The Always Sunny Podcast - Charlie Gets Crippled

Episode Date: December 10, 2021

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not that though.

Just got a text from Rob McElhaney saying that he's walking in. Well, the thing is, we agreed to meet at 8.30 in the morning. We did say it was going to be an 8.30 start. And we said 8.30, right? It's 8.33. I was here about five of. And I would have been had I seen your cars and thought, by the way, did you drive a different car? I'm still parking in the garage.

Oh, I was wondering where you were parking. I don't know. I like the cars not out in the hot sun all day. You don't want your car out in the hot sun. I don't. Well, you know, buddy, you got a Tesla. You can, you can, you can. Don't tell people what I have.

I have a Toyota Corolla. I am a common man. Yes. And you're keeping it real. Yeah. Keeping it real. Yeah. So anyway, we're here.

We're on time. This is the always sunny in Philadelphia podcast. And I got to say, do you are you picking up on this? I feel like it's going a little bit better without Rob. You know what? I, I feel like it's a little bit. Right now, it feels a little bit like that. Oh, here he is.

Oh, look at that. He's walking in. He rolls in whenever he wants to. What time is it? It's 8 36. It's 8 36. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like it would be because we've been here.

I've been here for over six minutes. And yeah, the history of our relationship where I was late. My God. Wow. Yeah, we did say 8 30. Did we not? Boy, there was a real specific text chain. Like, you know, we're going to start at 8 30 and make sure you

watch the episode beforehand. Yeah. I, I watched that in the car on the way here. I did too. I did too. And you know what? It's, it's really not safe. Well, I thought, yeah, it's not safe.

What are you talking about? I was eating my cereal and I was watching the show and I was, my car was driving for me. No, I had it on and, uh, you know, when I was at a stoplight, I would, I would like look down and watch scene. Otherwise I was just listening to it, kind of remembering, which is probably a little bit of a disservice, but there was no time.

There was no time to watch the episode between the last one. What about last night? You couldn't watch the last night. Today was the first day of fucking school and I was with my kids. I didn't say today. I was on last night. I was on dad duty last night. And then by the time I got that kid down, I was wiped.

Yeah. Hmm. Didn't have it in you to watch 20 minutes. If it's always. But you only need a podcast about it. Buddy, I got other people to watch it. I'm not asking anyone to watch. I'm asking them to listen to me talk about something that

they've already watched. That's so years ago. And by the way, listener, we have already established that Charlie Day has a Tesla. Sorry, buddy. Out of you. Rob's also got a Tesla. What?

Rob's also got a Tesla. Now you're making stuff up. Well, Charlie didn't want people to know that he has a Tesla. He wanted people to think he's driving a Toyota Corolla. Because he's still Jenny from the block. Yeah. That's right. Charlie from the block.

No, I mean, I got a pickup truck. I got a. Right. An F-150. Yeah, that's what I've got. Guys, you know what's funny? Disabilities. Oh, let's talk about the episode.

I thought it was great. You know what? I enjoyed it. Yes. First of all, I think the best way to watch our show is in a car. Do you guys remember? Was that? I don't remember if this is the first time.

I mean, Rob, you were the one that actually went and pitched the show to Danny. You went alone. You went to his house and you pitched in the show. That might actually be an interesting story to tell. But I was going to say, I think the first time the three of us actually sat down with him was that lunch in Beverly Hills. Yeah.

Right? Yeah. Do you remember the name of the restaurant? It was an Italian restaurant. It was an Italian place. Yeah. It was on Beverly Boulevard there. Yeah.

Right near our management company's office because that's where we were writing the show. That's right. We didn't have offices yet. We hadn't figured out that we could ask for something like that. Yeah. And we sat down and we had lunch with Danny. It was a very strange lunch.

Danny was lovely, but he also would go in and out of character. And we just didn't know. And we didn't know when he was. We didn't know when he was. I think there's something I picked up. But like these guys that came up through that sort of 70s Hollywood into 80s Hollywood have a tendency to speak in non sequiturs, right, which, which I think was more accepted than because

like everything was like groovier. So it was like, yeah, like even conversations were like a suggestion of a conversation. So I was like, man, like, you know, like, you know, like, oh, man, and all that. And then, you know, there's, and then with the war, the war, and then all that. And then the other guys are, yeah, no, I dig him in and so forth.

Like, you know, you at the time you were hanging out with Nicholson at the Lakers game and he was just talking gibberish to you. Oh, wait, what's that story? I don't know that story. Yeah. This is the best. And this is let me tell it for you because this is why I love good. Charlie just wants to prove that he remembers the story.

This is true. I remember this thing. Uh, this is why I love about Rob. But you, I'm, I'm, I'm shy to the extent where I won't, I don't want to ruffle anyone's feathers, right? Yeah. And here you're at a, it was Danny at the game. Oh yeah.

That's how I met Jack. So you and Danny and Jack are at a Lakers game. I didn't go with Jack. I was with Danny. Yeah. Yeah. Jack goes to all the games. Yeah.

Yeah. No one goes with Jack. Jack was a standing invitation. And so he's there and he keeps turning to Rob and he's spitting like gibberish at you. Like, give me some examples of. Yeah. Like, first of all, let's say it's Jack Nicholson.

So you're like, Oh, this will be cool. But I don't want to bother him. Yeah. But if he says something to me, I'm going to respond in kind and he's very clearly a basketball fan. Oh yeah. And I was there to enjoy the basketball game and he, he said something turned to me and I was like, Oh, he's going to talk to me.

This is cool. Holy shit. And he said something like 45 half, you know, and then back, back, back to the quarter and that'll be 45 half. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. And I was like, What? Huh?

What, what man? And he's like, I wish I remember the exact phrase because it was in fact, I remember I texted it to you and right after it happened that I was like, this is what the guy said to me in the cloud somewhere. It's going to find it. I think that was six phones ago. Sure. Yeah.

That's what I mean. It's just somewhere, you know, the NSA is looking at it. They've got it. Gates, he's got it. Gates, he's got it. He's all over it. What's this text now? Sometime up in the, uh, in the at the half court there and I was like,

I don't, maybe I can't hear him correctly because it's loud and I said, I don't know what you're talking about. You said that to him. Yes. And then he just laughed and like turned away and I was like, well, Jack Nichols and everybody. I don't know what you're talking about. But I want it, but not in a, I wanted to engage with him.

Yeah. No, no, no, the way you told it to me and I respected it more in this version was you got, eventually you got frustrated and you were like, look, man, I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah. You know, which was the balls on you to do that. I would just, again, that's that Philly thing, man. I would be so insecure around him likely that I'm just imagining that I would,

I would respond to him. I'd be like, absolutely, man. Yeah. 45 and a half. 45 and a half. And then some hundred percent. And can you believe it? Right.

Just trying to make you something out of it. Yeah, I would take whatever I could out of it and just go with the flow. But see, this is, I think I wanted to, I wanted to engage with him in a meaningful way. I would engage just the word I need. 45. Absolutely. 45, man.

Well, this is the problem with, with somebody that is super, super famous, has been super duper famous for a very long time. It is not required of them from the people that surround them to make sense. Right. They can literally say and do whatever the fuck they want. And people will be like, yeah. Yeah, Jack. Being around Danny was a good introduction for us to that where it's like,

sometimes he would say like a, like a, again, a non sequitur on the set. And then people will like die laughing. And we'd be like, what the fuck is he talking about? What's he talking about? But like now, I don't know. Now I die laughing at everything the guy says. But I do think that's a symptom of being surrounded for so many years by people that just laugh at whatever you say.

Even if it doesn't make any sense and isn't funny at all, because you're Danny DeVito and nobody wants to ruffle your feathers and everybody wants to be in your good graces. So they're just like, yeah, they didn't just, you know, they just laugh at your fucking nonsense. And to the point where, where you just start to go like, well, I guess everybody understands what's in my head. And you just say whatever the fuck is in your head.

Possibly. It's like you say the middle. Then there's also that 70s thing, man, of like, hey, there was a lot of partying and life was loose, conversations were loose. Okay, brain. And, and, and to be full circle back to the conversation, we had that breakfast with him or lunch and it was conversations like, yeah, my dad used to keep a box out like watches and teeth.

And, you know, it could be like that. And hold on a second. I just want to clarify that is you're not just making something up right now. That was the car. That's word for word. He was saying that his grandfather kept a box of watches and his father. His father. I thought it was grand.

Okay. Yeah. Either way, a man in his life. A man, yes, an old punk man in his life, kept a box of watches and teeth and was telling us some kind of a story. And we were like, is he telling us a story as himself or is he being frank right now? It was very hard for us to tell if he was in character or a few like. He might have been in character that entire lunch.

And I just did when we were like, I don't know. But if you really stop down and look at it there, can we speak with Danny? If you look at it, the show did become about a fucking lunatic who would have a bunch of watches and teeth in a box. And he was right. He was spot on. Yeah. Just funny to be talking to us like we're Milos Forman as opposed to three dudes

making a dick and ball comedy at lunch in the middle of Beverly Hills. Yeah. It's like, you don't have to do this shit with us, man. Like, you know, we're not, we're not at the actress studio. This is that you don't have to be all fucking. You can just come in and kind of say your lines. Once we got him, I went back and watched every single Danny DeVito thing that I could because I wanted to be like, what other ways is he funny?

Like, we knew we were like, all right, we're not going to do like short jokes. It's lazy. You know, he doesn't want us. I mean, he didn't say that, but we didn't want to be doing like that kind of thing. So like, what are some things? Well, it was like, there are some obvious ways. It isn't why because you guys remember was not that though. Remember that came from Johnny Shortarms or Frankie Shortarms, Frankie Shortarms.

Right, but there was a guy named something Shortarms. It was like a teamster in New York. Yeah. That like, I remember I had him on the show Third Watchers driving me around. So yeah, and he had like short arms. So we thought it'd be funny. So when we were doing the gang or whatever the boxing episode, whatever the fighting episode, boxing episode is called a hundred dollar baby.

We we thought it'd be funny if Frank's nickname when he was back when he was young and he was a boxer was Frankie Shortarms. And he was and we were pitching this to him. We were like, you know, so you were younger and you were like a boxer, you know, when you were younger and you had like a nickname like Frankie Shortarms. And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, not that though ever since then, like not that that has become like an ongoing phrase. Like, you know, whenever somebody pitches something that you think is not that funny,

we're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, not that though. Haven't worked in a writer's room for so many years specifically with you guys and like, you know, only 30% of the time you're actually laughing. It's maybe something I pitch and then you're like, oh, OK, that's good. But like 70% of the time you guys are just like, no, not that though or staring at me or whatever. And we all do that to one another. Sure.

And then, you know, like, it's not a good feeling. It's not a good feeling, but it's like so important to the process. Right. So like 10 years, the show's been on the air. And I remember being in a room in a room over at Carousel. And you guys, for whatever reason, weren't there that morning or something. And there was a room full of writers and Megan was there. And I remember I pitched something and the whole room like erupted and laughed her.

And I look and I'm like, oh, OK, I guess that goes on the board. And I look over at Megan. She's not laughing. Uh-oh. And I just looked at her. I said, you didn't find that was funny. What do you think, Megan? She was like, I guess I'm just wondering what it feels like to have an entire room full

of people that you pay laugh at everything you say. Oh, damn, you said that, Megan, it's good for you. And so it's probably like Megan is laughing. By the way, she's laughing over for the for the listener at home. She's laughing and. Oh, my God, I just remember. I remember you would be like, can we fire? We got a fire.

We got to fire this girl. Like, what are you talking about? I imagine. I just think we said girl too. I was like, get this girl out of here. Right. Right. I know she's a girl.

She's a 29 year old, 30 year old girl. Yeah. No, but I definitely remember like laughing, of course, and then really thinking about that quite a bit because it's it's exactly what you're talking about, which is if you continue to surround yourself with people, a, who you hire, right, or B, who just like say yes or laugh at everything you say, then of course, slowly, but surely you're going to turn into that person that thinks that everything they say is funny. That's right.

If you don't surround yourself with people who check you and tell you, hey, man, that's not funny. It shouldn't go on the show. Then your shit's going to suffer. That's right. I will argue, though, with Danny specifically, everything he says is fucking funny. Like, but, but, but like, you got to learn to speak his language. Not necessarily what he's saying is funny, but he has an essence because I remember,

you know, in that first season for us, it was a little confusing to be like, oh, well, you know, he's jumbling some of these lines in a way that like the line doesn't make as much sense when he does it in that order. And we can't necessarily like, you know, it wasn't so egregious that like we weren't getting through a scene, but like, oh, he's kind of switching that line up. And it's not as funny, but like you watch it and you watch, you go back and you watch those episodes. It doesn't matter what he's saying or in what order.

Right. Like his spirit, his essence, his attitude is so amusing. The jumbled up messed up version of the line ends up being funnier than the line itself. Yeah. This is a moment of appreciation for Danny DeVito doing the show because that thing, that star quality thing, and Danny's not like a star. He's a superstar. He's a mega, mega superstar.

He's iconic. People love him. The fact that this guy came onto the show. I still don't know why. He's crazy. I still don't know why. He's crazy. I was having that experience watching and listening to the episode this morning being

like, he completely transformed this thing. And I don't think there is a show without him, man. No. No, no, no, no. Definitely not. Oh my God. No. There is no show without him.

Anyway, that's my appreciation for this guy. Well, so I had a question for you guys that's kind of related to, that is related to this episode. Have you guys ever, have either of you ever pretended to be something that you are not in order to get something that you want? Like in a major way, like these characters? Well, I was going to say besides pretending to be a showrunner. Oh, OK.

OK. I did used to dress up. My friend's dad had a, one of those airplane landing lights. It's like that cone light. Cool. And we found it in his basement. And he had like a, like a, like an orange like work coat too down there. So we, I did used to.

Robs laugh. Why are you laughing? I was just thinking about, we went down to the airfield. And we were taking planes down into the lake. No, we didn't do that. But we did go into an intersection and direct traffic. Oh, shit. That's really fun.

Yeah. Yeah. So my friends, my friends were hiding in the bush with a walkie-talkie. And I, and I had the walkie-talkie in the airplane thing. So the car would come up and they would go on the walkie-talkie like, yeah, I'm talking. I shit sent the fan down there, man. You can't go down that street. I'm like 14 years old.

How old? 14. I'm like, yeah, you can't go down that street. You're going to have to take a left here on Vernon. And you're going to want to head down to Federer. You can take it right there. Yeah, one out of six. And like, basically we would get like five or six cars and tell someone like, what is this?

What do you do? And you know, and then we ultimately, we would get chased. That's a funny thing. That's a funny thing. The goal is to get chased. Do you, as a driver, approach someone with a walkie-talkie and one of those things. A vest and a light. And a vest and a light in the whole time.

And the guy is trying to give you, you know, tell you where to go with the light and doing the whole thing. But you're like, but he's, he looks like he's 14 years old. This can't be right. Like, there's no sign of work or trouble. No, you know, but do you do it? There's a man in the street. What the 14-year-old says. Um, 80% of people do.

I bet. Yeah. Well, yeah. You know now. And 20% of them chase you through the woods. Which was the ultimate goal? I don't know if this falls into the same category of what you ask, but it falls into the category of what Charlie just, uh, the story he told.

But we, I was like 16 or 17, maybe, maybe younger. Uh, and I used to play this game, uh, which was so cruel and terrible, uh, that we called dead guys and it was, we would be at the Jersey Shore and you'd wait to like sunset. And then you knew that people were just sort of like walking down the beach. And so we would just roll in the surf as if we were dead, as if we were dead, like a dead body. And so like you, you know, you could breathe, but you would just kind of like flop around and then the waves would like come up and crash you.

And then people wouldn't know what was going on, but they saw, and they would be watching like, what's happening? Did you kind of have your eyes open a little bit? Just a little bit, just to get the reaction. But then there'd be other, and then, and then they'd come running over like, are you okay? And then you just get up and run away. And the last time we did it, I was doing it with a friend of mine, Dennis Hogan. Uh, and, and it was a group of guys, like guys like probably in their 20s and they,

they were like, oh my God, are you okay? And we were like, yeah. And we ran into the water and then we were like laughing and joking. And then we looked and they, they were standing on the beach and they were just waiting. And we were like, hey, and they were like, come on out boys. And we were like, oh no, it was just a joke. And they were like, yeah, well, it wasn't funny to us. We'll be here for you.

And we were like, dude, these guys are going to kick our ass. Which they should, which they absolutely should. And so we were like, what the fuck did we do? So we tried to swim like up and down the beach, but you can walk a lot better than someone can swim. So they would just walk with us. And, and they, and we just, so we just waited in the water for three hours until finally they left. And then we walked away in shame and never did it again. Oh my God.

Wow. Last time I played dead guy, I almost killed myself. While we covered that, we covered that one. I did a similar thing with my buddies. Like right when I got my driver's license, I guess I was 16 and all my friends were younger and we would drive around doing bad things. But I would pull up at an intersection and I would pretend to pass out on the horn. So my head would be on the horn and my friends would be panicking like trying to revive me and the people

and the people like cause we want to see the reaction of the people in the car next to us. And they'd be looking over, most people didn't do anything. Occasionally someone rolled down the wind and be like, are you okay? And then we just like laugh and speed out of there. Just to be a dumb young idiot. Just to be a dumb young idiot. Just to get a little laugh, just to get a little rise out of life, you know? That's harmless shit.

That made me think of a really stupid prank that I, that I used to play over the, okay. So when, uh, when I first moved to LA, um, I, my parents had, thankfully they hang, they hung on to my high school, uh, my car that I got my senior year. It was a 1990 Acura Legend. Pretty sweet. Pretty sweet. And this car, uh, had, um, a, one of those giant brick, you know, car phones in it. Those old school car phones from like the early nineties.

So I had to go pick up my car in Montgomery, Alabama and drive it out to LA, which is like a three day trip. I mean, you can do it in less, but I didn't want to kill myself. Uh, so this, this, this giant, so I never took that giant brick phone out of the car because I just thought it was so funny. Um, so, uh, I'd be driving down the freeway and just, just in order to keep myself amused and awake, I would do this thing where, uh, I was, I would be driving with my knees and I would have both hand, I would have the giant brick phone, which by

the way, at that point would have been a 15 year old phone. Like, you know, we had Nokia's and shit like that, but it looked ridiculous. So I would pull up next to somebody on the freeway. I'd have this giant brick phone in my hand and with the other hand, I'd be gesturing wildly, having a very furious conversation with someone on this giant brick phone, not paying attention to the road at all, completely not using my hands. And I still to this day don't notice, I don't know if anybody actually ever noticed that I was doing it, but I, I sure got a kick out of it.

I thought it was fun. I'm hearing three stories of young men who are desperate for attention. Oh, definitely desperate for anybody to pay attention. I was doing a bit. I was doing an acting bit. Yeah. You just want people to pay attention. Yeah.

Yeah. All stupid. Look at me. Yeah. Look at me. Mom, dad, look at me. Friends for me was with my, it was all about my group of friends. Like let, let me make them laugh.

I didn't even have anybody with me when I was doing this stupid fucking. Like this was purely for my own amusement. Hopefully someone will watch. I stand by it. I stand by it. I think it was a fun, I think it was a funny bit. I think if you look over and you see some guy with a giant brick phone and he's gesturing wildly with both of his hands, I think, I think that that's funny.

I think that's a good bit too. Thanks, man. I like that. I appreciate it. That's a bit approved in my book. Boy, I also listened to the first two Harry Potter books on that trip. So guys, yeah, it was a long trip, wasn't it? Um, where were you guys?

Do you remember? Where were you when season two got picked up and you found out the news and what were your feelings about it? What, what, how did it make you feel? What did you think? Where were you when you got the news and how did you feel? I don't recall. Well, I know where I was.

I know exactly where I was when Danny signed on to do the show. Okay. Because it was minutes after I left his house. He called John and John called me and I was like almost like on his street still. And then I called you guys like immediately. So that, I think that was like why we got picked up, right? So as soon as he signed on, that was sort of it. And then it wasn't official yet, but you, but at that point you knew it was like,

that was what was required of us to get somebody who could bring eyeballs to the show on the show and we got someone way better than we ever in a million years could have thought we would have got. And he probably got maybe 15 to 25 more eyeballs on the show. He did. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Maybe 30 more eyeballs, which is 15 people.

That's a lot of people, 15 people, 30 eyeballs. Do you guys remember how much of a hard time we had cutting that final car crash where you guys drive, drive? Yes, totally. Because we didn't have a stunt team. There was no, there was, but, but, but watching it. It's so janky. I like it.

I was just so excited to feel like, oh, the show, I can see how the show like took off from here. It doesn't mean we, we got it right every time, but it feels like, oh, this, this feels like sunny. And it also made me excited about this podcast because I think that that first season of the podcast is a little rocky, but I think this is going to be the episode where we really find our way. Although last, the first season's finale where Mr. Steven Spielberg came in.

Well, that was just a huge get. That was a big get for us. Yeah, because. Yeah, I mean, that was a, like, that was a Danny DeVito level get. Yeah, sure. We got him in season one. I mean, that's pretty cool. I have a feeling he's going to come back.

I think he told me later he had a good time. He said he had a good time. Well, guys, what else? I don't know. Pretty good podcast podcast. Yeah. Should we talk about how good the podcast was? No, definitely.

Should that be a segment where we know? Oh, God, no. Well, right now we're shooting, we're shooting season 15 of the show. And 15. Wow. Monumental. But I do think there was something good about coming in and doing a podcast before we go film because I will say that oftentimes, like when we go to write or whatever, this

is a time where we we joke around, we talk. I feel like we communicate best. Nice. We're not tired yet. You know, we're not old and grubby and tired. Right. We got a cold brew coffee. We got our coffee in us and we're looking forward to the potential of the show.

Is that what it is? I would say that it might be for me that I've now used all of my energy for the podcast and have absolutely nothing left for the filming of the show, but it doesn't matter because I get paid either way. This will be fun. This will be fun for the viewer then after you watch after you listen to this podcast. Yeah. Go and watch the gang replaces D with a monkey because that's what we're watching.

That's what we're going to be about to shoot. And see if Glenn seems a little low energy. See if he seems a little bit low energy. You know what? I'll bring it. I think you'll be fine. I'll force it. I think you'll be fine.

I'll force it. I think you'll be fine. OK. Yeah. Yeah. I could fake it real good now. I figured out how to do that. I honestly have not been present as an actor on this show for many, many years.

Have you been present as a human within your body and your thoughts ever? You know, there was this, there were a couple of times where I did mushrooms. And then you were like, OK. I was like, oh, here it is. Yeah. OK. Here it is. Here I am.

And then the rest of the time, you know, it's like you're, you're doing whatever it is that you're doing, but you're already thinking about like what's, what's for dinner. And like I think it'd be very, very good in today's scenes because it's, you know, it's a lot of like just us in the bar. Oh boy. I got a lot. We have a lot of dialogue today, guys. We got a lot.

There's a lot of talky talky. We do. We do. But, but, but. A lot of talky talky. It's not talky and walky. So like, you know, well, well, it's, it's real. It's real simple stuff.

We'll just be. No walk. No walkie and talky. You don't have to walkie and talky. Not proppy. You know, we're just kind of sitting talking. It's. Very monkey in the room all day.

No, a real monkey. No, a real monkey. Right. Sorry. Yeah. That sort of season one thing. Well guys, this has been fun. I'll see you on set.

Rob, did you go, did you work out this morning? No, I, I, I had some, some crazy dreams. I was up all night from about two to about 430 and then I fell back asleep. What were you dreaming about? I fell back asleep. We dreamt about it. It was, it was dark stuff. Dark stuff, not for this podcast.

Were you dreaming you had COVID? No. Did you kill, did you kill anybody? Did you kill me? No, I have a recurring nightmare that's in that space. Not you. Where you kill. I've worked.

Yeah. It's happened in the past. But there's no guys. You're living with it. Is that, I think, is that like imposter syndrome? Like, you know, to the max where you're like, okay, I'm a fraud and, and, and I'm getting away with something I shouldn't be getting away with. I'm going to get called out.

I think it's feeling, it's definitely feeling guilty about having done something to someone in the past and, uh, you know, but trying to forget about it, but not being able to live with it. You think it's that? In my re, in my, in my own research with therapists over the years, it's actually been the, the former, uh, where it's been a suggestion. There's no actual violence that happens and that there is no, uh, there is no like actual victim. It's just someone who's been, that I've killed and the story that's being told

is that the cops are after me and there's a cop one in particular who's like, I know it was you. And I'm going to, I'm going to come back to you. Well, but that's what I'm talking about. You murdered. So I don't mean that you, that you actually- Is there a cop woman? No.

But that would be- That would be really interesting. No. Stop it. Stop it. But you know, I think there's a fear that you're going to lose it all, right? Like if you're going to be arrested, you're going to lose it all. So probably in your life, you know, you've accomplished these things.

You have this wonderful family. That's what you did. You murdered your career. And you have this, this great career and you have this underlying fear. Well, I'm just, you know, who am I? I'm not a writer. I'm not an actor. I'm just, I'm just Rob.

So like I'm a big phony and it could all be taken away from me. I am here as your friend to tell you that that is true. Um, and, and the sooner you accept that and just let it go and be like, yeah, I'm a big fraud, but so is everyone else. Just ask Steven. Steven doesn't know what he's doing. Steven, just each movie is potential disaster. Steven, who just stepped in the room.

Yeah, I felt good. What, what, what are we talking about? Well, Rob has a posture syndrome and I say, don't fight it and say, oh, I'm a great creator. That's bullshit. Be like, yeah, I'm a fraud. So what? So everyone's a fraud. They can tell you make it, baby.

Yeah. Yeah. Nobody's nobody is what they are until they do what they do. And then once you do it, then you are what you are, whether you are or aren't. You know, basically what I'm saying is that nobody, like you said, nobody really knows what they're doing. So you just have to do it. You just have to do it.

Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing. And you're going to be decisive. That's the thing that you run into a lot of times with the directors where it doesn't work. You see, you gotta be decisive. You have to be decisive.

Whether you're right or wrong, doesn't matter. You have to be decisive. Because you're going to get down to set the sharks not going to work, and then you got to make choices. Yeah. You gotta figure it out. You know, like you could be planning on seeing that shark a lot. Suddenly you're like, you know what, we're going to have to make this where you don't

see the shark a lot. And then that's a lucky thing because then suddenly you're like, this movie's better because I'm not seeing the shark as much as I'm supposed to see in the first place. So shut up about your dreams, Rob. I see you guys. Yeah, Steve. This has been fun. All right.

See you on set. See you on set. See you on set. All right. All right.