The Always Sunny Podcast - Frank Sets Sweet Dee on Fire

Episode Date: April 25, 2022

Cool face, hold it.

All right, here we go. Okay, we're about to watch. Before we go, we don't just go. Hang on, pause that. We don't just go. We don't just go. I just go. Sorry, sorry.

Here we go and the podcast starts. Well, so we thought we'd try. Wait, are we starting? Did we start? I don't want to waste your breath. Thank you. We thought we'd try watching one back and talking about it as we watch it. Yeah, just something different.

We don't know. Is that going to work? This is, well, we're about to find out together. Yeah. Guys, it's great to see you. It's always great to get together and see you guys for the podcast. Yeah. We are in our new studio once again.

And we're going to watch this next. Now, this next episode isn't necessarily a special one that deserves this, but we just got. In fact, I have very little memory of this episode at all. Yeah. I think we just got a little, you know, we get bored and we like trying different things. We never just do the same thing. But based on the title, Frank sent sweet D and fire.

I remember him throwing a match down the well and lighting her on fire. I remember us doing the camera. Do you want to know any surprises you go? Well, you don't need to be surprised. This one is a big blank space. I watched it already. Oh, you did? Okay.

Because I thought we were, that's what we're doing. But we're doing this instead. Okay. Great. So you're seeing it for the second time in two days. We're seeing it for the first time in 10 years. No, because I did a, I did a whole rewatch, like maybe a year ago. Oh, okay.

Like before we did the podcast. So you are, you guys are narcissists. No, sorry. No, I did what I thought we were going to do is watch it ahead of time. I did a rewatch of this. Even though we discussed the text that we wanted to. No, no, no, I'm a hard worker. I do not.

After. If I'm not a group text. I know that about you. Just don't. If you want my attention, you just have to individually text me because I cannot stand a group text. Oh, wow. I had to definitely. I'm good for like three.

You don't like group texts. No. No. Do you like five people talking at you at once? But it's not that. It's, it's. It's one person talking at once. Yeah.

I turned the ringer off. Cause I can't stand. Oh. Bling, bling, bling, bling, bling, bling, bling, bling. Too much. The moon. I'd like to get rid of my phone. I'd actually like to not have a phone anymore.

I kind of want to get off social media. Yeah. And not have a phone. But I don't think I can get away with that. Stuff. You know, cause I do like being able to look something up, protect the weather. Yeah. Yeah.

Music. I like music options. Yeah. No, I like all of it. That's the problem. You like the upsides. You don't like the downsides. That's right.

I'm going to go back to defending myself of why I did a rewatch. Oh, because it's all about you. Sorry. Go ahead. Well, it, you know, it's, it's mostly about me. Um, no, I did a rewatch in anticipation of writing season 15 of the show. I took two years off the writer's room. See, that's professional.

And I, and as a professional, I was like, you know what, I want to make sure that we're not doing more of the things where we, you know, accidentally write something in that's not consistent with the, uh, the lore of the show. And then, and then we ended up doing the skating episode anyway. All right. Um, all right, let's try this fucking rewatch idea. Already, it says TV, MA language and violence. Violence.

I mean, fuck. Thank you. This is so stupid. Language and violence. Just, just play stuff and people want to watch it. You just palling around with the guys. How's anybody going to get hurt? Classic.

All right. Let's pause it. Okay. So we just watched a cold open, uh, and let's talk about it. Yeah. Okay. I want to talk more about how Charlie hates this. He just hates it.

I don't hate it. Because we don't know what's going to happen. We have like hundreds and hundreds of these, of these podcast episodes, but we just, we're just trying shit. He just doesn't trust that it's going to work. I'm not convinced that it's going to work, but I don't know. It's the worst case scenario. Uh, that's good.

That's a good question. Um, worst case scenario is that it's kind of boring and we have to redo it. No, no, because we're going to talk about the episode anyway and we can jump ahead. This cold open. Yeah. It's a funny shit in there. Like, a lot of us justifying what we're about to do and why we're about to do it. Yeah.

A little heavier hand than we would maybe use now, but it plays the news thing is funny and like just a little clip. New soccer. Yeah. I like that. I think that's something that I feel like I used to, I used to feel about like the actual news and reading the news, but don't and haven't for a long time. But like this whole idea of like, yeah, like, okay, so they're smuggling like fucking shit

into plutonium and to Syria, like, great, what the fuck does that have to do with me? You know what I mean? Like that, just the complete like lack of understanding of the, you know, how the world works. I mean, symbiotic. The butterfly effect of a nation such as Syria having access to nuclear arms. Yes. There's a lot of people who probably watch that clip and are like, fuck yeah, I'm with

you. Like, what do I care when something happens outside of, you know, where I live? And then there are the people who like, maybe get satire more of that, which is like, well, shit that happens outside of where you live can still affect where you live, but that's the show. But those are the same people that want to know what Paris Hilton wore last night, you know what I mean? I'm going by the way, I mean, back in 2007.

Not now. I don't think anybody cares what she's wearing now. Or maybe they do. This episode is very dated in that regard because there are Paris Hilton references and there is basic cable references, which is like, no, not local, local access. Local news. Local. Public access.

Public access. Public access. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah. Which is, that's not still a thing, is it? Public access? Sure. How do you get it?

How would you get it now? All right. All right. Well, should we keep going? Try to hunt something. What happened here? He's on coffee. It was the coffee, right?

Is it agitation? I've been on different time zones. Yeah? You've been on some different time zones? I was in the Texas time zone and now I'm in the California time. What's that? Two hour difference? Two hours?

Yeah, that's enough. Yeah. Through me a little bit. I've watched this episode already and I don't want to have to watch it again. That's part of it, I think. Yeah, see that. What else? What else?

Coffee? There's some coffee. Coffee? Have you eaten today? I haven't. I didn't have a proper meal. I've kind of picked at some things, that's part of it. And then it's my spidey sense of like that this isn't the best way to do one of these

episodes. You know, very creatively passionate. Has your spidey sense ever been wrong? No. Never? No. I mean, occasionally I let you guys think that you were wrong. Think that you were on the other side of the argument.

Otherwise I'd be unbearable. No, I'm usually fucking right. Let's continue this. Oh, we're going to watch the whole show. You know, let's get the intro. Let's get the intro. Okay. We are going through Philly.

You guys ever heard this one? There we go, executive producers. There we go. I like our title sequence. Is that the train station? Is that Dairy Queen? And created by Rob. There you go.

I do enjoy that it's called It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and the entire title sequence is shot at night. Night. I know. Yeah, that's good. That's great stuff on public access. Oh, is there? Wow, let's see what kind of quality.

Was this dancing guy? Dancing guy. Oh, wow. This guy's pretty great. So to hire this guy, we just like, we just, well, we just like picked an extra and we said, show us your dance moves. No, I think we had people audition. We might have had people audition.

We had a guy in mind. There was a guy on Venice Beach. I still think he's there. He had the little silver ball. Yeah. And he was that guy. That guy. And he's tight and tight.

He always wears, basically dresses exactly like this. Yes. And he's super tan. Yep. And kind of like a bodybuilder type guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, totally. No, he was totally.

Yeah. And he jacked. And we brought him in. I remember when he was like, our cast director was like, no, no, you can't. It's not going to work. Yeah, he's not going to be. He's not, he's unwell. He's unwell.

I remember that. I remember that as well. You always wonder about the guys like that though. You're like, is he unwell or are we unwell? Because look, think about that guy's life, he's unwell, he fucking think about his life. He works out. I'm thinking about his life. He's fucking dancing his underwear with a silver ball for a fucking loose change in

the street. He wasn't. I don't think he is. He wasn't asking for money. No, he may have been independently wealthy. We don't know. He, he, he was never dead wrong. This is a fucking great idea.

And I told you as much. No, he, he, he, he always looked happy as shit. He always had headphones on. He was always fucking jamming in music and listening and like dancing and playing with the silver balls and the fucking hanging out the beach all day. You gotta look happier. They don't tip, man. You gotta look happier.

I don't think he ever, I don't, I don't ever remember there being a hat or anything. He was, I think he was just experiencing life. That's what I'm saying. I think he was happy as hell. Yeah. Just one of those people just floating on a cloud all day fucking long. Great. Anyway, we had the higher.

He was great. But you know, the, then I think that guy, I remember that guy came in, right? He saw his tape and there was something upsetting about it. We were like, oh, this is kind of dark. There's a darkness. Whereas this guy, it was very like, there's a darkness too. It's an enjoyable darkness. No, I love this.

I do enjoy the fact that he's wearing underwear and cowboy boots. He's got a serious farmer's tan as well. And we gave him little to no direction. You know, I think this is where his moves, he came in with them. He came in with them. Let's watch more of this. Hi. Get a couple of upskirts, a couple of nipslips.

Boom. You'd be famous like that. Well, yeah, I think I'd like to avoid the nipslips and upskirts, but I think I see that you're going with this. Let's fuck you into it at some point. And I could be famous just by being frozen. Absolutely. Great.

Good luck with that. This was before the Kardashian thing really caught on. This was back when Kim Kardashian was just friend, one of Paris Hilton's friends. Yeah. Are they friends? Was that worth it? I don't know. She was a spinoff of Paris Hilton.

Yeah. But what made, I mean, it's all phenomena. I mean, think about, like, it used to be sort of like you could make the joke like, oh, this person's famous for doing nothing. But then like, you know, jokes on you, man, because they have taken that to the stratosphere. They sure have. Yeah. Anyway.

It's like they're on them. But they're industrialists. Are they not? Big time. Yeah. No, they're, they've created an entire business out of it. But I still find it disgusting. Oh.

Oh. Why? Why? Sure. I don't like it. There is something annoying about being famous without having a thing. Like, do I think, man? Yeah.

Like, you know. But they don't. But they don't. But they don't. But they don't. But they don't. But they don't. But they don't.

But they don't. But they don't. But they don't. They don't do the thing and they become famous for doing whatever the thing is. And then these guys were just like, well, why don't I just be famous first? And then when I do the thing, it'll be way more successful because I'm already famous. Yeah. It's actually.

It was pretty brilliant. You got to give them credit. It's like, we'll just film ourselves being us, which basically is what we're doing right now. And it worked. They, they became, you know, all we talked about or cared about. Yeah. To be clear, I don't, I don't have a problem with the whole idea of becoming famous in

order to create a product that then is successful because you're using your fame to do the thing. But like what I found disgusting initially when, when the whole like in, I guess it was before even that term existed, probably an influencer, right? Like the whole, whole Paris Hilton thing of just like being famous for literally doing nothing, just, just showing up places and being a socialite, being a socialite, you know, like I just, I just personally, I, but you know what, that's also, that's also, I think, you know, that's just a personal thing. I just, I just, I don't like that.

I just don't like it. I think it turns a lot of people off. I don't think you're alone in that. I think, I think it was, you know, I think we got, we got forced into it in a way like it broke us down or eventually just became a part of our society or dominated our conversations. We're used, we're much more used to it now. But I mean, back then that whole thing was just completely bizarre. Do a thing.

You know, just, yeah. You know, don't just do a booty, don't just have to be your, don't just be a butt. Don't just be a butt. Yeah. Here we go. In three, two, one. Look at this. Good afternoon, Philadelphia.

This is Matt coming to you live from the Malvern Retirement Home. Cool face. Hold it. Hello, miss. What's your name? Irvine Simon. Is there anything that you want to tell the world, Irvine? My grandson's birthday on Friday.

No, no. Is there anything about this place that you don't like? The blacks. Cut. Cut. Okay. All right. We got it.

That is so fucking fine. That's a good scene. That actor is amazing. She's amazing. She's amazing. Saying like this episode is crazy. Will we still make that joke? Yes.

We would. Definitely. Yeah. She's an old racist lady. An old racist lady. That exists. These things are full of them. Yes.

Absolutely. Chock full. There's a lot happening and going on and maybe we wouldn't use the term ass rape. Maybe we would. I don't know. I think we would. I think we would. Because the joke is that Danny is just saying that loudly in the room and we're like, what?

Shut up. What are you doing? I love that. We just walk up to someone and start filming them too, which is pretty great. Okay. And then this works. Yeah. This scene was very funny.

This works. This works. You know, you think I added the cool faces. Hold it. Hold it. That was in post. Yeah. You were probably behind the monitors at this point.

You're not actually holding the camera. Yeah. I think someone else was holding it. I think you're right. Yeah. That's a good point. Yeah. And I think we were watching it and we just, we saw some little beats.

Yeah. Yeah. Need a little. Need a little. Cool face. Hold it. Cool face. Hold it.

Cool face. Hold it. All right. Here we go. Here we go. We figure, let's get out of the sleepy nursing homes. Let's go to a place where we could run into something cool. Yeah.

Yeah. And we think has lots of mysteries. So let's go check it out. Is what's coming up. Fish being traded for fish. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited about it.

Yeah. What the hell are these guys doing? They're just trading fish for other fishes. What it looks like. Big marine. This isn't going to lead to karate. No. I think what we got to do is find one sick guy and do a story about a new pandemic.

No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

No. Wow. A wet market. We just predicted. Is that what they call them? Aides. Yeah. A wet market.

Cold. And we predicted that there was going to be another pandemic and you guys were going to report on it before it. Yeah. Wow. I think we manifested it somehow. We could. It took a long time to manifest.

Yeah. Fibers is usually move a little bit faster than that. Okay. Let's just keep it going. Yeah. Okay. Okay, wait, that I remember distinctly. What, what, what?

Did they pass the same fish back and forth? Yeah, so that was not in the script, but Charlie was saying that one. The same thing. That's because we had hired some extras. Yeah, and they didn't know they were given very minimal direction. These are all guys that lived on the street.

Yeah, they lived in that street. We just grabbed them and were like, hey, you guys mind passing fish back and forth? Yeah, we didn't do it, but somebody did on our behalf and paid them 50 bucks upon. We were just in profit because we noticed they were just passing the same fish back and forth. And we thought it'd be funny to comment on this.

We're in Chinatown, where a large crowd has gathered for what can only be a martial arts showdown. You look scared. I'm sorry, I'm just sweating, it's very hot. Martial arts, expo, just go in, go in. So we're hoping for some martial arts because we're racist and what they're doing is they're playing. Is they're playing We Tennis.

We Tennis. Which we also predicted. People watching other people play video games. Sure. So you heard it here, guys. We've predicted almost every major event to the last 15 years. That's right.

And then this is what happens. Oh, I'm in a pandemic. Bird flu, bird flu. I think it's choking, guys. What? He is choking. Frank, Frank, your mom. I'm not gonna touch her.

I don't know what he's got. Drake, you know how I'm like? I don't know. I'm gonna punch her in the stomach or something, dude. Okay. Oh, God. Oh, man. I did it.

You okay? I did it. I did it, I did it. I see it feel like fish. Woo! Call it a bitch. Call it a bitch. Call it a bitch.

I think I did a really good job choking, by the way. I think he was a stunt guy. Oh, really? He was a stunt guy, yeah. Yeah, because I got fucking nailed. Because he had to get punched. And he had a good, he spit the fucking thing out. He spit the hell out of it.

Yeah, he was a good trajectory on that thing. Weird choice to point at someone's face and say, I saved your life, bitch. Yes, and I would like to get back to that guy. Like, because that's funny to me. Calling people bitches is funny. Okay, okay. We can work on that.

Yeah. So we, I don't know why we decided to do this, but we always kind of stuck with our characters being a little bit behind on technology. Yeah, yeah. So like, a better- The old TV- Better cameras existed.

Yeah. No one was using VHS at this time. Correct. But our characters were still using their old- Yeah, we had the old TV, we had the old VHS, we had the old- Old TV, old VHS. There's an old flashlight on top of it.

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Here, take this. What is this? You'll see. This is good glow stick dancing, man. Now, what was that song? Like, we just won in our library. It sounds like go, go for it, but it's not, but it's in the same.

D-I-S-C-O. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, some cheap song that we're able to afford. Like, cause they'd never be playing this music in a club. No, no, no, no, no, this is what we could afford. They would be playing something that some people think sounds better, but doesn't. Now, I don't recall where this location was,

where this club was. Oh, God. Somewhere near, I think, our stages, maybe? I think it was actually in West Hollywood. West Hollywood. I think it was a West Hollywood location. I'm not totally sure. I've never left a club with the sun up.

Oh. I don't think I ever have. I have many times. I just hated clubs. I didn't really go to clubs. Well, I worked in one. So you, so I would leave at five. You worked at a club?

Yeah. Upper West Side. Venue, it was what it was called. And I would leave, you'd leave at 5.30 in the morning. Yeah. Oh, that's the worst. God, what were you, bartender, barback? Barback.

Yeah. Yeah. I never. And a couple of times. You didn't just wipe down the loaves? They were like, There were a couple of nights where I was one of the customers at some club in New York,

and I was there until five, six in the morning. And that is the worst feeling in the world walking around. Yeah. I could not stand clubs, and back in the day when people around me and my friends were like wanting to go to clubs and stuff, I hadn't quite figured out yet that like, Oh, the reason people are enjoying this

is because they're on drugs. Right. Yeah, that's what's keeping them out of the way. So I would go and I would drink and I would try to talk to people. Forget it. But you can't talk in a club. No, yeah.

And I didn't want to dance because I hated dancing in clubs. So then I'd just be standing around fucking, just being like, what do I do? I don't know what to do in this place. I can't have a conversation with anybody. I can't. I'm not on drugs.

No, the point of it was to take the drugs, to go dance and then find a partner to leave with. See, I know that now, but I, you know, I don't know. I wasn't hanging around with enough people that were people that were. I wasn't as successful as I would have liked to have been. Yeah. Yeah.

So I stopped. Stopped doing that. I didn't even try. I was like, it's not gonna work today. I've done ecstasy a few times though and it's great. I don't even think that exists anymore. The kids do something else. Molly, I've never done Molly

because that my time's passed. It's basically the same thing. I mean, it's just, it's like pure MDMA as opposed to ecstasy, which is a mix of MDMA and other fucking. Now there's fentanyl and everything. Yeah, let's not, let's stay away from that kids. That's not a good club. Kids at adults, let's go ahead and stay with a few powders.

It's a real bummer. Why are they still putting that in everything, man? It's not that simple though. Some people are getting like, dozed. They think they're getting something else and they're getting dozed with fentanyl. It's really, it's really awful. Then that's what I'm saying.

Like, let's just stay away from all of it. Don't do drugs, kids. All right. Don't do drugs. Don't do drugs. Why don't you take my picture now? It's gonna work, okay? You're not famous yet.

You're just some stupid drunk chick who's slept in her own puke. Well, come back tonight. Let's go. Come on, rise, ladies. Kick. Now this was not too long after she had hurt her foot, broke her foot or something, right?

This season she broke. I think she had just come out of the boot. Back. She broke her back in season three. Yeah. This was season three. Yep, yep, yep. Did she also break her foot?

She also broke her foot. She also broke her foot. In season three. Yeah. She broke both her foot and her back. Yeah, so as I recall, she was able to slip out of the boot just long enough to shoot these scenes, but like, you notice she barely walks in this season.

Oh. So we've got her standing in the line. Right. And then we've got her just lying down. Right. And then we have her getting up, but we don't ever see her walking. She's flopped into that trash though.

That's cause she's a pro. Maniac. And then she comes out of the building on fire and stuff. Well, I am noticing that something that I feel like we haven't been doing is we're sticking with characters for a couple beats instead of just popping back and forth from one to the other, one to the other. Like, we were in our storyline for a couple more beats

and I feel like we would have been and now we were in theirs for multiple, I don't know. Sometimes we do it. It might have been a time passing thing to, you know what I mean? I don't know. I don't know either. All right.

Hey, who's the sexy new sky? It's Mack. Yes, it's Mack. And he's on the chin or whatever. We make it on news. Right. We're gonna make it on the TV. All right.

Here it is. You going to the building? Did you make that song? Yes, definitely. For sure. On the spot, right? For sure. That was like one of those.

Yeah, sometimes we start doing a scene and we're like, yeah, it needs some mouths. Yeah. For sure. I feel like you can see Rob laughing, but like trying to make it look like he's wincing from the massage. Yeah, that's accurate.

That's accurate. I cannot believe you guys. I could have been killed. Well, somebody had to save those kittens, you see? Yeah, they were trapped inside a burning building, DeAndre. You set me on fire. We set the building on fire. You just happened to catch on fire.

Barely. Yeah, we put you out. That's right. Barely. This is one of the first times we did something a little special effects heavy. Yeah. Right?

Like, I don't know that we'd ever done anything quite that special effects heavy before, because obviously she was not on fire. How do we do we just CGI to play, which was fine, because we were so far away from the character that it worked. Hey, what if we set up like a conveyor belt situation, right? Put the cats on that, and then at the end of it,

a chopping mechanism. Oh, yeah, let's chop cats, let's chop cats. I mean, that's me laughing. Laughing. Just straight up laughing. Just straight up laughing. Yeah, I know. Because that was not scripted.

No, no, no, let's chop cats. Can we watch that? Can you just skip back 15 seconds and let's just rewatch that? Let's chop cats. La, the, and we kept it in. A conveyor belt. Yeah, because it's OK for your character to laugh at me.

A chopping mechanism. Oh, yeah, let's chop cats. Let's chop cats. No, we don't actually chop the cats. The things that aren't working for me, just like are like a couple of logic things like, well, why wouldn't Dennis want to be the famous one? Right.

And like her being, maybe just like, I think I'm going to be famous just by being in a club. Like just a couple, like a lot is working, but there's like some logic things that I feel like, I don't know, just aren't as good or as thought out as they could be. I do like the episode. There's lots of big laughs in it.

So I'm not shitting on the episode. I'm just saying that's where I don't think it's. Not our best. Yeah, versus the episode before the gang sells out, I felt like everything was maybe a more believable motivation to characters. Yeah. That's it.

That's all. That was the only difference. Then what are your outfits in these episodes? What? Your outfits in these episodes. Yeah, it's crazy. I think that was like. Like that was the look.

That was like the club look at the time. Because this was like. Affliction. The Ed Hardy time. Melrose, Ed Hardy, yeah. Yeah, just anything on Melrose Avenue. Yeah. Oh, the bottle thing, it makes me genuinely uncomfortable.

End of episode. Pedro Lopez also be like the subject matter, too, is like. Not like yucky in a way. I don't know. Like diaper time and shit. You guys remember that cable show in New York, New York one, like where it was like news during the day. Yeah.

And at night it was Robin Bird. Robin. We talked about this. And only on the podcast. I don't think so. I don't think we talked about Robin Bird. So it was like soft-core porn. Yeah.

Well, it was, yeah. Why do like you would have stripper yeAST men. Yeah it was it was both women and men. And they would be. Well there was man for men. It was meant for men. There's man forēne. And then women for forever.

Women for men. And then they would come and they would basically be. It was all for men. It was all for men. It was men for universal. Yeah, it was all for men. He was all for men. It was all for men.

It was. And they would do like strip teases. It would strip. Yeah, there would there wouldn't be any like fornication. No, but they would do strip But they would make it and then they then they would plug what strip club they were working at in the city. Oh, really? Yeah That's what that's oh Intention really? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, I wonder is Robin Bird still around is she still with us? She was she was already falling apart something else. She was something else She had like a dominatrix outfit on and she was got she had to be in her

70s yeah for those Just just you know just a quick Look at some Robin Rd. She it was that was it the was the time of reality, you know like it like and it was sad I Don't like God bless God bless 65 get the fuck She was she was in her 40s. She was all right. She was all right. No, that's a lie. That's a lie. She was out in sex She might have just let a rough life man like at 45, you know, you know, not everybody she was doing Well, we do porn on public access in New York in the year robin bird show in

1977 that's when it started 77 episode features bird in her trademark black crochet bikini and white fingernail polish on an all-red set with a large Heart-shaped neon sign that bears the name of her show 77. So When I So I didn't have a TV a lot of the time that I lived in New York And then it was like a couple of maybe the last two or three years that I was there in the early 2000s where where I caught where I was living in an apartment that had a TV and and I remember I actually have a very This is I know I've told you guys this story. So I acknowledge that but like

The craziest fucking thing I ever saw in New York public access TV was and it was I was I remember I was watching this my my roommate at the time one of my roommates is guy named Darren Petty and Darren and I were somehow like flipping through the channels. We came across Pub public access and it was just a close-up of a guy's butt Just a close-up of a but not moving just still and a hand just a hand coming into the frame every so often to dry shave the butt and And and it was just it was literally that that was the show, right? It was just a guy being shaved what public access was now. Yeah, but yeah, basically now the part that got interesting though

Because Darren and I were like what the fuck is this, you know But of course just like almost anything public access. You're like, well, don't change it like let's see what happens You know I mean, I want to watch this guy's let's see where this is headed Oh, yeah, it's weirdly compelling because you're like, what is this? What is this? So the guy's butts getting shaved and Darren And I start noticing it's getting closer and closer to the butt crack and we're like So now at this point we're invested. We're like How far is he gonna go? It's a story going. Hey, so yeah, where's the story going? How far is he gonna get in there, right? so then the guy

opens his butt with his hands and the guy keeps going and And and the best part is like again, the butt is like totally still and as he gets closer to the ass hole Wait, you were seeing the butthole on public access Was this I don't remember DVD you stumbled upon I don't think we saw the butthole but as the but you know You could see that that was where the razor was headed and the guy was kind of pulling his ass cheeks apart But I don't think you could actually see the butthole

But you saw the hand get closer and closer to what you know because you know where the butthole is But the best part is as it keeps getting closer and dare by this point Darren and I are like You're sitting forward in our seat like it's a fucking action movie. We're like we're like oh my god He's like we're like he's getting really close to this guy's butthole And and then you just you just see at certain point. You just see the butt as It gets really close to the butthole. You see the razor and The and all of a sudden you hear you just hear a guy go. Ah And the butt just moves a little bit. So he got

They're like oh he nicked his butthole. He nicked his butthole with the thing I don't remember past that point. I think Darren and I turned it off that boy were like I've seen enough Yeah, there's like a weird song on the Robin Bird show too. It was right. Oh, baby. Let me bang your box Since I was a little girl That's just Baby, let me bang your box. Don't know all boxes No, but well, but but she was singing it. She was singing it she was about what she's singing it about herself And saying that she's been banging since she was a little girl since she was a little girl

See that kind of that's upsetting Well, okay, let me play that. Let me play that was advocate for a second. Okay. Let's say this I think I think it was super like sex positive I think it was it was a strange time in New York Obviously in the 70s and 80s where there's a lot of sexual repression going on, right and like in the gay community Oh, in the gay community. Yeah, and like so you have now you have this show that you can tune into and Watch something that you that you're attracted to that makes it feel a little bit less. Yeah weird. I don't know

Yeah, you're into some kinky shit. You're you're you're just I don't think anybody was like into it like very few people were like Do you remember the scene in the movie basketball diaries? Yeah, where he tries to cheer up his buddy Michael imperial Michael Imperiali is the actor who's got cancer. He's like dying, right? So he takes him to the peep show and the thing slides up and the woman's Dancing and then she's like disturbed that he looks sick and he's not enjoying it and the whole thing is it's a really dark Yeah scene That's what it felt like. That's like what that feels like to me where it's like No, it was definitely no one's enjoying it and people feel like it's like yeah, there's a there's a it's not evil I'm thinking about if I was watching it. I think you nailed that. I think that's right. It felt seedy. Yeah. Yeah, so it felt seedy

That's the right. It felt lonely. Yeah, I think Right, right. It was they felt joyless. I Don't ever remember watching it and thinking well, this is hot. No, I know it was like this is fast This is fascinating. Yes, it was fascinating your box of the catchphrase was the song I mean, I remember the song so I watched enough of it was sex positive as you say I guys I got a pee Okay, go pee or maybe what he's going to do Because he just got so around the whole story like it's like the fact that Wasn't

Seedy and that's what he gets off. He's feeling sex positive. He's feeling very positively sexy. So she came out as bisexual later In life. Yes Thank you Robin So yeah, Mary. She was paying back. Oh, yeah, she used to that was yeah She you she would the women would dance and she would like lick them Or pretend to like lick them Did you guys ever do any public access? Were you ever on public access and or the news when you were before you were on TV? Not that I know of I

Don't think so. I used to host a public access show and not in Kalamazoo really like yeah I mean my friends and I in high school as like part it was like we got credit for it at school for like a Communications class or something hosting a call-in show In Kalamazoo, Michigan on public access and it was just people calling and it was all live like broadcast live And it was just people calling in and every third person would just yell cock and then like that was it That was the show. What was your song? I don't think I don't even know if we had a theme song It was like so low rent But I hope the footage doesn't exist anywhere

This was a successful format, I don't know I think I think it'd be interesting to see how it how it would cut together Well, you know what? Let's let's have people comment on it and and see if they if they like it Yeah, that's what you want to see more of these like this where we watched where you watch us watch the show And or you watch the show with us, you know, do you want to see that you like that? You know that one more? That's not your weird thing. Yeah, what kind of creeper you're a creeper. Are you? Yeah? Yeah, what did you were you sex positive in that bathroom? I? I'm not sure I know what that means. I we were wondering if you were so aroused by the butthole story that you just needed a minute

Yeah, give me a second. Yeah, I'm remembering a time where I was more aroused than I've ever been Well I'm out of juice. I don't know about you guys. No, we got we got more in us, right? What's how much how much time have we wasted? Well, we watched the thing which took up some time, but yeah, just about done it Let's see if I have any I let's let's let's dig deep Let's find something because usually the last minute thing ends up being kind of the best thing Okay, let's see if we can dig deep and find something

Okay, I mean Deeper than your butt-shaving story. That's pretty good. I think that's gonna I don't know sometimes like a lot of stories and you guys don't enjoy it as much as I expect you to I enjoyed it I enjoyed it. I enjoyed very much I Love that story. I have just a general question about the show for you guys and meaning to ask How do you guys feel about the fact that the show is like spawned so many memes? Like in the last episode we were talking about the jobs firing off the job cannon and everything

There are so many means from the show that it's like almost his own internet language. Yes, I okay So so I've seen a lot of it's always sending memes out there But I didn't know if that was because people were sending them to me because I'm on the show or If that was because they're really as ubiquitous as as ubiquitous It doesn't mean anything to me see how he's the word meme. Yeah, it's memeing less I'm always interested to see what what catches on and what doesn't so if I see a meme for something Um, it kind of extends into the episodes to where where we make something and we go, oh people are really gonna enjoy this one We think that we think that the audience our audience understands as a beloved and maybe it's like a shrug

And then we'll make something and think I don't know that one. It's fine Yeah, the biggest example that's coming up where we where we put the night We thought that we completely screwed up that Not the night man come with musical but the first time we sang the night man's hall Oh, yeah, so together we hated it so much. Yeah. Yeah, we just stuck it at the very end. We're like, you know what? No, but the meme thing. I mean, it's I mean, I it's it's cool. I like it. I mean, I find it very I don't know. I'm pleased that we've made an impact

I see that one of I'm playing both sides So I always come out on top people post that like all the time when there's like a news story or something like a Pastor who preaches against homosexuality having like a gay lover. Yeah Yeah, I don't know what our impact is. It's very hard to Feel from the inside, right? Like sometimes you feel like the show is giant and has reached everyone And then sometimes you feel like now we're we have our sort of niche audience and we sort of exist outside the Like Geister Culture in general like I don't know. It's both frustrating and also

I like so it's frustrating at times to to feel like you're not getting sort of wide recognition But at the same time like when I think about most of most of the artists You know actors bands musicians that I've liked the most have occupied this same space You know a space where it's like they make they make a very specific kind of thing for a certain type of listener or viewer and It's it's almost like because authenticity is so important to me and in artistry that like It's a sign of authenticity to me, you know when so it makes me feel like When something's too popular, I I worry that it's that they're pandering

You know and it turns me off You know, but there are plenty of examples of like huge bands that are some of my favorites of all time like Pink Floyd and Radiohead, I mean those bands are huge, but I wouldn't say that they've ever those guys ever pandered So I'm going against what I said, but I think that the fear playing both sides so that you can so that I always come out on top Yeah, I don't know but memes Like I don't like I don't think about it at all. Do you think about it? I don't think about it Seem a good me. I don't know. I like it. I say it makes me laugh. I'm interested in your posture Haha, I'm tired. Yeah. Yeah, are you tired? No, you're not steam

You know, I got sleep like midnight and then the fucking I mean we wrote this in in the show But like there's always something beeping and one of the fire alarms in my house started just beeping that the battery was low I had like five in the morning. What else has been beeping in your house the fucking smoke detectors I gotta go around rip the goddamn smoke detector out of the wall, then I got the wrong one and then the ladder's missing Big house problem the fucking big house problem We're small man problems. I got a small man big house I don't know. What up? What else? I don't know. I listen. I tried I tried to pull something out of you guys

God bless Oh, yeah, we got a place out Charlie place out, buddy Let's let's write a quick musical about shaving buttholes. Yeah What do you think Figure out baby, let me bang your box. Oh, no, I can't remember it baby Like two courts Robin Bird's gonna come after us You know, that's how she sounds now, right? Yeah I don't know. I don't know that that's how she sounds, but she's a TV show in 1970 something

But she's only 40 years old. What was it? You think you could just steal my theme song and get away with it. I wasn't gonna come after you Well, now she will your ass is why Well, actually it's a it's Hoboken. It's a basement in Hoboken. Maybe let me bang your box. I got this They shave my butthole They got too close They nicked it a little bit You say it's gross

All right, bye everybody