The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - Raja Gemini: The Elusive Chanteuse with Katya

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

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Hello. Hello. Thank you. AKA Roger. Yes. I'm trying to think of parts of my body that might be bald right now. Some. Not all.

Not all. How are you doing? I'm very, very good. I'm so happy to be here because we've tried to have me here for like a couple of weeks. The elusive Shantous. Yeah. Very enusive Chanteuse. Yeah, very enigmatic. Yes, I mean, yeah.

I was watching, this morning I was watching, they have a super cut of all the runways from the all-winner season of All Stars. And I have a lot of questions. No, you don't. I know I do. Really? Yeah, because, so you know how the as this as the show has progressed, like, it seems like every year or every season the bar is sort of like lifted in terms of like what

you're going to present on the runway. I mean, right. I'm obsessed with like rumors about what this girl spent and what that girl spent. It just seems prohibitively costly. And I mean, it blows my mind. I know. What did you, I mean, can I ask you what you spent? On the package?

Yeah. Okay, that's kind of tough because it's still tentative in my brain because I got a lot of really wonderful help and kickbacks. I, you know, it was just right at the tail end as the vaccine started to come in for COVID. So I didn't, wasn't making a shit ton of money and I had to borrow money from my Richard gay friends.

Maybe like, girl, I've been going back on drag race, $7,000. And my friends came through and I paid them all back as soon as I could. But yeah, it was mind blowing because in season three, a whole other story where we were just putting together our Forever 21 sale items. Casual separates. Yeah, all into a duffel bag. But that season in terms of like-

There was nary a lace front anywhere. No one had a lace front. No one had a rhinestone sculpted in gel and glue. Like none of that. There was no disco daddy or- No, yeah, no like solidly stoned gowns like that. No stone tights. And know what I'm saying? And no, oh, this is-

Primitive. This was gifted to me by Loewe. No. This was like on loan from Gautier. Loewe didn't exist. Legit, Loewe did not exist, I don't think. No one heard of Loewe. Yeah, no.

We were all trying to mimic an armadillo shoe. Right. You know? Right, right, right. So many. You know, it's funny, I, so Jujubee got on- I spent a lot of money though, I did., right. So many. You know, it's funny. I am the so jujube got on. I spent a lot of money, though. I did. You did. So you did. OK. And, you know, so jujubes from Boston,

she got on season two and then that galvanized all the girls in Boston. So I tried out for I auditioned for season three and I got a call back. But then and I was so disappointed when I didn't get on. But then when I saw this- You could have been in the same season. No, no, no, no, no. Oh. No, when I saw the season, I was like,

thank fucking God you didn't get on because you would have gone home first. I know. And your season three- No, I'm like, yeah, I know. No, no, no. It's true though. I don't know what I meant by that.

It's not. It's the keep on the joint. Wow. It's true though. No, no don't know what I meant by that. It's the key from the joint. It's true though. That was the hardest season of Drag Race. It was very difficult because they still made us make stuff. No, not only you had to make the money ball. Yeah, that was definitely... The money ball?

That happened in a really weird thing because it was like, there was a holiday that happened, so the crew legally had to have like an extended amount of days off. It was over a weekend. So we had all of these days off and so I fought for us to take the sewing machines and hot glue guns to our hotel. So over the weekend, we had, that's how we had the time to make that. Okay, because I can't even conceive about how much time. It was a lot. Was that stressful?

No, because we had a few days, but it was stressful because I really wanted to make something that was super grand. I wanted to make these parade floats and we weren't able to achieve it. But we had nothing to do. We were in the hotel, so we all sat there and just glued all day

and watched TV and Alexis andO. and Yara Sofia. Oh my God. And Manila, yeah. That was- We made so much stuff. Hair, dresses, and- So much stuff. Yeah, yeah, it was like, that is like, gave me such anxiety. It was the last time they ever did that. Right.

There was a lot of last things that happened on that. Like doing the winner stuff. Season four was when they put it into a live studio audience. That's right, because famously... Season two was the last time they were just giving us shit tons of alcohol, because JuJuBe got drunk. Oh, yeah, so this is... Many last things happen.

Yeah, yeah, there are many precedents. Yeah, we were the... JuJuBe the drunk. She put it, thanks to her, there was a cap on the alcohol. Yes. And then in your season. We still had Absolute Vodka as a sponsor. Okay.

So that was always present. Okay. So there were still some, but we weren't, we didn't have it as free flowing as like season two. I think that's a great idea to keep it free flowing. I really do. I think so too. You know? I mean, shit. And then you were leaked as the winner

by Perez Hilton, is that right? Yeah. Yeah. So that was like- Remember Perez Hilton? I do, unfortunately. Us Weekly magazines and like, oh gosh. So yeah, that was like a big scandal.

I think so, yeah. It was a big scandal. It was a big scandal, yeah. So then that's what led to the shakeup of the filming all their different endings and keeping it like, the winner doesn't know that she won until the very last episode or whatever. Which I think is a better idea for real.

Because I literally sat on a secret and then it was on Perez Hilton and I couldn't say anything. And then it just was like, it was too much to handle. It would have been more fun if I got to wait with everyone and get the announcement in real time in that way. So you knew that you won on that last episode. And I went home with it and sat for almost a year.

That's crazy. And I couldn't tell anyone. That's crazy. But it had already leaked on Pres Hilton. So I crazy. And I couldn't tell anyone. That's crazy. But it had already leaked on Perez Hilton, so I was like, I couldn't say anything anymore. I was just like, whatever. But did you have fun on that season? I think so, yeah.

What was your favorite, I mean, how long ago was that? It was like 15 years. Jesus fucking Christ. Yes, because- No, I think it was fun. Reality TV was still in its, like, you know, we were still,

what else was on TV at the time? There was, you know. The Swan. Maybe, yeah. Or like Snooki and all that. Yeah, yeah, Jersey Shore, the bad girls club, things like that. Like when Sharon Needles was crowned in New York City,

Snooki and the other girl. J Wow. J Wow. Were there to crown her. Oh wow. You know, so it was that time in reality television. Um, uh, you know, dance mom, I believe, all those girls were like thriving. Yeah. And then also, wait, you worked for, and you, and I was on top model. That's right. Right. Tom, we got to talk about top model. Do we? Oh, my God. We don't. We don't.

We can. We don't have. I have fun stories, but like, oh, I just I remember. I remember watching Top Model as it aired and also the Tyra Banks show as it aired so many, so many years ago. And that woman is crazy. She is coo coo. That show was so wild.

And I think a lot of the kids these days forget that. Is it, cause she's a Sagittarius? What's your sign? Taurus. Oh, okay. I don't know. She's very Sagittarius in a way. What does that mean?

Just kind of like, it's like a, I'm here and I'm annoying and I'm just like, ah, listen to me. Like, and you know, as a Gemini, that's already kind of how we are anyway. And then it's just like, it kind of clashes. It's a different energy, but kind of the same. No, I don't know.

Tyra was, I was excited to meet Tyra Banks the first time I met her and I got to work with her quite a bit. I'm very thankful to all of the experiences that Tyra has brought me. She took me, that woman took me around the world. Really? Yeah, and she gave me my first beginnings and my break and my chance in the makeup world.

I was no one, I was the guy who worked at the Mac counter and then all of a sudden I was on America's Next Top Model and making a good amount of money for the first time and yeah we did photo shoots on the Great Wall of China and you know in a with a live elephants and kind of how and the mister and miss J's and the It's legendary She was wild she was wild. She was wild.

She was very interesting and eccentric, and eccentric. I mean, this was an on top model, but I think it was on her talk show with the rabies. Do you remember the rabies bit? No. Oh, she was... She would do these pranks. Oh, right, right.

And she'd be like, yeah, yeah, she started foaming from the mouth and then like... Oh, yeah. And then, foaming from the mouth and then and then and she's like, just kidding. It was so fucking crazy. Oh, fuck it. It was the template of your drag now. Thank you, Tyre Banks.

Thank you. Well, but it was the broken doll. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, yeah, it was also that America's Next Top Model and Project Runway were the point of parody for Drag Race originally. And I think a lot of kids don't even know that these days. I know, right?

They know. Because it couldn't, RuPaul just took over that whole identity. Yeah, and it was like, but it's very much based on. It was a piss take. Yeah, it was a piss take on those, like on Project Runway, top model.

It'd be so cool to see Tara Banks as a judge. Has she ever done that? I don't think she has. It costs a lot of money. You think so? But I mean, I was just looking at clips that you guys had. Naomi Campbell. What was that like?

Oh, that was amazing. No I, you know, I've worked with a few like supermodels and people who were part of the fashion world in the 90s and 80s, but like meeting or seeing Naomi Campbell in person is. She is incredible. It's like seeing an angel for the first time, but like not like Roman Catholic angel. I'm talking about like biblically accurate,

you know, with the multiple eyes and 300 wings behind her and she's like glaring with lasers. That's what it feels like. I And the lace front is you've never seen something so silky and so refined human Yeah, beautiful. It's cunt. A sight to behold. Yeah, I mean, I see her walking in all these shows still and somehow like, and it is so funny. Like all the models are beautiful.

They're all great. And then she comes out and they all look like dogs. Like by comparison, it's just like she has this, she has, I don't know what it is. It's just this she has this, I don't know what it is. It's this amazing other worldly quality where she's like, so effortless, alien, elegant, unbelievable, it's just like,

you can't take your eyes off of her. Yeah. Cunt. Cunt. Cunt. Contressa. Contressa. Contressa Fontaine.

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Holy girl. I'm from La Puente, which is, and when you say La Puente, you have to say La Puente. I don't know why. You love it here. But I'm from here, yeah. La Puente is like 25 minutes outside of LA. And I used to come here during high school and like shop on Melrose and shoplift on Melrose. Oh yeah.

Yeah. Interesting because I just did a drag con. I did a thing for Betsy Johnson. Okay. I just did a drag con, I did a thing for Betsy Johnson. Which was like full circle because back in the 90s when I was like 14 years old, I pretty sure I shoplifted at her store in Melrose. Here I am 50 years old modeling for money. Wait, how was drag con? It was okay, it was okay.

I'm still like, I'm wondering if I should go back next year. I think next year I might do it, but I've taken a few years off. Yeah, me too. And I just, yeah, after, the last time I was there was right after All Stars. So it was kind of like obligatory. We had to do it.

And then I, and the end of the weekend I got COVID. So that left a thing, you know, and it was just so much trouble to get it all together. So I've taken a few years off. I think I'll go back next year. Okay. It's a lot. It's a, it's a lot of stuff. A lot of stimulation, a lot of overhead. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's very, it's, it's too much work planning. I can't planning, plotting, scheming. It's too much. Um, talking about earlier. Payouts. Payouts? You have to pay people.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Anyway, I'm done. We're done. If you could, what is it? What do you sell at Dragon? The same dumb shit everyone else does. A t-shirt, a tote, a sticker, a signed picture, a meet and greet.

Do you like the meeting and greeting? a t-shirt, a tote, a sticker, a signed picture, a meet and greet. Same shit. Do you like the meeting and greeting? No, I do. I do. See, I'm still traumatized by the fact that I got COVID last time. So because I was enjoying the meet and greet so much,

that it became germy. But no, I actually like meet and greets because I usually we're doing it here in L.A. And I'm stoned and wine sipping. It's fine. Please meet and greet. I know each each each hug and selfie is coins. Yeah, I actually I like them too.

I it's I like it doing alone, not with other people like part of a group. I it's um, it's I like it doing alone Not with other people like we're part of a group then it's like too much of a mess But it's it's always nice to to meet and greet It's like, you know in the old like cartoons when they'd be like the wolf and then he looks at someone and they become like a turkey leg Just see dollar signs. Exactly. Dollar signs down the line.

It's a turkey leg with dollars on it. Right? Oh my God. What's your favorite? What's your favorite? Fuck. What's your favorite day of the week? Oh, good question.

Good question. Today is what? Today's Friday. This will probably air when? Who knows? Like a month from now? Probably a month from now. Doesn't matter.

Today's Friday, I think, yeah. You know what? I don't fucking know anymore. I don't know what day it is ever. What's your favorite time of the day? Sunset. Sunset. Everywhere.

Sunset. I think sunsets are most beautiful. And also sunrise. Because sunrise means a whole different thing now in this point in my life. Before it was like, you didn't have a choice. It was, you just got out of the club and it was sunrise and you dealt with it.

And now it's like, coffee, empty my bowels. What about sunrise and sunset in Bali? Oh, magic, religious, spiritual, you know. I'm dying to go. Yeah, I might wanna like chaturanga. Chaturanga Dandasana. When I'm there. Very, very, what's the one where you just laid down?

Shavasana. Shavasana. Oh, that's my favorite. I'm changing my drag name. No, you should change it to Yikapada Rajakaputasana. What does that do? That's the one-legged king pigeon pose. No, Shavasana.

Okay, okay. I am Shavasana Hasnam. Shavasana, Shavasana. I am Shavasana Hastan. Shavasana Dupree. Shavasana Dupree. Debra Dupree. La Beija. Wait, who's your favorite Drag Race girl of all time? If you had to pick one.

I've actually been thinking about this. Remember when we used to like be on the toilet and we would have like a stack of magazines? Okay, no. But I've always been fascinated by be on the toilet and we would have like a stack of magazines Okay, no, but come on But I've always been fascinated by what did you read on the toilet? I'm not thinking because I spend that much time in the toilet. My bowels are not one of those quickly I think it's just habit. I've just been doing it all my life. What are you reading on? No, I was just thinking I was on the toilet the other day and now I was like wow We have acts we have like a full thing I can shop

Masturbate poop the other day and now I was like, wow, we have like a full thing. I can shop, masturbate, poop, keep up with news all while I'm crapping. It's like, what world do we live in? I love it. And then there was one day where I was thinking about all the Drag Race girls that I just love because I'm always five-hearting so many people, which is my expression of appreciation and love on Instagram.

And I love Aquaria. Yeah, talented. I think Aquaria's cool. She's such a great performer. Yeah, I love Nympha Wind. I love Plastique Tiara. We gotta talk about Plastique. We gotta talk about Plastique.

What's going on there? Need aastique. What's going on there? Need a cardiologist. What is going on there? Myocardial infarction when I watch her on Drag Race. What is going on? I don't know that I've had the pleasure of meeting her. I certainly haven't. I have, yeah.

I haven't had the pleasure of spending time with her. The Asian girls are slaying. The Asian girls are slaying. But she's at a, Plastique's at a level that I cannot even comprehend. I cannot even comprehend it. No, no, no. It's so beautifully.

It's perfect. It's AI. It is AI. AI, AIO. AI. It's perfect. Yeah, how? How is it that perfect?

I'm like, I've- No, I love it. I love it. I love it. If we're at that point where next level is what it demands, then go that far. I don't want to be a part of it though. I don't want to spend, I never want to spend money on Drag Race ever again.

No, no, no. No, and to me, like drag is all about failure and like in being bad and being in cringy and being ugly and being gross and, and, and losing. But she doesn't embody any of those concepts at all. She's, she comes down the runway and it's, it is AI. It's AI. Like there's wings and a thing, you know, and, and then like, she's got a head piece

that's cover covering the flawlessly applied, like, uncloggable lace. And it's just, like, every detail is so out of this world, out of, over the top, perfect. And, like, there's never a misstep or, like... In season three, I painted my forehead red. And people lost their mind. Are you kidding me?

That doesn't fly. It doesn't work now. That's a mini challenge. That's like, oh yeah. Oh my God. It's so crazy. It is crazy. The bar has been lifted so high that.

It's too much. Yeah. I've contributed to that. So now I don't want to participate. Yeah. Not in that sense. It really costs too much. I'm a really like a huge lover and advocate

of vintage recycling, upcycling. I've always been that girl. And on Drag Race, even in All Stars, a lot of that shit was stuff that I was like gluing together just because I was bored during COVID. And then they Theron called and was like, you wanna go back on Drag Race? And I was like, oh my God, I already made four costumes.

And I wore a lot of them. How much time did you get for that? We got a couple months. You got a couple months? Two, three, two, two. That's great. Because I was able to go to New York and talk to my friend who made the 3D blazer thing.

And it was still like, ew. Everyone just like, it was still kind of scary to travel. Okay. And I went to New York and did a fitting and stuff and I even went to PV and got my face like I got My Botox because I have a friend that I go to in PV and I saw a friend who also sows Okay, so he helped me create some things so I had some time to like maneuver. Okay, that's great That's good to hear because I was like stressed out by the by the idea of like this I mean two three weeks to like put all this together

We'll give us time with your your c3p ho look the gold that is like one of my all-time favorite drag race looks of all Time where did that come from? Another one of those things where I just I was I made it I was like in New York and I wasn't I wasn't doing drag But I made this outfit. It was the American apparel like waist-high doing drag when I made this outfit. It was the American Apparel like waist high legging. Remember those? Remember American Apparel leggings? The tight ones and it came in like in a holographic gold.

That's what it is. It was just like one of those I probably got at American Apparel and then I just put shit on it. But I just, it's ADHD. I just make stuff to keep sane, keep moving. What do you think your favorite look of all time is from you? From me?

Yeah, if you had to pick one. On Drag Race? Yeah, on the regular season and then on the all-winner season. Oh God, that's tough. Well, kind of like the tribal look because it was really like, there was a lot of things that we shouldn't have done,

but that one was like such a vague tribal. like I was going for more of a tribal experience rather than a particular cultural moment But I think it was like I think it was important to me because they were like the the challenge was Show us what you do. Uh-huh And so none of that was specific to any particular tribe or part of the world. Like the earrings and the neck pieces were all from China. The skirt was from another part of the world. All the ideas came from different cultures. Multiculti. And it was like the first time anybody had seen that.

And I was really nervous to do it. So I think that's probably my favorite one. It's beautiful. The Marie Antoinette one people still talk about. It's so gaggy. And most of the costume still fits me. The wig is now in different chunks and parts and placed on different costumes. I think part of the wig is in a shoulder piece on a...

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I like, I particularly watching season three back, it's like, it's always like, well wonderful to see you stomp the runway. You stomped it. I don't. You very, you stomped it. Yeah. Yeah. Shitted on them.

The blueprints. Yeah, no on them. The blueprints. Yeah, no, it's the blueprints. Yeah, the icon. Yeah. The icon. I think, you know, I think that's all I'm really good at. Oh, come on. No, I'm good at a lot of things, yes,

but that I'm really good at that. Yeah. That's definitely a trademark. And I, I've definitely been able to capitalize and have fun with it. The high heel situation is different now as I've turned 50. You know, and the older girls when I was growing up was warning me.

They were like, keep it up sis, your feet are gonna hurt. And they're like, I'm surprised it didn't hurt already. Just wait till you're 50. And baby, it just showed up one day, I woke up and my feet hurt. And I'm actually, I'm up and my feet hurt. Yeah. And also- I'm actually, I'm not opposed to the kitten heel.

No shit. Right. No shit, no shit. I mean, I don't- It's fine. And also people don't know, like they really need to know about the greased up sheet metal of that runway.

Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not a good surface to walk on. Yeah, on Drag Race, that 3D outfit was kind of brittle because it was a 3D printed. Have you ever felt 3D printed stuff? It's not really that solid. So there were parts of it that had already been mended

because they broke in process as they traveled from New York to LA for me to wear it. So I was like very gentle with it. But the shoes that I had on were made of stainless steel done by my friend Kira Goodie in England. And there was no tread on it. Oh God. So imagine a stainless steel planter,

like it holds succulents at home now, but it was on my feet and I'm walking on that, that slippery aluminum foil. So slippery. Oh my foil. So slippery. Oh my God. So slippery. And I remember like, we never got a practice run through. For sure.

When you go on the runway your first time, that's it. Good luck. They don't say anything about it. Good luck. Yeah, they're just boop, go do it. And I couldn't believe the moment I stepped out the first time I was like, you gotta be fucking kidding me.

Yeah, yeah. You have to be kidding me, this is so slippery. I would never do anything that precarious in my actual real drag life. No. No, in fact, I never do anything like that. I wish we could just go barefoot. I've started to.

Oh good. Okay. Let's just get it. I just kind of go with the witch vibes. Yes, yes. Oh, she's a witch. Right now my feet hurt. Yeah, yeah, it's like, yeah.

When the toes are like, the toenails look like lacquered corn chips then we got bunions and stuff going oh, she's a witch. Right now my feet hurt. Yeah, yeah. It's like, yeah, when the toes are like, the toenails look like lacquered corn chips then we got bunions and stuff going on. You saw my feet, I took the camera. Fuck's sake. The bell bottom is never big enough, I guess. Yeah. What else, let's see.

What's the worst memory you have from Drag Race? Losing my temper. Okay. Lost my temper a lot in various points in both season three and in All Stars. And every time I do it, every time I lose my temper, I'm always ashamed. Okay.

And it's happened a lot. When did you, when did you? With Gemini. We just, we go for it. And it's dramatic. And I say things and I, and we do it with intent. Everyone around us will catch the wrath. And I did have those moments where I threw, you know, season three, I threw food across the work room, like all the way across the workroom. The workroom was smaller then. Okay. A lot of temper tantrums

that were kind of traumatizing to the crew. Oh really? Maybe, I don't know. In hindsight, I didn't care at the time, but yeah. I wish I didn't stress out so hard on it, because in hindsight and in all seriousness, it has been nothing but a wonderful thing in my life. Yeah. Right?

Yeah, absolutely. It's like, I think about life before Drag Race and after Drag Race, it's like black and white to technicolor. You know? Yeah. No, I don't think my memories of it are really that terrible.

I've just erased them if they have been. Cause it's not that serious anyway. It's not that serious. It's such a created little bubble of time and space and you're kind of in it and you get really heated and passionate and you're in it and you spend a lot of fucking money and. But don't you think a lot of that has to do with the fact

that the sequestering and the no phones really creates like this pressure cooker type of situation? I do, but I thought it was gonna to be a lot harder than it was. I think I really needed it. I think it's a great thing to happen. Yeah, and it's kind of like you're watching somebody going through this like weird drug withdrawal. Totally. No, 100%. I mean, you know, we all have our vices, but the biggest vice that any human on the planet has is their device.

100%. Right? It's so fucking baffling. Yeah. Because think about, you think about like, and this is for every single person pretty much, besides like Buddhist monks at the temple. Like the first millisecond you have this like,

sense of boredom, the phone comes out. Right. And it just, that's the way it is for every single person. I've seen a lot of people on Instagram and Reels talk about like, oh yeah, I took a month off and I'm like, that's good in theory. But like, how am I supposed to like, you know, I don't know, but we did it.

We did it at Drag Race. Six weeks. And they, at the end, they kind of like, let us have like little windows windows of time and I didn't take advantage of it because I was kind of enjoying it. Yeah, I was like anybody who knows me and loves me knows that I'm doing something right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And in fact, I actually already told them like my family. I convinced no no it was I think was all-stars. I convinced the PAs To let me have my computer on the weekend so that I could jerk off to porn You know no it's it's it's one of those things where you have to be prepared for that when you go on to drag race Or you're going to be sequestered. It's important because when you don't have your handheld device. I actually in season three because when you don't have your handheld device, I actually in season three, from Raven's advice,

brought a DVD player with a small stack of DVD horns to season three. Not joking, ask all the girls, because we all, I was like, hey guys, I've got the porn. So we passed it around and each time it passed around, it came back to me, gooeyers. No, I'm kidding. No, we were all very mindful.

We all wiped it down. I brought a point-oh book. Oh, vintage nostalgia. Yeah, yeah, it's the kind of book you read with one hand. You know, I was out of the closet a few days ago, and there was a stack of vintage porn that came in magazines. That's great. At first, I saw them in the stack and I was like,

oh, 599, I'll get some just for fun. And then I started flipping through them and then all of a sudden I was 16 again. Yeah, it's wild. It's wild. It was a turn on. It was like, wow. It's crazy, right?

I mean- It's flipping through the pages. So you say you're a 50, I'm 42. Can you imagine growing up in this day and age, coming of age, going through puberty with every single pornographic item at arms reach? They say that Gen Z and kids now are like fucking less in high school. Yeah. There's less high school pregnancies cause they're just like, why?

I can fuck my hand or Amazon a device. Right. Hands free. Right, yeah. You don't have to touch anyone. Yeah. Sure, so be it. I would have loved that.

Man. Yeah, I guess. Or not. No, I think I loved going to the bookstores and like and then while you're at the bookstore you would get you would have like the the the the meetup with somebody as they're staring over your shoulder as you're reading the magazine I mean or in the little dark rooms In the back and you'd put a few quarters in and then oh my god it's why there's a guy on the other side of the hole and he's like jerking off like

The kids will never know They'll never know and I still I still think that that's a beautiful a beautiful thing I think I mean I love that like the cruising titillation It's so totally no no the kids will never know so fun bath houses Yeah So fun. Bath houses. Yeah. Early 2000s was my bath house era. As I first moved to LA, I had a drag mother who was a bath house fanatic.

So she taught me all the late night bath house shenanigans. Yeah, my first one I went to was in Brazil, Cunty. Really? Cunty. I was like, how old were you? I must've been like, in my 30s. Because I was like traveling for drag race. Did you get railed?

Yeah. And then what happened? Hurry up. Oh my god. That's like, you know, that's in my porn search bar. Brazilian first. And then whatever. Prolapse. poop, brutal.

Brutal poop slaying by Brazilian. What do you think about, what do you think about fisting? Fascinating, right? No, very, very fascinating. I have never been fisted, but I have been. These slender, demure hands have definitely curled itself into its knuckle form, thumb underneath,

and then into point have definitely reached that far. Yeah, just to the like. In your own butt or somebody else's? No, no, no, someone else's. Someone else's, various people, but never my own. It's not my thing. I'm not that, no, I always feel like, you know, I love the idea of what the butthole's possibilities is,

but not for me. Yeah, I feel like the moments I've had with my butthole have gone to capacity many years ago, and I don't think a fist is in the... No, too much. Too much. Not in this iteration. I'm not that bored in my life. Yeah. And I'm also not interested in like...

I've never been fascinated or like compelled to push limits. Do you know what I mean sexually? Which I know for a lot of my friends who are like very hypersexual and into that kind of thing. They're really into the concept of pushing limits. Yeah, I did versions of that early in my like sexual experimentation. There was definitely fetishes involved and I did that. You know, I can tell you something. I get it. You know what's so fucking hot and gross and just like, fucking hot and gross and just like,

love me. I mean it. Are you Amanda Hug and Kiss? Like it. I see memes about like, or like reels about like old daddies who just want to like make out and so that, and I'm kind of that person. Oh, let me tell you something. So I've done all of it.

I've got to tell you a secret. So recently, I got a four-handed massage. Oh. OK. So there was two guys, gay guys. Like eroticisms? Yeah, it was a sensual massage. Two gay guys who were naked in their apartment.

They gave me a massage. And it was lovely, wonderful. And they were attractive. Very attractive. So much so that a week lovely, wonderful. And they were attractive. Very attractive. So much so that a week later, I texted one of the guys, I was like, hey, I have a proposition for you. I'm totally prepared for you to say no,

but just wondering, is there any way that I could pay to see you and your boyfriend have sex as a voyeur? They were fine with it. Yes. And I have to say it was one of the most wonderfully satisfying sexual experiences I've ever had to date. And... And I wanted to see them make love.

Did you pay for it? Yes, I did pay for it. See, here's the thing. What? I love that. I love the concept of paying for a fantasy. I do too. I want to know that the transaction says...

You know? This is a podcast. No one saw that, but we can do it in sound effects. You know, like, I paid for it. Thank you very much. You give me what I need. Yes, no. You pay for the clarity.

No, no, no, yeah. Like, you know, pursuing people sexually is all very interesting and fascinating and adventurous, but there's a lot of gray areas, of course. But like- And we have friends who are in the service industry and I have full respect to all of my friends who do that and there's, you know, and I get it, there's a sexist,

like it's all kind of for sale. It always has been. When wasn't it for sale? Yeah, I mean, I love it, I love it so much and I love, I've always, you know, back in the day when I was like doing sex work, it's like as a drag queen, I loved it because I never like, you know,

I always did it for fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was so fun. Just for the story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. And I'm, oh my God, it was wonderful. That was like my sunset strip story, early 2000s,

like all of my long black hair. The daytime I would do makeup on top model at nighttime, suck dick at the Mondrian for 250 bucks and sent back to my studio apartment in the limo. Fucking A. Walking out of there with shades and. Oh, don't look. No photos. No photos. Trench coat. Fierce.

Cheater. Did you ever show up with a trench coat and nothing else underneath it? Probably. Fierce. Of course. Did I unplug? No, there we go. I hear myself now. Fierce. Fierce. Yeah.

I love it. Yeah, I love it. I was like, wonderful. I was like sat in a chair. The two guys were just like making love. Oh wow, that's fun. Making love. And then it was like so fabulous. It was so fabulous. It was so fabulous.

It's like my favorite thing right now. I love it. Yeah, I think I'm gonna go back. What a luxury. Yeah, it felt very special. And also like I love the transaction because it's like. Did you become involved in the process? No, well. Or was this just you got to.

Actually, I did eat his ass for one second. Oh, see, that's fun. Yeah, just that moment. But I prefer, but I told him, I was like, I prefer to just, for y'all to do your thing, have it be romantic and love making. Sure, oh my God. And then just observe.

It was lovely, loved it. I'm expecting you in like this gondola chair, like dresses as Sphinx. No, no, no, imagine they're on a lazy Susan. Or like a bird painting. Your fingers are blackened like Michelle Lummi. Fuck. I have my gold vampire grill in.

You're like Billy, what's her name? Billy Eilish? No, no, no. Billy M. Holliday? No, the singer, Broadway black girl, Pose from Pose. Pose. Come on. I'm too stoned for this. Billy, what's her name? From Pose. She played the, she played the Billy Porter. Yeah, I'm Billy Porter at the Met Gala. You know, when she comes in, the guys are all picking her up. Cleopatra, I'm seeing that.

I'm seeing that for you. Okay. Okay. Not quite the fantasy. No? I was not really a fan of particular fantasy, but it was just so great. Oh, I know.

I just loved it. Voyeurism is so fun. Voyeurism. Yeah. I like, I definitely, I, it I, it's interesting to be like, cause I'm very like, I'm kind of tame in terms of like stuff. So I feel like as I, there's still a lot to unfurl sexually for me in my life, which I'm very excited about.

Unfurl, unfurl is so good. It's one word, right? Yeah. Unfurl. Wow. So gross. Oh. Oh.

What, what is something on your bucket list that you have not yet achieved? Everything, like complete a single task in a day. Oh, stop, really? I don't know, I don't know. I have so many ideas and I wanna do so much, but I'm trying to like Keep creating but somehow eliminate stress out of my life

Like, you know, I'm just kind of like you're like for just any time Like I think that was something that that was kind of fun to be like it was just fun to be stressed out in life Hmm so many places to go so many clubs everybody wants me and I'm just kind of like I think my ferns need to be watered Yeah, yeah, should I gold leaf that entire wall Gold leaf that wall Yeah, are you a body? I'm now become a homebody. I love being at home So, I don't know. I'm just trying to like, my goal is to like, make money, create art,

inspire the children, but not be so frantic and panicky about anything. I mean, I'm tired of being stressed out at airports. There's no bragging right or flex to that, you know? I'm just tired. You know? No. I'm just tired. No, I- You know what I'm saying?

Yes, I do, 100%. Like, what's the, like, there's no- I don't know what the, I don't know how to get, I'm already there, actually, but I don't know how, I don't know what the next step's are, to be honest with you. I'm just going with it. I'm just trusting it.

Whatever it says to us, right? Yeah, I mean, I'm at the point in my life, but I don't see any, like, virtue or glamor in being stressed, overworked, feuding, yeah. None of that stuff is beefing. Blah, blah, blah. Overachieving. I mean, what's the, what's the fucking point? I was just watching this, um, uh, documentary about like hurricanes, volcanoes, and earthquakes.

It's like, we could all be swallowed up by the big one tomorrow. What's the tea? We were reminded of it by a slight earthquake the other day. Yeah, the first one I ever felt. You're nothing. Ten years in LA, nothing. When those plates start rubbing together, mama says, bye. Yeah.

When I was a kid, they used to have those like earthquake movies where like the earth would literally split and people would be like, ahhh! You know, and they'd fall into the split. I thought that that that's what it was like, but you know, whatever They're all scary and it and all these things are just reminding us how Absolutely nothing we are no, I like did you I saw that I watched the movie twister with Helen Hunt yesterday Oh, how was that? So it's fabulous classic. Okay, was it was like late 90s the first one right? I think I actually to 97 or something.

Okay, I remember seeing it by myself when I lived in Orange County, 96. I was working for Mac Cosmetics at South Coast Plaza in Orange County. I went to go see it by myself and there was a Hooters next door. So I got Hooters wings, watched Twister and fell asleep. Oh yeah.

That is a true story. That is fierce. It's so cunty, the movie. And then I watched it later. It's great. Helen Hunt is really just, she's just like, she's got a boner pick with that Twister. So campy.

It is, but it's also really high octane too. Because it's like a divorce drama in this disaster movie. It's just so great. You'll see more Hoffmans in it. It's just so great. Philip Seymour Hoffman's in it. It's just such a great fucking film. You know, I saw the new one, Twisters, flop. Really? Flop.

Oh no. Flop. But what was your standard as you walked in? I don't know, I just wanted something. CGI fantasy. No, there was no tension, there was no character building. Maybe building. There's no maybe you needed Hooters chicken wings in a nap I don't know. I Think I probably did what's your favorite movie of all time? Oh god, that's too hard. That's too hard. Oh, hold on

Carrie oh, yes Like immediate like I like I have an Amazon like little library of movies that I actually paid the 6.99 or 12.99 and there's like a little library of films and the immediate ones I go to are Carrie, The Shining, which I watched on the night or the day of Shelley Duvall's death and you know, the visual of it, the feast on the eyes,

it could be silent, you wouldn't even need sound and you could just watch it and each scene is haunting and the graphics and a lot of the scenes Were built on set so that's and that that's my that's my love for horror and and dark films like that So I go right away to that film is featured in the movie twister starring Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton the shining Playing on it at a drive- when the huge F5 tornado comes and fucks everybody up, it's cunty. Yeah, The Shining is so good. It's so good. Jack Nicholson, Shelley Duvall, Red Rum,

all of it, the twins. The old lady in the bathtub. The old lady in the tub. That's me. Yeah, yeah, no. That's me. It is you. That's me.

No, it's you before she becomes old lady, when she's just like ski slope tits and you're like. No, no, like, that's. No, it's you before she becomes old lady, when she's just like ski slope tits and you're like. No, no, no, that's me like, ugh. She like lures it in. Didn't that happen? What? Wasn't she like at first like beautiful and like lured him in?

I don't know. Into the room and then she becomes a monster? I don't know, I don't remember. You're both, anyway you're both. Yeah, yeah, yeah, both, just depending on the sunset or sunrise. Overhead or under lighting. Yeah, candlelighthead or under lighting.

Candlelight or dragcon lighting. What about- Dragcon lighting is so bad. It's offensive. There's no, you can't even- It's abusive. What? It's abusive.

It's abusive. Nobody should, do you remember, were you part of the girls that got got at dragcon for that New Yorker. Do you remember? Yes. Can you believe it? Oh my god, no. And in real life, I'm stunning.

You are stunning. My skin is dewy. How did they find cracks, wrinkles, pores that were like this big, like as big as the width of this, like there was pores, things coming out of the pores. Unbelievable. So exposed, so vulnerable. I was like, I was-

And the outfit I had on, my God, it was like just like some like, you know, thing that I bought on Instagram late at night. It was so, it was so, it popped up the other day on social media and I was like, damn, they really got all the girls that day. Yeah, it was fun dissing, like the few weeks after when we were switching our faces out. We were so angry. Yeah, so angry.

Because it was just like, oh, hey, come take this photo and then we had no idea. You didn't say that this wasn't at Albert Sanchez or Mike Ruiz or Matthew Anderson. This was one of those, hey, we love the texture of drag. Oh my God, we just want to show the real life. The rawness. You didn't ask for my permission.

No, it was horrible. Can we sue? No, it's too late. No, I think we did. We probably all signed something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll never forget that. I was drunk probably.

That was so, that was so terrible. 10 in the morning, I was drunk. And I remember I took my photo fresh and I did not look anything like fresh in the photo. But I can't imagine what would happen if I had taken it at the end of the day. You know what I mean? Oh my god. I mean it was just so bad. Everybody got so fucking, we got our asses handed to us that day.

It was very humiliating. I wonder what the photographer was going through because he saw everyone just being like boo. I know. I don't give a shit. I don't care either. Yeah, fuck you. That was shy-sty, you should have fucking told me. You should have warned me ahead of time.

Yeah, I mean it's like. And I wouldn't have showed up. Yeah, I know Kenny, it was like, hey, we'd love to invite you to. I would have dressed up as a porch and had a full screen door in front of me. Yeah. Like, what would have been the ask,

like, hey, this award-winning photographer, we'd love to invite you to come take the shittiest photo you've ever taken in your whole life. Like, have you ever wondered what the ask like, hey, this award-winning photographer would love to invite you to come take the shittiest photo you've ever taken in your whole life. Like, have you ever wondered what you look like, but real shitty? Come, come, we invite you to, we invite you to get photographed by this world-renowned photographer,

looking the shittiest you've ever looked in your life, you bitch, you ugly bitch. Well, I remember that morning, there was like a bunch of spots that we had to hit as part of like whatever like Responsibilities or whatever they were like, oh you're here. Please take pictures And we went to different spots and that was one of them and I was like, oh New Yorker magazine Right. Yeah, no, and then no, it's fine. The girls got it's fine. It's fine. They got the real last

They know what it actually looks like but from now on If I don't see Albert Sanchez behind the camera, get the fuck out of here. No, no. You're not going to do me right. Albert is... I don't take pictures anymore unless there's a full set built around me. Yeah.

You know, David LaChapelle, I need extras on it. Hell yeah. Just kidding. No. I don't really take pictures. I would love... I've been obsessed with Daphne Guinness' music videos. Oh my God. Yes, yes. I can't, I've been obsessed with Daphne Guinness' music videos.

Oh my god, yes, yes. I can't believe I wear these dirty shoes. Are you homeless? This is not being shown, right? No, they can't see it. Yeah, it's leaving in the. I'm so comfortable, it's Friday. It's Friday.

My favorite day. Wow. What's your favorite country? Ooh, what's your favorite country? It would be, well my favorite place, I don't think it is Hong Kong. Oh yeah, Hong Kong's nice. I think that was the most, I don't recall ever being like, Dramatic landscape.

It's so dramatic. Very international. It's so dramatic. It's crazy dramatic. Yeah. It's crazy big. Yeah. Favorite countries always, anywhere in Asia really. That's the one place I have not,

I mean that's the one continent I have not been able to. You've never gone to Bangkok or Bali. I've been to a coast of Muay Thai land, but it was a small island, but for like a yoga thing. So it was like beautiful, but I never, I never been to Bangkok and I've never really been around Japan or China. Oh, it's so vast, right? It's so complex.

Every single country has its own like tradition, culture, spice, food, spirituality. And you know, I just love it. And your dollar honestly goes a long way. It's one of those places on the planet where we can still kind of spend money and get something wonderful out of the experience. A lot of the places I wanna go to, I wanna go to Iceland.

I just missed, I was supposed to be in Iceland last week for Pride and then flights were all wrong because it's like storms were happening on the East Coast and I didn't make my flight. So I didn't end up going back. You're, yeah, they'll probably, have you been asked to go to Iceland for a break? You're probably, after they hear this,

they're gonna be like, fuck Raja for not showing up. We should have got Katja to begin with. Oh my God, yes, please let me, please book me in Iceland for a little wiggle date. I had a Bjork number altogether. It was so like, I was so excited because I'm such a Bjork fanatic and my love for Iceland came,

and knowledge of Iceland Bjork. Right. And so always been curious. And I was very heartbroken at the fact that I couldn't go because I really wanted to like fuck Raja and book me. Yeah. I think the lesson of the day is that Raja is a flop and that you got to please book me. I will show up for the flight. I showed up. I just can me. I will show up for the flight. I showed up! I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding.

I just didn't make it. No, bitch, I was ready. I was like, oh my god, I'm doing my Björk concert. It was gonna be about 30 minutes long of just me lip syncing and swirling and hopping. Swirling and hopping. Swirling and hopping. Are you going back to P-Town? Swilling wine.

Yeah. I don't know. Hold on. That was too much. You caught me off guard. No, because today actually I was thinking about P-Town hardcore because to work there for an entire summer. That's tough. Yeah. Trixie and I really bonded at that time. because to work there for an entire summer,

Trixie and I really bonded at that time. I just can't imagine. Yeah, as a job and as a thing, it's a commitment and it's difficult. And, but it's definitely like, you're thrown into the wolves. You just learn on the spot and experience. So I don't know, maybe next summer.

Just like a quick weekend goal, but not whole summer. It's too much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I could never imagine. Too white. Too white for me. Yeah. Very expensive.

Very expensive. Too expensive. It's very expensive. It's gotten worse and worse and worse. Rent is outrageous. It's outrageous. Yeah, I don't think I don't really have any we'll see we'll see I don't want to talk about too much because if we keep Talking about it then the universe will listen and then if it manifests and it's just gonna be I'm just gonna meditate and think

About it and to start writing a show We're gonna wrap up a couple one one last question. Why? I wanna say all day, three hours. But before we wrap up, is there anything you wanna promote or plug? Nothing. Okay, perfect, perfect. Follow me on Instagram and you'll see if I figure anything out. I only post about once a month, because that's all I have fucks to give about. The elusive Shantous.

Enigmatic. Enigmatic, yes. Veiled. Veiled. Veiled serpent give about. The elusive Shantus. Enigmatic. Enigmatic, yes. Veiled. Veiled. Veiled serpent goddess. Veiled elusive. Loch Ness. Loch Ness.

Bigfoot. Bigfoot. Yes. Bigfoot. Shut up. You're so mean. See, I knew I was gonna get bullied when I came here. I just knew it. I would like to implore the children

to go follow Ms. Raja on all social platforms because she is the icon, the originator, the OG icon. Thank you so much for being here. You are a paragon. And you are- It's a paragon. It's like the only, the ultimate. The only, the ultimate.

The paragon. Yeah. Sue Ellen, you are a paragon. Do you know why I'm an alcoholic today? What? Sue Ellen. Really? Sue Ellen Crandall?

Yeah, Dallas. Like I want, remember Sue Ellen was from Dallas. Oh, no, I was talking about Sue Ellen from Don't Tell Mom. Oh, nevermind. Okay. Wait, what was it from? Oh, I can't, you know when I get Dallas and Dynasty mixed up? Same vibes, but this one is set in Texas anyway.

She was an alcoholic and like as a child, like the way she like her hands shook as she drank her whiskey. It's very inspiring. And her like her three colors of eyeshadow. Awesome. I'll send you blanks, I'll send you one. You'll see.

You'll be like, oh, that's why. All right, well thank you so much for being here. You're the best. Thank you. I had so much fun. Thank you for getting me out of the house because like I said, I like to stay home. I do too. I'm going right back in the house after this.

Me too. Okay. See y'all next week. Bye. Goodbye everyone. Goodbye. Goodbye. Thanks for watching!