The Always Sunny Podcast - The Gang Gets Invincible

Episode Date: February 28, 2022

Let’s get Glenn some compliments over here.

Guys, can we talk about hats? We're all wearing hats. We are. Yeah. What are you advertising? I don't know. I don't know. I'm not advertising. I'm showing support. That was a dig. That was a dig. Me? Yeah. That was a dig. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

I'm showing support. Yeah. No, that's good. It's smart. Yeah, I have a question about hats. I've been wearing, I think the listener would find or the watcher would find this more interesting than the episode. I know I do. I don't know. Just general conversation about things like hats.

Then the sunny episode? Yeah. The sunny episode is hilarious. I'm not commenting on that. We'll get into that. Yeah, I just don't... Talking about... I've noticed that I'm having the most fun when we're just talking about hats or things of that nature. Of that nature, yeah, yeah.

I like the balance. There's a good balance. Because I do like when we start going in depth in terms of what we were thinking about, why we made a choice that we made. I think that's interesting for the listener or watcher at home. This is why the show works. I have an idea. You're like, I don't like that. Let's do this other thing.

And you're like, I see validity in both of those. Let's just see how it goes. And then we just kind of find a happy medium. Yeah, but that's what I just said. I said, I see validity in both. Hold on a second, though. You indicated to him. But that's because we've had this conversation before

and that's something I've said to you. No, what about hats? What about... My whole life I've worn hats, but I've turned the bill the way that yours is. And so I started seeing people wearing the flat bill and I thought, I don't know. I don't know if I can pull that off.

But I do think it looks cool. I see Charlie wears... He's not wearing one today, really. He can do it either way. But he can go either way. He goes the flat and I think it looks pretty cool. Now, I don't know if it looks cool because it seems like we're like 25-year-olds

trying to look... Is it sad maybe that a 44-year-old is going to wear a flat brim hat seems like a young person's game? I'm not sure, but I do like this hat. Is this the question? Are you wondering? Yeah, I'm wondering.

Can I pull off? Because I've now noticed that I've gone out and bought a couple of flat bill hats and I enjoy them. Can you take your headphones off for a second? I like the flat bill hat. I think it's a head-shaped thing. I think it looks good.

I like both. I can't do it. My head is very oval-shaped. So when I do the flat brim thing, the whole thing is too round so it presses into my temple. I can't do that. Can I see this on you?

Sure. Let's see. I'm going to help blend that because there's one hand. Caitlin says the same thing and then she'll put on a hat like that and it looks cool. This is... Okay.

See, that looks cool to me. Now, he can do either way. You can do either way. You can make that work. I think the thing with fashion in general, it's just about the confidence of the choice. You're going all the way in. Look at my man, Jonah Hill, out there.

Yes. Wearing whatever the hell he wants. Yeah. And by the way, it looks great. He looks great. The more sort of... Yeah. Sorry, he needs help.

Yeah. Sorry. Now, Glenn, I think you can wear that flat brim hat all day. In fact, I think it looks really good. The flat... You like the flat brim? Okay. I kind of wish you would take in a picture.

Yeah. I don't know. It's never... That actually... Maybe the trick is that I'm trying to... Maybe I'm making the hat too tight because that was a little loose on me and that felt good.

But then that always feels goofy to me because it seems like there's too much room on the outside. Too much space inside here. And then... You know what I don't have confidence to do, but I think they look great, is like the full-on like Bob Dylan, sort of like half cowboy, half fedora hat, you know?

Like the real hipster-y kind of just like... Strongest that whatever hat choice you make, you pull off. Sunglasses and hats. They all look good on you. Well, you know, I think it's just... The hat itself looks good, right? And so I just chose to wear it. You know what I mean?

I think that's what I was saying. It's like a head shape thing. Yeah, I think you've got a head and a good face shape for glasses and sunglasses. I don't know. I don't know. I'm sure there's plenty of hats and sunglasses that would not look great.

I'm noticing that there's a trend that there's a lot of compliments being thrown Charlie's way on this podcast. Let's get Glenn some compliments over here. No, no, no. That's not what I'm asking for. That's not what I'm asking for. Like yesterday, you guys were saying

that I was very athletic and I was thinking, you guys are athletic? There's something, you know, I don't know. Yeah, you're just... It's just something I've noticed. It's okay. Okay. As you were.

You know, I'm a jack of all trades and hats. And, you know... Hats, athletics, sunglasses... Athletics, but you dabble in a million things. A million more than I do. I feel like I get very, very good at like a couple things versus you do... Yeah, I'm bad with that.

Yes, I do a lot of things not that way. Average. Yes. Like I'm kind of okay. Like a true dilettante. I think is the term. It is? Yeah, yeah.

I don't know what that word is. I've heard that word, Brian. If I'm being honest, I don't know what it is. It's like somebody who has a lot of like passions but isn't serious about any of them. Yeah, that's just that. Dilettante. That sounds right.

I'm very serious in the moment. And then I'm done for the day and I'm like, great, I'll do that tomorrow and then I don't. But then I pick it back up two weeks later and I'm like, not that good. But I keep going. I don't think you are that.

I think you really learn and get into things and know a lot of stuff. And Glenn, I love your hat. Thank you. Should we talk about this episode? Sure. I thought it was pretty fun. I don't remember this being the second episode

of the third season. I don't know why. But for some reason this episode. Because we shot it much later. Did we? I think we liked it and pulled it up or something. Well, a lot of the scenes were shot in Philly.

Yeah. For sure. And that was the end. Which was at the end of our shooting schedule usually. So yeah. Did you guys notice something that... So we have a thing now or we have a thing then when we would have like two or three scenes

before the episode started. And we just started doing that. Instead of one single scene. So there's like two scenes. There's the scene in the bar where we're all arguing like crazy and Charlie screams. Then we go outside.

Yeah. Right? Then we come back for essentially a third scene. After... Back at the bar. Back at the bar where we're actually talking about what we're going to do. And we then at some point just skip past that

and now we just have somebody come in in the cold open and say, okay, the episode's about to start. Because we're going to go try out for the Eagles. But you don't know that we're going to try out for the Eagles for very long time. Yeah. For longer than we would think.

And it's unnecessary. Is that arguing... Was that a sort of self-aware meta? Yes. Like answer to like a criticism of the show. Isn't it funny that we like... Like 8, 10, 15 episodes into doing our show or like, well, we better comment on what we're doing.

Yeah. Just self-reflecting constantly. But I do appreciate that we double down. So people are like, ah, it's the show where they just yell at each other. It's so annoying. And we're like, you know what? Let's start an episode where we're screaming

at the top of our lungs. Let's acknowledge it and then keep doing it. And lean into it. And really lean into it. Yeah. One little thing I completely forgotten about this episode, which I enjoyed so much, was the capes.

Oh, yeah. People were trying to wear capes. And I had no recollection of the guy with the lunchbox. Yeah, he was great. Whose mom made his cape. On the bus. Who was fucking great. Yeah.

Yeah. Who was that guy? He's an actor. I don't know. He killed me. He killed me. And when... I'm just talking about the things I like.

This is not really interesting. Philip Newby. Philip Newby. Philip Newby? Yes. A Nebish guy. It's a... I'm assuming was that guy.

I remember him being... Now, maybe I'm wrong. Can you look it up, Megan? If not, we'll cut that, cut that, cut that. I think he was legally blind. Yeah, I think so. I remember him saying like on day one, he's like, I can't really see.

And we were like, right, well, you should definitely come join us. Like, that's such a fun character trait for someone trying out for the Eagles. Yeah, right. To not be able to see. And it was so funny. Whose mom made him a cape.

His love is hilarious in the episode. Amazing. Do you guys remember Phazon? Every time I see Phazon in something, I'm like, why is this guy not a massive movie star? I know why. Yeah, I think I know why too, maybe. I don't know if this trend, like,

you know, like sort of carries through his entire acting career. But I'd sure you guys remember this. The very first day that we shot with him, it's not the first scene that we see him in because that was actually in Philly. So that was much later. The very first scene that we shot,

I believe, was the scene where he calls us all over and, you know, gives us the speech right before he introduces Donovan McNabb. The speech was so long. It was like a page and a half, and it was really funny. I remember it was really funny. We were really looking forward to seeing it. We spent a lot of time crafting this really funny,

like, speech that he gives to everybody. And Phazon, so the way we do things, and not a lot of shows do this, but what we always do is the very first thing we do is we just read the scene. We get together with all the actors that are in the scene. We've got what's called sides, which is just a small version of the scene in script form.

And we just read it first before we block it. Well, so we show up to do this scene. We're outside. We've all got our sides, and we're all standing around. Except I noticed that Phazon didn't have his sides. And I was like, oh, wow. This guy's like a pro. He's off book, as they say in the industry.

He's already off book, and normally you're not off book by that time. But I was like, man, it's a big speech. That's a big speech. He didn't memorize that yet. He must have really memorized it. It's a Monday morning. He took the whole weekend. Right, exactly. So we show up.

We gather around for rehearsal. Phazon's there. We're all looking around, and Savage calls action. He's like, action. Nobody says anything. And we're like, oh, Phazon, that's you. And he's like, oh. And we're like, go.

And he's like, does anybody have any sides? He's like, what do you want me to say? What do you want me to say? So not only did he not... He didn't read it. Right. He didn't even read it. Not entirely certain he read the script.

Oh, he definitely didn't read the script. You know. No way. He showed up to the rehearsal, not knowing his lines, and didn't even have the sides to prompt his lines. To be very clear, it's not a rehearsal like a week before you film.

The rehearsal is just right before you say action and actually roll the camera. Pretty much. Yeah, you've got maybe 15 minutes between the time you rehearse. Yeah, the 15 minutes, they light it, and then you're shooting it. You want to fix your hair and adjust your shirt,

and then make sure your microphone's in your shirt. And we're like, oh, no. Oh, no. This guy's got a page and a half long speech. He's like, we're screwed. And he, when we were, and he didn't know it, and he just improvised a bunch of stuff,

and we cut it, you know, down to that little short thing that's in the thing. Yes. That's in the episode. Yeah. God bless him. And it totally worked. I mean, that's the thing is like,

I think that he's, and also he's so lovable and fun, and he was really cool. It wasn't like he was coming in to be a dick. No. He was just like, I don't know. This is the way I do it. I guess there was also a conception

that we were an improv show. Yeah. I think people thought we were just like, here's the scenario, let's make up a scene. Yeah. Which we were definitely not. By the way, that would be really funny if he thought that. Did we hire him?

We just made an offer to him. We just made an offer. Yeah. We'd seen the movie made. Yeah, an elf. I mean, an elf. He's so fun. And we're like, this guy's great.

And it turns out, yeah, he's one of the funniest parts of the episode. He's amazing. I mean, it absolutely works. He's just doing his own thing. And we were like, great. There is oftentimes a thing where like, we scripted a whole thing and you do realize,

oh, I don't need any of these words. I just need the essence of what these words are trying to get after. Which he's sort of embodied, which is just like, I just need the energy. Right. And the intention. And one sentence can cover this entire speech.

By the way, by the time he introduces Donovic Madan. And Jeffrey comes out and does that commercial. I mean, I was crying tears. Yes, Jeffrey. Laughing. Amazing. I mean, that's why we've used Jeffrey year after year

after year. And across shows, I mean, I've used them a mythic quest a number of times. We put them in a pilot years ago. Yep. We've had him play multiple characters on, on It's Always Sunny, although always as Jeffrey Owens

or this mysterious man who we don't know. He's also played Tiger Woods. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. He's played Don Cheadle. But it's always the same actor who presumably is Jeffrey Owens, although he never fesses up to that either.

Yes. Because he never fesses up to actually having been, what was his name? Well, Elvin on the Cosby Show. But one other thing I wanted to bring up about Phazon, I'm sure you guys remember that. Of course you do, because we've joked about it many times.

The man could not say the words Donovan McNabb. Yeah. Donna John the Crab. Don, Donnie and the Crab. Donnie and the Crab. Donnie and the Crab. Donnie and the Crab. No, not a big football fan, I think, Phazon.

Why? I guess not. Yeah. I guess not. But just, by the way, that is a difficult name to say. Donovan McNabb. Not that hard.

I'm on pain medication though, so I have an excuse. It's just a name. Donovan McNabb. Yeah, yeah, slow it down if you need to. Yeah. But he would just, if you watch the episode, please watch the episode and watch how he pronounces it, because he never got it right once.

We could go back and get the, we could get the outtakes it might be worth like putting that out there. Yeah. Because I don't think we put it on like a reel or whatever. No. He can call them Donnie John Crab, McCrab. Donnie John McCrab, Donovan McNabb.

I think in the episode he calls them Donovan McNabb. Donovan McNabb. Donovan McNabb. We used the best one. It's just a bunch of M's. We got the best one. Yeah. The one that was the closest.

But it doesn't matter. It's still so funny. It just doesn't matter. It's kind of better that he doesn't say the real name. Of course. Because then it's sort of, it's almost implied that he's like, not legally allowed to call this man Donovan McNabb,

because he's not Donovan McNabb. Right. So he's gonna dance around it? Yeah. One thing we do in this episode that we then go on to do a number of times, and we've kind of gotten away from it, I think in probably in a good way, because it dates the episode in a weird,

in a weird way where we are referencing like popular culture, like movies that had come out. Yeah. We've been talking about invincible. Yeah. And yet like, you know, the way that movies kind of come and go. Yeah.

Nobody knows that movie anymore, but our, since the shows continued on, people might go back and watch these episodes, and you have no idea what we're really talking about. It's pretty funny that we're talking about it as the new kids on the block movie. Yeah, that's true. I do like that.

I do like that. And not only do we, not only do we refer to it as that, but Phazon refers to it. Yeah. Because of the new kids on the block movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right.

That's why they're having to do it. You don't want to do it. Yeah. They got badgered into it. Because that was the plot of the movie, right? You know, try out and then. Was that based on, that was based on a real thing right now.

Yeah, yeah. Vince Papali. I admit, I never, I actually never saw that movie. Yeah. Not even when we were writing the episode, I didn't even watch it. I should have.

I just didn't. It's rocky in a football. But it was based on a real story? Yeah. Okay. So do you know the story? I do, but it's not as, it's not as,

the guy Vince Papali was a player, was like a track star. So it wasn't like some like rando guy from the neighborhood. He was just older. And then it turns out he was like, can you believe it? He was 31 years old.

But I mean, was there, did the Eagles hold a tryout? Yeah. They do that. Oh, they do that? Yeah. Every NFL team still continues to do a version of that.

Did just fucking rando. The whole like open, open tryouts. Yeah. They're like just in case, you know, there's a farm somewhere and there's a dude working in the barn

and he's seven, seven, three, eighty. And he, he's the fastest runner in the world. He's just hoping that that guy shows up. He was just too stupid to realize

that football existed because he was kept on. Well, he had a strict, he had a strict daddy, right? And he was like, I know you can play football, but we need you here on the farm. And then football daddy.

Enough about football. His daddy played football, but he didn't make the, the Cowboys and he was heartbroken. And he's like, I just, and then when the sun makes the team, he was just like,

I just didn't want you to go through the heartbreak son, you know, but then, but then the guy makes the team, but then his heart explodes at 28 years old. Yeah.

Cause he has thyroid problem. Right. Cause he's seven foot seven. I mean, didn't we just establish that? I'm going along with what you said. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. He's got a thyroid issue. Vincent Papalius. Yeah. Vince Papalia. Papalia. Oh no.

Mixing up with Lucas. Do you remember the refrigerator, Perry? Of course. He played for the Bears, but then also the Eagles. Did he play for the Eagles? Yes.

I remember him on the Bears. Yes. Yeah. He scored over everyone. I remember the, he scored like a huge touchdown that, that one in the Super Bowl, in the Super Bowl.

The Patriots versus the, the Chicago Bears. Yeah. And the Pats lost like, it was like 60 to three or something. 46-10 or something like that. Oh Lord. No, it was like 60 to three.

Look up what that was. What was that? It was a beat down. Patriots, Bears, Super Bowl. 1986. 1985.

1985. Season 86. Wow. I mean, look at it. 46-10. 46-10. 46-10. Wait.

I have a weird thing for that. I feel like that's what you said. I remember like football scores and things. I feel like that's exactly what you said. I dramatized it. You sure did. Well, because it was a beat down, it was a beat down.

I think that it was actually worse than the score. Yeah. Like I think they kind of let them score at the end. They just didn't care. I just gave up. Ouch. Yeah. You know what we gave up on?

Completely forgot about the character of Doyle McPoyle. Yeah. I did not remember there was a Doyle McPoyle. Yeah, there's a Doyle. Maybe he died from that bullet wound. I was laughing so hard at you laughing, because this is all happening in the moment where they're just walking out of the RV

and you're commenting on each one of them as they come down, and you're seeing them for the first time in real life. Oh, no. That was all I had to buy. I was literally laughing as he's doing it, but it just works. It works as the character, yeah. Yeah.

You're out here. You're in the world. You're in the world. That's the size of it. Oh, good. You brought your fife. What is that a jar of? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. What is that a jar of? Yeah. But once again, the props department doing like an amazing job of like putting together a group of weird things, and then you're not seeing them until you're seeing them for the first time. Yeah. Even just the coverage of that though,

I kind of was like, oh, right, we really stopped down to see all those people come out. Yeah. Which I feel like maybe we want to do now, but maybe we would. Did we play the Hawaiian, the McPoyle Hawaiian theme song? Yeah. Yeah. Every time, pretty much every time we see the McPoyles.

Yeah. We play this, this like Hawaiian cowboy. Hawaiian country. Yeah. Hawaiian cowboy. Is that the name of the song? Hawaiian cowboy. I feel like it was something like that.

Maybe it was just like, it was a, you know, there was this library of cheap music that we could use, and it was probably listed as Hawaiian cowboy or something like that. Yeah. Let's talk about that for a second, because our music, which we love and have been using from day one, we've never had the money to license it and keep it ours, like to write music and then to have it be like owned by the show.

So there's a company that owns this library and they just license it out to anybody and everybody. Yeah. So like there was a year where Madden, the Madden football game, the sunny theme was there, was the Madden theme. And right now on Minecraft, I hear sunny music in the background of my house.

I'm like, what's going on? Are my kids watching sunny? It's on Minecraft videos. They're using sunny music on Minecraft videos. Yeah. Oh, weird. Yeah. And it's a very heavily used catwalk.

You're hearing commercials all the time. Yeah. It used to upset me because I'd be like, oh man, dang it. Why didn't we just like have a theme song that was just ours, you know, but I think maybe it ended up working in our favor because it, like every time those songs play, people think of sunny. Eventually, yeah.

Yeah. Eventually that happened. It's like free advertising. It's like free advertising. If there's an association with the show. Yeah. But like Madden is way bigger than sunny. So people would be like.

No. Steve Madden, like the first company, like what are you talking about? The shoe guy? Steve. What are you talking about? No, you're absolutely right. That game's way bigger than sunny for sure.

Yeah. So people would be like, oh, that's the music. I don't know. But it was always funny to me that like, like look around all the shows that you watch and know, you're like, oh no, they didn't use that theme song on a tied commercial. No.

Ours is the only one. Yeah. The only one where they're like, oh, cheers. Well, literally they now are using the cheers song on a commercial. Yeah. What did I see that on? That must have cost them a fortune. Seriously.

To pay Paramount. A fortune. Who wrote that theme song? Who wrote the theme song to cheers? It's a good theme song. The Golden Girls one is really amazing. It's incredible. And that guy was like, it was, he was just like a pop artist.

Yeah. And his version of it is strange. Like the woman singing it is much cooler. Thank you for being the friend. Gary Portnoy. Gary Portnoy is cheers. Is cheers. Is he also Golden Girls?

He might be. It might be the same guy. Or maybe it's Andrew. Yeah. I don't think so. It's some pop guy. Yeah. So you're saying the guy who did the Golden Girls theme song, he has a version of that

song. His version of that song is not. Well, it's him singing it. What's the name of the song? Thank you for being a friend. Thank you for being a friend. Andrew Gold. Andrew Gold.

It's. It's in his name. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Okay. It took him about an hour to write. Yeah.

It always does. It always does. Now. That was the cocaine. I'm going to get out of this. Because I know I told you guys this story before, but there was a time where I sat next to the drummer for the band's survivor on a flight, right? And I got to chatting with this guy, super nice guy.

Looked like one of those guys was like, oh, you're still rocking like the 80s hair band look, but you're liking your late 50s, you know, but whatever. Anyway, the guy was super nice. And he actually told me the story of how he, how the band survivor wrote the song, I Have the Tiger for Rocky three, I believe it was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So, uh, Stallone had actually called the lead singer of survivor and left him a voicemail and he was like, you know, Beep. Hey, uh, this is, uh, this is sliced alone and, uh, I really like your music and I'd love for you to write the theme song to the new Rocky movie that I'm doing, right? So this guy gets the message, uh, gets the voicemail and he's like, I asked my buddy like fucking with me. You know what I mean? So he doesn't, he pays no attention to it, gets a call, gets another voicemail like a

couple of weeks later. Hey. What's going on? You know what it is? It's sliced along. I really want to use it. You know. I know.

I feel like this collaboration could be a real knockout. Um, so, but again, he just thinks it's like, you know, his friends like fucking with him. So he doesn't, he doesn't call the guy back. Um, then he gets a call from his agent. His agent's like, dude, what are you doing? You know, or his booking agent or manager or whoever is like, sliced alone is like trying to get in touch with you. He wants you guys to write the new theme song.

He's like, oh, shit, that's real. So, so then he gets on the phone with Stallone, Stallone's like, you know, basically tell them, uh, I need a theme song for my, for Rocky three, I think you guys are perfect for it. I'd like for you guys to write one. But here's what I need. I need you to write two songs because you know, what if I like one over the other? I need you to write two songs.

We'll pay you to write two songs. So these guys get in the studio, they spent about two weeks crafting the most epic song ever, right? And then they get to the very end of it. They realized like two o'clock in the morning and they've got to turn in both songs the next day to Sly Stallone and listen, when you tell Sly Stallone, you're, you know, you're hitting a deadline. You better hit it.

Cause Sly's going to come after you. You know what I mean? With the expendables, uh, so they, they realized they're like, oh, shit, we have to write like a second song. They're like, oh, we'll just bang something out real quick. And over the course of the next like hour or so, they just like wrote Eye of the Tiger and just did either tie in like an hour or like two hours and they're like, all right, let's go to bed.

That's, at least we'll give them two, but clearly the other one is better. He played, and of course, you know, you know, the rest of that is they played either, uh, both the songs and, and Sly loved Eye of the Tiger and they were like, what? We were just fucking around. Like that was, you know, and then the other song he ended up using, I believe in the movie Fist. Fist? Yeah.

He did a movie called Fist. He did? Yeah. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Man likes the theme.

Yeah. What was that about? I'm nervous. Yeah. Don't, man. Don't Google that. Because this is all work. It's an acronym.

F-I-S-T. Yeah. Yeah. It was an acronym. Yeah. Neo-Noir crime drama. Weird. Yeah.

So I believe he used that other survivor song in the movie. Fist. I don't know what that's. What song that was? Uh, I don't know, actually. I don't know. Anyway, the guy from Survivor was very nice, the drummer. I liked him.

He told some good stories. That's the only one I remember. Do you want to tell one of the good ones? Listen, man. He's got a lot of pain pills. Come on, man. I'm on a lot of pain pills right now. I'm not thinking straight.

What do you got? Yeah. What do you got? Tell us a good story. I am curious to know, like, if you guys, I know, you've done acid before, right? Do you not want to talk about this? No, yeah. Okay.

Have you done acid? Yes. You did acid? Uh-huh. When did you do acid? Like right after high school. Just once? Twice.

You did it? We've done it twice. Yeah. Okay. What were the circumstances? And do you have any funny stories surrounding that? Yeah. Because it's a fun drama.

No. What was the name of the, why am I blanking on the name of the music series that was big when we were, I keep thinking, Lollapalooza. Oh, yeah. The music series. Well, my mind went to Coachella and I couldn't get it out of my head, but yeah, Lollapalooza. Yeah. I did some acid with Lollapalooza.

Yeah. Is that fun? No. What year? No. No. The 1996? 1996.

It was the Beastie Boys? No, that was 94. Oh, so I was in high school. That was 94 because I was at that Lollapalooza. Probably not the same one. I went to the one in Atlanta. Yeah. I don't think you came to Philly.

No. Yeah. No. I mean, it's just not for me. No, it's not your thing. I might maybe try it again later when my kids are older and I can get in like, I want to break through the matrix and see what's on the other side kind of thing. You know what I mean?

I think I want to go on a guided one at this point. Yeah. Right? Like do it. I want to see the destruction of my ego before my very eyes. Yes. I don't want to just, you know, take like three tabs of acid and drink 16 course lights and then throw up.

You were also probably like, yeah, you're fighting it. You know what I mean? Like when it kicks in, you got to lean into it, you know? When you start fighting it, you know, that's when the fear kicks up. Yeah. When the fear gets in, then you fight in the fear. That doesn't stop for 12, 13, 15 hours. Sounds like how much you took.

Yeah. Or years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately. I think you had, you've had some good trips. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You were at a fish concert? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh he was, you are a big- Yeah.

Yeah. What? We were at the Clifford Ball. Oh yeah. He was a jam band guy. Oh yeah. I was there with me and Mappals and oh man, it's so like, we were so low rent. Like we went with this other group of kids and they like, they were like kind of rich kids.

They had a Volvo. They had like a nice like tents and shit. We had like a tarp. And then we were like, hey, we're going to try to make a little tent out of this tarp. Can we use your frying pan? They were like making like pancakes and shit. And we like fucking, hey, totally fucked this kid's frying pan up,

trying to like- Hand steaks. We didn't mean to, like, I'm so sorry, dude, I ruined you a nice frying pan. And then we got our hands on like an extraordinary amount of very powerful mushrooms and ate way too many of them. I remember, I remember passing out, like within the first five minutes, throwing up.

And then like, when I came to, I was already tripping a thousand times harder than I already had. And this was within the first 30 minutes. So I was like, okay, this is going to be quite a ride. And I remember just trying to like hang onto my sanity for my dear life. Like at one point we're in the concert, you know,

and we're just kind of like sitting on the lawn. And all of a sudden like, everyone turns around. They're looking like right at us. And we're like- That's- Why? Why is this happening? What the fuck is happening?

Only to realize there's like a marching band like moving like robots. Oh, we don't realize what's going on. I remember another one of my buddies said like, he's like, man, the cutest girl came up to you and asked you for a cigarette. And all you said was like, yeah, I'm all about it. Yeah, I'm all about it.

I'm just going to go on and off, you know. But mostly it was good. And then I don't know. I think I would do it again once I got through this parenting phase in my life. And my kid was- I would hate for the fear to kick in and be like, oh, shit, I've compromised my brain

and I got a kid out there. But I do think, I don't know. I think it's like something everyone should do a little bit of. I kind of do too, actually. I think under the right circumstances, I think it can be a very, very eye-opening experience. I mean, like-

You've done the ayahuasca. You've done a lot of psychedelics, right? Yeah. You had to think about that. Which is interesting. Well, no, because I haven't done like an ayahuasca ceremony. I did a ceremony with a shaman and a bunch of other people and took something that was actually a combination

of ayahuasca and psilocybin. So, but it wasn't like a super high dose. So I wasn't like tripping balls because it was my first ceremony. But weren't you doing one of those things, which sounds awesome and also disgusting and terrible at the same time, where you were like shitting in a bucket and then throwing up and then also,

oh, it wasn't one of those? No. Because I know people have gone through that. We're like, no, man, it's awesome. You go through like this guided tour in your house and like your shit, your brains up, but you got a bucket, so you do it into the bucket. And then you also vomit.

I'm like, okay, where's the good part? Oh, very spiritual. It's super spiritual. Like you really like see, you know, what's inside of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because it's now in a bucket. Rob. Charlie.

I don't feel creatively good about the episode where we talk about Invincible. I feel creatively good about the episode that aired in 2002 or whatever that was. But I don't like, I felt like the podcast version wasn't. We did it. We got about half. I was listening to a little bit of it

and I just don't think it was very good. I think it was boring and I want to blame it on Glenn. Well, no, that's not true. I want to blame it on Glenn. I want to blame it on Glenn's busted collarbone. Well, yeah, I mean, I want to, I got three options, right? I can blame it on me. I don't want to do that.

No. I can blame it on you, but you're here. I'm here, yeah. But Glenn is left and he's not here. So I could blame it on Glenn. Yeah, Glenn's not here. I think we should blame it on Glenn. And to be a good friend, I could say, well,

he was on pain meds for his broken collarbone. So we could blame it on that. Yeah. I think that's, I think that's, I think that's fair. So here we are and it's a different day and we're wearing different clothes and we're talking about the thing that we were talking about.

But most importantly, Glenn isn't here just to be clear for the people who aren't watching the show. Glenn's not here. He has a thing. He can't even be here. So we're going to have somebody who's going to call in who's going to take his place. Well, we're getting a call.

We're getting a call. Are we getting a call? Yes. All right. Welcome to the Always Sunny podcast. You're on with Robin Charlie. Hello. Hello.

Well, here's the thing, special collar. So we were talking about this episode. The gang gets invincible. It's one where the gang tries out for the Philadelphia Eagles that happened in season three. And we just we didn't do a good job. The podcast wasn't funny. Now we've gotten rid of Glenn.

He's he's he had to go somewhere. He couldn't stick around. But we thought we'd take this special call. You guys, I really, I really appreciate it. I'm happy that your voice is so loud. Can you turn her down in my headphones? Is that not so shrieky in your ears? You guys, do you want me to come in?

Because no very last minute, I'm happy to come in. I hear that you're recording now. So how far are you that way? Are you close by? I don't know where you are. And I'm not really coming in. So just meant to be funny. I don't have any plans to pop by.

Guys, this is really hard. I feel good. It feels very last minute, but I'll still I'll take it. I'll take advantage of it. Let's let's tell the listener at home or the watcher in their in their probably home or office who we have in the line here. If you have you haven't guessed the voice.

And I and I have it and I have it. Who is this? You guys, it's the star of your television show. The only woman, the one and only the big bird herself. And I'm here and I'm happy to be here. It does feel like a bit of an afterthought, but that's okay. I'll let it go.

I've been waiting a long time for this. Thank you for having me. It is most definitely an afterthought. It's television's Katelyn Olson. It's television's Katelyn Olson. Katelyn, do you remember being in this episode? Do you remember being in the show at all? I remember I remember moments.

Listen, this is the episode where I dressed up. What was my name? Cole. Cole, Cole, right? And as soon as we got me all dressed up, I turned around and looked in the mirror and I was like, oh, you've made me look like David Hornsby. Yeah, you did come across looking like Hornsby.

Cricket for the people at home who don't know him by the first name. Yes, that happens when you put a goatee on me and take away my hair. I look exactly like David Hornsby. Well, one of the good things about having you on for the first time is maybe we could even go back to the beginning of the show. We don't have to talk about invincible. We could talk about the beginning. What was your experience auditioning for the show?

Because I think the first few episodes, we got some good feedback that people like to hear some of those stories from the beginning. Yeah, the first few episodes were stinkers for me because you guys had already written them. And you did a great job of writing for your characters, which is why I wanted to do the show in the first place because it was so well written. But not such a great job for Dee because she was kind of a wet blanket.

There was a lot of like, you guys, you got to stop having fun. We covered all this. Now, listen, we covered this on the podcast, but you are listening to the podcast. I know, but you don't listen to the podcast, which you don't support me. You don't support my... What about the first... What about the very first time you came into the audition room?

What do you remember from that experience? Did you instantly love, right? Do you even remember Rob in the room? No, so what I do remember is as soon as I got in my car, I called my manager because I thought it was such a good... I wanted it so bad. And I was like, I think that was really good. And she goes, were any of them cute?

And I was like, not really. Good, good. It was not love at first sight. I really fell in love with Rob's ego, I think, during the first season. Yeah, yeah, a lot of confidence in that Mackleheadie. He was in control. Yeah, yeah, I felt safe, you know what I mean? Like somebody was in charge and funny.

So I found it too attractive. Now I am. Now I find him very handsome. And only 17 years. Yeah, really, to get to that place. It's a long time. It's a long time. But I walked into the room and I...

Instantly, all of you were in there and you were all participating and laughing and like... Just having fun and encouraging me to have fun with it. And I remember thinking this is the best audition experience ever because they usually are absolutely terrible. Well, I think a lot of that had to do with the fact that we were actors and we were compassionate to how shitty that situation normally is. And then also you were awesome. So it was really fun.

Yeah, we were laughing because you were funny. Yeah, oh, you're sweet. I was having fun. And then I remember Rob saying, okay, just put the script down and just improvise. Do the scene with Charlie, but just you guys say whatever you want. And that was like, wow, it was super fun. Are you calling us? Are you in your car?

Yeah. Where are you? I'm outside. Oh, you're outside. But are you pulled over talking to us? Or are you like on route? I'm on route. I'm driving.

I'm being safe. Are you worried about my safety? I'm being very safe, Charlie. What is this? Yeah, where were you heading? Tell us about your day. I just tried to paint the picture. Yeah, paint the picture here.

Trying to get the big picture here for the people at home. Let's get them all the information. I took one son to school. She took the other. And then what happened? I came to work. No, I don't know where you went. Are you going somewhere for pleasure or for business?

Today, I dropped off one son. I stopped and got the coffee and then I went and got a facial. Oh, there you go. Okay. Yeah, you got to take care of that face. I got a facial and now I'm on my way to have lunch with a friend. And then I have a doctor appointment in the afternoon. And then I'm going to pick up both boys.

This is great. Thank you. Now, I know I understand this. Your schedule here. This is really good. Is there anything you want to promote or? Rob, do you get worried? Are you at the jealous type?

Are you like, no, who's the friend she's having lunch with? And is it the same person who gave her the facial? And what's happening here? Like, you know, like, you don't have a jealous mode in your body, right? I don't think so. Kaylan can speak to that. I don't really know. I don't know.

I'm being blue-collar. Well, because Kaylan had a sex scene in a movie she just shot. Oh, yeah. Yes. Yeah. I had a sex scene with Woody Harrelson in the movie. I told him all about it in great detail and he was like, cool, cool. I got to go.

He just was staring at the strap and he was like, there. Wow. You can try and make him jealous, but it doesn't. It doesn't really work. Yeah. Well, because you had a sex scene with Woody Harrelson. He wasn't, you know, like, if you had a sex scene with Brad Pitt, he would have been like, now, hang on a second.

Well, did you see that sex scene with Woody Harrelson and true detective? I mean, that was. What are you saying? Look, I'm not saying Woody Harrelson is not a sexy man, but I'm just saying you're probably. He's a very attractive man. Yeah. Yeah. Long time vegan.

Long time vegan. This is just the information I know, Kaylan. I'm just trying to fill the airtime here. I see. No, well, here's a fun fact about Rob that probably I think most people know. He's very good friends with Dax Shepard, who is sort of an ex-lover of mine. Rob, I did not know that. Well, not sort of.

I didn't know that's hardcore lovers or anything. I did not know that. You were pretty hardcore. I was trying to be, I was trying to, you know, be nice. But yeah, no, Rob and Dax are really good friends. You like men with masculinity inferiority complexes. That is so interesting. Men who appear to be confident, but are masking severe and secure.

Yeah, we're trying to prove so hard that they're a man. Yes. Exactly. But then perfectly open to talk about it with other men. That's the exciting part. That's the missing piece. So they have it all. They have it all.

They got it all. They got it all. Oh, sure. That's exactly it. Both hard and soft, you might say. Yeah, yeah. Not too hard. Not too soft.

Not too hard. Not too soft. Boys. To men. They become men. Yeah. Caitlin, is there anything about doing this episode? Do you remember being in Philly when we were shooting?

And that was like Fred Savage directing days. And him like just partying like a maniac. We had good times in Philly. I believe did Fred get, he was not arrested because it wasn't, he didn't do anything crazy. But he, I think he was pulled over by the police or the driver was pulled over by the police and because Fred was hanging out the window or the roof.

I think he just got yelled at by the car. Yeah. He climbed up the top of a limo. Why were we in a limo? I don't know. It wasn't our limo. I don't know whose limo it was. I don't know why that.

Why was Fred in it then? I don't know. Maybe it was Fred's limo. He climbed out the top of it while it was in transit and was like climbing on the back of the car. There's something that happens in Philadelphia where everyone kind of loses their minds and does things maybe they wouldn't do at home.

That's what I remember about you. Yeah, this is 12 years ago. I do remember season one filming in Philly and going to just the bar in the hotel we were in and meeting your buddy. You had somebody who- Oh, another guy she used to- Another guy that you probably used to date.

That's, that would be Ian, right? Ian, yeah. That was my ex-boyfriend, my college boyfriend. And we were drinking a lot of Yinglings. And, but I don't think you guys weren't together yet, right? No. Season one. No.

No. No. Is it fun going to Philly or is it a little bit stressful because you've got to like deal with Rob's family the whole time and you've got to be on? We don't actually see his family that much when we go because it's such a whirlwind. I love going to Philly.

Philly's got great restaurants and great people and all Rob's friends from high school are there. And I love it. We only stopped going regularly because we started having kids, right? And it just became a little bit too much of a nightmare. And because Rob would go on talk shows and tell people where we were filming

and we would get so swarmed that it felt downright dangerous. Or like- Yeah, well remember the last time we were there? We were in a van and people were- The van was moving. We were driving. And people were pounding on the windows and trying to pass like pieces of paper in for us to sign.

We were like, someone's going to get run over. This is- And then some random man showed me his penis and offered me a beer. That sounds right, yeah. Yeah. It was like one or the other, both of them, no. This is why Rob's not jealous

because it's non-stop harassment for you and he has to deal with it so much. Yeah. I mean, and- Was that random man, Danny? Can we talk about that? Was it Danny? Can we talk about the penis?

Yeah, I don't know about that, but yeah. You didn't want it out of him. No, Danny. Hey, Galen, you want a beer? Oops, I fell out. Okay, so what's your favorite episode? Oh my god. Oh, boy.

What a stupid question, man. I know, it's terrible. Galen, don't answer that. No, don't answer it. Don't answer it. Why are you doing, man, what's your favorite episode? That's the worst, and that's- Hey, you know that's the worst.

It's the worst. I have moments. I love when Charlie and I get to pair up and do things. Galen, we were- We thought we were human meat. We were just talking about this, that you and I have not- I feel like we don't have enough of those things,

and they're always so fun and funny, and we don't get to do it enough. I think next season we got a- Yeah, I feel like maybe that's why they're some of my favorites, because it just doesn't happen that often. But those are always really fun. I don't know, I just like when-

I mean, I love things like you guys drowning me in a bog almost, but you know, anything that's like crazy, those are just fun. You were a trooper to get in that bog. That was nasty, gross stuff, and you fully submerged. I'm not that much of a trooper, whatever. Please, I'm doing it because I know it's going to be hilarious. It's very selfish of me.

Yeah, you climbing- You are selfish, yeah. You climbing over Mary Elizabeth was really fucking funny. Oh, man. Now, you were pregnant through a lot of this show, right? I mean, we did a whole season where you were eight months pregnant. What's that like?

Yeah, so the P. Diddy- The P. Diddy boat dance with the inflatable guy that kind of blew up and got famous. I was- I just remember being angry the whole time. First of all, we were in Long Beach, and it wasn't at like two o'clock in the morning. It was cold, yeah.

And I was- I was so hell bent on moving my body with the way that that thing was moving, and I was pissed off because secretly I was six months pregnant, and I couldn't bend backwards as far as I wanted to and like snap myself back up. And I was sort of the whole time just being angry. Like, this isn't working.

This isn't working. I have my stupid baby in there ruining everything. Yeah. This is all tracking. This is all tracking. It's sort of like when- for the viewer and listener out there who doesn't know that when Caitlyn

in one of my favorite moments of the show, she leaves the shoe sales- the shoe store and she falls into the car and she bangs her head. That is her, and that's a real car and a real dent. And she said, I'm doing this. Yeah. Not only that, and then you did one take.

It was amazing. We were like, oh my God, she broke her neck, but you were okay. You were okay. And then we said, look, don't do another take. We'll get one for safety. We'll have the stunt person do it. She's here to do it.

And she did- the stunt woman didn't do it half as good as you did it. No, because she did it safely. Because the stunt person's like, yeah, if you do it the way Caitlyn does it- I'm going to break my neck. Yeah, you could be paralyzed. Yes. Well, listen, she-

I was angry because she was not funny and she wasn't going to flail her body in a funny way. And I needed you guys to give me a chance. And I knew I only had one chance, so I just really went for it. Yeah. That's not a chiropractic after that, but it was totally worth it.

Now, how many bones have you broken over the course of the run of this? I'm going to let husband and wife talk for a second because Caitlyn, I have to- I can't hold my- I've been holding my pee for so long. I'll be back. I'll be back. I'll be back. I'll be back.

All right. Yeah, you got to take care of your kidneys when you got a pee. Just let it go. I got it. Listen to the podcast. Listen, listen, he's gone. What did you ask me?

He's gone. He's gone. Now, listen, this is what I've always wanted. I want the podcast to just be me, right? And I guess you can call in from time to time. And me, and me, right? And one, and Megan, but Megan won't say a goddamn thing back there.

Megan, come in. Right now, it's the three of us. Hi, Caitlyn. Hi, Megan. Hey, can I ask you a question? Yes, please. Do you remember Rob peeing on you in Philly when he got too drunk that night?

No. What? Oh, wait. And was it Philly or New York? It was Philly. Oh, yes. This is when we were secretly dating. Are you wondering which-

Yes, it was when we were secretly dating. Have you peed on her mouth multiple times? Like, which city was it in? Or you just- Do you remember the event, but- Like, you know, by- Listen, you think you're the first person to pee on me? Please.

Yes, I do. We were secretly dating, and you got so drunk, we all went out to dinner. You even- You guys even went out after that. I went back to my room, and you came, like, drunkenly knocking on my door a couple hours later.

And, um, yes. And you went out to work? I was like, hey, baby. Yeah. Yeah, I was- the bed was soaked, and you tried to say you had sweat. No, it was the opposite. It was the opposite.

You were like, man, you really sweat a lot. And I was like, yeah, I guess I did. Oh, he's back. He's back. He's back. Yeah, I'm back. I did sweat. No, I'm not.

Cut the shit. No, it was not. I was- You peed on me, and you were like, no, I just- I sweat- I dump sweat sometimes. I'm like, that would have come from all over your body, not just by your penis. Oh, you're talking about when Rob pissed in the bed?

Yes. Was this the episode we were talking about? Yeah. OK, so yeah. Oh, was this episode that we were talking about? It was actually, no, the one before, but then I think you brought it up again, yeah. Well, yes.

Yeah, let me re-interview. I've never listened to your podcast. I know. I know. But you don't watch the show. You don't really watch episodes of the show, right? I mean- No, I love watching episodes of the show.

There was a period of like four or five years where you didn't want to watch it because you were in the editing room so much. And so we didn't sit down and watch them together. But I've seen, of course, I've seen every episode. I even like them. I know this sounds weird, but like if it'll just randomly come on somewhere, I get sucked in.

I think they're hilarious because I also don't remember. We've done so many of them and we often break up into A and B stories. I don't always remember what happens in the episode besides what I was doing. Right. I'm finding how much I've forgotten too. And I thought I knew them all like the back of my hand just because of the amount of time we spent in the editing room.

But it's interesting going back, watching all these. Caitlin, from day one, you're great on the show. Thank you, Charlie. Rob gets a lot better, but you from day one. It took me a while to warm into it. Caitlin, I was learning from the masters. I was learning from people like Caitlin and Charlie. They just needed to get fat.

That's all I needed to gain. You just need to gain dick. You found yourself suddenly, you were hilarious. No, I think you're funny in those first seasons, too. You just don't think it. You just don't think it, which is why we lean into it. I get you. Claude is weird.

He thinks he's not funny or like the least funny of all of us. And it's so stupid. I know. That's why we lean. And we see that wound and we jump right on it. You know? Yeah. I think it's objectively true.

I think it's objective. But I'm a lover of comedy. And I can see that you guys are funnier than me. And I'm OK with that. You're right. That's true. I'm funnier than you. But you're very smart.

I need something. Yeah. Smart guy. Well, I guess we brought out a thing. Yeah. I mean, you know. Katelyn, thanks for calling in. Are you where you have to be?

Are you? You know what? Thanks for making my ride more fun. I'm about five minutes away. When do you guys want me to come in? Because it'd be so fun to talk about that. Hey, Megan, let's get her off the line. Yeah.

Let's go ahead and cut this call, OK? OK. But I'll pop by. I'll just pop by. I'll just pop by. I'll just pop by. I'll just pop by. I'll just pop by.

I'll just pop by. I'll just pop by. I'll just pop by. I'll just pop by. I'll just pop by. We're losing the connection here. We're losing the connection. You're driving through the canyon.

I'm hanging in your life, favorite. Bye. Bye, Katelyn. Bye. Well, that was fun. Yeah. I mean, it's not. It's better with Glenn.

It's better with Glenn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just that, you know, he was just low energy for that one episode, but you don't want to deal with that. You know why? Because Katelyn's nice and happy.

Glenn's angry. Yeah. And it's really interesting. And that's when it's fun. But when he's all low energy because he's like, I'm cracking my bronze a broken. It's not fun. Yeah.

I'm just saying. I was saying that I hit a tree. Now I'm a tiny bit of broken-in. I'm sad. Yeah. I'm sad. Which I would say. Even that would be more interesting than just sitting there

just low energy. Yeah. You know, I don't know. Come on, man. And look, I'm not going to blame the other ones on the column. I don't want to talk about football. I'm going to blame that on the drone. He was on massive amounts of some kind of downer.

I'm on drugs. And I can't make a podcast in this game. Well, I think we can both agree it is better with Glenn than it would be with Caitlyn. Oh, I mean.