The Always Sunny Podcast - Dennis and Dee Get a New Dad

Episode Date: February 7, 2022

Chewing is a massive waste of time and energy.

My sound is weird. Oh is that? Cause you didn't clap. Try clapping. I can only hear it in my left ear. Maybe it's your ears that are off. Can you turn my right ear on? Do you still have your ear wax in?

Have you been swimming? Do you remember the kids that would have to like plug up their ears with wax to go swimming? They like. No, they didn't have ear plugs. Yeah, I had to do that. Is that you? Yeah. You can only hear, Glenn, you said.

I can only hear in my. Out of your right ear. Wait, hold on a second. Plugged in all the way down there. Oh, look at that. No. Yeah, okay. Wow.

Sometimes it's as simple as that. You know what I mean? Sometimes as simple as that, guys. I had a, our fireplace was not working. We have a gas fireplace in the, in the family room and we had a technician come out and check it out and, and it, you know, he was there for about 15 minutes before he like basically just realized like all I had to do was change the batteries in like a thing that like, like whatever the control is that controls the thing, it was just like, he just

took the batteries out and put new batteries in and I was like, yeah, well, that's just embarrassing, but also really frustrating that like my, you know, when we had the house built like nobody told me, nobody, I didn't know it had batteries. Well, imagine going back only, I don't know, 30, 40 years to a different generation and explain to them that you need batteries to control your fire. Well, by the way, I hate it. I want, you can't, in California, you can't have real fireplaces anymore. It's against code.

I would love to have a real fireplace. I would much prefer. I don't. I had a situation like that one. This is a little off topic, but I was at a bar in Rhode Island. And it was winter time. I had this one. I was when I was still living in New York.

So I hadn't driven a car in a while and I had my parents' car and I was meeting up with Tim Roach, our editor and some of my Rhode Island buddies. And I think we were like watching a Patriots game and it was snowing. It was really snowing. I was like, all right, guys, I got a head out and I get in my car and I'm trying to drive the car and I just can't get it to go. I can't get it to like, I'm like, the tires are spinning in the snow and I'm like, okay, I'm a little out of practice.

I haven't driven a car in a few years. And I'm like, I can't get it. My buddy comes out. He's like trying to give it a little push and a cop, a cop, like come sees us and he comes over to help and I'm like, oh man, okay, have I had too much to drink? But I was all right. I was like, not endorsing drinking and drive. Maybe I had like a beer or two, but I don't have to be nervous about it.

So then the cop, the cop's looking at me and spinning like wheels are spinning now. He's trying to figure out, he looks in the window and goes, buddy, is the emergency break up? I did not realize that the emergency break was up. I was like, yeah, I think I put it down. And I think because my buddy who owned the bar was like a, like a real local guy, you know, the cop was like, go home, get home. So I got home.

Let you drive home. Go home. Go home. Let my drunk ass drive home in the snow. Cut that, cut that, cut that, cut that, cut that, cut that, cut that, cut that, cut that. You know, I really, I noticed that we say cut that, cut that, cut that and then you don't ever cut it. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Our cut-its are sincere, you know? Sometimes.

Sometimes they are. It's a very similar story. Actually, me and a bunch of my buddies were on Acid and we needed to move my friend's car and, and, and he couldn't find his keys. So we're like, well, we'll just push it. You know what I mean? Like we'll put it in neutral and push it and we couldn't figure out how to push it. It wouldn't go.

We were like, what the hell's going on? It was in a driveway. Yeah, on a, it should have very easily gone and it was the exact same thing. Emergency break. We had the emergency break up and, but we were all too. Well, sometimes, sometimes. Hops up. Hops up.

Yeah. Yeah. Guys, look at that. I think what we've learned is sometimes the, the fireplace needs new batteries. Sometimes you're on, you're drunk or on LSD and your emergency break is on. And sometimes you find out you have a new dad, Charlie. Is this the first time we established that you don't know who your dad is that we actually talk about it?

I can't remember. A lot of dad things. Is this the first time we meet Max dad? Yes. This is the first time we meet Max dad. Yeah. Yes. Gregory Scott.

Gregory Scott comments. Oh my God. What a treasure. I remember when we cast him, we watched a VHS tape of his like, real. That's how long we've been doing the show. The casting sent over, although DVD technology existed, but casting had sent over a VHS tape. All casting was being sent to us via VHS tape at that point in time. So I mean, we auditioned a ton of actors.

Little known fact. Yeah. Who read for us, who went on to become a rather big star, who read for that, read for that role. Huh. Read for the dad? Read for your dad. Yeah.

And I think he got down to, I mean, there was so many great actors that came in because it was a, I think it was a really funny part and they knew and people got it and they, and I remember him doing a pretty good job. I remember there was like three or four guys that we really liked. Yeah. And I remember we had called them back. My God. Who was it?

Dave Bautista. Get out of here. No. Really? Dave Bautista. I remember that. I have no recollection of that. He's way too young.

I would know. He would have been too young. Yeah. No, no. Dave Bautista. Yeah. How, was he 10 years older than us? Aging casting is a thing, man.

He's 52. He's 52. Yeah. He went too young. Oh. So he's, yeah, that's a bit young. And by the way, Gregory Scott Cummins, we had to age him up too. Yeah.

I can't remember how old he is, but he's... Movie title. No, I haven't seen it yet. So... Is Bautista in that? Actor's name. He plays the villain. Yeah.

He plays the actor, but like, yes, he's a very good actor. Okay. Get the fuck out of here. Anyway. He's definitely... He might like Glenn Mouthing it to me like... There's cameras everywhere. Don't do him like that.

Don't do him like that. I'm aware. I'm aware. I'm an actor. I know where the cameras are. Anyways, he plays... He plays the villain. The scene itself?

Yeah. But there's a scene where... He plays himself. Just, yeah, with makeup on. He plays himself with makeup on. Yeah. And... Ruthless, man.

God, love. You're Ruthless. Oh, he came in hot. Where's your Oscar? I'm sorry. Where's your Oscar? You want to go down in the car and get your Oscar? You're at me?

That's a damn good question. Your SAG Award? Your People's Choice Award? There was a whole thing on there. There won't be any awards in there, but it will be parked perfectly. That's right. Yeah. Parking...

You want a parking award? I'm going to get that one off the record. I just... I don't understand why people... I don't think he's acting. I think... The guy looks like... To me, he looks like he doesn't...

He's like... Shocked that he's... He looks like he's constantly on the verge of like... Like, I'm going to be discovered. Like, people are going to figure out that I'm not really an actor. I'm just weird. That's how I feel. I'm just weird.

Yeah. Yeah. Let's cut that. We're going to cut all that. Cut that. Cut that. Because the guy does not deserve that. I have not seen him give a good performance, but I'd like to.

And I'm going to watch that movie, so maybe he'll be great. I haven't seen... Actor's other movie. Yeah. So what are you talking about? So what are you talking about? No. But, uh...

You can't put the... No, no. Absolutely not. I kind of agree with you, man. I'm not a... I'm not a giant fan. No, we can... Absolutely put it in.

No, fuck that. I don't want to tear the guy down. Can I make a suggestion? Sure. Can we put it in, Megan, but can we beep... Can we beep it and then put... And then put literally like bubbles over the mouth so you don't know who... We're talking about.

Or what movies we're talking about. Yeah, maybe. There's maybe a way to cut that. Sure. I mean, sorry. Use that. Edit that into the show. Yeah.

Okay. Well, whatever. Maybe don't cut that. Maybe don't cut that. What were we talking about? So we made a television show. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And now we're at the end of the second season of it. Yeah. Right? And the episode's called Dennis and Dick at a New Dad. I really liked so much of this one. I loved it. I loved just how sort of... You know, I loved the scene with you guys and your mom in the restaurant where Danny

finds out that he's not the dad. Just the dynamic between you guys and Archer. Yeah. And Danny is fantastic. Every time I watch an episode with Anne in it, I'm like, man, what a great character. Why did we... Why did we... What happened?

I don't know. I mean, it was a good idea. It was a good storyline. It was an interesting storyline, but I think we really shot ourselves in the foot by killing that character because she was so great. I don't think we... We're projecting that far into the future. So we're just like, oh my God, what are we going to do?

This is a fun story. Let's kill a character. Yeah. We don't realize the repercussions that... I will say this though. I think the show, as much as we try to not change it so much, it has to change. It has to move forward because I watch every episode being like, God damn it, I love that. Why aren't we doing that?

And it's because you can't just do that. You can't just repeat the same thing over and over and over again. So, you know, yes, we could have hung on to Anne Archer for longer, but we did it. We only had it for one season. We only had it for one season with these foolish young kids who thought... I mean, I thought probably the show would go maybe four years tops. So maybe that's what we were thinking. I don't know.

Well, Charlie wasn't thinking at all when he... And neither none of us were when we wrote in the bad new tattoo that you were going to have to wear that for the next 12, 15 years of your life. You know, there was a decision where we could have been like, nah, whatever. It was a fake tattoo because we cut the whole riff about it. There was a riff where you say, what are you trying to do? Oh, right. And I'm like, I'm trying to get hard.

And you're like, what are you writing? And I'm like writing bad news. And you're like, yeah, but that's two words. I also stopped because it's hurting me too much. And we cut that, you know, like just because the episode was too long. Yeah. And we cut the whole riff. Yeah.

And yet kept the tattoo. And yet kept the tattoo. It's a fantastic tattoo, actually. It's a good tattoo. I thought about getting it in real life many times. I always have a little last minute decision of like, fuck it. I like the idea that maybe this feels like the first time where we have a major character who shows the complete opposite of the characters that are the main cast of the show, right?

Like a reflection of like who these characters could have been if they had good parents. I also like that we're showing how these people became who they became. Yeah. Like slowly but surely. Well, they're very, they're all still real people. They're, they're very bad and arch, but there are still real people and compared to their new father that they find out is just the complete opposite. Yeah.

A little thing though, a little thing that I caught that I love that I remember doing it was that we put in the Clair de Lune, the piano there in the, in the Guajino's. Yeah. And it cuts out like as Danny's having his rant. Yes. And then it starts back in again, just as if there's a piano player somewhere. No, no, no. Which we later established there is a piano player.

Yes, we did. In the episode where you give the speech about tasting someone's asshole or something like that. Yeah. Right. Tasting someone's asshole. Just a little bit. It wasn't great, but it was fine.

But it was fine. It actually cuts out when I scream, I'm not banging my sister. Oh, that's what it is. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I, we thought that was a really, really fun, fun choice also to have that cut out. And then there's just a pause and then it comes back in. Also the gunshots versus clicks when Danny is ranting and raving.

I wanted to talk about that. Yeah. Well, let's get into that. Let's get into that. So that was another instance where we got into an argument in the editing room. I believe both you guys wanted to put the gunshots in. How do you feel about it now, 15 years later? I think it's fucking ridiculous.

I absolutely 100% think that that is one of the dumbest things we have ever done. Oh God, I thought so hard. I was like, that's so good. Why don't we do shit like that anymore? I think that was, that was definitely an example of where at first I remember being like, I don't, I think this is so dumb. And then Charlie winning me over and being like, let me just try it. I'm like, I don't think it's going to work.

We left or whatever. He put them all in and I came in. I was like, okay, he wins. That was so great. And you were still in the first of all, it's not funny. Secondly, it's completely wrong. You're wrong. It is funny.

It's not hilarious. No, it isn't. Not so much the gun firing, but then the dry firing after he's fired all the guns and it's just clicking away. It's great. It's not. It's not. It is.

It doesn't make any sense. It can't just shoot a gun in a giant building and there's no, there's no like debris falling from the ceiling. It's just completely wacky. We didn't have a debris budget at that time. Right. Right. Right.

Which is why we shouldn't have put it in. It's just so like, so wacky and broad. And we did it in post. No one's reacting to it. No one's reacting to it. No one's reacting to it. Because on the day, that's, Danny was supposed to, or Frank was just supposed to be clicking the gun.

No, he wasn't even clicking it. He was just gesturing with it. Oh, that's even funnier. So he was not even. Yeah. Yeah. We were putting the little clicks and fires in. You guys, listen.

It's so stupid. But it's. Thank you. But it's funny. It's damn funny. It's damn funny. Maybe we should do a listener poll. A listener poll.

Can we do like a listener poll? Do we have the technology to do that? We can do that. A listener poll. Okay. Was that. How do we pose the question? Was the scene funny?

No, not was the scene funny. The scene's funny. Sure. Was the gun funny? Do you enjoy it? Or does it ruin the scene for you? Thumbs up if you like it. Thumbs down if you don't.

I'm going to guess that most people were like, yeah, no, it's funny. You know what I mean? Yeah, because most people know it's funny. You're the person who thinks nothing's funny. You don't think Rob's parking is funny. You don't think. No, that was funny. That was firing the gun.

It just made me angry, but it was funny. What you said was, which I love, you recognize that it was funny, but it didn't make me laugh. It didn't make me laugh. I understand that. I understand that. But I acknowledge that it's funny. Him firing the gun thing is not funny to me, and it annoyed me this time watching it too. I was like, this is one of the dumbest choices we've ever made.

And we've done it a number of times again. And every time Frank pulls that gun out, we do discuss like, oh wait, and Charlie's always the one who's like, we should put a gunshot in, and then sometimes we do it, and sometimes we don't. Yeah, it's funny. He's so goddamn reckless with this thing. To me, it would have been funny. But here's what I think would have been funny.

If he was gesturing with it, and you guys were reacting as if a man's waving a gun around, which is what would happen in real life, and then at the very end, he shot one into the scene. I agree. That would have been funnier. But that ship had sailed, and there was still a way to make the scene just a little bit funnier than it was. So you had managed just a little bit funnier.

Yeah, but that's what we're going for, a little bit funnier versus not so funnier. Versus reality. Yeah. No, I'm not trying to make reality. Whatever. Let's move past it. This is what I would like in the editing room still to this day. I actually thought you guys…

In the writer's room, totally. This is the process. This is the process. This is the process. I love these guys. I really do. Yeah. I love that we can do this.

It is insane that this is a profession. It's insane. Yeah. That we have an argument over whether or not to put a gun sound effect in, and to have a passionate argument about it. Yes, yes. It's like crazy. I thought someone would be like, man, you know, like I got really upset about that.

You know what I mean? Like you have to like take a breath and be like, fuck man, like I felt real anger over that. Is the dumbest shit ever. Well, well, that's just… It's so great. Right. This crazy thing about this, right, is you are trying to find some kind of truth, right?

You're trying to find some kind of truth. This scene feels real. The moment feels real for the characters. And that joke pushed it out of the truth for you, which is why you don't like it, right? That's that little sort of ticker you have in your gut that says, this works, this doesn't work. It takes me out of it. Right.

For me, sometimes I'm like, well, there's the realistic truth, there's the comedic truth. You know, like when you pitched that sweet, that you would see Sweet D as an ostrich, you know? And I was like, well, that's crazy. I mean, like, wait, you actually think she's an ostrich when you see her? And then, you know, we're like, well, let's shoot one. I got the idea, you know, I'm like, that fucking works great.

By the way, I was 100% on board for that right away. I was like, that is brilliant. Yeah. And I didn't see it. I didn't see that we could go that far. I was like, to me, it seems outside of the, I could see a man firing a gun in his apartment. I can't see a man actually hallucinating an actual bird. Yeah.

Until I saw in the editing room, there was like, no, it works perfectly, works great. Right. Yeah. And that was wasn't that. Actually, well, I mean, I guess we'll tell that story when we get to it. But I mean, I remember we were doing a photo shoot and that bird was there for the photo shoot. And that was the same day, I believe, or something that we were filter magazine.

And I want to say that was the only magazine we've ever been on the cover of. Oh, yeah. Well, we got a lot of offers now still to be, we get, we do get offers now to be, to be on covers of certain magazines that we do, that we pass on because, because we don't want to, we don't personally lose to me. This is news to me. Yeah. I'm not aware of these offers.

We've got, yeah. Well, we've gotten, we've gotten a few. A handful over the years. But now we're at a place where like, well, now, see, we needed you at a certain point. Like there was a run in the show for the first, I don't know, eight, nine years where we really needed the promotion and the publicity and they were not there for us. And then all of a sudden now we are now promotion for them. Right.

So, how does that seem fair? We're now, we're going to help promote your magazine when, when we needed you. And the poor copy editor is like, I was 10 when this all happened. I don't know. Right. Oh, you're blaming me? I'm sorry. I'm not aware of all these incoming phone calls that we're passing on.

No. Yeah. Who's passing on these things? I'll do it. Yeah. Yeah. Rolling Stones. Rolling Stones.

I don't even care if he's in the photos. If he doesn't want, if he wants to pass on it, that's fine. Yeah. I mean, maybe we would be if I wasn't putting gunshots in Danny's gun. Right. They'd be like, they'd be like, now, now we, yeah. Yeah. They'd be like, these fucking guys aren't taking this shit seriously.

They're not taking it seriously. Oh man. Yeah. Can we, can one thing that I, I, I found like, I found really funny about the show that was at the first time and I already brought this up a little bit, but the idea that we're seeing for the first time how important parents are, like parenting is and how like the question of like nature versus nurture is coming up where like, well, how did these people, how are these people existing?

Like what led them to this place? And we weren't doing it on purpose and we were just like desperate for storylines, but the idea of starting to see backstory and to start to see it and understand how these characters got to that point. No, we were absolutely. I mean, I mean, to what extent I'm not sure, but, but I mean, in, in my memory, we were, we were doing that on purpose. We were very deliberately, you know, showing what could have been, you know, had they been

raised by Bruce Mathis versus being raised by Frank Reynolds. And it's, it's, it's really fun to watch that, that those interactions with them, like really trying to kind of fit in with him at first and then they go to the hospital, they just can't help themselves. Yeah. She's stealing medication. We can't help but blab about which kids are going to be probably die and should we say something or not.

And, and then all of a sudden we're like, Hey, yeah, we're too far gone and we can't even out. We're like, these kids are dying and we're, we're like, it's, you know, complaining about hospital food and the fact that it's too cold in this room and can we crank the heat up? Like, yeah. Yeah. But in the end, what's, what's great is that if you're watching the show at that point,

it's because you get what we're doing and you're enjoying the characters so that when you and D realized that like, Oh, you know, who never made us feel bad about like these kinds of conversations. Yeah. You're actually happy for them because you're like, Oh, that brings them back to the characters that we love. Right. And we love them for how repulsive they are.

Yeah. Because we understand what, what the show is, you know, that's, but that's an interesting phenomenon that you're rooting for them. You're not rooting for the good guy in the story. Yeah. Right. Like, do you remember the whole thing with Breaking Bad and how like there was this huge backlash against Skylar?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. The character of Skylar. People that were disliking her like. Yes. Now she was the, do you remember the show?

So she was the mother and wife in the show and she was essentially the moral compass for like a while and, and people like actively hated her to the point where the actor was getting, was getting like publicly, um, yeah, like getting bullshit from people. And it was because the audience was like, Oh, no, we know that Walter is like a sociopath who's turning into a psychopath or whatever. And we're on board for that. That's the show. That's the promise of the show.

So anybody who's like a good guy who's taking us away from who that character is is like pushing us further away from the promise of the show. Right. I don't know. I think that's an interesting phenomenon. Yeah. Well, is it just as simple as, you know, you're telling a story, you have a character, a protagonist, right?

They have a want. They have a driving want. Whether they're, that's a good want or a bad want. They have a want. There's something relatable in that to everyone. And then the person who is obstructing them is annoying to the audience, just the way that a person obstructing you from your want is annoying. Is it, is it maybe just that?

Yeah. Well, I also think there's something interesting about empathy that's not necessarily like intellectual. Like if you explain empathy to Glenn, just sort of break it down like what the feelings are. Let's. Okay. So for most normal.

I've heard the word. I mean, I've heard the word. Yeah. That's a, that's a feeling. Yes. How about the idea that we're talking about my space? Yeah. Oh yeah.

My space. My space. Yeah. I mean, there's definitely right now a section of our, a demographic of our audience that doesn't know what my space is. It's never heard of. My space. Right.

I gotta say, I sort of felt the same way. Like watching the thing. I'm like, wait, what was my space? Oh yeah. Right. Yeah. Were you out? I know you were on my space.

Okay. I couldn't remember. I wasn't on Friendster. No. But I was on my space. Yeah. And then I, I've never had a Facebook account. But my space was fun.

Yeah. But do you remember that? This was an era of the internet, internet where a chart, someone had set up a fan account and it was called charlieday.net. Do you guys remember charlieday.net? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yes. So this young lady who I think was like maybe from Chicago or something and she, well, here is the funny thing. She was a big fan of third watch. Oh, right. She was a big third watch fan and then tried to get into sunny as sunny happened. And then I think eventually I must have gotten tired of me over the course of signing and

being like, this isn't the, this isn't the sexy drug dealer guy, bad boy that I thought he was. He was eating cat food and huffing Elmer's glue. This is not the guy for me. So eventually. Yeah. I mean, that was really our experience with the internet. And the closest thing we had to social media, which was the only way we could tell how people

felt about the show was going to IMDB, remember? And then do you, there were, there were, that would be like the message board. Do they still have a message board on IMDB? They must have dropped it. They must. But do you remember that we started? Right? Yeah.

Oh, they did. Yeah. Because it came so toxic. It was toxic. So, but that was like the first version of a message board that we had. And then we started, do you remember we started, we started messaging each other. So I started one that was like, Hey, Glenn Howard is a fucking dick, right? I hate his face.

Yeah. And then I put it out there. Yeah. And then we were basically battling each other, but it was just like a gag to us. And then like hundreds of people started chimed in and then we started and then it became not funny anymore. Yeah. So this is like personal and then we stopped reading them.

And then luckily we just didn't have Twitter just didn't exist. So we didn't have to read anything about us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was reading comments on Myspace, but by the time, I don't know, I think I got off of Myspace like 2007, 2008, I was like done with it.

As was everyone else. Yeah. Yeah. What a thing, man. Imagine being like the Tom, right? There wasn't a Tom from Myspace. Yeah. I mean, like this is the, it's taking off.

This is going to be the thing and Tom did great because he's, they sold Myspace to like Fox or something. My friend, well, this is crazy, but they sold it to Fox, sold it to Fox. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then Fox was like, meh. Yeah.

What was that? Like they could, it was huge. They get, I feel like they could have really like rivaled Facebook with that. And they just kind of like not too late. They might try to maybe try to revive it. Yeah. Revive it. How much did the old Tom make in that, in that deal?

How much did they buy it for? Do you know? We're going to, Meg's going to look that up. We, I like that kind of stuff. I want to know how much Tom made. I want to know how much that was sold for because nothing happened. $580 million. It seems low.

In 2005. In 2005. Facebook must have been out there at the same time and he just got it out quicker because so I have, I have become very good friends with the person who was the CEO and chairman of Myspace. Oh. And he was, and he was the one that sold it to Rupert Murdoch at Fox and he told me the whole story and it's wild.

Go. Well, basically he was summoned to Fox because they were trying to figure out like, okay, what's the next? Bring him to me. That's Rupert. So many men don't joke about Fox and Myspace. I want to know who this guy is. Oh, he is going to have a...

Bring him to me. I don't want your jokes. I don't care who's fucking space it is. Does he still my boss? No, he sold it. He sold us to the mouse. Okay. Who's my boss now?

John Disney. John Disney. I'm a trap shot. Fuck off, Rupert, I'll smack you around, Rupy, by your... Fuck off, bitch, don't you fuck on... Oh, shucks. You stupid old bitch. Wait, can we make you do Mickey Mouse?

I'll leave first. I'll leave first. Mickey Mouse talking to Rupert Murdoch. How dare you. All right. So... How dare you. Listen now, you old fuck.

I'm going to buy this space whether you like it or not. It's jump change, mate. Is he Australian? Yes. He's Australian, mate. Oh, I thought he was British. No. No.

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No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

No. Well, Charlie and I, where we're walking with our new costume, outfits. I love that scene and I love because I love when the... I love writing, acting in scenes where the characters are in agreement that like what they're doing is awesome, but they're disagreeing about the specifics of it, right? They're both on the same page and in conflict over the details. Where's like the audience is maybe at first led to believe like what they're doing is ridiculous and then they recognize that and That's not what it is. We recognize. No, we both we look awesome. It's just that you're buttoning. You're not doing it, right, right?

You're not doing it, right? And I remember you had a very you were like, I really want to do it with a top button down Yeah, and I was like and I remember even when we were talking about I was like I don't know that that's the look and you were like, well, that's what the scene should be about And that's what we wound up doing. Yeah. Yeah, I like you asking like is it is it bunchy? Yes I'm gonna do it like bungee. Is it bunching or is it bungee? That's funny. Um, yeah, no that that that that seems I like that look I mean, I think that's a good look. Yeah, I wish I can't you know, I can't get away with it But like yeah, I like it. It's good luck. That's a cool look. That's pretty sweet. I also remember not being a nice silhouette You know like the top button. Yeah, flowy. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's a nice silhouette

I go up to those guys. Hey you guys Whatever you got going on here is great man. You got a great silhouette. I really like you know what I mean I really like this. I'm sorry. Can you stand in front of the light so I can see you in shadow? Yes Look at that. So look at that. Look at that. Look at that I know how would a person respond to that and what's going on with this car? Okay, but for me, okay So my my favorite scene in the whole episode I have to say is the scene where you guys Guys quickly walk up to Bruce Mathis

With the intention of bashing him Hmm, and then you freak out and peel off leaving Charlie alone with him at that whole sequence Was so funny and I wanted to ask you because I don't totally remember I feel like you kind of came up with that whole repeating What he's saying back to him very tentatively like in the moment. I don't think that was in the script I doesn't seem like a thing. We would have scripted. No, I feel like it was something you and and When Steven Collins the actor laughs and tells you it's okay That was a brilliant moment because that was him. I think that was him breaking but using it

Yeah, I remember him kind of laughs. He's like he's It's okay. It's okay. And he's kind of laughing. Yeah, I think because you guys were you were breaking I'm sure I was breaking. Yeah, and Steven was breaking too because it was super funny and Steven was such a great actor that he just used it. He just used it And and that whole scene is so like I remember Adious getting Irritated about us laughing. He was or he's like, let's go keep it together Yeah, Adious are Adious who again directed all ten episodes and you know came from mostly drama I don't know if he had really done any comedy at that point not much

God, I love that guy. He but he was like, you know, he's like, this is we're taking this seriously You know what I mean? And he's damn right. Totally right. You know, I think it helped too, which is like, okay Someone someone's getting irritated. Let's get yeah I'll tell you what I really like about that is robbed your peel off is fantastic We're making a beeline and you fire out of there. I kind of forgotten that you fired out of there in that way Of course, you're laughing as I'm smacking you and I'm laughing through the whole episode. Absolutely I mean that scene you guys are both I mean you're you're you're bright almost breaking into a full laugh at the end of that Slapping scene like I I could see on the corner of my face that I was like

So clear that he's slapping me for real. Yeah That was also not scrappy. Yeah wasn't scripted. I tell you I was gonna do it. Oh, no, I don't think so I just I just tag yeah, you just did it and so the and of course But not in a painful way, but in a way that almost made me laugh. Yeah You really had a scene or two scenes before that where he's we're dad where my dad is talking about Where you were talking about how how helpful we were gonna be for you How was gonna be and that wasn't scripted and I just remember not being able to get through that. Yeah Well, that we have to cut immediately after you say the line. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's all

Also, I gotta say just singing save the children. I found so funny. Yeah. Yeah save save save save the children Well, here's what you think that was Steven's family. Yeah, that was yeah, that was his band. Yeah. Yeah, here's a fun fact the girl that I'm hitting on in that scene is an actress named Yada Martinez and Yada introduced me to my wife Jill which you guys know. Yes People out there. They may not know that they probably don't why would they? Anyway, Yada Martinez Thanks, Yada. Yeah, thank you. Thanks for the wife. Thanks for the wife. Yada Do you guys have this I have a moment every time I start one of these episodes where I'm like, oh my god

am I really gonna rewatch every single episode of the show not that I don't like the show but just the The the undertaking just seems exhausting to me just because we've already put so much thought and effort into these things and like to go back and then by the time I'm done with the episode of I've Enjoyed going for that ride and that trip down memory lane But I find the task daunting every single time I sit down to do it I just have a moment just a flashing moment of it It's it's strange because I bring it I haven't been watching them with Caitlyn, which I should do But I bring moments up in the episodes because what happens is I forget them completely and then as I'm watching them

They I remember them so well because we spent so much time in the editing room on them, right? So then all of a sudden it like comes flashing back then I go next and then I say hey remember that moment I said to Caitlyn. It was so funny when you did this She has zero recollection right because she was there on the day and did it and then maybe watched it once Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Has she ever seen the show we don't like I did every time I talked to her about it She's like, yeah Thanks, like she doesn't remember shit There was like a few years where we didn't want I was so sick of it by the time it aired that I don't know that we

Watched it. I don't think I would remember anything if we didn't spend all the time in the editing room Have there been entire episodes that she has not seen? Yeah, probably Wow, I know and I used to get really upset by that Yeah, or if she would be like if we would watch I maybe we stopped at a certain point because we would watch them And then she would like get up and like go and I know with the cat or the dog or the just you know what I mean And I'm like and of course, this is the way people watch TV So you can't have judgment on it, but I'd be like we put so much work into this and you're just getting up and just doing Whatever it's like, you know what? I don't want to watch it with you. Yeah, you're in the show

Yeah, in the show and you won't sit down. Yeah. Yeah, by the way, I I'm not sure You know Jill says she thinks this show is funny, but I watch it with her and she's not laughing Most of the time like every once in a while like this this season season 15 I don't think I heard her laugh once except for when we got to the episode that you and I were talking about in the Vulture podcast the other day where you know, I'm talking to the castle and and I have them pinching off the cough and You know and that's singing in the pub and all that time Well, then maybe she was laughing a shitload during that episode

Okay, so she does but maybe we need to bounce our scripts off her before we shoot them, right? And if they make her laugh and that's a good. She's a good barometer like if we can get through to Jill She's can we get through to Caitlin? Right She watches them and laughs, but it's like she's half paying attention Some people though just don't they can't sit and watch a thing. It's not like for good or bad It's just not their thing. They don't want to sit down and watch something like I understand that I'm getting to that point Yeah, like I can sit and watch a full I

Can watch like a football game, which I recognize is is ridiculous. I understand I certainly You're not what you're not sitting there watching the commercials like that you get like little brain breaks, right? So you get like a two minutes of action and then you can go be on your phone or do whatever and then you're back I'm watching what Americans call soccer. I can walk. There are no commercials. So I'm watching now you were talking about when you said football Well, no, I was actually talking about American football there because I'm not thank God I got worried. Don't do that. By the way, I well I have to do it to a certain extent for the record It used to be called soccer in England. I know I know but they get angry Glenn. I don't know why they get so angry They're the one who invented I get a damn sport and called it soccer. I understand. Okay, I understand

Nevertheless, I recognize how ridiculous the Ridiculous is to watch any of that, but I can sit there and watch it. I'm having a tough time sitting through Like sitting down to watch a two-hour movie these days Yeah, and it's not because my attention maybe it's because my attention span But it's also because I got other shit going on I don't know curry the movies to the movies start grabbing you could be like everybody's attention span these days is much shorter than it Used to be because of our phones and social media. Mm-hmm like to pay attention for 22 minutes. It's like, whoo, it's a lot to ask Yeah, let's see. What do you got I saw today that that we on somebody sent this to me from

They sent it to me and Ryan actually because on Hulu trending searches the number one Trending search was sunny on Hulu. What on all of Hulu and the second one was Deadpool And the third one's Deadpool 2 which I thought was interesting so that we have a similar audience and then I thought we're not getting paid enough Right because Ryan's very rich. Yes, but it's all like gin money, isn't it like yeah I think he makes a lot of money for those movies. Thank you prop. Yeah. No. Oh, no, we've been vastly underpaid We know that we've been talking about that for years. We're very pop Look, the more people that go and watch the show, maybe they're watching me either rewatching it with us as we go I don't know some people are they are I had somebody come up to me the other day and told me that they were that they just it was

actually a friend of mine and You know, not not somebody was watching it for any other reason than they just decided to watch it again and Was it? Oh, it was Oh, it was Taryn kill him I was talking to Taryn kill him and Taryn was like I started watching the show again And then you guys started the podcast and he's like it's timing up perfectly with me rewatching the show Yeah, Taryn's great. You guys know Taryn. Of course. I know Taryn very funny very funny very talented man. Lovely guy We've done it Oh, we're not you usually go a full hour full hour

Now we got 10 more minutes. Come on guys Let you oftentimes the last 10 minutes we get fired up and you know, we get let me get a little more coffee Go get some coffee. Go get some coffee Okay, take me over the top. Yeah, you know, can you tell me what's in that coffee? Is it just coffee? Is it what kind of special is there like an egg cracked in there? Do you have hot pepper? Is it? I'm brewed in what why do you ask that because I'm pepper and an egg Is that is that a crazy thing to ask now? Hold on a second This motherfucker was drinking coffee that also had egg in it. No

Coffee and egg hold on a second What was the bullet coffee that's butter it's like a butter explain yourself. It's a butter. Okay. Well grandfather Bullet coffee, which is otherwise known as an actually known as bulletproof coffee is Is coffee and butter and MCT oil And sometimes coconut oil, there's different ways to make it But the main thing that bulletproof coffee is by the way, that's not pepper. Okay, that might sound strange But like by the way, I never really I did the bulletproof coffee thing for like five seconds. It's just absolutely destroyed my stomach

Yes, I'm not I hate it The reason I was asking was because it's not that crazy to assume but to go from butter to an egg I don't know. You know what? I have coffee with my eggs all the time I've never thought to like stir the eggs straight into the coffee Maybe I could be missing out. I mean, that's a very common when he has get some eggs have a cup of coffee That's I'm down to try it. I'm down to try to like, you know, and coffee or coffee egg Oh, I bet how about this? How about this like you did some coffee some cold coffee, right cold brew coffee Put it in a blender with some ice

Couple of crack a couple eggs in there. Maybe put some butter in there, right and a little bit of honey Maybe just we well, no, you can't do that. No, that's break. That's kind of no I don't want my drinks to be my meal. I like a meal. I like a drink But I don't want my drink to be my meal. I would drink every single meal if I could Really? You don't really enjoy food. I want to be chewing and you know, chewing is a massive waste of time and energy You Mix it with my saliva and swallow it. That's it. That's it. Well, the way you chew it is a waste of time though I do chew a lot of chewing. There's a lot of chewing. There's compartmentalizing of the food

It gets chewed and going to a lower corner. It sits there for a while or something else is chewed and moved up into the top of your mouth Then at some point it swallows together Factory It's something you're separating the egg from the salt in your mouth somehow Because you've learned what will metabolize faster You are turning food into a liquid in your mouth before it's being swallowed Like you but what's so great about you do your mouth is the ultimate blender I love about you is that you read somewhere, you know years ago that if you chew your food a thousand times per bite

That it actually was better for your body. No, I've been doing that. I appreciate that. I've been doing that since I was a kid I swear to God. I was always amongst my friends. God. I'm crying My friends when we were kids would would wolf down their food like we'd go to McDonald's and they'd eat their hamburger and like two bites And I'd be sitting there chewing forever and they were like, let's go man We got like we got to ride our bikes across the train tracks again or whatever the hell it was We were doing back in the day And I just couldn't I just chew I just chew and chew and chew for a man who has to chew like that I you of course you want your fruit liquefied, right? Yes

Because you want to be on you want to be on your bike too. It's a lot to be on your bike I want to be on the bike is the chewing is a bird an adventure with your friends going to find dead bodies Look, we get it. So you understand you want to be in standby The egg coffee would be good for you a coffee egg would be a coffee that's been hard boiled an egg That's been hard-boiled in a pot of coffee. Oh, that would be a coffee egg, but I would shot coffee Yeah, like in a percolator, right? We're actually boiling. Let's make both of those and then see which ones The coffee's not going to penetrate the shell of the egg and actually affect the flavor. So what? Yes, it is I

Mean you were so clear and so sure that oh, yes, it will Penetrate the shell of the egg. I by the way, I love your passion for this. I really do I have no idea I've had a tea egg before I've had a tea egg which was an egg that you're kidding boiled and tea and it was delicious It tasted like tea. Yeah Very good. I hear blowing my mind. I've never heard of that a tea eggs. Yes. What is this? It's a it's from the other cultures man. It's what culture? Japan. Oh And Chinese

Okay, I don't I don't know Chinese tea eggs. Yes Chinese tea eggs and then my do they We find it in a savory liquid Well, that's why you sticks and peppercorns Star and but do they peel the egg before they boil it? That's what we need to know. You can't peel it You say do they do they boil it and then like soak it in the tea or something like after Crack it open crack open the boils Can't figure it out. He's frustrated Yeah, he wants to make yeah, okay. All right coffee egg

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that that's gonna be gross yeah I'm with you I think that's gonna be unpleasant I so I was what I was gonna say is I had that same you and I had the same gum surgery where you know you're having like recession and your gums and you get like a thing and they have to take like a little bit of tissue from the roof of your mouth this is generally how it's done by the way I've heard recently somebody told me they can do it with cadavers now that's creepy but you can get them all done at once because they're not scraping it from the roof you can scrape yeah we can already just say

that we should cut this they can take the skin the the roof skin I think of a cadaver and use that to fix your gums fix your gums no yeah it's creepy it's creepy anyway thank you so they took it from the roof of my mouth and then they you know they do it there and it eventually turns into your gum tissue and you know heels and looks normal but you can't eat solid food for two weeks and in that two weeks my my whole my whole thing was I got this I ate the same foods that I would normally eat like if I was having chicken and vegetables and rice I wouldn't be like well I can't eat that because that's solid I would

just literally take that put it in a Vitamix add water and blend it into a smoothie and I would eat chicken rice and vegetables as a smoothie and it was great it tastes you know what it tasted like chicken soup yeah I would describe this to people and they'd be like that's disgusting what that's horrible and I'd be like no it's just it's just soup you're like eventually it's gonna get blended up before you swallow it certainly in my mouth I'm just I'm just alleviating my mouth from having to do the blending work I would heat it up first so I would heat it up I would cook it and then

sorry to be clear and then put it in the Vitamix and add water and how about a friend that was on the all all raw diet oh mark yeah I was eating on mark and it's like raw chickens and I don't know that they I know that they tried raw chicken but I don't think that was ever like a staple of their diet and they didn't stick with it like I don't think anyone that's a tough thing to stick with no and by the way I went to the place where we would get those because there's certain raw foods you can't that are like against the law in California you can't you're not supposed to be able to get them meanwhile I was scraping

cadavers mouths for yeah gum surgery but I this this company that would it was called raw and they would they would get I mean it's so shady they would literally go to Amish farms in Pennsylvania and drive it in this like big white van the kind of van that you see and you go I gotta stay away from that van and then they would park it in a parking lot and you would buy stuff out of the back of this van like you know raw eggs raw butter raw goat milk raw cow's milk raw meat raw what were the straight out of the salmon salmonella mobile just like yeah yeah yeah I think that was what they called it actually yeah the salmonella

mobile but they sold salmonella wafers cut that I couldn't help myself that's such a dad joke that was such a dad joke I hate myself for saying that let it go man let it go okay I'm gonna let it go anyway where was my point I don't know anyway we so yeah we used to get all these like raw foods and and like I tried it to some degree for a while I was like you know but I couldn't stick with it it's pretty there the one thing I would try to eat raw fish and I bought like some sushi-grade fish and I cut it up and there was a fucking worm in there and I was like I'm done I'm done right a worm a wiggling worm alive wiggling

worm not a worm it's like dead and your yeah no no no a wiggling worm and I was like well I'll never because human beings started saying you know we'll start cooking our shit because let's see why do we have to cook food why are we the only animal that has to cook its food well I'll tell you what happened what as we started cooking food our lower intestines there are intestinal tract got smaller which made room for our brains to get bigger and suddenly we were not being yeah that's how it happened so once like your brain couldn't get big until your intestines got small how's how was the correlation there well

just your intestines doing a lot more work because you were just only eating raw foods and trying to just like the animals all the other animals okay so more power went was able to but then we got fire and then as we got fired we got smarter and our brains got bigger and then suddenly you know we're in charge and not that not the you know the town tiger I don't know enough because we figured out how to trap it you know yeah I don't know enough about brains to dispute it