The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - Revisiting the Comedic Genius of Macy Rodman
Episode Date: October 19, 2021As Fall finally arrives and brings with it the deaths of millions upon millions of poor, innocent leaves, let's take a moment to reflect on the comedic genius that is Macy Rodamn's Caitlyn Jenner impe...rsonation. As the Bald creative team puts the finishing touches on the next great American novel, we revisit the time that artist, singer, actor, and IGTV Hall of Famer Macy Rodman joined the girls in the studio to discuss her Caitlyn Jenner Impersonation, Lana Del Rey-fueled Twitter Mobs, and the absolute insanity of Wendy Williams. This one was all over the place topic-wise, but it's not about the destination. It's about the journey, folks. Follow Macy: @MacyRodman Follow Macy/Caitlyn Jenner Updates: @CaitUpdate Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To listen to our podcast on YouTube: http://bit.ly/TrixieKatyaYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/baldandthebeautifulpodcast If you want to support the show, and get all the episodes ad-free go to https://thebaldandthebeautiful.supercast.com/ If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/baldandthebeautifulpodcast To check out the Trixie and Katya Live Tour, go to: https://trixieandkatya.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hi, Bald. It's me, Katya.
While we're working on some big upcoming projects, we're going to revisit some of our favorite episodes.
This week, we're going back to our interview with Macy Rodman.
Enjoy.
Macy Rodman, everybody.
This is the incomparable Macy Rodman. Macy Rodman in everybody. This is the incomparable Macy Rodman.
Macy Rodman in the studio today, folks.
Our very first in-person, in-house studio guest.
It's beautiful.
And not to sexualize you, but you walked into the room leg first.
And that leg was seven foot long.
They're attached to my pussy.
Legs. I saw legs.
I saw a cap.
And I was like, we're doing this today.
We're in the Studio 71 studio.
We're not in my living room.
You're used to filming my living room.
Oh, okay.
And it can be very primitive.
Yeah.
Because I run the cameras, so it can get, the quality can go in and out.
Yeah.
I'm usually blurry or not in focus at all, which I prefer.
There's one episode where I was like,
kind of like really well lit and gorgeous.
And this one was so out of focus.
It was like, so it was like,
about to be like a reenactment, dramatic reenacting,
but the camera just cut.
It just cut.
I love those reenactment shows where it's super blurry
and super slow frames per second.
Yeah. Yeah.
And they're like, no one knew
what she was doing behind closed doors.
And it's like a shadowy face like looking.
Yeah.
She's just back here like rearranging some things.
They're like, we didn't know.
We don't know either.
Reenactment actor.
Yeah.
That's a job.
That's a great job.
That would be.
Oh, that would be a great gig just to be a director.
I only do dramatic reenactments of like true crime events.
Yeah.
I had no lighting and just bad actors.
And you also have to look like a person.
So like if you're an average actor
and you're not a supermodel, it's probably a great option.
Because you have to look like a normal killer
or a normal victim.
You can't have like on your Taylor Joy like...
Yeah, you have to look like Aunt Lisa.
Yes.
Aunt Lisa the murderer.
Aunt Lisa the murderer and Lisa the murderer
so you're visiting
from New York
I can't believe
we just magically
got you here
at the right time
I know
no I've been planning
oh she's manifesting
I've been plotting
I've been plotting
I've had
I have my little birds out
and they whisper
yeah
I don't know if you know
that this person
loves you so much
that you should feel unsafe
and it's like
I don't know if you know that I person loves you so much that you should feel unsafe. I don't know if you know that.
This seating arrangement is to your benefit.
I am obsessed.
I'm obsessed.
And it's just because I have a tendency to, you know, just want to KMS all the time.
And your videos, really.
I'm like our fans with her.
Yeah, you were going to kill yourself.
I was going to kill myself, but then I saw you eat sour cream. I'm like our fans with her. Yeah, you were gonna kill yourself. I was gonna kill myself,
but then I saw you eat sour cream and I'm okay.
You know, like that's totally the vibe.
She showed me some of your videos
and at first I was just like, what a...
First of all, I love a blatant face filter.
Oh yes, yeah, absolutely.ant face filter. Oh, yes.
Yeah, absolutely.
Let's not do Hollywood special effects.
Let's not.
Can we start getting in drag that way?
Just a face filter?
I would prefer it.
We've tried so many.
We've tried to figure out how to do a screen with a phone to do some kind of a live event.
It's just impossible.
Yeah.
It has to live in Snapchat.
Oh, no, no, no.
I've got it.
I've got it.
You just have to have the right dramatic
reenactment theatrical lighting.
Oh, my God. You're absolutely right.
So you're kind of backlit. You give the
silhouette, and then with the voice, people
will fill in the rest.
We're obvious that people at home don't know.
You have this brilliant... It's sort of your alt account,
right? Kate Update. Do you want
to tell the children what that is?
So, oh God, when did I start doing it?
I just started doing her voice kind of after she was like,
I love this show, and she was a phenomenon for a moment.
And so I just started doing Caitlyn Jenner impressions
with the Snapchat face swap filter.
And I don't know, she's become like,
she's kind of become my impression of my dad. Cause she's become like, she's kind of become like my impression of my dad.
Cause she's just like, that's like,
that's her vibe is like weird, weird dad.
Like she calls herself a dad.
She is someone's weird old parent.
Yeah. And so I don't know.
It's just like, I, she slowly became like more
and more despicable in real life.
But like my impression is always like dopey old Kate.
Like, you know, so I don't know.
It's, it's fun. I mean, was it Kate. Like, you know, so I don't know. It's fun.
I mean, was it, I mean, cause people,
we do so funny. We love it so much.
And I would say that we do you as Caitlin to each other
all once a day.
Yeah. All the time.
I'll be home all the time.
All the time.
My assistant walks in today.
I said, Hey kiddo. Yeah. Literally this morning I was like All the time. Branding, my assistant walks in today. I said, hey, kiddo.
Yeah.
Literally this morning, I was like, I was putting the sugar in my coffee and I was like,
cafe con azúcar.
It's literally just like, it's just like a rolling bank of like, it's really delicious.
And I'm at the point where like, she's not even Caitlyn to me anymore.
You are.
Yeah.
Your Caitlyn is the only Caitlyn.
Yeah, yeah.
That's good.
I mean, we need to replace her.
And also, your Caitlyn is more endearing at this point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
More young.
And that's on period.
Yes, hunty.
Yes, hunty.
When, so did you, she was on,
that show she did was so strange.
It was more, the vibe of that show,
science fiction directors strive for that level
of surreal, like unbelievable dystopia.
Yeah, it was WandaVision.
It was fucking WandaVision.
It's like a fucking Republican trans woman, like former Olympian.
It sounds like Southland Tales or like some crazy movie.
Yeah.
And then they bring in all of the like incredible like trans women
who've been doing this work for years to teach her how to do it right.
Yeah.
And she's just like, well, you know, I'll throw on some lipstick and let's go on a road trip.
You know, see what happens.
You know, it's like Kate Bornstein is literally it's, you know, God, it was the amount of privilege that was like throughout the whole thing.
Like before the, you know,
the transition and then after, and now with this education.
Right.
You literally have-
This education that no one would ever be,
no college course would ever be privy to.
Kate Bornstein going, what about the freak factor?
How do you feel about being a freak now?
And Kate's like, well, you know,
we're trying to make it a little more normal.
And it's like, everyone's just like,
you don't know what you're doing at all.
I know.
I watched that show, of course,
but I watching it for Candace.
Oh, yeah.
Of course.
I mean, I watch everything for Candace.
And the weird, like, forced, like,
romantic storyline that they try to give.
There was this fierce episode where they decided to go for a,
they tried to go dirt biking.
And Kate was sort of like,
I want to still be able to do my not girly things too.
So we're taking all the girls dirt biking.
You know,
it's a reality show.
They're dirt biking.
All it was,
was Candace putting her helmet on and then taking it off and shaking her hair
out and cheating to camera.
It was the Manor Tanner Star Booty commercial.
Over and over.
I'll just.
And she was so hot and she just kept taking the,
and just shaking the hair out like, what?
Why is everyone looking at me?
I did a gig with her once at a casino
and it was like really poorly attended.
It was like me, her, Lady Bunny.
It was a really cute little cast
and not many people came.
And then afterward, of course, this guy comes up and he's like, is your friend Candace available for a party afterward up in my room?
And I was like, oh, I think she went to bed.
And he goes, oh, OK.
Well, are you available?
So he went from Candace.
How long did it take?
How long did it take?
Oh, my God.
Seconds.
He went from a goddess to SpongeBob in two seconds.
Two seconds.
I'm like, you didn't go, did you?
I didn't go.
You fucking bitch.
I didn't go.
I knew I couldn't follow Candace.
I just got done with Bunny.
Because they already ran through.
And I think Raja was there too.
Oh, wow.
And he had things.
They already ran through Bunny and Raja and they said no.
You're the last option.
Oh my God.
Does, I mean, I wonder if Caitlin knows about your Caitlin.
I don't know because we did like a weird little zine with the New York Art Book Fair or whatever.
And Zachary Drucker did a little thing in it.
But she was like, I'll show Caitlin if I think she'll like it.
And if I don't think she will,
then I just won't tell her about it
and she'll never find out.
And haven't heard anything.
I would guess that she probably would not love.
I mean, in the zine, it was like we were doing
fake NRA ads and it was not a love letter.
So it wasn't like you, like good beauty lighting.
Hi, I'm Caitlyn.
But then also like, you know,
we got the Tesla.
It was just like, you know, weird.
She's really rich.
And really rich people don't always feel comfortable being joked about for being very rich.
Especially because she's got this like,
she thinks that she's like altruistic.
Like she's trying to like cultivate this charitable facade or something.
Yeah.
I think that that would bum her out.
Cultivate what?
Yeah.
Cultivate it.
I mean, yeah.
I mean, she's tough.
Yeah.
It's tough.
It's tough too.
I always think of a person like her or like I don't know
like a
a Jenny McCarthy
or a Kirstie Alley
where it's like
you were set up
for the LGBTQIAs
to be obsessed with them
you were
all you had to do
was jump in the pool
yes
and then you do some
you didn't have to jump in the pool
you just like sit by the pool
yeah
and then you do some
do nothing
would be better
some hard left shit
that we cannot get on board with
and it's like
it's like arrested development level like every board with. And it's like. It's like Arrested Development level, like every turn.
You just like, it's like this unbelievable fuck up.
Yeah.
It's really next level.
It's kind of cool.
It's like, how?
It's bizarre.
I mean, like, you know, obviously like no person can speak for any group.
No trans person can be like a role model, you know, even.
But does Caitlyn think of herself as a role model?
I don't know if she does now.
She definitely did at one point.
She did at one point.
At one time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, obviously transitioning
in the public eye
and later in life
has its own challenges.
And that's obviously,
you know.
But her experience
with those things
aren't universal in any way.
And I think that's what makes it
hard to be like,
but you don't speak for
somebody else
who's in a completely different tax bracket.
You know?
Yeah. I mean, I get it.
Like going through a transition,
it's like you're the only person in the world, you know?
And then it's like, oh, after like a few years,
you're like, oh, actually I'm not.
Yeah.
Not that great.
Yeah.
When did that process start for you?
When I was 25, I'm 31 now.
You do the math.
What is that?
17 years.
What is that, 15 years?
That was 27 years ago.
Yeah.
That's fierce.
And yeah, is your family supportive or?
You know, ish.
Why did I just say that's fierce?
She goes, I don't know, I was 31.
I go, that's fierce.
Work, 31, work.
Yeah, I mean, they're not like, you know,
God hates fags or anything.
He does, but they don't care.
You're like, I do.
I certainly do.
No, I mean, you know, I like, I don't talk to a lot of my family.
And my closest family, they're like pretty chill.
So it's fine.
Oh, that's good.
Where did you grow up?
Juneau, Alaska.
What the fuck?
And then I moved to New York when I was 18.
I've been there ever since.
Juneau, Alaska?
Yeah.
What's that like?
It's weird.
It's like, I mean, there's like the kind of Palin-y aspect to it.
And then there's also like a hippie vibe because people come up from like Portland and Seattle to work.
Okay.
Is it gay?
Juneau?
No.
No, right.
I think now it's a little more, but they, I don't know. They installed like a rainbow sidewalk downtown.
Are you buying it?
Yeah.
I was going to say that.
I'm at the point now where I'm like, I was at the mall the other day and old, or not old, Levi's, not to put on blast, Levi's.
I was at the mall and the Levi's had their pride stuff out and the pride stuff was already
out 40% off, like July 1st.
Yeah.
Bye gang.
We waste no time. It's like Valentine's day July 1st. Like, bye, gang! We waste no time!
It's like Valentine's Day or anything else.
They're like, whatever.
It's so weird.
Yeah, I don't, when you, that video,
like, thanks for ExxonMobil, the spots you made.
Oh my God.
The video of yours that we are completely obsessed with
is the one where Caitlyn is giving you a checklist
to whether or not you're trans.
Oh yeah, because that's a real thing,
where she was like, I'll-
What did she say?
I haven't seen that one.
That's a real thing.
Not that, not really.
Not that.
You're not reading a script.
Yeah.
I just read the press release.
No, it was the trans kids in sports thing.
Okay.
And they were like, how do we know who's trans
and just a guy trying to play basketball?
Yeah, just a guy in a wig trying to get into the WNBA.
Very she's the man, very Juana man.
Just one of the guys.
Very Mrs. Doubtfire.
Yeah, there's a lot of that happening.
People don't know.
But she was like, I'll show you how to determine who's trans or not.
I'll come up with a criteria or whatever.
And I don't think any,
like people obviously like weren't living for that.
The Caitlyn Jenner criteria collection.
We need the criteria collection.
Oh my God.
That list.
It's like Blades of Glory.
Tootsie.
Yeah.
Two movies.
Two movies.
Oh my God.
Holy shit. Fucking A.
What is this list, though?
I don't think it ever came out.
She was just like, I'll do it.
And then people were like, I love you.
Sure, Caitlin.
She probably released it to her press people.
And they were like, okay, we got it.
Yeah, I'm sending it out.
God, a checklist. I mean, honestly, I'm sending it out. But you're not gonna want it. God, a checklist.
I mean, honestly, I'm glad somebody probably stepped in
and went, well, maybe you don't do that checklist.
Yeah, maybe we'll give it a day.
I always think with people like that,
like it's someone's job to constantly like-
Worry? Please don't say that.
Please don't say anything today.
And just like appease them, be like, yeah, you're so right,
but they're not gonna get it.
Right.
To like placate them,
but also like try to control fires in a way.
Like how firefighters like dig trenches to stop forest fires.
That's what they're doing with someone's like tweets.
Like, oh shit.
And traps so that they can't just like-
They're like, sure, Kate,
we'll get to the checklist tomorrow,
but we have this Sephora thing we gotta do.
Right.
There's nothing more chilling
than waking up to like
somebody from your management
or something going,
have you been on Twitter today?
Oh.
And you're never like,
are they throwing a party for me?
Is it a fun hashtag?
It's never anything like that.
That's, yeah.
Hashtag living for Trixie.
Yeah.
We're living for you.
You're a Twitter girl.
They're all loving you, honey.
Yeah, anything.
Whenever I get over like
five notifications on Twitter,
I'm like, some twink is like raging.
Does anybody ever come at you for the,
you get hate online?
I am like shuttered to even like say this.
I said something, I said like Lana Del Rey sucks
or something on Twitter.
That was one of the most terrifying days of my life.
You might as well have like attempted
to assassinate any president.
They got some video of me online,
like performing and put like hex videos on top of it.
Like weird, like satanic symbols and shit.
There's some Tati Westbrook shit.
Yeah, yeah.
You need to close the door.
Close the door.
Close the door.
The gay version.
Lana Del Rey reached the back of her bed.
By the way
you're lucky
not at my
music business
conference
by the way
you're lucky
this one didn't
see your
fuck Lana Del Rey
tweet
I was like
I found your
all
she would have
burned you alive
we were
photographed
Lana Del Rey
and satanic
imagery
like
do it together
it's the
ding dong video
it's the
ding dong
we were
photographed once by Chuck Grant,
who is Lana Del Rey's younger sister.
Oh, I listened to that episode.
And this one levitated across the room.
Yeah, I was like, you know when you feel yourself like,
you know, you know, you're about to do something very bad
and you're like, your super ego is trying to pull yourself
back
although ever since the Minuteman
music conference I'm done
yeah yeah yeah
I think she's like really testing the limits
of her fan base
what's Minuteman?
her latest album is like
Blue Bonnets Over the Best Buy.
Blue Bonnets Over the Best Buy.
Shut the fuck up.
I mean, let me get one thing clear.
Blue Bannisters.
We sort of stand.
No, no, no.
I love... No, she's got some good tunes.
I love Nick Follett.
Yes, of course.
Yeah, love.
And it's...
So you know that kind of like the Britney fandom, how they're, they're so, you
know, enamored and, you know, and defensive and they love her even though she's, you know,
that kind of thing.
With Lana, it's the evil version of that.
Right, right, right.
Like it turns, it's so dark sided.
Yeah.
Like when Mariah, like on New Year's Eve had her thing and the Mariah people defended her, it's that times a thousand?
Yeah.
For anything she does.
For anything she does.
Yeah, totally.
And it's, because Lana, there's no humor in Lana's persona, really.
Right, right.
At all.
And Brittany's whimsical, Mariah's hysterical, but Lana is serious.
She, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's serious.
And, like, yeah, she, like, has this, like, darkness to her. So And like, yeah, she like has this like darkness to her.
So it's like those kind of people are drawn to her.
Yeah, but it's funny because I loved the character.
I love the persona, like the early, you know,
in all those albums, you know, the same 12 words
and the same three chords.
I love it.
Like, Dad in a dress and a whiskey.
Like, it's fast, crazy baby.
Yeah, and maybe it hit me at the right age too.
Cause I remember Born to Die came out like when I was like 19.
So I think it just like worked at the time.
Yeah.
And also nobody had done it.
I'd never seen a music video like Born to Die or video games.
It was, I mean.
It's beautiful.
Oh, video games was like a game changer.
It was a game changer.
That like weird MySpace thing.
Yes.
But it's just, it's, she's morphed into, and you know, I don't like to, we don't work in
an industry where everybody has different situations.
She got to put down the pump.. She got to put down the pump.
She's got to put down the pump.
What pump?
What pump?
The penis pump.
Her clit's too big.
She's so big.
I can see her clit through that white dress, honey.
White dress, big clit.
Dr. Tooth, sorry, sorry, sorry.
She is such a beautiful woman, and I'm just like, you gotta stop, big clit. Dr. Tooth, sorry, sorry. She is such a beautiful woman.
And I'm just like, you gotta stop.
You gotta stop.
Fast track to Madonna.
She's on a fast track to Madonna.
We're gonna get, you can't tell.
I know, I'm gonna get murdered before I go home.
We're touching on all the people whose fandom
are the most toxic and hitting them one by one.
Now Taylor Swift.
I don't care about,
the face is whatever,
but it's just all the stuff.
Like, I don't want to see the lacy white cream camisole.
I don't want to see the,
you know, like the unbrushed hair.
That's the real you
and good for you.
But I want to see the,
you know, the femme fatale.
I mean, when she's good,
it's so good.
That cover photo for Lust for Life,
I mean, her beauty is just ridiculous
i mean she has beautiful hair flowers it's a big beautiful smile i mean come on also that one had
um high by the beach right oh yeah well that video was so good yeah just you? People have cut that with the opening of Kate's show.
Because it's that same like wispy like thing.
I've seen a couple of them.
It's like Caitlin when like such and such happens.
And then it's like.
I rode my bike down like the.
The Fiorucci Boulevard.
Yeah.
Like Redondo Beach, Manhattan Manhattan Beach Listening to Lust for Life
Yeah
And like the sun was setting
And I was on a little electric bike
And I was
I've never vibed so hard
My entire life
It was great
It's vibes as well
But now
But now it's just like
I mean when it's good
It's so good
Yeah
And if you like it
You'll love it
Because it's all the same
Yeah
And some of the
We always talk about
Some of the remixes People do for music are bops.
Amazing.
Oh, that summertime sadness.
Yeah.
So good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know the one.
Yeah.
Would she be your next character?
I would.
I think I would literally get murdered.
You would because you could.
You know.
You could.
Like you could do her.
I did her for one second in like a weird in like, I did a parody of the like Gal Gadot thing.
The like weird.
The Imagine?
Yeah.
Oh my God.
But we sang Black Hole Sun
and it was just a bunch of celebrities.
I did one of those.
I did a bunch of wigs and did the Imagine video
and it got removed from TikTok
cause they considered it bullying.
Are you kidding me? I'm dead serious. You know Gal's because they considered it bullying. Are you kidding me?
I'm dead serious.
You know Gal's publicist was like,
bullying.
Trixie called me fag, basically.
What the fuck was that fuckery?
That video?
That video.
When I think of COVID in 20 years,
I'm not going to remember people who have died.
I'm not going to remember masks.
I'm going to remember Kristen Wiig
staring at that camera and going,
it's easy if you try.
That was...
That was what made people go buy toilet paper.
That really kicked it off.
Yeah, exactly.
They're like, oh, this is serious.
It's over.
It's fucking over for us.
Like the shelves were stocked.
Everyone's skin was clear.
Nobody had been hospitalized.
That video came out. death to all of them.
Death to all of them.
Do you love Wendy Williams?
Yes.
Of course.
We keep talking about how the best part of that video,
once you've watched it a thousand times, is the,
oh, yes, she, yeah, it was like the conviction
and then the recoil.
Oh my God, no, she's incredible.
I like to save up like five episodes or so
and then just go into full psychosis. Wait, wait, let's take a break. Oh, let's. No, she's incredible. I like to save up like five episodes or so and then just go into full psychosis.
Wait, wait, let's take a break. Oh, let's take a break. Let's take a break.
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It's the death to all of them.
Oh, oh.
She is so, she's literally unfiltered.
It's just like, there's no, and I wonder if her producer's like.
But that's what I'm saying.
Again, the publicist putting out fires.
She went, oh.
The publicist went, oh.
I don't think there's a publicist.
I mean, I think that she is like a bonfire surrounded by bricks and people are just, you know.
Yeah, I think at this point it's like any of that just helps her.
Cancel proof.
She's cancel proof.
But they also could have removed it and didn't.
Well, exactly.
It's not live television.
It's not live on the scene.
Right, right, right.
Well, some of them are.
Really?
Live.
Yeah, totally.
When she fainted.
Oh, right.
Or the TikTok guy, like that gentleman's death.
Did you see?
Yes.
Oh, my fucking God.
That was.
I still can't believe.
I showed it to somebody yesterday or a couple of days ago.
And it's two minutes long, the setup.
Yeah.
And they were like getting bored.
And I was like, just keep listening.
And then she says, well, he was murdered this weekend.
I was like, it's unbelievable.
It's not funny. What is that? It's not funny. It's like crazy. well, he was murdered this weekend. I was like, it's unbelievable. It's not funny.
It's not funny. It's like crazy.
It's actually like worrisome.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She did the same thing when her own mom died. And she was
like, she was like, I was
talking to my mom the other day and
she was telling me if she really liked this dress
and yeah, so
she's dead.
She's been dead for about four months
and I just, you know, wanted to tell you now.
It's, I mean.
It's the new world.
People possibly.
Yeah.
Gal Gadot started it.
Wendy Williams is continuing it.
When you die.
Oh, it'll get back to normal.
I'm going to do imagine.
I'm doing imagine.
Oh my God.
Imagine all the pee holes.
Yeah.
It was so wild.
I just can't.
That kind of like out of touch.
It's like, okay, things are really bad.
Let's get all, let's sing.
We all sing part of a song.
And then.
Yeah.
What's that?
What's that mindset there?
Peace, this'll bring peace to people.
People want this.
Back to the Caitlin thing too,
the tax bracket thing makes certain things just not land.
Oh my God, you can't hide the mahogany sandalwood.
No, you can't hide your staff.
Do you remember the, I think,
no, you've been on Ellen, right?
No, no, that was, no, Patty was.
I, yeah, I have.
I'm her.
Well, I can't hide this anymore.
If you reveal to that little Blair St. Clair,
I will scream.
My name's Ellen DeGeneres,
and I've got something to say.
I thought she did good.
But do you remember,
it was like the first COVID picture of her
and she was on her patio
and this expansive land,
like cry eyes.
With the crying eyes?
Yes.
And it's just like,
like the Caitlyn thing is like,
when you're that rich,
you just need to consider the instrument
and consider what somebody making less than $15,000 a year is going to think when they
see that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's like.
It's wild.
Yeah.
It's wild.
If you feel like crying, like imagine how we feel.
Imagine how tired we are.
Imagine how tired we are.
Have you had any crazy celebrity run-ins?
Because when I'm in New York
I never see anybody
famous here
but in New York
people walk the street
yeah
well I've seen
I used to go to school
in the West Village
and I would see
Amy Sedaris all the time
and that was
good one
I mean you know
never talked to her
but she was just like
always like
just exactly
she was just fidgeting
with something
walking a dog
like that was always really cool.
Doing a character.
Yeah, yeah.
Pratt Balls.
Pratt Balls.
We were obsessed.
We were obsessed with At Home With Amy Sedaris.
What?
We were obsessed with At Home With Amy Sedaris.
At Home With Amy Sedaris was great.
I mean, Cola Scola is like girl, so incredible.
Chassie fucking Chassie, so good.
And by the way, I mean, almost no makeup on,
looks gorgeous as her.
Cole's incredible.
He has that, he's got the kids in the hall face
where like you just put on,
if you had this bang on, it'd be like, ma'am?
You know, it's like incredible.
Yeah, they're so good.
A few jokes too.
I love that show because they would do jokes
that obviously were everywhere at the end of the day going,
is this joke really important?
We have to set up this whole new shot
for us to lean over and see that the top of their heads are bald.
Oh, the like prosthetic of the balding head. Oh top of their heads are bald. It's like, yeah.
Oh, the prosthetic of the balding head.
Just all of that.
It's so worth it.
And then the finale with Michael Sheen.
Shannon, Michael Shannon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Charlie Sheen.
It was Charlie Sheen.
She's revealed to be Charlie Sheen.
Yes, and Denise Richards.
Yeah.
I think I told her about this.
I watched Beverly Hills all through during quarantine.
And there was this part where everyone was going like, well, Denise, it's like this.
Or like, I was in this magazine or something.
And it cuts to Denise Richards in a confessional.
She goes, sometimes I think that some of these women forget that I'm fucking Denise Richards.
I've been on every magazine any of them would ever dream of.
Oh, my God.
And it was so cut. Because it's like, you see her on The Real House of them would ever dream of. Oh my God. And it was so cut.
Because it's like,
you see her on The Real Housewives and everyone's in glam.
Yeah.
But she's always in jeans and a t-shirt.
Yeah.
And then you go,
well,
she's like the sloppy one right now.
But she's Denise Richards.
Yeah.
And they're not.
Why did she do it?
Why did she,
it feels like slumming it for her.
I'm sure it was fun and good money.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's a mom.
She's kids.
The first season she was on, she was like, tried to be like fun mom.
She was like, my husband's got a big dick.
Let's drink tequila.
Yeah.
And then the second season she was like, fucking no way.
Like you don't get to come in here.
The second season you could tell she watched.
She was over it.
She watched her first season was like, I need to button it up a little bit.
But then in the second season, all the girls were like, last season you were like wet and
wild and now you're trying to be like.
Yeah.
They would not let her forget.
Was she the one trying to conceal a secret lesbian affair?
Yes.
With Brandi Lanville.
Yeah.
Which who wouldn't?
Who wouldn't fuck Brandi Lanville?
I mean, come on.
Brandi, if you're watching this, gorgeous, stunning.
Yes.
We would all fuck you.
We would all want to fuck you.
Yeah.
We're just going to make you a lesbian.
It makes you human.
Mm-hmm.
Period. Period. Period. Yeah, all of us. We're just going to make you a lesbian. It makes you human. Mm-hmm. Period.
Period.
Period.
Period, boo.
So we've obviously seen the Tati Westbrook return to YouTube.
Oh, my God.
It's like better than I ever could have imagined.
So your next, next character is Tati.
I don't know if I could do that one.
You have to find a way.
You're like, I can't suspend that I could do that you have to find a way you're like I can't suspend
that level of
disbelief
within myself
no we did her
I mean we were
obsessed with her
on Nympho Wars
yes
you guys on
Nympho Wars
gave
Sucking Dick and
Cot
it was like
a BBC
Ken Burns
like
post doc
thesis
like
behind the music
behind music
deep dive into the drama.
And just to, like, fags that we knew and, like, trans girls that are obsessed with her.
Like, no actual professionals.
But it was very professional.
Just like, oh, so you took Halo?
Yeah.
Great.
Get down here.
We have a scientist here now.
Yeah.
I'm still like,
it was just so funny.
Me and my friend Andrew would listen to the studio and like,
just howling,
howling,
howling,
howling.
And it gets just,
it's so bizarre.
It's so bizarre.
This 40 year old woman and this 20 year old boy.
But you know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
yeah,
it was,
it's like,
it's still like mind-blowing
thinking that that
happened
and then the return
of her being like
well
uh
yeah
I am
definitely haunted
I broke up with my husband
there was a weird switch up
with the wedding ring
I sold it
I think
like
it's like
yeah
and close it
trying to close the door
to the spiritual realm
you know what's sad
I do watch makeup videos I make makeup videos the quality of her videos It's like, it's like. Yeah. And close it, trying to close the door to the spiritual realm. You know what's sad?
Good luck with that.
I do watch makeup videos.
I make makeup videos.
The quality of her videos, the sound of her voice,
the way she reviews product, I actually love it.
No, not it.
She is good at going,
these are the 10 best products from Revlon
you need to buy today and here's why.
Yeah.
She is good at her job.
And so when you focus on the quality,
it's like, she's amazing.
I mean, this is like free QVC in a way.
I've never seen a person talk, close the door,
shut the door on the spiritual realm
looking that well lit.
And she looks incredible.
Oh my God.
And she's a great makeup artist.
The makeup she does is beautiful.
Yeah.
It's just crazy that, again,
people are this close to being so great
and then the hard left things.
That whole thing.
I mean, I know James, I guess.
So I guess I'm biased.
But like, it's funny that like when you're gay hard left things. That whole thing, I mean, I know James, I guess, so I guess I'm biased,
but like,
it's funny that like when you're gay
and you hit on someone
who might be straight,
it's automatically an act of like
sexual assault.
Right, right.
Having a gay person flirt on you
is not the same.
Flirt on you.
I'm flirting on you.
I'm flirting on you.
Having a gay person flirt
is not the same as like...
Yeah, just wipe off your leg
They're not flirting in a way that's like
Over the line I don't know
She was like how dare you disrespect heterosexuality
I think was like her vibe
And I think that I mean
The emphasis is of not only sucking dick
But also cock
Sucking dick and cock That's another one I think the emphasis of not only sucking dick, but also cock. But also cock. But also cock. I can't forget about that.
Sucking dick and cock.
Yeah.
That's another one I think I said about 400 times.
And then the Nympho Wars episode just kept repeating.
Sucking dick and cock.
Sucking dick and cock.
Do y'all still do Nympho Wars?
We like, we stopped because of COVID.
And then like, we like tried to do like a,
we'll probably do this one.
You saw the Imagine video.
We saw the Imagine video. We saw the Imagine video.
We were like wrap up the popper.
Yeah.
The, the kill, where's the kill drag race.
Oh yeah.
The three, three part series.
That one's two parts.
Two parts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is a ride.
Girl.
That is a ride.
Can I get one of those soda cups full of mayonnaise?
Yeah.
That's, I mean, so I mean,
trying to explain.
So is it Theta?
Yes.
Theta goes on
Drag Race.
Uh-huh.
And then in...
Because I can't stop.
I'm infected with,
like, Drag Race lingo.
Oh, yes, because you
get the lingo, like,
oh, fierce, work hard.
And she can't...
It's so funny.
You go on Drag...
Theta goes on Drag Race
to kill RuPaul.
Right.
Yeah, and so that
the spell will be broken
and people don't have
to stop talking annoying anymore.
But then she's full of bugs.
Right, but she kills all the judges too.
Michelle, Carson, and Ross.
And I think she kills Carson
by finding him on Grindr in the hotel.
And I mean, it's just lunacy.
It's lunacy, it's lunacy.
And she has to sacrifice her best friend poop.
Poop shoot.
Poop shoot.
Yeah, shoot.
Because.
Also, the drive-through one, the number of fart sounds.
Oh my God.
Are you putting these in in real time?
Well, we've made them all with like oatmeal and like this.
You're kidding.
Oh no. Wow.
They sound so like a soundboard.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So at the end, Caitlyn Jenner is revealed to be one of the PAs or something.
And then gives the data a ride home.
But you have to stop by Jack in the Box to order some.
And it's like a 20 minute.
25 minutes of cheese products.
Yeah, just ordering pizza and sour cream.
Also, everything you ask for, they have.
Yes!
They never were like, no, we don't have that. I kept waiting for them to say no. And they never were like no they don't have that
I kept waiting for them to say no and they'd be like yeah we have that
like ricotta
cheese and shit like yeah we have that
like what
that's so funny
people have to listen
when you do your Kate videos do you go into it
I mean you obviously see something
do you see something she does and then go like I gotta do
my version of whatever that was?
Well, like I,
I try not to go with like the news cycle because it's like,
it's honestly like too fucked up.
Most of the time it's like too sad or,
or like, just like, you know, she's being a terror.
Yeah.
And so I like, I mean, I did the, the list one,
but like, I try to like only do it if I like,
think of something funny
that like my Kate would do.
Right.
Cause then it like stays fun.
Like I'm not trying to do like hard hitting satire,
like really like, you know,
make the people think with comedy.
It's like, no, you want to like hear sounds.
Yeah, you're not trying to like do a hot political take
on her already.
Right, gotcha Kate.
She got herself.
She got herself Gail.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
If anything, I feel like you're gonna have
a humanizing effect on her.
Yeah, I'm doing the other, I'm on her PR team.
So you did the Kate list of whether or not you're trans
had some that were, I mean.
I think I could probably list them all in order right now.
Apple Paltrow called you a target.
And then Jaden Durer Fierce.
When you said Jaden Durer Fierce,
I mean, my hands were blown up.
I was like Zelda and Poltergeist.
Like, just racket.
You have some evidence of you entering a Days Inn
dressed as Theresa May?
Like, what in the fight?
Sometimes you just fall over.
This is going to be so obnoxious, but I can't help it.
We just love it.
We love you.
We love you.
What are you doing here in LA?
So my stepsister was getting married in Palm Springs, and then I went to LA after.
Cool.
Oh, Palm Springs is lit, although- Literally. God damn, it's hot right now. It went to LA after. Cool. Oh, Palm Springs is lit
although
literally
God damn it's hot right now.
It's so fucking hot.
Yeah.
I mean, they're from Juneau
so they were just like
it was like
we're outside for 10 minutes
and then they ordered Domino's pizza
and like that was the wedding.
Oh, that sounds fantastic.
Yeah, it was fun.
That's a great wedding.
Yeah.
It's so beautiful though.
We love Palm Springs.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I can't do that.
I mean, it's 120.
I was just telling her I'm doing this motel renovation show there and because of permits they're like we might
have to push further into fall i'm like push it yeah do it push it push it all the way to august
yeah i was looking at the weather and it's it was like one in the morning in palm springs and it was
a hundred mary in no we were like in the parking lot at night
and you could like feel
it rising up from the
fucking sidewalk.
It was crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's yeah.
I don't know how Bianca.
Well,
that's how Bianca stays
so thin.
Yeah.
Her,
her place is fiercely
air conditioned,
honey.
But the bill,
Mary,
the electric bill.
I bet.
It's like $4,000.
I just got my air
conditioner fixed.
It's never been colder.
Oh yeah.
I was in my house.
Do people not have ACs in LA?
No, it's just mine was breaking consistently.
And so it got it finally fixed.
And when I come into my house now, I also keep all the windows closed during the day.
That's the killer.
Yeah.
You want your house to...
I mean, I'm in my house in multiple sweaters.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
My AC is blasting 24 seven.
24 seven.
24 seven.
Not a moment.
No.
Everybody knows, Tracy knows,
if we go somewhere and it's not air conditioned,
the mood in the room changes very quickly.
That's when the spirit starts to dislodge from the body.
I mean, it is rotten.
The door.
Yeah, yeah. I can, it is rotten. Yeah.
I can go from,
I can go from a Powerpuff Girl to Patsy Stone pretty quickly
as far as like demeanor.
When it's hot, I'm like.
Yeah.
I go from Lisa Kudrow
to the Crypt Keeper immediately.
But also it's just,
it's like a switch though.
Cause like if I feel it,
I'll be to sweat.
Yeah.
There's no going back.
It's like, cause then I just start to panic., there's no going back. Tick, tick, tick.
It's like, because then I start to panic.
You know, once it starts, it's like really hard to stop sweating unless you truly sit in air conditioning and don't move for 20 minutes.
Yeah, you have to take off the wig, like air it out.
When it gets hot, I turn into Michelle on the cover of her documentary.
Did you know this?
I haven't seen it yet. Michelle Visage on the cover of her documentary. I haven know this? I haven't seen it yet.
Michelle Visage
on the cover of her documentary.
I haven't seen the cover.
I'm going to show it to you.
She does a doc about
getting her breast implants moved.
And the cover they chose,
I haven't seen the film,
I'm sure it's great.
The cover they choose,
this is the cover.
But hold on.
She looks great, honestly.
She's gorgeous.
And I'm sure it's a really interesting film.
But it's so grim.
It looks like a Todd Haynes.
Yeah, yeah.
Palliative princess.
It's like so bad.
It's so grim and it's so like Michelle.
You survived.
It's seeking a friend for the end of the world.
Yeah.
It's really, it's so funny.
What is that?
A Fault in Our Stars about the sick girl?
Oh my God.
It's that.
It's next level.
You would think that this is a movie about stage four leukemia.
Did you see the Sarah Silverman on SNL thing where they were making fun of fault in our stars and all those like walk to remember movies?
No.
And it was like, it was like, yeah, it's like he's like, oh, you have cancer.
She's like, I have Ebola.
And he's like.
Never mind. Oh, yeah. Because in those movies, they never have something contagious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ebola and he's like Nevermind
Oh yeah because in those movies they never have something
Contagious obviously
Those movies make me very sad
Contagious movies?
No I watch any movie where it's like
Teenagers and it's like a budding romance
But one of them is horribly sick
I'm sucked in I watch them on the planes a lot
I'm just like oh
What was the movie something in Earl Earl and the Dying Girl?
Do you know that one?
Nobody?
Girl with the Dying Earring.
I just love the Dying Earring.
Crying on an airplane.
Yeah.
Crying on an airplane.
Yeah.
I mean, I love, what's the saddest movie
you've ever seen?
What's the one that makes you like?
Stepmom.
Step.
Stepmom is a little sad though.
It's so sad.
Is it really?
Oh, she dies.
Yeah.
Susan Sarandon. Yeah. And there's a part where- And oh she dies Susan Sarandon and there's a part
yeah there's a part
where she is talking
to her daughter
and just like
telling her I'm gonna die
yeah
or Solo
in the 120 days of Sodom
Shazam
Shazam
Shazam
Shazam
yeah I thought
of Space Jam 2
what else
Air Bud
Cloud Watchers
is pretty bad
oh my god
but Pitch Perfect
oh yeah
Pitch Perfect 2
that was a real tearjerker
I just watched all of those
during quarantine
I just
I made this wig
and I was just like
hand nodding
like watching Pitch Perfect
do you like acapella singing
love it
do you really
no
I hate it
it's like
yeah
well I don't hate I mean I don't hate, I mean, I don't know.
I don't think, I mean, shoot me in the eye,
but I don't think like acapella or like an acapella choir,
like a jazz choir, a swing choir or whatever.
I don't want to see that.
Why was that?
Why did that have such a moment?
I don't know.
Well, I mean.
Oh, I think it's retro white nostalgia.
Oh, OK.
It's also like that.
That was their their acapella was good because it was all about their creative mashups.
Right.
And mashups are such a big part of a mashup.
Yeah.
It was like EDM.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
Anna Kendrick.
I mean, the singing is beautiful.
There's some great singers in that movie.
Yeah.
I don't hate that movie.
Yeah.
I don't like singers.
So you have an album. Oh love me yeah the cover art stunning oh yeah well is there a real picture it's a real picture yeah i it's a i mean it's shopped but yeah like you're laid out and i
was like it almost looks like a drawing yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah um i, yeah, I mean, I got bottom surgery over quarantine.
So I was like.
Just might as well.
Letting it out.
You're like, I need to lever.
Everybody in your personal life, you're like, you're about to see this.
Yeah, this is my Gucci bag.
This is my Ferrari.
No shit.
Get used to it.
You're all about to see it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is it too crazy for me to ask about what that was like?
No, I mean, it was supposed to be a year.
It was supposed to be like next year.
Okay.
And they moved it to September 2020, and they told me in July.
You got a Disney Fast Pass?
I had to quit smoking.
I had to like cold turkey because you need like two months for your circulation. It doesn't heal right if you're smoking up until the day.
Are you an enthusiastic smoker?
So mid quitting, we're like, is this worth it?
It's like, I'll keep it.
No, but yeah, so I mean, it was at NYU.
It was totally paid for by New York Medicaid.
It was so incredible.
I don't know.
I got a really lucky break because I know someone who went to the same surgeon, same hospital the next week.
And they had a really fucked up recovery where they had to go back in.
But mine, honestly, three weeks later, it was like...
Perfect pussy.
You used up the last of the good energy.
Yeah, exactly.
You said, that's my friend.
I don't care what happens to her.
But this better be right.
You do a bump and get in there.
And you didn't have to travel for it.
I know a lot of girls have to do exotic trips.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, it was honestly, like, a staycation.
Yeah, it was, like, I was on the East River East River like in this crazy, just watching Moana over and over
again on like painkillers.
Like it was crazy.
What was the recovery period?
Three months.
Okay.
And then I got fucked for the first time on Christmas.
Work.
Like couldn't be like.
That is a fairy tale.
You're living a fairy tale life.
Charmed life.
Absolutely.
Damn. Yeah. Damn.
Yeah.
Wow.
Christmas came on time.
Yeah.
Also,
what an advantageous time to get it.
I know.
Girl,
what the fuck else is going on?
Yeah.
I wish I would've gotten more surgeries,
but I know I should get a pussy next time we go back.
If we go into lockdown again,
I'm going to get a pussy.
I'm going to smoke though.
I'm going to smoke.
I'll take my chances.
During the surgery. Is everything going good? Are we done? Yes. I'm tired smoke though I'll take my chances during the surgery
is everything going good
are we done
I'm tired
do you smoke cigarettes now
I do
when did you start
smoking cigarettes
13, 14
okay
how many cigarettes
do you smoke a day
average
13 or 14
I'm pretty
I'm like I'm like
I've cut down to like
maybe half a pack a day
oh that's great
do you smoke it all the way
to the filter
that depends
uh huh
yeah
sometimes I'll just take a few
and you know
me too
this one with her TV money
I've seen her take two puffs
and throw the damn thing
I would
yeah you know
it's like
because cigarettes
are famously expensive
she'll
oh we have to go back in?
Full cigarette.
Throw it.
Into a tree, into a dry tree.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I need dry brush.
Oh, yeah.
You have a collection of like dry leaves and garbage.
It's an orphanage.
No, I mean, it's like, I mean, they're famously expensive, but it's just, it's about the,
it's not even about the, I need a cigarette.
It's just that I need to get out of here for a moment.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
And sometimes it's just like a one or two can take you there.
Yeah.
It's the illusion.
It's like, I need to feel like I have some control over my life through this horrible thing that's going to kill me.
It's kind of, yeah, it's kind of like better if you, I don't know, if you are like, well, I'm probably never gonna quit forever.
So then I can stop for periods of time
and then get back to it.
I don't know.
It's like reading a book.
It's like reading a book.
Yeah, you put it down for a while.
You put it back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I quit for a couple years
and then I felt like I would never start again. Yeah.
And I sure did.
Well, when we did Drag Race for the first time, you didn't walk in a smoker.
Oh, ginger.
It was ginger.
This whore overnight turned back into like a pack of three.
Well, being on a TV show, I'm sure.
Yes, because for some reason still, and I don't know why, in life or in professional environments, it is acceptable to go have cigarette breaks. Yeah.
Whereas if a person is like,
I need,
I'm going to go look at the wall
or like I need to have my little muffin break
or my little,
nothing.
No,
you can't do that.
If I was in an office and I just said,
I'm going to go stand outside for 10 minutes.
It'd be like,
you need to get more serious.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You think this is a joke?
We're paying you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it's somehow acceptable for people to like,
yeah.
Like,
well,
I'm addicted.
It's like, well, yeah. Great. Don't want you to go. like well addiction yeah like well I'm addicted it's like well
yeah
great
don't want you to go off the rails
maybe you should go like to
they should you know
I just gotta go in the bathroom
and shoot up for 10 minutes
yeah we all know
how much I love
accommodating addicts
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Thank you, Macy, for joining us.
Let's have some more riveting conversation. Yeah. Let's take our questions for Macy. you, Macy, for joining us. Let's have some more riveting conversation.
Yeah.
Let's take our questions for Macy.
Hi, Macy.
Hi, Macy.
Yeah.
I have a question for Kate.
Kate, how many helicopters do you own?
Full size or mini?
Important distinction.
What's the difference?
Mini's like the size of a jar of mayonnaise.
Real size or standard Blackhawk down, you know.
Okay, and how,
you don't really have much experience in politics,
yet you are, you're running back.
That's what you'd think, but,
I'd say Fox News, Hannity, all that stuff.
You know, I've clocked in a lot of hours.
It's almost like a law degree.
Almost.
Kind of like a public service.
I don't know.
I tell a lot of people what I think.
Kind of like a politician.
What would be some of your policy uh
what's your platform well i've said over and over again we don't need health care we don't need
welfare we can put that back into um this train i'm working on this train that goes all the way around, up and down, it's going to be real good.
But, you know, we can't keep paying people's bills and keeping their lights on.
You know, they could just work at the train station.
I don't know what people are, what's wrong with people these days.
But, you know, they just got to, you got to put your back in.
days but you know they just gotta you gotta put your back in so but sometimes people you know uh kayla people you're born into money you know you have a lot of money and you're
oh i wouldn't go that far you know would you say that you're self-made
well you know i guess you'd have to give my doctor some of the credit but for the most part you know, I guess you'd have to give my doctor some of the credit, but for the most part, you know, my bank account speaks for itself.
I worked hard for that.
I ran a lot of laps, jumped a couple of times.
Oh, I have a question.
Do you think Sha'Carri, Sha'Carri?
Sha'Carri.
The athlete?
Oh, oh, oh.
Sha'Carri.
The athlete?
Oh, yes.
Recently there was a track and field athlete who was
suspended for smoking weed.
What do you think about that?
Do you think they should let her be at the Olympics?
In my day, we were smoking dope.
We were rolling doobies
and nobody really knew about it.
They didn't have CSI back then.
So I feel bad for her.
But, you know, I guess you've got to be careful.
These kids are taking nudes and stuff on their phone.
I just, you know, I don't know what to say.
I'm really sorry for that gal.
Have you ever sent out a nude?
Well, it was more of a sketch.
And I think it was unsolicited, but it never resurfaced.
I kept saying it.
Is it Shikari?
Is that how you say it?
Shikari.
Shikari.
Obviously respect the athleticism.
Electing to run
in a wig
in nails
in nails
in lashes
long long lashes
right
welcome back
long
oh my god
where did you go
she's in the bathroom
sorry
how does she
I mean
I mean
I know
I mean
that was such a
tragedy
that she
got disqualified
like just
I mean it's fucking legal everywhere.
Like, what?
Like, change the rule.
Can you drink alcohol and be the Olympics?
Of course.
Do they test your blood for alcohol?
Well, you...
I mean, but that goes away in, what, a matter of hours.
But, I mean, marijuana doesn't do worse things to your body than alcohol.
So that's what's backwards from the athletics viewpoint.
It's like, marijuana's not making anyone a better athlete.
No, it's anything. It's, marijuana is not making anyone a better athlete.
No, it's anything.
It's like more impressive if you smoke.
Yeah. Yeah.
She did that.
Yeah.
She ran the fastest and she's got a huge Coke problem.
You know, it's like, that's, that's like different.
Yeah.
I'll be out in a minute.
You know, that's different.
Yeah.
It's not fucking steroids.
Like what is the issue?
I don't know.
Yeah.
There's the whole, I mean, but I guess it's like more a morality clause or something
like that.
I don't know.
She's also not white, which is a huge part of it.
There are three athletes recently to be banned from them because none of them are white folks.
Yeah, it feels super targeted.
It's hard to get necessarily like an informed decision or like POV on it because I know so little about
Yeah
That's why we're so good at talking about it. That's what
I I don't ever claim to be right. I just like talking
If you could if you could be the best in the world at any sport for a year would it be
Um, I used to be on the swim team. I love swimming. Okay, but I'm not good at it anymore If you could be the best in the world at any sport for a year, would it be?
I used to be on the swim team.
I love swimming.
Okay.
But I'm not good at it anymore.
No.
So, yeah. What was the swim team like?
In high school?
Yeah.
It was fun.
Do you guys listen?
Because I always think I've never, I can't really even swim.
When people swim laps.
Really?
Not really.
Oh.
When people swim laps like that, you obviously don't have headphones in.
Yeah.
You're just, do people like it?
Sometimes they play music in the pool.
What?
Like under the water, yeah.
How do you do that?
I don't know.
They have speakers down there.
You just plug it in and throw it in the water?
Yeah, I got my iPod.
Huge toolbox, just drop it in with the kids in the water.
Yeah, it follows.
I loved that movie.
That's so fucking good.
That was a really good one. It's so good. That's so fucking good. That was a really good one.
It's so good.
That movie got me together.
That's the one where you have to fuck.
You got to fuck someone to get rid of it.
To get rid of it.
Yeah, it's like an STD demon.
STD demon.
Or is it a parable about something?
Well, in my life, when you have an STD,
fucking people does not get rid of it.
Let me tell you.
Oftentimes spreads it.
Oh, and then the naked man on the roof.
Yes.
That was the great shot.
And the part where she's in high school
in class daydreaming
and she sees the woman walking across the...
Chilling.
It's a chilling like...
So scary.
Or the woman just comes in
and she just starts pissing all over the floor
in the kitchen.
Yeah.
I felt like that movie was a read of me
for like my future.
It's like...
You never get STIs.
No, no, I'm the people.
Like I'm the naked man on the roof.
I'm the woman pissing.
I'm the-
It'd be so fun to play one of those.
I would, I would die.
Yeah. It would be so great.
Yeah. Yeah.
But we work at Netflix.
We're always like, give us some walk on,
like Sabrina demon role in the back.
Let's just let us be gross for a second.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cause we're so used to being gorgeous.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, you know, it's hard when you get.
Really stretch it.
I would love to make my dream,
like my Hollywood dream would be like,
try to do gigs until I'm 60, I'll finally get one,
and it'll be like a Hannibal Lecter,
like bit parts or something like that.
I can't wait to be like,
on like unhuman, either very old and haggard
or so much surge
that I'm just like,
I wouldn't think you would.
Can only play like weird David Lynch characters.
David Lynch characters, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't look 31 though.
What is, you're 31.
Maybe 25, maybe?
You're 31.
Really?
Yeah, I'm 31 and we're on different trajectories here.
Well.
You look like the cheese in the fridge
you buy to replace the old cheese in the fridge you buy to replace the old cheese in the fridge.
I look like the old cheese in the fridge.
I've just recently gotten into injectables, like a lot.
Are you popping off?
I've been going off, yeah.
Now do you count-
I'm almost at that level.
Do you count that as work done?
Cause I feel that in LA people go,
I haven't had anything done,
but then they're pumped to hell and it's like,
well. I do, cause I mean, I mean, well, I don't know. No, I don't think. I don't think. People go, I haven't had anything done, but then they're pumped to hell and it's like, what? I do, cause I mean, I mean, well, I don't know.
No, I don't know.
I get Botox, but I never feel like that.
Does that count?
That doesn't count.
I wanna think when,
I just think of work done as going under the knife.
Do veneers count?
That's going under the knife.
Veneers count.
But that's a dental thing.
Yeah.
I love your veneers.
I want, I want veneers i love them they're
so cool i didn't think i had bad teeth i guess living in delusion but i i liked my teeth and
then my doctor my doctor was like oh i saw you on tv you're doing veneers oh my god so then they
give me the temper and you know why i knew i had bad teeth when they grabbed the video camera to
show me in the mirror.
I was like, okay, my teeth are so bad that this is worth.
What do you mean?
They grabbed a video camera
to watch me react to my own teeth.
And that's when they were done.
I'm on like a Tyra meth makeover situation.
Oh shit.
Oh my God.
They're like, you're gonna wanna remember this.
Yeah, they're like, we need a viral tear moment.
I didn't know I was ugly.
That kind of thing. You know what, I did cry though. You did cry? I liked my teeth, but when I saw these, I were like, we need a viral tear moment. I didn't know I was ugly. You know what?
I did cry, though.
You did cry?
I liked my teeth, but when I saw these, I was like, ah!
It was like, I just felt like, I don't know what.
Nice teeth are such a luxury.
I think of rich kids in high school who had Invisalign.
Yeah, could never get braces.
Braces.
They're too expensive.
Yeah.
They are very expensive. They're like $2,000. Girl, Invisal get braces. Braces. They're too expensive. Yeah. They are very expensive.
They're like $2,000.
Girl, Invisalign was seven.
What?
$7,000.
Does it, it works?
And my teeth work.
My teeth are $2,600 a tooth.
And I got eight.
That's the thing.
Yeah, that's, it's crazy.
But I also did Invisalign first
to straighten the bottom row.
So it was like that.
Oh, okay.
It is, this is my Prius.
Yeah.
My teeth are my car.
But this will last
the last eight or ten weeks.
Yeah.
As long as you stay with
and when I did
with the bar fighting I do.
I did Jimmy.
I had the temporaries on
and then I did Jimmy Kimmel
that night.
What do you mean the temporaries?
So because they make your teeth
like overnight,
the ceramic real teeth. So you have the little shaved down. No, they put the temporary? So because they make your teeth like overnight, the ceramic real teeth.
So you have the little shave down.
No,
they put a temporary cone head nubs or no,
they took pepper.
So like overnight while someone overnight makes them,
they put a temporary cap on your teeth so that they look normal,
but you can't really chew hard food.
And I'm getting in drag.
And I guess when I get in drag,
I grind my teeth and I didn't know that.
So I'm putting makeup on,
getting ready for Jimmy Kimmel.
And I hear a snap and my front't know that. So I'm putting makeup on, getting ready for Jimmy Kimmel and I hear a snap
and my front two teeth
just crumble off.
Yeah, so I call
the dentist's office
and I go,
I have to go to Jimmy Kimmel
in an hour
and I don't have front teeth.
And they were like,
okay, well.
I don't think I've heard this before.
I can't believe I haven't heard this before.
Just the bottom snapped off.
So, I mean,
it wasn't so noticeable.
Like, it might have,
okay, it would have been fine,
but by the way,
I'm so contrary.
I'm like,
the front two teeth are missing.
It wasn't bad. It was fine. By the way, I'm so country. I'm like, the front two teeth are missing. It wasn't bad.
It was fine.
It was cool.
It wasn't noticeable.
I looked like a hot girl from Florida.
From Panama City Beach.
And so then they come to,
my dentist assistant and the other assistant
come to my house and I'm in drag in my makeup room
and they're gluing the teeth back on.
Oh my God.
Damn.
It's acrylics.
It's press-ons.
Entirely. That was my plan B.
Well, I just saw my dad for the first time in a long time
and his teeth, I swear to God, are like shorter than,
they like have shrunk.
I'm like, you're chewing on rocks or something?
What is happening?
Maybe he's filing them down at night.
Yeah.
He's like, Macy, it's nice to see you.
You're like, what is up with your teeth?
What is wrong with you?
Teeth are tough.
Get veneers before you try to talk to me.
Yeah, I'm fully pumped right now.
You couldn't get up to veneer?
I think my teeth are going to fall out one day all at once.
I think it's just going to be like, great, great, great, great.
You don't have veneers, do you?
No, no.
Let me get you into this.
Yeah.
Lifelong smoker.oker like chemical drug user
i mean just sugar addict i mean my teeth are not perfect but i've never had a cavity i mean either
yeah mary it's crazy meth smoking everything literally yeah everything no water yeah this is
the first water i've had all month yeah it's crazy and like, I haven't, I went to seven years without going to the dentist once.
And then I went, I was like,
it's going to be the wrecking ball.
They're going to say, okay,
we'll make an appointment for the wrecking ball
to smash your face and just nothing, no cavities.
My mom got gingivitis and like had to get
the whole thing.
Plaster or whatever, teeth, like the shit one.
Plaster.
Plaster. Drywall. She tried to make them herself. Plaster or whatever. Teeth. Like the shit one. Plaster. Plaster.
Drywall.
Dry stuff.
She had to make them herself.
It was plaster again.
I walked in the kitchen
and she had ripped up
newspaper and glue
and I said,
what am I doing?
Yeah, they just went to Skittles
and then threw it
in the paper mache.
She had a bag of white M&M's
and I was like,
what are you doing?
But the veneers
are tough too though
because sometimes
they're so blindingly white
and so perfect
that it's like
Well
they told me some rules
they said you're not
supposed to go
too much whiter
than the whites
of your eyes
So I should do
like a red?
Yeah
A grey brown
Grey red
Yeah
Well I told them
I said I wanted
Wisconsin white
so LA gray.
Because I brought in pictures of drag race queens and said, this is what I don't want.
Yeah.
This is also what I don't want.
Oh, my God.
Because the labels are jacked.
They're blue.
Blue-white tiles just perfectly in a row.
It's crazy.
And also being bald and a little old-looking, I've seen old, Caucasian, rich gay men who
have two youthful of teeth.
And it's Friday, it's five nights at Freddy's.
It's too much.
I love it.
It's so good.
When people have like, I think Taylor Swift got teeth
like around 1989 era.
And they were just, they looked like those like,
the like good toy teeth that like chomp up and down.
She should have wrote,
you need to calm down before getting this tooth. To. She should have wrote you need to calm down before getting this to you.
To our dentist.
Yes.
You need to calm down.
It's nice
because you see them
having to like
close their mouth.
You know what I mean?
Like they have to like
Yeah.
They have to learn
how to talk again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
New challenges.
I think Fifi O'Hara
when we did All Stars 2
she had gotten her teeth
like maybe days
before she left and she was like still kind of
trying to settle into them like couldn't close her mouth right you know she had like
although i got eight of them and the dentist told me she was like when you get your teeth done and
it changes your speech considerably it's because they're not good veneers that's what she said she
said that it shouldn't change her she said they shouldn't take up that much more space in your mouth.
They should be really like...
The same.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
But maybe that's just her being uppity.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe.
Yeah.
I saw that your friend can't talk.
Cheap.
You know, I don't know.
Your ugly, poor friend.
Yeah.
I saw that they wanted to look like a rich person.
If it was up to Caitlyn, everyone would have veneers.
Yeah, that's true.
In a helicopter.
Yeah, that's her foray into socialized medicine.
Yes.
Yeah, we'll get your teeth.
Veneers and tits, yeah.
Instead of Smile Club, the smile train where they're fixing hair lips,
she's in the Serengeti giving people veneers.
No drinkable water.
No food. She's buying a dentist and giving people veneers. No, no, no drinkable water.
No,
she's flying in dentists and giving people veneers.
Yeah,
and like microdermabrasion.
Lashes.
Lashes.
Latisse.
Latisse.
Oh my God.
All right.
Well,
I think we should probably wrap it up.
We are,
we are so fortunate to have you.
Oh my God.
Thank you so much for coming.
I'm such a fan.
Would you ever come back? We just, I had a you. Oh my God. Thank you so much for coming. I'm such a fan. Would you ever come back?
I had a blast.
I don't know.
That's like when you have a hookup
and you go,
we should do this again.
And whether or not the person wants to,
they have to go,
yeah, sure.
Yeah, yeah.
Let me get your number.
I'll find it somewhere.
I think I saw you on Instagram.
I've had hookups where I go,
I would love to do this again.
And then she pointed out to me like,
that doesn't mean anything,
cause of course they're gonna say yes in front of you.
Yeah, nobody's ever gonna be like,
like forcefully confrontational to your face.
Like actually, this was not that great for me.
Funny you should ask.
Yeah, yeah.
Would you do this again?
Absolutely not.
Yeah, like no fucking way,
you fucking cheap tooth monster.
Someone lied to her several times. This was so fun. Yeah, we, no fucking way, you fucking cheap-tooth monster. Someone lied to her several times.
This was so fun.
This was so fun.
Tell the children where they find you online.
Oh, yeah, at Macy Rodman on Twitter and Instagram.
And my next single is called Rock and Roll Gay Guy.
And it's coming out on August 5th on Accidental Popstar Records.
Yes!
And go stream Love Me.
It's a great song.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was Rainbow Spotlight of the Week.
It's gorge.
Yeah.
Big poolside energy.
Poolside vibes.
Yes, yeah.
If you give body,
oddie, oddie,
leg, leg, leg,
it is so great in the videos.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Yeah, and good luck
with the governor's race.
Thanks.
Thanks, girl.
Bye! Vote! Vote! Rock the vote! And good luck with the governor's race. Thanks. Thanks, girl. Bye.
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