The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - A Can of Beans in the Dishwasher with Trixie & Trixie's Mom

Episode Date: April 27, 2021

As part of our special Mother's Day Bald and the Beautiful Extravaganza, we are so excited to welcome Trixie's Mom to the show. Folks, this is like a Jerry Springer episode on steroids. We're talking ...extreme drug addiction, baby mamas, aliens, cults, and secret second families in Canada. In all honesty, Trixie and her Mom both led shockingly well-adjusted lives and love each other very much. But they do talk about edibles, familial drama, and Trixie's Mom getting hit on whilst in drag. So it's not all rainbows and ponies, people. (but it is very touching at times, which is disgusting) Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To listen to our podcast on YouTube: http://bit.ly/TBATBYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/baldandthebeautifulpodcast If you want to support the show, and get all the episodes ad-free go to https://thebaldandthebeautiful.supercast.com/ If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/baldandthebeautifulpodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:44 Eligibility and member terms apply. All right. Welcome back to The Bald and the Beautiful. I am here by myself today as a host. It is me, Trixie Mattel, and I am here for a very special Mother's Day edition. And I have my real life mom, Valerie, here. Hello. Hello.
Starting point is 00:01:04 We have my real life mom here. What's the. Hello. We have my real life mom here. What's the tea, mom? What's up? Not much. Nice weekend. Great. That's the whole episode. Bye.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Well, nice weekend. I'm glad to be... I'm working full-time Monday through Friday now, so my schedule's changed. I love the weekends, but they're so busy. I think people need to hear like post-COVID. I think people need to hear about people who actually have had a good year. And you have kind of come out of COVID with like best job you probably ever had. Best money.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Right. Well, and, you know, I've got the, you know, I did get, I did get COVID, you know, in the end of 2020 in December I had COVID. Isn't that crazy? I was very sick. It was scary. But I came out of it okay and I did that trial medication in that hospital the ER and it worked I was surprised it worked I mean I wasn't surprised it worked but how well it worked um when COVID started I remember them
Starting point is 00:02:00 talking about the type of people that were super high risk that they could kill you and you were like the exact person that it would kill oh yeah it was scary i worked from home for a while but it just got to the point that i couldn't really work from home anymore it had been months you know and it was just time to get back and plus i felt i was letting my team down and my job so i went then i got then when i was scheduled to go back i was was back for a little, you know, I was working. And a month later, I got the virus. So, but I got through that. And then I made the move down here because the house you bought for us. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Yes. The awesome home. I love it. I'm very happy. She was previously on the streets before that. But I was living alone. So now I'm with my family. So it's really nice.
Starting point is 00:02:47 So you live in Milwaukee now. You grew up in Milwaukee, right? Yes. Does it weird to feel like you live here again? It is. I haven't lived here for 32 years. That's crazy. I mean, I've visited here, but I haven't lived here.
Starting point is 00:03:01 So it's nice to be back. It is. It's nice to learn the it is it's nice to learn the city I'm still learning my way around the city but it's great I like it a lot like I said but once again bringing together with family
Starting point is 00:03:15 is like the best do you want to tell everybody what the marijuana experience you had today I'm sure they like it people like your vibe when you did the video if you guys haven't seen the video of me putting my mom in drag all the comments were like oh my god i love that your mom's just a chill a chill lady who has like stories about smoking weed well i got some edibles and i was told only two edible cookies there were just tiny things and so i eat half
Starting point is 00:03:44 and i had half and didn't seem to do anything. So I ate the other half. How long did you wait? About a half hour. Mom, you can't wait a half hour. And then it was like it was on. Okay. So you waited 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:04:02 By the way, my mom is somebody who's probably been experimenting with marijuana since what, you were a teenager? Yes. And you thought it was okay to wait 30 minutes and then go, nah, that's not enough. Well, edibles, smoking and edibles are different time frames. And it's just, it's different. And the high is even different. That's what I mean. You should know that.
Starting point is 00:04:23 I just started edibles like the past year. Oh, really? Yes. So you never really did any edibles regularly? No. That's so funny because I'm 31. I never got into smoking weed. I never wanted to.
Starting point is 00:04:36 But edibles were so great because to me, it was like, A, better for me than drinking. Right. And B, the worst thing I'm going to do to myself on edibles is like snack a lot and fall asleep like that's it yeah so edibles are kind of a new thing for me um do you get hungry yes i get the munchies i will say i've smoked weed a couple of times. I think edibles make me so much hungrier. I had cake. Oh, your birthday cake.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Yes. Was it amazing? It was. Cause I didn't have no cake. I had cake last night before I went to bed cause I didn't try it. And everybody was telling us how good it was. It was good. And it was even extra good today.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Um, yeah. So I had a bunch of cake. I had some pretzels and dip. I just had the munchies and then I fell asleep on the couch. Wait, have you ever had a bad edibles experience? No. Really?
Starting point is 00:05:30 No. You never been like too much too fast? Because I feel like you have to wait a full 90 minutes to really know what's going on. I was like super duper high today all day. Well, we got them from, you got them from a family member of ours. Yes. Because in Wisconsin, it's not legal, which by the way, for people like my mom who are chronic pain sufferers, give up the ghost. Let people have the edible marijuana.
Starting point is 00:05:55 I think it's on the agenda for the state. I mean, people here drink, I mean, I own a bar here. I'm not, everybody knows I like to drink. I'm not trashy drinking drinking but like the way people drink here not policed at all i mean no one cares but edibles which basically have like nothing's gonna happen to you but they act like it's crack heroin like a hardcore street drug so conservative yeah don't you think because when we lived up north where would you get marijuana up north michigan you could you really they too many people were going to michigan they closed down
Starting point is 00:06:32 the shops around the around because that were around the wisconsin border like up in the up they had shops where you go get edibles and then they closed them down because there was too much going on so oh so you would be able to get them... Is it legal to buy it in Michigan and do it in Michigan? Yeah, it's legal there. But it's not legal to drive it home to your house and eat it later.
Starting point is 00:06:54 That is so crazy. And not to mention, my mom has... What kind of chronic pain do you live with? I have a lot of pain. I have back pain. I have knee pain. I have osteoarthritis.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I have... Does your face hurt? Osteoarthritis. No, I don't fall for that joke i mean really like imagine how much your life would be so much easier if you had that stuff accessible to you and and dosed out in the way you want well and even at the end of the work day you know it's it's it's it's nice to you know just like i said but the smoking and the eating is different because you smoke, you get that instant eating, you
Starting point is 00:07:29 have to wait a while. Well, that's what's hard about eating it is when it comes on strong when it comes on too strong when you're eating it and it's just the beginning of it, you go, oh shit this is about to get worse too and you can't go into it I mean, I was not bad, it i mean i was that bad it was just
Starting point is 00:07:45 i was wasted i was just it doesn't like ruin my i've never done it the day to be honest because it never i can't believe you're here talking right now i would be sleeping for eight hours oh no and you know that's what i told your auntie says you know he says i'm sorry i was really wrecked early i couldn't help you with much of anything because she wanted me to go to menards i'm like i just can't and i can't do it and so um she says well now you know i said yep they said that's so high and i'm gonna try to do brian's would you identify as a hippie dippy person no i'm not really like that neither i'm just laid back you know i think that's just the you know but don't you think that's the ultimate actual hippie energy being laid back yes well everybody should be laid back you can't uh you can't always fix what's coming or know what's
Starting point is 00:08:39 coming the past is behind you today is today today. Yeah. You know, so. Well, this is a Mother's Day special. Did you always want to be a mom? I did. Really? I did. What's your earliest memory of wanting to be a mom? These were my goals in life when I was little.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Okay. First, I wanted to be Miss America. Easy, attainable. And then I wanted to be a wife and a mother well you got half half of those well i get to be a wife for a while too so i'm talking about miss america oh unless you have this miss america career i don't know about oh yeah i didn't get that have you ever been to a real beauty pageant no it's it's really crazy what these people go through i can only imagine i've seen a little bit on those tiny tots or tots beauty shows unless you win unless you win like
Starting point is 00:09:33 miss america there's not like a career there's not like a huge cash bonus for fifth place right you know what i mean you have to basically win and then you have to basically be a nun forever or they strip you of your title. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, yeah. Like, if you were Miss America. Oh, I would have never. They would have stripped my title immediately if I became Miss America.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Like, seriously, if you were Miss America and you were pregnant before marriage, people would be like, oh, these women get treated pretty bad that way. Yeah, I couldn't have been miss america because i would have blown all the protocols before i even became 18 when you found out you were pregnant for the first time did you flip out i was nervous to tell my parents well yeah which is funny because i love grandma grandpa rest in peace love them both grandma had a baby at 16 i know so who could she judge right all she said was it's about time i'm like i was like totally confused what did you think i mean was your gut in knots telling her i told her on the phone fear yeah protection yeah they were up north and i was in milwaukee
Starting point is 00:10:42 at the time yet so i didn't tell your grandpa. Your grandma told him. Too scared? Yep. But it all worked out. Yeah, especially since grandma and grandpa were kind of obsessed with being grandparents. Yeah, and they were great grandparents too. Don't you think they were also really obsessed with Dan? Yes, because he was.
Starting point is 00:11:02 My brother, my older brother, everybody listening. He was the first grandchild and he was a little boy. And your grandma always wanted boys. I mean, she loved us, but, you know, she always wanted a boy. And she got one. She got one. Right. But he's kind of.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Yeah. Bonus for another one. Yeah. Grandchild. That was a boy. The first one, the first grandchild. was a boy. Gosh. The first one. The first grandchild. And then, yeah, they were kind of, but they were good with everyone, I think.
Starting point is 00:11:32 You know, I think you're right. They were probably a little more obsessed with Dan because he was the first one. Right. But that's what I mean. Don't you think, like, when, because, I mean, spoiler alert, everybody on the pod probably knows, but my sister's seven months pregnant now. You're going to be a grandma for the first time. I'm excited. And it is truly about time.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Did you flip out? When she told me? Yeah. No, I wanted her to be. I'm going for drama here, mom. I'm like, did you flip out? You're like, no. No, I didn't flip out.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Because it was bound to happen. Yeah. because it's it was bound to happen yeah so i just wanted her to be more be maybe more secure in a career before she made this move but then again it's her life yeah i mean i'd say i don't care because i do you know i'm being involved and um but for all of you know my children it's their life their path i can't i've learned a while ago, I can't choose those. I just have to stand behind them. Yeah, and try to give them, try to cash it. Oh, just travel the path with them.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Exactly. Travel the path with them. Okay, quick question. Who's your favorite child? My oldest son asked me that too not too long ago. Did he really? Yes. What did he say?
Starting point is 00:12:49 I said, I love you all. There is no favorite. He says, who's your smartest child? I have two younger sisters, Samantha and Desiree. Those are your youngest kids. Yes. It's weird because you had two children and then waited a while. And they had another
Starting point is 00:13:05 batch of an older and younger child. Right. Are Samantha and Desiree, did they fight as much as me and Dan did? Yes, they did. Really? And even now, they're not best pals. They can't be together for an extended period of time because they start getting catty with each other.
Starting point is 00:13:24 They just don't get along after a while because their personalities are so different that's why yeah same with you and dan you guys personalities are way different i love my brother i don't think you could have produced a more in some ways incompatible sibling for me right right not a single shared interest well you know there was a lot of drama when you came along too because then ashley came along right after you my cousin yeah and for a little kid he's no longer the center of attention there's more babies and he didn't like that i'm sure you know but yeah they kept coming so i mean he's funny because he's like um he's kind of like superman as far as like super achiever he is yes if you guys don't know at home my brother's like how many times did he go to kuwait and iraq like three times no he was back
Starting point is 00:14:20 and forth yeah but he served four years in the service and most of the time was over in afghanistan and iraq and now he's an attorney with his own practice attorney crazy i mean he truly is kind of like superman well he's he's he's likes to you know do well same with you look at you you work all the time but you know what's funny the only thing that we have in common is work ethic right but we also couldn't work in more separate fields although you know what's funny? The only thing that we have in common is work ethic. Right. But we also couldn't work in more separate fields. Although, you know what? I don't think we could work together either because you both want to take the lead. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:52 You know what, though? I do bother him sometimes about contracts because he's obviously really good. Right. He doesn't do entertainment law, but he really understands the verbiage. Those contracts are written crazy. Right. Right. I can't imagine yeah
Starting point is 00:15:05 everything is like whereas unto the it's like all kind it's like why are we writing like that but okay i have a question when did you uh do you have any memory when did you think i was going to be a performer maybe oh when you were young you were young you always loved singing and remember when you had the mullet, people loved... Oh, yeah. Why don't you tell people about the mullet? Well, your hair was so pretty and soft and it grew long. You hear that?
Starting point is 00:15:36 I used to have soft hair that grew long. And it naturally spiked on the top of his head. If I kept it a certain length, it didn't... It was long length. It spiked. And it was long in the back. it a certain length it didn't it was long length it spiked and it was long in the back and of course he had a mullet and people would give him money to touch his hair when he was little and he put it in the coin machine so so did you let the hair in the back grow yeah and then someday you had to eventually cut it right right but you just didn't want to cut it no i just i liked
Starting point is 00:16:05 it long did dan have a mullet no just me just you why because i liked your hair that way when you did the um the talent show and you won and then you do the local uh oh yeah tell them that story about the talent show yeah so it was uh a school talent show? Yeah. So it was a school talent show, right? Right. Elementary. You were fifth grade. I was not in fifth grade. Not fifth grade.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I was in kindergarten. Kindergarten. I was five. I'm thinking 5K. I'm thinking 5K. Yes. You were in kindergarten and your teacher practiced to practice with you. Your grandpa practiced with you.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And you did the talent show. You sang My Girl by the Temptations and you won first place. Isn't that crazy? And then the the local news they got wind of it and they were there for a miss teen northeast wisconsin beauty contest yeah i was the one i remember yes if i was oh yeah i was the one and you were um performed in it you sang my girl in the as a performance i'll never forget when i won the i won the talent show i won 20 literally 20 which at the time i could i couldn't even like conceive of that money you know and then we had to go do the northeast wisconsin like miss is it miss northeast wisconsin miss teen i think or maybe it was miss northeast yeah because the girls were young adults yeah they were like high school age yeah i think and they're they're doing this uh in the gym it's set up like a like a real pageant right
Starting point is 00:17:30 midwestern it's like full drop dead gorgeous like a midwestern teen beauty pageant and then we had to go pick out a suit do you remember i had a suit a tux yes a tux a child a five-year-old and a tux with tails yes and we had to go rent that i think they paid for the rental they did and then we had to and i remember i had to sing my girl with all these like teenage women like posing around me i wish there was video of it it's probably so corny you might be able to find it it was at channel 11 i don't remember what channel was in archives of there you know yeah i probably have to die for them to come up with that. But,
Starting point is 00:18:06 uh, yeah, that was, and then years later when you were in high school and you were prom king. Oh yeah. You got them to choose your little sister for the mini. I forgot about that. I have a framed picture of her and that I don't remember the little boy's name,
Starting point is 00:18:23 but, and I still have the, um, the newspaper article where it's showing the court yeah oh yeah god she was such a pretty little girl wasn't she yeah she's i mean i even tell her so that's my choice usually brian did makeup for you once i says you're a beautiful girl so uh yeah she kind of i mean i wouldn't say that our our our lineage is the hottest people anyone's ever seen, but she definitely got like the best of everything. She's got beautiful eyes and everything. She's a little chubby.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Yeah. But she is. She's not going to listen to this. Actually. The other day I go, which one of my videos is your favorite and she was like i don't watch them she was on the channel going i've never seen your videos actually i think she saw me put you in drag that's it okay you know we should tell people about okay people have seen me put you in drag on my youtube channel which you guys haven't seen
Starting point is 00:19:19 um we should tell people about the the night we had. We finished getting in drag. Mom's sitting there in makeup on the couch. And I'm like, we should go out later. And I'm like, I was in drag still. Yeah, and how many shots were we in until after? Because you were doing a photo shoot after. I had a photo shoot that day, didn't I? Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Yeah, so we had shots, middle of the day. I think we were probably done by 2 p.m. And I'm like, we should go out later. And so we did. So mom takes a nap on the couch with the full Trixie makeup on and no other drag. And she's sleeping with just my makeup on. And then we get in drag. We go to Hamburger Mary's West Hollywood. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:59 We sit in a booth and order drinks and food. And what did it feel like to be in drag out in the world? It was so much fun. And then you let them know that it had been my birthday the previous week. Oh, yeah. And I had to go up. They called me out. I had to go up on stage with three other women. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Remember that? How could I forget? You danced. Right. And I won the prize. Yeah. Yeah. So.
Starting point is 00:20:21 It was like a. It was like a. I had to shake my booty. Yeah. You had to shake your butt on stage yes you weren't scared no i was in drag i was having fun i was just i was mortified but but you weren't nervous at all no i was having a lot of fun did you feel like a totally different person in drag yes i did kind of i mean no i would you know of course inside you still if you're you
Starting point is 00:20:42 but you don't have to nobody's to ever see me like this ever again. These people I meet are never, ever going to see me again. And it also gives you some confidence, you know, you feel, you know, you're, you're dressed up, you know, you got all this makeup on. Did you feel beautiful? Yes. Yes. Remember that wig?
Starting point is 00:21:00 That wig was struggling all night. Yeah. I kept sliding off later in the night. You know why? Honestly, because I am not used to having to put real, have real hair under a wig. That wig was struggling all night. Yeah, it kept sliding off later in the night. You know why, honestly? Because I am not used to having to have real hair under a wig. Well, it's fine that we had that headband that we could kind of keep there. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And then you took me back to the dressing room. I got to meet all the ladies. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they were so nice. Everybody was just so very nice. And even at Amber Mary's, they were. Do you remember what happened when we tried to leave the club? Oh, yes.
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Starting point is 00:22:29 uber tell them what happened very short older man came over to me put his arm around me and start hitting on me because he thought you were a man in a dress yes so you guys my mom's standing there in if you're like a whatever if you've ever seen this outfit i have it's like a peach squirrel suit yeah like a patrick star yes kind of with like a headband my mom's outside and my mom you're short yeah how is he shorter than me how well i guess that's why maybe he i'm thinking to myself how could he have thought you were a man because you're like five two well but he was i had no i had flat shoes on because i couldn't and he had no heels with me that's right but he was shorter than me you wouldn't have made it in a heel and no i wouldn't have and then thank
Starting point is 00:23:21 god you two were there to save me he kept trying to tell this is a woman yeah i'm just we're standing away i mean we've also had drinks so my mom's being i think i think for how creepy he was being you were being extremely nice well i was i was just you could have slapped him not interested yeah because he didn't just come up and talk to you no he put his arm around me he put his arm around you yeah around your waist and you're like no no no and and then i'm going that's a woman that's a woman i just think it's funny can i He put his arm around me. He put his arm around you. Yeah, around your waist. And you're like, no, no, no. And then I'm going, that's a woman. That's a woman.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I just think it's funny. Can I just say this? And he put his arm around me too. Yes. I tried to save you. But I just think it's funny that I, you know, 6'5 and drag, like clearly a man. He went straight to you. He went straight to.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Maybe he was drunk. The woman of a certain age who is obviously a woman you looked like a drag queen but you obviously looked like a woman to me well that's because i'm your mother that's true it was so crazy then we got in the car and you ripped that wig off yes immediately anymore because it was crazy and i think we got home i don't remember if we ate i think we got food no we didn't and the hangover the next day was fierce horrible horrible horrible i still have like i have i have videos of you laid out on the laid out on the bed with the makeup still on sleeping sleeping that was rough i mean i want to ask you a question i don't think i've ever asked you
Starting point is 00:24:42 i i think that moms like you don't get enough credit where like when I told you I was gay you couldn't have cared less you were like so what no big deal well I kind of knew I was waiting for you
Starting point is 00:24:56 I wasn't going to call you up and say hey are you gay I probably honestly I don't know how I would have handled it. I probably started crying. I probably just started crying, but how come it's so easy for, don't you think as a mom, how do you think people turn out? So turn on their children like that? I don't know. I don't really know because, um, you, you know, you see it all the time, you know, your children are who they are.
Starting point is 00:25:25 They can't make the choice of who they want to be. Your children are who they are. And I raised you. I know. You also didn't raise me gay. No, I actually wasn't. You wanted Barbies. I wouldn't give you Barbies.
Starting point is 00:25:41 You wanted this. You wanted that. I wouldn't do that. Your grandma did. You know what, though? In the long run, it doesn't matter because you were going to be who you're going to be no matter what. I honestly think looking back, you didn't want me to have Barbies because, I mean, I had such an obsession with Barbie forever. You didn't want me to have Barbies, I think, because I think you knew the type of attention it would put on me at school.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I mean, a little boy with a Barbie is inviting bullying. I mean, my brother wasn't even that nice to me about it. No, he wasn't. And I'm living in a small town. I'll say this, though. I'm sure Dan doesn't listen to this, my older brother. He, on paper paper is all the things that is supposed to make somebody
Starting point is 00:26:28 really homophobic and he isn't no he's not I think I think it took him a little time well I think like auntie our aunt my mom's sister is that's probably why you were so accepting obviously your little sister was gay
Starting point is 00:26:43 when did you think auntie was gay. Right, right. When did you think Auntie was gay? Well, I should have known a long time when we were kids, yeah. It was the 70s. Did people even know what gay was, right? I mean. Yeah, but I kind of knew, like, there was certain, why is she always hanging out by this girl? Why is she acting like that, you know?
Starting point is 00:26:59 Especially when we're getting our, you know, tweens and stuff. But, you know, that's okay. And I don't know when I knew. She dated men for a while. And then she moved in. She dated women. She dated men. Back and forth.
Starting point is 00:27:12 So I don't know if there was a time when I actually knew or not. But honestly, even if you didn't have a gay sister, you're compassionate enough. You would have been accepting of that even if she wasn't in your life i think if i turn out gay and auntie wasn't in your life first yeah i think i would have been fine with it because i do too and part of it is i think my parents how they brought me up as well you know you're accepting you know my mom always used to say no kid you know asked to be brought in this world so that's why she was loving to everyone you know because you know everybody was a kid once i knew they wanted you know nobody asked to be brought
Starting point is 00:27:50 here yeah brought into the world by you know by people like me and yeah but i guess i wouldn't um i wasn't surprised and it doesn't bother me, you know. I guess I just have such a hard time understanding. Maybe I have a hard time understanding because, like I said, my family, nobody really ever made me feel like. Where they don't accept, where families don't accept. Right, that never happened to me. Right. Especially since my auntie was in my life. I knew that auntie being around, I wasn't going to come out as gay and everyone was going to say no.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Right. I honestly think I drummed it up to be something so much worse. And then it was, it was nothing. I was more worried about it than it actually turned out to be. Cause I think you were in shock when I said, yeah, when you called me and you told me I was driving to work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I kind of knew, you know? Yeah. I actually think looking back, I, I think I should have given you more credit. I shouldn't have got so afraid when like you've never you would have never given me one reason to believe it wouldn't have gone
Starting point is 00:28:50 perfect by saying it well i think i could have told you sooner maybe it was also too just so much there was so much going on where you know men and women who were coming out were getting so much you know slap back from their families that you know you were it was different it was a little bit pre the internet right i mean not i'm not pre the internet but like now kids are like gay in high school right gay middle school or bisexual or whatever you know it's different now it's more accepted i was not totally accepted everywhere but here it is you know i also called and told you i was gay because i had my first boyfriend oh that's what kind of pushed it too yeah that's the other weird thing is like i think straight
Starting point is 00:29:30 kids have you have your first boyfriend in middle school you talk to your mom about safe sex whatever you have all these milestones but for me my first boyfriend was in college so then it's like and i not only i'm gonna come out but i'm also having my first boyfriend was in college. So then it's like, and I not only am going to come out, but I'm also having my first boyfriend. You took a beautiful, you know, I took a beautiful date. Yes. You had a gorgeous girl.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Yeah. From another school even. I think. Yeah. This girl from another school. She was a catalog model. She was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Gorgeous. So pretty girl. Yeah. Yeah. She was really, really great. I don't know. I just think back and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:30:03 you really drummed it up for no reason. I could have you a lot more credit i think because it was no big deal i called auntie first crying i was like auntie goes brian she knows i'm sure she knows but you know you think it's like this secret that you nobody knows about your auntie's like total anti-drama she's not you know well you know people say is it's like this secret that nobody knows about. Well, your auntie is like total anti-drama. She's not, you know. Well, you know, people say, is it being gay? Is it nature or nurture? I came out, I was a gay child. I think you were, yes.
Starting point is 00:30:33 I mean, I liked pink stuff, glitter, My Little Pony Barbies. Yeah, from a very young age. I like to wear. You never were in, yeah. I like to wear girl clothes. You played with trucks and stuff a little bit, but that was more outside, like in the dirt building things with your cousin, you know, like filling it with dirt and running and dumping the dirt. You know, anybody, any little kid likes to do that sort of stuff. So, I mean, you weren't real fond of the racetracks and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:58 No, you weren't. And I hated fishing. And I still do. I don't like fishing either. I don't either. I love it's that's great that's it they find a passion for it but you know else you don't you don't like camping either do you no i don't me neither i don't mind like this summer i might go camping with your auntie and
Starting point is 00:31:19 you know franny and her family but she's got a pop-up camper that's got, you know, heat if we need it. It plugs in as electric. It's glamping. Yeah. Because, you know, I can't, I just, I'm not into camping. I lived. Are you trying to sleep on the floor?
Starting point is 00:31:35 No. No. And I lived in the north, north woods, you know, where walking in my backyard was better than camping, you know? That's what's so funny. I remember when I was a Boy Scout for a long time. Remember? Yeah. A long time. Probably till I's so funny. Remember when I was a Boy Scout for a long time, remember? Yeah. A long time.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Probably until I was like 14. Yeah, you were a Boy Scout for quite some time. And we would go to Boy Scout camps. Yeah. And those Boy Scout camps would be closer to big cities than where we lived. Yep. With like more amenities, like air conditioning. And I'm like, this is not camping.
Starting point is 00:32:01 At my house in the summer, remember remember grilling almost every day yeah because we had a wood stove and in the summer you don't want to cook inside nope nope you don't want to cook inside at all we had grills and even you really turned it out food wise i thought everybody's mom can cook that is not the truth no everybody can't cook you know but it was you cooked like a salad a side an entree a dessert like every it was like a full meal every day i'm gonna say i wouldn't say every day but most days yeah i did well don't you think when you were married to you were more like well we're cooking for more people all right well for a while there was cooking for six of us that was i mean i did dishes for six i know it was horrible that was one thing that i hate to say it i love that you and dan did the dishes i always made a deal with you guys i'll do them
Starting point is 00:32:53 one day a week you guys got rest yeah it was horrible i mean dishes for six people every day was a lot and now in the home you got us you have a a dishwasher, which is wonderful. Is your life changing? It is just wonderful to have a dishwasher. Do you do what grandma does? Do you basically completely wash the dish and put it in there? No, I just rinse it off. Thank God. It's got some gooey stuff on it.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Of course, I'm going to rinse it off because it probably ain't going to come off. I've seen people fully wash a dish and then put it in the dishwasher. I'm like, what are you doing? I have seen that before. And I'm like, you just need to rinse it off. You don't, I mean, in some stuff, you don't have to rinse it. I will put a whole plate with food on a dishwasher. I'll put a can of beans in there.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Yes, nothing's going to happen. I mean, I'm sure something will happen. But, well, I reached out on the internet and I asked people if they had any questions that they wanted to ask you. Because I figure, I don't know, you're my mom. It's hard to think of things to ask you. Because I feel like I already know so much. But a lot of them are just jokes. Did Trixie always laugh this loudly or is it a new thing?
Starting point is 00:33:56 I think it got more as you got performing more and just got out there. And as an adult and you were just like I said, you just put yourself out there more there more and i thought you were i think it made you more relaxed to be who you are yeah so that laugh i mean you were you were always fairly happy you know you're a happy kid you laughed but no this big laugh you got now is um i think results of just you know being more happier with yourself you're pretty happy too though i think we're very in common we're very like we always see the positive optimist i'm a realist but i'm also an optimist i'm like yeah this is horrible but there's always what can we control to any situation there's almost always an upside and also making the i'm thinking like were you ever in alcoholics anonymous
Starting point is 00:34:43 i did try it once you know how they have that thing i think in like were you ever in alcoholics anonymous i did try it once you know how they have that thing i think the alcoholics talk about it the the courage what is it the some the wisdom to accept what you can't change or whatever yeah yeah something like that their their creed they say i did it because i didn't think i needed but my boyfriend thought i needed so i tried it and it didn't work it wasn't for me it wasn't my thing really yeah how long did you go like a few months were you drinking a lot at the time i didn't think i was my boyfriend thought i was which boyfriend rich oh yeah really yeah that's crazy so i did did, you know, I just, the people were nice, but it just wasn't,
Starting point is 00:35:28 I didn't think I was at that, that, that air in that, in that, you know, that point. And maybe honestly, maybe poking your head in and seeing people maybe more advanced on that road.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Maybe it did. Maybe it was a step back or something. But you know, I always think i love drinking i it's always good to take a break and come back to it because i do think it's easy to let certain things become normal right i have a drink every night oh i have a drink uh three drinks a night you know it is good to like step out step back in like once a year take off a month you know once once a week once every two weeks
Starting point is 00:36:05 I'm going to fact check that you can't we had cocktails last night I got drunk and lost my wallet so I'm not here to judge anyone yeah we had a few cocktails last night and we got tired
Starting point is 00:36:19 people would be I think remiss if I didn't ask we don't really ever talk about it but what did how do I ask this people would be, people would be, I think remiss if I didn't ask, we don't really ever talk about it, but what, what did, how do I ask this? Do you ever regret not having my real dad in our life? No,
Starting point is 00:36:35 I don't. I don't either. No, I don't. I don't think you would, uh, add it to your lives. I feel like in movies and TVs,
Starting point is 00:36:43 it's always characters who are like, I'm obsessed. I want to be my real dad. Why don't I know my dad? I want to know my dad. I've never felt like that. You know, I don't think, I don't think you guys lost anything. You were fortunate enough to know his sister who was like my best friend for a long time. And you know, you guys, you know, you were fortunate to know her and she was, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:03 she was great. What was that like? Because, I mean, I'm not telling his business. I'm sure he's out there. I'm sure he's not listening. But he had drinking problems, right? Yes. And he was abusive.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Yes. How did you maintain a relationship with his sister after he was out of the picture? Were you guys just like, can we stay friends? His sister was the one who told me to leave him. Oh, really? And his sister, your grandparents, and her sister's roommate all showed up at my house one day to move us all out. Really? Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Because even people that close to him were like, it's not good. Right, right. That is crazy. Did I ever tell you that I met him once like it's not good right right that is crazy did i ever tell you that i met him once yes yes yes and i wasn't wasn't really keen about it but i thought well you know you have to do what you have to do you're an adult and you'll you'll have to make your own choices and i remember telling you just be careful it was it was when it was well our auntie grace my real dad's sister who was your best friend. It was when she was passing away in the hospital and was so sad. And she was such, she was so, so great. And I really
Starting point is 00:38:09 wanted to see her before she died, even though she was like, you know, intubated and everything. Um, but he was sitting there and it was so weird. And you know, what was weird? It was all this energy from his side. It felt like he felt so obviously hindsight. I got the sense that he had a lot of clarity about maybe what he's guilty of, what he could have done better. And I think he wanted sort of for me to, to meet him there and be like, it's okay. But I'm just sort of like,
Starting point is 00:38:39 I was in a pretty much one parent home where I was very satisfied with my one parent. So like you might have thought of me a lot, but like I didn't think of him at all. I still don't think of him. We, you know, I needed to put the distance between us. That's why we all moved up here. I needed to put that distance. It was unsafe for me not to put that distance.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I needed to. So that's part of why you moved to the country? Yes. Really? So he didn't know where you were either? You were kind of hiding? Well, he knew where I was, but I was 200 miles away. Over 200 miles away. Do you ever wish we grew up on the reservation?
Starting point is 00:39:18 No. I don't either. I don't want to be a traitor, but the reservation is beautiful. it's stunning gorgeous but it's it's really horrible it's different it's so different um different lifestyle and you know it's really i i want to say it's really horrible how i think the government just those people are just up there on their own there's a lot of substance and mental health issues and poor opportunities and there's nothing i think that those cycles are so aggressive and unchecked i just i don't
Starting point is 00:39:49 for me i i can't um there's so much there's so many layers behind that swiss goes on reservations in my opinion in my you know you know years and years of bullshit that's happened to you know the indigenous indigenous i always have trouble with that word i don't know you're you're an indigenous woman who can't say indigenous i can't some days i can say it fine other days i can't well do you prefer indian native american first nation indigenous native just native yeah so that's how i just say native and it's uh it's just first you know if you go back in history so many horrible things were done to horrible i mean just i mean literally genocide was tried to you know it was
Starting point is 00:40:33 tried and i mean listen i mean every every struggle is horrible and yeah when you look at the numbers of native americans and you look at the way history everything just went anyway the white people got here I mean when I was in high school learning history and you learn that the white people showed up and it's theirs you don't even process right it makes me think like on the reservation are they looking at the same history books do they learn the same history do they learn that basically like they got wiped out and deserved it like well then it's not that they deserve but on the other hand you got to look at it this way. This is history as well.
Starting point is 00:41:09 People come to other countries and they conquer that nation. Do you ever wish we were religious? No, I don't. To me, it's not something that just makes sense. I'm sorry. It doesn't make sense to me. I think if we were religious'll say this if we were religious i would have a lot more messed up i think i don't um it just i was baptized i was
Starting point is 00:41:34 raised catholic i did everything i was supposed to all my you know yeah stuff i was supposed to do my you know my sacraments everything and the whole time i'm like uh you know when you're little yeah you'd believe it all but as you get older you start thinking about it just doesn't make sense well there's a lot of indigenous people who are i like a lot of the if you're talking about like the religion and like the woo-woo of like native americans because certain things like oh the great circle when you die you go back into the earth that's also true right you do go back in there and it's um so i get into that and i believe you know but i don't believe like in the creator i believe in that the creator meaning mother earth nature because the creator they're
Starting point is 00:42:20 not saying the creator was it's not some woman in a robe in the sky. Right, exactly. It's truly just like the cycle. Right. But do I believe that the moon is a wolf? No. No. Do I believe the earth is a turtle? No. But I love the stories.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Exactly. Those are stories that were passed on from generation to generation. I like the stories. And I have certain feeds on my Facebook that provides me with powwow dancing, people in the regalia, stories, stuff like that, which I enjoy to read. I sometimes wish we knew more about it. I know Grandma always wanted us to learn more about it, but when you're a kid, it's just not interesting. Well, she teached us some when we were kids and some, you know. But she was also a Christian.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Right. So it's that weird thing where she was culturally, you know, like at her, that funeral, it's like we're talking about a Christian funeral sort of, but also indigenous practices going on, like feeding the fire. Right. Right. A lot of that went on. Can you tell them about that one?
Starting point is 00:43:23 I love the one about the fire. When people ask me about this kind of stuff, I always talk about when somebody dies, the fire, the food. Right. Well, I don't know all the projects because it wasn't. Your grandmother didn't teach us everything. Just that you are to have a fire going for seven days. And you need to feed them so many meals through those at that time to help them on their journey and that's what we do yeah so there's something about glasses too in front of the casket well you're not supposed to they're not supposed to um take reflections
Starting point is 00:44:01 there's glasses right there uh they believe long time ago that that stole your soul. Your soul couldn't travel if you had your glasses. That's what my mother told me. Tell them about your cousin who may or may not show up in pictures. Which one? I don't know which one you're talking about. Isn't Joey
Starting point is 00:44:19 like a shaman and doesn't show up in pictures? My cousin or my uncle. Oh, his uncle. Uncle, sorry. Yeah, well, I don't know if he shows up in pictures my cousin or my uncle his uncle uncle sorry yeah well i don't know if he shows up in pictures but he's like spiritual right yes he is he is so tell him about him how he when he was a kid grandma told me he would get like premonitions almost oh i didn't know about that oh yeah grandma told me when they were kids he would have dreams about things sometimes before they would happen and he was afraid to tell people and he would he would have dreams about things sometimes before they would happen and he was afraid to tell people and he would he would also have dreams about dead people and he was afraid to tell anyone
Starting point is 00:44:49 because he was afraid i don't remember that story uh it's crazy and then people say uncle al told me well uncle al could have been pulling my leg but he said like joey doesn't show up in pictures if you take a picture of him he doesn't show up well pictures. If you take a picture of him, he doesn't show up. Well, my Uncle Joe does. I have pictures of him. Long, beautiful hair. Yes, long black hair, yes. Long, beautiful hair. Yes, he lives out west, right.
Starting point is 00:45:15 When I was a kid, I hated living in the country, but as an adult, I'm really happy we lived there my whole life. I think for me, I had options to move. A company I worked for would have moved me back to the city was it gmc yeah gmac yeah they would have moved me back to the city and paid for everything but the options for raising you know a single parent raising two boys in the city you know on my salary was not just a good choice i thought thought. You'd have to guess I had to have been alone more up there. We had more family up there. Yeah. Anna Taylor wants to know,
Starting point is 00:45:51 Mom, were you a big makeup person when I was a child? I did like to wear a lot of makeup, yes. You kind of did. I worked in offices. Even when I went out, I liked to wear makeup. I remember watching you put makeup on.
Starting point is 00:46:04 You used to watch me, yes. It was magical. I remember watching you put mascara on you used to watch me yes it was magical i remember watching you put mascara on it was always like one of the last things you know you'd always curl your hair on top with iron however you're holding the iron and then you would let it cool and then you would kind of brush it straight back yeah and i remember you doing your lashes all the time and i remember watching and it was like so glamorous i mean putting on makeup is kind of a glamorous process don't you think yeah because it's kind of private, but also very showy. The tubes are all shiny. The colors are bright.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Right. When you're a kid, it's very magical. Did you ever watch Grandma do makeup when you were little? Yes. Yes. And she only wore makeup for special. She didn't wear a lot of makeup. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Well, she wore them when she went out. You could tell when it was special occasions because she'd do that. You know, they could do the do the do the big fancy do. I started there. Yeah, she do. That's the edibles. The third way of the edible. True Blue wants to know if you ever dropped me.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Oh, I'm sure I had. She's like, look at your head. Someone dropped you um when when did you first see me in drag when did i first see you in drag was it moving parts that tour was that the first time in person yeah yes that was the first time in person. Because even when you did the Rocky Horror Picture Show, even though I saw some of your stuff and I seen, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:29 I saw some of your stuff, I seen pictures. I never actually went to the show because it was at that time, things that were going on, like that's a little much for me. It was also midnight in Milwaukee. Right. And I lived up north.
Starting point is 00:47:43 And let's be honest. It's like, I love Rocky. It's like 90% drunk teenagers. Right. And I lived up north. And let's be honest. It's like, I love Rocky. It's like 90% drunk teenagers. Right. I mean. Well, that's when I first seen it. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:49:19 real spiffy at that time because it was not a corporate dress. Yes. It was, what do you mean? It was a corporate dress. You did like do you mean it was a corporate dress you did like the perfume and the hair every day and the makeup and i wore dresses you had like suit jackets and yes i did and nylons yes and heels and do you remember the remember the high heel incident when you guys put powdered sugar in my shoes what did you use to put in your shoes for sweat baby powder yeah baby powder and one day you said corn starch and you said why don't you guys do that for and we said you guys did it for me to do a favor you said you were playing a trick on me yeah so you're like oh mom i already got we already put powder
Starting point is 00:49:53 in your shoes for i'm like oh thank you guys then after i get work my feet start sweating i find out it's freaking powder it's just like sticky yes very sticky did you get home and i think you got home and you were like um um, that wasn't powder. I think you knew right away. Oh, yeah. I knew that you guys did it on purpose. We played jokes on each other. We did.
Starting point is 00:50:14 I don't know if you remember, but we played jokes on that. Yes. A lot of scaring. Our family's big on scaring kids. Val, do you ever wish that Trixie went down a different career path? If so, what would you have chosen instead? Well, I knew you were musical from a young age. I wouldn't say I wished you went on another career path.
Starting point is 00:50:32 I'm glad you've chosen what you want to do. But if I would have thought you would have done something else, I always thought if you weren't an actual performer for, in your own, and not in drag, but yourself, you didn't perform music on stage you would be writing music for the you know the superstars yeah yeah well that was remember in high school that was a i wanted to be a songwriter so bad you want to be a songwriter pop star so bad i know i mean i i would say i did want to perform but i wanted to write music professionally
Starting point is 00:51:03 really bad right but you only you remember talking to you about this and I talked to you about it and you said, if I write the song, I want to be the one performing it. Yeah. I mean, that is how I felt at the time. Right. At the time. Right. I probably don't feel that way anymore.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Well, because you're in this business. I think you know more, you know? Yeah. And I guess now I don't feel as much like I need to claim every single thing I do. You know? I don't always have to be the one on stage to feel like fulfilled. Right. I mean, you do.
Starting point is 00:51:32 You do a lot of stuff. A lot. And a lot of it's behind the camera. Yeah. What was the most difficult part about raising me? Was it the fact that I was in diapers until I was 25? No, you were very very you were actually i'm sorry brian was a very um easy easy easy kid he wasn't you weren't difficult at all did you ever
Starting point is 00:51:53 think maybe there's something wrong with me because i like i didn't cry right you did when you you had like colic well your grandpa would feed you peanuts and stuff like that or peanut butter and you weren't supposed to have that stuff why because it bothered your stomach when you were young oh you had a lot of issues ever since you had been born with um just having a lot of gas i was like can i say it that's what you're afraid to say is that i had gas as a baby yeah a lot of it so much that i'd be no even as a baby i never farted. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:52:26 But no, you were easygoing. You were so easy to, you know, you weren't real difficult. You did what you were supposed to do. You didn't cry a lot. You and your brother fought, yeah. Plus, I was a fabulous student for no reason. You were a very good student.
Starting point is 00:52:43 I was lucky that way. The only one I had trouble with in school was with Sam. fabulous student for no reason you're a very good student i was lucky that way the only i the only one i had trouble with in school was with sam yeah and dan well dan got in trouble in school but he was smart he'd like grade wise i should say i didn't like because like i didn't have to help you guys a lot with your homework because i just knew it well you know what i didn't like about school i like school but if i can if i know it and i can pass the test why is doing this homework important to you because for me it would be like my tests would all be a's right the homework would be a zero because i never did it and i'm like i know the material why is it important
Starting point is 00:53:19 to you that i sit home and write it like that was me in high school as well i could go in not be in my class school a lot not be in my class all week show up on friday for the test pass test and i'm done i did the same thing in college for my electives i'd show up for the study day learn the material and come back the next day and take the test and then be like see you in a month i mean i'm not coming back all right what's the sense what is the point yeah so anyway i was easy to raise i was perfect uh do you ever get recognized as my mom no great wait one time really oh no i didn't yeah i did that the other night at the at your show when the guy shared the bathroom with me in line he knew i was right i forget his name i don't know who that was the other night but yeah you were in the bathroom making friends
Starting point is 00:54:03 yeah he was talking to me in line and then was that your first time in an all-gender bathroom name. I don't know who that was the other night, but yeah, you were in the bathroom making friends. Yeah. He was talking to me in line and then... Was that your first time in an all-gender bathroom? Did you think for a second, did I go in the men's room? No, that was not the first time. I've also walked in the men's room before and said, oops, you don't have to go out the wrong room. I was high
Starting point is 00:54:19 and I was at Target. You were high at Target? Yes. I was there with Auntie. Being high at Target sounds kind of great. I was there with Auntie. Being high at Target sounds kind of great. I was there with Auntie. We were leaving, and she was going out first because I had to go to the bathroom. So I don't know. I was looking at Payne.
Starting point is 00:54:33 I was just kind of zoning. I was following this person. I thought it was a woman, but it was a man. And I followed him into the bathroom. And I see the girl. I'm like, oh. You know what? It's the opposite for me. when i've gone in the wrong bathroom
Starting point is 00:54:47 because i in drag i use the women's room but you know out of drag i go in the men's room if i've gone to the women's room on accident i'll go where are the urinals and it takes me a full beat to go like there are no urinals this is a women's room right how do you deal with my immense celebrity i think it's fabulous. I think it's great. I loved when we were out there, people would come up and say, hi, do you want your autograph? Stuff like that. Yeah. It doesn't really complicate your life or my life that much to be able.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Yeah. Cause it's not like I'm like Brooke Shields. Well, unfortunately a lot of people don't know. A lot of people, I mean, I, when I brought you i've brought you up like said i've had you know ex you know colleagues that are like oh my god because it's usually like the daughter right their daughter's a huge fan or something right or they are oh really you know so i had a supervisor who said i just found out tricksy was your mom i didn't know that if they found out tricksy was your mom yeah or vice versa you know they're know what I mean? They're Trixie's mom, you know?
Starting point is 00:55:45 They're like freaking out at my desk. And I'm like, okay. What's the worst thing I ever did growing up? I think I know what it is. I don't. Do you remember when I was in a plane with fire for a while? Just like a serial killer thing to say. You don't?
Starting point is 00:55:59 Okay, then it couldn't have been too bad. No, it wasn't that bad. But I always wanted to mess around with crap i know i remember having to yell at you because you were doing it in your bedroom was it or in the kitchen no i was like in my room and i was using legos and i was taking birthday candles and making like i think i was using the birthday candles in the legos for like like a castle or something so i was lighting candles with Legos as like part of the build. And I remember my brother walked in and goes,
Starting point is 00:56:28 it smells like matches in here. And I was like, I don't know. Which I mean, living in a flammable trailer from the seventies, you probably shouldn't even have candles in your house. Right, that probably wasn't good. Well, do you remember when we had the fire there? Yes, we were all sleeping. I think it was an electrical short, wasn't it well do you remember when we had the fire there uh yes we were all sleeping
Starting point is 00:56:45 yes i think it was an electrical short wasn't it it was i got up in the morning i heard water running like what is that noise i got up in the went in the kitchen and the cupboards were all blown open by the way no fire no fire detector we might have had one well they didn't go off right we're in a trailer it was just a very big and none of us woke up and it was on fire and yeah it was hot enough that it made the can a can under the sink explode which broke the water pipe which put the fire out yeah oh my god the aerosol exploded yeah which broke the water pipe that put out the fire. And it was started by electrical fire. Someone put a nail or a staple through a wire.
Starting point is 00:57:33 We could have all died. Yes, we could have. Easily. We could have, but we didn't. I don't know if we would have died. That seems extreme. Well, and you know... That trailer had multiple exits.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Right. It was old. No multiple exits. It sounded like it went trapped down. know that trailer had multiple exits right it was old no multiple exits like it's only when trapped yeah we had like yeah several exits um what do you think about me getting fired multiple times so i've been fired from like four different jobs i got fired from jobs you have yeah what'd you get fired from not showing up what job taco bell no you were taco bell i worked at cobel for quite some time when you're a teenager yep was it easy yep was free food yes but you just didn't show up well my job was i was the fryer that's all i came in and did was i fried all the taco shells all the tostada shells, all the crisp,
Starting point is 00:58:25 and I just put them in covered stainless steel bins and stacked them up. So once I got to learn, I knew when I would have to come and go. They didn't put me on a schedule. I just came in and I fried up enough for a day or two, and then I came back in a day or two
Starting point is 00:58:39 and did that again. And then I just got sick of it. So you stopped going? Yeah. And they were like like where are you? yeah they called me but I didn't answer so you know you don't show up you get fired oh my god
Starting point is 00:58:52 I think I was 16 oh that's not bad I think everybody should get fired once did you feel horrible? no I didn't like it anymore yeah never mind then I've been fired so many times and it sucks every time but
Starting point is 00:59:06 well but you found what you're good at that's the thing when I'm self-employed I can't fire myself also I'm extremely you could fire yourself and then just rehire yourself I used to be somebody who was late a lot I used to be messy
Starting point is 00:59:21 I'm now somebody who's pretty tidy and on time all the time but that's because when i started working for myself it was like a different level of accountability right right to me it was like five minutes late wasn't that big of a deal but if you work for a corporation five minutes late is a big deal to people no like my last job they gave you a seven minute leeway which was awesome for me did Did you use it a lot? Yes. When you first knew I was performing in drag, did you have any reservations? No, not really. Not an Indian joke.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Huh? Not an Indian joke. No, I did not. I did not because it was what you wanted to do. Yeah, you were chill vibes. You didn't care. Did you have regular birth or C-section? C-section.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Wow. All four of you. you all four same cut every time you and your brother were same cut and your sisters were saying different two different oh different it was like a decade later yeah wow well the truth is i like spending time with you and because you live in milwaukee now and i have a house here now we can actually see each other a lot more that is nice because I wasn't seeing you for probably once a year for five years yeah and I enjoy seeing you you're a lot of fun to be around and you know you're my son I love you I know but I'm a little bit of a loner too that's why I like you are you like to do your own thing and that's okay to be out of my own thing you know because sometimes too you know I don't like um I love my children dearly but now i got one that moved back home again who wasn't even was only out for six months
Starting point is 01:00:51 you know and i always told all my kids you can always come back home but but i don't want you to you can always come back home i just don't't want you to. Well, it's okay. It's okay. You know, the youngest is still learning her way, so it's okay. Well, thank you for coming and being on a very special Mother's Day edition of the podcast, The Bald and the Beautiful. Did you know it's called The Bald and the Beautiful? I did. Have you ever heard the podcast?
Starting point is 01:01:18 No, I haven't. Not yet. You know what? Something I really like about my mom is she appreciates it, but you're not a stalker. You don't need to see everything I do. And frankly, I talk about some pretty rough stuff. You do? I like knowing you're not listening.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Yeah. I don't watch everything. I do watch stuff. And sometimes it's just random. And when you come to the shows, I always give you a fair warning like, hey, it's pretty rough material. But I never changed the jokes because i'm like well she's here i'm an adult yeah it's not like i don't know at some point in life you have to accept that your mom can handle a dirty joke and your mom has you know when you're young you think your mom is like a nun and then you grow up and you're like oh that person is no yeah not Yeah, not a nun. Okay, bye.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Bye.

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