The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - A Cherry-Poppin' Christmas with Macy Rodman

Episode Date: July 27, 2021

Grab a bucket of starburst and crack open a bottle of diet pop. This week, artist, singer, actor, and IGTV Hall of Famer Macy Rodman joins the girls in the studio to discuss her Caitlyn Jenner Imperso...nation, Lana Del Rey-fueled Twitter Mobs, and the absolute insanity of Wendy Williams. This one is all over the place topic-wise, but it's about the journey, folks. Follow Macy: @MacyRodman Follow Macy/Caitlyn Jenner Updates: @CaitUpdate Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To listen to our podcast on YouTube: http://bit.ly/TrixieKatyaYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/baldandthebeautifulpodcast If you want to support the show, and get all the episodes ad-free go to https://thebaldandthebeautiful.supercast.com/ If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/baldandthebeautifulpodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:44 Eligibility and member terms apply. Macy Rodman, everybody. This is the incomparable Macy Rodman. Macy Rodman in the studio today, folks. Our very first in-person, in-house studio guest. It's beautiful. And not to sexualize you, but you walked into the room leg first. And that leg was seven foot long.
Starting point is 00:01:07 They're attached to my pussy. Legs, I saw legs, I saw a cap. And I was like, we're doing this today. We're in the Studio 71 studio. We're not in my living room. You're used to filming my living room. And it can be very primitive. Because I run the cameras
Starting point is 00:01:25 so it can get, the quality can go in and out. Yeah. I'm usually blurry or not in focus at all, which I prefer. There's one episode where I was like,
Starting point is 00:01:33 kind of like really well lit and gorgeous and this one was so out of focus. It was like, it was like, like about to be like a light, you know, a reenactment,
Starting point is 00:01:42 dramatic reenactment, but the camera just cut. It just cut. Yes. I love those reenactment, dramatic reenactment, but they can't, it just cut. It just cut. Yes. I love those reenactment shows where it's super blurry and super slow frames per second. Yeah. And they're like, no one knew
Starting point is 00:01:52 what she was doing behind closed doors and it's like a shadowy face like looking. Yeah, she's just back here, like rearranging some things. They're like, we didn't know, we don't know either. Reenactment actor. Yeah. That's a job.
Starting point is 00:02:03 That's a great job. That would be a great gig just to be a director. I only do dramatic reenactments of true crime events. Yeah. No lighting and just bad actors. And you also have to look like a person. So if you're an average actor and you're not a supermodel, it's probably a great option. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Because you have to look like a normal killer or a normal victim. Yeah. You can't have on your tailor Joy. Yeah. You have to look like a normal killer or a normal victim. Yeah. You can't have like, on your killer joy like. Yeah, you have to look like Aunt Lisa. Yes. Aunt Lisa the murderer. Aunt Lisa the murderer. So you're visiting from New York?
Starting point is 00:02:35 Mm-hmm. I can't believe we just magically got you here at the right time. I know. No, I've been planning it. Oh, she's manifesting this. I've been plotting. I've been plotting.
Starting point is 00:02:44 I have my little birds out in the whisper. Yeah. I don't know if you know that this person loves you so much that you should feel unsafe. And it's like, I don't know if you know that. I'm, this seating arrangement is to your benefit. Yeah. I am obsessed. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Obsessed. I'm obsessed. And it just, cause I have, I have a tendency to, you know, just when I, you know, KMS all the time and, and your videos really, I'm like, I'm like my, our fans with her.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Yeah. You were going to kill yourself. I was going to kill myself, but then I saw you eat sour cream and I'm okay. You know, like that's totally the vibe. She, she showed me some of your videos.
Starting point is 00:03:22 And at first I was just like, what? Um, She showed me some of your videos and at first I was just like, what a, um. First of all, I love a blatant, like, face filter. Oh, yes. Yeah, absolutely. Let's not do Hollywood special effects. Let's not.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Can we start getting in drag that way? Just a face filter? I would prefer it. I would prefer it. There's so many, like, we've tried to, like, figure out how to do how to do a screen with a phone to do some kind of a live event. It's just impossible. Yeah. It has to live in Snapchat.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Oh, no, no, no. No, no. I've got it. I've got it. You just have to have the right dramatic reenactment theatrical lighting. Oh, my God. You're absolutely right. So you're kind of backlit.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Yeah. You give the silhouette, and then with the voice, people will fill in the rest. We're obvious that people at home don't know, you have this brilliant, it's sort of your alt account, right? Kate Update. Do you want to tell the children what that is? So, oh God, when did I start doing it?
Starting point is 00:04:15 I just started doing her voice kind of after she was like, I love this show and she was a phenomenon for a moment. And so I just started doing Caitlyn Jenner impressions with, like, the Snapchat face swap filter. And, I don't know, she's become, like, she's kind of become, like, my impression of my dad. Because she's just, like, that's, like, that's her vibe is, like, weird dad. Or she is someone's weird old parent. Yeah. And so, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:42 It's just, like, she slowly became like more and more despicable in real life but like my impression is always like dopey old kate like you know so i don't know it's it's fun i mean was it i mean because people we do so funny we love it so much and i would would say that we do you as Caitlyn to each other once a day. Yeah. Yeah. All the time. I'll be home all my house.
Starting point is 00:05:10 All the time. My assistant walks in today. I said, hey, kiddo. Yeah. Literally this morning, I was like, I was putting the sugar in my coffee and I was like, cafe con azúcar. It's literally just like, it's just like a rolling bank of like, it's really good. And I'm at the point where like
Starting point is 00:05:25 she's not even Caitlyn to me anymore you are yes your Caitlyn is the only Caitlyn yeah yeah that's good I mean we need to replace her and also your Caitlyn
Starting point is 00:05:33 is more endearing at this point yeah yeah yeah and that's on period yes hunty yes hunty when so did you she was on that show she did
Starting point is 00:05:42 was so strange it was more the vibe of that show, science fiction directors strive for that level of surreal, like, unbelievable dystopia. Yeah, it was WandaVision. It was fucking WandaVision. It's like a fucking Republican trans woman, like, former Olympian. It sounds like Southland Tales or like some crazy movie. And then they bring in all of the like incredible
Starting point is 00:06:11 like trans women who've been doing this work for years to like teach her how to do it right. And she's just like, well, you know, throw on some lipstick and let's go on a road trip. We'll see what happens, you know? It's like- Kate Bornstein is like, literally, it's... Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:06:26 It was the amount of privilege that was, like, throughout the whole thing. Like, before the transition and then after and now with this education. Right. This education that no one would ever be... No college course would ever be privy to Kate Bornstein going, what about the freak factor? How do you feel about being a freak now? And Kate's like,
Starting point is 00:06:50 well, you know, we're trying to make it a little more normal. And it's like, everyone's just like, you don't know what you're doing. I know. I watched that show, of course, but I watching it for Candace.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Oh, yeah. Of course. I mean, I watch it for candace oh yeah of course i mean i watch everything for candace weird like forced like romantic storyline that they try to give like there was this fierce episode where they decide to go for a they tried to go dirt biking uh-huh and kate was sort of like i want to still be able to do my not girly things too so we're taking all the girls dirt biking you know it's a reality show they're dirt biking all it was was candace putting her helmet on and then taking it off and shaking her hair out and cheating to camera it was the manor tanner star booty commercial and she was so hot and just
Starting point is 00:07:38 kept taking that and just shaking the hair i'm like what why is everyone looking at me i did a gig with her once at a casino and it was like really poorly attended it was like me her lady bunny it was a really cute little cast and not many people came then afterward of course this guy comes up and he's like is your friend candace available for a party afterward up in my room and i was like oh i think she went to bed and he goes oh okay well you available? So he went from Candace to me. How long did it take? How long did it take?
Starting point is 00:08:08 Oh, my God. Seconds. He went from a goddess to SpongeBob in two seconds. Two seconds. I'm like, you didn't go, did you? I didn't go. You fucking bitch. I didn't go.
Starting point is 00:08:19 I knew I couldn't follow Candace. So I just got done with Bunny. He's like, I already ran through. And I think Raja was there, too. Oh, wow. And he thinks I already ran through Bunny and R I just got done with Bunny. Because they already ran through. And I think Raja was there too. Oh, wow. And he thinks they already ran through Bunny and Raja. And they said no. You're the last option.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Oh, my God. Does, I mean, I wonder if Caitlin knows about your Caitlin. I don't know. Because we did like a weird little zine with the New York Art Book Fair or whatever. And Zachary Drucker did a little thing in it. But she was like, she was like, I'll show Caitlin if I think she'll like it.
Starting point is 00:08:51 And if I don't think she will, then I just won't tell her about it and she'll never find out. Haven't heard anything. I mean, I don't... I would guess that she probably would not love. I don't think she would. I mean, in the zine,
Starting point is 00:09:04 it was like we were doing fake NRA ads. It was not a love letter. It wasn't like you, good beauty lighting. Hi, I'm Caitlyn. But then also, you know, we got the Tesla. It was just like, you know, weird. She's really rich. And really rich people don't always feel comfortable being joked about being very rich, especially because she's got this like she thinks that she's like altruistic.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Like she's trying to like cultivate this charitable facade or something. Yeah. I think that that would bum her out. Cultivate that. Yeah. Cultivate it. I mean, oh, yeah. I mean, she's she's toughate that. What? Yeah. Cultivate it. I mean, yeah, she,
Starting point is 00:09:45 I mean, she's, she's tough. Yeah. It's tough. It's, it's tough to, I always think of a person like her
Starting point is 00:09:52 or like, I don't know, like a Jenny McCarthy or a Kirstie Alley where it's like, you were set up for the LGBTQIAs to be obsessed with you.
Starting point is 00:10:01 You were, all you had to do was jump in the pool. Yes. And then you do some, you didn't have to jump in the pool, just like sit by the pool. Yeah. And then you do was jump in the pool. Yes. You didn't have to jump in the pool. You just like sit by the pool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:06 And then you do some Do nothing would be better. Some hard left shit that we cannot get on board with and it's like It's like Arrested Development level like every turn. You just like
Starting point is 00:10:16 it's like this unbelievable fuck up. Yeah. It's really next level. It's kind of cool. It's like how? It's bizarre. I mean like you know obviously like no person can speak for any group.
Starting point is 00:10:28 No trans person can be, like, a role model, you know, even. But does Caitlyn think of herself as a role model? I don't know if she does now. She definitely did at one point. She did at one point. At one time. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I mean, obviously, transitioning in the public eye and later in life has its own challenges. And that's obviously, you know. But her experience with those things aren't universal in any way and I think that's what makes it hard to be like but you don't speak for somebody else who's in a completely different tax bracket yeah yeah yeah yeah you know yeah I mean I get it
Starting point is 00:10:57 like going through transition it's like you like you're the only person in the world you know and then it's like oh after like a few years you're like only person in the world, you know? And then it's like, oh, after like a few years, you're like, oh, actually I'm not. Yeah, not that great. Yeah. When did that process start for you?
Starting point is 00:11:12 When I was 25, I'm 31 now. You do the math. What is that? 17 years. What is that, 15 years? That was 27 years ago. Yeah. That's fierce. And yeah, is your, 15 years? That was 27 years ago. Yeah. That's fierce.
Starting point is 00:11:27 And is your family supportive? You know, ish. Why did I just say that's fierce? She goes, I don't know, I was 31. I go, that's fierce. Work, 31, work. Yeah, I mean, they're not like, you know, God hates fags or anything. He does, but they don't do that.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I do. I certainly do. No, I mean, you know, I like, I don't talk to a lot of my family and my closest family. They're like pretty chill. So it's fine. Oh, that's good. Where did you grow up? Juneau, Alaska.
Starting point is 00:12:04 What the fuck and then i moved to new york when i was 18 i've been there ever since juno alaska yeah what's that like it's weird it's like i mean there's like the kind of paliny aspect to it um and then there's also like a hippie vibe because people come up from like portland and seattle to work and is it gay do you know no no right i think now it's a little more but they i don't know they installed like a rainbow sidewalk downtown are you buying it yeah i was gonna say that i'm at the point where i'm like um i was at the mall the other day and old or not ovany levi's not to put on last levi's uh i was at the the the mall and the Levi's had their pride stuff out
Starting point is 00:12:46 and the pride stuff was already out 40% off, like July 1st. Yeah. Bye gang. We waste no time. It's like Valentine's day or anything else. They're like, whatever. It's so weird.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Yeah. I don't, when you, that video, you're like, thanks for Exxon Mobil. The video of yours that we are completely obsessed with is the one where Caitlin is giving you a checklist to whether or not you're trans.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Oh yeah, because that's a real thing where she was like, What did she say? I haven't seen that one. That's a real thing? Not that, not really. Not that.
Starting point is 00:13:19 You're not reading a script. Yeah. I just read the press release. No, it was the trans kids in sports thing. Okay. And they were like, how do we know who's trans and just a guy trying to play basketball? Yeah, just a guy in a wig trying to get into the WNBA. Yeah, it's very she's the man, very Juana man.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Just one of the guys. There's a lot of that happening. People don't know. But she was like, I'll show you how to determine who's trans or not. I'll come up with a criteria or whatever. And I don't think any, like people obviously like
Starting point is 00:14:05 weren't living for that. The Caitlyn Jenner Criterion Collection. We need the Criterion Collection. Yeah! Oh my God, that list. It's like Blades of Glory and... Tootsie. Yeah!
Starting point is 00:14:20 Two movies, two movies. Oh my God. Two movies, two movies. Oh my God. Oh my God. Holy shit. Fucking A. So I want to know, what is this list though? I don't think it ever came out. She was just like, I'll do it.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And then people were like, I love you. Sure, Caitlin. She probably, yeah. She probably like released it to her like press people. And they were like, okay love you. I love you. Sure, Caitlin. She probably, yeah, she probably like released it to her like press people. And they were like, okay, we got it, yeah, I'm sending it out. God, a checklist. I mean, honestly,
Starting point is 00:14:54 I'm glad somebody probably stepped in and went, well, maybe you don't do that checklist. Yeah, maybe we'll give it to them. I always think with people like that, like it's someone's job to constantly like, Worry. Please don't say that. Please don't say that today. And just like appease them.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Be like, yeah, you're so right. But they're not going to get it. Right. To like placate them, but also like try to control fires in a way. Yeah. Like how firefighters like dig trenches to stop forest fires. That's what they're doing with someone's like tweets. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Like, oh, shitting traps so that they can't just like. They're like, sure, Kate, we'll get to the checklist tomorrow, but we have this Sephora thing we gotta do. Right. There's nothing more chilling than waking up to like, somebody from your management or something going, have you been on Twitter today?
Starting point is 00:15:37 Oh. And you're never like, are they throwing a party for me? Is it a fun hashtag? It's never anything like that. That's, yeah. Hashtag living for Trixie. We're living for you on Twitter, girl. They're all loving
Starting point is 00:15:47 you, honey. Yeah, anything. Whenever I get over like five notifications on Twitter, I'm like, some twink is like raging. Does anybody ever come at you for the hate online? I am like shudder to even say this. I said something, I said like
Starting point is 00:16:03 Lana Del Rey sucks or something on Twitter. And that was one of the most terrifying days of my life. You might as well have attempted to assassinate any president. They got some video of me online performing and put like hex videos on top, like weird satanic
Starting point is 00:16:20 symbols and shit. Some Tati Westbrook shit. You need to close the door and the spiritual is the door. Lana Del Rey reached the back
Starting point is 00:16:31 of her head. By the way, you're lucky. Not at my music business conference. By the way, you're lucky this one
Starting point is 00:16:38 didn't see your fuck Lana Del Rey tweet. I was like, I found your alt. She would have burned you alive. We were photographing. Lana Del Rey
Starting point is 00:16:44 and satanic imagery like. Do it together. It's have burned you alive. We were photographed. Lana Del Rey and satanic imagery. Do it together. It's the ding dong video. Yeah. It's the ding dong video. We were photographed once by Chuck. Grant. Chuck Grant, who is Lana Del Rey's younger sister.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Oh, uh-huh. Oh, I listened to that episode. Yes. I didn't know. And this one levitated across the room. Yeah, I was like, you know when you feel yourself like you know you're about to do something very bad and you're like, your super ego is trying to pull yourself back. It was that vibe.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Although ever since the Minuteman music conference, I'm done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've checked out. Yeah, I think she is like really testing the limits of her family. What's Minuteman? I'm done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've checked out. I think she is like really testing the limits of her fan base. What's Minute Man? So her new album, her latest album is like Blue Bonnets Over the Best Buy.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Blue Bonnets Over the Best Buy. Blue Bonnets Over the Best Buy. Shut the fuck up. I mean, let me get one thing clear. Blue Bonnets Over the Best Buy. We sort of stand. No, no no no I love
Starting point is 00:17:46 I love to make fun of them yes of course yeah and it's so you know that kind of like the Britney fandom how they're
Starting point is 00:17:55 they're so you know enamored and you know and defensive and they love her even though she's you know
Starting point is 00:18:01 that kind of thing with Lana it's the the evil version of that. Right, right, right. Like, it turns, it's so dark-sided. Yeah, like, when Mariah, like, on New Year's Eve had her thing and the Mariah people defended her, it's that times a thousand?
Starting point is 00:18:15 Yeah. For anything she does. Anything. And it's, because Lana, there's no humor in Lana's persona, really. Right, right. At all. And Britney's whimsical, Mariah's hysterical, but Lana is serious's persona, really. Right, right. At all. And Britney's whimsical. Mariah's hysterical.
Starting point is 00:18:26 But Lana is serious. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's serious. And, like, yeah, she, like, has this, like, darkness to her. So it's, like, those kind of people are drawn to her. Yeah. But it's funny because I loved the character. I loved the persona, like, the early, you know, in all those albums.
Starting point is 00:18:41 You know, the same 12 words and the same three chords. I love it. Like, dad in a dress and a whiskey. Like, the same 12 words and the same three chords. I love it. Like, Dad in a dress and a whiskey. Like, I know. It's trying to pass, crazy baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:50 And maybe it hit me at the right age too. Cause I remember Born to Die came out like, when I was like 19. So I think it just like worked at the time. And also nobody had done it. I'd never seen a music video like Born to Die or video games. It was, I mean,
Starting point is 00:19:01 Beautiful. Oh, video games was like a game changer. It was a game changer. Yes. But it's just she's morphed into, and you know, I don't like to we work in an industry where everybody has different situations. She's got to put down the pump. She's got to put down the pump. What pump?
Starting point is 00:19:17 The penis pump. Her clit's too big. I can see her clit through that white dress, honey. White dress, big clit's too big. She's so big. I can see her clit through that white dress, honey. White dress, big clit. Sorry. Sorry. She is such a beautiful woman. And I'm just like, you got to stop.
Starting point is 00:19:35 You got to stop. Fast track to Madonna. She's on a fast track to Madonna. We're going to get you canceled on this episode. I know. I'm going to get murdered before I go home. We're touching on all the people whose fandom are the most toxic and hitting them one by one. Now Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I don't care about, the face is whatever, but it's just all the stuff. Like, I don't want to see the lacy white cream camisole. I don't want to see the, you know, like the unbrushed hair. That's the real you and good for you. But I want to see the, you know, like the unbrushed hair. That's the real you. And good for you. But I want to see the, you know, the femme fatale. I mean, when she's good, it's so good. That cover photo for Lust for Life. I mean, her beauty is just ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Oh, with the... Yeah. I mean, she has beautiful hair, flowers, big, beautiful smile. I mean, come on. Also, that one had High by the Beach, right? Oh, yeah, baby. That video was so good. Yeah, just bam. I mean, come on. Also, that one had High by the Beach, right? Oh, yeah, baby. That video was so good.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah, just bam. Does that speak to you? People have cut that with the opening of Kate's show. Because it's that same, like, wispy, like, thing. I've seen a couple of them. It's like, Caitlin, when, like, such and such happens. And then it's like. I rode my bike down, like, the Fiorucci Boulevard. and such happens and then it's like I was I literally
Starting point is 00:20:45 I rode my bike down like the the Fiorucci Boulevard yeah like Redondo Beach Manhattan Beach listening to Lust for Life
Starting point is 00:20:53 yeah and like the sun was setting and I was on a little electric bike and I was I've never vibed so hard my entire life it was great
Starting point is 00:21:00 it's vibes as well but now but now it's just like I mean when it's good it's so good. And if you like it you'll love it because it's all the same. Yeah. And some of the, we always talk about
Starting point is 00:21:12 some of the remixes people do of the music are bops. Amazing. Oh that summertime sadness. Yeah. So good. You know the one. Yeah. Would she be your next character?
Starting point is 00:21:23 I think I would literally get murdered. You would because you could do her. I did her for one second in like a... I did a parody of the Gal Gadot thing. The like weird... The Imagine? Yeah. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:21:39 But we sang Black Hole Sun and it was a bunch of celebrities. I did one of those. I did a bunch of wigs and did the Imagine video and it got removed from TikTok because they considered it bullying. Are you kidding me? I'm dead serious. You know, Gal's publicist was like, bullying. Trixie called me fag, basically.
Starting point is 00:22:00 What the fuck was that fuckery? That video? That video. When I think of COVID in 20 years I'm not gonna remember people who have died I'm not gonna remember masks I'm gonna remember Kristen Wig staring at that camera going it's easy if you try
Starting point is 00:22:15 that was that was what made people go buy toilet paper yeah exactly oh this is serious it's over like the shelves were stocked everyone's skin Yeah, exactly. They're like, oh, this is serious. It's over. It's fucking over for us. Like, the shelves were stocked.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Everyone's skin was clear. Nobody had been hospitalized. That video came out. Death to all of them. Death to all of them. Do you love Wendy Williams? Yeah, of course. We keep talking about the best part of that video,
Starting point is 00:22:41 once you've watched it a thousand times, is the, oh, yeah. She, yeah. It was like the conviction and then the recoil. Once you've watched it a thousand times is the, Oh yeah. She, yeah. It was like the conviction and then the recoil. Oh my God. No, she's incredible. I like to save up like five episodes or so and then just go into full psychosis. Wait, wait, let's take a break. Oh, let's take a break.
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Starting point is 00:24:32 She went, oh. The publicist went, oh. I don't think there's a publicist. I don't, I mean, I think that she is like a bonfire surrounded by bricks and people are just, you know. Yeah, I think at this point it's like any of that just helps her. Cancel proof. It is cancel proof. Yeah. But they also could have
Starting point is 00:24:47 removed it and didn't. Well, exactly. It's not live television. It's not live on the scene. Right, Well, some of them are.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Really? Live. Yeah, totally. When she fainted. Oh, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Or the TikTok guy, like that gentleman's death. Did you see? Yes. Oh my fucking God. That was. I still can't believe I showed it to somebody yesterday or a couple days ago and it's two minutes long the setup yeah and they were like getting bored
Starting point is 00:25:12 and I was like just keep listening and then she says well he was murdered this weekend I was like it's unbelievable it's not funny it's not funny it's like crazy it's actually like worrisome yeah yeah yeah she did the same thing when her own mom died. And she was like, she was like, I was talking to my mom the other day and she was telling me if she really liked this dress.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And yeah, so she's dead. She's been dead for about four months. And I just, you know, wanted to tell you now. It's, it's, I now. It's the new world. Gal Gadot started it. Wendy Williams is continuing it. When you die, it'll get back to normal. I'm going to do Imagine.
Starting point is 00:25:59 I'm doing Imagine. Oh, my God. Imagine all the pee holes. Yeah. It was so wild. I just can't, that kind of like, out of touch. It's like, okay, things are really bad. Let's get all, let's sing.
Starting point is 00:26:12 We all sing part of a song and then, what's that mindset there? Peace, this'll bring peace to people. People want this. Back to the Caitlin thing too. The tax bracket thing makes certain things just not land. Oh, my God. You can't hide the mahogany sandalwood.
Starting point is 00:26:31 No. You can't hide your staff. Do you remember the... I think you've been on Ellen, right? No, no. No, Patty was. I... Yeah, I have.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I'm her. Well, I can no, Patty was. I, yeah, I have. I'm her. Well, I can't hide this anymore. If you reveal to that little Blair St. Clair, I will scream. My name's Ellen DeGeneres, and I've got something to say. I thought she did good. But do you remember, it was like the first COVID picture of her and she was on her patio
Starting point is 00:27:07 on this expansive land, like cry eyes. With the crying eyes? Yes. And it's just like, like the Caitlyn thing is like, when you're that rich, you just need to consider the instrument
Starting point is 00:27:17 and consider what somebody making less than $15,000 a year is going to think when they see that. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, it's wild. Yeah. If it's like, it's wild. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:26 If you feel like crying, like, imagine how we feel. Imagine how tired we are. Imagine how tired we are. Have you had any crazy celebrity run-ins? Because when I'm in New York,
Starting point is 00:27:38 I never see anybody famous here. But in New York, people walk the street. Yeah. Well, I've seen, I used to go to school in the West Village, and I would see Amy Sedaris all the time, and that was about, I mean, you know, never talked to her, but she was just like,
Starting point is 00:27:53 always like, just exactly, she was just fidgeting with something, walking a dog, like that was always really cool. Doing a character. Yeah, yeah. Pratt Falls. Yeah, probably just like acting. We were obsessed. We were obsessed with At Home with Amy Sedaris. What. We were obsessed with At Home with Amy Sedaris.
Starting point is 00:28:05 What? We were obsessed with At Home with Amy Sedaris. At Home with Amy Sedaris was great. I mean, Cola Scola is like so incredible. Chassie fucking Chassie. So good. And by the way, I mean, Almost No Makeup On looks gorgeous as her. Cole's incredible.
Starting point is 00:28:17 He has that. He's got the kids in the hall face where like you just put on. Put a wig on. If you had this bang on, it'd be like, man. You know? Yeah. It's like incredible so good
Starting point is 00:28:26 a few jokes too I love that show because they would do jokes that obviously were ever at the end of a day going is this joke really important we have to set up
Starting point is 00:28:33 this whole new shot for us to lean over and see that the top of their heads are bald oh my the like prosthetic of the balding head just all of that
Starting point is 00:28:40 it's like so worth it and then the finale with like Michael Sheen. Shannon. Michael Shannon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Charlie Sheen.
Starting point is 00:28:49 It was Charlie Sheen. She's revealed to be Charlie Sheen. Yes. And Denise Richards. Yeah. I think I told her about this. I watched Beverly Hills all through during quarantine. And there was this part where everyone was going like, well, Denise, it's like this.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Or like I was in this magazine or something. and it cuts to Denise Richards in a confessional She goes sometimes I think that some of these women forget that I'm fucking Denise Richards I've been on every magazine any of them would ever dream You sure see her on the Real Housewives and everyone's in glam Yeah, but she's always in jeans and a t-shirt yeah and then you go well she's like the sloppy one right now but she's did east richards and they're not why did she do it why did she is it feels like slumming it for her i'm sure it was fun fun and good money and yeah yeah she's a mom she's well the first season she was on she was like tried to be like fun mom she was like my husband's got a big dick let's drink tequila
Starting point is 00:29:45 yeah and then the second season she was like fucking no way like you don't get to come in here like it was the second season you could tell she was she was over it she watched her first season was like yeah i need to button it up a little bit yeah but then in the second season all the girls were like last season you were like wet and wild and now you're trying to be like yeah they would not let her forget was she the one trying to conceal a secret lesbian affair? Yes, with Brandy Lanville. Yeah, which who wouldn't? Who wouldn't fuck Brandy Lanville?
Starting point is 00:30:09 I mean, come on, Brandy, if you're watching this, gorgeous, stunning, AP tall model. We would all wanna fuck you. It doesn't even make you a lesbian, it makes you human. Period. Period. Period, boo! So we've obviously seen the Tatati Westbrook return to YouTube. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:30:29 It's like better than I ever could have imagined. Your next, next character is Tati. I don't know if I could do that one. You have to find a way. You're like, I can't suspend that level of disbelief within myself. No, we did her on, I mean, we were obsessed with her on Nympho Wars. Yes. You guys on Nympho Wars
Starting point is 00:30:47 gave a, like, Sucking Dick and Cot. It was like a, it was like a BBC, Ken Burns, like, post-doc thesis, like,
Starting point is 00:30:56 Behind the Music. Behind the Music deep dive into the drama. And just to, like, like, fags that we knew and, like,
Starting point is 00:31:03 trans girls that are obsessed with her like no actual professionals but it was very professional oh so you took Halo
Starting point is 00:31:10 yeah great get down here yeah we have a scientist here now yeah I'm still like it was just
Starting point is 00:31:20 so funny me and my friend Andrew would listen to the studio and like just howling howling howling howling and it's just it funny. Me and my friend Andrew would listen to the studio and like just howling, howling, howling, howling. And it's just, it's so bizarre. It's so bizarre.
Starting point is 00:31:29 This 40 year old woman and this 20 year old boy. But, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it was, it's like, it's still like mind blowing thinking that that happened. And then the return of her being like, uh yeah i am definitely haunted i broke up with my husband there was a weird switch up with the wedding ring i sold it i think like it's like yeah and close it trying to close the door to the spiritual realm you know what's sad i do watch
Starting point is 00:31:58 makeup videos i make makeup videos the quality of her videos the sound of her voice the way she reviews product i actually love it. She is good at going, these are the 10 best products from Revlon you need to buy today and here's why. She is good at her job. And so when you focus on the quality, it's like, she's amazing.
Starting point is 00:32:16 I mean, this is like free QVC in a way. I've never seen a person close the door, shut the door on the spiritual realm, looking that well lit. And she looks incredible. Oh my God. And she's a great makeup artist. The makeup she does is beautiful. person talk close the door shut the door on the spiritual realm looking that well lit oh my god and she's a great makeup artist and maybe she does beautiful yeah it's just crazy that again people are this close to being so great and then the hard left things like that whole thing i mean i know james i guess so i guess i'm biased but like you it's funny that like when you're gay
Starting point is 00:32:41 and you hit on someone who might be straight it's automatically an act of like sexual assault right right well having a gay person flirt on you is not the flirt on you i'm flirting on you have a gay person flirt is not the same as like yeah just wipe off your leg they're not flirting in a way that's like, oh, I guess over the line. I don't know. No, of course. No, she was like, she was like,
Starting point is 00:33:07 how dare you disrespect heterosexuality? I think was like her vibe with that. And I think that, I mean, the emphasis is of not only sucking dick, but also cock. But also the cock. But also cock.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I can't forget about that. Sucking dick and cock. We, yeah. That's another one I think I said about 400 times. And then the nympho Wars episode just kept repeating. Sucking dick and cock. Sucking dick and cock.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Do y'all still do Nympho Wars? We stopped because of COVID. And then we tried to do a crit. We'll probably do one. You saw the Imagine video. We saw the Imagine video. Wrap up the popper. The Kill Drag Race.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Three part? That one's two parts. Yeah, yeah, yeah killed, where's the killed drag race? Oh yeah. The three, three part series. That one's two parts. Yeah. That is a ride. Girl. That is a ride. Can I get one of those soda cups full of mayonnaise? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:54 That's, I mean, so, I mean, so is it Theta? Yes. Theta goes on drag race. And then.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Because I can't stop. I'm infected with like drag race. Oh yes. Because you get the lingo like, oh fierce. Because I can't stop, I'm infected with Drag Race lingo. Oh yes, because you get the lingo like, oh fierce, we're crying, and she can't, it's so funny. You go on Drag, and Theta goes on Drag Race to kill RuPaul. Right. Yeah, and so that the spell will be broken
Starting point is 00:34:16 and people don't have to stop talking annoying anymore. But then she's full of bugs. Right, but she kills all the judges too. Michelle, Carson, and Ross. And I think she kills Carson by finding him on Grindr in the hotel. And I mean, it's just lunacy. It's lunacy.
Starting point is 00:34:35 And she has to sacrifice her best friend, Poop. Poop shoot. Poop shoot. Also, the drive-through one, the number of fart sounds. Oh, my God. Are you putting these in in real time? Well, we've made them all with oatmeal and this. You're kidding.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Oh, no. Wow. They sound so like a soundboard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So at the end, Caitlyn Jenner is revealed to be one of the PAs or something. And then gives Neda a ride home. But you have to stop by Jack in the Box to order some and it's like a 20 minute
Starting point is 00:35:07 25 minutes of cheese crazy yeah just ordering pizza pizza and sour cream and also everything you ask for
Starting point is 00:35:14 they have yes they never were like no they don't have that I kept waiting for them to say no and they'd be like yeah we have that like ricotta cheese
Starting point is 00:35:23 and shit like yeah we have that like what whatotta cheese and shit. Like, yeah, we have that. Like, what? What Josh did? It's so funny. It's so funny. People have to listen. When you do your Kate videos, do you go into it?
Starting point is 00:35:32 I mean, you obviously see some, do you see something she does and then go like, I got to do my version of whatever that was? Well, like I, I try not to go with like the news cycle because it's like, it's honestly like too fucked up most of the time it's like too sad or or like just like you know she's being a terror yeah and so i like i mean i did the the list one but like i try to like only do it if i like think of something funny that like my kate would do right because then it like stays fun. Like I'm not trying to do like hard hitting satire, like really like, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:07 make the people think with comedy. It's like, no, you want to like hear whoop sounds. Yeah, you're not trying to like do a hot political take on her already. Right, gotcha Kate. Like she got herself. She got herself Gail. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:22 If anything, I feel like you're gonna have a humanizing effect on her. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, yeah. If anything, I feel like you're going to have a humanizing effect on her. Yeah, I'm doing the other. I'm on her PR team. So you did the Kate list of whether or not you're trans had some that were, I mean. I think I could probably list them all in order right now. Apple Paltrow called you a target. And then Jaden Dior Fierce.
Starting point is 00:36:42 When you said Jaden Dior Fierce, you said Jaden Dior Fierce I mean my hands were blown up I was like Zelda and Poltergeist like like just rocket
Starting point is 00:36:51 it was dead you have some evidence of you entering a day's end dressed as Theresa May like what in the fight sometimes you just
Starting point is 00:37:00 fall over this is gonna be so obnoxious but I can't help it. We just love it. We love you. What are you doing here in LA? So my stepsister was getting married in Palm Springs.
Starting point is 00:37:13 And then I went to LA after. Cool. Oh, Palm Springs is lit. Although, literally. God damn it's hot right now. It's so fucking hot. Yeah. I mean, they're from Juneau, so they were just like, it was like, we're outside for 10 minutes. And then they ordered Domino's pizza. And like, that was the wedding.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Oh, that sounds fantastic. Yeah, it was fun. It's a great wedding. Yeah. It's so beautiful, though. We love Palm Springs. Yeah. But I can't do that.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I mean, it's 120. I was just telling her I'm doing this motel renovation show there. And because of permits, they're like, we might have to push further into fall. I'm like, push it. Do it. Push it. Push it all the further into fall I'm like push it do it push it all the way into winter I was looking at the weather and it was like 1 in the morning in Palm Springs
Starting point is 00:37:51 and it was 100 in the dead of night we were in the parking lot at night and you could like feel it rising up from the fucking sidewalk it was crazy yeah I don't know how Bianca well that's how Bianca stays so thin. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Her place is fiercely air conditioned. Honey. But the bill. Mary. The electric bill. Oh my God. I bet. It's like $4,000.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I just got my air conditioner fixed. It's never been colder. Oh yeah. I was in my house. Do people not have ACs in LA? No, it's just mine was breaking like consistently and so it got it finally fixed. When I come into my house now, I also keep all the windows closed during the day.
Starting point is 00:38:30 That's the killer. I'm in my house in multiple sweaters. Yeah, I know. My AC is blasting 24-7. 24-7. Not a moment. Tracy knows, if we go somewhere and it's not air conditioned,
Starting point is 00:38:48 the mood in the room changes very quickly. That's when the spirit starts to dislodge from the body. I mean, it is rotten in Drake. Yeah, yeah. I can go from a Powerpuff Girl to Patsy Stone pretty quickly as far as demeanor. When it's hot, I'm like... Yeah, I go from Lisa Kudrow to the Crypt Keeper immediately. But also, it's like a switch, though,
Starting point is 00:39:12 because if I feel a bead of sweat, there's no going back. Tick, tick, tick. Because then I start to panic. Once it starts, it's really hard to stop sweating unless you truly sit in air conditioning and don't move for 20 minutes. Yeah, you have to take off the wig, like air it out.
Starting point is 00:39:29 When it gets hot, I turn into Michelle on the cover of her documentary. Did you know this? I haven't seen it yet. Michelle Visage on the cover of her documentary. I haven't seen the cover. I'm going to show it to you. She does a doc about getting her breast implants moved.
Starting point is 00:39:45 And the cover they chose, I haven't seen the film. I'm going to show it to you. She does a doc about getting her breast implants removed. And the cover they chose, I haven't seen the film, I'm sure it's great. The cover they choose. Oh my God. This is the cover. But hold on. She looks great, honestly. She's gorgeous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:54 And I'm sure it's a really interesting film. But it's so grim. Yeah, it looks like a Todd Haynes. Yeah, yeah. Palliative princess. It's like so bad. It's so grim and it's so like, Michelle. You survived.
Starting point is 00:40:09 It's seeking a friend for the end of the world. Yeah. It's really, it's so funny. What is that, A Fault in Our Stars about the sick girl? Oh my God. It's that. It's next level. You would think that this is a movie
Starting point is 00:40:19 about stage four leukemia. Did you see the Sarah Silverman on SNL thing where they were making fun of Fault in Our Stars and all those Walk to Remember movies? No. And it was like, yeah, he's like, oh, you have cancer? She's like, I have Ebola. And he's like...
Starting point is 00:40:34 Never mind. Oh, yeah, because in those movies, they never have something contagious, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those movies make me very sad. Contagious movies. No I watch any movie where
Starting point is 00:40:48 it's like teenagers and it's like a budding romance but one of them is horribly sick. I'm sucked in. I watch them on the planes a lot.
Starting point is 00:40:54 I'm just like what was the movie something in Earl and the dying girl. Do you know that one. Nobody. Girl with the dying ear.
Starting point is 00:41:01 I just love the dying ear. Crying on an airplane. Yeah. Crying on an airplane. Yeah. I mean I love what's the what's the saddest movie you've ever seen? What's the one that makes you like?
Starting point is 00:41:08 Stepmom. Stepmom is a little sad, though. It's so sad. Is it really? Oh, she dies. Yeah, yeah. Susan Sarandon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:18 And there's a replacement. Yeah, there's a part where she is talking to her daughter and just like telling her I'm going to die. Yeah. Or Solo in the 120 Days of Sodom. Shazam. Shazam. Shazam. Shazam.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Yeah, I thought of Space Jam too. What else? Air Bud. Air Bud. Clock Watchers was pretty bad. Oh my God. But Pitch Perfect. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Pitch Perfect 2. That was a real tearjerker. I just watched all of those during quarantine. I just, I made this wig and I was just like hand nodding like watching Pitch Perfect. Oh, yeah. Pitch Perfect 2. That was a real tearjerker. I just watched all of those during quarantine. I just, I made this wig and I was just like hand nodding, like watching Pitch Perfect. Do you like acapella singing? Love it. Do you really? No.
Starting point is 00:41:54 I hate it. It's like, yeah. Well, I don't hate, I mean, I don't, I don't know. I don't like, I don't think, I mean, shoot me in the eye, but I don't think like acapella or like an acapella choir, like a jazz choir, a swing choir or whatever. I don't want, I mean, shoot me in the eye, but I don't think like acapella or like an acapella choir, like a jazz choir, a swing choir or whatever. I don't want to see that. Why was that?
Starting point is 00:42:09 Why did that have such a moment? I don't know. Well, I mean. Oh, I think it's retro white nostalgia. Okay. It's also like that was their acapella was good because it was all about their creative mashups. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:23 And mashups are such a big part of like DJs and shit like that. Yeah, it was like EDM. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't know. Anna Kendrick. I mean, the singing is beautiful. There's some great singers in that movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Of course. And I hate that movie. Yeah. I don't like singers. So you have an album. I'm just kidding. Oh, yeah. Love me.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Yeah. The cover art. Stunning. Oh, yeah. Well. Is there a real picture? It's a real picture. Yeah. I mean,. Stunning. Oh, yeah. Well. Is it a real picture? It's a real picture. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:46 I mean, it's shopped, but. But like you're laid out and I was like, it almost looks like a drawing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, yeah. I mean, I got a bottom surgery over quarantine. So I was like. Just letting it out.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Letting it out. You're like, I need to lever. Everybody in your personal life. You're like, you're about to see this. Yeah, this is my Gucci bag. This is my Ferrari. No shit. Get used to it. You're all about to see it.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it too crazy for me to ask about what that was like? No, I mean, it was supposed to be a year. It was supposed to be like next year. Okay. And they moved it to September 2020 and they told me in July you got a Disney fast pass? I had to quit
Starting point is 00:43:30 smoking I had to like cold turkey because you need like two months for your circulation it like it doesn't heal right if you're smoking up until the day. Are you an enthusiastic smoker? So mid quitting we're like is this worth it? It's like I'll keep it.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Pussy. No, but yeah, so I mean, it was at NYU. It was totally paid for by New York Medicaid. It was bad. It was incredible. And like, I don't know, I got a really like lucky break because I know someone who went to the same surgeon same hospital the next week and They had like really fucked up recovery where they had to go back in and like but
Starting point is 00:44:13 Like honestly like three weeks later. It was like perfect pussy. You used up the last of the good energy You said that's my friend. I don't care what happens You said, that's my friend. I don't care what happens to her. But this better be right. You do a bump and get in there. And you didn't have to travel for it. I know a lot of girls have to do exotic trips.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Yeah. No, it was honestly like a staycation. Yeah, it was like I was on the East River. Just watching Moana over and over again on Painkillers. It was crazy. What was the recovery period? Three months. Okay. And then I got fucked
Starting point is 00:44:48 for the first time on Christmas. Work. Like couldn't be, like very poetic. It's a fairy tale. You're living a fairy tale life. Yeah, absolutely. Charmed life.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Absolutely. Damn. Yeah. Wow. Christmas came on time. Yeah. Also what an advantageous time to get it.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I know. Girl, what the fuck else is going on? Yeah. I wish I would've gotten more surgeries. Yeah. That's amazing. Also, what an advantageous time to get it. I know. Girl, what the fuck else is going on? Yeah. I wish I would have gotten more surgeries. But. I know I should get a pussy next time we go back. If we go into lockdown again, I'm going to get a pussy.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Yeah. I'm going to smoke, though. I'm going to smoke. I'll take my chances. During. During the surgery. Is everything going good? Are we done?
Starting point is 00:45:20 Yes. I'm tired. Yeah. So do you smoke cigarettes now? I do. When Do you smoke cigarettes now? I do. When did you start smoking cigarettes? 13, 14. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:30 How many cigarettes do you smoke a day? Average. 13 or 14. I'm pretty, I'm like, I've cut down to like maybe half a pack a day. Oh, that's great. Do you smoke it all the way to the filter? That depends. Uh-huh. Yeah. Sometimes I'll just take a few and,, that's great. Do you smoke it all the way to the filter? That depends. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Yeah. Sometimes I'll just take a few and, you know. Me too. This one with her TV money, I've seen her take two puffs and throw the damn thing. Yeah, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:54 it's like, because cigarettes are famously expensive. Oh, we have to go back in? Full cigarette. Throw it. Kiss it with a tree, a dry tree.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need dry brush. Oh, yeah. You have a collection of like dry leaves and garbage. It's an orphanage. No, I mean, it's like, I mean, they're famously expensive, but it's just, it's about the, it's not even about the, I need a cigarette. It's just that I need to get out of here for a moment.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Yeah, yeah. And sometimes it's just like a one or two can take you there. Yeah. It's the illusion it's like i need to feel like i have some control over my life through this horrible thing that's gonna kill me it's kind yeah it's it's kind of like better if you i don't know if you are like well i'm probably never gonna like quit ever like forever so then i can like stop for periods of time and then like get back to it like i don't know how like reading a book it's like reading a book yeah you put it down for a while yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:46:52 yeah i quit for a couple years and then i felt like i would never start again yeah and i sure did well when we did drag race for the first time you didn't walk in the smoker oh ginger really it was ginger this overnight turned back into like a pack a day. Well, being on a TV show, I'm sure. Yes, because for some reason still, and I don't know why, in life or in professional environments, it is acceptable to go have cigarette breaks. Yeah. Whereas if a person is like, I need to go look at the wall or like I to have my little muffin break or my little... Nothing. No. You can't do that. If I was in an office and I just said, I'm going to go stand
Starting point is 00:47:27 outside for 10 minutes, they'd be like, no, you're not. You're serious. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You think this is a joke? We're paying you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's somehow acceptable for people to be like... Well, addiction. Yeah, like, well, I'm addicted. It's like, well... Yeah. Great. Don't want you to go off the rails. Maybe you should go like to... I just got to go in the bathroom and shoot up for
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Starting point is 00:48:53 Yeah. Should we take our questions for Macy? Hi, Macy. Hi, Macy. I have a question for Kate. Kate, how many helicopters do you own? Full size or many? Important distinction.
Starting point is 00:49:09 What's the difference? Mini's like the size of a jar of mayonnaise. Real size or standard Blackhawk down, you know. Okay, and how, you don't really have much experience in politics yet you are you're running that's what you'd think but um i'd say uh fox news hannity all that stuff you know i've clocked in a lot of hours it's almost like a law degree almost kind of like a public service. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:45 I tell a lot of people what I think. Yeah. Kind of like a politician. Do you, what would be some of your policy? What's your platform? Well, I've said over and over again, we don't need health care. We don't need welfare. We can put that back into this train I'm working on.
Starting point is 00:50:07 This train that goes all the way around, up and down. It's going to be real good. But, you know, we can't keep paying people's bills and keeping their lights on. You know, they could just work at the train station. I don't know what people are, what's wrong with people these days, but you know, they just gotta,
Starting point is 00:50:30 you gotta put your back in. So, but sometimes people, you know, Caleb, people, you're born into money. You know,
Starting point is 00:50:41 you have a lot of money. Well, I wouldn't go that far. You know. Would you say that you're self-made? Well, you know you have a lot of money and you're i wouldn't go that far you know would you say that you're self-made well you know i guess you'd have to give my doctor some of the credit but for the most part you know my bank account speaks for itself i worked hard for that i ran a lot of a lot of laps jumped a couple of times. Oh, I have a question. Do you think Sha'Carri, Sha'Carri?
Starting point is 00:51:07 Sha'Carri. The athlete? Oh, oh, oh. Sha'Carri. Oh yes, recently there was a track and field athlete who was suspended for smoking weed. What do you think about that? What do you think about that?
Starting point is 00:51:21 Do you think they should let her be at the Olympics? In my day, we were smoking dope. We were rolling doobies, and nobody really knew about it. They didn't have CSI back then. So I feel bad for her. But, you know, I guess you've got to be careful. These kids are taking nudes and stuff on their phone. I just, you know, I don't know what to say.
Starting point is 00:51:42 I'm really sorry for that gal. Have you ever sent out a nude? Well, it was more of a sketch. And I think it was unsolicited, but, you know, it never resurfaced. I kept saying it. I kept saying it. Is it Shikari? with Shaqari, is it Shaqari? Is that how you say it? Shaqari.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Shaqari. I don't know. Obviously respect the athleticism. Electing to run in a wig. And nails. And nails. And lashes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Long, long lashes. Right? Welcome back. Oh my God, where did she go? She's in the bathroom. Sorry. How does she, I mean. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:52:26 I mean, that was such a tragedy that she got disqualified. Like, just. I mean, it's fucking legal everywhere. Like, what? Like, change the rule. Can you drink alcohol and be the Olympics? Of course. Do they test your blood for alcohol?
Starting point is 00:52:39 Well, you, I mean, but that goes away in what? A matter of hours. But I mean, marijuana doesn't do worse things to your body than alcohol. So that's what's backwards from the athletics viewpoint. It's like marijuana is not making anyone a better athlete. No, it's anything. It's like more impressive if you smoke weed and can like run like that. Yeah, she ran the fastest and she's got a huge coke problem.
Starting point is 00:53:00 You know, it's like, that's different. Yeah, it's different. I'll be out in a minute. You know, that's different. Yeah, it's different. Yeah. I'll be out in a minute. You know, that's different. Yeah, it's not fucking steroids. Like, what is the issue? I don't know. Yeah, there's a whole, I mean, but I guess it's like
Starting point is 00:53:13 more a morality clause or something like that. I don't know. She's also not white, which is a huge part of it. There are three athletes recently to be like banned from them because none of them are white folks of course yeah it feels super targeted
Starting point is 00:53:27 like it's hard to get necessarily like an informed decision or like POV on it because I know so little
Starting point is 00:53:34 about sports and athletics yeah that's why we're so good at talking about it that's why we're so I don't ever claim to be right
Starting point is 00:53:44 I just like talking if you could if you could be the best in the world I don't ever claim to be right. I just like talking. If you could be the best in the world at any sport for a year, would it be? I used to be on the swim team. I love swimming. Okay. But I'm not good at it anymore. No.
Starting point is 00:53:58 So, yeah. What was the swim team like? In high school? Yeah. It was fun. Do you guys listen? Because I always think I've never, I can't really even swim. When people swim laps. Really?
Starting point is 00:54:06 Not really. Oh. When people swim laps like that, you obviously don't have headphones in. Yeah. You're just, do people like it? Sometimes they play music in the pool. What? Like under the water.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Yeah. How do you do that? I don't know. They have speakers down there. You just plug it in and throw it in the water? Yeah. I got my iPod. Huge food box.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Just drop it in with the kids in the water. Yeah, I got my iPod. Huge food box just dropping with the kids in the water. Yeah, it's, it follows. I loved that movie. That's so fucking good. That was a really good one. It's so good. That movie got me together.
Starting point is 00:54:35 That's the one where you have to fuck, you gotta fuck someone to get rid of it. To get rid of it. Yeah, it's like an STD demon. STD like demon,
Starting point is 00:54:42 or is it a parable about something? Well, in real life when you have an STD, fucking people does not get rid of it. Let me tell you. Oftentimes spreads it. Oh, and then the naked man on the roof. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:52 That was the great shot. And the part where she's in high school in class daydreaming and she sees the woman walking across the- Chilling. It's a chilling like- So scary. Or the woman just comes in and she just starts pissing all over the floor in the kitchen. Yeah. I felt like that movie was a read of me for like my future.
Starting point is 00:55:10 It's like. You never get STIs. No, no. I'm the people. Like I'm the naked man on the roof. I'm the woman pissing. I'm the. It'd be so fun to play one of those.
Starting point is 00:55:19 I would. I would die. Yeah. It would be so great. Yeah. But we work at Netflix. We're always like, give us some walk-on, like Sabrina demon role in the back.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Let's just let us be gross for a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we're so used to being gorgeous. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, it's hard when you... I would love to make my dream, like my Hollywood dream would be like, try to do gigs until I'm 60.
Starting point is 00:55:42 I'll finally get one and it'll be like a Hannibal Lecter, like bit parts or something like that. I can get one and it'll be like a Hannibal Lecter bit parts or something like that. I can't wait to be like, on like unhuman, either very old and haggard or so much surge that I'm just like, I wouldn't think you would play like weird,
Starting point is 00:55:57 like David Lynch characters. David Lynch characters, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't look 31 though. What is, wait, you're 31. Maybe 25, maybe? You're 31. Maybe 25. You're 31. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I'm 31 and we're on different trajectories here. Well, you look like the cheese in the fridge you buy to replace the old cheese in the fridge. I look like the old cheese in the fridge. I've just recently gotten into injectables like a lot. Are you popping off? I've been going off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:22 I'm almost at level. Do you count that as work done? Because I feel that in LA people go, I haven't done anything done. But then they're pumped to hell and it's like. I do because I mean, I mean, well, I don't know. No, I don't know. I get Botox, but I never feel like that. Does that count?
Starting point is 00:56:39 I just think of work done as going under the knife. Do veneers count? That's going under the knife. Veneersers count? That's going under the knife. Veneers count. But that's a dental thing. Yeah. I love your veneers. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:56:52 I want veneers. I love them. They're so cool. I didn't think I had bad teeth, I guess living in delusion, but I liked my teeth. And then my doctor was like, oh, I saw you on TV. You're doing veneers. Oh, my God. So then they give me the temper. And you know why I knew I had bad teeth?
Starting point is 00:57:10 When they grabbed the video camera to show me in the mirror. I was like, okay, my teeth are so bad that this is where- What do you mean? They grabbed a video camera to watch me react to my own teeth. And that's- Oh, when they were done. I'm on like a Tyra meth makeover situation.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Oh shit. Oh my God. They're like, you're gonna wanna remember this. Yeah, on like a Tyra meth makeover situation. Oh, shit. Oh, my God. They're like, you're going to want to remember this. Yeah, they're like, we need a viral tear moment. I didn't know I was ugly. That kind of thing. You know what? I did cry, though. You did cry?
Starting point is 00:57:34 I liked my teeth. But when I saw these, I was like, ah! It was like, I just felt like, I don't know what. Nice teeth are such a luxury. I think of rich kids in high school who had, like, Invisalign and, like. Yeah, I could never get braces. Braces.
Starting point is 00:57:50 They're too expensive. Yeah. They are very expensive. They're, like, $2,000. Girl, Invisalign was $7,000. What? $7,000. Does it, it works?
Starting point is 00:57:59 And my teeth were, my teeth are $2,600 a tooth. And I got eight. That's the thing. Yeah. That's, it's a lot. But I also eight. That's the thing. Yeah. That's. It's a lot. But I also did Invisalign first to straighten the bottom row. So it was like that.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Oh, okay. It is. This is my Prius. Yeah. My teeth are my car. But this will last. They'll last. Eight or ten weeks.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Yeah. As long as you stay. And when I did with the bar fighting I do. I did Jimmy. I had the temporaries on. And then I did Jimmy Kimmel that night. What do you mean the temporaries? Because they make your teeth like overnight, the ceramic real teeth. So you have the little shaved down?
Starting point is 00:58:34 No, they put a temporary cap on them. The conehead nubs, or no. So like overnight, while someone overnight makes them, they put a temporary cap on your teeth so that they look normal. But you can't really chew hard food or anything. And I'm getting i guess when i get in drag i grind my teeth and i didn't know that so i'm putting makeup on getting ready for jimmy kimmel and i hear a snap and my front two teeth just crumble off yes i called the dentist's office and i go i have to go to jimmy kimmel in an hour and i don't have front teeth and they were like okay i don't think i've heard this before i can't believe i haven't just the before. Just the bottom snapped off.
Starting point is 00:59:05 So, I mean, it wasn't so noticeable. Like, it might have, okay, I'm fine. But by the way, I'm so country. I'm like, the front two teeth are missing. It wasn't bad. It was fine. It was cool. It wasn't noticeable.
Starting point is 00:59:16 I look like a hot girl from Florida. From Panama City Beach. And so then they come to, my dentist assistant and the other assistant come to my house and I'm in drag in my makeup room and they're gluing the teeth back on. Oh my God. Damn. It's acrylics.
Starting point is 00:59:31 It's press ons. Entirely. That was my plan B. Well, I just saw my dad for the first time in a long time and his teeth, I swear to God, are like short or then they like have shrunk. I'm like, you're chewing on rocks or something what is happening maybe he's filing them down
Starting point is 00:59:46 at night I love he's like Macy it's nice to see you you're like what is up with your teeth what is wrong with you teeth are tough
Starting point is 00:59:54 get veneers before you try to talk to me dad yeah I'm fully pumped right now you couldn't get up to veneer yeah
Starting point is 01:00:02 I think my teeth are gonna fall out one day all at once I think it's just gonna be like great great great great you don't up to veneer i think my teeth are gonna fall out one day all at once i think it's just gonna be like great great great great no girl no get you into this yeah lifelong smoker like chemical drug user i mean just sugar addict i mean my teeth are not perfect but i've never had a cavity i mean either yeah mary it's crazy meth smoking everything literally yeah everything no water yeah this is the first water i've had all month yeah it's crazy meth smoking everything literally everything no water this is the first water
Starting point is 01:00:26 I've had all month yeah it's crazy and then no like I haven't I went to seven years
Starting point is 01:00:33 without going to the dentist once and then I went I was like it's gonna be the wrecking ball they're gonna say okay we'll make an appointment
Starting point is 01:00:39 for the wrecking ball to smash your face and just nothing no cavities my mom got gingivitis and like had to get the whole
Starting point is 01:00:48 thing. Plaster or whatever to eat. Like the shit one. Plaster. Plaster. Drywall. She had to make them herself. It was plaster again. I walked in the kitchen and she had ripped up newspaper and glue. Yeah, they just
Starting point is 01:01:02 skittles and then paper mache. She had a bag of white M&M's and I. Yeah, they just went to Skittles and then threw it in the paper mache. She had a bag of white M&Ms and I was like, what are you doing? But the veneers are tough too though because sometimes they're so blindingly white and so perfect that it's like... Well, they told me some rules. They said you're not supposed to go
Starting point is 01:01:20 too much whiter than the whites of your eyes. So I should do like a red? Yeah, a gray round. like a red? Yeah. A gray round. A gray red. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. Well, I told them I said I wanted Wisconsin white, so LA gray.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Because I brought in pictures of drag race queens and said, this is what I don't want. Yeah. This is also what I don't want. Oh my God. Because the labels are jacked. They're blue. Blue white tiles. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Just perfectly in a row. It's great. And also being bald and a little old-looking, I've seen old, Caucasian, rich gay men who have two youthful of teeth. Yeah. And it's Five Nights at Freddy's. It's too much.
Starting point is 01:01:57 I love it. It's so good. When people have like... I think Taylor Swift got teeth around 1989 era, and they were just, they looked like those, like the like good toy teeth that like chomp up and down. She should have wrote.
Starting point is 01:02:10 You need to calm down before you get into this. To our dentist. Yes. You need to calm down. It's nice because you see them having to like, um, close their mouth. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:02:19 Like they have to like, yeah, they have to learn how to talk. Yeah. Yeah. New challenges. I think Fifi O'Hara, when we did All Stars 2, she had gotten her teeth maybe days before she left,
Starting point is 01:02:33 and she was still kind of trying to settle into them, couldn't close her mouth right. Although I got eight of them, and the dentist told me, she was like, when you get your teeth done and it changes your speech considerably it's because they're not good veneers that's what she said she said that it shouldn't change your
Starting point is 01:02:51 she said they shouldn't take up that much more space in your mouth they should be really like the same pretty much yeah but maybe that's just her being uppity yeah yeah maybe yeah saw that your friend can't talk cheap you know I don't know your ugly poor friend yeah I saw that your friend can't talk. Cheap. You know, I don't know. Your ugly, poor friend. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:07 I saw that they wanted to look like a rich person. If it was up to Caitlyn, everyone would have veneers. Yeah, that's true. In a helicopter. Yeah, that's her, like, foray into socialized medicine. Yes. Yeah, we'll get your teeth. Veneers and tits, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Instead of, like, what is it, Smile Club? The smile train where they're, like, fixing hair lips. She's in, like, the Serengeti giving people veneers and tits. Instead of like smile, what is it? Smile club, the smile train where they're like fixing hair lips. She's in like the Serengeti giving people veneers. No,
Starting point is 01:03:30 no, no drinkable water. She's flying in dentists and giving people veneers. Yeah, and like microdermabrasion. Lashes. Lashes.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Latisse. Latisse. Oh my God. All right. Well, I think we should probably wrap it up we are
Starting point is 01:03:46 we are so fortunate to have you oh my god thank you so much for coming I'm such a fan would you ever come back I had a blast
Starting point is 01:03:53 I don't know that's like when you have a hook up and you go we should do this again and whether or not the person wants to they have to go
Starting point is 01:04:01 yeah sure yeah let me get your number I'll find it somewhere i would love to do this again and then she pointed out to me like that doesn't mean anything because of course they're gonna say yes in front of you yeah you nobody's ever going to be like like forcefully confrontational to your face like, actually, this was not that great for me. That was, would you ever- Funny you should ask.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Yeah, yeah. Would you do this again? Absolutely not. Yeah, like, no fucking way, you fucking cheap tooth monster. Someone lied to her several times. This was so fun. Yeah, where- This was so fun.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Where to tell the children where they find you online. Oh yeah, at Macy Rodman on Twitter and Instagram, and my next single is called Rock and Roll Gay Guy, and it's coming out on August 5th on Accidental Popstar Records. Yes! And go stream Love Me, it's a great song. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:54 It was Rainbow Spotlight of the Week. It's gorge. Big poolside energy, poolside vibes. Yes, yeah. You give body, oddy, oddy, leg, leg, leg. It is so great in the videos, yeah. Awesome, thank you so much. Thank you! Yeah, and good luck oddy, leg, leg, leg, it is so great in the videos. Awesome. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Thank you. And good luck with the governor's race. Thanks. Thanks, girl. Bye. Vote, vote. Rock the vote. Bye.

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