The Always Sunny Podcast - Cricket (with special guest, David Hornsby!)
Episode Date: August 15, 2022Who wants to perform for candy?...
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Well, it's six after nine and we are rolling.
Are we rolling? Oh, I heard Glenn come in, but he's just.
He's he's slow and everything.
The start time was nine o'clock.
Was the start time?
I remember a text.
Let's look at the text chain here.
Welcome to the podcast.
David, this is what it's like.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, we have a special.
Oh, David wants to decide.
David wants to do a reveal.
Here you go.
We're not rolling it.
Oh, yes, we are.
We go back and do a spin.
Let's do this thing.
Organic.
We are.
OK, turn around, turn around.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the podcast.
Glenn will be joining us.
Whatever he fucking feels like.
Yeah, wait a second.
Charlie is here and Meg is here on time.
Oh, we're starting early.
Oh, we're starting early.
Here comes Glenn, Philip Hissom in America.
Because he's late, because he's late, because he's late.
And Meg, what time was call time?
I look, I don't want to get involved.
You're the producer.
What time is this?
What was call time?
I am.
Amara, what was call time?
You know what?
Hang on.
It's fine.
It's fine.
Yeah, when we say nine, we show up around nine.
You know, we were all here around nine.
I should have.
You know, one minute after my call time.
But before we totally make this about you,
I've noticed there's another person in this space.
I was trying to give him his due, but Glenn walked in and ruined it.
Well, that's late.
No, you guys did that.
All right, let's start it over.
Oh, welcome to the podcast, everybody.
That's your podcast.
That's your podcast.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We've got a very special guest in the studio today.
Oh, there's someone here.
He's used to this kind of bickering because he's known us for 20 years.
Now, if you're listening, you can't see his face.
If you're watching, you can't see his face because he has turned the other way.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is by his strawberry blonde curls and his ladies
and gentlemen, Sandy Duncan, Sandy Duncan in the real name.
David. I'm so sorry.
I didn't honestly thought it was Sandy Duncan.
Oh, yeah. Well, no, I get that a lot.
But well, and Sandy Duncan's gone gray, so that makes sense, too.
Because in the back, it's for you.
Where people don't know who Sandy Duncan is anymore.
I was just about to say for you listeners and watchers out there,
you're probably going to have to look up Sandy Duncan.
Yeah. Well, what's she most famous for?
Besides the Hogan family.
Peter Pan, right?
Peter Pan, yeah.
Peter Pan, Broadway star, but really the Hogan.
She's bought into America's living room by the Hogan family.
She was a replacement, right?
Yeah, for Valerie Harper.
She have a glass eye?
People don't know what that is either.
I mean, but most people don't know what we're talking about.
She got a glass eye.
She had a glass eye, right?
Wait, so do we all know someone with a glass eye, though?
Like, does everyone have someone that they know from their hometown
that's like, oh, yeah, they had a glass eye?
Yeah, I do.
But how often was a glass or how often was it a lazy or wandering eye
that kids assumed was a glass eye?
It was glass, because why wouldn't it move?
Yeah, or why does it move at a different rate?
Why was it aimed a different way?
Yeah, sometimes the eye moves at a slightly different rate.
Like, one moves, and then the other one has to catch up.
Chunks ears from Goonies.
They just like that.
Like, minds of their own.
But no one will get that.
What a disturbing choice in that movie to be like,
I think we're going to make the ears just wiggle
to just terrify kids for, yeah.
Anyway, David's here.
Well done, buddy.
Hey, yeah, good to be here.
Good to be here.
Nothing worse than a podcast on video.
Are you in full hair and makeup today?
No, no hair and makeup.
Well, you look great.
Ran a brush through it.
Yeah, yeah, that's brush.
But you can hit the dermatologist.
Your skin looks fantastic.
No, no, nothing.
Nothing.
Just, you know, wake up and just live with terror and fear
most days.
Yeah, some sort of anger.
And it just, I don't know, maybe just kind of comes
to the surface.
OK.
It just seems like the anger doesn't come through.
Oh, good.
Good.
Oh, well.
I actually don't think you're an angry person.
You can get angry, but I don't think you run hot.
Right.
There's a level of anger underneath it.
I've often said I think a lot of comedy comes from anger.
I don't know if that's, I don't think that's
the case with every comedian, but every one.
If you don't have any anger, I don't trust you at all.
You know what I mean?
I'm suspicious if you're too nice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you have that Southern reserve, the Texas,
like you're holding back.
And I get that from time to time.
It's the boots.
The boots, they contain you.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, that.
Really?
Wow.
No, I never wear no.
You're wearing a high-top sneaker,
which is the boot of sneakers.
The boot of sneakers.
I believe it is.
Charlie, you dressed up for this day.
I wore a little sport coat for David and some ratty jeans
and my T-shirt with the banana on it.
That's the velvet underground.
And the read another thing that nobody knows.
And other people know.
People know who to read.
Now, did these pants tear naturally?
Or is this?
This is a natural knee tear.
Because the rest of the jean looks pristine.
It's the wrong part.
I mean, if you look closely at the podcast,
they have worn the most every episode.
And as they tend to do.
I blew the crotch out of these.
I had to get it fixed.
Oh, man.
And I love those jeans.
I blew the crotch right out.
Can you tell the tale of that?
We saw Chad Coleman this weekend at Comic Class.
We got a Chad on the podcast.
We got to have Chad on the podcast.
Got to have Chad on the podcast.
Yeah, but for now, we haven't seen him.
Yeah, we haven't seen him, David.
Let's see him on the podcast.
We really should get Chad.
We really should get Chad.
It would be so much better if we had Chad.
Let's call him.
But we got David.
We're looking right now.
I was actually remembering with Chad a moment
from one of the episodes where he does the jean shorts, where
he talks about the jean shorts.
The Let's Get Weird one, where you guys were all over at the party.
Got to take them off every now and then.
Yeah, exactly.
And then we were rehearsing.
And I remember he didn't notice for some reason
that there was a monologue, that jean monologue.
And when I saw him at Comic Con, I was like,
do you remember that the last time I saw you,
I feel like you were, I was like, oh, and you got that funny jean
monologue.
He's like, what are you talking about?
And I'm like, you have a monologue right here.
It's interesting that we're rehearsing.
He's like, oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
OK, I got to go remember this.
Which is also not like Chad at all.
Like, he's like a theater actor.
He comes prepared, like sometimes overprepared,
I would argue.
And yeah, he was like, oh, shit.
No, I feel like it's more like us.
Like, whatever department was in charge of sending him
his materials, probably like.
Oh, really?
I don't know.
But either way, it's just like he memorized it right
before we did it.
And it was, it's in the canon now.
I used to have some jean shorts like that, too.
Just slapping them shits, man.
Eventually, I blew the crotch out of them things.
But you can't wear them every day in the speck form
to hold up.
I have some nice ass denim, too.
Missed them shorts.
But you, you got to take them off every now and then.
You got to take them off, son.
And you know what, it was, it was better.
Because sometimes, sometimes like, I remember,
I think, I think Chad, because he didn't do a lot of comedy
before he started working with us.
Like, was a little nervous about it.
And he would like really prepare for it.
You know, we, we, because he was in boldly going
nowhere, which is with David Hornsby with David Hornsby.
And, you know, so it was kind of nice to see him slightly
unprepared because then he was able to just kind of like
follow his comedic instincts, which I think.
But that's an actor's nightmare, right?
When you show up and you're like, oh, you have a monologue.
You don't, you don't know that?
That's a literal going nowhere and always looking for content.
And, and I don't know that other podcasts have done things
like this, but why don't we just put boldly going nowhere out
on the podcast?
And have people watch it?
David's so funny.
It might be on YouTube.
Really?
No, I don't know.
Is it not?
Yeah, yeah.
The biggest problem with, my biggest issue with boldly going
nowhere is the sound.
Because like, we did a sound mix and for some reason the final
sound mix, the, the, the, the score was like, the score was
too low.
Yeah.
It was like, you almost, you almost can't hear the score.
So there's like scenes of like, just dead quiet, like just dead
air.
And we literally added in, because it was a spaceship, we
thought like it sounded too quiet when it was quiet.
So we added like a, like a hum, yeah, sure.
There's like a underneath everything sounds vacuous.
Yeah.
Everything sounds vacuous.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nothing's better for comedy than vacuous.
So I finally got a new mattress in my room.
Oh my God.
You would not believe the rigmarole.
I had to go through to get that thing, but it's really helping
with my, my back problems.
Oh, Tracy.
I miss sleeping next to you.
Right here.
Intergalactic shopping.
Don't you just want to grab each other and just be wild and
just roll around together?
That's three easy payments.
Three easy payments of 2,633.
How are the kids?
Mm-hmm.
Can you hear me?
I feel like you can't hear me.
Yeah.
Kids.
Oh, do you think that picture I sent of me closing with the
blaster?
Let's just look at how.
Hey, where's the money?
I sent the money.
Are you not getting the money?
And it's not enough Lance, the kids need more.
It's not enough.
It's, it's practically everything I'm making up here.
The other dad sent more money.
Well, I'm trying to send as much as I can.
I mean, I need a little money to survive.
Okay.
Well, you're letting the kids down.
So.
Try color.
Where are the kids?
I want to say hi to those little rug rats.
I don't know where they are.
Okay.
Well, but real dad, okay?
Whoa.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Whoa.
What was that?
What was what?
There was a gentleman in a towel that walked by.
That's weird connection.
I do.
I'm probably going behind some kind of a moon.
Moon?
Are we?
Oh, can you not hear me?
Briggs.
Briggs.
Looks like we got to go let that inspector guy on board after all.
So.
Oh, okay.
Babe, we got to go.
Oh, she's gone.
Come on.
Must add a bad connection.
Are we going around a moon?
No.
There's no moons where we are.
Why is she always cutting out?
Listen, right this way, sir.
This is the ship's, uh, temporary holding facility where we house the various perpetrators
we have on board.
What are these people being held for exactly?
Well, you know, leaving clothes laying around for somebody else to trip on, disagreeing
with the captain, being a punk ass bitch, that kind of thing.
All I was doing was just chewing gum.
Yeah.
But you were smacking it and driving everybody crazy, being all loud.
I say we've made a couple of pilots and nobody's ever seen them, and maybe that's good, but
maybe we put them out there and see what the people think.
What?
Who doesn't swing a mitch, miss much?
Fuck.
I just swank.
Swank.
Swank.
I just swung it and then missed it, right in the middle of my sentence.
Fuck it.
Forget it.
I'm just trying to spit it back to David, man.
Let's go.
All right.
Part of the problem here.
Well, I was talking about the only going over because David's so great in that, but if
there's another show he's also great in.
It's always signing in Philadelphia.
Yes.
Mystic quest.
Look, I brought some, I brought some things in case, you know, uh, we got, we got in a
lull.
Oh, you brought a topic.
You brought a, uh, a stack of topics.
Yeah, that's good.
You brought note cards.
I think my job.
Yeah.
We shouldn't have to do this.
Yeah.
You can have it.
Well, just in case, if we hit a lull, I have, you know, it's like, like things that I thought
I might say, like I, that I had prepped for my own like Ted talk, if you ever, you know,
you get an ass.
Would you like to say one?
Um, well, I can if it gets in a lull.
Okay.
Well, then let me, let me try to lull it.
Hang on to those cards.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I kind of feel like we're, we're in a nosedive, but uh.
You know what?
We'll just put a vacuous sound underneath all of that.
We should do that.
I want to take you guys to 1997.
Oh, take me there, baby.
I don't, I don't know.
It's Western Massachusetts.
Yeah.
I've signed up for a summer theater festival.
There's a young man there at that theater festival.
His name is David.
Tiberius.
Close enough.
Hey, what is your male name?
Allen.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Allen.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I just want to change it at one point to Kirk when I was a kid after Kirk Cameron.
And I did.
My mom said, you know, I'm thinking about changing your name because we just kind of named you.
And I'm thinking we should name you after your grandfather.
We just kind of named you.
We just kind of like threw it out.
We didn't put a lot of thought into it.
We were like, we really whiffed on this one.
We whiffed.
And I was like, yeah, like 10 or something.
I don't, you know, somewhere around there.
And I was like, oh, well actually this is perfect because I'm thinking about changing it to
Kirk.
Would that be cool?
And why Kirk?
Like cause he is the coolest.
Kirk Cameron on growing pains.
Yes.
Was the coolest.
Not so much anymore.
Yeah.
But, you know.
He took a little bit of right turn.
Yeah.
Right.
Very right.
Very right turn.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very self-righteous turn.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is what I, I don't want you to confuse that moment for a while.
Let's, let's, let's get back into this.
Okay.
So the year is 1997.
David Hornsby has been cast as has Charlie Day in a loop play called Johnny on the Spot.
Oh yeah.
Who was Johnny?
Neither was Johnny.
Neither was Johnny.
So, you know, at this.
Somebody else got Johnny.
Scott Wolf.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We weren't even in the spot.
Scott Wolf got Johnny.
Yeah.
Scott Wolf was up there that year.
Yeah.
Sure.
Sure.
Sure.
Sure.
But no, this was Christopher Reeves wife was in the play.
Uh huh.
Her name was Diane.
Yeah.
Dana.
Dana.
Dana.
Yeah.
And James.
Jim Naughton.
Yeah.
Jim Naughton.
Yeah.
He was also starring in.
Yes.
I forgot he was directing it.
Yeah.
Uh, and we were, I was like a sign holder or something like come in and be like, uh, you
know, they're really buying signs today or whatever.
Like, like one line.
You were a sign seller.
Yeah.
Something.
Yeah.
Maybe a sign seller.
Yeah.
I don't recall.
Do you remember what your role was?
I, I, were you in that play?
Sure was, pal.
You sure?
It was the sign seller.
You were not, you were not in one of the other plays and it was like.
I was in one of the other plays too, but hey, I was that good.
Yeah.
I was in Johnny on the spot.
You were on Johnny on the spot.
Do you remember when Paul Newman came by?
I do remember when Paul Newman came by.
Okay.
So you were in it.
Okay.
Cause I was during rehearsal.
Paul Newman came by.
Fucking slinging salad dressing.
Yeah.
Paul Newman told Charlie you had the stuff.
He did?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He didn't tell me that.
Wait, wait.
Paul Newman told you that you had the stuff.
That's a whole other thing.
This is not my thing.
This is David's thing.
No.
He was talking to the catering person and they were like, yeah, I got the stuff.
Here's your applesauce, Mr. Newman.
Yeah.
He's like, fuck, I need a beer and he's like, anyone got a beer and he's like, he's got
the stuff.
And you're like, yeah.
Yeah, I got the beer.
He's like, man, here you go, Mr. Newman.
You're going to be great one day.
Yeah.
He goes, thanks.
This is Newman's own now.
And it took off in my sixth grade of beer.
No.
I was in the play, but I had like one line in that play.
Okay.
Okay.
I had more lines in the play that Paul was at the rehearsal.
I don't remember him at the rehearsal.
I remember him at the premiere of the show.
I do remember he said, someone made a joke or something.
He was talking about like, I thought it was really good.
I thought and blah, blah, blah.
He's like, I don't know.
It's all Budweiser up here.
And we were like, yes.
He's funny too.
He's funny too.
He's referencing his functional alcoholism in an amusing way.
I'll be late to that in 30 years.
But I remember, we weren't buddies yet.
You were an admirer.
Yeah.
I was an admirer.
I was like, here's a talented guy.
And I remember picking up your, you had a, you know, we would have these books of compact
discs, and you were probably like getting.
Case logic.
Mm-hmm.
Sure.
No one knows what that is now either.
You're getting psyched up for like the play and all this in your tunes.
Oh yeah.
And I was like, oh cool, let's do this.
Like a boxer before the match.
Yeah.
I'm like, do you mind if I flip through?
And it was like, you know.
She loves me.
Fan of the opera, Les Mis.
Like all of these.
So I was like, oh, not sure.
Colm Wilkinson's solo album.
Yeah.
Liz Calloway's solo album.
And I don't know that we hung out that much that first year.
That probably put you off for a few.
It put me off.
I was.
We are not the same.
Oh, it's like, oh, he's like, what are those guys?
And then the next summer we both auditioned to get in the next sort of level up in the
program.
And we were in a company together where we're spending like the entire summer together doing
sort of like avant-garde theater.
And I found out that you were the funniest man on the planet.
Take a seat.
Ever since then.
That's right.
Yeah.
That was 25 years ago.
Yeah.
She's pretty crazy.
Yeah.
It was a quarter of a century, guys.
Yeah.
So fast forward, fast forward through that quarter of a century to the point where we're making
the pilot of Always Sunny.
And I was like.
I want to back up a second.
I want to tell you about the time I met David.
No game.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Sure.
No.
Do you remember the first time you met David?
Because I had a similar experience to meeting David as Mary Elizabeth did because, and
you, which is at first, you're like, I don't know about this guy.
I don't remember Mary Elizabeth's, I don't remember the last stories, but okay.
No, her point of view is if she didn't know if she liked you at first and I was the same
because you seemed very persnickety.
I'm not.
Obviously.
Exceptionally fussy.
Oh no.
Exceptionally fussy.
You're just a little.
Your hands a little close.
Yeah.
The day I met David, you remember this, David, was at a taping of a little show called the
Louis Guzman show.
It was called Louis.
And you guys met that day.
My friend, Charlie.
Yes.
My friend, Charlie, was in this pilot.
It was on the Fox lot.
I'd never seen a television show shot before.
I thought this would be cool.
You didn't come to that Eddie show?
I was never invited.
I don't think we were friends yet.
We weren't friends yet.
No.
Okay.
No.
But I think you had a similar experience to me where you were like, I don't, I don't
know if I'm friends with, I want to be friends with that guy.
With David?
No, with me.
Oh, with you?
Oh yeah.
Definitely.
Definitely.
No, you were.
I worry down.
So David, so David, I meet, oh, you're also friends with Charlie?
Oh, great.
This is really cool.
We're at this, this, the taping of the show where they try to keep you excited in a very
air conditioned.
Live audience.
Everybody's laughing.
Live audience.
And in between those who don't know, in between takes or in between scenes to get the crowd
excited, they have a warm up, warm up comic.
And the comic is there to just to jazz people up and get them laughing.
Keep the energy going.
Yeah.
Above that crowd.
Exactly.
And so the guy was doing a pretty good job.
Everybody's excited.
It's going to be a big fun show and they say, okay, great, now we're just going to wait
for a few minutes and get everything set up.
And David says, great.
And he takes out a little book that he has.
Big book.
Big book.
Yeah.
Big book.
I believe it was the SNL book.
Was it not?
Yeah.
They just come up.
Okay.
Yeah.
Fantastic book.
David starts reading the book.
Now.
He's sitting.
Are you sitting next to him?
I'm sitting next to him.
No, remember?
Yeah.
Near him.
Next to him.
Because I remember the guy, David just starts reading.
But he had an option to strike up a conversation with his, you know, mutual friend of Charlie
Day.
That wasn't the weird...
Or read Nicholas Nickely.
Yeah.
That wasn't the weirdest part.
The weirdest part was just being out in public as a participant in an audience and
just popping out the book and reading.
It was downtime, right?
Just to be clear.
We were sort of between setups and he was kind of talking to the audience.
Who wants candy?
Sure.
You know, who wants to perform for candy?
Yeah.
That kind of thing.
Yeah, there's downtime.
Treats us like animals.
Now, this stand-up comic is like, hey, man, can you put the fucking book away?
It comes up to him.
Is it like, can you put the book away?
By the way, how many people are in this audience?
I mean...
A hundred?
A hundred.
It's a rather large audience, right?
Yeah.
But he singled you out because his whole job is to keep the audience focused.
And I remember the guy saying, I'm going to get fired.
Like I'm going to get chewed out because my whole job is to get you to focus on what's
happening there and not what's happening in the book.
Why are you here?
I can't go back to the Laugh Hut.
We're here.
I can't go back.
I got to stay a gig here, man.
They bring me in every Friday.
And I remember David now, in that situation, I don't know.
I was like, oh shit, like he's getting dressed down.
And I remember David's response was, no.
Yeah.
Whoa.
Nice.
I should have seen it, man.
Well, then the guy was like, dude, just fucking put the book away.
And the more he got, like, aggressive with David, the more David was like, I'm not putting
my book away.
I'm going to read the book.
But he said, who's your friend?
I said, he said, what are you doing here?
I'm like, well, my friend's in the show.
I'm here to see him.
He's like, who's your friend?
What's his name?
I'm like, I'm not telling you.
Yeah, I'm not telling you.
I don't have to tell you anything.
I'm like, I'm sitting there watching this.
I'm like, I love this guy.
Now I'm like, now I know I want to see him.
I put my readers back on, open my book up, thank you very much, sir.
Yeah.
And to be to David's credit, it is like a four hour long.
It is an endeavor.
What a nightmare.
It's an endeavor.
No, you were the first person that was like, I think acting on, well, I don't know at
that point, but it was like, oh, this is exciting.
One of our friends is on a show.
Like, let's go see it.
Yeah.
In front of a live studio audience.
Yeah.
You celebrated by reading a book in the middle of it.
However, I still don't think that's weird.
I'm like, OK, so you want to read a book in some downtime?
I still find it bizarre.
And to me, I'd stand up and defend that.
But sorry, if you go out to dinner with somebody, will you bring a book just in case of conversation?
No.
But I'm not sitting in a hundred seat.
When a person goes to the bathroom, you bust your book out.
Is it any different than looking at your phone and like scrolling and reading something?
No, it's not.
It's actually better.
Anyway, I was definitely interested in becoming friends with David, although he kept me at
Armsland for a while.
Yeah.
You know, when I meet someone, I'm like, oh, he's a jerk.
Yeah.
You know, that's the first, you know.
But was that because that's kind of your initial feeling about anybody or like, I got to figure
out who this person is?
Yeah.
What I want from me.
Yeah.
They want something from me.
They want to emotionally connect with me.
And I'm not into that.
And I'm not into that.
I don't need that.
I don't need that.
I got enough.
I need to keep him.
Yeah.
I'm like, hey, I'm Robin.
I'm like, I got enough going on.
What?
That's the first thing out of your mouth.
Yeah.
Oh, OK, man.
No, I totally remember that.
And and it's, yeah, I don't think it's that bizarre, but but it definitely is.
It's definitely a sign of character, certainly fewer to write a character.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
Yeah.
It tells you a lot about.
How can we tell someone?
How do you tell the audience about this character without exposition?
And so that was 20 years ago.
And I think I think the lesson we're learning here is that people don't change.
No, absolutely not.
Oh, no.
We're all so we're all exactly the same.
We grow, we learn, we become more wise, but we're pretty much the same people we've always
been.
I don't remember.
I think my first, the first time I ever saw David Hornsby, I'd heard about David Hornsby
was when we were shooting our Haley Joel Osmond, Frankie Muniz documentary, mockumentary.
And you and Jimmy Simpson played a married couple.
Yeah.
And I remember.
Haley's parents.
Well, sorry.
Haley's parents.
Yeah, yeah.
I distinctly remember, I wasn't even there when you guys shot, for some reason I wasn't
there when you shot.
We shot separately.
I met you at that point.
We hadn't met yet.
Yeah.
So the first time I ever saw you in my life was when you guys were showing me the footage
of what you'd shot with David and Jimmy.
First of all, right off the bat, I was like, amazing and super funny that instead of having
a man and a woman, it's just two men and one man is playing a woman.
And then I.
Wait, who played the woman?
Was it Jimmy?
Jimmy played the woman.
I distinctly remember you eating a glazed donut and drinking a Budweiser and thinking
that's a really funny choice in and of itself, like.
The combination of sugar and alcohol must have driven you crazy.
Yeah.
I was laughing.
Me?
I was laughing every time.
You take a bite.
I have that.
That's why I thought it was so funny.
And I do remember thinking like this man is, both these men are extra, and I knew Jimmy
at that point, but I was like, this guy is also really, really, really funny.
And then I think we probably met, honestly, the first time we shot something together.
I feel like I remember meeting you at like a bowling alley.
Like we went bowling.
Remember bowling?
We used to go bowling for fun and social lives.
Yeah.
Stick in your fingers and a random ball, you know, that everybody else.
Thousands of people.
Yeah.
But then to and then eaten fries, you know, and not care in the world.
No, it didn't matter.
And guess what?
We're all still here.
We're all fine.
Yeah.
I met David at my interview for Sunny.
Yes.
David conducted my interview for Sunny.
Myself and Scott Marder.
Yeah.
That's right.
Yeah.
David and Scott interviewed me and I had to pitch a storyline to him.
And I was very nervous because I had watched David on Sunny for a long time, but he was
very nice.
It was a warm room.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It wasn't too intimidating.
They were very nice.
I mean, they weren't like overly generous, but I, that would make me more nervous if
I was like, oh, they think I need their laughs.
And then he must have given me a good review because then I ended up meeting all you guys.
I ran into Rob's office.
I found her.
I found her.
Do you have the shoe?
Come see how we put it on her and see if it fits.
Get the shoe.
Where is it?
Where is it?
I'm wearing it.
Why are you wearing it?
I don't know.
I don't know.
It felt good.
It felt comforting.
I need to re-exam something in myself.
I won't take it off.
She can go find her own shoe, that hag.
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Now, Meg, were we planning on watching some of David's highlights?
Yeah, I've made a super cut of some of Cricket's best moments so we can watch the de-evolution
of Cricket over the years.
It happens fast.
It does.
And so the curve goes.
I'm going to get that loaded up.
It says steam.
I'm normal too.
Cartoon.
Insane.
Not real.
I do remember noting how incredibly grounded your performances in the very first episode
that you're in, in the miracle episode.
I feel like that's when you're like, for me, that's when your young actor, I mean, I'm
not saying it's better or worse, but I'm saying as a young actor, you're like, all right,
I'm not going to bring any kind of angle to this.
When you go to acting school and you're like, I'm going to perform this as sincerely as
possible.
And then as you find and as you keep going, you're like, oh, I got to kind of bring something
to this a bit more.
But I feel like acting school, you're like, no, do it as neutral as possible.
I was probably in that mindset as well.
I was always afraid of being too big.
Right, exactly.
I was always my biggest fear, like don't be broad.
And then I would see other people do stuff that was big but wasn't broad.
And I was like, how do you do that?
How do you do something that's really intense and big and boisterous or whatever and have
it not feel broad?
You put a pancake on your face.
What's on the page though, right?
You couldn't do that first episode of Matthew Mara big and broad.
No, he's straight man.
He's a grounded kind of guy who takes his religion seriously.
If you're a guest star on Sunday, you're probably the straight man.
Yeah, usually.
Yeah.
All right.
Here we go.
Here he is.
Oh, wow.
It's you.
Matthew Mara.
2006.
We were in physical therapy together twice a week after school.
We looked the same.
You look exactly.
That's very upsetting.
Really?
I wore the giant leg braces.
Oh my God.
Yeah, with the leg braces.
We used to call you in high school, Rickety Cricket, dude.
That's right.
Rickety Cricket.
Oh my God.
I remember this was just a box in like a warehouse stage or something.
And it's like, I don't even know what part of the stage it was.
This was in, what was the name of the Hearst Building or something?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Was that downtown?
The Herald Examiner.
Yeah.
This is one of my favorite scenes with you, David, because it gives you just like a little
prop business with the door open, which is so good at like just utilizing just so well
the timing of.
I do like the way you say.
Any business.
You love a good prop.
One of David's great talents is miming, you know, so like when you're a writer's room
with David, he will pretend to like eat a sandwich or something in a very detailed and
hilarious way.
I had a runner where we do the food bit where it evolved from like eating a sandwich, but
then it became like eating something and people would try to guess what it was, but
doing it very weird.
Yes.
Like if I had, like I would go like.
And you're like, what are you doing?
I'm eating corn on the cob.
Yeah.
I'm eating corn on the cob.
Yeah.
Finding weird ways to do it where you're just twisting.
I would have thought that move was an apple.
You really kind of seem to scrape your teeth.
Yeah.
You're scraping it down.
Yeah.
You're scraping off the, he's scraping the corn off the cob.
Yeah.
I got that.
I got that.
I got that.
Yeah.
The listeners at home are loving a good miming bit.
Yeah.
I want you to know something.
I love you.
Water.
What?
Open the door.
Matty, open the door.
I love you.
I know that.
Say Seven Hill Mary.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I love you.
I love timing.
There's some door baits.
It's so cruel too because I think she out context you forget that she's too funny.
Some doorbates, there's some doorbates.
It's so cruel too, because without context,
you forget that she's just, right?
Wasn't she like trying to win a bet or something?
No, no.
I think she actually feels the things, right?
Well, she feels it right, and then she has it,
and she doesn't feel it anymore.
Yeah, exactly.
Once she gets it, she's like, oh, uh-oh.
No, I don't actually want it.
I just wanted you to want it.
What are you doing here?
I thought about what you said, and I think you were right.
In some weird way, this was God's plan for us.
I mean, I had to become a priest to reconnect with you,
and I had to leave the priesthood to have you.
Huh?
Mr. Reynolds, I'd like to ask for your daughter's hand
in marriage.
Done.
So that's the thing about dating, is you can act
as much as you want in a scene with him,
and then he says one word in this entire scene.
It's just done.
So good.
Done.
Well, I can.
I think this is the day I met him for the first time.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I think I was like-
Do you remember what that was like?
It was very quick.
It was like shaking his hand sort of,
and then I'm in a scene with him all of a sudden,
and then he says something like that,
and you're like, oh my God, this is, that's amazing.
Yeah, yeah.
Done.
Done.
It's a good for you.
The timing.
Did you just say that you left the priesthood?
Yes, I had to.
Maddie, wow, you should not have done that.
What do you mean?
You gotta, you should go and undo that right now.
You don't love me?
Oh, Maddie.
Oh, God.
I think you are a great guy.
A cool guy.
Why don't you go back to the priesthood?
I can't, okay?
I can't.
You can't just go back, Dee.
Yeah, I want to become a priest again.
You can't, okay?
But are you sure?
Did you double check that?
My life is ruined.
That was season two.
So you were already a writer then.
So were you like involved in coming up with like,
what Cricket's character was going to be?
Or did you come in as an actor and then join as a writer?
Or like, what was it?
He wasn't, he wasn't, we didn't have a staff
and he wasn't like on the staff.
You, we just,
Second season.
No, I wrote us episode second season.
Cricket came about because,
well, I helped out on the, you know,
the pilot stuff, the shooting early on.
But then I remember Charlie was like,
hey, we have, like, do you want to be on the show?
We can, we have like this guest spot you could do
season one here.
I think we're at your house,
like at a party or something.
And like, or do you want to,
it's not like that big.
Do you want to wait for something bigger?
And I was like, yeah, I'll wait for something bigger.
So he offered me something,
but then I don't know what it was,
but and then you came back and you're like,
we have something for you.
And you guys had come up with it completely.
You know, we're going to call you Rickety Cricket.
Yeah.
Braces.
I wonder what the first thing was that,
I don't know.
Yeah.
The first thing that was probably just some straight man
guest, guest star thing that was like,
do you want to be the guy at the bank kind of idea?
Yeah, totally.
Oh, the first thing.
The second season.
So at the same time I had sold a show and you got,
and at this, it's like at the same time we'd both.
The other mall.
Yeah.
We had both worked on stuff separately.
Like I had helped out with your thing,
but I had sold my own thing.
And then you guys were like, guess what?
We sold, you know, Sonny to FX.
And I was like, oh, that's awesome.
I guess what?
I just sold this pilot to Fox.
And you guys were like, oh, Fox, that's way better.
That's like, that's real TV.
That's real TV.
Yeah, that's the major leagues.
Yeah, about that.
It turned.
Yeah, no, it worked out.
It worked out.
We're not on the other mall.
It's all Fox.
We're not on the other mall podcast, you know what I mean?
Guess what?
I ain't one at all, fuckers.
Going back to the Louis Guzman multi-cam that I did,
you also did one called the Mullets.
Yeah.
Yes, my name, we wore Mullets and we had Mullets
and our last name was Mullets.
Was that after the Louis Guzman show?
Sure, sure.
Yeah, you wore Mullets in your last name, wasn't it?
Yeah.
Was it before or after the Guzman show?
See, that's why when I said that, I was thinking,
well, maybe I'd have done it before.
It was about all around the same time.
Well, obviously the second episode we filmed
for the pilot stuff before it was a show,
for Sonny was a show, I was like,
the joke was I was the famous friend
because I had been on the Mullets.
Because he's been on six feet under.
Oh, really?
Yeah, we were stoked to get you
because you did three episodes of Six Feet Under.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Didn't you do three?
Am I making that up?
I did, I can't even remember how many a couple of.
It was an arc, yeah, it was an arc.
Yeah, it was an arc.
Yeah, it was an arc.
Yeah, yeah.
Actually, can we just talk about those early days
a little bit like the fact that
when we, the very first version of the home movie,
Rob didn't want to be in it,
he wanted to just write and direct.
And so you played the character Rob.
Like, do you remember,
or is there anything you remember from those early days?
I remember, yeah, well, I remember he didn't want to be in it
and asked me to do it.
But I, and I remember filming it
and being feeling like I didn't quite get exactly
sometimes what you guys were going for.
You know, like it was very much your sense of humor.
And obviously you should have been playing the part.
Like, but I do remember we went to a nail salon
and we told, you guys set it up.
We're like, all right, we're gonna go to this nail salon.
And we told them we're like filming it
for your birthday or something.
Yeah, we said it's our buddy's birthday.
We're just doing a whole day
where we're treating him to all these different things
and we're filming it all.
And, you know, we want to have him get his nails done,
his tone, he wanted to get him a mani-patti for his birthday
and we're gonna film it.
And they were like, fine, you know.
Yeah, we're just trying to,
if we needed a location, that was always the,
you know, you had to hustle
and either you're either paying someone
and be like, hey, can we film here
and like we'll pay some money or you lie to them.
Or do that kind of shit that you want to do.
Like people coming in with a boom and stuff.
Yeah, like they don't mind if we film
and it's like four other people.
Yeah, that's very hip to it, you know.
Well, and then, you know,
there's people giving you mani-patti
and, you know, we're doing the same shot over and over.
And you're saying the same line.
I'm answering the phone.
You're answering the phone.
And I say, go for Jesus.
But I feel so uncomfortable in the situation.
It's almost like you never,
sometimes you just didn't quite get it.
You're like, because I just, hey, go for Jesus.
Like, you know, I'm like looking at the camera.
No, but I do remember the scene in the coffee shop
where you are, no, you have cancer
and Rob is copying you to study you.
And not quite getting the right like comedic quality of it.
And then the second time you guys were gonna shoot it
because you persevered, you know,
you got some nose in regards to like it didn't look good.
You guys shot it again.
You wanted to do it again.
Rob called me up and I couldn't do it at the time.
And I was like, why don't you play it anyway?
And so I remember when I saw that same scene,
you guys reshot it.
I was like, oh, that's right.
I get it now, you know.
So I kind of remember it being like,
I also remember wearing a sock on my penis.
Yeah.
There was that.
There was nudity.
There was nudity in the end.
Oh, nudity.
There was nudity.
I confront you in the kitchen.
You come out of the bathroom
and I'm trying to get you to examine my foot.
Yeah.
Or was that only, did we?
Yeah, cause I've got like, I'm worried that there's some kind
of a fuss.
Kind of redoing it, but you stayed in your underwear?
Or no, we just cut that scene.
Yeah.
We put you in a tidy,
tidy, wide kind of situation and, yeah.
Yeah.
The career always starts with a sock over the penis.
Oh, that was,
but it really starts when the sock comes off the penis.
No, but that was where did you get your shot came from?
Yeah.
That's right.
Did you get your shot?
Mr. Purdue did you get it?
Yeah.
Did you get everything I needed?
That's our running bit about, yeah.
David came out like, it was just the three of us
in an apartment.
And I was like, David, I mean, it says in the script
that you're naked.
So I guess you had to get naked.
Again, maybe this is, it's a bunch of dudes
and we're friends.
It was not an abusive situation, but,
No.
But then he was like, well, how am I going to show my ass?
Like when I turn around, you're going to see my dick.
And I was like, I'll shoot above it.
And he's like, I don't trust you.
And I was like, I wouldn't either.
So I wouldn't either.
I wouldn't either.
That's smart.
So he puts a sock on and then we shot it.
And I stayed above it because he wants to see a sock.
And then afterwards, he put on a robe.
And we were like, all right, you good?
And he just turned to us and goes, did you get your shot?
My soup and dick shot.
I hope you're happy.
Get your shot.
I have my free soup now.
I remember at six feet under, they gave me a robe
because I was supposed to be making out with Michael Seahall
in the bed.
And someone came in before, after rehearsal, and they're like,
here's your robe.
And I'm like, thanks.
Oh, do I get naked?
What is this?
I don't know what's happening.
You know, no one broke it down for me.
And so I'm like, all right, we're in the house in the valley.
And I go into this bathroom and I change into the robe.
And I'm like, do I do underwear?
Do I?
And I get into the robe and I come out.
And there's no one there yet.
And I'm in a very fine, thin robe,
just feeling like in the real life, very, very thin robe.
And there's no one to joke about that you get your shot,
just more like a cold, harsh reality of like, what am I doing?
And I was like, you know what?
I'm going to go back in.
I'm going to wait till someone says get the robe on
and change back.
And never had to wear the robe.
Just took off the shirt.
But those moments, you know, those before, what do you call it?
The intimacy coordinator, which is great.
Because it is amazing how often any kind of sex scene
was treated or nudity was treated like you would
when you're a 14-year-old boy.
Everybody's like afraid to talk about it.
Everybody's a giggling.
Even if it's a close set, there's no conversation happening.
And like, even somebody like David
is intimidated about what he's supposed to do.
Imagine like a younger person who's on set.
And it's like, I'm just happy to see him.
Well, he was a younger person.
That was what?
I mean, what year was that?
20 something.
You were probably in your early, mid-20s, right?
Yeah.
Here you go, doll.
Doll.
Put it on, gorgeous.
Put this on, gorgeous.
Do you guys remember we had an intimacy coordinator
on Mr. Quest, because we did an episode with some sex
dreams.
And they asked, because there's one with your two
characters having a sex dream.
And they asked if you guys wanted an intimacy coordinator.
And you were like, no, we're good.
That'll just make it weird.
Have we all done the cock sock on Sunny?
I've definitely done it.
I've definitely done it, too, for this key episode.
Yeah, we've all.
For which one?
The one with the ski slope.
Oh, right.
That's right, yeah.
What did you do?
It's like the 80s movie sex scene thing.
And so it's just one, two, three, two, three, two.
It gets along with the sex.
Does Danny do a sock for it when he does so?
Danny definitely has had the sock on.
When he comes out of the couch, did he have the sock on?
And also leave the weapon.
Oh, and quarantine when he's like, oh no, he had underwear on.
We used to get Danny naked a lot.
Hey, I got an idea.
Should we look at your very last clip of David,
just to see the full thing and then go back?
Yeah, just to see what?
That's a good idea.
How different is it?
That's a good idea, actually.
Yeah, I like that.
Five, four, three, two, one.
All right.
That's right.
That's good.
It's like there's no real hair or face left.
It's just everything's floating.
To go from the breeze to this guy with the milky eyes.
Where do we land on the cassava?
I think you can eat it, man.
I think we're done with it.
Yeah, we're done.
Yeah, baby.
Yeah, I wouldn't eat it, Cricks.
It's full of loads.
We knew it.
We knew it.
I was not in the same scene with Danny, by the way, there.
That was shot separately.
Oh, yeah.
How come?
Did a good job of marrying that.
I think you were actually.
I was unavailable.
You were on a fail.
Conflict.
Yeah, you big-timed us.
You big-timed Danny DeVito.
It feels good to big-time a guy like Danny DeVito, doesn't it?
Yeah, maybe playing the lowest to low.
But every now and then, I get one in.
You know, get a shot in.
Allow me to introduce Patty from Space.
Amazing.
Everybody in England knows everybody loves a gay
that will rip in all the gays.
Work it.
Hey.
Oh.
Going for it.
I had to vamp, because there was so much space on myself.
In the moment, I can't just jump out and do a reveal.
Like, he's a good 15 feet ahead of me, so I really got to.
Yeah, yeah.
What the hell, Frank?
Where's Mac?
Mac's out.
Why?
Well, I think he's going back in the closet.
God damn it.
You had one job.
Get the gay man to dance on the gay float.
It's not that hard.
We got a problem.
We got a problem.
Dennis wasn't wanting to drive.
Now he's thinking he's claustrophobic.
What is Cricket doing here?
Because Frank blew it.
Oh, come on, man.
You had one job.
That's what I said.
Cricket's going to do the dance.
Dance, Cricket.
Oh, no, no, no.
He's like, oh, god, no.
Come on, man.
He looks like a monster. This one I fasted for a little bit or I did the.
Are you trying to lose a little weight?
Because I'm like, I got to be in my leathers.
You know, okay.
You got to be on the leathers.
You got to look good in your leathers.
You got to look good in your leathers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh my god.
And thank god you had that outfit at home because like we would have been screwed.
Like we didn't we didn't have it.
And so I got it.
I have something that might work.
And then I was in the trunk of my Honda.
I just stopped by Rough Trade.
Lady, I'm not going anywhere until I see an Abraham Lincoln.
What is this?
73 cents.
No, I said Abraham Lincoln.
There's a bunch of Lincoln's in there.
Those are pennies.
Okay.
You want to give it back to me?
Well, no, hold on.
I love that you you fasted for this even though then you put lesions on your body.
Like you're like, I want to look good, but then they're like so open.
Yeah, I want to be true to the character.
You know, I wouldn't I wouldn't be, you know, wouldn't have extra.
I would have that extra.
Oh, Cricket's going to do the dance dance.
Oh, God, no, he looks like.
Why don't we play one from this season from what was last very last season?
Oh, I don't think we have a room.
I don't think you know, you know what?
That's right.
I wasn't in it.
Oh, you're trying to bring that. This is an intervention.
And it was a really good season this year.
Yeah, that's right.
You know, one of our best in years kind of put it back on the rails in a way.
Right, right, right.
I'm starting to see you maybe budget wise, because you didn't have to do the makeup,
but otherwise ringworm makeup to do this.
Here we go.
Yeah, PTSD.
Correct.
Yeah.
So with the burned face, if you remember, we burned the face and then we talked about
the face being a little too grotesque.
I want I wanted it to be full, like half a face of Freddy Krueger, like Freddy Krueger,
half face.
And and I was like, and I didn't see a problem with it.
You guys were like, it's really disturbing to look at.
And I'm like, yeah, it's fucking amazing.
I mean, yeah, I was one of those things we could not agree on,
but you guys were on the same page.
I wanted it to be as grotesque as possible.
I can't remember that.
Yes, we softened it a bit with the with the notion that, well, it probably healed over
a little bit over time.
Yeah, sure, it healed some are we ready to party tonight?
No, I'm not going to see some skin tonight.
Yeah, it's going to be a scar from a stolen organ.
I got a good story behind that.
This is they took out the kidney, actually.
That was the first time that I really thought, hey, I might actually I might die and no one's
going to remember.
All right.
All right.
That's the show.
It's called Dark Blue Marvel.
We call it. All right.
Anyway, it seems like the type of thing that they just wouldn't even script for you.
They just be like, yeah, just like start telling sad stories.
No, I think we just made it up.
I remember Robin, like, you know, and he'll be he'll turn right now.
He'll just show his what is what he what passes for him for an ass.
And it's like insulting my body for everyone.
It's fine. It's all part of the show.
You got to fake it.
Like, trust me, no one will even know me on the streets.
You got to fake, you know what I mean?
If you're orgasming, you fake it, you know, the guys that don't fake.
What do you mean, you'll fake it?
You don't you don't know you're alive.
Don't worry about it.
I can sell anything, you know?
You know how many times I fake on the streets?
The orgasms, the hoes, you know?
You have to fake the guys that don't fake.
They're the ones that get it the worst.
Those are the guys that don't survive.
So I fake.
You fake. Are you telling me?
Are you telling me?
You fake orgasm like in the street.
When people rape you, you fake an orgasm.
So that the rape lasts a shorter amount of time to yourself.
Well, sometimes you don't fake it.
Well, sometimes, well, sometimes you don't fake it because it's so good.
Well, sometimes you don't fake it and it just ends naturally.
OK.
It's like anything we can do to have you not talk about like sucking
the penises or getting raped in the body.
It just keeps popping up.
I honestly don't know which part was scripted,
where we started breaking off from it pretty early on.
I don't think any of this stuff about faking it.
Yeah, I think the faking thing.
And then we all saw an opportunity there.
Just kind of kept going, yeah, I built.
A whisper conversation is always funnier than a full volume conversation.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that was that was a funny day on set
because that we found that riff and we just could not keep a straight face.
That scene and then maybe the lemon scene we were breaking up about.
Oh, sure. The podcast scene.
Oh, we could not keep it together with you doing that, sucking on the lemon.
I mean, yeah, maybe we should just be watching the bloopers from David
because he made you guys laugh so much.
Here we go. This is the actual scene.
Yeah, I love the scene.
I love the scene for you guys, really.
The three wars.
Two to two.
There's going to be something surreal
about doing a podcast while watching the scene.
What was the premise of the podcast
that you guys could just be as interesting as on the radio?
Well, I think I think at the time, I think we were, like,
probably thinking that podcasts were kind of stupid.
You know, it was basically like the average person
thinking that they can do what people do on the radio and be just as entertaining
and being like, and you don't even have to resort to all that dumb shit,
all the stupid sound effects and all that kind of shit.
Like we just need to have an interesting conversation.
We'll be 10 times more interesting than those personalities on the radio,
which is what we're doing now.
OK, all right.
Well, listen, let's get into the issues here.
We're going to start rolling on this.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
I am not saying another word until I get the chicken.
I lied about the chicken, Rick.
Oh, my God, unbelievable.
Why do I even trust you?
I do have something for you.
Lemons. Lemons.
Yeah, you suck on them.
No, I'm not giving them crackers.
No, suck on them.
He's got crackers you want to give him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So this is the first lemon scene that we've ever we've introduced.
Lemons, yes.
That is the D Reynolds here.
We are talking about the homeless issue here in Philly.
That's a big issue these days.
And we're here without Frank Cricket.
He is a homeless man. Cricket, walk us through a day in your life.
Oh, day in the life.
Well, the other morning I wake up.
I find a dog sniffing at my wound.
He's full of rouse by you.
I hear your reaction. The reactions of everyone.
He's looking at me right in the eyes.
He does not have to say it.
Not that he could.
I mean, does my scar look like a dog vagina?
Let me see it. Turn it over the quit.
Yeah, I mean, maybe it does.
Maybe it doesn't. I don't know.
I'm not going to sit here and try to get inside the head of a dog.
You know, that's not my job. That's God's who doesn't exist, by the way.
Maybe it does. Maybe it doesn't.
I don't know. I'm not going to sit here and try to get inside the head of a dog.
You just lay there and you let this dog do his business.
This guy could be feral.
You know what I mean? They had that on the street.
This is a great David.
This is the gang cracks the Liberty Bell.
Did you write this episode, too?
Yes, you did write this. Yeah, I wrote it.
I was trying to remember if I wrote it with like martyrs and Roselle.
But no, yeah, I wrote it.
And did you write them spitting in your face into the script?
Yes, I think I remember coming up with that.
Me like, she could spit in my face because D spitting in my face.
First thing in your face, too, because he does it and then it became a runner.
Yeah. And I'm like, it's one of those weird things where you like, you know,
it's best, but like she won't be spitting in my face if I do this.
If I type this and they're going to love it.
They're going to love that.
There's no way they're not like everyone spits in my face.
That's going to. So it's definitely going in.
All right. But yeah, when you're on the day and it's just take the floor,
let's do it again.
Oh, OK.
OK, my face right now.
Oh, OK, OK, OK.
That one was in my eye.
I'm really sorry.
That was huge. Yeah, that's.
That's fucking great. Yeah.
And then we blew your head.
Yeah. Yes, we did.
Explodes in that one. Yeah, I don't know.
Have you guys all gotten cast of your heads?
Yes. Yes.
It's a very claustrophobic experience.
I'm wondering if I would ever do it again.
But I don't really do it anymore.
It's a laser scan, though. Yeah.
I liked it. I weirdly liked it.
I had to get a cast in my head for The Strangers,
because I got half my face blown off in that movie.
It appeals to your quicksand fantasies.
Oh, yeah. Do you want to be smothered?
Is that what we're feeling and we're hearing?
Smother me. Smother. Smother.
No, I don't. I like.
It's like, have you ever had an MRI?
Is it MRI where you have to go in the thing
and it beeps and bloops at you and you're like in the thing
and they're like, OK, just you're going to be in there for a little while.
And I've had I've had it done twice.
And I loved it both times.
I loved it. I loved being in like a little small space.
It's a weird dip. Yeah, I find it a little comforting.
I find it comforting.
It gets hard and then it gets really hot, right?
Yeah. And they just put like straws.
And they put straws. What are they called, straws?
You really, someone maybe holds your hand, you know,
or something like, hey, it's OK.
Just you didn't have the handholding thing.
No one was holding my hand.
Is that your wife that provided that service
or just a random nurse?
This is just like a random prop guy.
This is some special effects acts. Hey, buddy.
Don't worry.
Are you sure it was his hand?
No, no, she was like, don't worry.
His hand did feel like a cock.
This is.
This is a weird shit hand.
I'm sorry, this is a weird hand.
That is, that is a hard hand.
That is extremely hard hand.
That is a hard, thin hand.
He's spitting on his hand.
Is this a real prop house?
Yeah, David never showed up here.
I went in the wrong door.
He just poured clay on your face and then had you jack him off.
Hey, guys, my name is David. I'm an actor.
I'm a SAG, obviously.
I feel like a live of sex dolls and it's just your face, like.
The live cast?
Oh, yeah, you guys are going to pour stuff on my face and.
Yeah, you're going to do something up my head.
Oh, yeah.
We sure are, buddy.
Come on in.
There you are. What are you doing?
What news? What news?
From a musical offering to musical, you guys.
It's about life on the streets.
Archangel has to live on the streets and fight crime.
That's great. Where are our drugs?
Archangel.
I sold the drugs.
Give us the money.
Spent the money on these sweet ass kettle drums.
Look at these.
Those are trash cans.
Trash cans.
Oh, these are trash cans.
The ones that sound like this.
Drug money on two garbage cans?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
As if cocaine is like a hallucinogen or something.
Yeah, there is some left.
You guys are yelling like crazy.
I can't compute.
Oh, don't do all of it though.
You guys still got to write the seventh act.
It's kind of all up here.
Cricket, come on back to the mall.
I know.
I'm not going anywhere without these kettle drums.
All right, bring the trash cans.
Yeah, don't forget the trash cans.
I'm bringing the trash cans.
Watch this.
I want the Kirk addicts though.
They will cut you.
That's a pop.
That's a pop.
That's a pop.
Oh, this.
This is, I mean, this is some of your most iconic stuff.
Yeah, this is what gets commented on a lot.
I'm going out.
I'm going guns blazed.
I'm going to get higher and higher.
Was that written?
Did you make that pop?
That was Rob Rozel.
No, Rob Rozel, like I always think was doing that bit in the room.
Did I get higher and higher?
Yeah, did they write this episode?
Rozel and Margaret.
Yeah, they were a big part of the writers.
Yeah, so that was definitely fed to me by Rob Rozel and is hilarious.
But you got to make it sexy, I think, is one of the most like enduring.
Got to make it sexy.
Yeah.
Nips.
I feel like the specificity of a rotisserie chicken felt Rozel.
Yes.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Or martyr, you know, but like those two guys.
They're getting crooked.
Hey.
Looking good, bro.
Thanks, man.
I'm almost done.
You guys, you got to make it sexy.
Hips and nips.
Otherwise, I'm not eating.
There it is.
Big pink nips.
Big pink nips.
So talk about those nips for a second.
Yeah.
Have you ever tried to figure out what size coin fits on your neck?
No, I haven't.
No?
Have you not?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Is that a thing?
No, it's not a thing.
It's a smaller size.
So you dime size?
Dime nips.
Dime nips.
I was surprised by that.
No, I joke about it because like Jill used to say, like, you've got dime nips, like
she would always say that.
And so one day we took a dime and I was like, let's just see if a dime is it.
And it was exactly.
Daddy, are we leaving for, what is it?
Daddy's measuring his nips with a coin, honey.
I'll be right there.
Just give us a sec.
I'm going to do one right now.
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The Hulk looked like he was, like he was doping, right?
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Well, there are so many cricket scenes that we could watch and we have watched a few,
but I also have some fan questions to ask you.
Oh, I'm a little curious about David's note cards.
So I don't want to just blow it right by.
Okay.
Yeah.
Let's do fan questions first.
Yeah.
Let's do a little bit of both.
Wow.
Those cars, man.
I'm just curious.
It was just topics.
What do you got?
If I was going to, if every day is a gift, then open up your present and enjoy.
Well, what's your question?
No, these are, these were like points I was going to make.
Oh, great.
Great, great, great.
Oh, okay.
What's next?
Yeah.
I wasn't listening.
What was it?
That was good.
Create the Netflix algorithm for life.
What do you want to see on your homepage?
Yeah.
Good.
That's good.
I like that, man.
This is good stuff.
This is great.
This is just because people tune in to hear, you know, reflect on like, yeah.
Wisdoms.
Wisdoms.
This is a learning podcast.
Stop parenting your kids and start kidding your parents.
I just feel like sometimes they just rearrange things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's about, I mean, there's more, but you want.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't enjoy them.
I like these.
I like these a lot.
A bear market in your love life is a bull market in self reflection.
I can't, I can't sort that one.
It's time to look at yourself.
Yeah.
Got it.
Yeah.
I don't know enough about the market.
Yeah, I don't know.
Or to fill one.
What are some fan questions?
Fan questions.
Yeah.
Fan questions.
Let's go.
Fan questions.
Did you get a lot of similar ones?
Well, there's not a lot of fans.
Yeah.
I'm asking.
Yeah.
We got a lot.
From the three of them.
Yeah.
And I averaged them out into some of these questions.
Then I picked my favorite.
What's been your favorite or most bizarre fan interaction working on Sunny?
Maybe the time someone showed me their tattoo of me on their ankle was just, I'm sure you
guys have had some interaction where someone is maybe through the internet like posted a
tattoo of some sunny thing.
The internet, but I don't think I've read into someone in person with it.
I have seen some.
I feel like I've seen them live before, but I'm.
Maybe I have.
At the premiere when we had fans come and it wasn't just like industry people.
Remember that year?
Yeah.
This was great.
There was a bunch of people in the bar afterwards in the party and this dude showed me his tattoo.
What phase of cricket was it?
It was a fourth season, 13th.
When I'm, you know, got the tin foil and I'm going like that, you know.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe like when D, D's pregnant kind of area.
I thought that was quarantine.
Oh, no, that's the, that's the PCP joint.
Yeah.
Did not think anyone ever get a tattoo of me on there.
I mean, a lot of tattoos to be fair.
It wasn't like the only one, but.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
Here's another question.
What was cricket doing during quarantine?
Which do you remember we had an idea for this in the room?
I had, I had, yeah, I think I thrived during quarantine.
Yes.
And I had a, what is it, a rickshaw company to deliver things and I was running my own rickshaw.
What I remember was that we were realizing that because everything was remote work that
you just put up like a background behind yourself and you were able to like have a real job
because nobody knew that you didn't have a home.
Amazing.
And so we were going to play the thing that the cricket actually got quite successful
during quarantine because having a home wasn't like necessary.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We just needed a backdrop.
I would think I'd be thriving because everyone's getting everything delivered and I've caught
everything so it doesn't matter to me.
Yeah, I feel like you'd be.
So I'm just rickshawing whatever and I'm just like, I'm more flush than ever.
Business as usual.
Yeah.
You're worried about catching you.
I'm not aware of it.
Yeah.
What's going on?
Yeah, exactly.
Um, is there still hope for cricket and D?
Which maybe is a question for everybody here.
Well, that's always a chance.
If that whiteboard is empty long enough.
Yeah, I mean, I guess the question is can, can you have such a journey where then you
somehow come back around to the very beginning in some way and cricket and D get together
and have a child and I don't know.
I ended like in a Shakespearean way where all the, all the people wind up back with each
other.
Right.
If we're at the lowest point of the movie in a sense of the story is, are we going to
have a.
We're at our, yeah.
Maybe we haven't gotten to the lowest point yet.
Do you remember what was your hardest day of filming sunny?
What was like the most difficult thing to shoot?
Uh, I do remember that when we did the birds of war, uh, I got stuck talking to Rob for
like straight 45 minutes and that was tough.
For real?
Yeah, that was tough.
He's like, he didn't have anything to do or something and like.
You caught me in one of those periods where I.
Yeah, he was talking about his future or something.
I was like, that was when he was going through his cocaine phase too.
So it was like.
That was tough.
Those things like digital coins.
It's going to be like.
Yeah.
And he was like, I don't have to paint these apps on, you know, and I was like, okay.
Yeah.
And he's like, it's just cause.
And then, and then you try to walk away.
I was like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wait a minute.
I remember that when I was, when we were shooting birds of war, I do remember, um, almost fainting
weirdly, which I've never experienced in my life.
Uh, I don't know why, but, um, I think we were just rehearsing or something.
Did somebody say something that offended you and you were like.
I didn't have my pearls.
Your corset was too tight.
I think.
Oh yeah.
You squeezed your torso.
Well, it happens, you know, every now and then.
Sure.
Um, I want to look up for the camera.
The robes were too much too hot in the robes.
But not a, there's not a better place to be if you're going to faint than on a wrestling
mat.
Yeah.
What I was, but I went to my knees like, I think I'm like, has anyone ever fainted for
real?
I have.
Yes.
And it, that sort of like closing in feeling where I'm like, what's going on?
Uh, but I, I've.
Pushed through.
Managed to push through it.
Yeah.
Professional.
And I look over and Rob's like.
What happened?
Somebody handed you a turkey sandwich and got your blood sugar back up and you were good
to go or what?
Making fun of the fact I don't eat meat.
Sorry.
Tofurky.
This joke brought to you by 1985.
Next question.
Is there anything you do to prepare yourself when you're getting back into the character
of cricket?
Do you have any like thing that you do to kind of capture the.
I do like three and a half hours of makeup in a chair.
Yeah.
That's about it.
To get this.
Yeah.
You definitely put the most makeup on of anyone in this show, you know, it's a big transformation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a lot.
Yeah.
You've committed most seasons.
You've committed and grown.
Yeah.
That's true.
No, that is true.
You're not going to start growing out that beard.
Yeah.
Like two months ahead.
I'll start growing it out.
Two months before the writer's room starts or in the writer's room.
Well, the writer's room is two months.
Yeah.
Right.
So did you grow it this year?
I did grow it this year.
Oh.
I'm.
I'm.
I'm sorry.
Storyline.
People say Rick Shaw.
He's in a rickshaw.
Maybe cricket could be in the monkey episode.
You were in the monkey episode for like a minute.
Yeah.
In like one draft.
Yeah.
And then we realized we've already got a monkey.
So.
You already have one.
No, I didn't want.
Yeah.
I wanted to be the guy that's like, oh, you're going to give the monkey this.
Come on.
I can do it.
And then remember there was that video of like one monkey gets like a grape while the
other gets a veggie or something like that.
And the other monkeys really pissed.
And so I wanted to be the like, oh, you're going to give him a grape and you're going
to give me a lemon.
That bullshit.
You're going to give us both the same thing.
Yeah.
You know.
Competing with a monkey.
I don't think that.
But yeah, no, I grew.
I do grow out my facial hair and then I wasn't going to say about that.
I grow my facial hair and that that takes.
And I learned that when I did Joe Schmo that they asked me because I was on six feet under.
Hey, this guy that we're.
It was like a, you know, we're reality show, fake reality show.
We had a mark and like he said he's a fan of six winners.
So we're afraid he might recognize you possibly.
Can you grow out your facial?
And I've never grown it out.
And I was like, I don't think I can or in college I tried to, but I tried growing out
for that.
And to my surprise, like this full like nothing here, but this full beard grew goatee grew.
So you go, you don't grow here.
I can't grow anything here.
But so yeah, I grow it out for that.
And that's why it's always a goatee because I got nothing else, but yeah.
But it comes in so thick and hardy there.
Yeah.
It sure does.
Yeah.
So that's about that's about all the preparation.
Well, I just want to thank you so much for being on the podcast today.
And so I brought you something as a little thank you here, which is this nice package.
Oh, we got you bag of lemons.
Come on.
Let's do a lemon.
Let's do a lemon bit real quick.
Come on.
Let's do a lemon.
Is there like a pay an actual paycheck?
No, I don't think so.
Crick David.
We have podcasts work.
We don't really make.
So we don't make any money.
You guys don't make any money.
No.
Not for you.
Yeah.
Like we don't make money.
Like you don't make money.
You understand that the economics of podcasts, you know, you come on, you, you get to.
You provide entertainment.
No, but then you get to promote yourself.
Yeah.
Project.
I'm on your project.
I'm on your project.
I'm on your project.
Well.
I'm just be promoting you.
Crick.
You are and you are.
You know what I mean?
Sometimes you.
I mean season 15 you weren't.
And that's kind of.
This is like leverage.
You were like, you're saying, hey, we can do this without you.
We can.
I'm just saying.
Bring it.
Just suck on this lemon right.
You might have a job next year.
Crick.
Let me see.
Okay.
Yeah.
What's your actual reaction to sucking on that thing?
Still funny.
Still funny.
Still funny.
Still funny.
Still funny.
Still funny.
Still funny.
Still funny.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
David horns.
We're everybody.
There he goes.
Bye.
Bye.
He's gone.
He's gone.