THE ADAM BUXTON PODCAST - EP.211 - GUZ KHAN

Episode Date: October 31, 2023

Adam talks with British actor, comedian and returning podcast guest, Guz Khan about the challenges of parenthood, the danger of spoiling children with the trappings of success, why Guz would be happy if his ride on the entertainment rollercoaster ended tomorrow, dealing with rowdy audiences and what to do if a Hollywood star (even a really nice one!) blocks your view at a gig.CONTAINS STRONG LANGUAGENORD VPN: For a huge discount off your NordVPN plan - go to nordvpn.com/buxton This conversation was recorded face to face in London on October 3rd, 2023Thanks to Séamus Murphy-Mitchell for production support and conversation editing.Podcast artwork by Helen GreenHELP END HOMELESSNESS - PLEASE SUPPORT LORNA TUCKER'S FILM SOMEONE'S DAUGHTER, SOMEONE'S SONRELATED LINKSGUZ KHAN TOUR DATESGUZ ON ADAM BUXTON PODCAST EP.107 - 2019GUZ KHAN ON JAMES ACASTER'S PERFECT SOUNDS PODCAST - 2020 (BBC)SIT OR STAND IN A SHOW - 2023 (RADIO MILWAUKEE)'FISHER STEVENS REGRETS PLAYING INDIAN ROLE' - 2021 (ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY)FISHER STEVENS INTERVIEW "THERE'S NO WAY I WOULD PLAY AN INDIAN TODAY" - 2015 (YOUTUBE)AZIZ ANSARI SETTLES HIS 'SHORT CIRCUIT' BEEF JOHNNY FIVE - 2015 (YOUTUBE) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I added one more podcast to the giant podcast bin Now you have plucked that podcast out and started listening I took my microphone and found some human folk Then I recorded all the noises while we spoke My name is Adam Buxton, I'm a man I want you to enjoy this, that's the plan. Hey, how are you doing, podcats? Adam Buxton here. Reporting to you from the edge of a muddy field in Norfolk County, east of England, UK,

towards the very end of October 2023. Quite a cold morning, cloudy with a bit of sun. Clocks went back yesterday, very much enjoyed that extra hour in bed, and this morning got up an hour earlier, so feeling quite virtuous. That's the upside of this time of year. The downside, of course, is that we are plunged into a twilight world of wintery gloom. Anyway, it's all right for the moment. You can hear the rush hour traffic over on the A11 outside Norwich in the distance. And my best dog friend, Rosie, is loping along beside me in her orange harness, having been fairly reluctant to come with me in the morning, but now she's out,

she seems fairly perky. So that's where I'm at. I'm going to tell you about this week's podcast very shortly, but before I do, I want to prevail upon your generosity once again, very briefly. Previous podcast guest Lorna Tucker from episode 191, in which she talked to me about her Vivienne Westwood documentary and about her homelessness documentary, Someone's Daughter, Someone's Son, which features some of her own experiences of living on the streets when she was a teenager for nearly two years. Rosie, we're going to go this way. Come on.

I said a few weeks ago on the podcast that Lorna and the documentary's producers have been trying to raise funds to get the film a distribution deal. They have nearly reached their target on Kickstarter. They have a few more days to go. There's a link in the description. If you haven't done so already, and if you are able to make a donation, it would be hugely appreciated as part of an effort to bring this film to as wide an audience as possible

and keep the conversation surrounding what can be done about homelessness alive, especially, you know, at a time when there are so many other very important issues struggling for prominence thank you very much but right now let me tell you about podcast number 211 this one features a properly rambling and uh frequently laughter filled conversation with british actor comedian and returning podcast guest guz Khan, or Guz Khan, as he's known further up north, but I call him Guz. Guz Facts.

Born in 1986, Ghulam Duskir Khan grew up with his Pakistani-Punjabi Muslim family in Coventry in the West Midlands of England, where he still lives with his wife and children. in the West Midlands of England, where he still lives with his wife and children. After some waywardness in his teenage years, Guz studied criminology at the University of Coventry before getting a job as a teacher. But after a few years concerned that things might be getting a little bit too sensible in his life, he started posting short videos featuring his character Mo Bean around 2015. When several Mo Bean videos went viral, Guz came to the attention of TV comedy producers in the UK,

and just a couple of years later, in 2017, the first series of Man Like Mo Bean, written by Guz and Andy Milligan, aired on BBC Three. The show featured Mo Bean living in Small Heath, Birmingham, doing his best to be an upstanding member of the community and look after his younger sister while trying to escape a criminal past. A fourth series of Man Like Mo Bean aired earlier this year, 2023. In the meantime, Guz has been increasingly in demand as an actor in productions that include the Netflix comedy-drama Turn Up Charlie with Idris Elba,

Sky TV's Curfew with Sean Bean and Billy Zane, Mindy Kaling's miniseries based on Four Weddings and a Funeral, and the pirate comedy series Our Flag Means Death with Taika Waititi and Rhys Darby. In addition, Guz has been cultivating his stand-up career. He's touring around the UK telling stories about his life and family. In January and February of next year, 2024, you can find tour dates on his website. There's a link in the description. Today's conversation with Guz was recorded face to face in London at the very beginning of this month, 3rd of October 2023, and we talked about

parenting and wanting to share your good fortune with your children, but not wanting them to get spoiled, as well as the pressures of being a parent in the modern world and what it must have been like for Guz's own mother when he was growing up. There's an alley. We also talked about stand-up and how Guz feels about heckling at comedy gigs, which led us on to talking about gig etiquette in general. In particular, the contentious topic of when it's okay to enjoy a show standing up if there are people around you sitting down. Now, this section of the conversation included a reference to a Hollywood actor

who stood up in front of me at a gig recently. And the name of the actor has been left in. But I want to make it clear that that's only because it sort of relates to other things, not because I am in any way trying to shame them, apart from anything else. I'm sure I've done loads of annoying things at gigs without realising. But it was a funny part of the conversation so I thought I'd leave it in I hope you will take it in the spirit in which it was intended but the conversation which by the way just so you're aware does contain quite a lot of strong language began with us just

catching up on how many children we have back Back at the end for information on related links and a bit more waffle. But right now, with Guz Khan. Here we go. Ramble chat, let's have a ramble chat. We'll focus first on this, then concentrate on that. Come on, let's chew the fat And have a ramble chat Put on your conversation coat

And find your talking hat La, la, la, la, la, la La, la, la, la, la, la La, la, la, la, la, la, la La, la, la, la, la, la, la Go, go, go, go, go Hey, how many have you got now? Four. Four. That's right.

You were expecting your fourth the last time we met. Is that really true? Yeah. We met in September 2019. We met in a different world. That's right. We really did. Pre-pandy.

Pre-pandy? You make it sound like an enjoyable drug trip. Pre-pandy and then post-pandy, your chakras is open. You're seeing the world in a different way. And maybe that's a little bit what happened. Yeah, yeah. Pre-pandy would alsoakras is open. You're seeing the world in a different way and maybe that's a little bit what happened. Yeah, yeah. Pre-pandy would also be

a good name for a rapper. It would work. A mumble, like a shit one. Yeah, yeah. Like a mumble rapper. Mumble, mumble, mumble, mumble, pre-pandy baby,

like that. What's the definition of a mumble rapper? Someone who's just, I think someone who's a bit shit. Like, but then I sound like an uncle because it's a generational thing this is what

happened pre-pandy post-pandy should i tell you what happened to me bro yeah last time i spoke to you i was pre-uncle now i'm full uncle define it uncle okay let me um let me quote the text exchange we had since we last met um so this is going back to Pandy Times, central Pandy Times. 15th of November, 2020, Adam Buxton wrote, Hello, guys. Adam Buxton here. I hope you and the family are doing all right.

I was enjoying listening to you on James Acaster's 2016 albums podcast the other day, which I did. Gave me a good lift. Really good, that. Random thing. I'm podcasting with Paul McCartney on Wednesday and was thinking I might try to gather some questions from funny friends in an effort to ask him stuff he hasn't been asked a million times before. I don't know if you're a

fan or not, but let me know if you think of anything that it would be funny to ask him that he might actually respond to. Wishing you well, Adam. And one month later, you replied, oh no, brother Bucks, that was very kind of you considering I'm a cunt. I'm very gassed, mate. With a sort of hang loose emoji. Adam Buxton replies, that's my kind of text response lag. Cheers, Mr. K. Hope you're doing good. To which you replied, I'll be real with you. I didn't really know that uncle. Referring to Paul McCartney. That's the first time I'd heard the phrase uncle in that way. Also, how did you get to the age you are and not know who Paul McCartney was? I tell you the truth.

I tell you the truth. When you said me that, the first thing that came into my mind is there was a vegetarian pie that you used to buy from Asda. It was a McCartney pie. Linda McCartney, yeah. That's what I knew. Yeah, she was an early proponent of veggie food she was very good yeah yeah there was nothing halal back in the day from asda so we would rock up and be like we'll have them veggie pies used to have a terrible stomach afterwards so when you said

poor guy obviously i usually loosely i was like oh this is something in the music yeah but you had texted me and i could tell in the tone of your text message that oh this is serious shit that you're meeting Uncle McCartney. And then so, first of all, I want to apologize about the text lag. I'm a very bad person when it comes to text lag. That's okay, I'm too. You probably put the podcast out on air by the time I actually messaged back. I think we did, yeah.

I actually listened back to some of our podcasts last time, which was really fun. But at one point I was talking about um my anxieties as a father and how i worry that i'm just a lousy dad and what kind of a person am i anyway let alone as someone who's bringing up three human beings and you were you was sort of amazed by the degree to which i was overthinking the whole thing you said, mate, if they're still alive at the end of the day, then jobs are good. Are they still alive? I'm glad to say yes, yes.

The job is good. Yeah. The job is good. Bro, I, okay, I can't lie. Think about me. Let me not front. Last time we spoke 2019, they're all a significant amount younger. What happened a little bit from there is now they're like my daughter is in year eight. This is a little bit different human being. This is a little bit human being who like, you know, you know, when they're not in secondary school, everything's like, oh, you know, like, oh oh you're little now she's in secondary school i'm like oh what's going on there what's happening here yeah who what that person they're

vaping oh don't vape and then she's like yeah but dad didn't you used to sell drugs that's what uncle ali was saying i was like this is different times you know what I'm saying? I do, yeah. So as much as you were like, oh, you're worried, now I'm a bit worried like, oh, what if she starts vaping

and then vaping is a gateway and now crack. Yeah, welcome to being a parent of a teenage child. Crack. They're not on crack, are they, these days? I mean, what are the big ones

for the teenagers of 2023? They do Instagram drugs That's how I term them Yeah So like there'll be an MC Or like someone like influence-y popular And then they get caught out doing Instagram drugs They don't even know why they're doing them

Do you know what I mean? They're doing them because Yeah I'm sipping that lean And you say what's the lean? Yeah And they say it's cough mixture Because, yeah, I'm sipping that lean. And you say, what's the lean? And they say, it's cough mixture in large doses. Yes. With Sprite.

Too much night nurse. I've never took it. You've never taken night nurse? Because I always think, if I'm feeling sick and I have something that's going to make me drowsy, I'm going to die. I think that's where my logic is because you already oh you already might die remember mid pandy people was just ko in from oh he's got a cough finish gonna be so it got stuck in my head I was like if I get the cough I better just stay up how did you handle handle the whole Pandy? I should stop saying Pandy.

No, look, what are you going to... I like it. Pandy is something palatable. Yeah, it makes it sound more fun. Yeah, it's something palatable. No, I liked it. I like the Pandy. I thought...

You have to remember, bro, based on my BMI, I thought I was going to die. Uh-huh. This is real. And then people were like, oh, if you think you're going to die because of your BMI, why don't you lose some of it?

And I was like, no, just risk it. No, but then there's a doctor that said to me, yeah, he said to me, sorry for going on a tangent here he says to me he had a 20 stone Irish brother 27 quite you know

height wasn't massive like 5 foot 5 foot 6 he said I'll say it how he said to me he said he came to see me

worried about his health worried about his long being and how long he's going to be on the planet I said tell me he said I did his blood pressure. His blood pressure was 126 over 72.

He said, I had somebody from a South Asian community come here. Nice muscle. Very strong, very power. He said, I did his blood pressure 170 over 126. He said, he was going to die. He was going to die. One is in shape. One is a fat. That's what he said to die One is in shape One is a fat

That's what he said One is in shape One is a fat Genetics is everything So I thought Adam After the conversation Even if I get in shape I'm still going to die anyway

What's the point? Do you get what I'm saying? I do Were you genuinely worried In those days? Yeah Also let me explain Another reason why I was worried

Because my dad died when he was 36 yes what did he die of heart attack oh mate cleaned bang out the game gone what was his deal then like what was he doing too much of or was it just a congenital condition i think it's hard to say like my other doctor they're all asian by the way my other doctor said that's long time ago he died yeah he died a long time ago very straight to the point he said we don't know what he actually died of how he died okay he said did he die straight away i said apparently not straight away he was alive for a bit and then a week later in hospital bam he said bam i said bam he said oh my god then we don't know what it was you understand he said i'm not sure maybe it was

secondary heart attack they didn't detect. Maybe something, extra blockage. Because he's right. 30, what's that? 30 something years ago was a different time medically, isn't it? Yeah. For things to keep an eye out on. But anyway, I had it in my head during the pandy that I was going to die anyway. Because if my dad died at 36, your card is marked.

Game over. Which it isn't, of course. There's all sorts of, you know know I've said this before I think because it's a reassuring thing to know that even if you are prone to certain conditions because of your genes that doesn't mean necessarily

that they will definitely happen it's just that you have the potential to develop those conditions those switches won't necessarily be flipped. Have you got any? Well, yes. I mean, you end up having most of the things that your parents do, so high blood pressure and things like that that my dad had.

Oh, my God. And I think he had a heart problem at one point, but not a serious one. He ended up getting clobbered by a thing called mesothelioma, which is cancer of the lining of the lung, often associated with industrial disease, inhalation of asbestos, which I don't think is what happened to him. It was a bit of a mystery. Anyway, he was, you know, in his 90s by that time.

Is it rude me saying that is a very powerful innings not at all i appreciate some people don't like the whole good innings thing it doesn't cheer them up necessarily if they're grieving but it is something i do think and i can't like i always think that if i get to an age where the kids can legally drive a car, all of them, that's good. That's good. Because, like, as a minimum requirement of your kids

to make a little bit, maybe some success of themselves, they can always do delivery rounds, Amazon driving, taxis, Uber. You know what I'm saying, bro? And you can go anywhere in the world and do it. I've got it stuck in my head. Delivery rounds. Amazon driving. Taxis. Uber. You know what I'm saying, bro? You can go anywhere in the world and do it. I've got it stuck in my head.

If I can get to an age where this youngest strange one can drive, we're all right. How old is the young strange one now? Well, we know. He's four, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's four. And how old is the oldest? She's 12. 12. He's four, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's four. And how old is the oldest? She's 12.

12. 12 and four. Shall I tell you something I never said? So, I send her to a private school in Coventry. Not the rest of them. Because I quite like to talk to my kids. And when I was talking to my kids, the boys, all of them, including four years old,

they're quite like, oh, I don't really like writing. I don't really like reading. I said, what do you like doing? They said, just running. I said, OK, just run. But my daughter said to me very early on, she's like, Dad, I want to do this, this, this. And I would like to become this, this, this. And I was like, oh, then if that's what you're going to do, then as your pops and and your mom let's try and do our best to put you in a good educational setting not that necessarily I think the private

school is any better than the school that's down the road but I suppose it's like a in my head I was always like oh if you ever do well then maybe that would be a good thing for dad to do do you get what i mean i do understand like but obviously it's so politically fraught isn't it it is an agonizing decision and it's one and i'm so i'm certainly conflicted about were you worried about it should i tell you in the most simple terms the way i thought about it i was like this is my daughter i love her she's intelligent and then I looked at them three. I'm like, you ain't shit.

How is this going to play on Twitter, Gus? This is what I thought. This is as complicated as it was for me. I don't mean as people. I just meant me. I don't mean as people. I just meant education. Maybe a little bit as people. I appreciate your joking. But are you worried about your other children one day saying,

how come our sister got that education? No. Shall I tell you why I don't worry about it? Because I think it's the chat. So everybody in our house gets to talk a lot. And we grew up in, I suppose, a time where you could chat to your elders, but then it got to a certain point where they say, there's too much chat.

Finish the chat now. You understand? So you got to a certain level level you couldn't really ask questions they just did their thing they was busy and on reflection you're so busy working putting food on the table

mum's dad's aunties uncles and stuff that sometimes that things got lost in translation but for our lot anything they want to chat about

they can just be like mum dad I don't know why I knocked on the table all the doors are open but mum dad it's on my head mentally probably can i just grab it for a second this is how i feel about this and i suppose

for me like the older two were used to a very specific kind of life but we grew up, me, Amarine, who's my missus, and the eldest two, in the loft of the house across two mattresses. So all four of us would sleep on them two mattresses, just in terms of what we were used to. And we had a great time. It was a lot of fun. There was wrestling at night. I'd get up, leg it, iron a shirt, put it on, run to school,

just because I'm like, oh, I better do this, because sensible dads just go to work and then they come home, right? In terms of my... But now these new two kids, I remember I felt weird about it. I've been asked to work during the pandy in LA.

They were filming in LA and we got to the airport and there's barely anybody there and the very nice kind lady on American Airlines behind the till said, you know what? The plane's kind of empty. We're going to bump you all up to business class.

And the kids are like, what does that mean? And I was like, this is going to be sick. And we got on a plane. And the older two were like, oh, there's a bed. Sophia and Ye were like, there's a bed. Sophia and Ye were like, there is a bed. There is movies, which is movies in,

you know, economy class as well, but there's movies that just in my little pod, I can watch it. There was high-fiving. Now, the youngest guy, baby's baby, but the younger guy,

Wiggy, Wiggy was like, oh. And I was like, oh, shit. There's a discrepancy between the older two wiggy and gonna be the youngest one and it's true box because what happened is by the nature of life going better right by the nature of her going to private school and then we're still going to a really good school in cough in the area that we live they started taking all these these, the youngsters, they're taking it for granted. Do you know what I

mean? They just started taking it for granted. I already, in that moment, I was, you meant to lean back and put your feet up, 11 and a half hours to LA from London. I was stressed the whole time. I was like, I fucked up. I was like, I got two kids who are so excited and then I got another set of kids who were like, yeah, normal. Do you know what I'm saying? And I've seen it as the years have gone on since then, just four years. And now me and my wife sit down all the time, like always got my head in my hands. I'm like, oh, how do we balance this?

Because, bro, look where I came from, where we'd go on a summer holiday in the boot of a Volvo V70 eight men in the car illegally police didn't even care I remember we'd wave at the police on the motorway and they'd go

hello hello carry on you're not having fun and now that's how we came up and then so you're appreciative of here's a pack of

panini stickers and you're like thanks mum you've done a big one there yeah you're happy thanks for 25p mum that's a lot of money

now Bugs now when they get on the plane everyone's like why aren't we turning left yeah that binoculars looks good.

So what do I do? This is a big, more than comedy, I don't even care about my career. This is a big, what do I do? This is a big problem for me. So I don't know.

I think basically what I'm saying is, I don't want to raise pricks. Yeah, that's the bottom line. This is the bottom line. You don't want to raise entitled pricks. People who expect that. Luxury should be a kind of amazing treat. Yeah.

And once you start expecting that, then you're terrible. Is that it? I think, no, bro, it is. And then just to one more tag on the end, then that's the fear because who facilitated that? Yeah, me. That's right. Right? Do they watch reality shows with ultra wealthy families in them

having an amazing executive time? I'll be honest with you, no. I'm really lucky they're cool like that. And on another note, what I do still do right now, even with the younger lot lot is because we're still in Cov for example I was in the barbers yesterday both my barbers are Kurdish refugees who came to the UK when they were I want to say like one of them was 15 one of them was 19 and we've known each other like most of our lives right now the block in Coventry, Frontline, Han Lane East, is where I grew up and had so much fun.

And I always still take them with me. So, Ye, who's my eldest son, who was around before all this comedy stuff, oh, things are a bit different now, we can go in first class. His eyes still light up more on the block in the barbers when everyone's talking shit

and taking a piss and then he gets involved his eyes light up more for that than they do for like business class flights for example or that other side of life so i suppose for me i always try and maintain that balance that they see what life used to be like my social circles circle is still very much hanging around in these places. And it's interesting. If I asked Ye, I asked Ye this. I say, Ye, bro, what would you like to do? He loves MMA. So it's his thing at the moment.

He likes fighting and grappling. And he likes the people in MMA. He likes a few fighters who are very stoic and earn millions of dollars but return to the mountains of Dagestan. He's like, that's my heroes there. Look, they came to Las Vegas, they took that money

and they went back to herd the sheep. Like that's, he thinks that's gangster shit. That's what he enjoys. But basically he intimates to me and he's like, oh, if we'd have stayed here in this area of Coventry,

we would be sick we would we would still be having 10 signs of fun and i think okay maybe i've done some good groundwork there because in my head i'm always like life can change tomorrow if i keel over and die i don't know how things are gonna obviously they're not gonna you don't have to go back there because things are good but you don't you don't know where life's gonna take take you, right? Yes. We don't have your parental leaders in your life. Whereas if I ask the younger two, they don't want nothing to do. Do you get what I mean? Yeah.

Because they've been exposed to like, it's like, oh, dad. And I'm like, yeah, he's very loud. And I'm like, oh, fucking this kid's worried about the noise. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, he's like, more noise. Let's break a window. And then the one that's been, who's brought up in the good times, let's call them the good times. He's like, oh, God.

Let's go home and watch T.D. Briggs on YouTube. I'm like, oh, fuck. I mean, fundamentally, the cliche is, of course, and it's true that, you you know the foundation has to be solid things have to be right at home and with the people you care about and that enables the privileges and the luxuries to be enjoyable if everything is shit if your relationships have fallen apart if nothing important means anything then those things are no fun 100 and that's where you end up in succession you know that's what succession is all about all these completely damaged people who there's nothing at the core of their lives and they everything is about the superficial trappings

of wealth and you know what's crazy though yeah i? I did watch that show. I did quite like it. There's one parallel that I do draw between their life. It's an emotional thing, not no money. But so obviously, I probably said this last time as well, my mum raising us as a single mum then became a behemoth of importance in terms of morality and gangsterness, because she's a tough lady, spearhead in the community, right? And then when I watched that show and I was like, oh, all these kids essentially are wanting to be crowned by their pops, right?

Me and my two older sisters, I suppose me, Mills and Shady, that's their nicknames. I suppose we're a little bit waiting for that. And my mum is very much like Logan Roy in terms of, I'm here forever. Do you know what I mean? So I wonder how, if I'm then replicating that with my kids I do see a little bit in them like oh yeah who does

pop stink is pshkion pshkion and who does pop stink is oh do you know what I mean it's weird that we think and so for example just going back to what

we were saying there in terms of like that track to the things I try and do every Friday night if I'm around even if I'm not Dino she'll take the four kids and land up my mum's because we don't like that tractor, the things I try and do. Every Friday night, if I'm around, even if I'm not, Dino, she'll take the four kids and land at my mum's,

because we don't live next door anymore, but land at my mum's. That is a, at max, three bedroom, like, terraced house. Then nieces and nephews will come. Then my sister comes. So every Friday, there's probably about 14 people. And then everybody sleeps. Everybody crashes out in the house. And we want to do that because we just want them to know, look how much fun you can have.

14 man down. People sleeping in the hallway. Nephew sleep on the stairs with a pillow. Look how much fun you can have. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I hope that's the balance. That sounds good, man know what I mean like so I hope what I'm saying I hope that's the balance

that sounds good man that's the dream I hope I don't have that in my life I feel like I didn't grow up in that kind of culture there was

the kind of thing you're describing happened at Christmas and that was it like everyone gets together at Christmas that's part of the reason why I liked Christmas

it was like yay suddenly you're seeing everyone and everyone's hanging That's part of the reason why I liked Christmas. It was like, hey, suddenly you're seeing everyone and everyone's hanging out. The rest of the time, everyone's kind of off in their own corner a lot. And that hurts. I don't like that aspect of...

Can I ask you a question? Yeah, yeah. If you don't mind. So let's say you had the opportunity, and people are still around, and you get to go to your mum or your dad's, or maybe it's an auntie and uncle, I don't know, it is what it is, and everyone lands there and there's all them people

and you're having a great time. But if every week you got cussed the fuck out, which happens to me, by the way, every single week. By who? Mum. Okay, okay. Mum, you get turned down. Sometimes, Mad Mills, who's my oldest sister,

she'll get involved a little bit as well, but then she's like a little bit in the role of a mum because she's 10, 11 years older than me. You know what I mean?

Like, he's respecting. What's your mum cussing you for? Just being a prick, bastard. Just being alive. Just, Adam Buxton,

just being alive. Walk through the door and my kids are getting all the good love. And like, there's one on her shoulders. And she's all got osteoporosis. But anyway, it's fine because they're her grandkids. I walk through the door and she'll go, oh, fucking this guy.

Right? It's the energy. And then continue to list things in front of the whole family about, remember that time police brought you home? Remember that time? Remember that time you was fucking? And some auntie told me about it? You were shagging. You were shagging.

You were shagging Ghulam Khan. And she would be saying this and I would be there like, and this will honestly happen every week. Would you personally keep going back knowing how much enjoyment it's bringing everyone? I mean, I think I would. It doesn't sound too bad. She obviously loves you. She's obviously proud of you, I would imagine. I mean, I think I would. Right? It doesn't sound too bad. She obviously loves you. She's obviously proud of you,

I would imagine. I don't know about all that. I'm sure. Love, I think, 100%. She must be proud of you. But I don't know because my sisters are really, like, smart.

Like, do you know what I mean? They're really smart. Does your mum watch your TV shows and your movies and stuff? She ain't never told me she watches. Maybe, maybe, maybe. For example, I think she would be really impressed if I became Bradley Walsh. Okay.

If I was Brown Bradley Walsh. Were you a handful though? I mean, for her, did you put her through a lot of stress when you were growing up? Yeah. She had a lot on. kids single mom and in our community at that time the key question is just get married again why aren't you getting married again you can bring in a man who can help supplement whatever earnings are outstanding she's like forget all that i'm not here to listen to that i'm doing this on my ones their old man gave me enough of a headache.

I'm going to do this single mum style. I think I started really misbehaving like early teens. But she wasn't like... I don't know. I can engage like my aunties and my friends' mums and stuff. But she wasn't really like them. She was much more like, is it? Is that what you're up to, yeah?

Okay. Let me dropkick you down the stairs. Do you get what I mean? So I was a bit more like, oh shit, I shouldn't be doing that because she's really angry now. But I don't know, like...

But you never went fully off the rails? Um... Well, there was cops involved, so I guess that's... Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we did. But I was always hanging around with people who were much older than me. So...

She must have worried about that. I think so. I mean, imagine how you would feel. Yeah, you see. You're 100% right. But also, it was like a bit of a different... It like a bit of a different It was a bit of a different time Where every

Like the guys who I grew up with Who were up to no good And even now my mates Who are in trouble You could still trust them They were good fellas They were good Bro

Box I'm telling you now They was good fellas Whereas now If I get asked to come in And talk to my mate's kid, which I did a few weeks ago, he just wants to be bad. Do you get what I mean? His MO is, I want to do a madness.

I want to do a fucking madness. And I'm like, what's happened? Where's he getting that from? What's happened here? It could be it's a number of influences. I think if I'm being honest with you, the things we consume, the music, the entertainment. I don't know. And then I saw some of these youngsters box on the block who've got really great mums or really great dad or really great nan who's got food ready and there's heating in the house and they just want to be bad.

That's never how we were, bro. We never went out the house like, yeah, look at me. I'm going to fucking shank you granddad. It wasn't... Maybe that's not how they feel. Maybe they feel that they are sort of engaging with that forbidden behavior

in the same way that you did, but it always looks more sinister to an older generation, I think. This is a really sensible way that you just put that. I suppose the thing is, like, for her, maybe she doesn't see how crazy some of the new crop is. And if she could, she'd be like, oh, you lot were little angels. Not that we were, but do you get what I mean?

Yeah, yeah. So in her head, when I grew up and stopped doing this, it stopped there, right? And all she has to reference is this bastard. What a naughty boy he was. Did you ever talk to your mum about what it was like for her to lose her husband? Yeah, I did.

I did. She's i did she's quite she's tough lady in terms of even emotions so she don't want to be opening up too much and stuff like that but yeah i think she found it super tough but i also see like this lady who's like if i lost everyone i gotta still keep going do you get what I mean it's a strong she's got a very strong she's got a very strong energy which is

life's tough what am I gonna do tap out here am I gonna let it become too much for me no I gotta put my bag on

I gotta whack my shoes and I gotta keep going which I wish I had that energy I don't have that energy do you not no I'd be crying like a fucking

if I heard oh Adam Buxton got hit by a bike in central London Which I wish I had that energy. I don't have that energy. Do you not? No. I'd be crying like a fucking... If I heard something... Oh, Adam Buxton got hit by a bike in central London. All his legs shattered. I have my head in my hands like, oh. I'd be like, oh. Did he get his vocal cords? No, Buxton.

No, Buxton. The handlebar clipped his vocal cords. Oh, he just booked a session, studio session. 20 grand, two weeks. I'll be sad. And he's going to have to get another Brompton

after having two stolen. It's like, I mean, she's tough. She's tough like that. So I wish, I wish I had a little bit of that. That's impressive,

man. Good for her. Well, long may she reign I want to mention another message that you sent me more recently. Oh, shit. I know what it's going to be about. Yeah. What was that message?

Do you want me to quote it? Say it. Go on, say it. All right. Email from Guz May of this year, 2023. And we were talking about let's do another podcast. Oh, yeah. And you said, yeah, I got some shit I want to talk about.

Like, I want to quit this thing we do. Yeah. But I want to run it by you. This is true. This is something I've had since maybe like a year into this, yeah? Which is like, what am I doing? Hmm. Because what am I doing? What am I doing?

Career-wise, we're talking about. Yeah, yeah, not life, quite like life and stuff. Kids are great and business is great and family. But like career, I'm like, what am I doing? And I think this is what I want to run by you. I was working in and around people who would say something to me like, I can't stand the way that person's behaving

within the work remit. And I'm like, why? And so you've got to remember, I'm around that person too, but I haven't seen it because they're not behaving in that way towards me. Right? And I'm like, what do they do?

We'd be on set. We'd be like, guys, five minutes to set. And then this big conversation starts. They were really rude to This Person in costume And I'm like Who said

You saw it with your own eyes This is really important to me You saw it with your own eyes Yeah I saw it And I'm like Yeah We're going to say something And so

Not in the middle But when we had time I was like Bro can I speak to you And the girl was really upset I corroborated the story With the person who it happened to, right? And I thought, why are you being rude like that for? And they were, Adam, like, no, I completely didn't.

I didn't. I'm like, but, and they were like, who said that? And I was like, well, this person brought it to my attention. And then the person came over and they were like, I didn't say anything. I didn't. Oh, really? Yeah. They were like, I didn't say anything. I didn't. Oh, really? Yeah. I didn't say anything.

But remember, I haven't just done this. I've run it by them like this is what I'm going to say. And then the person's like, no, it's fucking no way. I didn't do this. You're lying. You're lying. And now I'm like, now I'm standing there like a dickhead. And then afterwards they messaged me and they said,

oh, just that person's really important. Got a position of authority within the set and whatever it is, right? Political maneuverings in that environment, that high pressure environment. And do you think that that's peculiar? Was that the first time you'd seen that kind of behavior? So you hadn't seen it in other parts of your life? It's peculiar to the entertainment world. To the entertainment world, right?

And no, I hadn't. So to go back to that, sorry if I'm not making sense. parts of your life. It's peculiar to the entertainment world. To the entertainment world, right? Uh-huh. And no, I hadn't. So to go back to that, sorry if I'm not making sense. Then later that afternoon, then they all sit around joking together and like, ha, ha, ha.

And I was like, it really got to me. As a person, this is not my nature, bro. I can't, I can't. Do you want to be straight with people? Yeah, I can't. Yeah. Like, be straight with people yeah i can't yeah like be

straight with people in a in a night like in a nice way not your dickhead but like in in like and i was like it really got to me so much that i just called my miss i was like i just want to walk off this whole set like everything is so like everything is so pretend box like it's so performative as maybe people use that word. And then it just started spreading out beyond that. And I suppose what I don't like too much is. If someone's got a problem with you. And they come to me and say.

Oh that fucking Adam Buxton. Yeah. Yeah. Always walking his dog doing jingles. That guy. He's like this. From what I know of you. You've always been beautiful with me.

I will never be like, is it? Tell me more about that, Adam Buxton. My first thing would be like, if that's how you feel, bro, you should say it to Adam Buxton, right? And I suppose this game and this industry that I'm in, it started having this pull on me where I'm like, I have a choice. I don't have to do this. I don't have to go out on stage and tell jokes

or write Man Like Moby or do an acting job. There's loads of other things I could do in life, bro. Like, so many things. Life is left undiscovered and untouched. I'm not so important that I'm like, I was born to perform to the people of the world. No, don't be so fucking stupid. I could have been a manager, a manager area manager at Asda

whatever it might be and I was just like it's so not like it made me feel a bit sick it's so in tune with not who I am as a person maybe I should

maybe I've done my bit I don't have to be surrounded by this energy and it just in a weird way it just that just gets worse the higher the stakes are

the bigger the budget is the bigger the names are. Well, we've seen, obviously, recently, we're recording this in October 2023. Russell Brand has been in the news recently. Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah. I saw all that. And we are often made aware around those kinds of stories about what is tolerated when it comes to important people, important in

quotes, important to the TV industry. Because I mean, the entertainment industry is so weird, because it is all about these very ephemeral qualities of personality. And they are the foundation of your business. So you get an interesting, sparky personality. And people want to go and see a movie with that personality in it or watch a TV show with them in it. And suddenly they're getting away with all sorts of things and people aren't challenging them on bits of bad behavior that may be trivial and just a bit rude, ranging from that kind of thing to something way more serious. that kind of thing to something way more serious. I mean, I've never seen anything really awful happen in that way, but I've certainly seen behavior on set where you would, I mean, I've done so little of that kind of stuff. No, don't say it. But the times when I have been on sets,

I've seen people just lose their shit and yell at people a couple of times. And I just thought, what the fuck is that? And everyone's just so shocked that everyone is standing there and embarrassed. I was sort of wanting to laugh because it seemed ridiculous to me. But if I was the focus of that person's rage, I wouldn't be laughing. I would be humiliated and upset. And it was kind of upsetting because i obviously i felt like well it's not very nice to see that person being yelled at it's going to be

humiliating for them so it's a really unpleasant thing to witness especially as it's so unimportant what you're doing thank you bro this bro. This is why I want to... Look, you said it at the beginning of the podcast. We only met in person once. But this is why I said I wanted to run it by you. Because I sense the energy of exactly what you just said, which I think would holistically improve this entire framework that we work in.

It's if people understood what you just said. Say it for me one more time, bro. What did you just say? You just said it's just not... In the scheme of things, it's not important. I think people become deranged by the pressure, the pressure to succeed, the pressure to make money for the people

that are paying your wages, the pressure to be a hit, the pressure to get ahead, to be a success, to have status, all these things which people feel in all aspects of life, but in the entertainment industry are so exaggerated. Yeah.

And it becomes a kind of madness. And so, bro, this is, I was just, it's still with me right now. Hopefully you can see it in my face. I was still like, maybe it's my deficiency, because I've always been in trouble for this. People at school, no matter what it is, I'm there and I'm seeing, I'm seeing, I'm seeing. You let it go for a minute, you're like...

And then you're like... But sir... Get out! Get out! Girl, I'm fucking Khan. Get out of my classroom. Since day one, it's been like that. Well, it's good, man. The world needs people like you, I'm fucking con. Get out of my classroom. Since day one. It's been like that.

Well, it's good, man. The world needs people like you, I think, that will call out, that will call things out and also will be happy to have the conversation if you've seen it wrong and if you've misinterpreted it. 100%. But to call it out, to not say anything. And look, I'm saying all this as if i'm the kind of person

that would also call it out i don't know if i would maybe i'm the kind of person who would just sit there and feel embarrassed and like i i mentioned being on set when this guy was freaking out one time and losing his temper in front of the rest of the crew i didn't say anything probably what i should have done and i think it probably crossed my mind was to say hey hey it's not necessary to shout is it why why why is there shouting like it's fine let's calm everything down I suppose I felt like to be that person was above my status in that moment it wasn't my place to be that person but But of course, of course it is. It should always be. If you think that you're seeing something happening that isn't right, then yeah, you should say something.

And you can always be told you were wrong. That's the big thing. You're going to get stuff wrong. Yeah. You're going to see it the wrong way. So it's never been worse than that. You've never seen anything really heinous. Oh, no, no, no.

And again, bro, I would assume like a lot of people like someone will say something about this and I never see it. But I met that person same day. Oh, that person's cool. Like nothing, nothing heinous, 100%. How do you feel now then? Do you feel like, because presumably you are still getting the occasional offer. For sure. Yeah. now then do you feel like because presumably you are still getting the occasional offer and uh yeah and i work with both and i did not to be weird about it i work with great people wonderful sets lovely black it's it's beautiful but i think i just suppose in my head i'm like

i mean you can make a choice not to be like for me i think this was a, oh, Gus, what an incredible journey. From Coventry and you were up to that and then you became a teacher and then you stumbled into it. I'm like, yeah, it's cool. But like, it's not going to define who I am as a human being to the point where I'm like, I couldn't, I can't leave it. I can't start. I'd be like, no, we'll find something else. Do you get what I mean? Yeah.

So I can, I feel like, what I suppose, what I definitely know is I'm not going to be doing this for a long, long, long time. Yeah. I need to do something else,

Bucks. You need to be texting me, asking me more about Brother McCartney's and saying, yo, this, and then I'll go off on a tangent.

I'm like, oh, I find out about that. Like, I just, I suppose what I'm saying is maybe even after all these years doing this stuff, it still feels so alien to me

that I'll never really be comfortable in it. And then as a result, whenever my time is to be like, I'm out, see you later, baby. No more social media. I'll be happy to do it. Do you get what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

What would you do? Do you ever imagine what life would be like if you weren't acting and... I don't know. know it could be anything i want to be a paramedic i know that sounds crazy but if i came if you have an heart attack and mobine came through the door i think it would give you an extra level of either concern or like oh better stay alive, it might be easy. Maybe that's because

you want to save your father, Gus. Yes. It's deep. I don't know anything. Anyone say anything. He'd be a great paramedic. I think I would be

a fun paramedic. Yeah, man. so you're going out on tour i I am, bro. Stand-up? Bit of stand-up stuff. That's a very nurturing and supportive environment. The stand-up world. What are you like in the green room of a mixed-bill stand-up show? Are you one of the more stressy people or are you easygoing? Do you like that environment?

I never do it, Box. I barely do it. The last time I've been on stage to do stand-up comedy was, I want to say January this year. What are we in now? October. We're in October. I haven't done it. When we do stand-up, it's usually me,

one of my best friends or two of my best friends my tour manager is he's a great lad but you know was a former naughty lad from alam rock in birmingham so even the team when it comes to stand-up is really like familiar what i'm what i'm used to you know i mean they're not like no one's backstage saying guys you're gonna smash this that netflix special is coming they're all like fucking hurry up man i'm hungry it's not me that's that's my energy backstage you have to do 55 minutes just do 45 i'm hungry man let's go let's leave the venue fucking nobody's thousand people there fuck them man i'm hungry man let's go so my but it's that's what it's like backstage i don't really do too many mixed bills all i all i know is what's

really nice from a performing point of view is you're in that room with these incredible people who've come to see you and you get to share a moment i'm bro i'm like in terms of skill level and learning the craft to stand up comedy i'm still on i'm still on baby steps i just like to get out there grab a mic and see what's going on. And how are you with hecklers? James Acaster, as we speak, has a show called Heckler's Welcome. Can you imagine what? Is that what Acaster's doing? He's just welcoming all in.

Yeah. The show is called Heckler's Welcome. And so part of the show, as I understand it, I haven't seen it, is that he's sort of exploring in part his relationship with audiences and how sometimes he's got into a bit of an adversarial relationship with people in shows and sort of ended up shouting at people. You know what's crazy though? Like the first thing you said to me when you said he's Heckler's welcome,

I don't know what the fan base is like now, but I think there's a difference in hecklers who come from the local church fate are you characterizing his yeah his audience audience is church fate i'm saying church fate audience what was i saying what they're gonna heckle man like what are you what are you really heckling my son son went to see him. My son is a big church vape guy. No, he can't see my boy. You know what I mean? In my head, that's my prejudice.

I'm like... I know. And my son, who I don't think is easily shocked, but he was quite shocked by the level of heckling. This was a while back. This was not on the Heckler's Welcome Tour. This was a few years ago. And he said, yeah, it was pretty annoying people just being massive dickheads and shouting things out, which to me seems very weird because James is a very, I think of him as quite a cerebral comedian. like very obvious material, very mainstream material. It's sort of, in my mind, it's kind of experimental a lot of the time and quite edgy.

How many people who come to watch us perform, any of us, what number of those people are actually there thinking, he's shit, I could do better? You get what I mean? I think there's a lot of people who come to these shows and be like, oh, he's fucking shit. I'm so much better. So when it comes to this heckling stuff, I bet you if I sit out there, who's got something to say?

Oh, Boxer, you're going to hear some crazy stuff. That's never occurred to me that there are people thinking that they're better. I just think that if you pay money to go and see someone performing live, you probably like that person. And so I would imagine that the default setting for most of those audience members is not your shit I could do better. It's I like you. I would like to see you do your thing.

And it would be annoying if the show was derailed by some twat who's shouting stuff out. That's how I think of it. That's probably very naive. I suppose someone's just trying to derail. Derail is a very serious word. And it trains on that. So someone's trying to derail your shit

is just bad vibes. But if someone's like... Yeah, if they're being spicy and genuinely funny then that's great but haven't you ever been to a show that has been completely torpedoed by someone who is drunk who won't shut up who isn't funny and they're just disrupting the show and and the performer gets rattled they get into a sort of adversarial dialogue. They try to be funny. And it doesn't work. It doesn't work.

It's just a bad vibe all round. I don't think I've been through that. There's been fights after gigs. What kind of fights? Fist fights, bro. Not with you involved? No, a couple of times. But like,

a couple of times. Once was like, once was, I was trying to bounce from the gig quick. Because they're hungry. I've always established the boys are hungry, eh? So I was trying to bounce. And we got to the car

and then someone's come out and they're like, can we have a picture? Okay. And then her partner the car and then someone's come out and they're like, can we have a picture? Okay. And then her partner's come and gone, what are you taking photos of my girlfriend for? And I'm like, huh? So you think this is something I wanted? And he was fuming and his mates were with him.

So that was... And it kicked off? Full thumpers, bro. Oh my God. Mine was and it kicked off full thumpers bro oh my god mine was swinging it out and what was amazing is

after it was 90 seconds and then it all got broken up yeah but good bangs were thrown in 90 seconds 90 seconds 90 seconds box in a street fight is quite a long time

that's ages all I remember is she stood to the side and was just editing the photo that's my lasting that's my lasting memory of it she stood to the side and was just editing the photo. That's my lasting memory of it. Yeah, that doesn't happen after my gigs too often. But now, hold on,

but listen, if somebody's trying to, is the word a cost you? Mm-hmm. You got to punch them. You got a guitar with you. How do you swing that guitar? No, I don't have my guitar too often.

It would be, I'd have to hit them with my MacBook Pro. You could kill them. Yeah, definitely. You know, bro, that's three to six years. If I catch them on the side with the Pro. On the temple with the Pro. No, that's serious. I hope it never comes to that.

But so far, that hasn't been an issue. My audiences are delightful. That's wonderful to hear. Yeah, it's pretty nice, actually. I'm lucky. Do you ever find yourself having to manage the audience if they're unruly? Did you see the video of the guy at the Adele show in Las Vegas earlier this year year no no it is he wasn't so adele is playing a show in some big venue in las vegas and it's seated and there was someone sat quite far back with a selfie stick and he is filming himself singing along with all the numbers, but very loudly. And he is doing all the moves, and he's at the front of a sort of seating block. He's standing up.

He is throwing shapes. He is... And you can see on his video, a woman from a few rows back comes up, taps him on the shoulder, and she's obviously saying, like, I paid this money to see Adele. And all I'm getting is you filming your Instagram video and just screaming your tits off. Standing up, I can't actually even see her or the video screens, any chance of you just being a bit more considerate. And so the guy sits down initially,

but then he's up again a minute or so later. And then a security guard comes over and says, come on, mate, sit down. Otherwise, we're going to eject you, I think. Then someone yells to Adele. They're trying to make this guy sit down. And she stops the song and she says, no, no, no, no, no. You let the guy stand up. He's fine. Leave him alone. And so it caused a kind of controversy on social media. Are you with the guy or are you with the woman who wants him to sit down and just be a bit more considerate? What is the correct etiquette at a gig? For me, I was not on the side of the guy standing up and doing his video i mean the solution of course would be if they had a bit like on the train a quiet carriage you know you can go on the quiet carriage if you don't want to hear people making phone calls yeah you just go on the

quiet carriage i suppose for gigs like that which have seated, then you have to have a designated, like don't stand up area. Because otherwise, I had this the other day, I went to a show, and I was in a balcony seated area, you know, like a second tier kind of thing in a theater. And I was thinking, I've got a seat, I'm gonna sit down for this show, I'm gonna be able to see because I'm small right so I can see it's just beautiful and then the other day I just had a guy standing right in front of me two songs in he gets up starts grooving around and his partner is there she's filming everything and she keeps tapping the screen because someone's told her that if you keep tapping where you want it to focus it'll focus all I'm seeing for the rest of the show is tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, focus, focus, focus, focus, focus, focus, focus. You want the MacBook Pro then?

You want the MacBook Pro then? If I'd had the MacBook Pro, I would have nudged them with it. Courtesy, Andy Brooke. Courtesy. Is that the word? Yes. Courtesy. Who did you watch?

It was Pulp. I don't know too much yeah but i could have told you books and people would be vibing out yeah it was a very euphoric show it was a great show well here's an added level of um name droppy detail for you because uh i had a nice seat thanks to my friend who was involved with the production and the people sitting in front of me i think the whole row in front of me was all famous people oh so the guy who was blocking my view was uh this guy called Fisher Stevens. He's an actor. You would recognize him. He's in Succession.

Oh. He was standing next to Matt Dillon. Do you know the actor Matt Dillon? He's like one of the most famous people in the world when I was growing up. Matt Dillon. Matt Dillon seemed a little more self-conscious. He wasn't completely happy about standing up,

also because he's quite a tall man. How big is he? I mean, he's got to be nudging six foot at least. Whereas Fisher Stevens is a little smaller, but made himself more voluminous by waggling his arms around as enthusiastically as he was. Apparently, he's an amazingly nice guy. I was told by some friends afterwards,

they went to the after show and they were like, you know who's the most cool guy I ever met? Fisher Stevens. Fisher Stevens. So nice. Yeah, but it turns out Fisher Stevens done fucked up your evening. He didn't totally fuck it,

but he certainly made me quite angry for about three or four songs. You've seen a rapper, she's called Cardi B. Someone's very offended that she did it, but somebody threw something at her whilst on stage, which is very confrontational. They threw a drink, I believe. Yeah, this is happening a lot recently, I've heard.

And her response was to dash the microphone at their head. Oh, yes. And I think that that person might have learned their lesson. That's what I'll say about that. So, you know, you have to fuck Fisher Stevens up. What I want you to know is, even if everyone's like, oh, I'm with you. You know who Fisher Stevens is?

Because you referred to his character the last time in the podcast, I was listening to it this morning. to know is if even if everyone's like oh i'm with you you know who fisher stevens is because you referred to his character the last time in the podcast i was listening to it this morning he played the indian guy in short circuit fisher steve that's the guy that's the guy he smacked him for me you should have said by the way brown face bow sit down at the pulp gig he's apologized for it i know bless him big old fisher stevens and what i heard about that role was that originally it the character was a white guy and they decided after they'd cast a white guy to play this part they decided you know we should we should get a bit of diversity you know what

I'm gonna speculate I'm gonna speculate okay I'm gonna speculate I don't know about who they were about the diversity but I think

because we have to admit it was a spectacular accent for the time yeah yeah it was very convincing I mean it's a likeable character yeah he was there at lunchtime

I don't know and they said fucking amazing officially for the time. Yeah, yeah. It's very convincing. I mean, it's a likable character. Yeah, he was there at lunchtime. I don't know. And they said, fucking amazing. Fishery. You want to do Fisher? Come on. Let's fucking do it for a whole movie, bro.

Johnny's bleeding. Never forget. Fisher Stevens, if you listen to this podcast, you could have been bleeding because you were fucking with Adam Buxton. You hear that?

It would never come to that. He is supposedly a delightful person. Johnny's bleeding. It's very funny because I was like, oh, who's this big brute of a human?

Fucking with your experience at the pulp gig. Johnny's bleeding. Johnny's bleeding ruined your day. Shoot. What would he have done? What would he have done if you tapped him on the shoulder and said, that's enough of that Johnny's bleeding?

He probably would have. If I said it like that, I don't know. What? What did you say? But I wouldn't be able to do the accent, would I? You would.

You got a pass from me. If, bro, if Johnny's bleeding is ruining your cake, you tap him on the shoulder and say, that's enough of that Johnny's bleeding.

And then someone else is going to overhear and tweet that I was doing an Indian accent. Oh my god! What could have been, Brooks? What could have been, Brooks? This is an advert for Squarespace.

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Oh, rosy, flappy birds. Don't patronise me. I apologise. In today's podcast description, there's a link to an article from Entertainment Weekly, Fisher Stevens' regrets playing Indian role. There's a link to an interview from 2015 in which Fisher-Stevens talks about

having done the role at a very early point in his career when he was a struggling actor and talks about the fact that he did his best to play the role in Good Faith. Did quite a lot of prep. Went out to India for a while. Worked with a dialect coach. I've also included a link to some of the commentary around that video of the person filming themselves at the Adele show.

And as well as a link to Guz's website, where you can find his tour dates, there's a link to one of his appearances on James Acaster's Perfect Sounds podcast, which I really recommend. In that episode, they're talking about a music genre known as Ethiopian crunch. Whoa! Ethiopian crunch. Whoa. There's also a link in today's description to the first time Guz appeared on this podcast

back in, when did we say? September 2019. Pre-pandy. Okay, I'm going to head back now and cycle to the station. I'm going to London. I and cycle to the station. I'm going to London. I've got a meeting about my book. I think my publishers want to know where the book is.

It's fine. It's nearly there. It's nearly there. It's going to be great. OK, thank you very much to Seamus Murphy Mitchell for his production support and conversation editing on this episode thanks to all at deca we used one of their little studios in king's cross to record the episode and we're well looked after as ever thanks guys thanks to helen green she does the artwork for the podcast check her stuff out there's a link in the description it's brilliant thanks to all at a cast for all the hard work they put into helping me with sponsors and keeping the show on the road

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