The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - Kelly Mantle & Two Space Heaters to the Face with Trixie

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

Like a phoenix rising from the ashes of Sandy's ghost that was left in a frigid backstage green room on the Trixie and Katya Live tour, the exquisitely gorgeous, explosively hilarious, and effortlessly charming icon of stage and screen Kelly Mantle explodes into the studio like a jubilant grenade, spewing merriment into the faces of every human in the room. Close your shades, dim the lights, pour a pint of your favorite box wine, and slide into those special-occasion satin underwear for more than an hour of unfiltered elation with the one, the only: Kelly motherf**king Mantle. Take more control of your finances and say goodbye to monthly fees with Chime! Open your Chime account today in just a few minutes at https://Chime.com/BALD Chime. Feels like progress! Need to find the perfect gift for all the special people in your life? Don’t panic. Try Gift Mode on Etsy now! Head to: https://www.Etsy.com Rakuten's Big Give Week is back! From May 6th to May 13th, join Rakuten for free and get an extra 10% cash back boost. Go to https://Rakuten.com or download the Rakuten App today! Need a website? Head to Squarespace.com for a free trial, and when you’re ready to launch, go to https://www.Squarespace.com/BALD to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain! Follow Kelly: @KellyMantle Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To watch the podcast on YouTube: http://bit.ly/TrixieKatyaYT Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/baldandthebeautifulpodcast If you want to support the show, and get all the episodes ad-free go to: https://thebaldandthebeautiful.supercast.com If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be amazing! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/baldandthebeautifulpodcast To check out future Live Podcast Shows, go to: https://trixieandkatya.com To order your copy of our book, "Working Girls", go to: workinggirlsbook.com To check out the Trixie Motel in Palm Springs, CA: https://www.trixiemotel.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Network talent, Kelly Mantle. How are you? So this is, oh, I see how it works. Everything's backwards. It's a podcast. It's a podcast. Now, when we do have guests, I know it's tempting to stare at

the monitor of yourself i know it is she's like i don't know about this lighting y'all but now i have to look at you so wait a minute you were in drag at 10 a.m this morning honey i had to get up at 7 get in drag and we were live streaming at 10 today that is nuts how many things have you done so far today we We filmed today. We did a live stream because YouTube shopping has a new shopping feature and we did a collaboration with them today. So I was up doing like, like QVC showing products while people bought it live. It was really fun.

I love that. That's your fantasy. My dream, Kelly. It's been one of my dreams my whole life was to do like a live shopping event. So it was, it was thrilling. My heart was racing. Oh my God. I love that.

It was, it was the thrill of the theater. So it was thrilling. My heart was racing. Oh my God, I love that. It was the thrill of the theater. And then after that, Brittany Broski came over here and we did a video. We were decoupaging phone cases

to make mood boards. So I decoupage this today. Oh my God, I love that. Is that Martha Stewart? Yeah. And who's the bottom one? Serena Williams. Serena Williams.

I love Serena Williams. And sperm, bottoms. See, I have this terrible thing because I drop my phone all the time. Can we talk about this, Kelly? Girl, I drop my phone a million times a day. But if I didn't have it, I wouldn't have a phone list.

A smash phone is better than this. No. Are you in Tron? Are you alien versus predator? What is his phone case? No, I'm a camper. Do you know what I could see you driving, though? Like, I think in another life, Kelly,

you were conservative. Really? You would make a great conservative. No. Because you're kind of southern. That would be terrible. I could see you pulling up in a Land Rover I think in another life, Kelly, you were conservative You would make a great conservative No Because you're kind of southern That would be terrible I could see you pulling up in a Land Rover Or like a Humvee

And being like, you want my gun? Try and take it You try and take it This ain't Texas, honey This is Trixie's podcast And I'm gonna fuck you up Conti's not a part of it anymore That would be terrible

It's not Conti's podcast anymore No, it's not I just think it's funny that as soon as she goes away for a little while, you show up in full drag saying, well, I'm available. I just think it's funny.

Stop it. Now, you all called me. I didn't know nothing about nothing. And y'all called me up and asked me to be here. Now, get the story straight. I don't know nothing about birth and no babies.

I don't know nothing about... Trust me, I'm not trying to take no one's gig This is too much work You're like I'm already exhausted I am exhausted girl Is it over? I have to say we're lucky to get you look gorgeous

Doesn't she look beautiful in the studio everybody? She looks beautiful Guys if you ever see Kelly in person She is transfixing You have these big bambi eyes And they're this soft brown And you have this great sense of humor great body you're just a just a fucking beautiful lady well thank you so much so are you thank you you are we're lucky to have you in the look today because

i don't want to tell your business but you had a callback today i had my first in-person callback in since the pandemic i'm not lying wow how'd you feel getting up in the the callback since the pandemic. I'm not lying. Wow. How did you feel getting up in the callback gig? It feels amazing. Please bring back in-person. Is this the camera? Bring back in-person auditions for actors. We need them. We want them.

We want to be in the room with the casting directors. I understand that for a time we had to do self-tapes and I understand when you're out of town, you have to do self-tapes. I fucking hate self-tapes. You do? Hate them. I love it. Do you? town, you have to do self-tapes. I fucking hate self-tapes. You do. Hate them. I love it.

Do you? I feel like I only started getting... Well, I mean, you pretty much, you like live your whole life. I mean, this is like normal for you. It's not normal for me. To be in cameras talking to yourself. Yeah. I'm used to showing up in the room and you bring that energy in.

You get to kiki with the casting directors and the producers and the directors, the writers, whoever's in the room with you, you know, they get to give you some feedback and say, I like that, but try it this way. And then you get to show them you can make adjustments on the spot. Because that's a skill in itself. You don't get to do any of that in self-tapes. Yeah, because I mean, I guess for you, for like a real bona fide actor, you want to show them in person how you can take direction and spin it.

Yes, exactly. You know, there's a great story. Sean Hayes from Will & Grace. He went through like 15 different, you know, network callbacks to get that role on Will & Grace. Yeah, like it was between him and like one or two other guys. Could you imagine as anybody else? I know.

Can you? Like no one. I would love to know who was on that list. I know. Because he's kind of untouchable. Yeah, really is. I I mean he made it his own Amazing And he was in the room and it was his final network callback

And he was like okay they were like thank you And he turned around to walk out and he was like Stop looking at my ass And they all burst out laughing He shut the door and they were like that's him That's the one And it's little things like that that you can do in the room Sexual assault

You can't do that on self-take Kelly said stop looking at my ass They're like would you put pants on You're like why are you all picturing me naked They're like you are naked I'm naked all the time The rest is drag Oh yes show off that body

Girl you look amazing Oh thank you depression Is it really I love that for you I amazing oh thank you depression oh is it really yeah i love that everybody's like oh zempik i'm like do you think i'm gonna willfully stab myself with needles i don't care if it makes me live forever no well i have arthritis now hi old do you do honey yes and now they got me on this in the leg i had to do it yesterday once a week it's called enbrel i do it once in the leg and i had to shoot it up myself girl the psychological games kelly oh my god he's sitting there going oh my god just do it

just do it you fucking pussy like i just i have to psych myself i'm crying you should just put a little bit of hormones in that with it well that's what you'd think you know which hormones though i don't know i know how to moan like a whore but i don't know nothing about no hormone because sometimes i think i'm so i i see myself as so feminine don't laugh you are and sometimes i'm like should i take tea like i should be on like a cycle of testosterone of testosterone yes i look like handsome squidward square jaw i could be like could you imagine me with wide rage kelly wouldn't i be hot oh my god that would be so hot well the picture that you took in front of my dad bronco i mean that the picture you took of you in front of the bronco oh that's yes very yeah like you're totally giving like straight you know what it gave

my friend drives that truck and i was stood in front of it and i said take this picture and he took the picture and i said you don't have to be lonely with farmers only now if you weren't with um it's okay if i say your partner's name, if you weren't with, it's okay if I say your partner's name. If you weren't with James. Hi, James. So handsome. He is so cool. How lucky am I?

You are extremely lucky. Oh my gosh. The coolest fucking guy in the world. But you are so lucky. He'm so lucky. He worships you. He loves you. Oh my God.

He respects you, loves you. And it's mutual. It's completely mutual. But if you were single and you were out in the wild, Kelly. Now husbands, husbands at home with Kelly's husbands, all of them, all six of them, cover your ears. If you were out in the wild having to be a single gal again, would you take to the internet the internet do you think you would use the apps girl because you didn't do that did you i messed with craigslist a little bit i love that you think craigslist counts as one of the apps i messed with

craigslist a little bit well for my age group it does honey you are on craigslist girl short list missed connections honey well because that's what a lot of the dolls used to do right oh yeah oh yeah It does, honey. You are on Craig's list. Girl. His short list. Misconnections, honey. Well, because that's what a lot of the dolls used to do, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It was either Craig's. Well, you know, what's funny is back in the day, we had a Del Taco on the corner of Santa Monica and Highland. Right down the street from that was the Yukon Mining Company.

And we had some amazing trans clubs. You could go to 7969 Peanuts. We had the Lodge. 7969 Peanuts? Yes, girl. Girl, come to the Trans Illusion Showcase at 769 Peanuts. At 7969 Peanuts. Show hosted by Viva Sex.

I would have taken Miss Trixie with me because I always like to take the geishas with me so I would look more natural. I would be the best wing woman. Oh, totally. Well, look at that man in a wig. But look at her friend. Look at her friend. She just stepped out of the shower. She has no makeup on.

Exactly. I would always take my drag girlfriends and be like, wear your biggest wig. And then I would look super petite next to you. By the way, as if you need anybody next to you to look gorgeous and petite, you really are so striking. When I see you, I feel stricken. Grief stricken.

You are horrible. But when you were pre-James, when you were working, were you a dream girl or were you like a dream girl adjacent? No. You weren't doing the gigs. I never did the gigs. You were an actress. i was an actress through and through i grew up in theater i was doing theater and that is where i started being i mean i've always been a girl ever since i can remember you know what i mean ever since i was had a have a memory um a memory gland but and then you

know growing up in oklahoma i wasn't exposed to, you know, anything gay or trans or anything. And then boy, George came along and I'm like, okay, I think that's me. I think that's what I am. But yeah, I only did theater. I never did regular weekly drag shows. So I was never putting looks together three, four times a week, obviously. And so that was never my gig. I would go to them all the time as an audience member, but I was always off acting and doing theater and TV and film and all that bullshit. Again, you would go to the drag show,

let the men in sequence walk around on stage, and you would sit at the bar in a tight black dress like, oh, hello. Well, you know, at 7969... 7969 Peanuts. Viva Sex, 7969 Peanuts. Viva Sex, 7969 Peanuts. Viva Sex was the biggest Madonna impersonator in the world at the time. What a great name.

Viva Sex. Viva Sex. She was the hostess of the show. Raja did the show. Delta Work did the show. I partied with RuPaul back in the dressing room. I mean, we'd see Ru all the time. She used to come support the gals.

I feel like all the Southern California girls have a great, like, candid Rue story. Well, you know, she went through her little transy phase. You remember that? When she had the little long locks of hair and she would go on talk shows and wear the bell-bottom blue jeans, you know? Well, that was like the— During the fire. It was like the fire cover. Yeah, Red Hot.

Yes. During the fire. She wasn't in a house fire cover. She was in a fire. You made it seem like She was a firefighter She looks amazing But she looks amazing Coming out of that fire

You know Her album's called Red Hot And you said Remember RuPaul and the fire I don't remember the names Of these things I'm too I've smoked way too much weed

To remember details Red Hot is great Because it's RuPaul She's pivoted like this She has the long black Almost like gel curls Yes Crunchy 90s curls

Yes crunchy And she's got the RuPaul loves the lower teeth Oh yeah And she's really giving I love the Southern Cal girls because they all have a story of RuPaul Like Delta has a story about her like working the spotlight Working the spotlight, I've heard that Or people have stories about RuPaul just coming to a show

To support the girls I love stories like that I know, she was We would always hang out in the dressing room back there At 7969 Peanuts I can stories like that. I know. She was. We would always hang out in the dressing room back there at 7969 Peanuts. It was fun. I can't take that. Can we, if we're going to have a club for the dolls to meet discerning gentlemen, can

we call it like something kind of like La Cage? La Cage. The other one was The Lodge. And that's where you get all the big, you know, you'd get the crossdressers, the truck drivers. Get my shoes on, go to the lodge. Like, girl. Well, crossdressers are different. Well, you know, and they loved it.

And I loved them. I'd see them in the bathroom, you know, and I'd be touching up my makeup and they'd be like, Hi, my name is Stacy. What's yours? And I'm like, well, now you don't need to do that with your voice. Just talk natural. You're like, you're overshooting it a little. You're overshooting just a little, Stacy. You're bear like that's a little you know right i got into

drag in the back seat of my 18 wheeler tonight can i buy you a drink and i was like oh stacy i'm not into girls that way but thank you i know well in my experience, I guess the ethical term is cross-dressers. Yeah. Usually straight men who are attracted to women who wear the geish for their own power, for their own expression, sex sometimes. They tend to come on to the drag queens and I always have to go, oh, oh no, we're not doing that tonight. We're not doing that tonight, Stacey.

I was like, we can have a slumber party. Yeah, Stacey, you were so friendly and now i know why exactly you thought you really thought yeah can i tell you this one thing that happened to me because i get approached believe it or not me and drag i get approached oh i'm sure you do you're beautiful i get approached by local local government officials um they one guy came up to me he came up to me I was outside a bar that's closed now in Milwaukee called Hybrid. Milwaukee has all disgusting name bars. Fluid, Dicks, Tits. We just have disgusting names for bars. They sound like diseases.

Yeah. And then the lesbian bar is called Walker's Pint. You know, like, of course. I love it. Milwaukee's gay bars are fabulous. Walker's Pint. See you at the pint. Oh my God, I love that. And this guy came up to me. He's like, you need a ride? And I was like, no.

By the way, I did need a ride. I had no way home. It was 2am. But I was not able to get in someone's car. It's called being trafficked. Murdered. Wait, isn't this the home of Jeffrey Dahmer? Yeah. Girl. Was this pre-Jeffrey or post-Jeffrey? That's your era. That's your age group, honey. You tell us. That's not my age group.

I came way before that. I was like, Jesus. How old do you think I am? I came way before that. I was like, Jesus. How old do you think I am that I was going to get picked up by Jeffrey Dahmer? Well, when did that happen? Not in 2007, Kelly. No? When was it? Kelly, I'm 34 years old. You

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Ready for you. But this guy, guy we're back and this guy comes up to me he goes you want to suck the stick you want to suck the stick you want to come to this alley and suck the stick and i kind of did want to suck his dick but i wasn't going to be reduced to kneeling in an alley well in drag sucking like why then i become my mother no no no i just i just thought like i deserve at least a bath mat My knees deserve something I mean, you could probably find a cardboard box to put your knees on, honey You gotta make do That's resourceful I mean, that's, you know, that's a hot scene

I don't know why you would reject that Because of trash cans and rats, Kelly Honey, I'm a gutter slut Did you know I met Courtney Levin, a gutter? Believe it I did 100% believe it Totally You're talking about Drag Race, right? What in a gutter? Believe it. I did. 100% believe it. Totally.

You're talking about Drag Race, right? What? The gutter of Drag Race. Well, the gutter of Drag Race. No, she was laying in the ditch like in front of El Rey Theater on Wilshire Boulevard and we had just performed there. That's when we used to perform club makeup.

And I walked out there and I was waiting for a cab. This was before Ubers. And I looked down and I said, Courtney? And she's like, yeah. And oh my god we have the same birthday and she's like what and i was like we have the same birthday and she's all like fuck you i don't care and i was like no it's me you and oj have the same birthday and he died today he died today c. Caitlyn Jenner tweeted, fuck OJ. Shut up. She did.

It's the only good thing she's tweeted. She tweeted, fuck OJ. And I was like, okay. Girl, what happened to that Republican vehicular manslaughterer? You know what's sad, Kelly? She has literally just lost it. Do you recall that sliver of time when she came out? The reality show?

No, when she came out. Oh, yeah. And we as a community were like, oh my God, this Olympian, this athlete who all of our parents respect and know about. It was almost like sometimes it takes someone your parents and stuff already love as a straight person. When they come out, it makes it okay. Oh, totally. Because when you're their kid, it's too much. Well, that's when my mom finally learned what the word transgender was.

Because when Caitlyn came out, she called me up and she said, Oh, did you watch the Caitlyn Jenner interview with the Diane Sawyer? She said, Bruce, the Bruce Jenner interview with the Diane Sawyers. And I said, yes. And she said, isn't it wonderful that she's come out as transient? And I said, mom, transients don't have homes. Right. And she said, well, I'm sure a lot of them don't. They probably get kicked out of their homes for being a transient. And I'm like, oh my God.

And by the way. We took that time to educate Mom on what these terms were. How old is she? Well, she's dead now, but she was. That's pretty old. She's really old now. What age was she then? Probably 75.

And she's a Southern woman? Mm-hmm. That's progressive for a 75-year-old Southern woman. Listen, I got her to vote for Hillary. So, you know, you have to pick and choose your battles. There's the same woman that thought Slumdog Millionaire was about Mexicans. So, you know, you kind of pick and choose your battles. I've not seen that film.

I don't think I have either, but I know it's not about Mexicans. I've been watching a lot. I don't know what it's about, but I don't think it's about Mexicans. I know from The Office that it's about a man who's on a game show who like the trials and tribulations of his life have accidentally prepared him for the answer to all these questions. What? That's what I think it's about, right? Is that what Slumdog Millionaire is about? Yeah, the name is a little confusing.

But it's one of those movies that now I can only hear it in the Oscars voiceover. Like, Slumdog Millionaire. Yes. Babel. Crash. Some movies I can only hear that female British voice. Babel is so depressing. Not seen it.

Oh my God, it's so good. But it's so depressing. If you really want to lose some weight watch babble the depression will kick in it is so good though kate blanchett oh i don't i can't do a remarkable nothing i like it sometimes like when i smoke an indica yeah take me there i watched the godfather the other day for the first time kelly i've never seen any of those james loves them i watched it with david and his dad really i was very like all right straight guys love this movie it's like

reservoir dogs like straight guys love a certain movie little scarface and whatever so i was expecting to be like whatever the straight people movie kelly the godfather worked me out the acting the music the performances it was not aggro heteroero. I thought it was going to be very like. So you loved it? It was amazing. Well, Al Pacino. Diane Keaton is in it. She's like in her 20s.

Is she wearing hats? Yes. Love. Yes. She's always worn hats. She loves a hat. I can relate. She loves a hat.

She was so, the movie was so good. But David's got me watching all these old movies. Do you like a lot of old movies? I do. He had me watching Place in old movies you like a lot of old movies i do he had me watching uh place in the sun elizabeth taylor oh yeah i'd never seen an old school elizabeth taylor movie the beauty is transfixing girl she is the waist insane the waist the eyes the hair the hair the brows what is the one where the hotel room what is that called betterfield eight is that the name of it or is it something else seven what i'm kidding she plays a oh you gotta

see this one i gotta look up the name of it oh shit anyway backdoor sluts nine i think that's it yeah i think that's it starring huh and we yeah where she's in the hotel room and oh my god it's so good i gotta watch and then of course that cat on a hot tin roof i mean just she's in the hotel room And she Oh my god it's so good I gotta watch that And then of course That cat on a hot tin roof I mean just She's so amazing She is

And then David had me watching I just saw Sunset Boulevard For the first time Oh my god so good I feel like As a drag queen I was very overdue To see that movie

Oh yeah I was like Every five minutes I was like Well that's a drag reference Oh yeah That's a drag reference Oh totally

That movie was crazy The fact that it starts with that guy dead. Yeah. And I'm like, whoa. I'm completely becoming her. Like, it's happening in real time. Well, I would say that you're doing that, but you're also kind of becoming a stagecoach,

Melissa Etheridge ticket holding, you know. Because you guys know that. I feel like people always talk about how Trixie, Trixie, you're so accidentally lesbian because of the things I like. Kelly is. I am living a lesbian lifestyle. Kelly is down at the Lilith Fair. Girl.

Like for real. For real, for real. And I have to tell you, that is literally like my favorite kind of, we've had this conversation. I mean, that's what like where my heart lies with music.

I mean, Jewel, Ani DiFranco. Yeah. You know, the whole Lilith Fair fantasy, honey. I'm in for it. That Jewel album, Pieces of You. Oh my God, Pieces of You, yes.

I like was 13, 14, started playing guitar, listened to that record. That record, I learned this on Wikipedia, is one of the most successful acoustic albums of all time because most of those are live recordings of her just playing at a bar. Yeah. And that's an album that was on the charts and they're not even very professionally done.

But she's so good. She's so good. The singing, the lyrics. It's amazing. She's amazing. It's amazing. Her and I have kind of become like BFFs on Instagram. Really?

Yeah, we'll totally like DM each other and stuff. Again, lesbian. Love. Absolutely. Oh, yeah. Does James know that when you do leave him, it will be for a woman? Oh, completely. He's totally aware

Yeah Like tonight I'm going to see Bitch At Hotel Cafe Uh huh If you don't know her She was on Ani DeFrinker's record label Formerly of Bitch and Animal Amazing

Amazing Amazing lesbian artist Oh yeah James is fully aware That I'll go full lesbian At some point in my life So Right

I hope he's prepared for it We've already got the clothes I mean you know I already have the look down Absolutely Now i just got to learn how to you know dive into the lady pond now you were just saying do you have any tips that you were just on tour with your solo material i was i can't believe you did a hundred cities with katya and i and then jumped on your own tour like a crazy person well i know I know. Isn't that crazy? Yes.

And it was the people that obsessed idea. And I'm like, you all have already driven me crazy. Now I'm going to go even more crazy. What type of venues did you do? I did, um, like,

well, what was like, what was the venue in New York that I did? What's that place called? The Gramercy. Oh, sure. Yeah.

So I did like the Gramercy. So there were like smaller theaters, you know, um, it's definitely a theater show. It's a two act play called an evening without Kelly Mantle because I'm playing all of, uh, I'm playing everyone but me, which is like my favorite thing to do in the world. I hate being myself. Um, so yeah. Who wouldn't? Well, seriously, it's a lot of work. Is it? I'm not like being funny. I barely know how to play Trixie. Is it hard to like backstage quick change and switch characters?

Like. I love it. You do? I live for it. Yeah. What do you think gets you there? Is it the look? Do you look in the mirror and see the other person?

Being completely schizophrenic, psychotic person to begin with. So yeah. Katya should be great at it. Well, Katya should be great at it. Well, Katya would be amazing at it. Have you ever seen her solo shows? Yeah. Well, I saw the video of it. I didn't see it in person.

Unhinged. Completely unhinged. I mean, I went to see... I mean, she becomes that one. What's that one? What's the character? Teresa? Trish.

Yes. She becomes Trish. Teresa. Teresa. She's been playing Teresa Caputo for years. She has been. You're a little bit witchy. I am a little bit witchy.

Can I tell you, ever since tour ended, I've totally been getting in contact with like the psychic self. I think everybody, honestly, don't laugh at me, I think everybody has a little bit of the shining. I mean, yes, I'm totally serious. Like I've been doing this thing where I've been practicing this thing where I like read people's minds. So do you want me to try it on you? Yes. Okay. I'm going to totally read your mind. All right. But it takes like, you have to go through a few little steps. So first of all, think of a number between one and 10. Got it.

Okay. Now you're going to take that number and you're going to multiply it by nine. Can you do this? Yes, Kelly. Come on, you're a business lady. I know you're good with numbers. Okay, so now do you have a two-digit number? Yeah. Totally already reading your mind.

So take those two digits and add them together. Uh-huh. And then subtract by five. Um, so take those two digits and add them together. Uh. And then subtract by five. Mm-hmm. And now you're going to take that number and think of the letter of the alphabet that it connects with. So like A is one, B is two. Okay. And now you're going to think of a country that starts with that letter.

Are you fucking with me, Kelly? No, I'm serious. I can't think of countries. I can barely think of the math part. Oh, my God. Come on, you've been to every country in the world. I got it. Okay.

And then you're going to think of the last letter of that country and think of an animal that starts with that letter. Okay, got it. And then you're going to think of the last letter of that animal and think of a color that starts with that letter. Okay, got it. going to think of the last letter of that animal and think of a color that starts with that letter okay got it are you thinking about an orange kangaroo in denmark oh why did it work i'm telling you i can read minds no you can't yes i can no you fucking can't you guys did you all just witness this kelly mantle in at this time of grievance when i can totally read minds you're gonna come in here and do black magic witchcraft you and the other lesbians got together stood in a pentagram on miss trixie honey you are so wild um that's what you were thinking about though right yes but how no i

don't tell my secrets i don't like it you guys i don't like to be lied to and flopped and fruited with on your own podcast um we have to fast forward to um you and i went on tour last year all year yeah all year was it like a year and a half, wasn't it? Yes. Was it difficult to like completely leave? You like abandoned, you empty nested James. Completely. You left your life for a year. I did. And I don't mean to say this in a certain way,

but I think Katya and I, we don't have, we're not as used to being home so much. Was it hard for you to suddenly be on the road all the time? You know what? I didn't know how I was going to like it because I'm a complete homebody. I'm a loner. i'm a germaphobe i was like how am i gonna like do this like be around people every single day on a bus in hotels and theaters i fucking loved it that's great i lived for it i mean first of all probably because you know you know had i done

this in like you know the independent band way and we've been like stuck in a van or something it would have probably been i mean you all took such good care of us you know and obsessed took such great care of us well that's katya's doing if it was up to me we'd be at the best western sharing a room you know katya katya was ready for the tour to end every single day katya would be like she's katya's the reason we met like four seasons katya's the reason we got good food It was my tour For Solid Pink Disco I had to tell Brandon the other day

We're going back on my tour So get ready to sleep outside bitch Because we're saving money But Katya taught me the value of spending On taking care of everyone It was amazing I absolutely loved it I mean James and I He's a filmmaker now.

He's out of the Marine Corps and he's doing, like, lots of films and stuff. So we're kind of already prepared that we're going to have to take time away from each other. But that came out of nowhere. And, you know, everyone already knows the story. When Katya called me, she failed to mention it was a year and a half tour. I thought it was going to be just like a little YouTube shoot. The way I'm not surprised. The way she got you to say yes and said,

by the way, it's for a year. Well, Tim told me. Yeah. I was like, oh, I loved it though. Good. You were amazing.

Oh my God, it was so much fun. The audience turned up for you every night. You walked on stage and they would scream as loud as they screamed for us like every time.

Girl, that character is just so good and so fun yeah if people didn't get to see tricks and caught you alive you played sandy which we sandy honey we wrote ageless genderless we wrote it kind of pretty much me no we know you're not ageless we know you're genderless we We basically wrote it to be, we didn't know who would say yes.

So the only character trait was, I think I told you, your job is to sell Trixie and Katya like it's the last car left on the lot. The idea was that our management does not like us and does not respect us. And that's really all you had to play with. Totally. So how did you feel in the rest?

Because you made her kind of a, she's kind of a grifter she's such a grifter i mean when i read the script i was immediately like things will just come to me immediately when i read something especially if it's really good writing and i thought this was like really good writing it was so cool and immediately i was like the prototype is like cindy lorpa um a little bit of fran Drescher. She's very East Coast. She's probably like owned an insurance company. She's been an insurance broker, a nail salon technician, a hairdresser.

She's done everything. She has a certificate like on her wall, all the certificates. And chain smoker. And the neck brace. The neck brace. I mean, yeah. I mean, so it just Immediately she's a grifter

You know I feel like the neck brace As a I don't know Are you a prop person Cause to me Completely To me a piece like that

Gives me so much to go with Yes Exactly I love holding things That's why I loved She always had her cigarette You know I always like holding things

Yes I always wished we would've done a night Where we switched characters. I know. We should have. We'll do it again. We'll make Katya miserable. As soon as she gets out, we'll say, hey, we're doing this again.

We're switching characters. She'll go back in. She'll be like, I'm going back to rehab. Thank you. Bye. She is so funny because the other day on set, I wore the costume from the finale. And she saw me and she was like, PTSD. PTSD entirely.

So you, I have to say, I was Wikipedia-ing you before this and I knew a lot of your credits. You must be honestly one of the most decorated actresses we know. You've been in a million things. A million. You've guest starred in a million things. I'm so exhausted.

Have you done Law & Order? No, I never did Law & Order. That's crazy. I know, isn't that funny? All the actors have done that. I know, everyone's done it. I think even Willem played a dead body in Law & Order, if I remember correctly.

I never got called in for Law & Order for some reason. You know, I just feel like, not to profile, if you are an actress and that show is so much about sex crimes, I'm like, we should know more people in our industry who've at least had a walk-on role. Katya, now we're talking about how it's always like

they go to a strip club and it's like, we're looking for Jennifer. I know. Jennifer, you mean Starlight? Like they always have like a strip name? You know, it's a problem. It was a problem. I think it's now people have finally graduated from it and stopped doing it so much

and stopped writing those characters, you know. And I mean, I look back on a lot of those roles and I go, I don't know, you know. I mean, sure, I should probably get a lot of shit for playing some of them. But at the same time, you know, there really is a reality. There was a reality to that at that time.

Totally. You know what I mean? I mean, I hung out with a lot of working girls. Oh, yes. So I would always go in with the intention of trying to sit down with the producers and the writers and say, let's handle this dialogue a little differently. Let's go this direction, give her a heart of gold, make her more three-dimensional. And, you know, my very first one. Totally. Totally. So my very first one was on NYPD Blue. And I, you know, my very first one. Totally. Wow. Totally.

So my very first one was on NYPD Blue. And I, you know, worked with Stephen Bochco, even called me back for a following season. And I got to sit down with him, the creator of the show, and work with them on this role and make it better. Wow. Sometimes not so lucky. They'd say, shut the fuck up and say your lines. You know, who are you?

Yeah. Coming in here with dialogue suggestions. But I would always try to you know turn it to our benefit yeah you know what i mean but at the time that was the only type of roles that were really available to us you know when i mean that's the reality is of course we should all reflect on how far how much we still have to accomplish. But when I started doing drag, the only trans women I knew worked with me at the makeup counter were drag queens

or sex workers. Totally. And so in media, when they're portrayed that way, that wasn't wild. That did reflect real life in a lot of ways. Yeah, exactly. It's crazy. I mean, you know, and I don't understand too

because my whole thing is like with Sandy and with Sheila on the Browns, I mean, I just It's crazy. I mean, you know, and I don't understand too, because my whole thing is like with Sandy and with Sheila on the Browns, I mean, I just love playing women just, you know, and I think that's the direction, you know, that needs to be available to trans people that we're just playing, you know, I want to see Alexander Billings playing someone's wife and mother.

I mean, there's no reason, you know, they always ask, you know, well, what do you think of, you know, cis people playing trans roles or straight people playing gay roles? And I'm like, that's all fine and well as long as we get to start playing their roles as well. You know what I mean?

Oh, that's a really, I think. That's a really. Because I love playing Sheila. I love playing Sinead. They're not drag queens. They're not trans. They're just cis women. Just girls.

Yeah. Yeah. Completely. I love playing Sinead. They're not drag queens. They're not trans. They're just cis women. Just girls. Yeah. Yeah. Completely. I love when women are in things and like, I don't know, I think of when I saw Promising Young Woman and Laverne has a very small role in that. Not small, but it's not like a starring role. And her gender

or transness or like a conversation of that character can just be a woman without, if there's a trans woman in it, it doesn't have to be some kind of plot point that they're trans. Exactly. Because trans people are just in the world. Yes, exactly. They do work at coffee shops and shit. Oh my God.

Let me go play an attorney. And my gender and sexual preference is never brought up. Exactly. Maybe one episode where it's talked about, but the rest of the time it's about the storyline And I'm just an attorney They're working Oh my god did you see the video of the attorney The defense attorney Wearing the breastplate

And she shows up to court in the breastplate And girl she is painted house down Oh honey No Kelly I'm living for her What kind of divorce court are you watching Girl living for her I love court shows I'm obsessed with her. What kind of like divorce court are you watching? Girl, living for her. I love court shows.

Do you? I'm obsessed with the show called Support Court. What's that? Support Court is a show where people come in because they haven't been paying child support. And they get read within an inch of their life by this judge. She goes, welcome to Support Court. Tell me what's going on.

And I swear to God, Kelly, classic tale. Woman drops off children at mom's house or mother-in-law's house or sister's house and just doesn't come back what and they're like why don't you put they're like well i mean i live in miami and i do hair this example and they're like well how much you make a year and she's like ninety thousand dollars and they're like and you're not sending any money to your mother who takes care of your children? She's like, no. And I'm like, why? I get really incensed watching these parents not, it's one thing to maybe say, I don't know,

mom, can you take care of my kids? And then the person will be like, well, I drop off food. And this is on television? I watch it on TikTok. And they'll be like, you drop off McDonald's once a month. That is not bringing food for your children. Can you imagine when the children get older and see the videos? They're going to say, you didn't care about me.

No kidding. Oh my God. I never met my real dad when I was younger. And now that I'm older, I think, I don't wish I had a dad in my life, but I'm like, God, my mom on one income. I know she could have used a little extra money. I wish he would have paid her some money. You just wanted some McDonald's.

Dude, I want new shoes. Do you know what it was? I know how horrible it was to have a brother five years older than me because it didn't just mean I got hand-me-downs. I got a stylist from five years ago. Girl, did you have to take milk cartons to the bottom of your soles of your shoes because you'd only get one pair a year? Kelly, do you think that I lived in the Depression era? In the summertime, we didn't have shoes to wear. But in the wintertime, we'd all get a brand new pair.

You love Loretta, too. We love Loretta. Love. Love that you love Loretta. Loretta's like everything. Of course, I love Dolly. Me, too. But for me, the songs, it was Loretta. Yeah. It was Loretta. People are always, I love Dolly. Me too. But for me, the songs, it was Loretta.

Yeah. It was Loretta. I love Dolly, of course. Dolly, I know you watch this. Hi, Dolly. I do love Dolly. And people assume she's my fave because of the blonde and the rhinestones. But I'm a hardcore Loretta fan. Hey, Loretta. And I'm a hard, hardcore June Carter fan. Oh, fuck yes. Hardcore. One of my claims to fame is if you

go on Auto Harp on Wikipedia, it's the two people pictured are me and Duke Carter Cash. Shut the fuck up. Yeah, I took my hair behind my ears. I love that.

What did you think of the movie? Did you love Reese? Oh, are you talking about Walk the Line? Oh, it's a beautiful movie. Yeah. You know what scene

I love with Reese? She's shopping for fishing rods and that woman goes by and goes, divorce is an abomination. Because she had just got a divorce If you were in country music in the 60s

And you had a divorce Especially if you're the woman D-I-V-O-R-C It's a great movie She's great, Joaquin is great in it Sissy Spacek and Cole Miner's daughter Loretta Lynn I mean I love everything Sissy Spacek does Do you like Carrie?

I love Carrie And I love Three Women withissy Space, it does. Yeah. Do you like Carrie? I love Carrie. And I love Three Women with Shelley Duvall and Robert Altman film. If y'all have never seen that and you are of age and you can smoke weed, smoke some weed and watch Three Women. It is so good. I always thought Carrie would be great played by a trans girl. That would be amazing. The level of outsider.

The level of weirdness. I would love to see, what's her name from Euphoria? Sure. I would love, what is her name? Scooter McGee. I don't know.

Scooter McGee. Who is it? No, Hunter. Hunter. Thank you, Hunter. She would make a great character. She would make a great character.

Not to make everything gay, because I love to make everything gay, but I was like, that level of isolation, a little being ridiculed. Oh, yeah, that's a whole other level to the story. Yeah, and maybe like the scene with getting your period and her screaming in the shower.

That level of body humiliation could happen for a trans person. Totally. I would love to see Carrie with a trans person. I would love that. Maybe we could... Let's do it. De-age a little bit in the CGI. I think so.

You're a young, beautiful woman. Do you think you have the range to play a teen? Sure. I still think I'm one. I believe it. I totally still think I'm one. You have that sex drive. Completely.

I'm at the Taylor Swift honey concert with my little friendship bracelets on just screaming with the girls, my little cut off Daisy Dukes. Did you always wear long hair and makeup in the girl stuff? You did? Always.

Always. Always. I started wearing makeup in like sixth grade, seventh grade. Six months old. Small town in Oklahoma, six months old. I'm still no good at it. We won't get started on what Trixie thinks.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Are you kidding? This is what I've been waiting for. We need to do a... Shut up. She is so awful. Me and Vice need to get together and do a takedown piece about your makeup bag. Because it is broken brushes, 60-year-old sponges, shattered eyeshadows.

You use products that I haven't seen people use in 10 years. You use that Smashbox Halo powder, the crushing one that you twist. What's that? Do you twist it and the powder crushes? Shut up, I do. You see what I mean, people? I don't even know what I use.

And also what I love about you is- I don't know any of the brand names at all. That's very people shopping for makeup. They're like, do you have more of this? I'm like, what is this? A pencil this big? I'm like, what is this? I'm so that girl.

I take pictures of it on my phone and then I'll just go into Sephora and say, do you have this? Yeah. Are you tech savvy? You run your own socials, right? I do. Yeah. It shows. Because I've seen you kind of show up.

You do kind of have like, you have like. Shut up. You have like okay boomer like skills. No, I do not. Are you active on Facebook? Yes. Oh my God. Shut up.

We were on January 6th. Kelly, this hat. I don't know. You know what? Leave me alone. I think I do good on my socials. We,

we do have an incompatibility, which is Katya and I like to make the thing. Come rescue me. Katya and I like to make the theater an icebox. And poor Kelly Mantle, you guys, is backstage in her dressing room with a space heater and a winter coat. I want you all to be forced to go on tour with Madonna because she doesn't allow air conditioning. And you all aren't going to say nothing to Madonna. Actually, Katya probably would. She'd leave. She, Katya probably would. She'd go home.

She'd leave. She does not allow air conditioning. I'm doing her show Sunday. That guest thing, you know, with the drag queens wave. You are? Yes. Oh my God. Thank you for warning me.

Because I might walk on stage and do a U-turn and just walk out. Like, bye M. Bye Lady M. Bye. Yeah. I think. I've never been so cold in all my life you all literally i have no remember blood cells left if that's the thing is that a thing no okay that's not the only cells you don't have left um do you remember when we were in hamburg germany and we

were outdoors girl i thought i was going to die November in Germany I thought you all were going to find me in my dressing room In like a fetal position just frozen And you were going to like crick my bones And they would just crack It was the coldest I've ever been in my life Even I was cold I was ready to cut Brandon open and climb inside like Star Wars

Like I was It was like a carnival circus Ring outside It was a circus tent It was a circus tent. It was a circus tent outside. We get what's inferred there. That we're a circus. Totally.

Thank you. I mean, we could not have fit the venue more perfectly, especially with these two. Yeah, they put up the circus tent. I said, that's Kelly's makeup. All right, that's how she does it. I think my makeup froze to my face that night. I think it would not come off with the makeup wipes. That's of nice though frozen to my face well yeah i mean well i remember the

dancers had like blue lips and i was like you're all gonna die and katya and i finished the show and you know we do the bows and for the the only show i've ever done with her i put my arms around her and she was sweatless and she said roll the music back let's do it again and i was like i would do the show again right now. That's how happy I was. I love it. I was freezing though. It was cold. The worst part about cold backstage,

because I like warm backstage, cold on stage, which I know is impossible, whatever. The worst part is when you have to put on your body and it's cold and you're naked. Naked and your feet are touching the floor. I always put a towel down. Oh my God, it was so cold. Well, you used to make fun of me because I would literally sit there and have like two space heaters up in my face doing in the face. You guys space here in the face. I couldn't help it. I was

so cold. So cold. Can I go back to self tapes? Yeah. What do you not like about it? I guess you don't like that. You miss the people in the room. I miss the connection. That's the main thing. And then, you know, it's, there's a thing too, that when you, when you go in and you, you read, you usually just do it once, twice, if you're lucky and that's your go. And that's your take. When I do a self tape, I'm sitting there going, Oh, I can do it better. Let me do it again. I'll end up doing it 15 times. And you know you think the 15th time is the best and now you're not fresh anymore and so i overdo it and if i could just i know i'm telling you literally do not do it more than this is like my thing do not do it more than five times times i know and then i want to put a filter on it and also usually i turn the camera on and do it a

few times without recording just to like see myself on the monitor. Well, this is the best advice I ever got. It was from Trixie Mattel and she said, don't be precious about any of your shit. Don't be precious about it. Just do it and get it out there. And I was like, that is such good advice. I don't get bogged down by quality. I know. You know,

being funny, being pretty. Isn't that great? And it works for you. It works for me. Well, I hate in-person callbacks Because I always call you back in drag And I'm always going in somewhere Where someone hits record I know, I mean the drive And getting there

And the parking And the whole thing I know that's inconvenient But I just, I don't know I love the connection in the room I really do I'm old school I go in there

And they push record just like this And I'm like, alright And they're like, go And I'm like, what's the tea, mama boots? because it's always written like for a drag queen it's like is your boots tea or is it sickening kiki it's like the stupidest little i know monologue and it's always talking to a police officer or something and it's like a murder at a drag club and you're like oh honey miss bunion she jumped, she jumped sip as soon as the tea got boots, she bolted. And you're like, what?

Girl, let me tell you, my tuck was so hard today. Miss Chamomile told me that it only takes her two seconds. They always come up with the worst names. It's always like Miss Anita Cocktail. It's so bad, girl. It's horrible. I won't even go in for those anymore. I told my agent, I said, don't even send me in for those anymore.

I won't do it. Well, good, because the rest of us who look like drag queens and can't act, we need those roles. You need those roles. Yes. You've got a major in acting, right? Theater? No.

I wanted to improve, but I wasn't. What was your best role that you played? I want to imagine Trixie in like... Being Alive! That Liza clip where she's like, being alive. I played an old man in No No Nanette. It's a tap musical from the 30s. Okay.

I played the guy who sings, I want to be happy, but I... And I liked playing an old person. It was kind of like drag. Once I looked in the mirror and I had the white hair and everything, I was like, old. Suddenly I was like hunched over and walking like an old person. Do you tap?

Yeah. Oh my God, we should totally tap. Totally tapping with telly and... With telly mantles. Telly mantle. Do you ever wish you had a drag name? You know, I had one for a minute back in the day when I did rock and roll and stuff.

I was Brandy Warhol. Ooh, I had one for a minute back in the day when I did rock and roll and stuff. I was Brandy Warhol. Ooh, I like that. Yeah, I was Brandy Warhol. If you go into Outfitters Wigs, I'm on the cover of a magazine called Girl Top Magazine. It was for the duels, you know. And it has a picture of me and it says Brandy Warhol on the cover because that's when I was going by Brandy. But I dropped it after like a year. That is such a hooker name.

Isn't it? You in the clubs with a smoky eye like what's your name brandy warhol brandy warhol you know what i want to change my name to now what indy darling oh i love that indy darling indy darling i feel like you're gonna move to pioneer town totally so like sundance indy darling in your town she sells town. Totally. Like Sundance. Indie Darling. The Toasted Pioneer Town. She sells suede coin purses by the road. Yes. And she'll do monologues if you cash app her.

She'll do a monologue for you if you cash app her. And she'll even play a song on her guitar that's missing two strings. Yeah. Can I ask you about your pre-marital sex life? Because you were so beautiful. You were so beautiful? No, I meant you about your pre-marital sex life? Mm-hmm. Because you were so beautiful. You are so beautiful.

You were so beautiful. No, I meant you are. Oh, my God. I said you are so beautiful. This happened to me yesterday. I told someone they have great hair and they heard gray hair and they just stared at me. And I said, great hair. You are so beautiful.

I imagine when you were a bar-going single gal, people sprinted at you full speed, ripping their clothes off, screaming. Well, I'll have you know, they still do. But I mean, now that you're a married woman. There was a valet at the hotel in Oklahoma City the other day. They hit me up on DMs and the Instagrams. I'm not surprised. I'm like, oh. Still got it.

Still got it. Yeah. No. Because you can't hear it. But yeah, no, I mean, you know, that's the thing is I think there was like a, I think there was some like individual conquest with me because growing up in this really small farming town, all of my best girlfriends had the hottest boys. And I was like, I want one of those boys. Yeah. And I couldn't get them then and then when i you know got older and realized who i was and you know the power yeah i'm like oh now i can get them here we go that's

what i mean you have this magnetism it's it's not sex it's not like porny but you have this magnetism that i'm assuming men just respond to. I love it. Because you have these big brown eyes and these soft lips and you're funny and sweet and smart to talk to. I bet you are like the dream woman that guys would like wish they could walk into a bar and sit next to you and talk to. Well, I tell you, I've had my fair share of boys in this world, but none can top James. He is fucking so magical and so amazing. I hit the jackpot. You really did.

It took me a long time to get here, but I hit the jackpot with that one because of all the boys I've been with in my lifetime. He is top notch. And you kissed a lot of frogs. Girl, I kissed a lot of boys in my lifetime, honey. I said frogs. I tried to make it more elegant.

Well, you know. You said I sucked a lot of boys in my lifetime, honey. I said frogs. I tried to make it more elegant. Well, you know. You said I sucked a lot of frogs. Some of them will rib it up the wrong creek, you know. When did you know, like when you met James in the wild, were you instantly like, oh. Yeah. Wow. Completely.

Our first date was his Marine ball and he was stationed in Albany, Georgia. Oh my God. I know. And it was during the time that Trump had just put the trans ban on the military. So, it was even more, you know, it was at a time when, you know, a lot of the Marines were asking like, Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian and people like that to the Marine Ball. And so, he had hit me up online

and invited me as his date. And I thought, now's more time important to show up than ever you know like cinderella show up and show out yeah oh girl i felt like jackie oh really i was gonna say did you feel like a a mix between like a politician or a celebrity or like a a high level courtesan i totally felt a little bit of both of those that was a little well yeah was it yeah a cortisone a cortisone did you get a cortisone shot um i said a politician a celebrity and a call like a all the above i was living my jackie go fantasy i really was it was very that what did you wear i wore this long black evening gown and this gorgeous blonde hair.

Yeah. I wore gorgeous blonde hair. It was like a dark blonde. It was like Mariah Carey blonde. Oh, kind of the ends. Yeah. Kind of like a golden dark blonde. Wow.

And honestly, everyone there could not have been cooler. They were so accepting, so cool. And we had a great, I mean, it was just like a magical date night it was beautiful and it was our first date i know was he in his uniform yeah he was in his do you buy into that shit oh completely i do too i know it's i know it's like i feel like i'm being a traitor to like no who doesn't love a man in uniform a fire fighter outfit a pilot outfit anything like that like i know they're not called outfits they're called uniforms A firefighter outfit, a pilot outfit, anything like that. I know they're not called outfits. They're called uniforms. A firefighter costume. I know, right?

I love your costume. Would a military look like that? Oh, God. It's so hot. Girl, I wouldn't have made it to the dance floor. Girl. But it broke my legs off. It's so hot. Yeah, James is very, very hot. Hi, James. Hi. Has he seen you on shows and stuff? He came to our show. He came to Trixie and Katya Live at San Diego.

Has he seen a lot of your TV stuff in the past, like, 10, 15, 10, 15, 20 years? I love that. He watches it. I can't watch it, but he watches it sometimes. You don't like watching yourself? No, I hate it. I do too. I didn't even watch Trixie and Katya live, the live stream. I actually did watch it. How was it? I think I was live. I think I was live chatting that night. Like they had me live chat the night it was happening. I left it. It was, it turned out great. I mean live chatting that night. Like they had me live chat the night it was happening. Yeah. I left it. It was, it turned out great. I mean,

it was beautiful what John Mark and Jasmine and everyone did with it. I left the behind the scenes stuff. They have it posted on the YouTube now. It's really funny. I would love to see that. I guess I remembered us like my memory of it is on stage looking at you, looking at Katya. And I didn't want the audience perspective to replace my memory of it. Weirdly. I was like protective of it. Yeah. Well, see, I hadn't,

well, I mean, I, I would watch you all on the monitors a lot, but I had never seen it as like an audience member. Yeah. So it's because a lot of your parts and stuff I missed and I was like, oh my God, this is so cool. Because if you're not in it, you're backstage taking a nap. Yeah. Well, I'm backstage, you know, usually she was, you know, partaking in a little beverage or two, you know, a little beverage or two, you know. A little beverage or two. Remember when I quit drinking on tour and you were like, oh God.

Kelly was like, it's bad enough she doesn't drink. My drinking buddy, you totally left Gabriel and I stranded. How dare you? You did something really interesting on tour that I've never seen anyone do. If the bus call was 2 a.m., you would stay in the venue in your dressing room

i know what were you doing in there usually it took me that long to take all my makeup off put on my lotions and potions and pack yeah and then sometimes i would go ahead and just sit there and finish off that bottle of wine i mean i wanted to stay off of the bus as long as possible because as much as i didn't mind it, it certainly wasn't the most comfortable. No. You know, to sit in. So I would take advantage of my dressing room.

But you would come and join me a lot of times in the dressing room afterwards. Your rider was insane. Kelly's rider was like... That was not my rider. I didn't necessarily have a rider. They just asked me what I wanted one day. And I said, oh, I like little turkeys and cheeses and crackers and every night she would have a deli in her room it was like

cheese slices turkey slices and i'd be like bitch are you opening a subway franchise in here i know it's so funny and i never ate any of it you never ate it distributed to the crew on the crew bus like cat and uh jeremy and everyone would take it and stuff Because they'd have the munchies Well tour is sort of like prison where it's like commissary Like when I stopped drinking I kept the wine in the rider Because I'd be like Gabriel you want this bottle of wine Exactly

What are you going to do for me? Exactly Oh no Gabriel appreciated it Oh yes he'll take the wine Because I wouldn't have any left for him No polish it off Kelly the children love you. People love you.

How can they support you on the internet, tickets, whatever? How can they give you money? Y'all have the best fans, by the way. I love your fans. They're your fans. They love you. I love them. I don't know.

You can find me on Instagram at Kelly Mantle, Twitter, the Kelly Mantle. I'm on TikTok now. You are. I totally am on TikTok now. What's your TikTok vibe? Because I've seen a lot of videos of you talking directly to camera.

I don't know. Is it Boomer? No. Okay, Boomer. I don't know what my TikTok is. Can I say I like that you do your own? Because I hate when people... Well, you do your own too, don't you?

Yes. And I don't like when I follow someone and it's very obvious they don't run their own account. I want that person to make the videos, you do your own too, don't you? Yes, and I don't like when I follow someone and it's very obvious they don't run their own account. I want that person to make the videos, you know? Girl, Tammy just texted me three texts and said, I understand

being a woman up late. I think that's where we can end it. Is this Tammy Brown coming out as trans? Girl, is that some DL version of, I'm not trans, I'm up late? Is that some new terminology? I'm up late. I'm in the up late community.

I think we need to investigate. Let's call her. All right. Yeah. Stay tuned next week when we do a deep dive on all. We could honestly do an episode going through and reading text

from Kelly Mantle. Voice notes from Kelly, or voice notes from Tammy Brown. Yes, totally. We should. Tammy Brown will send you a real quick, real quick, unexpected three minute voice note about the whales.

We should also do a live watching of the live stream. The Trixie and Katya live stream. That would be so fun. I would love that. That would be amazing. We could get Katya to do it too. Oh my God, yes. We'll get Katya to do it with us.

Yeah, let's do it. That'd be so fun. All right. Well, thanks y'all. Support Kelly and um i don't know register to vote bye Bye.