The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - A Cherry-Poppin' Christmas with Macy Rodman
Episode Date: July 27, 2021Grab a bucket of starburst and crack open a bottle of diet pop. This week, artist, singer, actor, and IGTV Hall of Famer Macy Rodman joins the girls in the studio to discuss her Caitlyn Jenner Imperso...nation, Lana Del Rey-fueled Twitter Mobs, and the absolute insanity of Wendy Williams. This one is all over the place topic-wise, but it's about the journey, folks. Follow Macy: @MacyRodman Follow Macy/Caitlyn Jenner Updates: @CaitUpdate Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To listen to our podcast on YouTube: http://bit.ly/TrixieKatyaYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/baldandthebeautifulpodcast If you want to support the show, and get all the episodes ad-free go to https://thebaldandthebeautiful.supercast.com/ If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/baldandthebeautifulpodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Macy Rodman, everybody.
This is the incomparable Macy Rodman.
Macy Rodman in the studio today, folks.
Our very first in-person, in-house studio guest.
It's beautiful.
And not to sexualize you, but you walked into the room leg first.
And that leg was seven foot long.
They're attached to my pussy.
Legs, I saw legs, I saw a cap.
And I was like, we're doing this today.
We're in the Studio 71 studio.
We're not in my living room.
You're used to filming my living room.
And it can be very primitive.
Because I run the cameras
so it can get,
the quality can go in and out.
Yeah.
I'm usually blurry
or not in focus at all,
which I prefer.
There's one episode
where I was like,
kind of like really well lit
and gorgeous
and this one was so out of focus.
It was like,
it was like,
like about to be like a light,
you know,
a reenactment,
dramatic reenactment,
but the camera just cut.
It just cut.
Yes. I love those reenactment, dramatic reenactment, but they can't, it just cut. It just cut. Yes.
I love those reenactment shows where it's super blurry
and super slow frames per second.
Yeah.
And they're like, no one knew
what she was doing behind closed doors
and it's like a shadowy face like looking.
Yeah, she's just back here,
like rearranging some things.
They're like, we didn't know, we don't know either.
Reenactment actor.
Yeah.
That's a job.
That's a great job.
That would be a great gig just to be a director.
I only do dramatic reenactments of true crime events.
Yeah.
No lighting and just bad actors.
And you also have to look like a person.
So if you're an average actor and you're not a supermodel, it's probably a great option.
Yeah.
Because you have to look like a normal killer or a normal victim.
Yeah.
You can't have on your tailor Joy. Yeah. You have to look like a normal killer or a normal victim. Yeah. You can't have like, on your killer joy like.
Yeah, you have to look like Aunt Lisa.
Yes.
Aunt Lisa the murderer.
Aunt Lisa the murderer.
So you're visiting from New York?
Mm-hmm.
I can't believe we just magically got you here
at the right time.
I know.
No, I've been planning it.
Oh, she's manifesting this.
I've been plotting.
I've been plotting.
I have my little birds out in the whisper.
Yeah.
I don't know if you know that this person loves you so much that you should feel unsafe.
And it's like, I don't know if you know that.
I'm, this seating arrangement is to your benefit.
Yeah.
I am obsessed.
Oh my God.
Obsessed.
I'm obsessed.
And it just, cause I have, I have a tendency to, you know, just when I, you know,
KMS all the time and,
and your videos really,
I'm like,
I'm like my,
our fans with her.
Yeah.
You were going to kill yourself.
I was going to kill myself,
but then I saw you eat sour cream and I'm okay.
You know,
like that's totally the vibe.
She,
she showed me some of your videos.
And at first I was just like,
what?
Um,
She showed me some of your videos and at first I was just like, what a, um.
First of all, I love a blatant, like, face filter.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, absolutely. Let's not do Hollywood special effects.
Let's not.
Can we start getting in drag that way?
Just a face filter?
I would prefer it.
I would prefer it.
There's so many, like, we've tried to, like, figure out how to do how to do a screen with a phone to do some kind of a live event.
It's just impossible.
Yeah.
It has to live in Snapchat.
Oh, no, no, no.
No, no.
I've got it.
I've got it.
You just have to have the right dramatic reenactment theatrical lighting.
Oh, my God.
You're absolutely right.
So you're kind of backlit.
Yeah.
You give the silhouette, and then with the voice, people will fill in the rest.
We're obvious that people at home don't know,
you have this brilliant,
it's sort of your alt account, right?
Kate Update.
Do you want to tell the children what that is?
So, oh God, when did I start doing it?
I just started doing her voice kind of after she was like,
I love this show and she was a phenomenon for a moment.
And so I just started doing Caitlyn Jenner impressions with, like, the Snapchat face swap filter.
And, I don't know, she's become, like, she's kind of become, like, my impression of my dad.
Because she's just, like, that's, like, that's her vibe is, like, weird dad.
Or she is someone's weird old parent.
Yeah.
And so, I don't know.
It's just, like, she slowly became like more and more
despicable in real life but like my impression is always like dopey old kate like you know so
i don't know it's it's fun i mean was it i mean because people
we do so funny we love it so much and i would would say that we do you as Caitlyn to each other once a day.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All the time.
I'll be home all my house.
All the time.
My assistant walks in today.
I said, hey, kiddo.
Yeah.
Literally this morning, I was like, I was putting the sugar in my coffee and I was like,
cafe con azúcar.
It's literally just like, it's just like a rolling bank of like, it's really good.
And I'm at the point where like
she's not even Caitlyn to me anymore
you are
yes
your Caitlyn is the only Caitlyn
yeah yeah
that's good
I mean we need to replace her
and also your Caitlyn
is more endearing at this point
yeah yeah yeah
and that's on period
yes hunty
yes hunty
when so did you
she was on
that show she did
was so strange
it was more
the vibe of that show, science fiction directors strive for that level of surreal, like, unbelievable dystopia.
Yeah, it was WandaVision.
It was fucking WandaVision.
It's like a fucking Republican trans woman, like, former Olympian.
It sounds like Southland Tales or like some crazy movie.
And then they bring in all of the like incredible
like trans women who've been doing this work for years
to like teach her how to do it right.
And she's just like, well, you know,
throw on some lipstick and let's go on a road trip.
We'll see what happens, you know?
It's like-
Kate Bornstein is like, literally, it's...
Oh, my God.
It was the amount of privilege that was, like, throughout the whole thing.
Like, before the transition and then after and now with this education.
Right.
This education that no one would ever be...
No college course would ever be privy to Kate Bornstein going,
what about the freak factor?
How do you feel about being a freak now?
And Kate's like,
well, you know,
we're trying to make it a little more normal.
And it's like,
everyone's just like,
you don't know what you're doing.
I know.
I watched that show, of course,
but I watching it for Candace.
Oh, yeah.
Of course.
I mean, I watch it for candace oh yeah of course i mean i watch
everything for candace weird like forced like romantic storyline that they try to give like
there was this fierce episode where they decide to go for a they tried to go dirt biking uh-huh
and kate was sort of like i want to still be able to do my not girly things too so we're taking all
the girls dirt biking you know it's a reality show they're dirt biking all it was was candace putting her helmet on and then taking it off and shaking her hair out
and cheating to camera it was the manor tanner star booty commercial and she was so hot and just
kept taking that and just shaking the hair i'm like what why is everyone looking at me i did a
gig with her once at a
casino and it was like really poorly attended it was like me her lady bunny it was a really cute
little cast and not many people came then afterward of course this guy comes up and he's like
is your friend candace available for a party afterward up in my room and i was like oh i
think she went to bed and he goes oh okay well you available? So he went from Candace to me.
How long did it take?
How long did it take?
Oh, my God.
Seconds.
He went from a goddess to SpongeBob in two seconds.
Two seconds.
I'm like, you didn't go, did you?
I didn't go.
You fucking bitch.
I didn't go.
I knew I couldn't follow Candace.
So I just got done with Bunny.
He's like, I already ran through. And I think Raja was there, too. Oh, wow. And he thinks I already ran through Bunny and R I just got done with Bunny. Because they already ran through.
And I think Raja was there too.
Oh, wow.
And he thinks they already ran through Bunny and Raja.
And they said no.
You're the last option.
Oh, my God.
Does, I mean, I wonder if Caitlin knows about your Caitlin.
I don't know.
Because we did like a weird little zine with the New York Art Book Fair or whatever.
And Zachary Drucker did a little thing in it.
But she was like,
she was like,
I'll show Caitlin if I think she'll like it.
And if I don't think she will,
then I just won't tell her about it
and she'll never find out.
Haven't heard anything.
I mean, I don't...
I would guess that she probably would not love.
I don't think she would.
I mean, in the zine,
it was like we were doing fake NRA ads.
It was not a love letter.
It wasn't like you, good beauty lighting.
Hi, I'm Caitlyn.
But then also, you know, we got the Tesla.
It was just like, you know, weird.
She's really rich.
And really rich people don't always feel comfortable being joked about being very rich, especially because she's got this like she thinks that she's like altruistic.
Like she's trying to like cultivate this charitable facade or something.
Yeah.
I think that that would bum her out.
Cultivate that.
Yeah.
Cultivate it.
I mean, oh, yeah. I mean, she's she's toughate that. What? Yeah. Cultivate it. I mean, yeah,
she,
I mean,
she's,
she's tough.
Yeah.
It's tough.
It's,
it's tough to,
I always think of a person like her
or like,
I don't know,
like a Jenny McCarthy
or a Kirstie Alley
where it's like,
you were set up
for the LGBTQIAs
to be obsessed with you.
You were,
all you had to do
was jump in the pool.
Yes.
And then you do some,
you didn't have to jump in the pool,
just like sit by the pool. Yeah. And then you do was jump in the pool. Yes. You didn't have to jump in the pool. You just like sit by the pool.
Yeah.
And then you do some
Do nothing would be better.
Some hard left shit
that we cannot get on board with
and it's like
It's like Arrested Development level
like every turn.
You just like
it's like this
unbelievable fuck up.
Yeah.
It's really next level.
It's kind of cool.
It's like how?
It's bizarre.
I mean like you know obviously like no person can speak for any group.
No trans person can be, like, a role model, you know, even.
But does Caitlyn think of herself as a role model?
I don't know if she does now.
She definitely did at one point.
She did at one point.
At one time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, obviously, transitioning in the public eye and later in life has its own challenges.
And that's obviously, you know.
But her experience with those things aren't universal in any way and I think
that's what makes it hard to be like but you don't
speak for somebody
else who's in a completely different
tax bracket yeah yeah yeah yeah you know
yeah I mean I get it
like going through transition
it's like you like you're the only
person in the world you know and then it's like
oh after like a few years you're like only person in the world, you know? And then it's like, oh, after like a few years,
you're like, oh, actually I'm not.
Yeah, not that great.
Yeah.
When did that process start for you?
When I was 25, I'm 31 now.
You do the math.
What is that?
17 years.
What is that, 15 years?
That was 27 years ago.
Yeah. That's fierce. And yeah, is your, 15 years? That was 27 years ago. Yeah.
That's fierce.
And is your family supportive?
You know, ish.
Why did I just say that's fierce?
She goes, I don't know, I was 31.
I go, that's fierce.
Work, 31, work.
Yeah, I mean, they're not like, you know, God hates fags or anything.
He does, but they don't do that.
I do.
I certainly do.
No, I mean, you know, I like, I don't talk to a lot of my family and my closest family.
They're like pretty chill.
So it's fine.
Oh, that's good.
Where did you grow up?
Juneau, Alaska.
What the fuck and
then i moved to new york when i was 18 i've been there ever since juno alaska yeah what's that like
it's weird it's like i mean there's like the kind of paliny aspect to it um and then there's also
like a hippie vibe because people come up from like portland and seattle to work and is it
gay do you know no no right i think now it's a little more but they i don't know they installed
like a rainbow sidewalk downtown are you buying it yeah i was gonna say that i'm at the point
where i'm like um i was at the mall the other day and old or not ovany levi's not to put on
last levi's uh i was at the the the mall and the Levi's had their pride stuff out
and the pride stuff was already out 40% off,
like July 1st.
Yeah.
Bye gang.
We waste no time.
It's like Valentine's day or anything else.
They're like, whatever.
It's so weird.
Yeah.
I don't, when you, that video, you're like,
thanks for Exxon Mobil.
The video of yours
that we are completely obsessed with
is the one where Caitlin
is giving you a checklist
to whether or not you're trans.
Oh yeah,
because that's a real thing
where she was like,
What did she say?
I haven't seen that one.
That's a real thing?
Not that, not really.
Not that.
You're not reading a script.
Yeah.
I just read the press release.
No, it was the trans kids in sports thing.
Okay.
And they were like, how do we know who's trans and just a guy trying to play basketball?
Yeah, just a guy in a wig trying to get into the WNBA.
Yeah, it's very she's the man, very Juana man.
Just one of the guys.
There's a lot of that happening.
People don't know.
But she was like,
I'll show you how to determine who's trans or not.
I'll come up with a criteria or whatever.
And I don't think any,
like people obviously like
weren't living for that.
The Caitlyn Jenner Criterion Collection.
We need the Criterion Collection.
Yeah!
Oh my God, that list.
It's like Blades of Glory and...
Tootsie.
Yeah!
Two movies, two movies.
Oh my God. Two movies, two movies.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Holy shit. Fucking A.
So I want to know, what is this list though?
I don't think it ever came out.
She was just like, I'll do it.
And then people were like, I love you.
Sure, Caitlin.
She probably, yeah.
She probably like released it to her like press people. And they were like, okay love you. I love you. Sure, Caitlin. She probably, yeah, she probably like released it to her like press people.
And they were like,
okay, we got it, yeah, I'm sending it out.
God, a checklist.
I mean, honestly,
I'm glad somebody probably stepped in and went,
well, maybe you don't do that checklist.
Yeah, maybe we'll give it to them.
I always think with people like that,
like it's someone's job to constantly like,
Worry. Please don't say that.
Please don't say that today.
And just like appease them.
Be like, yeah, you're so right.
But they're not going to get it.
Right.
To like placate them, but also like try to control fires in a way.
Yeah.
Like how firefighters like dig trenches to stop forest fires.
That's what they're doing with someone's like tweets.
Yeah.
Like, oh, shitting traps so that they can't just like.
They're like, sure, Kate,
we'll get to the checklist tomorrow,
but we have this Sephora thing we gotta do.
Right.
There's nothing more chilling than waking up to like,
somebody from your management or something going,
have you been on Twitter today?
Oh.
And you're never like,
are they throwing a party for me?
Is it a fun hashtag?
It's never anything like that.
That's, yeah.
Hashtag living for Trixie.
We're living for you on Twitter, girl. They're all loving
you, honey. Yeah, anything.
Whenever I get over like five notifications
on Twitter, I'm like, some twink
is like raging.
Does anybody ever come at you for
the hate online?
I am like shudder to even say this.
I said something, I said like
Lana Del Rey sucks or something on Twitter.
And that was one of the most
terrifying days of my life. You might as well have
attempted to assassinate any president.
They got some video of me
online performing and put
like hex videos on
top, like weird satanic
symbols and shit.
Some Tati Westbrook shit.
You need to close
the door
and the spiritual
is the door.
Lana Del Rey
reached the back
of her head.
By the way,
you're lucky.
Not at my
music business
conference.
By the way,
you're lucky this one
didn't see your
fuck Lana Del Rey tweet.
I was like,
I found your alt.
She would have
burned you alive.
We were photographing.
Lana Del Rey
and satanic imagery like. Do it together. It's have burned you alive. We were photographed. Lana Del Rey and satanic imagery.
Do it together.
It's the ding dong video.
Yeah.
It's the ding dong video.
We were photographed once by Chuck.
Grant.
Chuck Grant, who is Lana Del Rey's younger sister.
Oh, uh-huh.
Oh, I listened to that episode.
Yes.
I didn't know.
And this one levitated across the room.
Yeah, I was like, you know when you feel yourself like you know you're about to do something very bad
and you're like, your super ego is trying to pull yourself back.
It was that vibe.
Although ever since the Minuteman music conference, I'm done.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've checked out.
Yeah, I think she is like really testing the limits of her family.
What's Minuteman? I'm done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've checked out. I think she is like really testing the limits of her fan base.
What's Minute Man?
So her new album,
her latest album is like Blue Bonnets Over the Best Buy.
Blue Bonnets Over the Best Buy.
Blue Bonnets Over the Best Buy.
Shut the fuck up.
I mean, let me get one thing clear.
Blue Bonnets Over the Best Buy.
We sort of stand.
No, no no no
I love
I love
to make fun of them
yes of course
yeah
and it's
so you know that kind of
like the Britney fandom
how they're
they're so
you know
enamored and
you know
and defensive
and they love her
even though she's
you know
that kind of thing
with Lana
it's the
the evil version of that.
Right, right, right.
Like, it turns, it's so dark-sided.
Yeah, like, when Mariah, like, on New Year's Eve had her thing
and the Mariah people defended her, it's that times a thousand?
Yeah.
For anything she does.
Anything.
And it's, because Lana, there's no humor in Lana's persona, really.
Right, right.
At all.
And Britney's whimsical, Mariah's hysterical, but Lana is serious's persona, really. Right, right. At all. And Britney's whimsical.
Mariah's hysterical.
But Lana is serious.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's serious.
And, like, yeah, she, like, has this, like, darkness to her.
So it's, like, those kind of people are drawn to her.
Yeah.
But it's funny because I loved the character.
I loved the persona, like, the early, you know, in all those albums.
You know, the same 12 words and the same three chords.
I love it.
Like, dad in a dress and a whiskey. Like, the same 12 words and the same three chords. I love it. Like,
Dad in a dress and a whiskey.
Like,
I know.
It's trying to pass, crazy baby.
Yeah.
And maybe it hit me at the right age too.
Cause I remember Born to Die came out like,
when I was like 19.
So I think it just like worked at the time.
And also nobody had done it.
I'd never seen a music video like Born to Die
or video games.
It was, I mean,
Beautiful.
Oh, video games was like a game changer.
It was a game changer.
Yes. But it's just she's morphed into, and you know, I don't like to
we work in an industry where everybody has different
situations. She's got to put down the
pump. She's got to put down the pump.
What pump?
The penis pump.
Her clit's too big.
I can see her clit through that white dress, honey. White dress, big clit's too big. She's so big. I can see her clit through that white dress, honey.
White dress, big clit.
Sorry.
Sorry.
She is such a beautiful woman.
And I'm just like, you got to stop.
You got to stop.
Fast track to Madonna.
She's on a fast track to Madonna.
We're going to get you canceled on this episode.
I know.
I'm going to get murdered before I go home.
We're touching on all the people whose fandom are the most toxic and hitting them one by one.
Now Taylor Swift.
I don't care about, the face is whatever, but it's just all the stuff.
Like, I don't want to see the lacy white cream camisole.
I don't want to see the, you know, like the unbrushed hair.
That's the real you and good for you. But I want to see the, you know, like the unbrushed hair. That's the real you. And good for you.
But I want to see the, you know, the femme fatale.
I mean, when she's good, it's so good.
That cover photo for Lust for Life.
I mean, her beauty is just ridiculous.
Oh, with the...
Yeah.
I mean, she has beautiful hair, flowers,
big, beautiful smile.
I mean, come on.
Also, that one had High by the Beach, right?
Oh, yeah, baby.
That video was so good. Yeah, just bam. I mean, come on. Also, that one had High by the Beach, right? Oh, yeah, baby. That video was so good.
Yeah, just bam.
Does that speak to you?
People have cut that with the opening of Kate's show.
Because it's that same, like, wispy, like, thing.
I've seen a couple of them.
It's like, Caitlin, when, like, such and such happens.
And then it's like.
I rode my bike down, like, the Fiorucci Boulevard. and such happens and then it's like I was I literally
I rode my bike
down like the
the
Fiorucci Boulevard
yeah
like Redondo Beach
Manhattan Beach
listening to Lust for Life
yeah
and like the sun was setting
and I was on a little
electric bike
and I was
I've never vibed so hard
my entire life
it was great
it's vibes as well
but now
but now it's just like
I mean when it's good it's so good.
And if you like it you'll love it
because it's all the same.
Yeah.
And some of the, we always talk about
some of the remixes people do of the music are bops.
Amazing.
Oh that summertime sadness.
Yeah.
So good.
You know the one.
Yeah.
Would she be your next character?
I think I would literally get murdered.
You would because you could do her.
I did her for one second in like a...
I did a parody of the Gal Gadot thing.
The like weird...
The Imagine?
Yeah.
Oh my God.
But we sang Black Hole Sun
and it was a bunch of celebrities.
I did one of those.
I did a bunch of wigs and did the Imagine video and it got removed from TikTok because they considered it bullying.
Are you kidding me?
I'm dead serious.
You know, Gal's publicist was like, bullying.
Trixie called me fag, basically.
What the fuck was that fuckery?
That video?
That video.
When I think of COVID in 20 years I'm not gonna remember people
who have died I'm not gonna remember masks
I'm gonna remember Kristen
Wig staring at that camera going
it's easy if you try
that was
that was what made people go
buy toilet paper
yeah exactly
oh this is serious
it's over
like the shelves were stocked everyone's skin Yeah, exactly. They're like, oh, this is serious. It's over. It's fucking over for us.
Like, the shelves were stocked.
Everyone's skin was clear.
Nobody had been hospitalized.
That video came out.
Death to all of them.
Death to all of them.
Do you love Wendy Williams?
Yeah, of course.
We keep talking about the best part of that video,
once you've watched it a thousand times, is the, oh, yeah.
She, yeah. It was like the conviction and then the recoil. Once you've watched it a thousand times is the, Oh yeah. She, yeah.
It was like the conviction and then the recoil.
Oh my God.
No, she's incredible.
I like to save up like five episodes or so and then just go into full psychosis.
Wait, wait, let's take a break.
Oh, let's take a break.
Let's take a break.
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Tim's and conditions apply. It's the death to all of them. Oh, oh. She is so, she's literally unfiltered.
It's just like, there's no, and I wonder if her producers like.
But that's what I'm saying.
Again, the publicist putting out fires.
She went, oh.
The publicist went, oh.
I don't think there's a publicist. I don't, I mean, I think that she is like a bonfire surrounded by bricks and people are just, you know.
Yeah, I think at this point it's like any of that just helps her.
Cancel proof.
It is cancel proof.
Yeah.
But they also could have
removed it and didn't.
Well,
exactly.
It's not live television.
It's not live on the scene.
Right,
Well,
some of them are.
Really?
Live.
Yeah,
totally.
When she fainted.
Oh,
right.
Yeah.
Or the TikTok guy,
like that gentleman's death.
Did you see?
Yes.
Oh my fucking God.
That was. I still can't believe I showed it to somebody yesterday
or a couple days ago and it's two minutes long
the setup yeah and they were like getting bored
and I was like just keep listening and then she says
well he was murdered this weekend
I was like it's unbelievable
it's not funny it's not funny it's like
crazy it's actually like worrisome
yeah yeah yeah she did the same thing when
her own mom died.
And she was like, she was like, I was talking to my mom the other day and she was telling me if she really liked this dress.
And yeah, so she's dead.
She's been dead for about four months.
And I just, you know, wanted to tell you now.
It's, it's, I now. It's the new world.
Gal Gadot started it.
Wendy Williams is continuing it.
When you die, it'll get back to normal.
I'm going to do Imagine.
I'm doing Imagine.
Oh, my God.
Imagine all the pee holes.
Yeah.
It was so wild.
I just can't, that kind of like, out of touch.
It's like, okay, things are really bad.
Let's get all, let's sing.
We all sing part of a song and then,
what's that mindset there?
Peace, this'll bring peace to people.
People want this.
Back to the Caitlin thing too.
The tax bracket thing makes certain things just not land.
Oh, my God.
You can't hide the mahogany sandalwood.
No.
You can't hide your staff.
Do you remember the...
I think you've been on Ellen, right?
No, no.
No, Patty was.
I...
Yeah, I have.
I'm her. Well, I can no, Patty was. I, yeah, I have. I'm her.
Well, I can't hide this anymore.
If you reveal to that little Blair St. Clair,
I will scream.
My name's Ellen DeGeneres, and I've got something to say.
I thought she did good.
But do you remember, it was like the first COVID picture of her
and she was on her patio
on this expansive land,
like cry eyes.
With the crying eyes?
Yes.
And it's just like,
like the Caitlyn thing is like,
when you're that rich,
you just need to consider the instrument
and consider what somebody
making less than $15,000 a year
is going to think when they see that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's like,
it's wild. Yeah. If it's like, it's wild.
Yeah.
If you feel like crying,
like,
imagine how we feel.
Imagine how tired we are.
Imagine how tired we are.
Have you had any
crazy celebrity run-ins?
Because when I'm in New York,
I never see anybody famous here.
But in New York,
people walk the street.
Yeah.
Well, I've seen,
I used to go to school in the West Village,
and I would see Amy Sedaris all the time, and that was about,
I mean, you know, never talked to her, but she was just like,
always like, just exactly, she was just fidgeting with something,
walking a dog, like that was always really cool.
Doing a character.
Yeah, yeah.
Pratt Falls.
Yeah, probably just like acting.
We were obsessed.
We were obsessed with At Home with Amy Sedaris. What. We were obsessed with At Home with Amy Sedaris.
What?
We were obsessed with At Home with Amy Sedaris.
At Home with Amy Sedaris was great.
I mean, Cola Scola is like so incredible.
Chassie fucking Chassie.
So good.
And by the way, I mean, Almost No Makeup On looks gorgeous as her.
Cole's incredible.
He has that.
He's got the kids in the hall face where like you just put on.
Put a wig on.
If you had this bang on, it'd be like, man.
You know?
Yeah.
It's like incredible
so good
a few jokes too
I love that show
because they would do jokes
that obviously
were ever at the end of a day
going
is this joke really important
we have to set up
this whole new shot
for us to lean over
and see that the top
of their heads are bald
oh my
the like prosthetic
of the balding head
just all of that
it's like so worth it
and then the finale
with like Michael Sheen.
Shannon.
Michael Shannon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Charlie Sheen.
It was Charlie Sheen.
She's revealed to be Charlie Sheen.
Yes.
And Denise Richards.
Yeah.
I think I told her about this.
I watched Beverly Hills all through during quarantine.
And there was this part where everyone was going like, well, Denise, it's like this.
Or like I was in this magazine or something. and it cuts to Denise Richards in a confessional
She goes sometimes I think that some of these women forget that I'm fucking Denise Richards
I've been on every magazine any of them would ever dream
You sure see her on the Real Housewives and everyone's in glam
Yeah, but she's always in jeans and a t-shirt yeah and then you go well she's like the sloppy one right now but she's did east richards and they're not why did she do
it why did she is it feels like slumming it for her i'm sure it was fun fun and good money and
yeah yeah she's a mom she's well the first season she was on she was like tried to be like fun mom
she was like my husband's got a big dick let's drink tequila
yeah and then the second season she was like fucking no way like you don't get to come in
here like it was the second season you could tell she was she was over it she watched her
first season was like yeah i need to button it up a little bit yeah but then in the second season
all the girls were like last season you were like wet and wild and now you're trying to be like
yeah they would not let her forget was she the one trying to conceal a secret lesbian affair?
Yes, with Brandy Lanville.
Yeah, which who wouldn't?
Who wouldn't fuck Brandy Lanville?
I mean, come on, Brandy, if you're watching this,
gorgeous, stunning, AP tall model.
We would all wanna fuck you.
It doesn't even make you a lesbian, it makes you human.
Period. Period.
Period, boo!
So we've obviously seen the Tatati Westbrook return to YouTube.
Oh, my God.
It's like better than I ever could have imagined.
Your next, next character is Tati.
I don't know if I could do that one.
You have to find a way.
You're like, I can't suspend that level of disbelief within myself.
No, we did her on, I mean, we were obsessed with her on Nympho Wars.
Yes.
You guys on Nympho Wars
gave a, like,
Sucking Dick and Cot.
It was like a,
it was like a BBC,
Ken Burns,
like,
post-doc thesis,
like,
Behind the Music.
Behind the Music
deep dive
into the drama.
And just to, like,
like,
fags that we knew
and, like,
trans girls that are
obsessed with her
like no actual
professionals
but it was
very professional
oh so you took
Halo
yeah
great
get down here
yeah
we have a scientist
here now
yeah I'm still
like it was just
so funny
me and my friend
Andrew would listen
to the studio
and like just
howling howling howling howling and it's just it funny. Me and my friend Andrew would listen to the studio and like just howling, howling, howling, howling.
And it's just, it's so bizarre.
It's so bizarre.
This 40 year old woman and this 20 year old boy.
But, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, it was, it's like, it's still like mind blowing thinking that that happened.
And then the return of her being like, uh yeah i am definitely haunted i broke up
with my husband there was a weird switch up with the wedding ring i sold it i think like it's like
yeah and close it trying to close the door to the spiritual realm you know what's sad i do watch
makeup videos i make makeup videos the quality of her videos the sound of her voice the way she
reviews product i actually love it.
She is good at going,
these are the 10 best products from Revlon
you need to buy today and here's why.
She is good at her job.
And so when you focus on the quality,
it's like, she's amazing.
I mean, this is like free QVC in a way.
I've never seen a person close the door,
shut the door on the spiritual realm,
looking that well lit.
And she looks incredible. Oh my God. And she's a great makeup artist. The makeup she does is beautiful. person talk close the door shut the door on the spiritual realm looking that well lit oh my god
and she's a great makeup artist and maybe she does beautiful yeah it's just crazy that again
people are this close to being so great and then the hard left things like that whole thing i mean
i know james i guess so i guess i'm biased but like you it's funny that like when you're gay
and you hit on someone who might be straight it's automatically an act
of like sexual assault right right well having a gay person flirt on you is not the flirt on you
i'm flirting on you have a gay person flirt is not the same as like yeah just wipe off your leg
they're not flirting in a way that's like, oh, I guess over the line.
I don't know.
No, of course.
No, she was like,
she was like,
how dare you disrespect heterosexuality?
I think was like her vibe with that.
And I think that,
I mean,
the emphasis is of not only sucking dick,
but also cock.
But also the cock.
But also cock.
I can't forget about that.
Sucking dick and cock.
We,
yeah.
That's another one I think I said about 400 times.
And then the nympho Wars episode just kept repeating.
Sucking dick and cock.
Sucking dick and cock.
Do y'all still do Nympho Wars?
We stopped because of COVID.
And then we tried to do a crit.
We'll probably do one.
You saw the Imagine video.
We saw the Imagine video.
Wrap up the popper.
The Kill Drag Race.
Three part? That one's two parts. Yeah, yeah, yeah killed, where's the killed drag race? Oh yeah. The three, three part series.
That one's two parts.
Yeah.
That is a ride.
Girl.
That is a ride.
Can I get one of those soda cups full of mayonnaise?
Yeah.
That's,
I mean,
so,
I mean,
so is it Theta?
Yes.
Theta goes on drag race.
And then.
Because I can't stop.
I'm infected with like drag race. Oh yes. Because you get the lingo like, oh fierce. Because I can't stop, I'm infected with Drag Race lingo.
Oh yes, because you get the lingo like,
oh fierce, we're crying, and she can't,
it's so funny.
You go on Drag, and Theta goes on Drag Race to kill RuPaul.
Right.
Yeah, and so that the spell will be broken
and people don't have to stop talking annoying anymore.
But then she's full of bugs.
Right, but she kills all the judges too.
Michelle, Carson, and Ross.
And I think she kills Carson by finding him
on Grindr in the hotel.
And I mean, it's just lunacy.
It's lunacy.
And she has to sacrifice her best friend, Poop.
Poop shoot.
Poop shoot.
Also, the drive-through one, the number of fart sounds.
Oh, my God.
Are you putting these in in real time?
Well, we've made them all with oatmeal and this.
You're kidding.
Oh, no.
Wow. They sound so like a soundboard.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So at the end, Caitlyn Jenner is revealed to be one of the PAs or something.
And then gives Neda a ride home.
But you have to stop by Jack in the Box
to order some
and it's like a 20 minute
25 minutes
of cheese
crazy
yeah just ordering pizza
pizza
and sour cream
and
also everything you ask for
they have
yes
they never were like
no they don't have that
I kept waiting for them to say no
and they'd be like
yeah we have that
like ricotta cheese
and shit
like yeah we have that like what whatotta cheese and shit. Like, yeah, we have that.
Like, what?
What Josh did?
It's so funny.
It's so funny.
People have to listen.
When you do your Kate videos, do you go into it?
I mean, you obviously see some, do you see something she does and then go like, I got
to do my version of whatever that was?
Well, like I, I try not to go with like the news cycle because it's like, it's honestly
like too fucked up most of the
time it's like too sad or or like just like you know she's being a terror yeah and so i like i
mean i did the the list one but like i try to like only do it if i like think of something funny that
like my kate would do right because then it like stays fun. Like I'm not trying to do like hard hitting satire,
like really like, you know,
make the people think with comedy.
It's like, no, you want to like hear whoop sounds.
Yeah, you're not trying to like do a hot political take
on her already.
Right, gotcha Kate.
Like she got herself.
She got herself Gail.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
If anything, I feel like you're gonna have
a humanizing effect on her. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, yeah. If anything, I feel like you're going to have a humanizing effect on her.
Yeah, I'm doing the other.
I'm on her PR team.
So you did the Kate list of whether or not you're trans had some that were, I mean.
I think I could probably list them all in order right now.
Apple Paltrow called you a target.
And then Jaden Dior Fierce.
When you said Jaden Dior Fierce, you said Jaden Dior Fierce I mean
my hands were
blown up
I was like
Zelda and Poltergeist
like
like just
rocket
it was dead
you have some evidence
of you entering
a day's end
dressed as
Theresa May
like what in the fight
sometimes you just
fall over
this is gonna be
so obnoxious
but I can't help it.
We just love it. We love you.
What are you doing here in LA?
So my stepsister
was getting married in Palm Springs.
And then I went to LA after.
Cool. Oh, Palm Springs is lit.
Although, literally. God damn it's hot right now.
It's so fucking hot. Yeah.
I mean, they're from Juneau, so they were just
like, it was like, we're outside for 10 minutes.
And then they ordered Domino's pizza.
And like, that was the wedding.
Oh, that sounds fantastic.
Yeah, it was fun.
It's a great wedding.
Yeah.
It's so beautiful, though.
We love Palm Springs.
Yeah.
But I can't do that.
I mean, it's 120.
I was just telling her I'm doing this motel renovation show there.
And because of permits, they're like, we might have to push further into fall.
I'm like, push it.
Do it. Push it. Push it all the further into fall I'm like push it do it
push it all the way into winter
I was looking at the weather and it was
like 1 in the morning in Palm Springs
and it was 100
in the dead of night
we were in the parking lot at night
and you could like feel it rising up from the
fucking sidewalk it was crazy
yeah I don't know how Bianca
well that's how Bianca stays so thin.
Yeah.
Her place is fiercely air conditioned.
Honey.
But the bill.
Mary.
The electric bill.
Oh my God.
I bet.
It's like $4,000.
I just got my air conditioner fixed.
It's never been colder.
Oh yeah.
I was in my house.
Do people not have ACs in LA?
No, it's just mine was breaking like consistently and so it got it finally fixed.
When I come into my house now, I also
keep all the windows closed during the day.
That's the killer.
I'm in my house in multiple sweaters.
Yeah, I know.
My AC is blasting
24-7.
24-7. Not a
moment.
Tracy knows, if we go somewhere and it's not air conditioned,
the mood in the room changes very quickly.
That's when the spirit starts to dislodge from the body.
I mean, it is rotten in Drake.
Yeah, yeah.
I can go from a Powerpuff Girl
to Patsy Stone pretty quickly as far as demeanor.
When it's hot, I'm like... Yeah, I go from Lisa Kudrow to the Crypt Keeper immediately.
But also, it's like a switch, though,
because if I feel a bead of sweat,
there's no going back.
Tick, tick, tick.
Because then I start to panic.
Once it starts, it's really hard to stop sweating
unless you truly sit in air conditioning
and don't move for 20 minutes.
Yeah, you have to take off the wig, like air it out.
When it gets hot, I turn into Michelle
on the cover of her documentary.
Did you know this?
I haven't seen it yet.
Michelle Visage on the cover of her documentary.
I haven't seen the cover.
I'm going to show it to you.
She does a doc about getting her breast implants moved.
And the cover they chose, I haven't seen the film. I'm going to show it to you. She does a doc about getting her breast implants removed. And the cover they chose, I haven't seen the film, I'm sure it's great.
The cover they choose.
Oh my God.
This is the cover.
But hold on.
She looks great, honestly.
She's gorgeous.
Yeah.
And I'm sure it's a really interesting film.
But it's so grim.
Yeah, it looks like a Todd Haynes.
Yeah, yeah.
Palliative princess.
It's like so bad.
It's so grim and it's so like, Michelle.
You survived.
It's seeking a friend for the end of the world.
Yeah.
It's really, it's so funny.
What is that, A Fault in Our Stars about the sick girl?
Oh my God.
It's that.
It's next level.
You would think that this is a movie
about stage four leukemia.
Did you see the Sarah Silverman on SNL thing
where they were making fun of Fault in Our Stars
and all those Walk to Remember movies?
No.
And it was like, yeah, he's like, oh, you have cancer?
She's like, I have Ebola.
And he's like...
Never mind.
Oh, yeah, because in those movies,
they never have something contagious, obviously.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those movies make me very sad.
Contagious movies.
No I watch
any movie where
it's like teenagers
and it's like a
budding romance
but one of them
is horribly sick.
I'm sucked in.
I watch them on the
planes a lot.
I'm just like
what was the movie
something in Earl
and the dying girl.
Do you know that one.
Nobody.
Girl with the dying
ear.
I just love the dying
ear.
Crying on an airplane.
Yeah.
Crying on an airplane.
Yeah.
I mean I love what's the what's the saddest movie you've ever seen?
What's the one that makes you like?
Stepmom.
Stepmom is a little sad, though.
It's so sad.
Is it really?
Oh, she dies.
Yeah, yeah.
Susan Sarandon.
Yeah.
And there's a replacement.
Yeah, there's a part where she is talking to her daughter and just like telling her I'm going to die.
Yeah.
Or Solo in the 120 Days of Sodom.
Shazam.
Shazam.
Shazam.
Shazam.
Yeah, I thought of Space Jam too.
What else?
Air Bud.
Air Bud.
Clock Watchers was pretty bad.
Oh my God.
But Pitch Perfect.
Oh yeah.
Pitch Perfect 2.
That was a real tearjerker.
I just watched all of those during quarantine.
I just, I made this wig and I was just like hand nodding like watching Pitch Perfect. Oh, yeah. Pitch Perfect 2. That was a real tearjerker. I just watched all of those during quarantine. I just, I made this wig and I was just like hand nodding, like watching Pitch Perfect.
Do you like acapella singing?
Love it.
Do you really?
No.
I hate it.
It's like, yeah.
Well, I don't hate, I mean, I don't, I don't know.
I don't like, I don't think, I mean, shoot me in the eye, but I don't think like acapella
or like an acapella choir, like a jazz choir, a swing choir or whatever. I don't want, I mean, shoot me in the eye, but I don't think like acapella or like an acapella choir,
like a jazz choir, a swing choir or whatever.
I don't want to see that.
Why was that?
Why did that have such a moment?
I don't know.
Well, I mean.
Oh, I think it's retro white nostalgia.
Okay.
It's also like that was their acapella was good
because it was all about their creative mashups.
Right.
And mashups are such a big part of like DJs and shit like that.
Yeah, it was like EDM.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I don't know.
Anna Kendrick.
I mean, the singing is beautiful.
There's some great singers in that movie.
Yeah.
Of course.
And I hate that movie.
Yeah.
I don't like singers.
So you have an album.
I'm just kidding.
Oh, yeah.
Love me.
Yeah.
The cover art.
Stunning.
Oh, yeah.
Well.
Is there a real picture? It's a real picture. Yeah. I mean,. Stunning. Oh, yeah. Well. Is it a real picture?
It's a real picture.
Yeah.
I mean, it's shopped, but.
But like you're laid out and I was like, it almost looks like a drawing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I, yeah.
I mean, I got a bottom surgery over quarantine.
So I was like.
Just letting it out.
Letting it out.
You're like, I need to lever.
Everybody in your personal life. You're like, you're about to see this.
Yeah, this is my Gucci bag.
This is my Ferrari.
No shit.
Get used to it.
You're all about to see it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is it too crazy for me to ask about what that was like?
No, I mean, it was supposed to be a year.
It was supposed to be like next year.
Okay.
And they moved it to
September 2020 and they told me in July
you got a Disney fast pass? I had to quit
smoking I had to like cold turkey
because you need like two months for your
circulation it like it doesn't
heal right if you're smoking up
until the day. Are you an enthusiastic smoker?
So mid quitting
we're like is this worth it?
It's like I'll keep it.
Pussy.
No, but yeah, so I mean, it was at NYU.
It was totally paid for by New York Medicaid.
It was bad.
It was incredible.
And like, I don't know, I got a really like lucky break
because I know someone who went to the same surgeon same hospital the next week and
They had like really fucked up recovery where they had to go back in and like but
Like honestly like three weeks later. It was like perfect pussy. You used up the last of the good energy
You said that's my friend. I don't care what happens
You said, that's my friend.
I don't care what happens to her.
But this better be right.
You do a bump and get in there.
And you didn't have to travel for it.
I know a lot of girls have to do exotic trips.
Yeah.
No, it was honestly like a staycation. Yeah, it was like I was on the East River.
Just watching Moana over and over again on Painkillers.
It was crazy.
What was the recovery period?
Three months.
Okay.
And then I got fucked
for the first time on Christmas.
Work.
Like couldn't be,
like very poetic.
It's a fairy tale.
You're living a fairy tale life.
Yeah, absolutely.
Charmed life.
Absolutely.
Damn.
Yeah.
Wow.
Christmas came on time.
Yeah.
Also what an advantageous time
to get it.
I know.
Girl, what the fuck else
is going on? Yeah. I wish I would've gotten more surgeries. Yeah. That's amazing. Also, what an advantageous time to get it. I know. Girl, what the fuck else is going on?
Yeah.
I wish I would have gotten more surgeries.
But.
I know I should get a pussy next time we go back.
If we go into lockdown again, I'm going to get a pussy.
Yeah.
I'm going to smoke, though.
I'm going to smoke.
I'll take my chances.
During.
During the surgery.
Is everything going good?
Are we done?
Yes.
I'm tired.
Yeah.
So do you smoke cigarettes now? I do. When Do you smoke cigarettes now?
I do.
When did you start smoking cigarettes?
13, 14.
Okay.
How many cigarettes do you smoke a day?
Average.
13 or 14.
I'm pretty, I'm like, I've cut down to like maybe half a pack a day.
Oh, that's great.
Do you smoke it all the way to the filter?
That depends. Uh-huh. Yeah. Sometimes I'll just take a few and,, that's great. Do you smoke it all the way to the filter? That depends.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Sometimes I'll just take a few
and, you know.
Me too.
This one with her TV money,
I've seen her take two puffs
and throw the damn thing.
Yeah, you know,
it's like,
because cigarettes
are famously expensive.
Oh, we have to go back in?
Full cigarette.
Throw it.
Kiss it with a tree,
a dry tree.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I need dry brush.
Oh, yeah.
You have a collection of like dry leaves and garbage.
It's an orphanage.
No, I mean, it's like, I mean, they're famously expensive, but it's just, it's about the,
it's not even about the, I need a cigarette.
It's just that I need to get out of here for a moment.
Yeah, yeah.
And sometimes it's just like a one or two can take you there.
Yeah.
It's the illusion it's like i need to feel like i have some control over my life through this horrible thing
that's gonna kill me it's kind yeah it's it's kind of like better if you i don't know if you
are like well i'm probably never gonna like quit ever like forever so then i can like stop for
periods of time and then like get back to it like i don't
know how like reading a book it's like reading a book yeah you put it down for a while yeah yeah
yeah i quit for a couple years and then i felt like i would never start again yeah and i sure did
well when we did drag race for the first time you didn't walk in the smoker oh ginger really
it was ginger this overnight turned back into like a pack a day.
Well, being on a TV show, I'm sure.
Yes, because for some reason still, and I don't know why, in life or in professional environments, it is acceptable to go have cigarette breaks.
Yeah.
Whereas if a person is like, I need to go look at the wall or like I to have my little muffin break or my little... Nothing. No.
You can't do that. If I was in an office and I just said, I'm going to go stand
outside for 10 minutes, they'd be like, no, you're not.
You're serious. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You think this is a joke?
We're paying you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's somehow acceptable for people to be like... Well, addiction.
Yeah, like, well, I'm addicted. It's like, well...
Yeah. Great. Don't want you to go off the rails.
Maybe you should go like to...
I just got to go in the bathroom and shoot up for
10 minutes.
Yeah, we all know how much I love accommodating addicts.
Let's take a break. Yeah.
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Thank you, Macy, for joining us.
Let's have some more riveting conversation.
Yeah.
Should we take our questions for Macy?
Hi, Macy.
Hi, Macy.
I have a question for Kate.
Kate, how many helicopters do you own?
Full size or many?
Important distinction.
What's the difference?
Mini's like the size of a jar of mayonnaise.
Real size or standard Blackhawk down, you know.
Okay, and how, you don't really have much experience in politics yet you are
you're running that's what you'd think but um i'd say uh fox news hannity all that stuff
you know i've clocked in a lot of hours it's almost like a law degree almost
kind of like a public service.
I don't know.
I tell a lot of people what I think.
Yeah.
Kind of like a politician.
Do you, what would be some of your policy?
What's your platform?
Well, I've said over and over again, we don't need health care.
We don't need welfare.
We can put that back into this train I'm working on.
This train that goes all the way around, up and down.
It's going to be real good.
But, you know, we can't keep paying people's bills and keeping their lights on.
You know, they could just work at the train station.
I don't know what people are,
what's wrong with people these days,
but you know,
they just gotta,
you gotta put your back in.
So,
but sometimes people,
you know,
Caleb,
people,
you're born into money.
You know,
you have a lot of money.
Well,
I wouldn't go that far.
You know.
Would you say that you're self-made? Well, you know you have a lot of money and you're i wouldn't go that far you know would you say that you're self-made well you know i guess you'd have to give my doctor some of the credit but for the
most part you know my bank account speaks for itself i worked hard for that i ran a lot of
a lot of laps jumped a couple of times. Oh, I have a question.
Do you think Sha'Carri, Sha'Carri?
Sha'Carri.
The athlete?
Oh, oh, oh.
Sha'Carri.
Oh yes, recently there was a track and field athlete
who was suspended for smoking weed.
What do you think about that?
What do you think about that?
Do you think they should let her be at the Olympics?
In my day, we were smoking dope.
We were rolling doobies, and nobody really knew about it.
They didn't have CSI back then.
So I feel bad for her.
But, you know, I guess you've got to be careful.
These kids are taking nudes and stuff on their phone.
I just, you know, I don't know what to say.
I'm really sorry for that gal.
Have you ever sent out a nude?
Well, it was more of a sketch.
And I think it was unsolicited, but, you know, it never resurfaced.
I kept saying it.
I kept saying it. Is it Shikari? with Shaqari, is it Shaqari?
Is that how you say it?
Shaqari.
Shaqari.
I don't know.
Obviously respect the athleticism.
Electing to run in a wig.
And nails.
And nails.
And lashes.
Yes.
Long, long lashes.
Right?
Welcome back.
Oh my God, where did she go?
She's in the bathroom.
Sorry.
How does she, I mean.
Yeah, I know.
I mean, that was such a tragedy that she got disqualified.
Like, just.
I mean, it's fucking legal everywhere.
Like, what?
Like, change the rule.
Can you drink alcohol and be the Olympics?
Of course.
Do they test your blood for alcohol?
Well, you, I mean, but that goes away in what?
A matter of hours.
But I mean, marijuana doesn't do worse things to your body than alcohol.
So that's what's backwards from the athletics viewpoint.
It's like marijuana is not making anyone a better athlete.
No, it's anything.
It's like more impressive if you smoke weed and can like run like that.
Yeah, she ran the fastest and she's got a huge coke problem.
You know, it's like, that's different.
Yeah, it's different.
I'll be out in a minute.
You know, that's different. Yeah, it's different. Yeah. I'll be out in a minute. You know, that's different.
Yeah, it's not fucking steroids.
Like, what is the issue?
I don't know.
Yeah, there's a whole, I mean, but I guess it's like
more a morality clause or something like that.
I don't know.
She's also not white, which is a huge part of it.
There are three athletes recently to be like banned from them
because none of them are white folks
of course
yeah it feels
super targeted
like
it's hard to get
necessarily like
an informed decision
or like
POV on it
because I know
so little
about sports
and athletics
yeah
that's why we're so good
at talking about it
that's why we're so
I don't ever claim
to be right
I just like talking
if you could if you could be the best in the world I don't ever claim to be right. I just like talking.
If you could be the best in the world at any sport for a year, would it be?
I used to be on the swim team.
I love swimming.
Okay.
But I'm not good at it anymore.
No.
So, yeah. What was the swim team like?
In high school?
Yeah.
It was fun.
Do you guys listen?
Because I always think I've never, I can't really even swim.
When people swim laps.
Really?
Not really.
Oh.
When people swim laps like that, you obviously don't have headphones in.
Yeah.
You're just, do people like it?
Sometimes they play music in the pool.
What?
Like under the water.
Yeah.
How do you do that?
I don't know.
They have speakers down there.
You just plug it in and throw it in the water?
Yeah.
I got my iPod.
Huge food box.
Just drop it in with the kids in the water. Yeah, I got my iPod. Huge food box just dropping with the kids in the water.
Yeah, it's,
it follows.
I loved that movie.
That's so fucking good.
That was a really good one.
It's so good.
That movie got me together.
That's the one
where you have to fuck,
you gotta fuck someone
to get rid of it.
To get rid of it.
Yeah, it's like
an STD demon.
STD like demon,
or is it a parable
about something?
Well, in real life
when you have an STD, fucking people does not get rid of it.
Let me tell you.
Oftentimes spreads it.
Oh, and then the naked man on the roof.
Yes.
That was the great shot.
And the part where she's in high school in class daydreaming and she sees the woman walking across the-
Chilling.
It's a chilling like-
So scary.
Or the woman just comes in and she just starts pissing all over the floor in the kitchen.
Yeah.
I felt like that movie was a read of me for like my future.
It's like.
You never get STIs.
No, no.
I'm the people.
Like I'm the naked man on the roof.
I'm the woman pissing.
I'm the.
It'd be so fun to play one of those.
I would.
I would die.
Yeah.
It would be so great.
Yeah.
But we work at Netflix.
We're always like, give us some walk-on,
like Sabrina demon role in the back.
Let's just let us be gross for a while.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because we're so used to being gorgeous.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, you know, it's hard when you...
I would love to make my dream,
like my Hollywood dream would be like,
try to do gigs until I'm 60.
I'll finally get one
and it'll be like a Hannibal Lecter,
like bit parts or something like that. I can get one and it'll be like a Hannibal Lecter bit parts
or something like that.
I can't wait to be like,
on like unhuman, either very old and haggard
or so much surge that I'm just like,
I wouldn't think you would play like weird,
like David Lynch characters.
David Lynch characters, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't look 31 though.
What is, wait, you're 31.
Maybe 25, maybe? You're 31. Maybe 25.
You're 31.
Really?
Yeah.
I'm 31 and we're on different trajectories here.
Well,
you look like the cheese in the fridge you buy to replace the old cheese in the fridge.
I look like the old cheese in the fridge.
I've just recently gotten into injectables like a lot.
Are you popping off?
I've been going off.
Yeah.
I'm almost at level.
Do you count that as work done?
Because I feel that in LA people go, I haven't done anything done.
But then they're pumped to hell and it's like.
I do because I mean, I mean, well, I don't know.
No, I don't know.
I get Botox, but I never feel like that.
Does that count?
I just think of work done as going under the knife.
Do veneers count?
That's going under the knife. Veneersers count? That's going under the knife.
Veneers count.
But that's a dental thing.
Yeah.
I love your veneers.
Thank you.
I want veneers.
I love them.
They're so cool.
I didn't think I had bad teeth, I guess living in delusion, but I liked my teeth.
And then my doctor was like, oh, I saw you on TV.
You're doing veneers.
Oh, my God. So then they give me the temper.
And you know why I knew I had bad teeth?
When they grabbed the video camera to show me in the mirror.
I was like, okay, my teeth are so bad that this is where-
What do you mean?
They grabbed a video camera to watch me react
to my own teeth.
And that's-
Oh, when they were done.
I'm on like a Tyra meth makeover situation.
Oh shit. Oh my God. They're like, you're gonna wanna remember this. Yeah, on like a Tyra meth makeover situation. Oh, shit.
Oh, my God. They're like, you're going to want to remember this.
Yeah, they're like, we need a viral tear moment.
I didn't know I was ugly.
That kind of thing.
You know what?
I did cry, though.
You did cry?
I liked my teeth.
But when I saw these, I was like, ah!
It was like, I just felt like, I don't know what.
Nice teeth are such a luxury.
I think of rich kids in high school
who had, like, Invisalign and, like.
Yeah, I could never get braces.
Braces.
They're too expensive.
Yeah.
They are very expensive.
They're, like, $2,000.
Girl, Invisalign was $7,000.
What?
$7,000.
Does it, it works?
And my teeth were, my teeth are $2,600 a tooth.
And I got eight.
That's the thing.
Yeah.
That's, it's a lot. But I also eight. That's the thing. Yeah. That's.
It's a lot.
But I also did Invisalign first to straighten the bottom row.
So it was like that.
Oh, okay.
It is.
This is my Prius.
Yeah.
My teeth are my car.
But this will last.
They'll last.
Eight or ten weeks.
Yeah.
As long as you stay.
And when I did with the bar fighting I do.
I did Jimmy.
I had the temporaries on. And then I did Jimmy Kimmel that night.
What do you mean the temporaries?
Because they make your teeth like overnight, the ceramic real teeth.
So you have the little shaved down?
No, they put a temporary cap on them.
The conehead nubs, or no.
So like overnight, while someone overnight makes them, they put a temporary cap on your teeth so that they look normal.
But you can't really chew hard food or anything. And I'm getting i guess when i get in drag i grind my teeth and i didn't know
that so i'm putting makeup on getting ready for jimmy kimmel and i hear a snap and my front two
teeth just crumble off yes i called the dentist's office and i go i have to go to jimmy kimmel in
an hour and i don't have front teeth and they were like okay i don't think i've heard this before i
can't believe i haven't just the before. Just the bottom snapped off.
So, I mean, it wasn't so noticeable.
Like, it might have, okay, I'm fine.
But by the way, I'm so country.
I'm like, the front two teeth are missing.
It wasn't bad.
It was fine.
It was cool.
It wasn't noticeable.
I look like a hot girl from Florida.
From Panama City Beach.
And so then they come to,
my dentist assistant and the other assistant
come to my house and I'm in drag in my makeup room and they're gluing the teeth back on.
Oh my God.
Damn.
It's acrylics.
It's press ons.
Entirely.
That was my plan B.
Well, I just saw my dad for the first time in a long time and his teeth, I swear to God, are like short or then they like have shrunk.
I'm like, you're chewing on rocks
or something
what is happening
maybe he's filing them down
at night
I love
he's like
Macy it's nice to see you
you're like
what is up with your teeth
what is wrong with you
teeth are tough
get veneers
before you try to
talk to me
dad
yeah
I'm fully pumped right now
you couldn't get up to veneer
yeah
I think
my teeth are gonna fall out
one day all at once I think it's just gonna be like great great great great you don't up to veneer i think my teeth are gonna fall out one day all at
once i think it's just gonna be like great great great great no girl no get you into this yeah
lifelong smoker like chemical drug user i mean just sugar addict i mean my teeth are not perfect
but i've never had a cavity i mean either yeah mary it's crazy meth smoking everything literally
yeah everything no water yeah this is the first water i've had all month yeah it's crazy meth smoking everything literally everything no water
this is the first water
I've had all month
yeah
it's crazy
and then
no like
I haven't
I went to
seven years
without going to the dentist once
and then
I went
I was like
it's gonna be the wrecking ball
they're gonna say
okay
we'll make an appointment
for the wrecking ball
to smash your face
and just
nothing
no cavities
my mom got gingivitis
and like had
to get the whole
thing. Plaster or whatever to eat.
Like the shit one. Plaster.
Plaster. Drywall.
She had to make them herself.
It was plaster again.
I walked in the kitchen and she had
ripped up newspaper and glue.
Yeah, they just
skittles and then paper mache. She had a bag of white M&M's and I. Yeah, they just went to Skittles and then threw it in the paper mache.
She had a bag of white M&Ms and I was like,
what are you doing?
But the veneers are tough too though
because sometimes they're so blindingly white
and so perfect that it's like...
Well, they told me some rules.
They said you're not supposed to go
too much whiter than the whites of your eyes.
So I should do like a red?
Yeah, a gray round. like a red? Yeah.
A gray round.
A gray red.
Yeah.
Damn. Yeah.
Well, I told them I said I wanted Wisconsin white, so LA gray.
Because I brought in pictures of drag race queens and said, this is what I don't want.
Yeah.
This is also what I don't want.
Oh my God.
Because the labels are jacked.
They're blue.
Blue white tiles.
Yeah.
Just perfectly in a row.
It's great.
And also being bald and a little old-looking,
I've seen old, Caucasian, rich gay men
who have two youthful of teeth.
Yeah.
And it's Five Nights at Freddy's.
It's too much.
I love it.
It's so good.
When people have like...
I think Taylor Swift got teeth around 1989 era,
and they were just,
they looked like those,
like the like good toy teeth that like chomp up and down.
She should have wrote.
You need to calm down before you get into this.
To our dentist.
Yes.
You need to calm down.
It's nice because you see them having to like,
um,
close their mouth.
You know what I mean?
Like they have to like,
yeah,
they have to learn how to talk.
Yeah.
Yeah.
New challenges.
I think Fifi O'Hara, when we did All Stars 2,
she had gotten her teeth maybe days before she left,
and she was still kind of trying to settle into them,
couldn't close her mouth right.
Although I got eight of them, and the dentist told me,
she was like, when you get your teeth done
and it changes your speech considerably
it's because
they're not good veneers that's what she said
she said that it shouldn't change your
she said they shouldn't take up that much more space in your mouth
they should be really like the same
pretty much yeah but maybe that's just her
being uppity yeah yeah maybe
yeah saw that your friend can't talk
cheap you know I don't know
your ugly poor friend yeah I saw that your friend can't talk. Cheap. You know, I don't know. Your ugly, poor friend.
Yeah.
I saw that they wanted to look like a rich person.
If it was up to Caitlyn, everyone would have veneers.
Yeah, that's true.
In a helicopter.
Yeah, that's her, like, foray into socialized medicine.
Yes.
Yeah, we'll get your teeth.
Veneers and tits, yeah.
Instead of, like, what is it, Smile Club?
The smile train where they're, like, fixing hair lips. She's in, like, the Serengeti giving people veneers and tits. Instead of like smile, what is it? Smile club, the smile train
where they're like
fixing hair lips.
She's in like
the Serengeti
giving people veneers.
No,
no,
no drinkable water.
She's flying in dentists
and giving people veneers.
Yeah,
and like microdermabrasion.
Lashes.
Lashes.
Latisse.
Latisse.
Oh my God.
All right.
Well,
I think we should
probably wrap it up
we are
we are so fortunate
to have you
oh my god
thank you so much
for coming
I'm such a fan
would you ever come back
I had a blast
I don't know
that's like when you
have a hook up
and you go
we should do this again
and whether or not
the person wants to
they have to go
yeah
sure
yeah
let me get your number
I'll find it somewhere
i would love to do this again and then she pointed out to me like that doesn't mean anything because
of course they're gonna say yes in front of you yeah you nobody's ever going to be like
like forcefully confrontational to your face like, actually, this was not that great for me. That was, would you ever- Funny you should ask.
Yeah, yeah.
Would you do this again?
Absolutely not.
Yeah, like, no fucking way,
you fucking cheap tooth monster.
Someone lied to her several times.
This was so fun.
Yeah, where- This was so fun.
Where to tell the children where they find you online.
Oh yeah, at Macy Rodman on Twitter and Instagram,
and my next single is called Rock and Roll Gay Guy,
and it's coming out on August 5th
on Accidental Popstar Records.
Yes!
And go stream Love Me, it's a great song.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yes, yeah.
You give body, oddy, oddy, leg, leg, leg.
It is so great in the videos, yeah. Awesome, thank you so much. Thank you! Yeah, and good luck oddy, leg, leg, leg, it is so great in the videos.
Awesome.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
And good luck with the governor's race.
Thanks.
Thanks, girl.
Bye.
Vote, vote.
Rock the vote. Bye.