, it's not good just to have them floating around. Not in the closet, no. And then it went, yeah, okay. And I ordered a safe. But I can't figure out what he's doing, NRA guy.

Safe should have arrived the week before and then he should have come over with a garbage bag filled with pistols. Well, he's not a bad guy. He's a good guy. But like I said, people act a little differently than they talk sometimes. And I'm usually the one that has to spearhead the what's going on here and why do we got to fix it.

The other thing about the gun thing is the degree to which someone uses it on themselves is not talked about. Like orders and orders of magnitude more likely than using it on somebody else. I have guns and here's what I did. Well, I was given guns. So first thing I did was order a safe.

Well, week three, ordered a safe. The second thing I realized though, having guns in my home for protection is worthless if I do the, we'll put the ammunition in a mason jar and bury it in the backyard and then put the pistol up in the attic. I mean, what good's that do when you hear the window break in the kitchen at 4 a.m.? So I said, let's be realistic if you're gonna have these guns Have them safely but ready ready to use if that's in fact or why you have why do you have them? You know so the first thing I did is

I got a shotgun and I got a 9 millimeter and the first two rounds are non-lethal Rounds I got a 14 round clip and a 9 millimeter and the first round is snake shot It's like the smallest BBs you've ever seen in your life for shooting snakes. It's not gonna kill a human being The next shots will kill you and the shotgun first one six rounds police style to SWAT style pump action First one is six rounds, police style, just SWAT style, pump action. First one is rock salt. Second five will kill you. So my feeling is I don't know why I figured this one out. No one else figured it out.

You have a nine millimeter with a 14 round clip. So now you got 13. That'll kill you. And the first one, if you're running down the stairs and trip and fall Or it turns out to be the neighbor's kid coming in through the window. They're not gonna kill anybody No one else that I've ever heard of from the right for the left NRA How did you how did you develop this technique? Did you go to the ammunition guy and go? Hey, what can we do here to I? started thinking

What would be a non-lethal round? That would still hold somebody back, stop them. Well, no, it's more about chick, chick, boom. And I knew that I could get to the other rounds in less than 3 tenths of a second. When it comes to the 9 millimeter, you could empty the clip in 2 and a half seconds if you had to I mean It's boom boom boom boom boom. Yeah, I mean so if you that first round is no good

You'll get to the next one really fast. Yeah, like I said, it won't be a second. It might not be half a second It'll be right there. So the chick chick boom. I realized the chick chick boom is good enough for 90 percent 99 percent of what ails you when it comes to junkies and whoever coming into your house The chick chick boom the chick chick is is enough with the pump of the shotgun the boom is pretty powerful and I figured out from watching enough, you know, Beverly Hillbillies and Jed Clampett shooting enough Ellie Mays enough, you know, Beverly Hillbillies and Jed Clampett shooting enough of Ellie Mays suitors with the rock salt. I grew up watching cartoons where they shot people with the rock salt and the guy grabbed his ass went, wow, ran off in the distance, they're cartoons, but it's rock salt. So I said, well the whole time I've been

hearing about guns, all I've been hearing about is accidental people being killed accidentally. Kids get hold of the gun, fire the gun, blow the kid's head off, someone trips with the gun, the gun goes off when the guy pulls it out of the locker, whatever, all that. I said, well, let's, now that's, you'd have to be pretty fucking stupid to have that happen twice.

I mean, if your kids get hold of your gun and they're upstairs playing and you hear a boom, let's hope they're not gonna pump it again and get to the, so I said it's only the first round. So let's make the first round a non-lethal round. Cops understand this, they have non-lethal bean bags and rubber balls and stuff like that. But if you need the business,

that'll be right after the non-business. So the shotgun rock salt, that was easy. The nine millimeter, that was harder because I didn't know what snake shot was, but 10 minutes later on the computer, I found out it's a little, looks like a little capsule. You'd like it Drew, it looks like something you eat. It looks like a regular nine millimeter slug,

but the top is clear and it has the smallest little BBs you've ever seen in your life. And there's a hundred of them. And it's for shooting a snake. So my first two rounds are non-lethal. I would get the safe, go with the non-lethal rounds, get her. Oh, there they are. There they are.

Get her prepared. Have her. I went out with my wife shooting. I want her. I go out of town a lot. I want her To be comfortable with her gun when I'm out of town. Yeah. Well, it's there. That's where she comes from I mean she used to go shooting so and it was fun and it was it was I Felt it made me feel responsible. It didn't make me feel bad

I mean it didn't mean feel like a like a gun monger and toting or toting anything. It meant me feel responsible. It didn't make me feel bad. It didn't make me feel like a gun monger. Gun toting. Or toting anything. It meant me say, look, my wife called 911, as I told you the other day, Drew, when somebody crashed into my house when I was on the road and they neglected to dispatch an officer. So I don't have a ton of faith in the system. I don't wave these things around.

They're put away, but they're where I can get them in a hurry if I need to. And to me, that's being a responsible parent, not an irresponsible parent. You're protecting your family, but you're doing it in a very mature, responsible way. Thank you. All right, thank you. Non-lethal rounds, Drew. Interesting. Really interesting.

This one makes me a genius, I think. Yeah. That's why I have to pronounce it. Well, you've said it. I think you've said it. Have you ever heard him say it? I'm not sure I've ever heard you say it. Yeah, yeah, maybe once or twice you've said it.

See, let's talk about me for a second. Everyone always says to me, where'd you learn that? Who told you to do that? I was going, nobody. It's just a simple, it's deductive reasoning. You want a gun, but you're worried about the possibility of shooting yourself in the foot when you're running down the stairs or whatever it is. Good. Make the first round non-lethal. The second question is, do they have non-lethal rounds? Yes, they do. All right. Why everyone in the country has not adopted this and why I feel like people on the right would be cool with this and people

on the left would be cool with it, although I don't know, they'd still argue. But it's hard to argue with that logic, right? Yeah. So no one is gonna get shot unless they really need it or are begging for it at the Corolla house. All right. And the part where you take your own life? Absolutely. There is a def- that's- by the way, they count that the anti-gun people count those statistics

in amongst the lethal uses of a gun, which is kind of spurious a little bit because some people would OD or hang themselves, but they had a gun so they use that instead, but they count those and those account for more gun deaths than others. It's kind of interesting, wouldn't you say Drew? Yep. I would like to, by the way, when you're giving me national statistics on the handgun deaths, go ahead and carve out the ones where the people did it to themselves. It's a big number. It's a big number and you're putting it on top of your point but that shouldn't be the point. If we're doing, you're giving me statistics on fatalities behind the wheel of a car and

you're trying to talk about driver safety, but a large percentage of those people just steered into a brick wall and hit the accelerator on their own, carve them out of your statistical arguments so that I can at least have numbers that I can work with here. Yes Drew? Yes. Okay. Drew. Yes. What shall people do if they would like to help our little pirate ship? They should go to Adam and dr Drew show comm Adam and dr. Drew show comm and click through the Amazon link and Keep the pirate ship of sailing. Mm-hmm. And would they like to donate true? Oh, they can donate by clicking the PayPal Donate button and a Paul

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