The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - A Sizzling Summer Reading List with Sarah Schauer and Katya

Episode Date: June 18, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:11 Welcome back to The Bald and the Beautiful. Today, we actually have a guest that makes our title make sense. Beautiful, bald, it's Sarah Schauer. Thank you so much. Hi, guys. I'm Sarah Schauer, and I'm not bald. Not bald at all. And your social security number was? All right. Uh, pen 667-549-311. Perfect. So enter that at the checkout and you'll get,
Starting point is 00:01:34 you'll get a free case of what? Uh, probiotic poop water. Yes. That's what my social security is worse. We won't get SSI in our old age, but we will get cases and cases of colon broom soda. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you ever had a colonic? No, but I want to. You do? I've heard. Is that that thing where they put the tube up your butt and then you poop on the table?
Starting point is 00:01:59 I don't think you poop on the table. I think it's like hooked up to like a shop vac. Oh, yeah, yeah. And it's just like, you know, vacuum sucks the poop out of your butt. What do you mean? If it's on the table, then what? Well, no, you lay down and it's like a silver table. And then there's like a dent in the middle where you can like,
Starting point is 00:02:24 you put the tube and then it just like a dent in the middle where you can like it you put the tube and then it just goes flows into the dent ergonomic steel poop table yeah it's like how you're supposed to give birth standing up you're supposed to shit laying down give birth standing up in 2024 yeah we're giving birth standing up and we're pooping laying down yes yeah and then we're hooping laying down yes yeah and then we're and then we're having sex above above okay so wait so i was like we were chatting earlier about like you know astor what do you want to talk about and you're like i've read 375 books this year so, I've read 37 since the first of this year, I was trying to become self-actualized. Oh, big. That's a really important thing. It's a huge ask. So where on the, on the pyramid of self-actualization are you currently? I don't know. I think I have like my shelter,
Starting point is 00:03:19 safety, intimate connections. I'm probably near in the top, but I know like that thing of when you get self-actualized, you say it like you actually bumped yourself down. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like he's like, I'm enlightened.
Starting point is 00:03:31 And then all of a sudden you become like a piece of shit murderer under death row. Yeah. So you have to, you have to harm. It's like a, that's it. It's like, I'm,
Starting point is 00:03:40 and then fierce. So what's your favorite book so far? Um, what my bones know by Stephanie Fu. It's about complex PTSD. Okay. So light reading. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:51 What I love. What My Bones Know. Yeah. What do your bones, I don't, sorry. Okay. What is the lightest favorite? Any beach reads? Any beach reads.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Like Danielle Steele, Dean Kuntz, Nora Roberts, lightest fair any beach reads any beach reads like danielle steel dean coons um nora roberts any barn burner romances bodice rippers no they're mainly non-fiction i would say the lightest thing that i've read is probably the newest hunger games okay but that's because everyone was like you got to read it and i did and they were like dude you did it did you love it i did yeah yeah i got into like the lore and i you know when you post a video on tiktok about and then i activated a community i didn't realize was so passionate yes there's a lot of passionate communities waiting to be activated on tiktok which is why i try to stay as far away from TikTok as possible. Yeah. Because like one day I'll just be like, here's like a million, you know, photos of men's butts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:53 And then it's like, here's like a million photos of like, you know, 83 year old Vietnamese woman restoring like giant barn doors in the 17th century. It's so specific. It's so insane. I have been reading Dune, which is the equivalent of 37 books. Yeah, yeah. It actually kind of is. You said 3,000 pages. That was a generous estimate, but it was a lot of words.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Yeah. Can I tell you something? Yes. That first book is so fucking riveting really i cannot fucking stand it oh is it good oh it's not good oh it's bad no no it's amazing okay like i think the listeners are probably at this point have taken off their you know taken out their earbuds or just like crashed into a tree at the mention of Dune. But like, you got to read that shit. Dune?
Starting point is 00:05:46 Dune. I'll listen to it on audiobook. No. I can't do that. Well, I try. So I was like halfway through the series and I was going on a long flight and I was like, oh, I'll get the audiobook. Whoever read that, flop.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Yeah. Was it a man? It was a man. Oh, that'll do it. Sigourney Weaver should read every audio book. That would be so nice. You know what I mean? Like it was like, he was doing voices.
Starting point is 00:06:11 He's like, and Bob said, what are you doing? I was like, come on. We're not doing like the little like story time, the little kid stuff. Yeah. I want like an older woman who smokes and she's got like that mealy thing on the side of her lip. Or yeah, the white things too. Kathleen Turner. Yeah. Body yeah body heat no that would be nice with a dune book do yeah I'd be like or I would be like um Paul a tree I mean I can't even do her voice but yeah a thick
Starting point is 00:06:35 coat of like 30 years of alcoholism yeah and like uh two and a half packs a day that's like gives the nice um that texture. Yeah. You know, like how you can film like movies and then you see people stand up like in the bootleg movie. Oh,
Starting point is 00:06:52 yeah, yeah. If you have your camcorder in the theater. Yeah. I love a bootleg audio book where you can hear like the family arguing
Starting point is 00:06:58 in the back. Oh, totally. There's domestic violence happening in the back. There's somebody's like frying eggs. And then somebody's like,
Starting point is 00:07:04 mom, where's my, that's cunty actually frying eggs. And then somebody's like, mom, where's my right? That's cunty actually. Yeah. Well, it's like that, um, that YouTube, you know, that Trixie and I talk about all the time, the lo-fi beats that gets, you know, music to study to, or like, you know, uh, music to study to filmed during the moon landing in 72 and like a tenement building in New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:07:22 It's like, that's so crazy. Oh, I love that. I love like ASMR, like gynecologist visit. Okay, wait, wait, wait. What? The ASMR community gets so specific. Oh, I know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:33 And, but the thing is, is I was doing this video with an ASMRtist and we were reviewing if it was good ASMR and that gynecology exam was pretty thorough and actually incredibly relaxing. So I was like, this is really good. So you're getting, you get to save on medical insurance. Yes. You can skip the gyno visit and you can relax. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Wow. I hope that like, damn, Blue Cross better not know about this channel. So what is it like? Are they whispering or? Yeah, yeah. They're like, everything seems to be in order down here.
Starting point is 00:08:08 There are some polyps. We've located a cyst, but it's okay. We went and removed it. There's going to be no extra charge on that. I trimmed down the hair and I pinned it off to the side. I hope a landing strip is okay because it seems like that's the fashion nowadays.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Now you can actually shit on this table too. But if you want to have sex we need to suspend you but don't worry so i actually i i did this i did a series of asmr videos like we filmed them a while ago and haven't released them um i think maybe because they're bad but we'll see um but i i wish well i guess i was gonna say i wish asmr was around when i was younger but youtube wasn't around when i was younger so i guess you know but do you have that tingle response do you get that like asmr tingle yeah it's like uh bubbles going up my spine oh it's it's it's it's the best thing ever yeah it's like um there's this dude called jojo asmr he's got a channel of like four million subscribers he's like a young uh he's like he looks like a child he's probably in his 20s this australian and he has some of his videos it it gets to the
Starting point is 00:09:20 tingles get to the point of like actual confusion. Cause I'm like, this is so sensational that it, but it's not erotic. It's not sexual, but it like, it really like bumps against that realm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:33 And, and then he gets like, he's got some gear that is very impressive, like $20,000 microphones or whatever. And like all these like effects. So it's like, I get to the point where my tongue's hanging out of my mouth my eyes are rolling back in my head and i'm like this is
Starting point is 00:09:53 i'm so jealous of like the kids these days that have all of the whole fucking library of asmr videos at their disposal you i mean you have also the internet at your disposal. I do? Yeah. Is that on the computer? No, I know, but I mean like it's, I don't know. I feel like it's one of the rare sort of like neighborhoods
Starting point is 00:10:11 on YouTube that is more or less pure. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because you can't violate the rules of the agreement. Like you can't have the guy know visit and be like,
Starting point is 00:10:21 so now get on the table and then start screaming because people will never come back to your channel. Yeah. You know what I mean? So there's like a, there's like a, visit be like, so now get on the table and then start screaming because people will never come back to your channel. Yeah. You know what I mean? So there's like a, there's like a, a really like upstanding code of ethics or conduct for that kind of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:34 That hashtag. Now that I'm thinking about it, I would love a gyno visit, but it's like HIPAA violation. She's like, I really shouldn't say this. But Julia Roberts just came in and her pussy is so fucking fat. Yes. The fattest pussy. And I loved her in Notting Hill, but I can't watch that movie anymore. I can't look her in the eyes.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I know. I can't believe that Richard Gere didn't make a comment about it on Pretty Woman. Because when he went down on her, he should have said, oh my God, your pussy's so fat. That would be, oh my God, ASO. that would be oh my god as no lo-fi beats at the gyno with a hip violation um right after the korean war that would be that would be that would be cunty okay so what other give me another um on your syllabus of books this semester what else have you been reading um i read hijab butch blues which is like stone butch blues but the author is muslim and so they were talking about that's it muslim jesus i'm just kidding go ahead yeah i actually believe
Starting point is 00:11:32 the muslim jesus is jesus sorry that was that's actually a very accurate joke let's take a break now i swear because it's an abrahamic religion but it was really good now, you know, I thought this was going to be light and breezy. Now you're coming in with all these degrees, all this knowledge. What do you think? This is some kind of Harvard. Business school. This is Harvard business school. Wait.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Okay. So hijab. Butch blues. Butch blues. Which is. It's like stone butch blues. Which is stone butch blues. Well, if you're like a lesbian, it's like essential butch blues but which is stone butch blues what uh well if you're like a lesbian
Starting point is 00:12:06 it's like um essential reading you know to like learn about like butchness okay so it's like is it like um the is it like the velvet rage for no what's that i don't know it's like that's like a hey so you're gay here's why know it's like that's like a hey so you're gay here's why sorry it's one of those books it's one of those books that like if you're gay you should probably read it oh yeah you should definitely read it man sorry gay man uh yeah i mean i always recommend that gay men read lesbian books because sometimes i feel like no one really thinks about lesbians uh no shit yeah I think um in the in the in the alphabet soup pecking order um it's funny that the l comes first uh-huh but I think if a lot of these f words had their um
Starting point is 00:12:59 had their say the l would not be it would be like g, F, G, F, gay, fag, gay, fag, lesbian. They would erase the B because they're like, that doesn't exist. Oh. And then, I mean, it's true though. I think, don't you think that is like a, like a persistent kind of myth that bisexual people are like not there? I think they're there. I think there's,
Starting point is 00:13:27 I wouldn't say that they should, I think that they're great in that. Well, I do too, but people still don't believe it. Yeah, well, I mean, that's their own problem. Like, I mean, it's, what is it?
Starting point is 00:13:38 Like monosexism, where like people assume that you can only be attracted to one gender. That's why they believe like gay and lesbian over bisexuality because they can't wrap their mind around being attracted to like multiple genders. True. I mean, up until two years ago, I couldn't wrap my head around hot dog nachos. Can't wrap my mouth around it.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Thank you. Hello. What if we took a caller? It's Rachel Ray. She's like, I've got a 30 minute recipe for hot dog nachos. What does possible sound like for your business? It's having to spend to power your scale with no preset spending limit. Redefine possible with Business Platinum. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms and conditions apply. Visit amex.ca slash business platinum. Okay, so back to your syllabus.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Uh-huh. What other insanely dense academic works have you been chewing on? Insanely dense? Not, well, I read Cast by Isabel Wilkerson. Okay, what's that about? The cast system in America. Oh, I thought it was cast. It was like mama cast biography.
Starting point is 00:14:45 No, no, no, no. Okay. The cast system in America. Oh, I thought it was caste. It was like mama caste biography. No, no, no. Okay. The caste system in America. Yeah. It very much how like India has a caste system and America has a caste system. But yeah. And so that was really eye opening and great. Would you say there's mobility in the American caste system versus the Indian one?
Starting point is 00:15:02 It really depends. versus the Indian one? It really depends. If like economically there is mobility, but when it comes to like, you know, different like levels or like different types of like ways that you can be marginalized, not so much. But with the, I didn't, I don't remember. I read it so long ago.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Now I'm like, I'm misquoting like an incredibly important work. It's okay. If you get anything wrong, people will just, they'll let'll let us know. And then we can just push you off the balcony next week. It's immediate. Like we post this as soon as I vote in the comments of Sarah's should, should just offer herself. Oh my God. Wait. So the, who would you think the upper, are there like titles to the cast? The Untouchables is at the bottom, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And then who would be at the top? The Illuminati? No, there actually is names to the cast systems in India, but I don't remember them. What about in America? Well, I mean, it's like the elite, like the 1% would be like. The Illuminati. Yeah. Is that real? I mean, it's like the elites, like the 1% would be like, yeah. Is that real?
Starting point is 00:16:06 I mean, sure. Okay. I mean, is the baby blood pizza shop under Hillary Clinton's, is that real? No, no, no. Okay. So we got at the top of the American cast system, we have the elite. Yeah. The A-listers.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Yes. the American cast system we have the elite yeah the a-listers the ultra but now that I feel like that's there's like there's there's shifting going on because you have Mr. Beast who I learned about maybe a year ago uh-huh who's worth about 400 billion dollars yeah he has so much money it's insane he's the number one youtuber yes I believe yeah and his videos, I was like so like blown away. He's like, on today's video, we're going to give away 47 Lamborghinis, but we're going to, we're going to drop them from a helicopter. Yeah. And the first person to catch it with their bare hands wins.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Like, I mean, it's like, what the fuck? It's insane. But so I would argue that he and Julia Roberts in a cage match. Side by side, yeah. I don't think Julia would come out on top in a cage match. Side by side, yeah. I don't think Julia would come out on top in terms of her like status. No, no. In terms of economic weight class, I actually think Mr. Beast may be above Julia Roberts. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Let's, okay, quickly. So American cast cage match. We'll start with, we'll start with Charlize Th's theron uh-huh julia roberts okay and they are representing the elite so who is winning in the cage match charlie's theron and who was the other one julia roberts uh charlie's theron because she played monster and i think that she could get back into that pretty easily and also fury road yeah yeah she could drive a car right over julia's giant teeth. Yeah. What has Julia done? Pretty woman. I know I'm saying
Starting point is 00:17:48 like in terms of dangerous characters in a movie. Oh, that's a good one. You were about to hit me. I mean, I think the most dangerous she gets is mystic pizza and she could just, you know, she'll make your pizza, like she'll serve it too hot and then you'll burn your mouth or something. Yeah, yeah. Pretty woman? Pretty Woman.
Starting point is 00:18:05 She could, I mean. Tap in Richard Gere? She's pretty benign though. I mean, she takes a bubble bath and she helps you drive your Lotus. Yeah. Like it's a very, it's not a very like, I think the,
Starting point is 00:18:15 what is the most evil Julia Roberts character? I don't think she does evil very well. Was she in any animated movies? Okay, so let's say charlize okay so charlize versus sigourney weaver uh sigourney weaver because her name is just so like i don't know i don't know anyone else named sigourney me neither sigourney weaver versus beyonce uh oh probably beyonce because she's a bit younger okay Beyonce versus Taylor Swift and Anya Taylor-Joy Beyonce okay Beyonce versus the um entire country continent of Europe well I think they would all just submit. Yeah, that's fair enough. And also, why are they in the American caste system?
Starting point is 00:19:07 Listen, it doesn't have to make sense. That's a fair point, actually. Wait, so getting back to books. Yeah. When I started the Dune book, the first one, I think it was probably the first book I read cover to cover in like less than a week. And at 42 years old, that's kind of not very impressive and a little bit embarrassing,
Starting point is 00:19:30 but you got to get into that shit. Yeah, you do. I don't think that's not impressive. I think there's, there's a large illiterate population and you've vested them. Yeah. You hear that?
Starting point is 00:19:40 You fucking illiterate fucks. I can read and you can't. So no, it's, it's fucking riveting. And, of course, I'm obsessed with the movies, but, like, oh, man, that book gets my pussy in a knot so much. It is. I can't. I don't really do.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Like, I don't seek out sci-fi as, like, my primary genre of interest, but this fucking book is so thick and good and juicy. You've got to get into it. I've never read it or seen the movies, but I trust you. You've never seen the movies? No, no. It's the one where they're driving those cars that are like. Yes, it's super fast.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Yeah. And they turn into like other stuff like. Like Transformers. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. It's Transformers. In the desert. In the desert. Is Dune. No, it's not Transformers. In the desert.
Starting point is 00:20:25 In the desert. Is Dune. No, it's not Transformers. Oh. It's the worms, giant worms, Timothy Chalamet. Oh. Does he have worms? Well, do you know the rumor about him?
Starting point is 00:20:40 No. That he spread a venereal disease through NYU. I have heard that. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's just a rumor. Timothy Chalamet, we love your work and we would never insinuate that you, you know, send a rip roaring case of VD through your undergrad college.
Starting point is 00:20:55 But that's kind of cunty though. Yeah, yeah. Leave your mark on a place. Exactly. Legacy work. Yeah, yeah. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:02 What other books? Oh God. What would you recommend to me? Just pretend that I'm the stupidest person in the world and I'm looking to get into reading after a long hiatus, even after having written a couple of books. You've written books? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:20 I think there's one right around here. Oh, yeah. I read your book. The Joy of Anal Sex and then What to Expect I read your book. The joy of anal sex. Yeah. What to expect when you're expecting. Yeah. Anal sex. I, I still can't get over the steel table with the,
Starting point is 00:21:33 the poop. Yeah. It's just, I mean, what else would you recommend? Like, uh, cause you got to catch it in a,
Starting point is 00:21:41 you know, bowl. You got to catch it in a bowl. Yeah. I mean, um, okay. No yeah i mean um okay no back to the books back to the books i don't have a book for um the stupidest person ever i was gonna recommend undoing drugs undoing drugs yeah what does that what does that mean about harm reduction tell me tell me tell me okay so it's a book on harm reduction and like um the clean needle movement
Starting point is 00:22:05 you know so harm reduction for the people don't know is like so if like if total abstinence is like not yeah in the in the picture it's what it's like how do i do the least amount of damage yeah like um so like you need like clean needles um in the 80s there was like the aids epidemic obviously and like um with intravenous yeah yeah so um and so like people who use we're reusing dirty needles and they were like you're already shooting up drugs you should probably like look like you don't want also aids on top of that so they started bleaching needles and then they were like that does work but you know what works better is like a clean needle program. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:49 And so harm reduction is like, well, then aren't you encouraging people to use drugs? It's like, no, you're just providing like a safer method because these are people who use drugs, but they also deserve to live and be, you know, healthy. What a novel, compassionate approach I think is, I don't think that's the official American policy. But no, I mean, what was it? I think Portugal decriminalized drugs like years and years ago. I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. And then, and I also, there's like a, I think it's in Vancouver,
Starting point is 00:23:19 but there's like overwhelming evidence over the last, I don't know, since the 80s, since Nancy fucking Reagan. It was like, just don't, you know, just don't do it. You know, that was the real wisdom and the war on drugs, spectacular Reagan. Yeah. It was like, just don't, you know, just don't do it. Yeah. You know, that was the real wisdom and the war on drugs, spectacular failure. Yeah. But like, I've always thought it's like,
Starting point is 00:23:32 just make everything, make everything legal. Yeah. Like doing drugs is a health issue. Yes. Public health issue. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Not a law enforcement issue. No, it's not. It's crazy. Yeah. The a law enforcement issue. No, it's not. It's crazy. Yeah. The war on drugs has done horrible damage to like literally every community. And people are always like, that's not an issue that I'm going to deal with. But like most people don't realize that people get into drugs because of like medical issues. You know?
Starting point is 00:23:58 No fucking shit. Dude, I had to turn off the, I started watching Painkiller, that documentary on, or not the documentary, the show on Netflix about the fucking Sackler family. Yeah. The makers of Oxycontin. Oh, yeah. I had to turn that shit off. Oh, my God. Do you want to know something heartbreaking?
Starting point is 00:24:12 I wish I knew her name, but there was this lady in Undoing Drugs. Her son, Odid, he died. And, like, she didn't know about Narcan, but she also didn't know that her husband invented Narcan. What? He did not tell her because he said it never came up and her son OD'd, the man that she was married to. Are you serious? I'm dead serious.
Starting point is 00:24:34 That is actually one of- That is the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life. No, I know. That's the craziest thing I've read in a book this year is like he just, it never came up and like knowing that her son was an active drug user that is like i'm trying to think of a i'm trying to think of an analogy and i literally can't it's like um i've been i've been running track barefoot this whole time and i'm married to bob nike yeah
Starting point is 00:25:00 yeah and i'm like coming home with i'm after practice got blisters corns of bleeding feet what can i do about this bob you know it was a great day at the track but jesus christ you know i just these fucking feet i don't know if i'm gonna make it to the olympics he's like oh that's tough yeah what the fuck no i know and so like um apparently they they split up not after not because of that but like she was like in her like when she was like in her, like when she was talking about it, she was like, it's just, you know, it was an accident. He never like thought to,
Starting point is 00:25:27 and I was like, he actually hates you. Like, there's no way that that's not like malicious. Damn. Yeah. That is, that's like,
Starting point is 00:25:35 that's not just like, Oh, it slipped my mind. It's like, we had a major disagreement over Julia Roberts's movies. Yes. And then I, I, I fought that resentment festered until our son died.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Yes. Damn. It's awful. Fucking hell. The, I was like, what was it? It was a thing about the oxys, because the opiates like ravaged, you know, like West Virginia area. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And there was, I remember reading about this woman who, she had like a back surgery or something. And there was, I remember reading about this woman who, she had like a back surgery or something. And she would get, she would continue to get these prescriptions from her doctor and would sell the pills to like, you know, kids in the neighborhood for like $80 a pill. Oh, wow. And then became like, over the years just became like a fucking, like a housewife drug kingpin. Oh my gosh. Crazy. Yeah. Well, that happens yeah it's crazy how like most people who like get on drugs like you just you probably got like your wisdom teeth removed or like something like that and then
Starting point is 00:26:37 your prescription stopped and you're like now you're hooked on it i i never went i mean not that i have any experience with drugs but hypothetically speaking I would I am so glad that I never got on that opioid train yeah because a friend of mine was like explaining to me that sometimes in withdrawal a paper cut feels like you're getting you're committing like seppuku like you're getting disemboweled. The pain receptors are so fucking blown out. My level of, my tolerance for pain is so low and I'm such a wimp that I would, I mean, the first day with Rod, probably just jump off a bridge to the 405.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Yeah, a lot of people, well, actually, I'm sorry. Yeah, they do. Sorry, sorry. So keeping things light is that I just, I can't. I was talking to my mom before I came here, like about sedation dentistry. Okay. Is that where you put down a dentist? Once and for all?
Starting point is 00:27:39 That would be so fierce. Sedation dentistry is a new service that allows you to euthanize your dentist. Oh, my God. No, because like over the years, like I've – I don't know what it is. Like I don't know what I've done to these dental hygienists. Like what kind of vendetta they have against me. But clearly there's something because the way that they approach my mouth with those tools is like, it's like, it's archaeological.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Yeah. It's like, it's like those, those activities that a therapist would recommend for like stress, like axe throwing. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, it's, they, they Indiana Jones my mouth to a level that is so abusive, so painful. And so I feel unnecessary that I need to be put under going to the dentist. What I noticed about the dentist is like the people who like clean your teeth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:36 The hygienist. So mean about it. And then the dentist walks in and he's like, you mama, you look great. Mama. He strolls. He, after he finishes his third, my tie down the, like down the street at a restaurant comes and he's like, mama you look great mama he strolls after he finishes his third mai tai down the like down the street at a restaurant comes and he's like still got a mouth okay great yeah and then he goes like that'll be four thousand dollars it's so fucked up yeah but that's like
Starting point is 00:28:55 the the relationship between like nurses and doctors and then hygienists and dentists it's like they they get all the grunt maybe it's like they have to do all the shitty work so they just like take it out on your mouth yeah i just it's so crazy there's one the last time I went to have a cleaning which was like two years ago the woman while she was picking apart literally hacking my face apart she was telling me about her recent divorce and how she's been dating yeah with a flagrant disregard for what's going it was so was so crazy. I was like, so you're going to like mutilate my mouth, but then also give me every detail of like six or seven dates you've gone on in the last six months.
Starting point is 00:29:32 It was so absurd. Yeah. I was like, fuck. I had my wisdom teeth taken out and they didn't put me down. They just kind of like numb the area. And I could hear it cracking. And at one point the tool slipped into my mouth and he was like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:29:45 and he had to pull it out. Are you serious? And I was like, a similar thing happened. It was not like total. I forget what kind of anesthesia they call it, but you are not. No,
Starting point is 00:29:57 it's me. It wasn't local. It wasn't general. Cause I was, I was, I think it's what you had. I could feel that crunch yeah that pickle lady when you get that crunch oh yeah it's you could feel it and it was
Starting point is 00:30:12 so weird because it was a pressure but it wasn't pain yeah that is so fucked up it is crazy it's so fucked up yeah i had all four which is like um At the same time. Yeah. Did you love? No, because they didn't let me keep my teeth. You know, I think if a presidential candidate really wants to clinch the victory, they need to run on the following platform. Okay. Allow patients to bring home their biohazardous wastes. And I'm a single issue voter, so I would... Thank you.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Yeah, if I get in a motorcycle accident and the leg gets chopped. And I'm a single issue voter. So I would, yeah. Yeah. If I get in a motorcycle accident and the leg gets chopped off. Yeah. I'm going home with the leg. No. Yeah. If you refrigerate it or put it in formaldehyde, why can't you keep it?
Starting point is 00:30:54 These are questions for the, that really should be asked at the next debates. Like if I can bury my cat in the front yard, why can't I keep my amputated leg? Yeah. Yeah. If I, exactly. Thank you. Why can't I sleep with my amputated arm every night?
Starting point is 00:31:10 Have you ever seen a libertarian presidential debate? No. Okay, so this is exactly what it sounds like. They're like, human rights, you should be able to keep your leg after it's been amputated. If you got a helicopter, you should be able to drive it naked, scoot
Starting point is 00:31:25 your butt out the side, and then blow ass all the whole rest of the... I was like, yeah, they really... Libertarian, correct me if I'm wrong, is like anything goes. Yeah, like if you watch the debate, there's a guy in like a full wizard costume and then there's a guy with a boot on his head and then there's
Starting point is 00:31:41 one man in a suit. Yeah, the other is like cradling a giant um a fish tank yeah filled with dead fish yeah it's like fierce i mean i don't want to talk about politics but i just feel at this point we have the gray corpse mr biden we got the wacko trump. I feel like maybe a wild card libertarian of the kind that you're describing could really bring us out of this nightmare. Let's get Mr. Beast in the running.
Starting point is 00:32:12 No, but he's too... Yeah, he's powerful, rich, but it makes too much sense. I feel like we need the absurdity of the libertarian. Somebody whose primary platform talking points would be no more toilets. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Diapers for everybody. Yeah. And we need to harness the power of wind for evil. Yeah. If you like put the windmills in the opposite direction, it actually sucks out energy. There's too much. We have an energy surplus. We need to suck back the wind into the ground to poison the soil.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Yeah. Yeah. And get all these volcanoes going. Yes. My God. So we need someone like super evil. Yeah. But in a fun way.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Okay. Like, um, like Marianne Williamson's,arro version like the dark Marianne I'm trying to think of what she looks like so she's like a very attractive older woman with brown hair and she's like we gotta harness the power of love I'll vote for her if that's what she runs with
Starting point is 00:33:18 I mean she's she seems like a very nice lady I think a little woo woo for the more cynical pragmatic crowd, of course. But, you know, if you had to choose between getting dropped into a volcano or getting like, what is it? Thrown into a huge industrial wood chipper. Oh, God. Are you throwing me in head first or feet first, the volcano?
Starting point is 00:33:50 Dealer's choice. Okay, then wood chipper, I guess, is dealer's choice, too. And the wood chipper is enormous. It's like the size of this room. And it's like at full blast. A lot of juice powering that thing. Oh, God. I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:05 like when you're too scared to get in cold water, so you stick a hand in, I think I would stick my hand into the wood shepherd, let myself bleed out. And then I'd fall into it just so I don't have to experience the full crush. Cause I know that I would be alive for most of the boiling and I can't do that. That's cunty. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I just let it rip my hand off. Yeah. It's like, Oh, interesting. Come what may. Come on in. The water's lovely.
Starting point is 00:34:30 I acclimate to the wood chipper. You pull back the body set up. You're like, actually, this is cunty. Was that so bad? Would you, are you an avid swimmer?
Starting point is 00:34:41 Do you like swimming? No, no. I wear too much makeup. Oh shit. Yeah. I am. I quit the? No, no. I wear too much makeup. Oh, shit. Yeah. I quit the swim team in middle school because I started wearing makeup. And they were like, for butterfly, you got to put your head in the water.
Starting point is 00:34:53 And I was doing this like. Not with these lashes on. No, seriously. I was like, it'll mess up my makeup. So I can't. And they were like, well, you're not even doing butterfly at this point. You're literally just bobbing up and down. You're thinking ahead.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Also, isn't swim practice like four in the morning? Yeah, it was really early. That is fucking insane to me. Well, I can't do it midday because I got to take it out of school. Why not? I don't know. I mean, like you go back to social studies, literally just soaking wet. That's cunty.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Did y'all shower at the school? No, not really. We never showered in high school. No. I mean, we showered at home. Yeah, at home. But all these movies where people, like, you know, Carrie, all these movies where people are, like, showering in high school boggles my mind. I've never experienced that, thank God.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Yeah, I'm too high maintenance. I feel like I wouldn't be able to do my makeup fast enough, and I just, I'd go home. Yeah, that's probably the most stressful situation I could ever imagine getting naked in high school with all those fucking assholes. Yeah. What other books? Because We Are Bad. It's about OCD. I don't have OCD. I just wanted to read about what it's like. And it was really eye opening. Okay. Yeah. And what are some of the revelations? Well, I've talked to a lot of people with OCD now and a lot, a fair portion of them and the author of the book was like, I thought I was schizophrenic because like my compulsions
Starting point is 00:36:12 were like so strong that I thought like someone was talking to me. Fuck. Yeah. But, um, no, it's just, you're like, um, internal dialogue. Damn. Yeah. Like the Maria Bamber thing. I'm worried I'm going to, um, kill my parents, cut them up into chunks, then have sex with the chunks. Yeah. Yeah. Like the Maria Bamber thing. I'm worried I'm going to, um, kill my parents,
Starting point is 00:36:25 cut them up into chunks, then have sex with the chunks. Yeah. Yeah. Very real. Very real. Um, I, God, I'm trying to, what besides Dune, you've only, what else have you read? Okay. So Dune, Dune 2 or Dune Messiah. Yes. Then Children of Dune, of course. Children of Dune. And then God Emperor of Duneune which is where i currently am okay which is a 3500 year jump in the dunes dunesphere yeah where the a so this guy decides to get covered in what's called sand trout okay and then he turns into a large worm and then he he's a large worm dictator on the planet that Dune takes place on. And it's so fucking weird.
Starting point is 00:37:09 I got to admit, it's not exactly, it's a little bit of a slog getting through this part. But spoiler alert, he's fallen in love. With a worm? No, no, he's the worm. He's fallen in love with a lovely little woman who was sent to his planet to woo him. And so the god emperor worm is like catching feelings for this lovely lady. But he has no more genitals. I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:37:33 I was like, is this like a little mermaid situation where he goes to a witch and gets a penis? It's very that. But it's a big mermaid in the sand. It's like enormous mermaid in the sand. So like imagine Ariel but dry and like 6,000 times the size. But he's got a little face. His face is cute. And he's got like a little cowl neck thing going on.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Yeah. And I guess his limbs, his legs have kind of like kind of wasted away into little nubs. But he has a giant cart that he can do wheels or suspensors. Does she find him attractive um i think that she is she loves him oh i don't think that she finds him attractive it's because is this like a shape of water situation shape except dry okay yeah yeah it's like the shape of water with the water it's um yeah actually it kind of is it's it's very crazy it's um but i'm i'm trying to get through this part because i think in the next book there is a um a society or like a
Starting point is 00:38:33 a sect of women um who are like they're like how to describe they're kind of like space sex nuns oh who are like they use their sexuality to like destroy and enslave people. And I can't wait to get to those ladies. Where does the nunnery come in? Well, so there's a, in the previous books, it's called the Bene Gesserit, which are like the sisterhood of like space witches. Okay. And they can like, I'd be like, drink the Red Bull. And then you just, it would like force you to drink it.
Starting point is 00:39:05 So they can use like all these kinds of, exactly. See, it worked. Fall in love with the worm. And then there's another one. There's like an even evil version of, another sisterhood of like evil women who, I think that they try to kill all the, I don't know. It's just, it's just fucking awesome. Like I'm so horny for it. I'm horny for evil women using sex as a weapon. Oh yeah, I love that they try to kill all the I don't know it's just fucking awesome I'm so horny for it I'm horny for evil women using sex as a weapon
Starting point is 00:39:28 Oh yeah I love that You know? It's cunty It is I'm trying to think of a movie of horny women who use it for evil Pretty Woman Yes Julia Roberts I mean she will seduce you She'll teach you how to drive a manual transmission
Starting point is 00:39:43 Yeah And then she'll also advocate for safety with uh teach you how to drive a manual transmission yeah and then she'll also advocate for safety with all those condoms in her boot she will she what was evil about that um well you know that movie was supposed to be much darker was it it was it like the you know like the original like what are those movies that little kids watch cartoons no um from disney like oh uh the brothers grim yes like fairy tales oh yeah i would love like a brothers grim version of julia roberts movies oh hell yeah so we could be um like pretty woman except she kills richard gear by pushing him off the balcony steals his. It would be called ugly bitch. Yes. Ugly bitch. And yeah,
Starting point is 00:40:25 she would. It's weirdly in German. Definitely. Yeah. She's, um, it would just be a role reversal where she was the ruthless real estate developer who goes like, um,
Starting point is 00:40:36 cruises down Hollywood Boulevard looking for male gigolos to then kill them. I think that's monster actually. Fuck. Um, yeah, there's seriously, I, Julia Roberts to me, I think that's monster. Yeah. Actually, fuck. Yeah. Seriously. Julia Roberts, to me, I think about her every day.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Yeah. What was she in most recently? She was in some shitty movie on Netflix where there was some kind of post-apocalyptic event that I slept through. And then I woke up and she and another person were surrounded by a bunch of deer. Okay. We bought a zoo. Yeah, literally person were surrounded by a bunch of deer. Okay. We bought a zoo. Yeah, literally. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Just a bunch of deer. And then, I don't know, Mona Lisa smile. I don't know. Nothing tops Pretty Woman. No. They did three versions when they shot it. Yeah. So they did three takes allegedly or apparently every time they filmed.
Starting point is 00:41:25 They did a funny one or like a light one. Okay. They did a serious one and then they said a wild card. Okay. So the director would be like, okay, let's do it playful. Okay, let's do it dark. It's like, do whatever you want. Put a paper bag over your head.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Yeah. Isn't that crazy? So they had three different like options for the tone of the movie. I do love the idea of like cutting the clips together and there's like one random clip of like her with a paper bag over her head. Paper bag over her head, dish gloves, smoking three cigarettes. It's crazy. Oh God. Speaking of which, have you
Starting point is 00:41:53 had the pleasure of watching In Just Like That? No. Okay. Don't do it. Is it, uh, what is it? What is it? Like what's it about? That's a really good question. It's a really good question that I think we should probably just cruise past it's one of the most befuddling series ever to exist
Starting point is 00:42:12 on HBO starring Sarah Jessica Parker continuation of Sex and the City at her current age? yeah 3,000 years in the future she's she's an ancient crone trying to get to the bottom of what's the beating pulse of Manhattan sex life.
Starting point is 00:42:32 No. Oh, it's just crazy. It's so bad. Ay, ay, ay. What other books? What other books? Give me something. Give me something.
Starting point is 00:42:42 So we got OCD. Yes. Hijabs. Yes. We've got. Complex we got OCD. Yes. Hijabs. Yes. We've got complex PTSD. Complex PTSD. Anything on spina bifida, rickets? Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:42:52 I did do Unwell Women. What's that? It's about medical discrimination against women throughout history. However, it's very white feminism in that it's all about barbiturates and that it gets nothing on the war on drugs. Oh, damn. Well, barbiturates are wild. They are. Barbiturates and that it gets nothing on the war on drugs. Oh, damn. Well, barbiturates are wild. They are. Barbiturates are 60s, 70s?
Starting point is 00:43:09 Yes, yeah, yeah. Goofballs. I don't know anyone who's taken any. Well, because they don't exist anymore, as I think, because I think benzos replaced barbiturates because I think they found barbiturates to be so dangerous. Yeah. And back then, they were popping pills like candy
Starting point is 00:43:25 and drinking oh yeah yeah i think it's like take a few purple pills wash it down with a dry martini and then um you know go to sleep forever yeah crazy you don't realize that you're roofing yourself basically every day but literally yeah yeah yeah um i have um i'm trying to convince some like investors to get on the ground floor of this really ingenious idea I have about a thing called SkyMed. Okay. Which is a first class airline service in the airplane. Yes. Where you can basically get any drug you want.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Okay. So it's like, imagine a traveling nurse instead of a flight attendant. Yeah. So they're like, oh, you're in 3C right this way. Would you like any hot nuts or like... Koi lutes? Yeah, IV drip of Xanax for the 16-hour flight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:13 And so you, they like, it's like the fifth element. They like trank you to sleep an hour before you land. They give you a little pet pill, a little breakfast, hot towel. You're ready for your business meeting. Oh, I love that. Don't you think they could pill, a little breakfast, hot towel. You're ready for your business meeting. Oh, I love that. Don't you think they could make like a ton of money? Yeah, I think like airplanes like follow like the same laws as ships. Maritime law.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Yeah, but I think they go according to the country that they're from. However, at a certain altitude, I feel like you should be able to swap hills. Absolutely. Because it's like, who are we governed by? I know. If we're like, if we're 35,000 feet above Morocco. Absolutely. Cause it's like, who are we governed by? I know if we're, if we're like, if we're 35,000 feet above Morocco, does it really make a difference if we're 35,000 feet above Japan? Yeah. I mean, I just, I would love that. You know, sometimes you need a Xanax and you got to ask the person behind you. I know. And then it's the whole awkward thing if they refuse and
Starting point is 00:45:01 then there's 16 hours left on this flight and you got a resentment. Yeah. Um, I mean, 18 hour flights. Yeah. That's tough. I've never been on one. I've been on a 10 hour flight from London, but that's pretty much it. What did you do? I went to. How did you pass the time?
Starting point is 00:45:14 I read books. You read all, this is where you read the 36 books. Yeah. All at once. No. Uh, yeah. Cause I didn't have, I didn't want to pay for wifi. And so I was like, I guess I'll rough it.
Starting point is 00:45:25 And then I just opened a book for the first time. And I was like, this is something. There's something here, dude. Wait, do you guys know about books? Damn. I don't know. I really feel like it would be, I would go back, like harken back to the olden days where like in the 60s or like those Pan Am flights where people were like swing dancing, having steak Diane, smoking cigarettes. It was like a free for all. Like judo lessons in the back of the plane. It was like a whole
Starting point is 00:45:49 different scenario. I would love that. I think the reason why you can't move around as much cause like weight distribution, but if like the center of the plane was just for dancing, I feel like it'd be fine. Especially square dancing where it's like kind of, um, there's a, there's like a pattern. Yes. It's like, or what do you call it? The electric slide. Oh yeah, yeah. We're all moving in unison. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:11 It would have to get a little bit, the first, like the trials would be a little tough because you'd have to get everybody involved. And of course, there's always going to be the guy who's like, I don't want to dance. We're like, well, you have to. Yeah. Like a flash mob on a plane.
Starting point is 00:46:23 A drugged flash mob on a plane. A drugged flash mob on a plane. That would be amazing. That would be, yeah. I think that would probably solve a lot of the hardships that Boeing's going through right now. Yeah, you wouldn't need those cops on planes anymore. People are dancing. God.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Let's see what else. So how long do you want to live until? Oh, God. I think if it wrapped up right now, I'd be fine. Okay. So I'm kind of just like, um, whenever it happens. It's all gravy from here on out. Yeah. I don't really have any like other thing that I'm trying to accomplish. I mean, I'm like, I love doing standup. I love reading. I love Legos. Uh, I've got like some medication. I'm
Starting point is 00:47:02 sober. Like, I mean, I'm doing great. And I don't think I'm going to die naturally. You know what I mean? No. Okay. You think it's a hideous car crash or? Oh yeah. I, um, I always, whenever I see those like news clips of someone finding like a, like a suitcase along the side of the road, I'm like, I feel like that's going to be me soon. Wait, wait, but what is it? What's in the suitcase? People. You know, like when you like, there's always a runner in the morning. He's like, I was just trying to get in my like 25 and then I smelled this thing and I was like, that's, I don't know why, but I feel like that's.
Starting point is 00:47:37 A suitcase full of a person. Yeah. Like chopped up. Crushed in half. Damn. I mean, fuck. So how old are you now i'm 29 29 yeah i think it's a little early for the suitcase on the side of the road treatment well it's not my choice that's true that's up with the killer.
Starting point is 00:48:07 No. Oh, God. Okay. Well, your homework after you finish your 40th book is go online and just look up. There's super cuts everywhere. She is, I think, you know, and I don't want to poke fun at mental illness, of course, because I think that there's probably some mental illness at play here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:25 But she incessantly refers to the killer as an existential threat that is always looming. Okay. She's talking about infinity scarves. Okay. These are great because the killer can't grab a hold of them and strangle you. Oh, interesting. The killer. Yeah. The clear and present danger of the always lurking killer. Yeah. That kind of reminds me of, I read this book called the collected schizophrenia and there's this delusion that you can have where like you feel like your loved ones have
Starting point is 00:49:00 been replaced with doubles. Love it. The killer. Yeah. Sorry. I feel like that's a delusion I'm going to read about actually. Oh, I love that. It's like sleeping with the enemy, Julia Roberts. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it is. Damn. The killer.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Did she sponsor this? I bet Wendy Williams probably watched sleeping with the enemy and that ignited in her a hard, like a kernel or a seed of delusion that just sprouted in his, um, is as she has not been able to shake. It's fierce. You should watch sleeping with the enemy. I will watch sleeping with the enemy. She fakes her own death.
Starting point is 00:49:37 She jumps off a boat, fix her own death and then starts a life somewhere else. God. But guess who finds her? The killer. Oh yeah. This is like. Oh. Oh, yeah. That's just like Wendy Williams. Wendy Williams.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Latoya Jackson. Okay. All right. So any advice for people who are super hot and sexy and want to draw on freckles? Just kind of dot it around. Okay. You know.
Starting point is 00:50:01 And what do you use to do that? Freck. Oh. Yeah. Freck. It's called freck. Just kind of. Oh, no way. to do that? Freck. Oh. Yeah. Freck. It's called Freck. Just kind of. Oh, no way.
Starting point is 00:50:07 It's like literally made for that purpose? Yeah. Just like dotted on your face. But I do it underneath like powders and stuff. Okay. So it doesn't look like shit unless you're like it does. Oh, like you've been like you were like just sitting by the side of that steel table and just got some blowback. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:23 From the coolness. Well, thank you for coming on. But I and I failed to mention at the top of the steel table and just got some blowback. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Um, well, thank you for coming on. But I, and I failed to mention at the top of the show, you're gorgeous. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:50:32 29 looking fine. I know. And I smoke fierce. Keep smoking. Keep smoking kids. Do it. I honestly feel like. No.
Starting point is 00:50:41 I mean, I know, I know a lot of people care. I know a lot of people care. Yeah. But like, who cares? I think, um, yeah, I mean, I know a lot of people care. I know a lot of people care. Yeah. But like, who cares? I think, yeah, I mean, smoking, I feel like smoking cigarettes is probably the better choice than vaping
Starting point is 00:50:53 because vaping you could do inside. Smoking cigarettes, you got to go outside. That is a very good point. We're not endorsing either of these activities, of course, but it's a very, very, very good point. Yeah. Vaping in the bed, I got two rules in the bedroom. No TV, no vape.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Okay. I thought you said, I thought you were saying no teeth. You want to get my bed with a full set of chompers? Get the fuck out of here. No, no vape, no phone, no TV. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Sleep hygiene. Get into it. Everyone's or someone who's visiting? No, my house and every house on the block. I go door to door. No, no. In my, like, I don door no no in my like i don't allow shit in my bed okay stuff yeah there's plenty of shit in my bed yeah okay i have yeah
Starting point is 00:51:32 um where can people find you um sarah shower on tiktok youtube instagram i also have a podcast called the bcc club where it's not bbc um that is a funny accident though and black cucumber no people always like i get introduced at comedy shows and they they're like and this is sarah shower of the bbc and i'm like they expect like a serious british person and i'm like what's up guys oh see scissoring okay my mind didn't go to british broadcasting oh i i went oh yeah to British Broadcasting. Oh. I went to. Oh, yeah. Big. Yeah, I understand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Well, that's, that's, I mean, look it up. The SEO will help us out. I think. You do stand up in the area? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Are you fucking terrified? No, I. You love it. Yeah, yeah. I take Ativan. Fierce. Fierce. Skymed.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Yeah, yeah. It's not just for the sky. Yeah. Fierce. Well, thank you so much for not just for the sky. Yeah. Fierce. Well, thank you so much for having, or for coming on the pod. Thank you for having me. And, um, have a lovely day. Thanks. Bye.

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