THE ADAM BUXTON PODCAST - EP.149 - RÓISÍN MURPHY

Episode Date: February 21, 2021

Adam talks with Irish musician and former Moloko member Róisín Murphy about hotel room destruction, her childhood in Ireland, mispronouncing Irish names, and memories of 9/11, among other things. Adam and Róisín also collaborate on a song that contains some tips for staying positive.Conversation recorded remotely on 5th February 2021.Thanks to Séamus Murphy-Mitchell for production support and Matt Lamont and Scott Edwards for conversation editing.If you need help making your podcast, check out Matt and Scott's Podmonkey website.Podcast artwork by Helen GreenRELATED LINKSADAM BUXTON'S BLOGRÓISÍN MURPHY'S YOUTUBE CHANNELRÓISÍN MURPHY - MURPHY'S LAW (ACOUSTIC, LIVE AT HOME FOR FESTIVAL MARVIN 9.5) - 2020 (YOUTUBE)RÓISÍN MURPHY - THE TIME IS NOW (ACOUSTIC, LIVE AT HOME FOR FESTIVAL MARVIN 9.5) - 2020 (YOUTUBE)MOLOKO - THE FLIPSIDE (Directed by Garth Jennings of Hammer and Tongs) - 1998 (YOUTUBE)RÓISÍN MURPHY - MURPHY'S LAW ON THE GRAHAM NORTON SHOW - 2020 (YOUTUBE)CLIVE DAVIS DOCUMENTARY - THE SOUNDTRACK OF OUR LIVES - 2017 (NETFLIX)BUCKS FIZZ - 1st RECORDING OF 'WHAT'S LOVE GOT TO DO WITH IT' - 1982 (YOUTUBE)TINA TURNER - WHAT'S LOVE GOT TO DO WITH IT - 1984 (YOUTUBE)ABOUT NEW TINA TURNER DOCUMENTARY 'TINA' - due for release in March 2021 (HBO WEBSITE) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I added one more podcast to the giant podcast bin Now you have plucked that podcast out and started listening I took my microphone and found some human folk Then I recorded all the noises while we spoke My name is Adam Buxton, I'm a man I want you to enjoy this, that's the plan. Hey, how are you doing, podcats? Adam Buxton here.

Well, what a difference one week makes. This time, last week, I was stomping through thick snow out here in the East Anglian countryside, where I take my walks and record my intros for the podcast. And of course, usually I'm accompanied by my best dog friend, Rosie, a Whippet Poodle Cross. Last week, she was not with me because she wasn't well. She had a mysterious reaction to, well, we don't know what was wrong with her, but she wasn't eating. And she spent the following week refusing to eat,

going in and out of the vet. They were unable to find anything obviously wrong with her, but she just didn't want to eat. It was very distraughtening. Eventually, we just had to take her back in to the vet, and they put her on a drip while they continued testing to see what was up, while they continued testing to see what was up, and they just weren't able to find anything definitive at all. So it remains a bit of a mystery, but I'm glad to say that she is now eating,

and they had to put a tube down her. Oh dear, I mean, poor dog. The tube was to feed her food, right? To get something into her stomach to get some nutrition in there. And that seemed to successfully kickstart the impulse for her to want to eat. But she came back from the vet with all these patches of fur missing from where they had to shave her and attach drips and test things. Poor dog. She looks as if she's been scrapping with some very violent rabbits. And she's all a bit discombobulated still.

And though she is eating, her tummy is sensitive. Listen, I'm giving you too much info here. But I know that a lot of you would want to know she is OK, and I'm glad to say that she does seem to be, and she's up ahead as I speak. Didn't know if she was going to come, actually. She seemed zonked this afternoon. But there she is with my daughter on a really beautiful balmy afternoon. One of those kinds of February days that seems to suggest that spring is on its way. Now, I'm not going to be that easily fooled. No, sir. I've had that before. And you think,

springtime, I'm going to get my shorts out. And then a week later, it's absolutely freezing again. But still, I'm not complaining. Now, let me tell you about my guest for podcast number 149. My daughter is standing with her hands on her hips, looking at me like, this is not a good father-daughter walk. You're just talking into a recorder for your stupid podcast. Is that what you're thinking? Not yet. Not yet?

Ten minutes more than you. All right. Ten minutes I've got. So, podcast number 149, which features Irish singer-songwriter, producer and director, Roisin Murphy. Roisin facts.

Roisin, currently aged 47, grew up on the east coast of Ireland, then moved to England with her family in the mid-1980s. After a few years living and studying in Manchester, Roisin moved down the road to Sheffield, where she met musician Mark Brydon, with whom she started a romantic relationship and a band, Moloko. Originally considered to be part of the trip-hop music scene in the second half of the 90s, the band found wider commercial appeal in 1999 when a house remix of Moloko's track Sing It Back

by German producer Boris Delugos propelled the band to number four in the UK charts. A year later, in 2000, they enjoyed the biggest hit of their career with the song The Time Is Now. Roisin and Mark parted ways after the release of their 2003 album Statues, and two years later, in 2005, Roisin released her debut solo album Baby Blue made with experimental British producer Matthew Herbert. A further four Roisin Murphy albums and a number of EPs made with a variety of producers have followed since then and her latest Roisin Machine released last year 2020

winningly showcased her gift for combining electronic experimentalism with an appreciation for a floor-filling dance anthem aesthetic. And it topped a number of snobby music critic end-of-year polls, which is the main thing. With the COVID pandemic making it impossible to promote Roisin Machine with the usual live concerts, to promote Roisin Machine with the usual live concerts. Roisin, who has directed her own excellent music videos since 2015, threw herself into delivering brilliantly visual virtual performances of hits and new tracks at a number of online events last year. You will find links to some of those in the description. My conversation with Roisin was recorded remotely towards the beginning

of this month, February 2021, with me in Norfolk and Roisin in Ibiza, to use the proper pronunciation, where she and her two children, along with her Italian music producer romantic partner got stuck when lockdown three kicked in. As well as talking with Roisin about hotel room destruction, growing up in Ireland, my bad Irish accent and how to avoid giving offence by mispronouncing Irish names, you will hear at the end of our conversation the results of a remote musical collab between myself and Roisin. She had indicated before we spoke that she would be up for providing some mainly spoken vocals for one of my jingles. So, taking advantage of the offer, I found a nice bit of library music and we got collabing. Back at the end for a tiny bit more waffle, but right now with Roisin

Murphy. Here we go. Ramble chat Let's have a ramble chat We'll focus first on this Then concentrate on that Come on, let's chew the fat And have a ramble chat Put on your conversation coat

And find your talking hat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, How are you doing, Roisin? I'm good, yeah. I've been kind of trapped in Ibiza since Christmas, and it's been nice. Worst places to be trapped? Yes. What is the worst place you've ever been trapped? I was trapped when, do you remember when they had the volcano cloud dust all over Europe?

Yeah, man. 2011? Yeah, it was the first gig I did after I had my first child. And it was a DJ gig for some fashion people in Milan. And I couldn't get out. And I begged to get onto the Chemical Brothers private jet, but they weren't interested in taking me. I begged to get onto the Chemical Brothers private jet, but they weren't interested in taking me. Then I found some people, random people,

and ended up going to Rome for a few days. And I was having a great time in Rome, but my father kept ringing me. He was watching Sky News, you know, and he'd ring me and he'd say, I don't think this thing's ever going to finish. It's really going to be bad. So in the end, I had to kind of try and get out by train i went up to the train station couldn't get a ticket because there were thousands of people

waiting it was like a war zone people trying to get out of sort of nazi poland or whatever not quite as bad well no but it wasn't good and um yeah couldn't get out and then i saw this sort of dutch man kind of looking a bit hyperactive and going around and he came up to me and he went, we've just found a minibus that's willing to drive us to this town in Holland. So I got on the minibus. It took about 29 hours to get to this place,

which was like this modernist hellhole of a town that I didn't even know the name of. It was like something out of a J.G. Ballard. I didn't know where I was, but my brother, meanwhile, had driven from Ireland to Holland because he knew some lads in Holland as well. He would swing by to see the lads on the way. So we stayed with his friends on the side of a road somewhere in Holland

and we did a night there. And then we drove through France together and then we went on a ferry which took 20 hours to the south of Ireland and then we drove up and just as I got home they started doing the flights again. But did you have fun? I mean are you someone that enjoys that kind of adventurous travel? Obviously that's not ideal adventurous travel but still it's the kind of adventurous travel. Obviously, that's not ideal adventurous travel, but still, it's the kind of thing that some people have been able to write books about. I do, as long as one of your parents aren't ringing you going, your child, you left your child and it may never lift and all this. I could have had a great time. In fact, I was having a

great time. I mean, I could have kicked myself. No, I i mean i'm well able for it maybe i have a bit of um kind of gypsy blood yeah i'm really good at like immediately i get onto a plane and immediately i fall asleep it's like a plane puts me asleep oh wow that's great like a baby in the back of a car that's right yeah i can't stay awake in a plane so it's i've done touring that's been on on paper, not possible. Especially weekends at, you know, the festivals when you've got a gig in Lisbon one night and Istanbul the next, and then Moscow the next night, you know. And you're sort of, you're not on a tour bus. There's no pace to it.

It's all madness, like people just, like, rushing endless boxes of gear through airports at 6am and the drama of it all and you know sleep sometimes has not been figured into the equation yeah once that happened and um there was a terrible nightmarish schedule for the weekend and our way of dealing with it is just to drink more and the things weren't going right we We had the wrong crew around us. You know, me and Eddie, Eddie Stephens, who's the keyboard player and my musical director, a great character,

has been with me since I was a kid, you know, doing this thing. And he is brilliant at what he does. A bit of a union man and all, but he's absolutely brilliant. And started drinking when we left London and didn't really stop didn't have time to stop you know there was no time you sleep when you're asleep you don't drink on tour so anyway everything went a bit peep-tongue and I won't I didn't wake up because I'd sort of tried to sleep and I'd had an hour and a half skip in the hotel and got up and found the whole place in disarray it was about 5 a.m in the morning we were leaving and eddie had destroyed a hotel room in a classic rock and roll fashion

somebody came up to me went look eddie's broke up the hotel room i said he did not fucking break up the hotel room they said he did he did i said i need to go up and have a look at it so i went up went into the room he pulled the television off the wall right smashed that he broke the table he pulled down the curtains off the wall he broke the glass table he took the glass and he shredded um the sofa with the glass eddie and so you know we had these evil people like we had a tour manager who could be in a panto as a baddie i mean she really was she was out to get every musician every lazy immoral arrogant musician she could get well at least i think so but it was actually comic it was so bad.

And yeah, he broke it up, broke up the place, pulled the cupboards off the walls in the bathroom. It was the shredding. It was the using of the broken glass to shred things. Sure. I mean, obviously there is a tradition of that kind of behaviour that was phased out really after the 70s. It wasn't for the same reasons. It wasn't for the same reasons. It wasn't for 70s reasons, somehow. It was for millennial reasons.

It was for, it was what is happening to my music world? Who are these people? What are they putting us through? It was pure alienation on his part. And I came downstairs and I paid for it. And we got into the bus. I never spoke to him again. How much does that cost?

It was, I never spoke to him again. No, I never spoke about it again. And it was about, I think it was about three grand. Jeez Louise. Eddie. I mean, were you not worried about him though? I mean, I'm the kind of person... I wasn't worried about him because I know Eddie, you know,

and I knew it was like, it was time to face it and change the situation. Because like... I think Eddie would have to go. It's not going to be Eddie. It's going to be you, love, and you, dear, who went to, you know, college to learn how to be a tour manager. Right. This is what I mean by sort of millennial problem, really.

It was a clash of millennial problem, really. It was a clash of culture, really, that didn't work out. Okay, all right. Wow, that is a big clash of culture. But Eddie is your, did you say he was your tech guy? No, he's been the musical director for the live thing. Musical director? Yeah, everything hinges on what he achieves with that. And really, he lifted it to another level when he came involved with us loads of years ago.

Okay, so he is definitely an important piece of the puzzle. I understand that. But what's wrong with a terse email? I know, but I think there had been plenty of terse emails. And also, his emails can be quite sort of psychedelic in a way and difficult for him. Okay. He does a lot of spreadsheets. Psychedelic spreadsheets.

Whoa, that is expressing the hell out of yourself, isn't it? I don't think I could do that. I just bottle it all up. He's not that kind of big rock and roll. I mean, he's a booze man, as he says himself, a booze man. But he's a, you know, he's a nice, man, as he says himself, a booze man. But he's a nice, sensible boy from London. Oh, man. And so did you...

I've had a bit of a hectic day today, I wasn't going to say, because it's a bit unprofessional to offload my domestic gripes onto you. Go on. But I had a bad phone call earlier in the day and I sort of screwed up a situation, a professional situation. I was talking about becoming involved with a creative project and then I had some doubts and I had to pull out. And when I told the people I was pulling out, the phone call just went badly. And I totally lost control of my breathing. Oh, dear. So, yeah, I was pulling out, the phone call just went badly. And I totally lost control of my breathing. Oh, dear.

So, yeah, I was really struggling. I had to take long pauses in between every word I said, because I was really in trouble regulating my breathing. You know what I mean? Have you ever had that? No. No, I don't get them type of things. I'm very decisive, though. Are you an indecisive person? That can be rather difficult for people. Yeah, I'm indecisive. You want all of the worlds. No, I don't want all of the world. Maybe I did at one point, but now I just want a very small corner of it. And actually, that's what I've got in a way. And I had got out of the groove of collaborating and being involved

in other types of projects because I'm so used to just generating things myself and marching to the beat of my own drum so evidently I think maybe I didn't do a good job of negotiating this professional situation I was in but I got the sense that he felt I had been a dick and it didn't feel good. You don't like to be a dick, do you? No, I don't. I do my best to avoid rubbing people up the wrong way, but sometimes it's just not possible, is it? Are you someone that, how do you deal with falling out with people and making enemies

and things like that? Well, I don't know about making enemies. Have I made any enemies? Have you heard of some enemies of mine? No, I haven't. No, no, you don't have a reputation. You know, I try to be straight up, you know, like my nana was when she ran a business.

I just sort of, you know, you stand with me. And I think decisiveness is becoming a bit of a lost art form. People are choosing not to answer the texts, are choosing not to answer the question, are choosing not to be clear. And it gets on my nerves. Sort of like kind of selfish, kind of like, no, I want all the time to make up my mind

whether I'm, you know, even going to meet you for dinner next week. And I am a believer that you tell people up straight what you feel. But, you know, can't decide straight away, can you, about some things. You have to think it over within reason. Right. You do have to sugarcoat things somewhat. Sometimes the unvarnished truth does no one any favors really you can be diplomatic when you're breaking bad news to someone or disagreeing with someone or

are you blunt to the point of offensiveness sometimes sometimes okay if i'm going to be fair to i can be and i can be a bit scary, I suppose. Oh. Of course, you're going a bit deep here, aren't we? I am a softy-bofty in the end. I'm a squirrel-lion, you know? I'm sort of part squirrel, part lion. This is what the children tell me, anyway.

Yeah. And what are you if you were two animals, mixed, merged? I'm like a sort of pig-rat. No, you're not you're much more of a i'm a rabbit weasel a beagle ferret i mean i look a little bit like a badger at the moment you are badgerish but they're mean those badgers mean they are aren't they they don't want to cross a badger really, but they're mean, those badgers. They are, aren't they? You don't want to cross a badger, really. Imagine being mauled by a badger in the dead of night.

It would be awful. A big old badger. Depends. Some people might like a bit of badgering. It's not that kind of badgering. No. No, thank you. No.

No. Now, Roisin, I had an idea. I was sort of reading through your bio a little bit and finding out bits and pieces about your life. And I started reading it out to myself in an amon andrews voice that's the theme tune from this is your life for our younger listeners did you used to watch this is your life yeah yeah my nana used to watch it it was a tv show in which Eamon Andrews who was an Irish entertainer presenter yeah but he was also like before he

became the presenter of this is your life he had a singing career I think oh had he I think he did other entertaining stuff and then he became the host of this is your life probably because of all the entertaining stuff he did but Eamon Andrews was the host of this Is Your Life, probably because of all the entertaining stuff he did. But Eamon Andrews was the host of This Is Your Life. And he would surprise people, celebrities and sports people and people with an interesting life. And he'd turn up with his big red book and he'd say, this is your life. And they'd be backstage just about to go on and do a play or something. Or they would think they were doing something else. And then suddenly Eamon Andrews would show up with the big book, which was like

an album of all the great things they'd done in their lives and all the friends they'd met and the famous people they'd hung out with. And all those people would be there in the studio, or they'd take them to the studio where all these people were, and then they'd run through their lives. A reunion, yeah. So I was going to do something like that with you, and we could gallop studio where all these people were and then they'd run through their lives a reunion yeah so i was going to do something like that with you and we could gallop through in a very superficial way your life what do you think about that bring it on i'm going to start out trying to do an amen andrew's impression oh god roshi because he was quite there was quite an American twang to him. Roisin Marie Murphy. You were born in Arklow, County Wicklow, Ireland in 1973.

And then you jump in. I was indeed. Eamon, you know yourself. Arklow, of course. Famous from the Van Morrison song, The Streets of Arklow. Do you like that song? I do. I do. I love that album. do i love that album mad for it

absolutely mad for it it's great isn't it reading fleeting fleece yes what's our glow like paint us a little picture well i mean our glow has changed over the years it was very prosperous when i was growing up in a way because it had very high employment uh several things going on there there was a factory there and there was a whole area that made pottery in China and all this sort of stuff. And so everybody had a job and everybody had a great time as well at the weekend. They were known for having a four-day weekend in the 70s.

So start on Friday and end on Monday night. Pot of time! It was, it was growing up like the adults around me were you know i mean it's been hard to top i know eddie breaking up the hotel room and everything um but still my parents are the most rock and roll people i've i've known are they for good and for bad so what was your average weekend like thenads of parties and they had a kind of international crowd as well because they had loads of people come over from America in the summertime, young people their age and stay all over the area. You know it was just the best time ever you know there were no mobile phones, everybody able to sing 25 songs, you know everybody able to drink until six in the morning with not needing anything else to do so.

And they seemed very glamorous to me, you know, and very, the memories are very hazy and rose-tinted, I guess, of that time and dancing to music with them till, you know, all day on a Sunday we used to go to these jazz dues and I'd be just getting into music. Music was just everywhere as well, I mean, and song was everywhere. Everyone sang something when they had a few drinks,

whether you had accompaniment or not, whether it was appropriate or not even. And my dad sings in the bath, in the bed, in the walking down the street, in the car. And my dad knows so many songs, so many songs. And that's obviously, without having to think about being a songwriter or into music, and I fell into it, but it was there, you know.

It was in me because of that. It was just everywhere. Was your dad a musician himself? No, no. My uncle was a great, great, great musician, fantastic. But my dad, just a pub singer, you know, but a good one. Very funny one, very witty. He's very ironic, my father.

And he has a great outlook, very interesting, individualist in the best way, sort of way of looking at things. And my mother, great eye, great beauty, she was a great beauty, and not particularly good at toeing the line either. going to tone the line either. She told me a great story about when she was pregnant and they lived down in my father's town when they first got married. And she was having a bit of how's your father with me dad.

At lunchtime, he'd come home and she came out of the bedroom and the priest had let himself in to the house and was sitting in the sitting room on the chair and he was disgusted with her why aren't you allowed how's your father in your own house she was pregnant and they weren't going to mass either he was he was gone down to tell her to go to mass uh since she'd moved into the town

she hadn't been to mass and let himself in right and then of course he must have heard the goings on and he was even more disgusted that's not fair and he told her he wouldn't be baptizing that child in the church there yeah so my mom was like that's all right i'm getting baptized in dublin anyway go on about your business but that's the way it was you know that's the sort of way what they were up against but you know they were trailblazers i guess them and their friends and that kind of you know moving on into a kind of modern Ireland I guess they were very interesting people and it was a good way to grow up. Can I ask you if religion was a big part of your life when you were growing up was it important

to you? It was everywhere in the place you know it was in I went to a Catholic school if I didn't go to mass I got in trouble in school so you couldn't get away from it. If I didn't go to mass, I got in trouble in school. So you couldn't get away from it. But it didn't preoccupy you and you didn't live in fear of hellfire if you did something wrong. My mother wasn't going, you're going to go to hell if you wear a short skirt or anything. But there was a background of that, that it was very easy to transgress, especially if you're a woman. Very easy to not be doing the right thing. And yeah, I got that and I got that in spades and I put people's backs up quite early on in my life. Having not been brought up like that and not expecting anything other than to be free.

I've had an interview. You were starting to make me feel a bit like that interview I did in Ireland when you started that thing, which went, it was a TV interview, and I went out there, and it's an interesting concept. You know, he doesn't know, well, he didn't know who I was, but he doesn't know who he's getting, so he hasn't done any, he gets a surprise who's coming on. Yeah.

And I think he didn't have a clue who I was, really, or somebody might have said down in his ear it's her, you know, sing it back you know, Maloko. And he just kept saying to me, I mean Roisin you're so confident now, aren't you so confident? You're just so confident, aren't you? And I'd start talking about something else

and then he'd go, aren't you so confident though? I mean you really are confident. You know it took me aback and, and I kind of didn't say, probably for good reason, but I didn't say, why shouldn't I be confident? You know, I kind of went, yeah, I am confident. My father, my mother made me feel confident and I was diddly diddly and I tried to explain. explain but as well like that should be a baseline actually that people are confident you know take confidence away from people they can't function

you have to have some confidence and then you feel you have to kind of backtrack and say but you know I've got feelings you know I am what was the name of the interview it wasn't Tommy Tiernan was it? It was Tommy Tiernan yeah and aren't you just so confident? But he's being a wind-up, though, isn't he?

I mean, that's his thing, is to be a bit random. I don't think he was winding me up about that. I just think he couldn't think of much else to say. But it was a good concept, that, though. You jump out there. But it's very hard for the guest as well, who feels they have to kind of... Explain themselves.

It's a bit more like therapy than a talk show. It's strange. Well, it's a bit like when you're at a party and maybe you're with family or friends of your in-laws or something like that, and they've got no idea who you are. And someone sort of says, so what do you do? And you have to kind of go, oh, God.

Well, you know, and then you think about, like, which bits of what I do am I going to try and explain? And also, which bits do you want to believe that I do? You know, in this case, in the case of, say, you're on television or whatever, what do you want me to, I don't know. It was, it was weird. It was weird. And I was cringing and I didn't ever want to see it when I actually had done it. Do you ever get that as well? I get that every time. Do you get that every time? Yes. When I first started doing things on TV with Joe Cornish back in the day, and actually before then when I did stuff on my own. So I think

about 1994 or 95. And I couldn't believe I was on TV on tiny shows that no one watched, you know, in the middle of the night, but still TV. Oh my God, I couldn't believe I always wanted to be on TV. And suddenly I'm there. And I would tape everything. And I would tell everyone and I would watch it. And I'd get people over and sit them down. A couple of times it was really fun. We had a party the first time when our first ever Adam and Joe show episode aired. We went over to my parents' place and invited some friends over and had a bit of champagne. And my parents were there.

It was really fun. That was great. And the show was good and everyone liked it. And everyone's like, yeah, you're on TV. That was a wonderful night. And it was never quite the same thereafter until very quickly it got to the point where you'd be watching things with people

and they'd go, yeah, are you pleased with that? And you'd go, well, do you not like it? It's not really my kind of thing. Oh, I've had that a few times with my family. You know, I had it with my uncle, who was the great jazz musician guy, and I played him the first solo record, and it was excruciating. Oh, no. What did he say?

It's just like, what are you doing? You were doing so well in Moloko. Oh, God. You know, it was like, it's just because it wasn't actually, I realized it was a weird record when I played it to him. Do you know what? Me mammy loved it. She was like, you don't know what you're talking about, Jim Terrell.

She's got it. She's done it on her own. Yeah, man. This is Ruby Blue you're talking about, right? It is, yeah. Yeah. And how was that different in your mind from what you were doing with Moloko? Well, I mean, it was just, I should say it's fantastic to be a solo artist

because every time you work with someone on a big project and you go deep into something and it's a new person, it's a whole new world, you know. If it was a band, you'd be going back in with the same people year in, year out to try and create something new and fresh. And obviously I was in a band before that. I stopped before it ever got to an issue. But it's nice to change.

And he's just got a completely different... I don't know if you know anything about him. Who are we talking about here? Matthew. Right. Matthew Herbert. Who is your musical about here? Matthew. Right. Matthew Herbert. Who is your musical collaborator on your solo album? On that first one, on that very first one, yes.

Right, okay. He's sort of like an intellectual. He's kind of got dogma about how he works and creates everything from scratch. So he'll make songs out of chickens being killed and he doesn't use any synthesizers. He doesn't like synthesized sound. Why do you need presets, presetted sounds?

You can just throw things in. And it was amazing to work with him because he made me bring stuff in from my life. We made sound out of objects that mean things to me. And he made recordings of me dancing and moving. Everything about sound, about me, interested him. And to make an album that was a Roisin Murphy album, he made it out of sounds that really were everything about me.

So, with a microscope on me. But it meant that pretty much any sound I made, he liked it. So, it was a great place to start, having not had that kind of experience before and feeling a bit unconfident going into it, feeling like, oh, I might need my boyfriend, you know, that I've been with all these years and make a record the way I have always made it.

But no, I jumped in, but he was the perfect person to do it with. OK, I'm going to return to the Eamon Andrews style now, because you mentioned the fact that, Roisin, after you moved to England from Ireland, aged 12 in the mid-' 80s, you stayed in. What do you think the accent's like? It's not too. I think it'll probably sound worse on the podcast than it does in the room. I think you're right.

Maybe I'll leave it alone. Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. It's nice to do that. It feels good. You grew up in england in the mid 80s i don't know where i'm going now and then when your parents divorced they moved back to ireland and you decided to move to manchester oh no you stayed in manchester where you had been living with your parents and so after they moved back having separated you hung out in manchester just at the time when it was becoming

madchester that's it come on now she's gonna lose her irish accent you know i mean i'm gonna start talking about them times they start going like that but um oh it was wonderful what were you then? Were you studying or were you just... Studying A-levels. The old blag A-levels, the theatre studies, the communication studies and the art. So I didn't have to worry very much. And I had a flat that was like ten minutes away from my little college.

And all my little mates went to my little college. And all my little mates, mums and dads and them, lived around the area. So I didn't have to move out of the area. And I got an excellent little flat, which had a shared bathroom and a shared hallway between my lovely bedroom and my lovely sitting room, which had a little kitchen off the back. And then it went out into a really beautiful garden, actually. And I had an outdoor toilet of my own and it had an orange circular sofa which made me take the flat

initially in the toilet not in the toilet no in the living room and it was ace it was ace and people used to come around and listen to derrick and clive When you were in Manchester, though, Roisin, were you enjoying... No, I've got to stop this because it's just not cool. You're in Manchester and are you going round to the Hacienda? Yeah, I went a few times to the Hacienda. I went a lot of times and got turned down because I was too young. I'd get past maybe a couple of the fellas on the door, but then there was this woman on the door who was, like, evil,

and she spotted all the young'uns coming in. She'd pull you into a separate room and question you about three questions. No, you're out. So that happened a few times, and I did get in there a good few times, and I wasn't mad for the hacienda, you know. Why not? Too big.

Don't like clubs where there's a lot of transient movement going on, you know. I don't like getting where there's a lot of transient movement going on, you know. I don't like getting caught in a flow of people going from one room to another or one space to another, one level, one mezzanine, one cool thing that was designed by an architect to another. I like a club club. So for me, I used to like the kind of clubs that were either, that had been like real Sharon Tracy clubs and then they would be taken over. So, you know, you'd have like a big discotheque

and you walk in, beautiful wooden floor and proper discotheque lighting that costs a fortune to put in and then soft furnishings and no windows and nowhere else to go but just to where there's this amazing sound system and amazing music. So there was a few clubs like that in Manchester. I mean, I have had good nights out in warehouses. I don't like dancing on concrete and that either.

I like a ballroom. Nice sprung floor or some underlit, staying alive type flooring. Yeah, a bit of like studio line, you know, type disco shenanigans. And maybe the clubs call something like Monroe's. And there's some like neon pictures of Marilyn Monroe in there. Sure. Those types of places. That's the way I used to roll mainly.

Sinatras with a C. Sinatras, yeah. And what were you listening to around that time then? What were your favourite bands? Before I really got into clubbingbing i was into more alternative rock so i was into sonic youth and but all surfers and big black and my brie valentine and pixies pixies loved the pixies throwing muses and things like that and then leading out of that you had your kind of um when uh they had started having those crossover hits like a primal scream and that everything was melding at that point and um i start going clubbing and i

got really into sort of futuristic music and i got a right buzzer of thinking that i was on the vanguard of music culture and pursued it and found a lot of it in sheffield actually kind of much more futuristic vision there coming out of the studios there not that i was in any many studios i did go in a strawberry studios when i lived in stockport which was 10cc studio they had built okay it was beautiful it was all wooden and had a big central kind of common room with the studios off sort of circle. And I met Martin Hannity. No way. One day I was in there, yeah, and he was lovely but a bit sweaty.

And we all watched VHS tapes of Joy Division in the common room. So when would this have been? I would have been 16, 17, so 1990, 1989, 1990, something like that. Right. Yeah. So it was when you moved to Sheffield, you just have to imagine the Eamon Holmes, Eamon, you just have to imagine the Eamon Andrews accent now. Eamon Holmes, can you do Eamon Holmes?

Can you do Eamon Holmes, can you do Eamon Holmes? Can you do Eamon Holmes, though? Can you go Northern Irish? No way. How does that sound? I can't do a Northern Irish accent. I think maybe it's because it's like the nationalist background has programmed my brain to not be able to hear the... Because I can do any other accent.

I just can't do a Northern Irish. 68, Ballymurphy. Like, all I can say is situation, which I got off. You know that film with Brad Pitt in? And he's Iron Man. And he keeps saying situation. And I kept them there. So it became a Brad Pitt-tiation, a Brad P-situation.

Yeah. There's some very very bad irish accents in one of those harrison ford uh patriot games films in fact maybe it's even patriot games and they have sean bean and his brother is a terrorist and he gets killed and he's really upset about it and sean bean Bean doing an Irish accent. I think so. I think I'm getting that right. And it is absolute dog shit. Well, I'm sure. Apparently there's one that's come out now that's actually, you know,

they're actually saying it's racistly bad. Like that it's like they've made some Hollywood movie. Did you read about it recently? Yeah, that's the, it's up for a load of awards, I think. It's all kind of chocolate boxy cliche of quaint Irish folk and lovely countryside. And who's in it? Like somebody like Angelina Jolie or someone is like some Irish mammy. Emily Blunt is in it?

Emily Blunt. And Christopher Walken is in it. Oh, it can't be bad then. I'd love to hear his Irish accent. And he's doing an Irish accent as well. And apparently it's called Wild Mountain Time is the name. I just looked at it. Wild Mountain Time.

And it's, yes, ridiculed for Christopher Walken's extremely odd Irish accent. Yeah. What's this? It says, Wild Mountain Time trailer mocked for very upsetting Irish accents. This is worse than the famine, says in quotes although it doesn't say see you don't you don't get away with things the way you used to not anymore that's what someone's been saying they switched off the this podcast in disgust after i did my third eamon andrews impression saying this is worse than the famine. That was good, though.

That one was. That's like a Dublin accent you just done. That was the best you've done, strangely. Okay, let's see to what extent you're sensitive to this kind of thing. Because when we started exchanging emails in the run up to this conversation, I was very careful to put all the correct accents acute accents on the o and the second i of your name roshin i really like that i do like to see that because i was thinking to myself like is she going to appreciate this or am i just wasting my time because it takes

twice as long to type it out it took me ages to figure out how you actually put the actually i really do appreciate it and i i was reading ages to figure out how you actually put the accent on there. I really do appreciate it. And I was reading a friend of mine had posted on Facebook the other day, you know, the Irish names are hard to pronounce. They are, yes. And he's Irish guy. Like Saoirse Ronan.

He has kind of Irish family that, you know, weren't born in Ireland, that live in the UK. And he was visiting them. He's visiting his cousin. And they'd had a child, this couple, and they'd call the child Oisin. But they were calling the child Oisin, right?

So your man, the Irish fella, says to him, this is what the parents were calling the child, Oisin. And your man says, what did you say the name was? And they said, spell it. And he went, oh, you know you say that, in Ireland, with Irish, you say that, Oisín, it's not Oisín. They never spoke to him again. They never spoke to him again.

The mother rang up, who's Irish? The mother of the cousin. And you should be discussing with yourself, that child's name is that, That is how you pronounce it. Even the Irish mammy was saying it to me. He was totally like in the twilight zone here. None of them are talking to him now. But the thing is, Oisin, what a horrible name.

It's just a horrible name to put on a child. But maybe you think it's horrible that because you know the correct pronunciation oisin oisin oisin darling if you say it like that but that's how they do say english people isn't it it needs to be oisin you little come on but it's just what you're used to though isn't it that's the thing i always find it strange when people no no it's not just what you used to it's not pronounced oisin my name is not roisin and when i called cloda cloda her grandfather who's english came over drove to ireland in the dead of snow wouldn't dream of getting on the aeroplane,

gave out about it the whole way over, because that's where he was. Yeah. And then he arrived and he's still given out, and a beautiful child in my arms, his first grandchild. Finally, because he's a stiff English guy, you know, finally he's able to put the child in his lap, you know, and start sort of tentatively rocking it. Not really wanting the responsibility, to be honest.

And then he goes, do you mind if I just call her Chloe? Because he'd been given out, you know, about this name, like, what the hell kind of name is that, Clota? Do you mind if I just call her Chloe? I said, well, do you mind if I just call you Benjamin, Tony? You know, I mean, no, you can't call her Chloe. Call her Clota. Her name's Clota.

Shake of it. How do you spell Clota? C-L-O-D-A-G-H. Clota. And then my son is called Tighe, which is spelled... Q-W-T-F-P. Something like that. It looks like something you'd see in the Argos catalogue.

You know, you write down the code. T-A-D-H-G. But it sounds good with the Italian second name. Tighe Propezius. Oh, yeah, man. Beautiful. No, it's tough the first time it's like i'm sure sersha is that i mean are we happy with sersha no pronunciation for no how are you pronouncing

that i'm talking about the actor sorsha is one name searsha is another name the one you're doing is in between the two of them weren't names isn't it okay all right then so how should that this is the actor whose surname is ronan and she's called searsha how searsha yes searsha my niece is called searsha and then i have another niece called lisha when i was trying to think of a name for tyke i couldn't think of a name for a long time he didn't come to you know we were talking about it a long time it was really close to the birth and about a week before the birth i went for dinner with my boyfriend and my other friend. And we all started to get a bit stressed talking about what was going to be his name and everything.

And then my mate, who's gay and a bit flamboyant, went, darling, he said, Clodagh. What kind of a name is Clodagh? Clodagh. So rough. So I ran out of there, like, in a hormonal, like, drama. And I was sobbing, I was sobbing, I was crying on the street. Like, you know when you're, like, drinking tears, drinking tears, but it was hormones, you know, but also this pressure, this pressure.

Anyway, so I rang up Parrott, who's the man who, actually, I produced the last record with me, Roisin Machine, who I've known since I was really young in Sheffield. He's like that. And I said, I don't know what I'm going to do apparently. Oh, Clodagh's a bloody good name. I like Clodagh, he said. Sounds proper.

It sounds like some bog earth, doesn't it? Like something you've dug up out of the bog. Clodagh. Proper. It's very tricky. But you're happy with your name? no i mean i like my name but it hasn't been that helpful to be called roshi right because you spend all your time correcting people and going around the states saying no that's not how you pronounce it well i can't get

into the states because of my name you know they just get out now that's it i'm not having anything to do with something i can't pronounce no but i but I mean, I don't know. I don't know what people think. I mean, I think if people are afraid to pronounce something, then they won't. And so your name just doesn't get, as a sort of, as a trying to be a pop star or whatever, your name just doesn't get banded around as easily. Yeah, I think that's the other thing about people taking offence too easily,

is that it then has the effect of sort of silencing people who are nervous and don't want to give offense and they just think oh fuck it i'm just going to avoid this altogether then well that's it i mean the english people are really that aren't they with with anything other than english they're afraid to on english speaking i should say as well irish people too we're not brought up with other languages floating around that we had to learn or whatever I'm afraid to say, let's say for example my brain shuts me down

for being pretentious in a sense so I start to say Ibiza to you because that's what you call it, that's what it's called but I start to say it and it doesn't come out. And then I go Ibiza.

So I go halfway between the two. A bit like you did with Saoirse and Saoirse. You know, I get like unsure of myself type thing. And I go between the two. But I also feel pretentious saying things right. I heard you talking about Ibiza. And I thought, well, do you say, do say do you say i'm gonna have a pepperoni pizza well who says pizza nobody says pizza anyway no i know i know but it's in english

pronunciation generally you only go hard on that z sound if it's a double z. You know, it's like double C. Yes, in Italian, Z is almost like tea. It's almost got a T in it. Pizza. Right, pizza. Anyway, of course, you're absolutely right. And it should be that way. But then you get some people who do really relish doing the correct pronunciation and they rub it in your face. They do, those horrors, those horrible people. But it's good.

Like my in-laws, I've talked about this before, but my in-laws, they say, yes, we're going to have a pepperoni pizza and we're going to have a glass of rosé wine. Yeah, yeah, that sort of shizzles a bit much, isn't it? That's when you have to call time out and just say, come on, mate. Just lean into the, lean into the British pronunciation. Why not?

Well, that's certainly what I do. Rose. Just get me the rose. Keep going, keep going, keep going. I'm checking my account at the memory bank. The memory bank, the memory bank. We're thanking you for banking on your memories. I'd like to take out a happy memory thanks.

The memory bank, the memory bank. Oh, sorry, but you're very overdrawn. I will repay with interest when I get back up on my happy feet. The memory bank, the memory bank. I'm very sorry, But we're closing your account My what? Where am I? The Memory Bank

The Memory Bank We're the nice bank Would you like to bank with us? All right Eamon Andrews time Come on A story I've heard you Telling before

About the beginnings of Moloko Is that you were At a party In Sheffield And that is where you met your bandmate Mark Brydon and was it your very opening line to Mark to say do you like my tight sweater or was that later on in the conversation it was the opening line right it was something he wasn't the only one that I tried it on that night, to be honest. Really? He was the most receptive.

You like my tight sweater. What do you think of my tight sweater? It was a bit like that. Yeah, it's amazing. It kind of went into a loop in my brain as well. It was very fortunate, wasn't it? What, what? I did see him from across the room and I did think,

Jesus Christ, he's handsome. Like the most handsome guy in Sheffield. When I like kind of rugged guys, you know, like man, man, man, man, man, he's handsome. Like the most handsome guy in Sheffield. When I like kind of rugged guys, you know, like man, man, man, man, man, man, man. And he was that. And he was quiet and he was all those things. I didn't know if I would be in luck at all with him, but he was in a desperate place as it turned out.

He was ready for me, like a rock steady Freddy. And he took me to his big studio to show me his big equipment that very night. Fonz Studios. Good one. Fonz Studios, which the control desk was based on the Starship Enterprise. Was it really? It really was, yes. That would be, if I had unlimited funds,

I would create a studio that was based on the bridge of the Enterprise from Star Trek The Next Generation, the Jean-Luc Picard version. Is that even better? Even better. It's the most beautiful design. I love the colour scheme. It's very relaxing.

It's ergonomically... You've really thought about that, haven't you? I used to really love that show. And when we got married, me and my wife went to Las Vegas and we checked into our hotel in Las Vegas the night before 9-11. Jesus. And we got trapped. So we woke up and everything was weird.

We got trapped for a week in Las Vegas because all the flights were grounded and you couldn't get out and everyone hired all the cars. Jesus, there must have been some goings on then well between me and my wife no but I mean what the hell were they Americans doing in that in Las Vegas on massive big screens were you watching it on massive big screens or something well we watched the second plane fly into the second tower on the big tv in our room as we were waking up after our first night in Las Vegas, quite hungover. We'd fallen asleep watching Tomb Raider with Angelina Jolie and the man from the British Empire, Chris Barry. And we woke up and we were all foggy. We turned on the TV and it was

just a static shot of the first tower smoking i said why is this is this like a i couldn't figure out what was going on is it like a simulation about what would happen if there was a disaster of this kind and then the second plane hit and then i you know we started to figure out what was happening and it was was very shocking, obviously. But then a few days passed, we're still in Las Vegas. We're like, well, what are we going to do? And the whole place emptied out, it became a ghost town. And there was a very strange atmosphere. The people that were left were trying to just carry on even though the news was on every screen wherever you went and there was an ever present sense of unease and fear you were still trying to distract yourself in this ridiculous town so we were doing a lot of gambling and drinking loads of sugary cocktails and playing the slots and then i discovered there was a star trek. And so we went there and they had a full life-size reconstruction of the bridge from the Starship Enterprise from the next generation. And it was the happiest I was all week.

Like the rest of the week, I was just thinking, oh, God, what's happened to the world? This is bad. And then I got to the bridge of the Enterprise and I thought, yes, this is good. This is I'm in my happy place because it felt as if that was the bridge of the enterprise and I thought, yes, this is good. I'm in my happy place. Because it felt as if that was the best of America somehow. America's ability to construct fantastic, hopeful narratives. They're so good at that when they do it well. And yet here we were in the midst of this event

that was going to lead to the opposite of that in so many ways. That's a very deep thing that I just said. Maybe we should think about it for a while. She was thinking about it. I was in Greece. I was in Lesbos with me mammy. And I'd stayed in Lesbos a couple of weeks with me ma. We'd gone around a bit and everywhere we went,

my mother was, I'm the mother, she's the daughter. I'm the mother and daughter, you know because she didn't want anyone to think we were lesbians we'd go into the corner, shop and she'd be like, mother and daughter, you know yourself, like but other than that we had the most wonderful holiday

like so relaxing I love going on holiday with my ma it's just relaxing, you know it's just doing stuff that mostly fellas just don't do with you, you know, just lying on the beach, maybe even having your lunch on the beach, and then, you know, just really relaxing, beautiful time. And that kicked off. We were on the way back off the beach,

and we saw through a balcony into somebody's apartment, you could see it on the television, and everybody's sitting around watching it. And we thought they were just watching some movie. And then my mother, who's a very intelligent woman, said, no, hold on. Even at the small... That's really happening.

So then we went to this pub that had the big... The reason why I said the big screens, because that's how we saw it, the big screens for the football, for the English pub we went. It was the most bizarre kind of cinema experience, you know, for all people

from all over the world to be sat there with their mouths open with this thing happening. I went home after the first one and I went to sleep. I was so shocked by it. As I told you, I'm good at going to sleep when I need to sleep I was so shocked by it as I told you I'm going to go to sleep when I need to I was worried about people

I knew in New York and so on then my mother came back she was like a lunatic the second one's gone oh Jesus it was like and then the Greeks were really weird about it I found ones that we'd run into obviously not all of them but you know

the ones we'd run into a In what way? Obviously not all of them, but, you know, the ones we run into a couple that were like, Americans deserve it. Right, OK. So then you felt a bit alienated as well. Then you felt like, oh, is that what they think about us? Is that what they think about all of us in this holiday place? You know, and the sort of things like that show the cracks in things, don't they? Yes, it strips everything away.

Right. You got a ciggy and a drink? I have. You got a lager? Got a lager, yeah. Oh, yeah, man. What time is it out there? The time now is 1854.

That's what me da always said. You say to me da, what time is it da? And you say, no. Every time. Every single time you ask him for the time. Is that where the song came from? It could be.

It could be. What time is it, Dad? Now? This present moment? Yes, this time. Now. Good man for repeat jokes, you know. Certain people are really good at doing the same joke over and over again

or having a repertoire. It's always funny. It's always funny. In fact, because if they do it again, that's always funny it's always funny and it's in fact because if they do it again that's what makes it even funnier it goes against the laws of physics I had a similar joke but no one ever used to laugh at my joke I did a similar thing which was people would say what's the time I'd say oh it's an abstract concept and um that's not as funny or clever even no it's not is it my dad's was more pointed and straight to the philosophical

question and without any without any pretension fucking hell we've identified the exact thing that makes my humor a little bit shit sometimes i'm saying it makes my tunes a bit shit that as well they're sort of being a bit pretentious so you know as long as we're aware of it why is that i suppose you know that when you're making something you do have to keep that sort of pretentious side in check and make sure it's just not running out of hand you know i was watching the clive davis documentary last night did you watch that it's on netflix yeah very good very sad all the whitney houston stuff is very sad yeah but the thing about him being able to put the right song with the right artist and him just...

Yes. And every artist had the same story. Every artist went in and went, I argued with him. I said I didn't want to do that song. What did he want me to do that stupid song for? That didn't suit my repertoire at all. Blah, blah, blah. And look where we are today. And it would always be, you know, it created a monster hit for them, you know, that they could have a career off the back of for the rest of their lives type thing. There's a real genius to that, that ability to pair an artist with a song and know that it's going to work that combination. Have you seen the documentary Tina about Tina Turner? No, I haven't. That's a good one. It's a little bit long,

but it's very interesting. And some people have criticized it for focusing too heavily on her abusive relationship with Ike Turner. And she is clearly fed up with talking about the subject herself. Understandably, she doesn't want to relive that trauma over and over again.

Anyway, some amazing footage in it and some amazing stuff. And the moment when Tina Turner's career is revitalized by the Private Dancer album is great and uplifting. And the thing that cracks it, of course, is the song. What's Love Got To Do With It? Yeah. Originally, What's Love Got To do with it had been recorded by bucks fizz no i didn't know that yeah they did the first version of it they did a incredibly anemic no disrespect to the mighty bucks fizz but it was a rare off moment for them and they did quite an

anemic version of it and then the song was played to tina. And they said, well, this will be good. Her producer, forget his name, or the engineer or someone involved with the album said, check this out. I think it would be good for you. And she listened to it and said, no way, you're insane. That is terrible. I'm not doing that. This is what always happens. Yeah.

And then the producer got her to, he said, no, no, no, look, look, look. And he started putting his rhythm track together and started putting a bit of a groove on it. And he encouraged her to actually groove around in the studio. He sort of said, look, look, look, it's got a, you sort of groove around like this. So it's this middle-aged white guy kind of grooving around next to Tina Turner. And she sort of starts joining in. And there's a little bit of footage of this from the sessions. And sure enough enough you know

she says all right i'll give it a go but it's not going on the album cut to the video for it and immediately you have a rush of memories coming back for that year and hearing that song coming out of every radio and everything suddenly feeling all 80s and simple and big widescreen and and she won every award and it was the biggest song of the year it's it's a fantastic moment he's had a few of them hasn't he clive yeah oh yeah i haven't seen the documentary about tina but i do love the film what's love got to do with it i think there's some great performances in it it's a good film it's a good biopic. I've never seen it, actually. And at the end, this was what stayed with me,

especially in later years of my career. I keep expecting it to happen to me, but in the end, she's on some kind of cruise ship or something, thingy, and the Svengali from the record company is in the shadows, like, watching her, and saying, I can bring you back to life. I can make this happen for you.

So I keep thinking that's going to happen to me But you don't need to be revitalised You're doing fine aren't you? Well I mean I could do with it What's love got to do with it? Somebody coming along and going right then Well that's a good point I suppose I mean you've had your fair share

Some would say more than your fair share Most artists would be delighted To have the kind of hits that you've had And the kind of career that you've had so far fair share, some would say more than your fair share, most artists would be delighted to have the kind of hits that you've had and the kind of career that you've had so far. But you're the kind of artist that could quite easily be married to a song. And it would totally capture people's imaginations the way that some of your songs already have, you know, but yeah, it could be that kind of song that is absolutely everywhere. Yeah, we need one of them. But you write your own stuff, though, as well, right?

I do, yeah. Well, I write 50% more or less of everything that I put out. And the other 50% is whoever I'm collaborating with or whatever group of people I'm collaborating with. Because I write the melodies and the lyrics, which is ostensibly known as a standard, that that's a 50% dealio. Which is grand for me you know known in the there's a standard that that's a 50 deal which is grand for me and i i love the collaboration thing i don't think i'll ever try making music i just have too much respect and awe for uh you know the guys that have put their lives into it and

know everything about it and speaking of your what's love got to do with it i've been working on a track that i was thinking could be a remote collab and lyrically i was thinking that we could talk about things that made us feel positive because you know people maintaining their mental health is the big thing at the moment. We're in lockdown three and people are struggling. People aren't sleeping well. People are just feeling the weight of the world on their shoulders in all sorts of ways, COVID related and otherwise. So I was thinking that we could share with the listeners some of the things that cheer us up, some of our go-to mood lifters, you know what I mean? And we'd take turns take turns, line by line, to share them.

Things like, you know, if I'm feeling overwhelmed, I go for a walk. Things like that. I like to be paced on or something like that. I think this is going to be a marriage made. Hello, Roisin. How are you, Adam? How are you doing? Pretty good at the moment, thanks.

I'm going to sing this next bit. How would you feel about exchanging tips? Give over. No tips. Tips for staying positive. You know, things you do to cheer yourself up When you're feeling blue You go first

I just remind myself of those massive giant rabbits You can get, they're like four foot With them huge paws and that They're ace, I wish I had one of them I like to watch the scene from Bridesmaids Where Kristen Wiig is on the plane and she is drunk. Oh, you could try getting drunk yourself. That can be quite a nice

pastime and a harmless I think that's true. More or less. Well, if I'm feeling overwhelmed, I go for a walk. They work the walks. I like an out walk as well. Always good. So what's your head out? Defo. I like an out walk as well. Always good. So what's your head out?

Deafo. I just said deafo. I like videos of dogs and cats and babies being sweet, but only if I'm really out of options. It can be quite nice to touch disgusting things

whilst wearing rubber gloves. Things that make me cheerful continued. A nice cup of tea. Raw rolling papers. Helping out a stranger. Pissing in the garden. Drawing a picture, even if it's shit.

Dancing, dancing, dancing, dancing round the park. It's great when my wife or my children laugh at my jokes. Oh, Dad, you're very underrated, they say. Looky you. When I sing at home, all hell breaks loose.

Keep telling them people pay me to do this. I love staring into the eyes of my dog friend Rosie. Might I say, watching handsome Italian guys making focaccia in my kitchen? Sure, everyone likes that. Simply lovely. And then of course, what always was for me is listening to some music I like. Put your hands together for the vocal stylings of Royce Murphy. Red hot

tan, baby! Red hot! Is that alright? Black box delicious. A few good tips there, weren't there? Some more than others, yeah. I do also really like to bury my face deep

in warm clean washing off of the radiator. What do you think of that? Relieved. All warm on my face. Sure. The smell of the detergent. Yes. How about cleaning out a cupboard?

Nobody wants to be cleaning out cupboards, but once it's done, it's very rewarding. Wait, this is an advert for Squarespace. Every time I visit your website, I see success. Yes, success. The way that you look at the world makes the world want to say yes it looks very professional i love browsing your videos and pics and i don't want to stop and i'd like to access your members area and spend in your shop like to access your members area and spend in your shop these are the kinds of comments people will say about your website if you build it with squarespace just visit squarespace.com

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Come and say hello. It's good to have you back, Rose. We were worried about you i love you all right dog eyes come on so there you go that was roisin murphy talking to me there very grateful to roisin for her time. That was good fun. I enjoyed chatting with her. I'm also extremely grateful, of course, for her vocal contributions to that song.

In the description of today's podcast and on the corresponding page on my blog, if you haven't visited my blog recently, oh, it's been revamped. And you can sign up for a newsletter that I occasionally send out when I've got something to talk about. And it's just a wonderland of great, great times. It's replaced the app, the Adam Buxton app. Anyway, the address is in the description of the podcast as well as a load of links to some Roshin related stuff what have we got for you

oh yeah a couple of those live performances acoustic performance live at home for Festival Marvin 9.5 from 2020 of Murphy's Law and the Time Is Now. Brilliant performances from Roisin in her front room with her acoustic guitar accompanist with her changing costume and giving it her all. Videos for Moloko from back in the day. One by my friend Garth jennings of production company hammer and tongs one of the earlier videos they made i think just as they were becoming like the kings of music video making in that golden age of pop promos towards the end of the 90s. That's the video for The Flipside by Maloko, one of their earlier hits.

There's Roisin singing Murphy's Law on the Graham Norton Show last year, 2020. A link to that Clive Davis documentary, which is very good. He's a really inspiring figure, a rare figure in the music industry that everyone seems to think is a decent guy it'll probably turn out that he murdered 400 people in secret at some point i hope not i don't think he did come on clive don't murder anyone should we go through this way? Rosie?

We're going through a different way, listeners. We usually go follow the same path, but we're mixing it up today, going through some woods. Oh, it's such a nice evening. put a link to that Bucks Fizz recording of What's Love Got To Do With It, as well as Tina Turner's version from a couple of years later in 1984. And it's one of those songs, as I was saying in my conversation with Roisin, as soon as you hear it, it just, it's so beautifully produced. It sounds like Africa by Toto in that way, that certain kind of very widescreen 80s production, which I didn't like at the time, but now that I'm older, it's nice. That documentary that I mentioned though, Tina,

is not actually released yet. I saw a preview copy of it. I think it's going to be available to view online towards the end of March of this year, 2021. I've put a link in the description to an overview of it on the HBO website. There is also a link in the description to PodMonkey. has been formed by Matt Lamont, who regularly edits the conversations on this podcast, along with his associate Scott Edwards. And both Matt and Scott worked on today's episode

to help fix a few sound issues that there were. Some of you may have spotted them. Because I forgot to ask Roisin to turn her speakers down in the remote link up. I'm sure there are a few of you out there, music producers and podcast makers, who know how enjoyable it is when it comes to editing a conversation. If one half of the conversation is bleeding across onto the other half, it's one of the worst things in the world. What have you found?

CD. Who is it? We found a Shania Twain CD. It's Come On Over. Do you know Shania Twain? I've heard of her, yeah. She's incredible and you should take that home and treasure it. I'm going to listen to it the second I get back.

Oh, it's her big album from 1997. It's got Man I Feel Like a Woman on it. Yeah, look. You know that one? yeah, I wonder if he threw it out it might be one of the she's big with rabbits so it might be one of theirs

anyway I was saying thanks to Matt and Scott for all their expertise in fixing up the audio on the podcast much appreciated both of you. And thanks, as ever, to Seamus Murphy Mitchell for his invaluable production support.

Oh, yes, I was going to say, Matt and Scott's company, PodMonkey, is the place to visit if you need help putting together your podcast. Link in the description. That's it for this week. Yeah, I think I'm going to leave it there. And rejoin my daughter and Rosie on this lovely evening.

Hope things are okay with you, wherever you're listening. And I will be back with the podcast. My plan is to delve into the archives a little bit for the next couple of episodes. One episode that I recorded last year that actually had some similar audio problems so it took me a little while to fix that and another one that i recorded live with an always popular guest so i'm hoping to put those out uh sometime in the next week or two. And then I've got a few more episodes coming your way. This is boring, though. So I'm going to stop telling that story and instead offer you a hug.

Would you like a hug? All right. There you go. Until next time, take extremely good care. And for what it's worth, just bear in mind, I love you. Bye! Like and subscribe. Please like and subscribe. Give me a big smile and a thumbs up. Nice like a smile and a thumbs up.

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