The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - Alexis Thunderstorm 500 with Alaska Thunderf*ck

Episode Date: January 5, 2021

Alaska 5000 talks beauty icons, making catchy music, and finally realizing how beautiful she is while on molly at Burning Man. Brace yourself for some not-so-glamorous drag memories, nostril waxing, a...nd what the hell is ear candling?  To follow Alaska: @theonlyalaska5000 To follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel To follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To listen to our podcast on YouTube: http://bit.ly/TBATBYT Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:44 Eligibility and member terms apply. And welcome back to another riveting episode of The Bald and the Beautiful. The Bald and the Beautiful featuring Trixie Mattel and Katya Zomoluchkova. And today we are joined by the complex multi-talents of the inimitable. One of the most incredible, show-stopping, never the same, puke on it, throw it up, club. Another club. Honestly, just one of my favorite drag queens of all time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:21 She's the queen of drags. Alaska Thunderfun. Yeah. She's the queen of drags. Alaska Thunder Fun. Yeah. Hi. Alexis Thunderstorm 500. Do you have a pageant drag name? Is there some kind of version of that? Um,
Starting point is 00:01:34 yes. I mean, yes, it's, um, it's Juno Fairbanks because they're both cities in Alaska. Oh, you really went hard left.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Oh, that's funny. That's funny. Um, hi, my name is Juno. Alaska Thunder Oh, you really went hard left. Oh, that's funny. That's funny. Hi, my name is Juno. Alaska Thunder Fund, Iman Dupree Andrews, at large, plus. Elite. Elite.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Elite. So for the people at home, you recorded the most wonderful little greeting for my stage show back in, was it last year or a couple years ago? And I swear to God, every night you introduced yourself as Alexis Thunderstorm 500. And I laughed every single fucking time.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Every single time. It was just so great. I love a drag name on a drag name. Alexis Thunderstorm. 500. 500. I love that. It's really good. what kind of recording device do you use remotely oh my god what is this okay it's like there's a here i'll show you it's like
Starting point is 00:02:34 a micro it's a microphone we are talking to one of the world's premier yeah drag recording artist drag podcast artists oh that's right. For Race Chaser. And those whores actually get in drag. So if you want to listen to some quality content. Do you really? Do they get in drag? They do sometimes. I see the face there.
Starting point is 00:02:53 I saw you guys at Bianca's poolside in drag. Right. I mean, as far as the listeners are concerned, yes, we do get in complete drag. Head to toe. Would you like to describe your look today? Well, yes. I mean, it's hard to describe. I guess these are barrel curls on the top.
Starting point is 00:03:13 It's sort of like, yeah, it's like a very high barrel curl. I have a lace front and it's also a lace back. You can see. The sides too, I see that. Yes, the nape of the neck is also full lace. The kitchen lace kitchen. Yeah. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Well, congratulations. And it was bold of you to wear a steel bone S&M corset. Those fetish heels that you can only sit in. Right. The Violet Chachki fetish heels. The commitment to glamour is very inspiring thank you so much people people have harassed us for like why don't you guys get in
Starting point is 00:03:49 drag for the podcast or they just want to videotape it yeah but i just feel like since there's multiple versions of us in drag on youtube every single week yeah give your boner a arrest yeah rubbing the skin off i was gonna say it needs a little bit of relief um do you how long have you been podcasting for miss thunderstorm i think it's been two years we've been doing it two years yeah two years it's such a great pod i love listening to you guys thank you uh well i started listening when you guys were originally like full-time doing drag race recap yes which was so fun because nobody like nobody really yeah nobody takes the piss out of it more than willem and no one's more religious about it than you are so there's a really good push and pull yeah um now tell me do you guys you like sort of went off the um
Starting point is 00:04:44 you kind of go off the rails in terms of like the timeline, right? Like you don't cover each season. Do you go off? Do you ever go off? Do you ever pop off at all? Sis, we go off, sis. We go off, sis. Do you ever snap so hard that you have to pop off?
Starting point is 00:05:00 Does your wig flew the chat? We started out, and I guess we must have started it in the off season, which now there is no Drag Race off season. It's just like, but we started out and we started from the very beginning, season one. And we were like going along and then like a new season aired while we were doing that. And we were like, I was like, oh oh man i wish we could talk about that season right it's happened all these other people are doing podcasts about it i wish we could talk about and then we were like why can't we do it like we can do whatever the fuck we want so yes so now when the when the current season comes on we we switch over and talk about it i think that's smart because that's what
Starting point is 00:05:46 people are gonna remember the most yeah i remember highlights of older seasons if i was a normal person of course we know like everything about those older seasons but oh yes it's like sports center it is very sports center yeah yeah and you know what Do you ever get this? Like people commenting about the, they're like, oh, too much drag race, like too much oversaturated. I was like, there are five golf channels.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Do you know what I mean? I used to watch seven seasons of a show. I didn't like to see one gay kiss. Yeah. What show was it? Don't watch it. Yeah. Don't watch it.
Starting point is 00:06:22 I'm going to say who it was. Monet exchange tweeted the other day. She was like, I already feel drag race fatigue or something. And I said, whore, don't watch it. Yeah, don't watch it. I'm going to say who it was. Monet X Change tweeted the other day. She was like, I already feel drag race fatigue or something. And I said, whore. Don't watch it. Miss whore. Miss whore. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:06:32 But the fans love to do that, too. I tried to call her to call her out, and she didn't pick up. So, Monet, I am formally challenging you. What is it? Martha, take it easy. Wait, who's the first? Oh, Patty, don't start. Patty, don't start. Martha, take it easy. Martha, take it easy. Wait, who's the first? Oh, Patty, don't start. Patty, don't start.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Martha, take it easy. Martha, take it easy. Martha, take it easy. That also works. Patty, don't start. No, it's true. The only time I feel like there's too many is when there's one season a year, you do as a viewer get very much more invested.
Starting point is 00:07:07 That's true. Versus like, I'm have to learn swedish to watch the season you know but that's like if you only have one meal a day then it tastes delicious that's not you know what i mean like you can go to five or six stores for just one you've got a big store it's very true and And I think that the drag race fandom is capable of handling two seasons at once. These are people that can take four loads a night. Yeah. Girl. We're capable. We're totally capable.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And it's kind of an embarrassment of riches. It's a fun thing to complain about. Maybe that's why people say it. Oh, I know. Girl. Girl, bye. Gay people love to complain, period't you think yeah a hundred percent patty do gay people also love they're like representation and then they get it and they
Starting point is 00:07:51 hate whatever it is oh not that bad though oh yeah oh yeah we hate it yeah um so alaska thunder fun you were were recently featured. I don't want to put you on the spot or make you feel uncomfortable, but I just want to say your body is so insane. So we did a music video together, come in Brazil, and there are so many shots of you're posing in this leopard print dress. Yeah. And I just can't really get the proportions of your body in drag are so, like, crazy. Thank you. It's like, it's like almost grotesque.
Starting point is 00:08:39 It's like, it's. Here's how I feel that you, like, I remember one of my first Drag Race gigs. Do you remember me, you and Tammy Brown doing New Year's Eve in Portland, like six years ago? I do. I remember it well. Our dressing room was the hallway.
Starting point is 00:08:53 A hallway. Yeah. And I remember watching Alaska, who's obviously so famous to me at the time, changing out of a suitcase in a dark, wet hallway. And I was like, oh,
Starting point is 00:09:02 this is it. This is what we're aspiring to. But I had never seen somebody so little pad so big. And like, I mean, it's a two hour glass. How like how long have you had that shape? And does it change ever? Well, you know, I mean, it's incredible. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I've just sort of always been built this way. And, you know, I just it's I just eat, you know, I eat healthy. And it's just natural, you know. No, I find that a large ass is comforting to people. I don't know what, like, audience-wise. And, like, I've recently really gotten into Selena and I've been like going and watching her like old performances and like her interviews and everything but like something about that sort of like it's your seat is very like grand and like verbose
Starting point is 00:10:01 it's comforting. And physically comforting because you're sitting on pads. I was going to say, if you ever, you won't break a tailbone because you'll get the padding if you fall. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Which happened to me. I'm very grateful. Drag queens really could be crash dummies. Yeah. We are a lot of times. I could be a Jennifer Coolidge stunt double.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Have you broken a bone in drag? In drag? No. Have you? No. Have you ever broken a, have you done a shangela full femur snapped out of the skin never done that fracture i don't really do enough to warrant a broken bone
Starting point is 00:10:33 if you if some i will say if if you you or i she does splits but if you or i broke something i think people go doing what doing what exactly oh falling off the stage yeah have you ever taken a great fall up there on the stage oh many many times is there enough for a compilation i don't know probably they're all out there but then really have you like eaten shit like this one has i mean she really ate shit like hands both hands in the air both hands wiggling yeah the problem with that is that the like you fell into the darkness like when you fall on stage then you can just sort of like stay down there and continue doing your thing but like you fell into the orchestra pit and disappeared you had no way of recovering both my shoes fell off and it was like a five minute mix and they fell off 30 seconds in
Starting point is 00:11:26 so then people tips me grimacing like oh you know uh i wasn't hurt i was i was embarrassed and scared but you know who else had a great great fall uh in drag have you obviously the the battle of the seasons one oh yeah jinx but the other good one of Jinx is her and major scales. And she's like, here's to the ladies in drag. And she throws out her arm and hits the drink out of majors. Oh no, no,
Starting point is 00:11:52 no, no, no. Yes, yes, yes. And then she eats shit. And then I love you Jinx,
Starting point is 00:11:55 but she turns on him so fast on that stage. She's like, would my piano player get out of here before he ruins the show? And I'm like, Oh my God. Yeah. I haven't seen that one. It got ugly. It got really got ugly but you know what though i get it falling in front of people and she's singing live yeah
Starting point is 00:12:13 that's humiliating i think it was at west five it looked like west five she said i'm not gonna make a joke out of this i'm not gonna like laugh it off i not going to make a joke out of this. I'm not going to like laugh it off. I'm going to viciously attack my piano player and blame him. Because I think it was his fault. Yeah, she should have looked at it. By the way, I think he was presenting her with a drink, like a full drink. Yeah. Which, you know, that's where he crossed the line, trying to help her and keep that woman hydrated.
Starting point is 00:12:41 How dare. So can I ask, when did you know you were beautiful? Oh, yeah. This is called the bald and the beautiful. We're bald and you're beautiful. And since you're not bald... I know how dare I have hair. It's really... Honestly. In 2020?
Starting point is 00:12:56 The audacity. How dare. So, you agree. So, you think you're beautiful. So, you think you're really beautiful. Or when did you start to feel beautiful, in or out of drag? Um, no,
Starting point is 00:13:10 the first, it's, this is, I was at Burning Man and it was the first time I ever went to Burning Man. Many, many years ago.
Starting point is 00:13:19 And I was like, and I went to Burning Man and I was like, I'm gonna, I'm not gonna bring drag. I'm not gonna, I don't want people to call me Alaska. Man and I was like, I'm not going to bring drag. I don't want people to call me Alaska. I just want to exist outside of drag because drag takes over your life. And I was trying to not do that.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Then, of course, as soon as I was there, I was like, okay, let's get into it. Did you bring drag? No, but I was staying with Comfort and Joy, which is a camp which is all fairies. So drag was just everywhere. There were just like boxes of it. So like I found this Brown hair and I used my, my, my own hair in the front and then added this Brown hair to it.
Starting point is 00:13:57 And we ate Molly and we were riding bikes around the playa at night. And I stumbled into this, um, this tent that was selling true mirrors and a true mirror is like it's kind of like a shadow box almost and then there's two mirrors that meet at a perfect angle and so it's a reflection of your reflection so you're seeing yourself how other people see you.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Oh, gotcha, gotcha. So it's a little scary and a little weird. Like when you move to the left, the reflection moves to the right. Like it's really weird. And I looked in this true mirror and of course I was on Molly's. It was really twisted. And I was like, Oh my God, I'm so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And I had never, you know, like I, I had never really had that thought or that notion tangibly before that moment. I love that. Wow. Burning man of all places.
Starting point is 00:15:03 I know. Yeah. Do you identify as a burner? No. And I, I love that. Wow. Burning man of all places. I know. Yeah. Do you identify as a burner? No. And I love it. I love the sentiment of it. But the porta potties, I went a few years ago with Willem and Courtney. And we had a great time.
Starting point is 00:15:21 But I was like, I think I just need plumbing. Like I can't. I'm married. That is my Burning Man. Seriously. My Burning Man is like a bathtub. Like a hotel bathroom is my Burning Man. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I know. I can't imagine getting in drag like without like a proper shower and then. Air conditioning. Dust and shit. Oh my God. It's rough. Crazy. And it. Yeah. And people fucking and shit. Oh my God. It's rough. And people fucking and sucking.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Pardon my French. People fucking and sucking covered in dirt. Covered in dirt and dust. Mad Max, Waterworld, pussy. Dookies. I can barely put contact lenses in my eye at Burning Man.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I can't imagine like getting fucked at Burning Man. I cannot. And they're doing it. But they do it. They do it. Pregnancy scares. I had a pregnancy scare at Burning Man. I cannot. And they're doing it. But they do it. They do it. Pregnancy scares. I had a pregnancy scare at Burning Man.
Starting point is 00:16:12 No. That's not true. Thank you for clarifying. Yeah. I was looking at Christmas specials to watch with my family this week for Christmas and I was like at Christmas specials to watch with my family this week for Christmas and I was like let's see what Bunny's up to
Starting point is 00:16:28 and I turned it on for a second and she said he dumped he came into my ass pumping my rump and then she rubbed her butthole and smelled it and licked it and I was like maybe we'll do Tammy's holiday sparkle instead
Starting point is 00:16:43 for the family for the family for the family gathering Bun Bun is wild who's your fave drag queens who made you want to start drag he finally did come I need to watch the Lady Bunny one my favorite drag queens I mean Jackie B
Starting point is 00:17:04 is definitely up there b is definitely up there um divine is definitely up there well jackie invented divine just so you know jackie is divine's drag mom You know, RuPaul Of course Yeah Wait, how long has it been since you won All Stars? It's been 84 years It's been 84 years I think that was 2016 2016
Starting point is 00:17:40 Would you ever go back to do like another Yes You would, really? Yes, of course Would you ever go back To do like another Yes You would really Yes Of course Would you go back No No
Starting point is 00:17:50 Not even Do you want to go back I would now Yeah You would I would Yeah Oh no
Starting point is 00:17:54 I'm taking the money and run Okay I got lucky the first time I would just go like Just go have a wiggle Yeah Yeah Well I will say It's more fun
Starting point is 00:18:03 Like Celebrity Drag Race And Christmas Hollis Slay Spectacular. Going and not competing is very fun. Yeah. And I guess if you're smart, you can just get into it and compete well by not thinking too much about it. Yeah. I would just pretend it was the Hollis Slay Spectacular.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Exactly. It's All Stars 26 or whatever. And I'm like, you know. You guys should go back. That's what I. Wait, let's take a break and go back. That's what I wait. Let's take a break and we'll talk more about it. Okay.
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Starting point is 00:19:54 Visit dynamic.ca slash advice to learn more. And we're back talking with the confirmed cast of All Stars 47. Seriously. Confirmed. We should go back as like different, with pseudonyms. Different personas entirely. Yeah. I would do Sigourney Beaver or Bumpy Bullet.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Bumpy Bullet? Bumpy Bullet. Yeah. Yeah. That's up there with Frisbee Jenkins. Do you know Sasha? Wait a minute. I know who Frisbee Jenkins is.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I just saw her OnlyFans or her Twitter. Yeah. Her Twitter is incredible. Do you know Sasha Bell from season seven of RuPaul's Drag Race? Do I? I do. Do you think I don't know? Do you think I don't follow Sasha XXLl on twitter you can crack the code all over her
Starting point is 00:20:48 twitter she's looking really incredible so good she looks good she's so hot i would fuck her soap she's doing it right she's like i'm gonna i'm gonna do only fans and give the children something that they truly will thirst after. Balls dick out. Yeah. Ass out. Like, it's incredible. Frisbee Jenkins. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:11 And did you know her original drag name was Frisbee Jenkins? I didn't know that. I just always, like, see it on her things. So good. Oh, hold on. Sorry. Oh, I guess I can't go off. I was going to bring up my drag name file.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Hold on. Can you still hear me? Yeah, we would love to hear your drag name file. Oh, my God. I mean, they're all mostly horrible, but okay. That's the point. Okay. I love good drag names.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Oh, and I also put jokes in here. She didn't get a standing ovation. She got a laying down ovation. Whatever happened to Baby Janeway? What happened to Baby what? Baby Janeway, like Captain Janeway from whatever. Okay, they're not good. Sorry, we don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Teenage Mutant Tina Turners. Okay. That is funny. That is really funny. That's good. Teenage Mutant Tina Turner's. Okay. That is funny. That is really funny. That's good. Tina Turner. Roxy thought of one. We thought of one once.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Party Turner. Oh, Party Turner. Party Turner. Oh. I think Party's a good name. Earthaclit. That's great. Oh, stop it.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Earthaclit's great. Earthaclit. That's great. Oh, stop it. Earthaclit's great. Earthaclit. Bonnie Cunt. Oh, that's a nice one. That's a nice one. Bonnie Cunt. There's such a commitment to have some of these really profane names. I guess you would know, huh?
Starting point is 00:22:37 Yeah, do you ever, I mean, I'm sure you have to like kind of adjust, or not really. Do you have to adjust your uh name for marketing purposes it's very it's it's like those memes where it's like this is me on linkedin this is me on facebook it's like on twitter i'm alaska thunderfuck on facebook i'm alaska 5000 um and uh and then there's like alaska thunder fun there's just alaska there's like you get on on parlor you're beth hansen right yeah parlor isn't parlor like the republican facebook yeah beth hansen from joliet illinois should we join parlor i have thought about what about a mass what's the what's the opposite of exodus where we all show up somewhere? Crashing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:27 A mass infiltration of parlor, a bunch of the cross dressers. Like we should turn that into our, like our thing, our drag my space. Yeah. I, yeah, but you know what though?
Starting point is 00:23:35 Why can't we just hang out? I just want to hang out. I just want to hang out and have coffee. So you did, do you guys want to talk about come, come in Brazil? I want to hang out. I just want to hang out and have coffee. Do you guys want to talk about Come in Brazil? I want to because I'm telling you I'm not over this body thing. The body. The body is incredible because you have this waist that's so thin. But you have very broad shoulders.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Thank you. You're not a petite little wisp of a thing. You're quite tall. No, I'm a giant. And you have like the supermodel body. I mean, it is wild. It's so wild. That's what Jade Jolie says is them shoulders need to match them hips.
Starting point is 00:24:19 And I learned that in like art classes, like women typically have their shoulders and their hips match in proportion. So like actually I have to kind of pad wide because I do have broad shoulders. So in order to just like balance the whole picture, she does need to like have a wide set. Especially since you show your arms all the time arms and shoulders you give really good arm and shoulder that's so nice i mean i hate showing my
Starting point is 00:24:52 arms it makes me uncomfortable but the ventilation is it must be so amazing and you have great skin do you tan yes every day fantastic i like, it's winter right now, so I have, like, one sliver of light along the side of my house from the moment of 11 to 11.30. So that's my tan. Beauty-wise, what is, like, what is the Alaska Thunder Fun 5000 regimen? What does it consist of, of like on the face area? Do you wash your face with soap?
Starting point is 00:25:28 I, um, no. Do you know Willem uses bar soap on her face? That tracks. That's not surprising. That tracks. That's not surprising.
Starting point is 00:25:37 That's wild to me. I use like a thing that my, I have a facial guy and, uh, integrity skin care. I, i do you like have you gotten the vampire facials and all that stuff no but i have a facial guy like when the world used to be like a thing i used when i was in san francisco i would get facials from integrity skin care my friend brandon works there and um he does really great stuff and he does like um the have you ever had your nostrils
Starting point is 00:26:06 waxed oh we did it in beauty school it's pretty crazy what is that what does it consist of it's tell them yours he puts hot wax on a little stick like a popsicle stick and puts it in your nose lets it set and then yanks it out and it pulls out every single last hair. And then he shows it to you and it's like a little cactus. It's crazy. But wait, isn't it like, don't you have to watch out for ingrown hairs inside the nose with the waxing? Have you ever heard about that?
Starting point is 00:26:38 No. It's pretty sick when they do it. I've never had it done to me. It looks like it hurts so bad. It's probably just a quick... Yeah, it just feels like a sneeze. It's fierce. Yeah, it would make your eyes cry for sure.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Oh, for sure. Yes. It's amazing. I want the ear thing. You know what I mean? They do that thing, they light it. What do they do? Oh, the ear candling?
Starting point is 00:27:02 Yeah. Sis wants to do ear candling. Ear candling? She's going to do do ear candling. Ear candling? She's going to do a DIY. She's going to be a birthday candle sticking out of her ear being like, this isn't the same.
Starting point is 00:27:10 I'm just going to stick a candle in my ear and light it. Have you ever done that? I don't understand it. Didn't you do that on your OnlyFans? That's what Frisbee Jenkins is doing.
Starting point is 00:27:23 She's ear candling. We're going to have Frisbee Jenkins over here I would love to see it Up on the pod to talk about transitioning from a A drag queen to a To a fuckable hunk of a like Girl I'm not gonna say daddy cause he's younger than me Right
Starting point is 00:27:39 Fuckable hunk of a man Good job Yeah god bless her Dump her in the back Yeah she's And I mean if we're being Sister dick make you sick but Fuckable hunk of a man. Good job. Yeah, God bless her. Big dumper in the back. Yeah, she's, and I mean, if we're being, sister dick make you sick, but she has a beautiful dick. Oh yeah, she does have, she has a great dick.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Yeah. It's so weird to be like, I would fuck her. But I would. But I would. And what? I mean, I would, and I, she's so attractive. I'm not assuming that she would want to fuck me. We're not assuming, but if you're listening, please reach out. I'm prepared to fuck you.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Oh, my God. You know who else's podcast I like if we're talking about the girls with pods? Mr. Roger and Delta. Roger and Delta. So good. Raja talking about TikTok. Raja said, I don't want to kick a shoe and change my outfit. I like the outfit I have on.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I love that. God forbid Fashion Bud doesn't take an online return. Delta's like, we've got an episode. We've got a full episode. Your fashion comes from a bug i love listening to roger talk adult is so great i mean she will literally like yeah she will uh a drive-through like um uh altercation will will set her off. Set her off. Set her off. It's the best. She's amazing.
Starting point is 00:29:08 And she can like, she can say one word and it can be like, she can be like, hello. And her level of sarcasm is so varied and layered. She can just say a single word
Starting point is 00:29:21 and you're like, oh my God, that's hilarious, fierce. And I also feel red and i also just am living i she acknowledged me but also i feel bad yeah i love that she's oh she's making fun of me to my face right now i love her she has that i mean dad that brittle like layers of dry. Did I read? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Did I read? Absolutely. Did I read? Absolutely. Our little rattles, we like to say to ourselves, my new one is malicious gay faggotry. It can just apply to anything. That's nice.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Faggotry in Motion is going to be Lola's first album. Faggotry in Motion. Faggotry in Motion is going to be Lola's first album. Faggotry in Motion. Faggotry in Motion. How many albums of drag music have you produced to date? Oh my gosh. Well. We are quizzing you. I don't know why I, just music, say in general.
Starting point is 00:30:32 There's three solo albums and then Jeremy and I did an album and then I did the album with the AAA girls. So that's like. Oh, you did a whole album. We did. Yeah. Okay. You have the best music. I mean, it is fantastic. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:30:40 It's so good. And it's funny because like so on on my ep it was um you know featuring trixie mattel you did one sentence and then featuring alaska and you sang the whole song yeah so thank you for that all the comments were like i can't believe she has a feature and she said one line from silence of the lambs like and what yeah so good your music is so good and all your videos some of them are five plus years old. They look like they were made yesterday. Like they're just, they're amazing. So good.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Can I ask? I mean, I know it's old to you probably. The video for Your Makeup is Terrible is so good. And the video for This Is My Hair is so amazing. Yeah. Just your videos are so great. There was a horse in that, wasn't there? There was.
Starting point is 00:31:23 We got a fucking horse. So wild. Oh, we were in the, wasn't there? There was. We got a fucking horse. So wild. Oh, we were in the video for the tea. The tea. Yep. I remember that. That continuous shot, that tracking shot. What a production that day.
Starting point is 00:31:34 One shot. It was wild. Thank you for being in it. That was... I flew from Provincetown to come in and do... Oh, I'm in it for two seconds doing this. That's it And I felt so included and
Starting point is 00:31:47 I mean if we're being gauche Alaska also You paid us Yeah that was very nice Yeah the girls Paying the girls in this economy Well these were different times we all had jobs Today would she pay us I don't know She'd be like
Starting point is 00:32:03 Definitely not that was such a fun little shoot it was like in that little warehouse kind of space i want to do more music videos like um do you like making music videos no i don't either it's rough did you alaska do you like making videos rough i like it's having music videos yeah i like having them. I like planning them. Yes, I wish making them felt like watching them at the end. When it is what you want and you watch it, you feel like that girl. But when you're making it, you're like, I'm an hour in and I already sweated off
Starting point is 00:32:34 everything. Yeah. Although our shoot, the Come and Brazil shoot was really like pretty leisurely, don't you think? It was spread out over two days. Yes. Yes, which is always love. But like it was leisurely for me, girl. You were.
Starting point is 00:32:49 I mean, you had fucking prosthetics glued on your face. Oh, but that's that's fun, though. You just sit there. She did. You. They were pumping liquid. I thought that was. They were.
Starting point is 00:33:03 They were pumping liquid into the prosthetic on your face. Pumped. Pumped. Honey, pump. Honey, pump. Pump it like a trumpet. Oh, my God. Somebody commented on it.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I just did this comedy video with Michael Henry, and there's a few comments that are like, well, Miss Trixie's getting fully pumped and tucked. I guess it works. I haven't had anything. What are they talking about? They think my face looks like I got a bunch of work done. Wow.
Starting point is 00:33:29 I was like, all right, the new getting work done is getting nothing done and insisting that you, I just got a little. Leave them guessing because you did nothing and you're like, I just got a little. Would you go, would you get the full yank? Would you get the face snatched off and pissed back on? 20 years from now, the full yank. No, I'm going to do it early. I'm going to do it at 40.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I think I'm going to get a lower facelift because they say for men it's better to do it early and then it just sort of sits in the right place as you get older. Yeah, get the full Renee Zellweger. Get an identity theft. Unrecognizable. face ID on my phone. Does it recognize me? A hundred percent.
Starting point is 00:34:10 And then a tiny little, like a nose job to make your nose like just tiny. I'm like barely there. Yeah. I like when the work is, you haven't improved the person's looks. They just have changed into a new human. Right. So they're not pretty or you're younger, just different DNA. It's a lateral move. It's a lateral move.
Starting point is 00:34:25 It's a lateral move. I love that. I'm on the run. Well, Kristen Wiig, I feel like just- I didn't want to say it. Oh, why? Why?
Starting point is 00:34:32 But you said it. I know. So Kristen Wiig apparently had some kind of thing done in Miami. She went to the dentist. That's what I thought. I said it's veneers.
Starting point is 00:34:42 No, I'm just making a joke. Going to the dentist in Hollywood means you got the face snatched off. Sweet. All I could think of is like, okay said it's veneers. No, I'm just making a joke. Going to the dentist in Hollywood means you got the face snatched off. All I could think of is like, okay, she got veneers. But I don't know. I'm not good with like pinpointing, you know. I didn't think she looked. First of all, she's so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:34:56 And I didn't think she looked quote unquote better. I just thought she looked different. Like lateral move. Yeah. And also at 46 or seven, like what's, I mean. But you know what? We've talked about it on this show before with all kinds of surgeries.
Starting point is 00:35:09 If you get what you want out of it, you better work. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, if she's happy with it, great. But if those Wonder Woman people put her up to it.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I hope they pressured her. Gal. Gal Gadot. Gal Gadot. I blame Gal Gadot. How weird is it that Gal, her most famous role is woman. Wonder Woman?
Starting point is 00:35:31 Yeah. But Wonder Woman is so fierce. I know, but her name is Gal, and she plays the woman. Oh my God. It's so weird. Do you know what I mean? I can't believe that.
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Starting point is 00:37:35 I love Raquel Welch in Myra Breckenridge. Girl. Girl. That movie made literally no sense. the looks right the face the 60s look oh my god and may you gotta watch it it's so weird like literally just watch the May West parts you don't need the rest of the movie just the May West did you understand that movie? I was made to feel uneducated and dumb by the plot. It doesn't fit in with modern day standards of decency as far as like the plot of the story. It's like this, this like this.
Starting point is 00:38:17 It's like about this like gay guy who who just gets a sex change in order to like get revenge on the people who like who tortured him as a young person and so it's like that doesn't really work with like that doesn't the messaging is a little off yeah but Mae West is in
Starting point is 00:38:40 it and she's it's like one of her last movies and she's like 80 and like still like fucking room fulls of men and like. Yeah. And Raquel Welch, her face and the hair. The hair, the body, the clothes. And when somebody makes me want to have brown hair, they are beautiful. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:39:00 I never covet brown hair unless it's like a Lisa Marie Presley. Sophia Loren. Girl, yes. One of these days, one of these days we're all going to go brunette. I never covet brown hair unless it's like a Lisa Marie Presley Sophia Loren girl yes one of these days we're all gonna go brunette I just know it I know we're all gonna go brunette let's do it one day I cannot imagine
Starting point is 00:39:18 brunette bitch never one of these days someday when we do a shot for shot remake of Practical Magic though we are gonna have to do red hair and brunette yeah
Starting point is 00:39:29 wait am I Nicole Kidman though I feel like I think you're Nicole Kidman yeah yeah yeah have you ever done a redhead oh yeah I like red you do
Starting point is 00:39:36 do you like wearing red hairs Alaska I understand that it is beautiful and I do she wore it in the video she wore red hair in our
Starting point is 00:39:44 for some people it just makes sense like I couldn't imagine another color on Jinx yeah right I could imagine her as a brunette yeah or like when Ginger is um when Ginger does brown hair I'm fine with it but Ginger Minchin red is like oh that's your hair color right
Starting point is 00:40:00 for sure this is the color that's growing out of your head yes exactly oh um what's her face? Mary Mack. Oh, yeah. Red, red, red. Total red hair. I understand that it's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:40:12 So, like, I get it. But I'm also like, I know that Alaska ultimately has blonde hair. Yeah. And dark eyes. Yeah. That's just who she is. Yeah. Do you like wearing dark lips?
Starting point is 00:40:26 No. I mean, I have a hard time with it. Dark what? Dark lips. Oh, dark lips. I understand that it's beautiful, but it's not. But I don't, like, I don't care. It's got to be a dark eye.
Starting point is 00:40:39 It's got to be a light lip. It's got to, like, that's just how it is. You do have that light lip. I feel this. I think I wear a heavier eye as well i do i do do you ever wear lashes i feel because i wear i feel because i wear such heavy eyes it's hard for me to put on even a like a red lip sometimes and feel like whoa i love heavy eyes and heavy lips but you pointed out katya pointed out something to me like in those big stages though the nudes don't read like even with the dark line of the nudes don't really read like on a theatrical setting yeah
Starting point is 00:41:15 unless you're doing like unplugged or whatever unless i'm doing like a dark brown liner with like a glitter nude lip i know that it doesn't really read. Yeah. That's why I just get pumped. Oh, yeah. Your lips are pretty awesome. And you had thin, villainous lips on your season of Drag Race. Well, I don't. I think people's perception. Hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:41:38 No, that's villainous. I think people's perception of beauty has changed, and maybe that's why people say That I have had my lips done But you know honestly I think really the world has changed And so people see me differently I think your eyes have shrunk
Starting point is 00:41:56 And so everything looks bigger Well you're tan now So of course the lips look bigger Yeah things change And you know I've grown into my face a little bit and yeah that's what happened to my teeth too people's perceptions just changed yes this one got lips right before the red scare campaign shoot and you couldn't tell her nothing mary i love it i love you're gonna get more again yes absolutely. Absolutely. You ready? Good for you. I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I mean, it's very subtle and that's... Yeah. It's like I... But it's funny though because I'll look back at pictures before and I'm like, no lips. That person has no lips. And I fully have lips. It's just like... No lips, who dis? It's a little bit of that.
Starting point is 00:42:41 It's crazy. I think like because I draw mine on so big it's never even crossed my mind yeah because it's like who cares yeah it'd be ridiculous but um oh well can i ask another a good question why yeah that's a good question why yes we love drag we love other drag queens what drag queens out there their personal style their look where you're like i want to walk a day in that who do you covet whose closet would you raid oh my gosh i mean how nice would it be to just be violet chachki for like a day yeah we just had her as a guest and her life philosophies were very inspiring yeah yeah i would love to look like her but I would not love to wear the clothes. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:43:26 Like I wouldn't have to, I wouldn't want to do what it takes to look that good. Yeah. Because it's just too painful. Painful and sickening and always, never the same, always different. Referencing, not referencing. Club. Bus. No sleep.
Starting point is 00:43:43 No sleep. And I say again, in case you didn't hear me. Club. Another club. Another club. And I say again. I just saw a meme that was like me when Corona's over. Club.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Another club. Another club. I am so ready to go to like Precinct and watch a drag queen and get a little blasted. Lotto. It's going to be the Roaring Twenties. I was just told about this. It's gonna be Great Gatsby again. It's gonna be queer as folk, like
Starting point is 00:44:11 the 90s nightlife. I'm gonna wear a tank top, fishnet tank top, nipple ring. I'm gonna do like gay Ken frosted tips. I don't know how you frosted tip a bald head, but I'm doing it. We're doing uh oh my god it's gonna be really good yeah i like that we're all gonna go out every night for like a month and we're we're not just gonna wear clothes it's gonna be
Starting point is 00:44:37 turning looks because we have so much pent up you know know, glamour. I haven't nutted in nine months. Oh my gosh. Yeah, Violet's pretty much, who else besides Violet? Who's the one? Who's the one? You could probably fit RuPaul gowns, honestly. Yeah. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:44:58 I want to steal one so bad. Which one do you want? Like, you know, they display them at drag con and we're always, we always have access to drag con. Like when they're loading in and loading out, bitch, I could fucking, I could steal one of those garments and it would fit me and I would wear it. Yeah. But if you stole it and then it went missing and then they saw you in it,
Starting point is 00:45:23 would you, would this be like your swan song? You want to go to prison? You're just like, this is my look. It'd be a great press day. It would be a great press hit. And you return it. Yeah. A cat burglar. And even though you could just grab it at DragCon, I want you to Mission Impossible drop from
Starting point is 00:45:37 the ceiling. You install lasers to put... Yes. You put glass around it just to cut a hole in it. Catherine Zeta-Jones. Yeah. Entrapment. Entrapment. You guys wear a lot of the same silhouettes.
Starting point is 00:45:47 I used to get costumes from Dallas who makes a lot of your costumes and she said that your silhouette is Marge Simpson. Strapless. It's Marge Simpson with tall hair. You're the Marge Simpson of drag and I'm here to show people I still got it.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Please. Marge Simpson. I love that. I mean to show people I still got it. Please. Marge Simpson. I love that. I mean, I'm obsessed with your silhouette. That like strapless, like skin tight. Skin tight. Body. Tons of curves.
Starting point is 00:46:14 And that tiny, tiny, tiny little waist. I loved your look from the finale of the All Stars reunion. Wasn't that the bugs? The cockroach? The bugs. Yes. So cute. That was great.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And then you were partially burned, and you call it your galaxy note. That's right, my Samsung 6 had exploded. That's amazing. What a fun reunion that was. That was actually, it was a little boring. Just to go back. It was a little boring.
Starting point is 00:46:40 I know it was a long time for you guys ago, but All Stars 2 was just the fucking best season of television on the planet i think it's the best season of drag race ever it is really do what do you think um i have not gone back and re-watched it so i don't know but i will when the podcast gets to it i don't know yes your contributions to it are very good your big reason why it's great yeah it was exciting the cast was really really amazing it was like we had we had all these great seasons of drag race oh work we sorry we had all these great seasons of drag race in a row and then it was just like all the best
Starting point is 00:47:19 queens from those seasons all in one place it was was great timing. We didn't know if All Stars was ever going to happen again, and then it did. And the first time that format existed. First time the format existed. Yeah, the twist. Yeah. Y'all wanted a twist. Were you guys gagged when they pulled that out?
Starting point is 00:47:36 Absolutely. I mean, I actually naively thought stupidly. I was like, oh, we're just going to get like- We're just going to hang out. No, seriously. I was like, we'll all be here till the end and we'll get points. We're going to have old country buffet and put on wigs. And like, you'll get a marble for each win.
Starting point is 00:47:51 And then at the end of the season, you count your marbles and you get like some money or whatever. We literally all thought that. Yeah. Nothing could be further from the truth. You guys both really smoked them. No, I mean, she really smoked. She really came in there like she was clearing the Amazon rainforest. Just like both really smoked them. No, I mean, she really smoked. She really came in there like she was clearing the Amazon
Starting point is 00:48:07 rainforest, just like a bulldozer. You did. We were together the night you won. Wasn't that the most magical night? Yeah, it was cool. It was at Precinct in LA, which you couldn't really ask for a better... I won at Roscoe's, which was also equally magical.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Confetti rained from the ceiling and confetti rained from the ceiling. And I was like, I couldn't believe it. And T-Rex said, yeah, it was for when you lost, but we didn't want to waste it. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:48:39 It was so magical when you won. And then you had that tall, tall wig on. Marge Simpson. Marge Simpson. And tall wig on and we had simpson yeah march simpson and we had to love we had to get that tiara thing or like drop it over the hair like putting on a condom like a scud missile that's so it's so funny i love that it was really magical how would you describe your um this is kind of a dumb question but like how would you describe your personal style in drag and do you have time for style and glamour out like when the drag is off
Starting point is 00:49:14 like your boy self does that ever get any like i um i'm the type of person that could eat like who could eat the same thing for dinner every night. And I could literally. Us too. Yeah, absolutely. I could also wear the same thing in drag for always. I,
Starting point is 00:49:36 I always feel the most comfortable when it's black plastic and I have blonde hair and I have dark eyes and a nude lip. And like, that's, I, that's just, I feel the most comfortable in that I could wear eyes and a nude lip. And like, that's, I, that's just, I feel the most comfortable in that. I could wear it every single fucking day.
Starting point is 00:49:49 And I do wear it very often. Yeah. I don't know if you're like me too, but I'll change one thing and I'll be like, I can't believe I've transformed on this day. You look exactly the same. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:02 From eggplant to beige. Aubergines. Right. Like, I can believe girl you've done it again taking risks oh my god uniforms though like in real life and in like yes i love uniforms yeah do you think it's because we've talked about this i think it's because the drag queens i like wanted to be like they looked the same all the time so i think i always wanted to look i want to be like a cartoon, same outfit every day. Yeah. Superhero and action figure, whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Yeah. Recognizable also when there's so many these days. Yeah. That's why I think if you're a kimchi or a Fifi and you're so good at being a chameleon, right. I think it's an uphill battle with people recognizing you unless you're like a television star,
Starting point is 00:50:40 you know, cause you could look different every time. Right. Yeah. Jessica rabbit wears the same hook and dress every night. So girl, vision star you know because you could look different every time right yeah jessica rabbit wears the same fucking dress every night so girl she's about to do what she's about to do and she's about to show what the other girls should have did and out of drag i don't know if you try but i always think you look really nice yeah you do
Starting point is 00:51:00 look really like put together um clean concise consistent i wear the same thing every day i i feel most comfortable in a black tank top and like pants presentation clean clean talent clean clean let me ask you this as a man will you wear a thong do you think thongs are sexy on men um i would wear it like for a gimmick i don't i i wouldn't wear it like as my daily underwear because i would just ruin it and it would just be covered in shit by the end of the day yeah to ask this woman to wear a thong would be to ask her to control her bowels and that's just something that's not on the table for her right now. It just isn't going to work out. Or ever. It's not going to work.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Thongs are making a comeback. I'm just letting you know. I'm going to wear that thong. I want that man to be able to floss before he eats. Do you like lace panties on men? I would fuck with a guy in a lace panty. I don't think I would wear it, but I think it's kind of cute when other people wear it. I wouldn't request it,
Starting point is 00:52:07 but if I saw it, I'd be like, oh, okay. Yeah. I love that. Cause anything that's like feminizing the masculine male is like a plus. Especially if he has a big can.
Starting point is 00:52:19 It's big old butt. And then like, he wants to get all like baggy. Or like kind of muscly and hairy with like a lace underwear. It's very like. I love that. Ding dong. Ding dong. We're looking for symmetry.
Starting point is 00:52:32 We're looking for precision. Girl, have you watched? We did an episode of obviously Glow Up on our Netflix show. And I'm so haunted by that final challenge with the lashes with the balls on them. Oh, God. We were just talking about when it comes to buying lashes, if you see feathers, if you see tinsel lashes, if you see little shapes, put them down. Just black. Just get a black lash.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Yeah, that's it. Don't try to. And why is it the first time any of us get in drag, we want like pink lashes? That was me. Why do we all want like blue lashes? Pink, feather, orange, blue. It's so, I don't know. We all thought that was the ticket.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Like, this is, baby, this is me. It's not nothing of the sort. A pink party page with blue feather lashes. Like, y'all can't take it. No. Y'all can't take it. We're at a Rocky Horror in 2006, and y'all can't take it. Yeah, it is not.
Starting point is 00:53:23 There's not even a pageant tonight but i'm getting a crown i'm winning they're so gutted that's what's fun about drag though from the second you start you're so bad but you feel it yeah you don't have to get good to feel it you you know you don't because oftentimes you don't people never get good oh for five years in ballet i never felt it i was like i'm not good at this versus like drag you can be bad and be like oh right only one i'm the only woman in the world right now yeah yeah it's a feeling it's an essence marilyn has an essence can i ask sort of an abstract i know we're keeping you a while but but I have a question about your music. Okay. How did you invent this? I mean, I'm not saying inventing a bitch track or like a talk over music, but how did you
Starting point is 00:54:11 invent this style of music for yourself? Because it really is so fun to listen to. And even in a club environment, we are screaming and talking. It's just like so easy to warm up to even if you've never heard it. Right. I mean, I don't know. It's stolen. I didn't invent it.
Starting point is 00:54:28 It's very like- Jackie invented it. Right. It's very like Jimmy James, like just stolen from that- Oh, it's Fashionista. Right. You got to have a look.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Give a look. Turn a look. I don't know that one. No one ugly allowed. Fashionista. Everybody line up. I don't know that one No one ugly allowed Fashionista Everybody line up I mean it's literally Like hi
Starting point is 00:54:52 Did you ever have that as your pre-show music at a drag show Girl it played in every club And I was like I want to do a song like that So I did hi And it was like this is That is such a good pre-show song this is the song you hear at the beginning of the drag show you know
Starting point is 00:55:09 get ready to tip is it tip these men tell us we look it's a great pre-show song perfect pre-show or mature song girl you've done it again also the drag song that really you can't go to a drag show anywhere without hearing it is Working Girl by Shangela.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Oh, 100%. Excellent song. It's the perfect drag song. You know what song I absolutely love though? Pump With Me by Sahara Davenport. Really good. It's really good. The melody is really, really lovely. And it's a great tune. I listened to it yesterday randomly. It's really good. The melody is really, really lovely.
Starting point is 00:55:45 And it's a great tune. I listened to it yesterday. It's like randomly. It's a really good song. Maybe we should work it into one of our shows. It's really good. Please. It's really, really good.
Starting point is 00:55:54 She's amazing. Yeah, fantastic. I just love you. I love you too. I just love you. I saw you last New Year's Eve at the Globe Theater. You were like one of the last drag shows I saw probably. And I appreciate you very much that night because you were the only person.
Starting point is 00:56:11 And the first thing you said to me was, you look really pretty tonight. But you were the only person who told me I look really pretty that night. And I was in such a, I was so stressed out. I was in such a mood. And you really like, you really elevated my mood. I don't know if you were just being polite or what. Oh, good. You looked great.
Starting point is 00:56:29 It really is very nice. That's why whenever I go to a drag show, I always tell drag queens they look amazing because sometimes it bears repeating. Yeah. It was what I needed. Like, you know. Yeah. That's very nice of you. It was what I needed. Like, midnight on New Year's,
Starting point is 00:56:48 which was, I didn't know, was about to be the worst year ever. Was that last year's New Year's? You with your backup dancers and your matching outfits doing, this is my hair for like thousands of people. I was like, this is New Year's, bitch. And it's probably the first New Year's I haven't worked
Starting point is 00:56:59 because my boyfriend was like, don't work this New Year's. And we got to see you and it was so lovely. And now we're going to be doing New Year's year oh yeah that's next week by the time this comes out we'll have already done it yeah 2021 so based on what we say you're welcome or we apologize we're very sorry oh my gosh well thank you thank you so much for joining us Miss Thunderfun If anybody wants to follow you Where can they find you?
Starting point is 00:57:31 On On Instagram It's At the only Alaska 5000 Because Somebody stole Alaska Thunderfuck And Alaska Girl don't even get me started.
Starting point is 00:57:46 I hate people. I had to be Trixie Mattel 8 on TikTok for the longest time. You're the eighth one. Which means seven people stole from me. Trixie Mattel 8. Did you type in each one? One.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Take it. Trixie Mattel. Oh, no. Three. You know you're famous when you have to be the only Trixie Mattel 8. The only. The only Trixie Mattel 8 at large.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Thank you both so much. It was great talking with you. Thank you. Merry Christmas to you. And to you. And so with you. Goodbye. Bye.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Bye.

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