The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Victim Hood: Men in Tights (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: June 24, 2023

Adam and Dr. Drew start things off exploring a clip from Samantha Bee's show as they attempt to dissect the language being used and how it is in no way helpful to address the problem that it purports ...to expose. The guys then discuss the opiate problem in America today and how Drew believes that although there were drug companies and states acting irresponsibly, the real story is that of Suboxone and the company behind the so-called treatment drug. They then turn to the phones and speak to a caller looking for a definition of malignant narcissism and another looking for a nice way to broach the topic of his dog sitter's body odor.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to another episode of the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. Kicking it off for today, we have episode 1264, released May 1st, 2020, titled Primitive Narcissism. Adam brings up a clip from Samantha Bee's show as he dissects the language used and how it only serves to exacerbate the issues by instilling victimhood rather than exploring solutions. So I was looking at this episode of Samantha Bee from the other day. And they got into this coronavirus attacking people of color. coronavirus attacking people of color. And again, I always kind of say to everyone, listen to the verbiage.
Starting point is 00:00:53 When I, it always kind of bumps me and repulses me when I hear our mayor, mayor Garcetti, and he'll be talking about the hispanic community and he'll always go these people they they they provide our food they pick our vegetables they clean our toilets and i'm always like they they so us and them that what do you mean they clean our toilets. How does they provide us with food? They pick our food. I mean, what are they serves?
Starting point is 00:01:29 Are you, how do you look at them? Listen, would you clean our toilets? You were a, they cleaning carpets. Yeah. And they do this thing all the time,
Starting point is 00:01:40 but like they'll go, Oh, okay. So you don't want, you want to, you want to beef up the borders fine well then who's going to pick your lettuce it's like well how about we pay people a fair wage to pick the lettuce oh you want to pay six dollars for a head of lettuce i don't know
Starting point is 00:01:58 that's what i pay seventy seven thousand dollars for a car car or we could have slaves make the car and I could get it for $22,000. Is that what you're saying? What, whatever it costs is what it costs. What, what, isn't that the market we've decided? Is that the system we put in place? So anyway, Samantha B., whenever they do this thing where they go, how are these people supposed to take care of themselves or something? I always go, well, that's the ultimate racism, isn't it? These people.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Yeah. But but if you listen to the words, you realize. These people are looking at this group as not equal to them. Right. That's what I'm saying. So here we'll play the clip. We're not able to take care of themselves. Yes. Well, that's implied. Black Americans are more likely to have preexisting conditions due to factors beyond their control. A lot of those pre-existing conditions that make COVID-19 deadly, like heart disease, diabetes, asthma, they're already overrepresented in Black and Latino communities. It's an epidemic jumping on top of a bunch of other epidemics.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Our bodies have borne the burden of chronic disinvestment, active neglect in our communities. All of those insults on our bodies have given us more of these so-called pre-existing conditions. In fact, numerous studies show that black patients have to navigate racial bias in the medical system. They're routinely undertreated for their pain and have to wait longer for medical care than white patients. Meanwhile, access to testing during this pandemic. Let me stop. Can I stop that? Undertreatment for pain insults me because because that that you remember the opioid crisis was whitey.
Starting point is 00:03:59 There was overtreatment in the white population. I always admired the African-American population for not getting into that. Now, we can argue that the way we dealt with this crisis was a racist approach as compared to say we had dealt with the cocaine epidemic, for sure. But to say they were undertreated for pain is a distortion of the reality where Whitey was overtreated. The African-Americans were healthily treated, properly treated. Gary, just go to the opening line one more time and boost up the audio a little.
Starting point is 00:04:31 That really says it all. It's just the first 10 seconds. Black Americans are more likely to have pre-existing conditions due to factors beyond their control. A lot of those pre-existing. All right, beyond their control. I think you can control a lot of these factors beyond their control. I feel like you can control what you eat. That's for sure.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Well, but think about it. You'd appreciate this. If you're a trauma survivor, though, now it's on, right? Right. And so they were about to start a huge program in California to address the trauma and the adverse childhood experiences. So until we deal with that, nothing is going to be changed, unfortunately, because I don't think I don't think. Well, you might be able to diminish the trauma to the next generation. But in terms of this generation, you've got to address the trauma.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Yeah, I agree. I am saying one of them, there's two very dangerous trends that I've been noticing and I've been really drilling down on it, which is removing the control from the individual and saying that the individual has a target on their back. And something I spent some time on last week on my podcast, when I was, had that moment that was very, you know, there, there are two moments I had with my daughter there that, that stick out in memory. And I don't have a lot of those oh my god something's going on moments but uh when i do feel a moment it means something and uh and people are aware both these moments i'll be quick but the one moment was she was about nine or ten and she was walking out to the garage and we were arguing about something and she was explaining you have to apologize because i feel this way and i said I don't have to apologize because I didn't do
Starting point is 00:06:29 anything wrong. The way you feel is wrong. And at some point, Lynette and her sort of looked at me and Lynette went, if she feels that way, then that's the way it is, then apologize. And it's like, and I remember stopping and thinking, oh, we jumped, we jumped the shark. She feels this way. stopping and thinking, oh, we jumped the shark. She feels this way. And she's enlisted an adult to talk about feelings and talk about how valid the feelings were. And thus, this thing must have. So if I feel attacked, then you must have attacked me,
Starting point is 00:06:56 even if you didn't attack me. And then I thought to myself, oh, this is the beginning of the end. Then we got to throw out everything that's ever been written before today because nothing will work anymore right you can you can attack me from 3 000 miles away and uh we can go to court and you can be potty so this is a problem that was one moment the other moment was a couple years later when i came home and she explained to me that she didn't make the volleyball team because the coach hated her those Those were the other big moments. And I got through that one, though.
Starting point is 00:07:27 You you you you careened off that, didn't you? I I miraculously broke it down, talked to her in some way that was digestible to an upset 11 and a half or 12 year old and, and, and used math to get to the truth, which I could then feed her. I had to use math and I had to use a whole sort of system where how many girls tried out, you know, 22 and how many girls made the team 10. Okay. So about half. Okay. And and had to do this whole visualization thing where I said pretend you're sitting in the bleachers of the gym and you're watching these girls try out and you're one of them and and you don't see you don't know who anybody is including
Starting point is 00:08:18 yourself you're just watching them go through their paces. Where would you put yourself? And she literally put herself like one from the end. She's like nine. And I'm like, okay, well now it's kind of a coin toss, right? I mean, anyone could flip out, swap out nine and 10, right? So, and, and, and it worked. The point is it worked, but I did not want her to feel, I didn't want her to lose control. You know, now she's in some other part of the house looking at Zoom and the volleyball coach is giving her a bunch of workout exercises and techniques. And she's knee deep into it because she took control over it. suffers from whatever through no fault of their own or with the inability to control it or change it, you are going to fuck up that group badly. And I'm very aware of that. And I'm not sure why the people who think they're helping, usually rich white people,
Starting point is 00:09:30 rich white people uh feel so casual about graphing this on to a group that could use real help yes yes oh what was you know what was her oh through no fault of their own. Was that her thing? It's been a long, windy road we've taken today. Yeah. Well, listen, people, as I've said many times, if you're going to bring shit up like, hey, we got a problem in this community or we got a problem in that community. If you're going to point shit out, toss in a few remedies. Give us a couple of ideas. Right. I think that's exactly our point, which is we're interested
Starting point is 00:10:12 because we want the charisma out of the leaders and pragma in. We're interested in solving, solving, solving, solving. Right. And you talk telling me that, you know, the mayor of Chicago is going to put together a task force to look at the problem. That's that's not you offering any solutions. I'd like to hear your ideas. Yeah, that's that's me. Next up, it's episode 524, released February 24th, 2017, titled, There is an evil story that's not being told.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Adam and Dr. Drew discuss the opiate problem in America, and Drew points out that despite drug companies and states acting irresponsibly, it is the overprescribing of suboxone that looms most insidiously. I was thinking about how I get frustrated when people are – the opioid epidemic we're in, right? Where people were given way too many oral opiates, continue to be given way too many oral opiates. Like painkillers? Painkillers. to be giving away too many oral opioids. You're talking about like painkillers?
Starting point is 00:11:22 Painkillers. And when they're cut off and they're cut off rapidly for just because they're now strung out and the doctor goes, you're a bad patient, cuts them up, they go to heroin, of course, as opposed to getting these people treated. And everyone I talk to wants to make that the drug company's problem. And I'm telling you, the drug companies had almost nothing to do with it. I mean, almost nothing. I'm sure they were applauding it.
Starting point is 00:11:45 But it was perpetrated by my profession because they were forced by lawyers to treat pain as the fifth vital sign. And it got so bad in, say, Florida. Pain is the fifth vital sign? Yeah, so it's like temperature, pulse, blood pressure, respirations, pain level. And then it became, well, pain is what the patient says it is. Who are you to say what their pain is? And then pain control was whatever the patient says it is. And that got so bad that in certain pain clinics in Florida, it looked like Starbucks.
Starting point is 00:12:20 You could go in and just point at a menu of what you wanted, and that's what you got. Because that's what you say you need to control your pain. Who am I to say a thousand Oxycontin, whatever? Drug companies had nothing to do with that. And doctors aren't paid for prescribing. Pharmacies are paid for prescribing. Doctors are paid for the visit. That's it.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Period. End. That's it. Now, if there are procedures being done, like you're getting infused with an opiate or something, doctors are paid for that. And believe me, they were doing plenty of that. But that, again, was the procedure they're being paid for, not the medication. The medication is a wholly separate phenomenon from physicians.
Starting point is 00:12:57 But there is an evil story with the drug company, and everyone's missing it. And that is how Suboxone has become this thing that everyone has to prescribe. And I think if that story ever gets told, I'm telling you, it got into the National Institute on Drug Abuse and sort of persuaded the director of that program that this is the way to go. And then it persuaded the attorney general, and then there were mandates, and it is being prescribed a lot now. And people are stuck on it. And that, if you want to blame a drug company, let's direct our attention over there, the manufacturer Suboxone, and see how that went down.
Starting point is 00:13:36 That makes sense to me. The Suboxone is supposed to be used to get them off of this stuff? It's supposed to be used to taper them off. Instead, it ends up being this chronic medication that no one ever gets off magically. Yeah, well. I wonder if there's some suppressed information on that flying around somewhere. Well, how does one react on Suboxone? Some people, it's very helpful, and they shouldn't come off.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Some people, it's true, but to have everybody that's on an opiate, this is sort of the way the government is seeing it now. Like every doctor should have 200 patients on Suboxone. I can't handle three and I know what I'm doing. So these doctors that don't know how to handle drug addicts have 200. It's just unthinkable to me. But this is the mandate. And I'm telling you there's something suspicious going on with that story. That's where you want to direct your attention.
Starting point is 00:14:27 But nobody wants to do that because there's big names associated with the other medicines. When you start seeing commercials about the laxatives that are prescribed because you're backed up because of your pain. Not a laxative. It's naloxagol. It's an opioid blocker in the gut. So you can keep taking your opiate but not get constipated. So it's not a, I mean, technically it's not a laxative. No, it just blocks the opioid effect in the gut.
Starting point is 00:14:53 It's always funny because the guys have to get the guys to do those commercials. Yeah. And the guy's always way too together. Oh, of course. He's running a construction site. Yes. He's got his pressed jean shirt
Starting point is 00:15:08 and it's cuffed up and he's looking like Mike Rowe on a good day and he pulls his truck up and he's talking about his pain. And I think the implications that he fell off a ladder or something and dinged up his back and now he has to go to work.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I'd like to see the real face of that guy. On his couch? Well, he's probably not on the job site. No. This guy's on the job site. Gary's showing us a commercial now. But the one I saw, the guy's on a job site. So I've always felt that way about the herpes commercials.
Starting point is 00:15:45 They look too good? No. The thing that's always cracked me up about the herpes commercial is she, it's always two people and they're pushing their bikes through like sequoia trees. For some reason, they're not riding their bikes. They're just pushing them. Well, if you have burning. I never thought about it. There could be some chafing going on. They're pushing the bike through the sequoia trees.
Starting point is 00:16:07 And she's talking about her herpes. He's looking concerned without an ounce of judgment. Of course not. But it's understood that he didn't give her herpes. Right. That's her last bow. And now she doesn't want to give this guy herpes. So she's on her Valtrex.
Starting point is 00:16:28 We're going to protect you. And he has to look understanding without any judgment. Oh, my God. And we're watching a commercial. I take Movantic for OIC, opioid-induced constipation. If you're an opiate, you're not speaking with that rate, first of all. My doctor prescribed opioids, which helped with the chronic pain. That's a nice shot.
Starting point is 00:16:49 By the way, I love the montage of him with the hard hat pointing at the plans, people nodding. Still constipated. Had to talk to my doctor. She said, how long you been holding this in? Oh. That was my Movantic moment. My doctor told me that Movantic is specifically designed for OIC. I'm reasonably cheerful about what's going on in this guy's life.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Don't take Movantic if you have a bowel blockage or a history of them. Movantic may cause serious side effects, including symptoms of opioid withdrawal, severe stomach pain and or diarrhea. I love Hollywood's version of construction sites. Tell your doctor about any side effects. They're like right out of a Sears catalog from the 50s. Movantic may interact with them, causing side effects. First off, nobody wears a hard hat doing residential work. It's great. They're like right out of a Sears catalog from the 50s. First off, nobody wears a hard hat doing residential work. I always love it.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Everyone's wearing a hard hat. Everyone's got the flannel. They have the down vest. There's a lot of pointing. There's a lot of pointing. There's a part where they have the plans, and they're going over the plans and just dragging their finger all the way across. It'd be like you looking at a globe going, oh, yeah, we start in East Africa, and we end up in Santa Barbara. And you're just, like, dragging your finger along.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And no one's going, whoa, whoa, slow down. Wait a minute. How'd you get there? Where do you think? We're in Tripoli. Now we're in Santa Barbara. Anyway, and everyone's, like, sitting and nodding. But the point is pointing down and pointing up. It's the other point he's playing oh he did a double point he went outside and did a point
Starting point is 00:18:09 like out to the rig and then he went over and pointed off to the other side yeah too never never picked that up never they're never sideways or down to the ground it's always down to the plans they got their guys the guys got the hard hats everyone's wearing the hard hats no one wears a hard hat and they're dressed in the thing that like the wardrobe guy would imagine what construction guys would look like like i remember when i was doing uh the hammer and it's like they gave everyone brand new jeans and said and i said what do you think they're wearing brand they all wore their new jeans that day like oh they're jeans you know
Starting point is 00:18:49 it's like they got paint on them they're worked in you know they're must up like oh it's like this is a weird revelation when you do it for a living it's weird but anyway so there's a guy drew he's taking them over antics oh yeah got to have something to counteract the something we shouldn't be giving them in the first place. Well, it's... Something that shows no effect for chronic pain. What has no effect on chronic pain? Has no benefit for chronic pain. There's zero evidence...
Starting point is 00:19:16 What does? ...that opioid pain medication should be used for chronic pain. Oh, really? Yeah. It's the craziest thing. I'll see these position papers where they go, well, now we've looked into this and we've decided there's no objective data to show that opioids are of utility in the treatment of chronic pain. Now, let's talk about how to use these things effectively. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:37 How to reduce it. It's like saying this blood pressure medicine has no effect. So let's figure out the dose we're going to use. Well, can we figure out what chronic pain is? Well, we know what it is. It's a distinction. This is the challenging part about it. There's two components of pain, generally speaking.
Starting point is 00:19:59 One is the somatic component, like when you smash your finger, you're having a soma, part of your body is hurting. And then there's the affective charge, the misery component, the fear component, the emotional component of pain. And they are mediated by two entirely different systems. And when you look at chronic pain, it's guess what? The insula cortex, which is the affective component. Right. It's not the hit the thumb with the hammer. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:28 It's the experience of pain is overwhelming. Yeah. Not the pain itself so much. And so obviously that can be easily manipulated. Well, then you put somebody on opiate and guess what? All of it goes up. Right. It all gets worse.
Starting point is 00:20:44 It's called hyperalgesia. Then you add chronic withdrawal onto that. Now you've got the low back pain. And now you're in real pain. Now you're in severe pain. So if it worked, why would I fight against it? I have no problem. Occasionally you'll find people are going to take two Vicodin in a day or two.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Okay, you stay with that. That is – I just don't know anybody who's does that i don't know anyone who does the painkiller thing i mean outside of the had my wisdom tooth pulled and i'm on this stuff for three days but yeah i other than that i just don't i don't know i just don't see it. And I feel like you're either on, it's either game on or you have no relationship to it. And in a way, you substitute heroin for it, but it's like heroin as well, which is you're either never touched it in your life or it's game on, you know. And it's that same quality. Well, it's a little different in that it's not, you don't see non-addicts going at the heroin. But you do see non-addictive substance abuse with opioids.
Starting point is 00:21:54 In other words, in the sense that the full syndrome of addiction may not be there, but the strung outness is and the pain is and the preoccupations and all that stuff. But a lot of it is just a predisposition and wiring, right? A lot of it is. A lot of it. I had Vicodin talked up to me for a decade. You know, people going, oh, my God, one Vicodin and a light beer, and I'm off, I'm out, I'm whatever, I'm not feeling no pain. And I'm above a Vicodin, Vicodin, Vicodin, Vicodin.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Finally got hand surgery, tried a Vicodin, and it, like, made me fidgety. Yeah. Like, it was like, it made me a little agitated, a little fidgety. I didn't really like it. Listen, I had fentanyl, if you remember, for my colonoscopy, and it just fucked me up. Well. No, in the sense that I had headaches. You get a fucking whisker from a cat.
Starting point is 00:22:44 I know. I know. And you're fucking laid out for three days. But I mean, like, headache and chills and felt had headaches. You get a fucking whisker from a cat when you're fucking laid out for three days. But I mean, I had a headache and chills and felt like, it's horrible. Well, you're lucky in that you're like, that medication you take that makes you violently ill if you drink. Yeah. You're just, your body produces that for every substance. For everything, yeah, it's true.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Even garlic and onions. Like everything that enters your mouth, you could violently have a violent reaction to. So therefore, you could never get strung out on anything because you naturally produce that. Put it in my nose. What can't you eat? Garlic? Green onions and onions. And various spices.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Lots of different spices. But no garlic. No garlic. No onions. And various spices. Lots of different spices. Well, wait. But no garlic? No garlic. No garlic. It's bad. I can't imagine a life without garlic. Although I started taking prebiotics. You ever heard of prebiotics?
Starting point is 00:23:32 It's like a non-absorbable starch. Jamie Lee Curtis wants you to take that? Well, I've started doing that. Wait. What's a non- What's a what starch? It's like a non-absorbable sort of a starch. It's like a bulk.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I'm sure it's just the same thing as like a – But it's not like the yogurt stuff. No. That's the probiotics, which I do that to try to help all this. It's a prebiotic. Yeah. And I think it's helped the garlic thing a little bit. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Because I got exposed the other day and didn't have a reaction. I was like, huh, this looks good. We'll be right back with more of the Adam and Dr. Drew Show classics. Finally, we have episode 855, released June 22nd, 2018, titled Smelly Bitch Hour. The guys go straight to the phones with one caller looking for a definition of malignant narcissism and another who is looking for a nicer way to tell the dog sitter she stinks literally uh josh 39 boulder yeah hey guys how's it going good man what's going on i just i want to know what what the term malignant narcissist means because some people are throwing it around, using it for the president.
Starting point is 00:24:48 And I'm thinking to myself, isn't that someone like Ted Bundy? No, that's a psychopath. That's a psychopath. That's different. Psychopaths have no appreciation of other people existing. And there's usually a sadistic component where they like to, you know, take advantage of people. Malignant narcissist is somebody who doesn't really appreciate other people's feelings, certainly in many states. There's various syndromes out there.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Kernberg is one of the guys that sort of developed the syndrome. And he identified antisocial features, paranoid traits, egocentricity, aggression, that kind of stuff, need for power and control. But the thing about being a narcissist is they usually, in my experience, have horrible relationships with their family because nobody wants to be around them. But when people talk about Trump, I always go, he seems good with his kids. I mean, that was your observation, Adam. That's the part I just go, he may be a narcissist. You have to be a narcissist to be a politician.
Starting point is 00:25:44 You have to be. I just go, I don't, you may be a narcissist. You have to be a narcissist to be a politician. You have to be. My assessment of Trump long before politics was I'm not a Trump kind of guy. You. I am not. And you met him doing The Apprentice. I spent a little time with him.
Starting point is 00:25:59 I did another TV show with him as well. Which one? I don't remember. Naked and Afraid. Just me and Trump. Just in the rainforest. I mean, it's only shot over 14 days. So it's not like you're hanging out that much.
Starting point is 00:26:18 But we're nude. No, I shot the marriage ref and he and i were guests on the show and we sat around backstage and you know blah blah blah yeah um although oh one of my funniest i know you've heard every mom's story but but the best is when he got elected and of course my mom was doing what she does which is like oh my god, my God, what are we going to do? And I always think to myself, she who pays no taxes and owns no property and has no financial obligations and does not have anything in the stock market. And it really does. You sit around and get free cheese. What are you wringing your hands about?
Starting point is 00:27:00 Someone may cut off the cheese supply. Oh, no. What is it that you think? so we may cut off the cheese supply like what is it that you think that you it's like someone living in a one bedroom apartment going hey if this if the nasdaq takes another hit it's like you don't have anything to stop markets what would you care but she cares for the little people but anyway um it was a great maybe she's a malignant narcissist because i said to her like we were saying now she's like oh trump oh boy oh trump and i said i i know him a little bit and i wouldn't worry about and she's like you don't you don't know him and i said what do you mean like you mean i don't know him like you don't
Starting point is 00:27:38 really know what's in the heart of somebody and she's like no you don't know him and i said i do know him i've done some shows with him we've talked and yeah but yeah i said no i know him i mean i'm not saying he's a dear friend of mine but i'm saying i've spent time with him if i saw him he'd go hi adam and then we'd talk yeah but not really and i was like oh i get. Your son can't know the president. That would somehow hurt. Did you say that? I want you to say that out loud one of these days. That's what I'm looking for. I was confused. I know.
Starting point is 00:28:11 I get it. It's not very off. Fondelier, have you ever told your mom you knew somebody and your mom was explaining to you you didn't know that person? Let's say Adrian Zmed from Dance Fever. I can't say that's happening. Gary, how about you? Specifically with Adrian? Specifically. Gary's mom thinks he knows everybody. Adrian Zmed took over. Denny Terrio.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I know Denny Terrio from Dance Fever. No, you don't. Yeah, I do. No, you don't. I was confused thinking she was saying, like, you don't know what's in the heart of Denny Terrio, but you can't tell me I don't know him. I spent time with him on several occasions no yes she can tell you that my mom goes the other way and tells me about people I know who I don't right right right
Starting point is 00:28:54 a dusting of that would be nice in my life so um I said uh I don't know, he's not my kind of guy, but his kids respect him very much, and they seem to have a good relationship. And I judge – Well, you've always said that, and that's the part I go, huh, well, if that's true, and it seems to be, although Tom Arnold told me that he had a little wrinkle with John Jr., but still, I'm judging by what your instincts are good. And that's not a malignant narcissist. Malignant narcissists do not have a good relationship with their family. No one wants to be around a malignant narcissist. When I would hear these stories like Ted Williams hasn't talked to his adult son in 31 years and that kind of stuff, I was like something's wrong.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Right. And I love my kids. And it's stupid to say. But what I'm saying is I fuck around with them all day. I get them in headlocks. I have a good time with them. If my son got to be an adult age male of 40 and basically just sat in, talked to me in 13 years and is not a fan, it would be devastating. It would be devastating to me.
Starting point is 00:30:12 And whatever you said about me, which is, hey, the guy was a New York Times bestselling author. He made some documentaries. He did a Stanford. I would look at myself as a failure if my adult kids didn't have a relationship with me. And to be fair, anybody assessing you would go, hey, he's a bestselling author. He hadn't talked to this kid in 13 years. You'd make note of that. I would make note of it. I would make note of it. And the Trump assessment I had after doing Marriage Ref and especially Celebrity Apprentice where his kids are involved, I said, I think to you, Drew, when I got back, I said, I don't much care for the man, but his kids respect him.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And I respect that. And I look at it as a tell. Just like it's a two-way street. Kids don't talk to you. That's another tell. That's another tell. Thank you. Omaha, Nebraska.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Mike, 35. Mike. Gentlemen, get it on. Get it on, man. What's going on? So I'm looking for some thoughts here from both of you, actually. So here's the rundown. My girlfriend and I live together.
Starting point is 00:31:14 We've got a house here in Omaha. We've got to go to a wedding this weekend. She has a dog, and you can't board him. He's just kind of a halfling. You can't board him. He chooses to go out of crates, et cetera. So we have to get these dog sitters, right, through, like, there's apps, like Rover, I think is the one she uses, where it's essentially a house sitter slash dog sitter comes
Starting point is 00:31:35 and lives in your house while you're gone, right? Mm-hmm. So part of the process is these dog sitters will come and kind of meet you and meet the dog and get a lay out of the land prior to staying at your house. So the gal that we have, and it's the only one that was available, so we're kind of in a bind, she is on the verge of being morbidly obese. And she's got to be maybe in her late 20s, mid to late 20s. But the problem is... I thought those were usually built like russian models yeah yeah go
Starting point is 00:32:07 figure it must be you must have got the one heavy set house sitter dog watcher because normally it's built like claudia shiver but okay yeah well that's that's what i was hoping for maybe that's the reason she's available anyway so that's not the issue at all it's just painting i'm painting a picture here the real issue is is that she doesn't seem to um like bathe man like uh like very greasy hair it looks like she just stepped out of the shower and honestly adam um she like just walked around the house petted the dog okay great ever we'll see you whatever thursday and the house smelled the dog okay great ever we'll see you whatever thursday in the house smelled like body odor after she had left so the question is we're going to cover the couches and such and she has a bed that she's going to stay in a guest bed and all that we're going to cover the couches sheets
Starting point is 00:32:54 yeah but like how do you potentially do you like leave her a note and ask her to shower because and my thing is my girlfriend doesn't want to hurt her feelings but my thing is you might be doing her a favor in the grand scheme of things. Maybe nobody ever told her. Okay. Adam has adopted, the millennials have adopted the Adam strategy. They don't shower. This is, Drew.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Yeah. I was at the supermarket. I'm going to answer Mike's question with a question the other week. All right. A very morbidly obese young lady, probably 23, 26, worked at the market. She was checking out in front of me, and she was kind of doing a thing where it's like, hey, she knew them. Check her.
Starting point is 00:33:36 She worked it. She was punching out, and she was leaving. As she was leaving, she was taking candy bars and peanut butter cups. And the person, the woman behind the counter, they'd gone through this ritual before. She was sort of quickly sliding it into a paper bag and sort of wrapping it up for the shame aspect. No one wants to see the big gal with the candy bars walking around. And they got it. The thing that wasn't put in the bag and sort of just placed front and center was a large fresh pressed orange
Starting point is 00:34:07 juice and it was just there as i was standing behind observing every observing everything silently i was observing the fact that the very heavy set woman was hiding her shame with the rhesus peanut butter cups with the fresh pressed orange juice, no problemo there. I watched this whole sort of ballet take place and I wanted to tap this young woman on the shoulder and say, I know you get that the Reese's peanut butter cups are bad and that the juice is good and might even offset it. Like I am eating something unhealthy, but I'm washing it down with something that is healthy. I want to tell you that that juice is hitting your liver and hitting your system and doing as much damage as the resus.
Starting point is 00:34:52 You think it's good. You think you've done a good thing. I just stood there and watched her realize she was going to take it home. No one was going to say a word. I wasn't going to say a word, but there's a part of me that thought, she's a young woman who's unhealthy. Shouldn't I tap her on the shoulder and go, don't drink that
Starting point is 00:35:10 juice? I tried with Dawson last week. It didn't work. But what I'm saying is... I don't think we live in that world where people will take input as it's intended. But maybe she would have said, thank you. I didn't know that or let me research that. I don't know where my job is as a human being. I would say here. Right here. Educate. I didn't know that or let me research that. I don't know where my job is as a human being.
Starting point is 00:35:26 I would say here. Right here? Educate, you know. I just did it? Yeah. Okay, so what should he do? Start a podcast and talk about the smelly bitch? No, I don't think he can really do anything.
Starting point is 00:35:38 It's Mike from Omaha. We're back to Smelly Bitch Hour. Anyway, this chick was like, she funkified the carpet. She fucked up her throat pillow. And I got her some Axe. Have Axe spray pointed throughout the house? I did what I call an Axe trap. There's a pit I dug in the living room.
Starting point is 00:36:04 She falls in and lands on an axe. I don't know. What can he do? I don't know. I used to say with Drew, approach it like a medical thing. Yeah, sometimes you can. Like, hey, I was watching this thing, and they said if you had an ulcer or a thing, it would give off, and it smelled like popcorn, and I'd smell that on you.
Starting point is 00:36:24 You should get checked out. You might have this ulcer or something. All right. Maybe you could say, you know, daily showers in our household. We appreciate that. Just leave a little. I don't know how you get around it. I don't know how.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Well, the philosophical question, just like me at the checkout at the Gelson's, was what is my obligation to tell this person who has a health problem that she's doing something that is hurting her? That's the obligation side. This is how does he wants to protect his household. It's true. She could go full helter skelter. Thanks for listening to another installment of the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. New episodes drop on Saturdays, so don't forget to check back weekly.
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