The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - Please Meet My Fur Coat, Her Name is Darlene with Darian Darling

Episode Date: April 6, 2021

Today the girls are joined by the most-famous blonde about town, makeup-artist extraordinaire, and legendary painter of beautiful faces, Darian Darling! Come for the juicy behind-the-scenes stories, stay for the self-deprecating jokes about her impossibly fabulous life. Follow Darian: @MoiDarianDarling Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To listen to our podcast on YouTube: http://bit.ly/TBATBYT Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Eligibility and member terms apply. Woo! Hello. Hi there. Good afternoon. Thank you for coming. It's a pleasure to be here. Are you Katya?

Thank you for having me. Yes, I am. Wonderful. And who are you? I'm Trixie Mattel. What are we doing? We're doing the Bald and the Beautiful. It's a podcast.

Yeah! And today we have a guest who oh my god oh my god jesus christ jesus a makeup artist what the fuck a new york nightlife legend a creative um iconoclast a visionary a vision of love um i i mean this in a blonde bombshell yes i mean this in a good way somebody you blonde bombshell. Yes, I mean this in a good way. Somebody you see once and literally never forget. True. The look is striking. The smell will never wash out of your clothes.

We have Darian Darling here today. Hi, Darian. Hi, everybody. So thank you for having me on the show. I'm so excited. I think you're both hysterical. And I can't wait to get into it. We're going to get right into it.

I think it's funny the way you guys try to be beautiful. Oh, my God, no. You're both geniuses. Are you kidding? Please. Thank you. Icons. You just gave a home tour?

Yes. Oh, yeah. So I was fortunate enough to get a little Better Homes and Gardens tour of Darien's Palace. And also, I didn't get to see the Amanda Lepore statue which apparently is outside in the garden area yes I'll take you on a tour for that afterwards

it's like by the fire pit and jacuzzi and pool we had a custom Amanda Lepore statue made by a dear friend of mine that's outstanding and he made me a little mini one that goes in my own kitchen so you're clearly a very poor woman and living in dire straits she's barely getting by

she doesn't have amenities she might not have a home she might not have electricity but she has an amanda lapore statue folks what lipstick are you wearing right now two of them what lipstick are you wearing right now my go--to, Maybelline Romantic. It's that super stay in matte ink. I don't want to embarrass you. I don't want to list your accolades. So let's just start at the top. Maybelline.

List them. She's a makeup artist for Maybelline. Yeah, I work backstage in all their shows and do all their, I design their face chart and do all their face charts for product packaging and during fashion week, whatever they need a face shirt for, I am generally the one to do it. Isn't that crazy? That's insane. How long have you been doing makeup for professionally?

Makeup I've been doing for 21 years. Oh, wow. So since she was one years old. Yeah, since I was one. 21 years. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, it's crazy. I mean, I don't even know how to conceptualize the fact

that when you work for such a global brand like maybelline where everybody from a 13 year old to your grandma wears maybelline yeah your impact darian is huge it's pretty chic like i've seen i've had friends that have been random places in the Midwest at a Walmart. I'm not sure exactly why. Shopping, obviously. But I'm not sure why they were there. But send me photos of the Maybelline aisle. And there's my face charts in the Maybelline aisle.

Like, it's pretty chic. Wow. Like, fabulous. And I used to work for Mac before that many moons ago. And I did all their face charts. Now, when you say doing a face chart, I'm very stupid for Mac before that many moons ago, and I did all their face charts. Now, when you say doing a face chart, I'm very stupid. What does that mean? So it's like a blank template of a face, like a blank coloring book page that you will then

that are primarily used at a makeup counter. So when someone comes and gets their makeup done you can as the makeup artist that's working fill out everything that you used on them where to put it yada yada yada pretty basic but then you can take it and elevate it into like a really beautiful painterly art form which is what i would think i do and so if i'm like i'm starting out my name is leslie and i've just been hired at mac and um i come all in black and i'm very excited and i'm 10 minutes early and i have to do a face chart and and do you am i using the mac brush in the mac makeup on the paper yeah it's all done with makeup um they train you how to do

it i mean obviously i've been drawing and painting since i was like four years old so it's you kind of have a knack for it. People that have, can paint or draw or do something generally pick it up pretty quick. People that are not artistically talented like that struggle with a little bit more, but they train you and do all that. Yeah.

Let me, let me ask you this though, or tell you this, because I also have a painterly background, but I struggle big time with the makeup. Do you think you do? No, no, no,

no, no, no, no. Listen, I'm, my name is Leslie and I struggle. I would draw paint since I was little,

little, little and very well. But when I started to do makeup on the different, cause it was on a face with the, I just, it's, it was, it's not been easy.

I'll just say that. I just wanted to say yeah i mean i feel like once you learn like the different products and like how they mix and blend and like the different ingredients and what happens on the face it kind of comes to you yeah it never came to me it's still coming i guess well you always look amazing though what are you talking about my face though i mean if i had to do somebody else's makeup it's just someone else's face well that's a whole different bag of cats I mean doing makeup on yourself is one thing doing it on someone else's a completely different story who's the last pressure the no no sorry who's the last person

you did the face of um not your who's the last person whose makeup you did uh well I did makeup for a trick season you know I's new eyeshadow palette that was the last job oh my god you sure not to be stupid but i forgot that we just this comes out friday darian did the campaign the whole thing yeah she didn't do mine but she did the other model for daytime realness yeah and she yes fucking snapped darian did three completely different looks on this young person who had never modeled before. Wow. No, and is flawless.

Flawless. Yeah. Well, young person. Yeah, Darian does. If you ever check a Trixie Cosmetics campaign, if it's not my makeup, Darian pretty much did it. Yeah. We're very fortunate to have her. And now with COVID, Darian shows up in the full ET hazmat suit.

Like Naomi Campbell at the airport. It is complete torture. Working as a makeup artist in the pandemic is, I hate it. Because not only do I wear glasses, but then I have the mask. The mask fogs up the glasses. I need the glasses to see,

but then I also have to have the face shield over all of that, which then also fogs up. And you see your face reflected back to you. So it's like you can barely see to do the makeup oh my god it's agony but you know I don't want any I don't want to die and I don't want the client to die so very considerate of you got to do but you know what though dying for the look kind of chic it is that's you're right you're right darian's look if you guys could see darian in real life how would you describe your day-to-day fashion and makeup um day well as of now it's

basically a hot pink lip a little brown smudgy something around the eye mascara lots of blush um that's it no eyebrows i have bangs so i never do anything who cares yeah oh and then my my day look since moving from new york to los angeles you know it's much more of a forced casual kind of lifestyle out here so i fully embraced i'm like how do i do forced casual la like athletic wear but like make it me and fabulous and like barbie and fun. I'm like, how do I do forced casual LA like athletic wear, but like make it me and fabulous and like Barbie and fun. So I'm like 80s track suits. Yes.

Just channel like 1989, like mom and sassy, but like make it Barbie and glamorous. Yeah. Yeah. I dig it. So I hunt on eBay, like a maniac maniac like scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, looking, looking, trying to find just the right one that has the right pop and the right wow because there's a lot of really ugly ones.

How much does a tracksuit like that run you on eBay? 60 bucks. 60 bucks? Oh, that's great. Yeah, and she'll style it with like a pump. I love a tracksuit with a pump. Which is so deranged. A matching pump. It's like a pump. It's like a hot pump. I love a track suit with a pump. Yeah. Which is so deranged. A matching pump.

Athletic wear with a pump. It's amazing. I mean, I also love a heel by a pool. That's just so stupid and ridiculous. Heel by a pool, yeah. Yes, totally. Yeah. Like that buckle up video of Amanda's when she's in the hot tub and she hangs up the

phone and steps out naked wearing just pumps. She's in the tub with pumps on. That's fantastic. Yeah, that's great. When you worked at Mac in New York, you worked at the Pro Store. You must have had the who's who and the celebs of celebs every day in that store. Oh, it was

probably the best place to work. Burnt Reynolds? Burnt Reynolds. No, not Burnt Reynolds. Liza Minnelli. Really? Demi Harry. Was she what you wanted was liza what you wanted it was pretty i met her twice actually once at mac years prior and then once backstage at gaga's um monster ball show and like we got a photo together that was oh my god oh yeah darian used to do lady gaga's makeup excuse me. What now? Who? Hi. Hello.

I never really did her makeup, but I was just kind of like a friend and a muse. She was a friend of the pod. Entourage. Friend of the pod. Darian used to do makeup. Yes. Darian used to do makeup. I mean, I don't want to tell your whole story. Please.

What do you think she's here for? She's done makeup for everyone, for everything. She's being modest. Didn't she just do a Prada campaign last year? i worked on um a gucci campaign i worked on thomas de cliver's makeup campaign which who is the global artist for gucci and i've worked with um yadeem their prior global makeup artist yeah yeah yeah i know him he's one of my best friends we used to be roommates way back in the day in New York. He's the reason why I got the Maybelline gig because he was the global makeup artist for Maybelline.

And he's like, that space chart sucks. We need a new one. So it was like, I know the perfect person brought me in and then brought me into the backstage pro team. And wow. I mean, it's amazing. I've done like makeup artists dream of having the career you've had it's crazy I mean externally I'm sure it probably looks that way of course me in my own head I'm like have I done anything have I done anything am I trash am I a flop

no oh my god no but I've done I've I had a good life. I've lived a charmed life. Do you, so the, I'm curious about like the, I mean, it seems like when you say like, I've done the makeup for a Gucci campaign, that sounds like one of the most glamorous things you can say. Well, I'm on the makeup team. I'm on the makeup team. Okay. So you're on the makeup team, but is the, the day to day, I think about what is the, what is the actual nuts and bolts of the day of the day to day of that? It's like, are you carrying tons of cases?

Are you cleaning all these brushes? Everything you could imagine. Oh my God. Wow. Is it, I've heard someplace that I don't know if it's like a legend or whatever that Pat McGrath travels with like 84 suitcases. Oh yeah.

That's facts. I think like four of them are just books. Okay. What is that? What, what is that? What, what are they filled with reference books

i mean and makeup and you know i mean her makeup is so you know she uses anything and everything so it's glitters it's vinyl it's things you can cut out and you know and a lot of the times you know these clients aren't telling you like what they want before you get there. So you kind of have to just like show up with everything. And of course she's like more old school, like before the internet where you can like Google shit. But a lot of the, a lot of great images aren't available online. They're like in old books that you can't get anymore.

So like carrying around tons of fashion books, art books, like, so you can just pull references and like you have to know references from a book so she says get go to suitcase number 52 get book number eight page 39 and flip it open to chapter four any top fashion makeup artist is like at least traveling with a few books in their kit. Wow. Interesting. That's like standard.

Darian, I've seen your kit in real person. I feel like it's fairly modest considering your status as a very decorated makeup artist. I try to keep it pretty, everything I have is in there that I need to do pretty much anyone. But I don't like to carry a whole bunch of shit. Yeah. I hate to jump around but i just have so many questions darian literally friends with debbie harry really yeah what is she like she is so amazing she's like my new york city fairy godmother she's everything you could want her to be and just like so fabulous i've spent many christmases with her um oh my god

yeah she's fabulous. She gave me the Debbie Harry Barbie for Christmas one year that was signed. That's like getting, she always gives me like blondie merch. Oh my God. Easy to shop for. I love gifting stuff with your own face on it. I think that's genius. Oh yeah, that's chic.

Oh yeah, it's very chic. If she can't get you a track suit, you bought them all. Yeah. Right, exactly. on it i think that's oh yeah that's that's oh yeah it's very she can't get you a track suit you bought them all yeah right exactly i saw her at the live it was like an anniversary for hairspray the movie and there was a panel and she was on it and she wore the fiercest wig and she was so cunt yeah i saw her debbie loves wearing um a wig hat in the rain she'll instead of like a rain hat she'll just wear a wig oh i have a photo of us together i'll send you after this with her at we were i was doing like some hosting some club in um new york and she came and someone snapped a photo of us but it was raining and she's wearing this like soccer mom wig as a

oh so it's not even like a long glam wig it's like a no oh my god it's like the short brown wig that nicole came in with the ice bucket challenge video yeah yeah it's so good it's hysterical i love that she's such a kook that's what i love it's like she's such a kook she still thinks it's like the 70s and she's like she's just like the best kooky lady wow now when you lived in new york how did you become like a – how did you become inseminated? Apparently, that's what I was going to say. How did you become like an overnight sort of like nightlife persona there? Well, I moved there to do makeup.

So I was doing makeup in San Francisco at Nordstrom. Worked for Clinique first and then MAC. Honey, that's a story. I'll get back to that. Clinique and then MAC. We told you not to wear the pink pumps with the tracksuit, Darian. Put on the white lab coat. No, I had to wear the white lab coat with the off-white hosiery

and like black pumps. And let me tell you, as a 19-year-old, that's not what you want to be wearing. Off-white hosiery. Oh, it was just the worst. You had to have your hair pulled back. Kind of chic, though. Ew.

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All like the body painting stuff, the glitters, like the crazy color, um, paint sticks, like all that kind of stuff. Even normal shades of, like there are shades of lipstick and eyeshadow and blush that are only pro store. Different foundation,

like really dark foundation colors. And the pro stores aren't advertised, right? I mean, I remember the first time I went there in New York, it's hard to, it's kind of, uh,

okay. Times are tough. Okay. It's going the way, yeah, it's, it... Oh, okay. Times are tough. Okay. It's going the way... So the press store doesn't exist anymore. But back in the day, that New York location is actually word of mouth hidden. There was no signs or nothing. I remember me...

It was... Yeah, it was on the second floor of an office building. So you didn't know where it was. And this is like, you know, before the internet was really like a thing. So you had to know where it was and this is like you know before the internet was really like a thing so you had to know where it was and um mostly it was just like actors models makeup artists people that shop there and then you'd get some random like mac fans or like whatever they become um so i kind of met everybody through there amanda used to come in all the time and um that was fun so everyone every nightlife person suzanne bars you know like everyone so

one of the chicks that i was working with lady starlight who is amazing when i first met her she looked like peggy moffat like the model from the 60s and then she transformed into ziggy star dust era david bowie she would do these glam rock parties in the lower east side so she was hosting all these and everyone had like a kooky character name there was like lady starlight nana copacabana and hollywood star and breed love and she asked me to host one night and i was like oh god well i don't really have a name like i'm just darian i don't know she's like everyone always told me that i look like candy darling who was one of andy warhol's factory superstars in the 60s who was trans and died tragically from lymphoma that she got from the hormone shady hormone pills that she was taking on the black market but like flawless actress

amazing gorgeous icon trans icon and she's like you're darian Darling. Boom. So I hosted a couple of parties with her. And then she met Lady Gaga way before she was famous, like when she was still like brunette rocker chick. And they started collaborating together. So we were all forming this little scene and it was like Semi Precious Weapons, Justin's old band. And we were doing all these parties. And then Suzanne and kenny started inviting me to host parties and then when gaga exploded it kind of put like a spotlight on our little crowd and so then i was much more in demand in nightlife and i think at one point i was doing like six parties in like five days i would would do like daytime pool, like rooftop thing and then go to another party.

I did a brunch. I did an all you can drink brunch. Nothing is better than getting paid to eat and drink for free. Yeah. The best thing ever. Yeah. I used to love hosting parties because it is a little boring compared to performing, but you do get to pull a look that doesn't have to move or sweat or like you can just put a lot of time into the look.

Yeah. Yeah. And just chill, see and be seen. What were you looking like at that time? I mean, pretty much still blonde and glamorous, but I was doing like a little more like rock and roll kind of thing. Not so much track suits. I go through different phases, like, but always like with a rock and roll kind of like tough girl edge uh i had like crazy hair metal hair at one point like super like vixen do you

remember the band vixen that was like i had that for a while um what's the upkeep on that kind of hairdo how many cans of aquanet i mean i was really for like a music video that i was in but then like kind of lasted for a while. And then I had like a crazy like 80s mullet kind of thing. And then I had always blonde and teased and glamorous and lots of leather, lots of spikes. You know, it was like 2010. So that's kind of what was like in vogue. I did like a whole like Courtney Love, like a grunge thing where I just wore like pink baby doll nighties and flannels and like pearls and fishnets and leather.

And yeah, that was pretty fun. And then I've always been obsessed with pink, of course. But then when the Moschino Barbie collection came out, that was over. How did you afford it? Not to read, but how did you afford it? Not to read, but how could you afford all those pieces? No, this is the thing. So I was making money doing makeup and moonlighted at a strip club

in New York. Darian has like every piece in that collection. What was that like? It's just as nuts as you would think. You're doing makeup? Makeup, yeah. And occasionally she'd crawl up the pole. I you would think you're doing makeup makeup yeah and occasionally she'd crawl up the pole makeup and his stripe cloth thank you i was like you got on the pussy pole she was very thin then she worked as the pole oh my god it when i when i first started working there uh obviously it was coming from a more like fashion editorial background. So I was trying to like really like do these looks that I thought were really fabulous that the girls didn't like.

And then I finally realized you could rub anything on their face. It doesn't matter what you could like rub a diaper on their face. As long as there's black liquid eyeliner and like a big lash, you could do anything you want. They don't care. Wow. That's not, I mean wow that's not i mean that's also how i feel yeah what's the craziest look you did for a stripper this one well at that after a certain point i was just like whatever you want i'm doing i'm

not trying to like be creative it's like what do you want yeah hey so she wanted like red and yellow and like something i did this like cockamamie eye on her that was like, I thought was particularly hideous, like ketchup and mustard, which I mean, I guess in the right context could be cool on the right face. Yeah. This bitch didn't have ketchup and mustard on a dog. It was it was kind of a riot. You know, you know, I really like that when i used to work at the counter i liked when the strippers would come in because they would always come in on mondays with all this money they would buy whatever you put on them and they loved it yeah

yeah yeah it's so when makeup just sold itself it's just sold because they're all so young and a lot of them so beautiful that they really can just wear anything. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. That's like, that's most models is they're all like 15 to like 20 tops. That is wild. So it's like, yeah, you could wear any crazy, kooky, esoteric look, you know, because you're a child.

What about you ever do makeup on an oldie like me? 50, 60, 70? Oh, I've done every age bracket. Yeah. Working in a makeup counter, you know, everyone's coming. So every skin tone, every skin type, every age. That's my nightmare, having to do Clinique makeup on like a 75-year-old woman. Let me tell you this. Working in Clinique, this was before they even allowed brushes.

MAC was the only counter that allowed you to use brushes what oh yeah you were allowed to use brushes you had to use your hands to apply wait wait to apply loose powder you had you had to do something called a ghost which is you take a cotton ball you put it you take a cotton ball, you put it, you take a cotton ball, you put Kleenex tissue over it, turn it into a little ghost, pick up loose powder that you've shaken off onto another little tissue and then apply powder like that. And then everything, everything was like sponge tip applicators. What? Disposable. Wow.

I can't even, I've never heard of this blush too blush with this with the ghost if you can do that you can do anything jesus so you're at the counter literally using your fingertips on people's eyes and shit oh yeah cream yeah oh yeah that's crazy that's the way i work now i, in the pandemic it's harder, but, um, I love, I love using my hands for makeup for like foundation.

And it's better when you get in there and like work it into the skin and warm it up. And, you know, I see Darian do some products too. Yeah. There is a really cool big graphic stuff for us. If you look at the daytime

realness looks they're amazing but i have to say darian the way you do skin is like a mosaic like any part of the person's face that has good skin is basically showing through any part that's problematic disappears so they really look perfect i mean's the whole, that's my philosophy with the makeup. I just want to like make them look the best they possibly can make the skin look as beautiful as it can. So you put coverage where you need it. And if it's good there, then most of what makeup is,

is like looking, you really have to just like use your eyes and look at the face. Yeah. So a lot of, you know, what's happening now, which I love and everyone's so creative on Instagram and YouTube and whatever,

but it's kind of, it's very like by the numbers, like you put this product here, you put this product here, this and this and this. And that's why everyone kind of looks related. Yeah. Also they all get the same surge,

but that's another story. They all get the same snatch. Yeah. Yeah. But the whole point is look at the face, see what that face needs. You know, there is a kind of like a homogenous kind of Instagram beauty look that is that starts to get real tired or has been tired for a while. Well, it's just like we're always on our phones.

So it's like constantly regurgitated over and over and over and over and over again. But I mean, I love how into makeup people are now. I mean, when I was working at the counter, it was like, everyone just wanted like the sex in the city. Look, the JLo glow,

which obviously, you know, as well as I know that JLo has as much makeup on as most drag queens, but that's beside the point. You know, but i mean everyone that would come into the counter especially working at mac would be like i don't make me look like a drag queen don't make me look like a tranny right i can say that word because

which is which is so chic which is so chic when people pull that like a straight mom pulls that out at the counter i don't want to look like yeah i i don't want to look like a tranny drag queen it's like okay denise yeah well you really do also you'd be so lucky you need the heavy lifting bitch i can say that i it's like and i'm standing there like i mean obviously they probably didn't spook me but um i'm like uh hello this is not that's not a nice thing to say yeah yeah you also should now everyone wants to look like a drag queen yeah yeah they want to kim k contour i ruined i ruined the world they want it all well i think that's what's so genius about your makeup is that it's kind of like making fun of like blatantly yeah instagram makeup and kardashian makeup and like but the kardashians look great i mean everyone that's doing their faces are like very skilled,

deft hands. Yeah. But when it trickles down to the masses, that's hard to do. It's hard to do. I looked at them. I saw a clip of an episode of the Keeping Up with the Whatever. And I was like, I didn't even, my brain didn't even get to the point where I was bored because they

weren't doing anything. Because there's so much to look at when they're just standing still. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like her face, Kim's face is so fucking beat up with makeup. And perfected. Perfected. And she's just like this.

I like it. And not doing anything and my brain is like has so much to do with just that and I was like oh that's the makeup artists on that show are I mean incredible yeah I know quite a few people would say all the time

that um it's crazy the relation people have with the amount of makeup they wear and that's changing all the time obviously but like when I sat for Scottes he was putting so much makeup in and i was like are you used to putting this much makeup on somebody he was like this is how much i put on jennifer he's like this is how much tv pain stick yeah tv scott did a full milk of magnesia face and then used basically like that's so school. And then used like thick, dark, dark cream contour to do like graphic lines on my face. And then did foundation over it.

So it's like underpainting the contour. So TV paint stick went on top of it. Wow. And he was like, this is how much makeup I put on Jennifer. He's like, people just don't realize this is how much makeup people have on. Right. Yeah. And it's, I mean, people now I think are more HEP and very savvy and the consumer is like way

more savvy about ingredients, about textures, about products and how they should perform and everything. But you know, 20 something years ago when I was working at a counter, they had nothing about nothing. Darian just had a lot of people. Yeah.

Have you ever had somebody in the chair who wants something and you just have to go listen, Mary, I'm a makeup artist. You don't have the brow or the lid or you don't have the cheek or whatever. Oh God. No. I mean, you try to be more kind to that kind of thing. There was a woman way back in the day when I was working at Mac that, um, didn't have any eyebrows. She'd like tweeze them all out in the seventies and she was like very self-conscious about it. And I taught her how to draw her eyebrows on and it like totally changed her life. She met a man, she got married. Like I did her makeup for her wedding. It was a whole thing. It was really nice. It was really nice. I mean,

eyebrows, I mean, eyebrows can change a person's life. I believe it. They could do it now too. Yeah. Your eyebrows are grown back. No, that's drawn on. It's drawn on.

This one started drawing on her, her brows because they're half gone. And she started filling them in. Yeah. New woman. I've dated 16 men in the last two weeks. I believe it. Full anal penetration.

Yeah. Full anal penetration. Full penetrative Congress. Darian, are we dating? Are you dating? No, I mean, definitely not in the pandemic. I'm too freaked out for that. But, you know, I always have a few toys up my sleeve.

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The fur coat guy. The fur coat guy this is something i never knew existed but i somehow got hit up by this beautiful gorgeous boy built muscular hot blue eyes like blonde like totally hot like 22 but told me that he had a fur coat fetish and i was like what do you mean because i didn't know if it was like are you gonna make me do it you know what i mean yeah like what what does that mean it's like no i just am really turned on by beautiful glamorous women wearing fur coats and i was like dynasty fan it's like my dream because i i mean that was one of my signature winter staples in new york was i wore this like floor-length white vintage fox fur um coat yeah i love it it's like so opulent i named it her

name's darlene she's still here i. Darlene. I always name my jackets. I always name my coats. But yeah, so I was like, what's the fur coat? He's like, I just like to feel the fur on my naked body. I mean, in the grand scheme, that's a pretty tame fetish. No, I just want to like hook up with, you know, a healthy sexual expression with a beautiful fur coat on. A victimless crime. Except the box, of course.

But it's vintage. Yeah. Wow. It's vintage. Yeah, I don't condone new fur, but old fur. If it's vintage, I'd rather wear it and toot around in my glamorous life than have it like rot in the dump, know yeah absolutely respecting the beauty of it's a little it's a touchy touchy subject yeah sure sure sure it's glam now when the when the man i'm not gonna pry into your personal life but did you feel like that bitch though in the coat when he arrives like yes this is me oh yeah i answered the front gate in the coat and he like lost his mind. He was so excited. Nothing on but the fur coat and a heel.

Oh, that's like couldn't even. Yeah. Now, what about the suffocation and the ventilation? You know, he's. Oh, what do you mean? Like, no, I'm not asking if he strangles you. I'm asking, do you get warm two seconds in, though? Warm. That was an issue. That was an issue.

So, but as long, yeah. He's like, can you put the coat back on? It's 90 degrees in Los Angeles. As long as the fur was touching him in some way, he was happy. Oh, that's lovely. Everybody gets what they want. Isn't that wild? That is what they want yeah it's not wild glamorous chic fetish i've never heard that before

i love that but then i only saw him like twice because it was a lot for me that was a lot and i'm like girls get paid a lot of money to do this so like it was fun for like a kiki like i always say i'll try anything twice, but. They opened a fur vault down at the Nordstrom and you never saw them again. Yeah. Can I ask,

we ask all of our guests this, who has really, whose beauty inspires you? Oh my God. You don't have to say us. Yeah. It's understood. It's understood.

I mean, i love all blonde glamour i used to write a blog about blonde glamour when blogging was a thing back in the day so all my top beauty icons marilyn monroe obviously debbie harry madonna courtney love um candy darling barbie those are my top angeline i love obviously i mean those are all my kind of references i'm kind of like a medley of all of that and you so and you're obviously you're a big gem and holograms fan huge i'm one of the most prolific gym fans yeah and i that was when i that was my gay awakening that so i knew that i was obsessed with that show. And when was it, when was it on the air? It was on the air from 1985 to 1988. And it was like one of the top rated cartoon shows.

But they canceled it because the dolls weren't selling because they were bigger than Barbie and couldn't share the clothes. And Mattel did a little shady shade and released Barbie and the rockers before Jim could come out. Yeah, I do know that story. Jem was coming and they're like, hell no. So that's sadly what happened. I love Mattel on They Haven't

Sued Me Yet, thank you. But they tell that story like it's a hero. Like they tell that story like they tell that story like we beat them and we prevailed. And it's like, that story like they tell that story like we beat them and we prevailed and it's like that's like no Jem was so amazing Hasbro spent so much money on Jem

it was such an amazing concept and property and the songs were great every doll came with a cassette tape from shows from the song all the fashions were named after songs from the show like the stage and the um carrie case turned into like a working uh cassette player that could play the tapes and then her

backstage dressing room play set was a speaker that you could plug into the stage and amplify the sound the car was like an amfm radio that you plug into the speaker too. I mean, it was like all really thought out. And this is some good gem trivia. If you factor in how many gem dolls sold with, because they all came with two original songs and they all had the gem theme song. So the gem theme song, if you were going to factor it into billboard chart territory, gem would be a triple platinum selling musical artist.

Wow. That is so interesting. Yeah. But, and the show was like a huge hit. Like the ratings were off the charts, but the whole point of the show was to promote the dolls. So if the dolls aren't working,

then the show has to go. We know, we know about that. Yeah. The dolls aren't working. I mean, I was from three to six, I guess I was, you say 85 to 88. Yeah. Yeah. aren't working. From 3 to 6, I guess I was.

You say 85 to 88? Yeah, 3 to 6 I watched on TV. When the Gem movie came out, did you live? I lived when they announced it, but I had qualms and questions and concerns. And then when I found out that the budget was only a million dollars, that's a problem. And then when I saw the first um photos from set i was

very disturbed because i like to think of myself as a pretty visual creative um person that really understands that level of like 80s opulence and glamour and even though they were doing in a modern context you know look at like all the pop stars of that era, Gaga, Kesha, you know, Katy Perry, like just do that. Jojo Siwa. At least, can we get a glitter? Can we get a ponytail?

Can we get something? It was just really, really bad. Like the, I don't want to talk trash, but the makeup wasn't up to my standards. The styling wasn't up to my standards. The styling wasn't up to my standards. The script wasn't up to my standard. It was bad. It was bad.

That's what I like about you, Darian, though. We get to work together at the cosmetics company all the time. We will give Darian an idea, a few words. We'll give her a little bit about what the collection's about. And she'll come back with a PDF that will give you details within an inch of your life of what's going to happen that day. Oh, that's fantastic. The story, the narrative references.

No one's, no one's even pull from. She just, I, what I like about you, Darian is. I love it. That's one of my favorite parts is like all the prep and like the inspiration and the thinking and the planning and. Yeah. It's fun. Marinating.

The marinating, the marinating on the concept and the glamour yeah so fun and that's why i have such a big reference library of like old books and shit so i can like you know anytime i get a makeup job i'm like okay what's the vibe go to my archive pull out of the books that would maybe work and look through it look through it look through it get inspired and you know i'm not copying anything but like you know you pull reference yeah yeah let me ask you this in um in the industry high up at that level do you ever find there are people who kind of like get there by some like god only knows how they got there like any any like um people who actually suck but sometimes they've been like

through nepotism or whatever they kind of just like enjoy that status but they're or is everybody like pretty talented i mean everyone's pretty damn talented um you know some people may like leapfrog or pull stunts through nefarious means but generally you have to frog through nefarious means but you have to like have talent or these like huge clients aren't going to book you you know what i mean you have to i mean it's all like can you do it or not yeah um and is everybody like comfortable with all types of skin colors everywhere like i mean can everybody do it all they should they should be able to yeah yeah okay but all yeah they should be not always though i mean even backstage on some shows like i'm like how are you here like not like the key makeup artist but like someone

on the team where i'm like how did how did you get here because you should be able to like have every skin color in your kit like be able to do any model i mean how awful for like some like super you know deep complected model that like they get sat in a chair and like that person can't do their makeup yeah that's fucked up yeah and like i'm as white as a fucking ghost but you better believe i can paint a black girl honey yeah yeah to the gods yeah better you have to know these things but you know you have to learn these things and like maybe they don't learn i don't know but darian in a hazmat suit and pumps going how did you get here she said she said play deborah cox nobody's

supposed to be here for the most part everyone's really skilled and talented otherwise they wouldn't be invited and if they do show their ass on a show then they just don't get invited back work you know simple as that when i show my ass i always get invited back darian you're such a legend thank you for being here with us today where can people follow you yes um i'm on instagram wah darian darling um yeah that's it i have a twitter but i haven't used it in forever but it's darian darling go to darian's instagram the fashion inspiration is it's stunning it's gorge the lip the play the bangs the glasses, the touch, the feel, the fabric of your life. Everything. Everything. Thank you so much.

Thank you for having me. Bye. Bye.