The Amelia Project - Episode 78 - Legacy Vaughn (1468)

Episode Date: August 30, 2024

"Okay, okay. I'm going to have to ask you to keep an open mind..." Feauturing Kiba Walker as Legacy Vaughn, Alan Burgon as The Interviewer and Hemi Yeroham as Kozlowski. Written and edited by Philip T...horne with sound design by Eli Hamada McIlveen and direction by Oystein Ulsberg Brager and Philip Thorne. The Amelia Project is a production of Imploding Fictions. Thank you to Wooden Overcoats! Website: https://ameliapodcast.com/  Transcripts: https://ameliapodcast.com/season-5  Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ameliapodcast Donations: https://ameliapodcast.com/support Merch: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-amelia-project?ref_id=6148 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ameliapodcast/ Tumblr: https://www.tumblr.com/ameliapodcast X: https://twitter.com/amelia_podcast Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/theameliaproject.bsky.social Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:28 Piruetta! Why are you pirueting? Ah, because I can! You are showing off, jealous? This is no way to fight, Arthur. You should be conserving energy. Not my style! If you are ever in a real duel...
Starting point is 00:01:44 Cavazione! Mezza cavazione! Energy not my style if you are ever in a real Under the leg what you weren't expecting that way And another self it I'm fine No, you're not On guard. I think we should take a break. Scared? Oh no! Admit it! I am an unpredictable opponent! Unpredictable, yes!
Starting point is 00:02:12 Arthur! What is that? What? The paper on the floor. Paper? I don't know. I don't know. Someone must have slept it under the door while we were fencing. What is it? A phoenix.
Starting point is 00:02:33 It is an impressive sketch. The flames are so lively. Yes. You can almost feel the heat. This must be the work of a great artist. Oh, there's something written beneath. Very neat handwriting. Ah.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Thickie not oi corave? It's gobbledygook. Give it to me. Verrocchio tonight. What? It is a mirror script. Verrocchio needs our help. Interesting. You mustchio needs our help. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:03:05 You must go and see him. But we are visiting the cobbler's shop this evening. I'm still not sure a cobbler's shop is a suitable front for a... Why not? Making boots? It will be a comfortable life and everyone needs to get their souls patched. It's the perfect pretext for meeting clients. Besides, we can't stay in this attic
Starting point is 00:03:25 forever. If we want to make Florence our new base, we need to... Ooh! What? Firebird footwear! What do you think? I think that boot-making is a skill that takes many years to master. I will master it just like I mastered fishing, and preaching, and basket weaving, and rat-catching, and jousting and... I am a jack of all trades.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Master of none. I heard that. You want to stay in Florence as much as I do, right? Oh yes. I believe it is the most interesting place to be. Right. I will inspect this cobbler's shop. Yes!
Starting point is 00:04:04 But you must meet Verrocchio. Setting up a new cover operation requires funds. And an artist of Verrocchio's standing can pay. Very well. Another match? No, Arthur! On guard! Arthur!
Starting point is 00:04:19 Sotto il bracchio! I said... Azzione volanti! Very well. Falso grito! I said... Very well! False three! The Amelia Project. Created by Philip Thorne and Oostein Ulsbeck-Braga, with music and sound direction by Frederick Barden and sound design by Eli Hamada-Mackelveen. Episode 78. Legacy Vaughan, 1466. Hello? Andrea del Verrocchio? Hmm. Oh! Oh! So sorry, I didn't see you there. It's so dark Well, you're so still. Yes, uh... Virocchio? Tch! Ah!
Starting point is 00:05:50 That's not a Virocchio, that's a statue! Who are you? Where are you? Up here! Oh! What are you doing up on that ladder? Varnishing a canvas. You're an apprentice?
Starting point is 00:06:03 Just a garzione. Call your master, please. It's late. Verrocchio's already in bed. Wait. What? Are you? Yes?
Starting point is 00:06:14 I can't believe it's you! What? No, no, I'm here to see your- You're the Phoenix guy! I know who you are! Verrocchio shouldn't have told you about me. We operate in utmost secrecy, we- Verrocchio didn't send for you.
Starting point is 00:06:33 What? I did. You? Yes. No, no, that can't be. Verrocchio left this. See? There we are. Yep, that was me. You drew this. No? There we are. Yep, that was me. You drew this.
Starting point is 00:06:48 No, no, it's... Just a silly little doodle, really, but... It's ingenious. Oh. Thanks. But I don't think I've really figured out fire yet. I'm better at water. Wanna see?
Starting point is 00:07:00 Well... Yes. Let's see what's in here somewhere. Ah! See, I've been trying to get wave motions and currents right. This is water running against and around an obstacle. Oh, yes. So here. Oh, my.
Starting point is 00:07:14 This is water in descent. You're really just a studio boy. Oh, and this is water hitting water. Oh, it's so vivid, so real. I can almost hear the water crashing down on the rocks. Neat, huh? You know, I'll gift it to you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Can you sign it? Of course. Oh, what are you... You are writing in reverse. Oh, force of habit. I'm left-handed, you see, so I taught myself to write from right to left to avoid smudging the ink. Clever. It's also a way to stop people from snooping on me. Snooping? Yeah. I prefer to keep my ideas secret. Here you Uh...Nyagara Falls, by Legacy Vaughn.
Starting point is 00:08:08 That's your name, Legacy Vaughn? Yes. Very promising. What? Well, it's an unusual name, so I'm guessing you have an unusual story for me. You want to hear my story? Oh yes, I collect stories. Very well, but not here. Follow me. Where are we going?
Starting point is 00:08:29 I'll take you to my room. What? Well, I say room, but... Oh. Oh, oh. This is where Verrocchio makes you sleep? To be fair, he didn't really need a Garzione. He's already got his apprentices to house and feed, but I said I would work without bed and board, and he agreed.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Oh, uh, so now you sleep in the storage chamber between the paints and brushes. Yes. And what about food? I have a little stash. Huh. Sniff, sniff. Um, and what is that smell? Oh, I've been conducting a little experiment. Right, what kind of experiment? Mixing egg yolks into oil
Starting point is 00:09:14 paints. Some of the eggs may have rotted in the heat. Oh, why are you doing that? Well, I think it helps against humidity, surface wrinkling, and yellowing of the paintings. And I would have thought egg yolks helping against yellowing. So funny. These are your paintings? Yeah. No, you know, give those here. Give them here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Take those. Yeah, give them here. Yeah, take those. So in addition to water in motion, you're studying penises in motion. Ha ha ha ha. Has Verrocchio seen your work? Oh no, no. Why not?
Starting point is 00:10:00 It's not good enough. What? Come now. The male member has never been depicted with such anatomical precision and erect virility. The veins aren't right. Oh, you're a perfectionist. Details make perfection, and perfection isn't a detail. I'm hungry.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Want some? Oh no, I don't want to deplete your reserves. Oh, be my guest, I insist. Oh, alright. Oh, what on earth is... Alright. Oh my, these are excellent! Oh, so sweet, so light, so crunchy!
Starting point is 00:10:48 I know, right? Have some more. Oh, thank you. I need something to wash it down. Oh, what's this? How do you open it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't don't shake it. Right. Don't shake it. Why? You take the tab here at the top. You pull it back until you hear.
Starting point is 00:11:13 I'm not sure. That's right. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, my. Oh, it's getting everywhere. Yes. What happens? Is it safe? Oh, absolutely safe, yeah, totally. It won't explode in my stomach. No, no, no, no, no, no, that's just the after, that's just, you're good, just drink it, you'll be great.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Cheers. Cheers. Oh my, oh, oh, it's sparkling inside my mouth. Good, isn't it? Oh, how did you do that? What, this? You try it, come on. You try it. It's easy.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Alright, alright, alright. How fun. Almost. Practice makes perfect. Let me have another go. Let me have another go. Wait, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I feel it, come on. You can do it. Oh, that was good. Oh, yes. Oh, good Lord. Getting there. It wasn't as good as the first one, but- It takes time, but you know,
Starting point is 00:12:28 you're already better than Botticelli, Marino, and Ghirlandaio, so. Oh, who are Botticelli, Marino, and Ghirlandaio? Oh, Verrocchio's apprentices. I'm sure Botticelli stole a few cans. Well, I must thank you for introducing me to this exquisite drink. What is it?
Starting point is 00:12:48 A little specialty from back home. Brrrr. Oh, awesome! Look at that! Ah, that was awesome. Yes. So, Legacy, I think it's time you told me your story. Yes. So, Legacy, I think it's time you told me your story. Yes, and then you tell me your story.
Starting point is 00:13:10 And then I'll, what? Hold on. Sorry about that. What's that? So sorry, I need to take this. Hi, Mom. How's things? What are you?
Starting point is 00:13:24 Yeah, yeah, all good. Yeah, learning loads, really inspiring. Uh-huh. Why are you talking to your- Oh, that- that's my roomie. Roomie? Yeah, Mike. Mike? Yeah, you know Mike. He's on this study trip too. He's from Denver.
Starting point is 00:13:39 From Denver? Where's- Denver? Yeah, yeah, he's cool. No, he's not my boyfriend. Mom, that's none of your business. Um, legacy? Yeah, yeah. I miss you too, Mom. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the pizza is amazing.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Pizza? What's pizza? Mortadella. Gross, Mom, animal killer, corpse cruncher. Yeah, yeah, Mom, I'm getting enough protein. Martadella? Gross mom, animal killer, corpse cruncher. What? Yeah, yeah, mom, I'm getting enough protein. And sleep. And exercise. Honestly mom, I'm doing great. I'm all good. Okay. Kiss kiss. Have a good day. Goodbye. Yes, yes. Yes, of course I'm being honest. Never been better.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I mean, it's Italy. What's not to love, right? La doccia vita. Okay, I really have to go. I'm trying to save my battery. Okay, yup, bye bye now. Short up talking. What was that?
Starting point is 00:14:41 I'm screwed, I need help. You think so? You just spent several minutes talking to your hand. I mean, who does that? I'm screwed, I need help. You think so? You just spent several minutes talking to your hand. I mean, who does that? Yeah, that was my mom. What? Yeah, you really don't know what a phone is? I thought-
Starting point is 00:14:54 A phone? You're talking in tongues. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I'm going to have to ask you to keep an open mind. This is, wow. This is going to be here. You know what? Have another Malteser.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Don't mind if I do. Thank you very much. Oh, God, this is marvelous. How do they do that? They're so good, right? I don't know, it's magic. I know. No, no, no, anyway, anyway.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Explain, please. Okay, so this thing here, it can transmit my voice across the world to a different country. Which country? Ah, you probably don't know it. I probably do. I am exceedingly well traveled.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Yeah, but this country. Yes? It hasn't been discovered yet. Oh, come on. I know, I know. That's so arrogant, right? I mean, it's not like Columbus discovered America. There were already people living there and then they came over. You're making no sense. Sorry, sorry. Getting ahead of myself. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Legacy. Let me get this straight. You're saying there's a country that hasn't been discovered yet? Yes. Right. And you're also saying that you can communicate with the people there? Well, with my mom, yes. With your legacy, I am doing my best to keep an open mind, but- But, but, but, but, but, that's not all. This country exists in a different time zone. Well, yes, I mean, you said have a good day, so it's clearly the morning-
Starting point is 00:16:39 No, no, no, they're, they are nine hours a- ahead? Behind? Yeah, they are nine hours or so behind. But that's not what I meant. I meant they are ahead. You just said they were behind. Oh, balls. This is so confusing. Look, and what is pizza? Oh, that's just food. But that's not important.
Starting point is 00:16:59 What I'm trying to say is from this undiscovered country. No, from this country. But again, you're missing the point. Florence, Naples. But yes, but you said from this undiscovered country? No, from this country, but again, you're missing the point. Oh, from Florence? Naples, but- Yes, but you said from this country. Oh dear, you know what? Um, you see in about 400 years, Naples, Florence, Venice, Milan, and the two Sicilies will unite to form one country.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I don't think so. In 400 years? Yeah, give or take. But you were talking to your mother now. Yes, but she's in the future. What? All right, all right. How come you're in the present and she's in the future? You mean, you mean past?
Starting point is 00:17:38 Sorry? You said, how come you're in the present? Because you are in the present. No, I'm not. Uh, yes, you are. are in the present. No I'm not. Uh, yes you are. This is the present. No it's not. It's not, right.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Um, then what is it? The past. It's the past, is it? Oh, okay. Uh huh, well, well, to be honest, uh, I think it's time we retired those categories really. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. What I mean is right now, now, you and me talking and drinking this, this- Coke, Coke.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Coke, right, and eating these delicious, what are they called? Maltesers? Maltesers. Maltesers, right, Maltesers. I've got to remember that. Right, this moment right now. This must be the present. Are you sure?
Starting point is 00:18:30 What do you mean? I mean, we're drinking a beverage that was invented in 1886 and eating confectionary from 1937. This is very confusing. I agree. Look, maybe we should backtrack a little. I think that would be helpful. Where to begin, right?
Starting point is 00:18:53 Well, let's start with your name. Legacy? Yeah, Legacy. Mom and Dad had high hopes for me. Want wanted me to make a mark, so they called me legacy. I- sorry, do you mind if I doodle while I talk? It helps me focus. Go for it. I was a weird kid. At kindergarten, while the others were coloring, trying to stay inside the lines, I drew felt tip castles, catapults, and armored knights on horses. While the others used Play-Doh to roll sausages or cut stars, I sculpted a mini bust of Mrs. Repose, our nursery teacher.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I sculpted a mini bust of Mrs. Repose, our nursery teacher. Mom and dad hired an art teacher to give me lessons, but I was too into building a Lego city to pay attention. I spent weeks on that city, building it out into the hall and up the stairs. I learned how to read and write in my first year at elementary school. I read all the books in the library and was sent to middle school for more. I came across a science magazine and it was love at first sight. For my sixth birthday, I got a chemistry set and turned my bedroom into a lab. I started a fire that almost burnt the house down. Mom and dad encouraged me to play outdoors after that. Silly me. I collected snails, worms, and caterpillars outside, and taught myself how to sketch the
Starting point is 00:20:28 web foot of a frog and then the wings of a tiger swallowtail butterfly. A neighbor saw me dissecting a toad with my penknife. She screamed and screamed at my mom and called me sick. Mom enrolled me in a summer music camp to keep me out of trouble. I practiced the violin all day and night, learned how to read and write music. You wrote music at the age of six? At seven. Mrs. King asked me to write new songs for our school nativity play. She got sick two weeks before the show, so I took over the direction. At age seven? Wow, that's very impressive. I know, right?
Starting point is 00:21:07 One of the dads in the audience was a theater agent and he thought so too. He asked my parents if he could represent me, so I started writing a play for him, but I never finished it because I got distracted. By what? Mathematics. I feel exhausted just listening to you. Hey, learning never exhausts the mind. But...
Starting point is 00:21:27 And I hate boredom. Oh, yes, I agree. I know, right? Boredom is the worst. It is. It is the worst. I always need a new project to lose myself in. I'm like that with cases.
Starting point is 00:21:40 I always need new stories to keep my mind occupied. But I find it hard to concentrate on just one thing. You know, the world is just too interesting, okay? Mom and dad were always trying to get me to focus, focus, focus, to commit fully to my art or writing or music or math or chemistry or quantum theory. Quantum theory? Just a thing I became obsessed with when I was 10. It's wild shit.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Anyway, the point is, I find it impossible to do just one thing. I get bored. Hmm. Yes. I mean, time is too short. Time stays long enough for anyone who uses it properly. Huh. That is a very wise thing for someone like you to say. Someone like me? What's that supposed to mean? Someone so young. Hey, I'm 16, thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Exactly. I may be young, but that didn't stop Berkeley, Harvard, MIT, and Juilliard throwing scholarships at me. They didn't even need me to finish high school. I have no idea what those names mean. But I couldn't choose. I wanted to do it all music engineering architecture algebra art What's that I told you I like to doodle while I talk yes, but that's more than a doodle
Starting point is 00:22:59 What is it? It is that a piece of art or a technical diagram? Why can't it be both? When I do art, I'm a mathematician, thinking about perspective, proportions, and geometry. When I do science, I'm an artist, dreaming of the impossible. But that's not how the education system works, right? They want you to specialize. But then, I met a man. Which man?
Starting point is 00:23:26 A Russian gentleman with emerald eyes and a green velvet suit. He said he represented an elite academy that specializes in nurturing geniuses. My parents were cautious, but that was only because there was no public information about this school. I think they would have preferred me
Starting point is 00:23:44 to go to Harvard or MIT, but they liked this man calling me a genius. And when I tell you he was good at flattery, so eventually they let me go. And at first I thought I had made a mistake. The academy seemed like a prison. But the gentleman assured me that the security was simply to give students a safe space for their research, and the research being conducted there was extraordinary. I met the brightest brains in astronomy, linguistics,
Starting point is 00:24:21 computer science, nuclear physics, clairvoyance, chaos theory, molecular Science, Nuclear Physics, Clairvoyance, Chaos Theory, Molecular Biology, String Theory, Robotics, Biochemistry, Risk Analysis, Architecture, Telepathy, and Entomology. I mean, I was given unlimited funds to pursue my passions and could use my time however I wanted. I want you to dream, the gentleman said. Dream big, dream bigger than anyone has ever dreamed before. And so I let my curiosity drift, combined disciplines, explored relativity, space engineering, history, sci-fi, and quantum computing.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Then I designed this. A time machine. Where am I? Welcome to desert skies, traveler. Your journey through the physical plane has come to an end. I am the attendant. My colleague here is the mechanic. Yo!
Starting point is 00:25:24 This is your last stop on your way to the great beyond. It's our job to make sure you're prepared for the ride. Now, before hitting the road, we have an impressive selection of over 34 varieties of microwavable burritos. Um, what- what- what's going on? There's gotta be a better afterlife than this. I mean, come on! Uh, that's offensive. Something seems to be wrong. You left something major undone. I have a life outside of this gas station, you know.
Starting point is 00:25:56 You quite literally do not. Any hobbies? Nope. Ever travel? Nope. Love interests? Are you kidding? Oh my god, you're like the human version of a plain bagel.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Cash register. How can I help you attendant? Play some music? You got it. It's kind of funny though. What I needed wasn't back there. It was here. Waiting for me.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I wonder what it feels like, Nek. To miss the physical plane. The people. You left behind. You know I had a wife who died. Three years ago. Wish I could go back. No, you don't need to go back. You know, I had a wife who died three years ago. Wish I could go back. No, you don't need to go back.
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Starting point is 00:28:01 Wow. I must say, Legacy, your story did not disappoint. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I guess H.G. Wells hasn't written his masterpiece yet, so... H.G. Wells? Oh, a couple hundred years from now, he'll write a story called The Time Machine. It will popularize the idea and inspire all sorts of fiction, yeah. Yes, fiction, quite. Sorry?
Starting point is 00:28:38 No, no, no, you're not just a talented artist. I can see that, but also a gifted storyteller, yes. I was a storyteller myself, you see. But the level of fantasy and detail in your tale are quite exquisite. Wait, are you saying you don't believe me? What, that you traveled here from the year 2020? Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Hey, how do you explain the Maltesers, the Coke? Oh, it's some culinary innovation from the Orient, I would guess. That's ridiculous. What about my phone? Oh, you mean that thing that you held up to your ear? Yeah, I spoke with my mom. Well, all I saw you doing was talking to your hand. Right. Hi, Siri.
Starting point is 00:29:42 My name is not Siri. Oh, oh, it lights up. Here you go. Take a look. Oh, oh thank you. Open Spotify. Oh good lord. Careful, don't drop it.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Okay. It's expensive. But what are all these little pictures? Choose one. Any of them. Where did they come from? Sorry? Yeah just choose one. Go on. Just press one. Press one? Alright. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH- Oh good lord! Make it stop, make it stop! Ah! What? What? What?
Starting point is 00:30:27 What? What? What? What? What is that? Who's talking? Oh, just a podcast I like. You can stop it here.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Want to see some photos? Photos? Of home. Um, I... Press there. There, right there. What, here? No, no, no, touch that little square up in the left. Oh, there it is. Oh, there it is. Oh, there... Press there. There, right there.
Starting point is 00:30:45 What, here? No, no, no, touch that little square up in the left corner. Oh! Oh, not that one. What is that? Not that one. Okay. Do you love the color of the sky?
Starting point is 00:30:59 That's Tumblr. Who is? No, no, no, no, no, it's a website, a blogging website, but it's also haunted. It's complicated, really. A web? Give it here. Just give me the phone. Watch this.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Right. Here. Okay. Oh my. Why is that kitten wearing clothes? And why is it on a... What is that? Uh, that's a bicycle.
Starting point is 00:31:28 What does this mean? In the future, cats will overtake humans? Oh shit. Oh, oh, why has it gone black? Oh, it's a gnomon. Can we watch the kitten again? Or is it dead? No, no, the battery's gone.
Starting point is 00:31:41 What is happening? The battery's gone. It's been battered? No, no. By who? No, battery battery's gone. It's been battered? No, no. By who? No, battery. Nevermind. I was going to show you a picture of mom. Oh, it's broken?
Starting point is 00:31:53 Anyway, now do you believe me? Well, I, I mean, I must admit it is most peculiar. That was a yes? That was a, that, well, what I'm, well, thrust me like a rapier. I suppose I do. Yes, a time traveler. Oh, I can't wait to tell Camac about this.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Oh, how do you like it here in 15th century Florence? That's the problem. What? I liked it here too much. Really? You're a studio boy sleeping among the paint pots. That may be so, but the energy and excitement? It's infectious, it's inspiring. You think? None of this right brain, left brain bullshit from back home.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Here, in Florence, art and science are not binaries. This city is a melting pot of art, architecture, and innovation. Here, art must be rigorous and technology must be beautiful. Civilization is reinventing itself before my eyes. But I've stayed here too long. How long have you been with us? Almost a week. That's not so long.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Normally, I only stay a few hours. But if you like it here, what's wrong with staying longer? Yesterday, I tried to go home. Right? I couldn't. Oh. Oh dear. Um.
Starting point is 00:33:23 What happened? I don't. Oh. Oh dear. Um... What happened? I... I don't fully understand. Where's my sketchbook? Okay, but my theory is this. Alright, look. Right?
Starting point is 00:33:34 Time... is not linear. Past, present, and future are not points on a straight line. They are three sides of a triangle. Okay. I was able to create a wormhole through the triangle from the 16th January 2020 to the 16th January 1468. But the opening only exists on that one day. It's now the 23rd January, my route back is closed.
Starting point is 00:34:00 But presumably now you can create a new route through the triangle from the 23rd of January 1468 to the 23rd of January 2020. No, I can only travel into the past. When I was in 2020, I wasn't able to travel into the future, only back. And now that this has become my new present, I can travel anywhere prior to 1468, and as long as I only stay a few hours, I can come back to the day from which I departed, but I can't travel further forward.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I see. So you're stuck in 1468? Yes. Oh. Unless... Yes? You help me. What? Can you do that?
Starting point is 00:34:46 You want me to make you disappear from 1468 and reappear in 2020? That's impossible! La la la la! What? What was that? I hate that word. What word? Oh, impossible.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Don't even say it! Right, um... What was that? I hate that word. What word? Oh, impossible. Don't even say it. Right, um, such a confusing day. I'm sorry, Legacy, but unlike you, I am not a time-hopping genius. I am but a simple deathfaker with- Stop it.
Starting point is 00:35:21 What? A simple deathfaker? Yes. I know that you're more than that. Stop it! What? A simple deathfaker. Yes! I know that you're more than that. Oh, you're referring to my fencing skills? No! Because I'm really getting rather good-
Starting point is 00:35:34 I know about your secret. My what? I have told you my story. Now it is time for you to tell me yours. That's not how this works. How did you do it? How did you travel into the future? Me? Oh, you are mistaken.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I have seen you with my own eyes. What? Where? At the academy. I am very flattered, but I am no genius. At least not like you. I saw you going into room 333. I have no idea what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:36:07 It was you. I know it was. Maybe you saw someone who looked like me. No, it was you. How can you be so sure? Your symbol was on the door. Sorry? The phoenix, the phoenix. Wait, you...
Starting point is 00:36:23 You saw someone who looks like me entering a door marked with a phoenix? Yes, room 333. Well that is a coincidence. I was curious because I'd never seen you at the academy before. I asked the Emerald-Eyed Gent what you were studying, but he wouldn't tell me. Then yesterday, here in Florence, I came across your symbol again. A phoenix scratched into a pew at Catedrale di Santa Maria del Fiore beneath it in a dress. The phoenix is a common mythological symbol I told myself, probably no connection, but
Starting point is 00:36:58 I wanted to make sure, so I left a message. And then look, you come into the the workshop you are the same person I saw in 2020 I'm sure of it hmm what you have got this wrong I told you I know what I saw I know I think you did see me in 2020. Finally, the truth comes out! But my secret isn't time travel. Nothing as fancy as that. No, no, my secret is boringly linear, I'm afraid.
Starting point is 00:37:38 What do you mean? I travel through time, yes, but only forwards, and I cannot speed up the process. So you have no machine? Sadly no. Oh, okay. I move forward hour by hour, day by day, year by year, just like everyone else. Only my partner and I have found a way to delay the destination. Delay the destination? The destination being death?
Starting point is 00:38:20 I am so thrilled to hear I will still be around in 2020. I mean, death bakery is a dangerous profession, and I've had my fair share of- And how do you delay death, exactly? Oh. What? That means I will live in an age in which these Maltwizzlers are readily available. Maltesers. Maltesers!
Starting point is 00:38:42 Yum. Can I have another one? Sure. They're very good. Well. Maltesers. Maltesers! Yum! Can I have another one? Sure. They're very good. Well. So smooth and yet so crunchy. This is great for you, but it's terrible for me.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I was hoping you could bring me home. Well, I'm afraid I can't do that. No. I could give you a new identity in the past if you like. And how would you do that? Well, you can travel back to any period, right? Right. And I'm very well connected in medieval Europe,
Starting point is 00:39:09 the Roman Empire, Greece, ancient Egypt, you name it. Right. Oh, I could bring you back as a jester in King Harold's Court or as a chariot racer in Circus Maximus. No, stop, stop. If you can't bring me back to 2020, I'm not interested. But what's so great about 2020? Nothing. Actually, it's a really shit year.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Then stay. I mean, it is tempting. You said yourself you felt inspired here. Hypothetically, if I do stay, then at least I might still meet him. Oh, who? My hero. Your hero? Wait, your hero isn't Verrocchio?
Starting point is 00:39:52 Like what? What? Please, no. What? Verrocchio. Yes? Come on now, Verrocchio is a very respected artist. I mean, I just naturally assumed he's who you came back to visit.
Starting point is 00:40:07 You're right. He's a decent craftsman, but he's no innovator. OK, then if not Verrocchio, then who? Leonardo. Who? Leonardo? Leonardo? Yes. Leonardo. Leonardo da Vinci? Nope. You've never heard of… right, of course you haven't.
Starting point is 00:40:31 He's still a humble apprentice, preparing panels, grinding pigments, and sweeping workshop floors. That's how I wanted to meet him before his fame. And what makes this Leonardo so special? He's a man ahead of his time. A painter? A painter? Sculptor? Architect? Scientist? Inventor? Cartographer? Anatomist? Botanist? Geologist? Theatrical? Impressario? Writer? I mean, list goes on.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Impressive. He made technical drawings for parachutes, helicopters, scuba diving gear, an armored car, a robotic knight, and a multi-barrel gun. A robotic knight? And he designed a city of the future, featuring raised walkways, multi-level streets, and an underground sewage system. Wow, did he actually build it? His theatre shows were full of the most extraordinary effects.
Starting point is 00:41:22 He made a mechanical line walk up to the King of France, open its chest and reveal a cluster of lilies. Gosh. He designed the world's first contact lenses. He's the father of dentistry. He was the first animal rights activist and vegetarian. A what? I mean, he made a wing glider.
Starting point is 00:41:38 He made a... Uh, what? Oh, a vegetarian. It means he didn't eat meat. Well that's dumb. Well, that's what you think now, but in a few hundred years you may reconsider. What? Oh, a vegetarian. It means he didn't eat meat. Well, that's dumb. Well, that's what you think now, but in a few hundred years you may reconsider. What? Really? But humans have always eaten meat.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Well, he explored the concept of plate tectonics and speculated on the movement of the Earth's crust. But hang on a minute. Was he actually any good at, you know, painting? Because it sounds like he may have been overcompensating a little in all these other things that he was- Ah, excuse me! Leonardo da Vinci was the greatest painter of all time. Salvatore Mundi, The Last Supper, Mona Lisa- Haven't heard of any of them.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Uh, you will! Well, you're really building up this Leonardo da Vincenza. Leonardo da Vinci. Right, that one. And you think he's here in Florence? The biographies say he becomes Verrocchio's apprentice around the age of 16. Hmm. I mean, they could be wrong, of course. But it would be so fascinating to meet him, don't you think?
Starting point is 00:42:41 Oh, yes. He is a very fascinating young man. Wait. What? You do know him. Yes, yes I do, yes. But you acted like you'd never heard of him, I mean why play the game with me? I was wrong, I mean people make mistakes. I do know him.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Really? I do, him. Really? I do, yes. Really? Oh yes, really. He is one of the most interesting young men I have ever met. Oh, let's not waste any time. Where can I find him?
Starting point is 00:43:15 Oh, right, yes. Well, you can find him right here. With Varokio? Yes, with Varokio, yes. In the storage chamber. What? You know, you really are intelligent,
Starting point is 00:43:31 but you don't see, do you? You really don't. No way. You, you are Leonardo. I'm so sorry. It's just, I know historical records are often imprecise, but I was imagining you to be much younger at this point in time.
Starting point is 00:43:47 And you're definitely much older. And I don't remember anything about being really the first in painting. I am not Leonardo. But, but you said. No, I didn't. I didn't say that I was Leonardo. You are.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Huh? There it is! Ha ha. Oh, come on now. I mean, isn't it obvious? I am Leonardo? No, no. Yes, yes!
Starting point is 00:44:17 Just think about it! Think about it! This is ridiculous! No, I'm not gonna think about it. Leonardo is one of the greatest men who ever lived! Well, that may be over-egging it a bit, but... No, no'm not going to think about it. Leonardo is one of the greatest men who ever lived. Well that may be over-egging it a bit, but you know… No, no, he is. And I am just a dumb teenager who made a time machine and got stuck in history.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Good lord. Legacy, you made a time machine! Yeah, so? So you are not dumb. I mean, come on. Okay, yeah, but I don't really understand my own invention. Well, it got you here, didn't it? I mean, it works.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Yeah, it worked, and now I can't figure out how to get it to work again to bring me back. If I had taken the time to study it properly before setting off, I wouldn't be in this pickle in the first place. I was too impatient. Perhaps Mom and Dad are right, I should focus more. I'm always so impulsive. But don't you see? If you really are Leonardo… And I'm not… Then you coming here was meant to be.
Starting point is 00:45:22 You think? coming here was meant to be. You think? Yes. I mean, here you are with your head full of strange futuristic ideas, ready to light a rocket under the Renaissance. I'm sixteen! Just like Leonardo. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:45:40 But even at sixteen, Leonardo was an incredibly skilled illustrator. I mean, I don't really do that anymore. Those notebooks stacked against the wall, they're all yours? Uh, yes. Yeah, they're all mine. And that's what? That's, um, 15 notebooks? Yeah, that's about... Yeah, that's right, 15. 15 notebooks full of sketches, and you've only been here a week? OK, yeah, I get through about two notebooks a day. They're not all sketches though.
Starting point is 00:46:08 There are poems, jokes, songs, ideas for a new type of agriculture and- This is not normal for a sixteen-year-old. Huh. I guess I've never been quite normal. No. You are extraordinary, Leonardo. I am Leonardo? You are Leonardo. No, it doesn't work. Why not?
Starting point is 00:46:37 Leonardo was born in Anciano. I was born in Fresno. Oh. What? What's so funny? What? But that's where we come in. Sorry? Oh. Yes, you see, the little details in your biography,
Starting point is 00:46:55 we can iron out. We specialize in identities. We can give you a backstory to make you blend in with Florentine society. No problem. Look, I appreciate the faith, but I doubt it. I have never blended in anywhere. Sorry, wrong choice of words. You will not blend in. You will delight and disrupt Florentine society with your innovative ideas. But telling them you're a time traveler
Starting point is 00:47:26 might be taking things a little far, don't you think? Yeah, they wouldn't take me seriously. They'd put me in an asylum or something. Quite, yes. No, no, no, better to create a more mundane backstory. And you'll help me with that. Oh yes. Yes, we can find a family for you and... and previous employers.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Leonardo was a bastard. The son of a Tuscan nobleman and a young peasant woman. Well that's perfect! Making you illegitimate will be much easier. Okay. Less paperwork. Yeah, that solves the family part, but how do I become Virocchio's apprentice? He's not taking on anyone new. I had to convince him just to take me on as a Garzione. Who's the weakest link, would you say?
Starting point is 00:48:10 Sorry? Verochio's apprentices. Who's the weakest link? Marino. Definitely Marino. Then we make him disappear. What? We make him disappear.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Leaving a spot for you. Uh, well, what will happen to Marino? Oh, nothing bad. What? We make him disappear, leaving a spot for you. What will happen to Marino? Oh, nothing bad. But mediocrity must make way for greatness. Oh, I don't know what to say. This is all so strange. Yes, very strange. You know, as a kid,
Starting point is 00:48:43 I had a poster of the Vitruvian Man above my bed. Every night I would stare at the dazzling geometry of it. That...that was me? Oh. Oh. What? Oh no. What is it now?
Starting point is 00:49:05 What about mom? Ah. Yes. I am afraid you will not see your parents again. I am sorry about that. But, but look at it this way. They wanted you to leave a mark on the world, didn't they? Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:24 And you will be doing that. You will be changing the world in ways they could never have imagined. Sure, but they will never know. Yes, but your mother knows you're here. She knows I'm in Florence, but not Florence in 1468. She thinks I'm scooting around town on a Vespa and eating pizza. She thinks I've come to study my hero, not to meet him.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Not that I am him. Yes, right. And that, the, with the kitten. The phone. Yes, yes, the phone, phone, the phone, yes. It's out of battery. I still don't know what that word means. It doesn't work anymore.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Right, right, right. Mom's life will be spent looking for me, trying to find out what happened. I am afraid that is how it is. Oh! Wait! Yes? I have an idea! Yes? What is it? What is it? Tell me! Write a letter.
Starting point is 00:50:44 A letter? Yes, to your mom. Explaining everything. What use is that? I will deliver it for you. You? How? Oh. Well, yes.
Starting point is 00:51:02 I mean, it will take me 552 years, but I promise I won't forget. I will give it to her on the 23rd of January, 2020, just a few hours after your last phone call with her. Okay, she'll find it difficult to comprehend, though. I find it difficult to comprehend. To be honest, so do I. But you know, although she may not comprehend, she will know that that letter is from you. How so? Well, you'll write it in your neat mirror script.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Your writing style is quite unique. I'm sure she'll recognize it. Very well. I... I... You know, I actually feel excited about this. So do I. Yes. Thank you, seriously. I... I... You helped me discover my true identity. Once I have the means to repay you, promise. Well I was thinking about that actually. Yeah? Yeah what? I would quite like to do some time hopping of my own.
Starting point is 00:52:16 What no absolutely not. What no why why not? It's too risky you might get stuck like me. Oh I rarely need more than a few hours to conduct an interview. Wait. You want to help clients in the past. I do. Haven't you already helped clients throughout history? But what about the stories I've missed?
Starting point is 00:52:39 We couldn't be everywhere. And what about the stories from before my birth? I want to collect them all. All the stories ever. Yes. That's impossible. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, If you promise me to use it with care, I will give you my invention. You have my word. Good. Leonardo.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Oh, that's me. Yes, yeah, yeah, Leonardo. Yes. Yes. I think this deserves a toast. Do you have any more Coke? The last two cans. Oh. Here you go.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Vintage. For you. Thank you. Leonardo da Vinci, let us toast to your legacy. To my legacy. To your legacy. Oh, it sparkles. It just, it is quite fascinating.
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Starting point is 00:56:44 Leonardo's time machine! No, no, no. Why not? It went down with the pirate ship. You really should have been more careful. I know, I know. But did it work? I mean, did you use it?
Starting point is 00:56:58 Oh yes! I mean, when business was slow we'd pop back and take on clients in the past. Wow. Would you like to hear those stories too? Well, let's keep this linear otherwise it'll get too confusing. Right, yes fair enough. Although there are some wonderful stories to be told. I'm sure. Yes. Maybe another time. If there is a time. Time. Time.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Time stays long enough for anyone who'll use it. Do you know what else Leonardo said? As a well spent day brings happy sleep, so a life well spent brings happy death. Did he settle into his new identity? Not long after our encounter he was turning heads everywhere, with his art and inventions and with his peculiar dress sense. Oh?
Starting point is 00:57:55 He walked the streets of Florence in a short pink tunic, dark purple stockings, crimson satin coat and a pink velvet cap. Leonardo was openly gay at a time when that could be a death sentence. Oh. Did he get into trouble? Did he ever? I mean, in 1476 he was charged with sodomy. Oh no. Florence was rife with homosexual dalliances. You know, it even became known as Florenceing.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I did not. Yes, the church urged the government to crack down on Florenceing. And so the Office of the Night was established to detect and punish this offence. The Office of the Night? Yes. 15th century Florence? Not so enlightened after all then. Oh, no, no. The society was exceptionally progressive. But, you know, leaders always lag behind.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Indeed. So what happened if the Office of the Knight caught you florencing? Well, in theory, you could be burnt at the stake. Oh. Yes, but since the majority of Florentine men were incriminated with sodomy at least once, this became impractical to enforce. Wait, the majority of men were incriminated
Starting point is 00:59:06 I told you Alvino. It was the gayest of times Still Leonardo wanted to play it safe, so we helped him disappear for a while We helped many people in similar situations In fact as my next story why don't I tell you of such a case? It is the case of Joan of... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let's stick with Leonardo. How long did you make him disappear? Two years. Yes, he hid in our cobblers shop and designed death-faking gadgets for us.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Some of which have become stone cold classics. Oh, such as? Such as the knife with a blade that retracts into the handle. No way! Yes. Forget his legacy in art and engineering. Think of what he's done for the joke shops. Oh yes, indeed.
Starting point is 00:59:55 I mean, the man left his mark everywhere. He really hit it off with Kozlovsky too. They would sneak out at night and conduct secret dissections. They wanted to know how the body was constructed. Leonardo so that he could draw muscles, nerves and blood vessels. Kozlovsky so that he could recreate them. I just realised something. Yes? Back in London, in your old office, next to Lorraine's primary school macaroni thingy? Oh yes.
Starting point is 01:00:28 That sketch... was that... a Leonardo? Niagara Falls by Leonardo da Vinci. Yes, it was. Wow. It was always overshadowed by Lorraine's macaroni art, of course. Of course. Oh, my. What? No, no, nothing.
Starting point is 01:00:52 It's just, it's strange to think that Leonardo met Ant, Hiroshi, Alexandra. What? The Academy. Oh, of course. That was Gullivin. Yes. And the man with the emerald eyes and the velvet suit?
Starting point is 01:01:11 Michael. What does he want, do you think? No idea. He's gathered the world's maddest mavericks. But why? I don't know. Good job you got out of there. There's no such thing as a list mavericks. But why? I don't know. Good job you got out of there. Yes. But you must be careful, Alvina. Me? Promise me you'll be careful.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Why? Michael. What about him? He does not give up. Dr. Eggers didn't think it was designed to keep things out. I know what he thought. He thought it was designed to keep something in. Do you even understand the difficulty trying to keep a base like Fathom at the bottom of the ocean from killing everyone in it on a daily basis? Oh my god. Everyone hold on to something.
Starting point is 01:02:20 I think whatever is on the other side of that door out there, it's not friendly. I think it's on the other side of that door out there, it's not friendly. I think it's trying to get out. That, my friend, is a dire combination. That's a bad sign. Get out of the door! It's spreading like some kind of technological contagion. We can either stop it here or watch the world burn.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Fathom, the first season of Derelict. the world burn.

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