The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - Witch Goddess of the Woods with Pearl
Episode Date: March 30, 2021From a mysterious cabin in the remote wilderness comes a guest with beauty credentials that are truly unprecedented in the history of the podcast. The otherworldly deity of the forest, also known as P...earl, joins Trixie and Katya for an amazing conversation about beauty buses, glitter secrets, the magic of wilderness weed, and the joys of avoiding humanity. Check out our show and many hilarious other pods featured on Stitcher's first-ever Comedy Week! In app or at: Stitcherapp.com/comedy Follow Pearl: @pearliaison Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To listen to our podcast on YouTube: http://bit.ly/TBATBYT Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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slash legal slash ca dash pru dash disclaimer for info on Kraken's undertaking to register in Canada. Welcome to another riveting episode of The Bald and the Beautiful featuring Trixie Mattel and myself.
That's right.
Who are you?
It's party time. I'm Katya.
Okay.
Did I not mention that?
No, you did. Thank you.
No, thank you.
We are in episode, I don't know, 1520?
1520, 75, who knows? Who's counting?
Because we don't got time to count because we're just on the run.
We're making money moves.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And today we have a guest that honestly, probably the most qualified people to ever speak about beauty.
That's true.
We have, and listen, that is among a very dense roster of extremely qualified beauty people.
Yeah.
And this one, it's a deep field.
It's a deep field.
Somebody we had to hunt down.
I have.
You don't even know the paper trail, the breadcrumbs, the machinations, the schemes and the scams that I've enacted in order to wrangle this guest for the good.
I mean, I would say the better part of 16,
17 months,
even before it was a text.
It was a text.
Let's get it straight.
I had,
I put in a text.
I had written a letter.
I read the letter over the text.
It was a whole,
it was,
it was a lot.
It was 17 to return phone calls.
And finally I got in contact with her family.
And then they just, they gave me her personal number.
And then here we are with Pearl.
Pearl.
Thank you so much for being here, Pearl.
How are you?
I'm good, sis.
Thank you.
Thanks for having me.
I feel like not very qualified to be here, but here I am.
Are you kidding?
No, listen.
The potency of your artistry and your talent just so irrelevant
but here i are here i am with oh relevance relevance in the face of beauty nothing nothing
i just had i don't even know where to start because you are somebody whose work since we
met you has truly been actually something i give a fuck to follow if you don't mind we're gonna
lick your ass for just a few moments. Yeah, I agree.
Honestly. Yeah, yeah.
What have you been up to?
I don't know.
I've been
kind of doing the housewife
thing, but also just
the... I don't know. I feel like
I'm in a secret window just working on
my art in this cabin
in the woods, i'm also like married
so i don't know just vary that i envy your life oh girl these i really do these like um witch
goddess of the woods pictures you have the nerve to post oh my god oh you forgot to like and comment
this new thing you're doing with your eye too like the two semi-circles
like above and below and there you have you've been doing this highlight that looks like the
morticia adams light do you know what i'm talking about when in the adam's family when morticia
adams is that like cross beam across her eyes of light it has that effect it's really really cool
thank you yeah the eyes are kind of new. Honestly, they do. I do kind
of look like Steve Buscemi before the lashes go. What did you say? What did you say?
She looks like Steve Buscemi before the lashes.
Who is very beautiful. We stan. Yes, of course. But do you do like a soft or no bottom liner sometimes, right?
No, like I have to do a bright white like waterline.
Okay.
The individual lashes, just it's a must.
But no dark underline?
No, I will do a line like under the white.
Under the white, okay.
Under the white, yeah.
But I do like to keep it blank as well.
I have never been able to do that.
You're on the younger side of life.
Are you 30 yet?
She's 30.
30.
Okay.
But you're just 30.
I was going to say, because for a woman of his...
Oh.
It's so simple, but effective.
The two kind of like lines.
Okay.
So we're looking at one of your latest photos right now.
Yeah.
So you have that, the waterline white, and then you have a graphic line with the bottom
lashes, the individuals, and then another sort a graphic line with the bottom lashes the individuals
and then another sort of accent line
underneath that is like she's young enough to be
drawing lines around the eyes
if I tried to draw a graphic
line underneath my eyes
it would look like fucking
palliative like palliative care
I don't have perfect skin under my eyes
it's just technique
come up she up to the
mountains she said i'm just as ugly as you i'm just a better makeup artist you fucking oh no i
didn't say that were you i was talking with andrew about that would you would you do my makeup pearl
i would love to okay i'm coming up the mountain i'm coming up the mountain this weekend i'm like
an hour and a half i think she can tackle this yeah i She does ceramics, so I think she can tackle this. Yeah.
I said she does ceramics, so I think she can tackle this, right?
I want to be a lady of the woods, lady of the lake.
Will you do that for Ruru?
It's definitely a vibe.
It's definitely a vibe.
I wouldn't have it any other way.
But yeah, we are like sitting on this nomadic journey, though, in this bus that we're building. So we'll always come back here as like a home base.
We really found like,
like where we want to be at least for a while for now.
Yeah.
Are you near deep Creek?
Until eventually we buy property.
Are you near deep Creek?
Is that where you were on your Instagram the other day?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
I'm like a 20 minute drive from deep.
Oh my God.
I had the time of my life there. I had the time of my life there.
I had the time of my life there.
Did you go in through the north or the south
entrance?
We went down to enter
because coming back up,
Mary, Mary. Yeah,
it's everything. It was
like four runyons.
Yeah, you have to take
breaks. Yeah, bring lots of snacks. You know what they said it was going to take an hour? We did it in 35 fucking minutes. Yeah, you have to take breaks. Yeah, bring lots of
snacks. They said it was going to take an hour. We did it in
35 fucking minutes. Oh, nice.
Well, did you go in, though, through
the North Hike or the South Hike?
I don't know. Because the South Hike is
brutal, but you probably went in through the
North Hike because that's where the tourists come in.
The way we exited was the most
brutal hike I've ever been on in my life.
Yeah. Anyway, the creek, though, is amazing.
And the hot springs are amazing.
Dick's Balls and Pussies.
Yeah, we go there often.
Yeah, it was beautiful.
I mean, honestly, you're probably the first guest where I haven't had to brief myself on your career because I truly watch everything you do.
Oh, my God.
And if you're comfortable, can you tell us a little bit about the bus?
I just watched that today, by the way.
Holy crap.
So in your husband is very handsome.
Yeah.
He is gorgeous.
Yeah.
And so nice.
Oh my God.
He is honestly,
yeah.
I don't,
I have no idea why he's into me.
Like I'm like a fucking serrated edge of a fucking butcher knife.
And personality wise compared to him and he's like
this super gentle like like i honestly don't know why he is still with me because i'm so
fucking rotted in comparison to him but anyway it's just like he makes me look in a lot. But yeah, we are building our bus.
It's pretty glamorous.
I don't know.
I've just always been interested in tiny houses,
and I've always wanted to build a van or something.
So just with COVID and everything,
the opportunity presented itself,
and it was a good time,
and we're up here.
We live two minutes
from a lumber yard so oh that was my first thought is living where you live i'm like how do they get
all these you got a lot of tools ho you're gonna stand right there and it's on everything literally
we just drive through like five minutes through this little forested area and there's a lumber
yard right there so it's like weird everything's i hate to say it because so many people are struggling but it's been like a really
beautiful year you know just being able to take a breath not like give a shit about traveling and
social media and blah blah blah just be like focusing on myself you know yeah my relationship
and my life, you know?
So it's been good.
If anybody has a moment, Pearl's YouTube, Pearl Bazaar,
besides the makeup videos and the character of Roxanne,
which we will get to.
Yeah, oh yeah.
It's not just the renovation of the bus.
It's the fact that you're doing it by hand
and the fact that you can tell as a viewer
that you are winging it.
Yeah.
Oh, we are.
We are, we totally are.
You're not like Bob Biel,
but it comes out great.
Everything just designs itself after a while, really,
because you just run into so many limitations
as you're building.
So eventually it's like,
okay, well, we can't do that,
so this is the only option.
And then you just kind of work around it.
I don't know.
It's really cool.
It's amazing.
And it's fun.
The hand-painted trees
like hand-done wallpaper effect oh we didn't have any trees but you did what are those little trees
on the walls in the bus no we have like we have like a hawaiian print behind our storage doors
like we made these store our wardrobe doors and they have like a, like a vintage Hawaiian behind it.
So maybe that's what you're thinking.
It's just crazy what you're doing.
So when you're done with it,
your hope and dream is to basically be like nomadic.
Well,
for a while,
but ultimately we want to buy some property and then just start building out
like a little bit of an oasis for us and family.
And then eventually,
you know,
Jeremy has like this Reiki practice and he does like all this healing stuff.
So,
and he has a,
like a small,
but loyal clientele.
It's all he really needs to work.
So,
you know,
they can come to the experience,
come and experience the oasis and it can be like you
know like a business kind of thing as well so that's cool how exciting when you downsize when
you're going to be hitting the road are you going to bring drag and yes no i'm going to be like
doing drag and you know the desert and the woods and by the river. Girl, it's a rebrand.
We're working this rebrand, sis.
No, it's not only a great rebrand because it's cool.
It's also a great rebrand because I don't think other drag queens are striving to have things like limitations.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Well, I need this, girl.
Like, I've had a couple of slumpy years, so I need like,
now what for you is a slumpy year? What for you is a slumpy year? What do you, what do you mean
by that? Um, well, you know, just like existential crisis, not knowing who I am, what I'm doing,
if I even love drag or like, I like definitely knowing I don't, I can't do it full time. I don't have the stamina or the financial resources, you know, with what I'm willing to do, like travel wise.
And I don't know, I just couldn't, I couldn't like get ready in dusty basements across the world anymore.
You know, you guys know.
Yeah, we know.
Yeah.
We've all been, we've all been miserable on the road.
We've all been we've all been miserable on the road and like nothing that you can do or say can change that fact you know like we're all faking it most of the time we're on the road i think that's for me as somebody who consumes your content though
that's part of the appeal to me is that it's refreshing to see somebody who is getting in drag only when they want.
Yes.
Oh yeah.
Very,
very.
I,
cause I really,
really am.
I'm not,
I'm, I'm inspired,
but I'm also reassured by your presence in drag because I know that you're
only doing it if you want to.
Well,
well,
like there's like this part of me that really really loves fucking drag you know like
i'll always love it and i'll always love the art of transformation yeah and when i don't do it for
a while i do start to miss it yeah me too so um but yeah there's also this element of just keeping
up with the fucking joneses okay like when there's all these plastic tiaras and freaking
Gigi. Well, that's a losing battle.
Oh, right. Okay.
It's like, just...
Kim traveled with...
Kim traveled with plastic for a while.
She said it just made her want to quit.
Yeah, half of them I wouldn't
even take a picture with. Not because I don't like them,
but because I don't want to look like
fucking a toad.
Are you on tiktok pearl uh no like i said i can barely log into my email so i can like i'm just figuring out instagram
stories okay i'm not on tiktok yet if anybody hasn't but i did i did kind of like ban tiktok
a little bit though like with all of the the like protests and everything that were happening last year. TikTok, there was like a scandal with TikTok. And I honestly can't even think of what it is right now. But I was like, fuck TikTok. I mean, there's a big public post about it. And I just kind of can't go to TikTok.
Great. Stay away. That's my advice. But I feel like I was doing TikTok before TikTok
came around, you know, I was doing nothing but making these 30 second long videos on Instagram
and they were, you know, kind of interesting, but also kind of weird to be on Instagram,
which wasn't really working. And then TikTok came along and I was like, okay, this is probably where
I should be featuring this content. And then, you know, I fucked myself.
Yeah. I love your content is so varied too. Like the video of you building that waterfall where I should be featuring this content. And then, you know, I fucked myself.
Yeah.
I love, your content is so varied too.
Like the video of you building that waterfall in your house.
Oh yeah.
It's like very random, isn't it?
We just like, like to do fun projects together.
We wanted to hear some running water.
So we decided to make a waterfall.
It's really fierce. And which I think you built it from like styrofoam styrofoam and cement yeah
well we met in hawaii yeah we really styrofoam and cement yeah it's really cool wow so we met
in hawaii and we go to hawaii well we did go to hawaii a lot before you know pandemic and
waterfalls are a thing.
We always try to hike waterfalls, waterfalls, waterfalls.
So we were here
and we just wanted
to, like, get into that fantasy because
we're obviously not near any waterfalls.
Right. Do you, are you, is it lonely
up there in the mountains?
Hell no. No.
She's like, it's not lonely
enough.
Who do I, like, it's not lonely enough. Miss,
who do I miss?
Amy,
Amy still finds her about every three weeks up in the mountains,
hunts her down.
Oh my God.
She does.
Yeah.
Amy is pretty much like the only one that visits me regularly,
but.
Can I seriously come up?
No,
I don't,
I don't ever miss anybody.
That's great.
Sometimes I tell Jeremy,
like you got to go for a night or two,'m just kidding you're gonna get a hobby bitch yeah
do you um so you moved to l you're in new york you moved to la here for a time then you moved
up in the mountains how long were you in la for about a year a year and then you were like fuck
this i need to go to the mountains yeah well my rent was just so high and my rent in new york was just as high and i thought i would move here and be saving money
and i thought it would be more peaceful but i found like a really great apartment in las filas
which you know is obviously a very expensive part of town and yeah i just couldn't afford it
and i didn't want to afford it you You know what I mean? So, um,
I took Jeremy up here on one of our first dates,
like when he moved back here from Hawaii and yeah,
it just popped in my head.
Like,
why don't we just move there?
It's only an hour and a half away from the city,
you know,
on a bad day in traffic.
And my rent is like the cheapest rent I've ever paid in my entire adult life really
and it's just like everything they got grocery stores up there girl yes okay like really fancy
like chic little markets it's all like thrift stores antique stores and is it like two
yeah but there's also there's also liberals and there's
a lot of like queer people
yeah when I was there
when I was there at Christine McConnell's
house over by Pearl I was
shocked at the number of like looks like a
hippie colony and then Trump sign and
then like it's very high low
it was wild yeah I noticed that too
at a certain point like driving
to and back from the deep creek, I was like, where the
fuck are we?
Yeah.
Are we in Montana?
There's this one road that we call Arian Alley because there's like five Trump flags that
you cross as you're driving down.
Yeah.
And our neighbors are kind of bullshit, but it's like really quiet and peaceful.
So you just, I don't know, like it doesn't bother me.
It's like, whatever. Right. What am I going to do like it doesn't bother me it's like whatever what am I gonna do
like not live up here because
there's Trump supporters around like whatever
you can't go anywhere then
you know what one of those Republicans is gonna be
there's Trump supporters in LA
honestly yeah one of those Republicans is gonna be walking
through the woods one day and they're gonna spot
a beautiful white witch
crawling through the snow and their whole mind
is gonna change
it's already happened.
Well, I don't know about the mind changing part.
You're out there in furs
and they're about to shoot. They think you're
an animal.
They see Roxanne. Oh my god, we have
to pivot. Before we pivot to Roxanne,
can I ask about some of your celebrity
transformations? You've done an incredible
Sarah Jessica Parker.
Oh yeah.
And an amazing Drew Barrymore. Have either transformations you've done an incredible incredible sarah jessica parker oh yeah yeah
and an amazing very more have either like noticed yeah drew very more shared it on her page and this is crazy um she actually reached out and asked me to come and do her makeup at her house. So it was crazy because I just landed in LA.
I was living in New York at the time.
And I'm like, yeah, she lives in Malibu.
Of course I can make the time to go do it.
Of course.
So I rearranged my whole schedule.
And the next morning, and it's ironic because you know who was my manager at the time,
but he calls me and he's like, I'm so sorry, drew barrymore had to cancel she's not feeling well today and i'm like
oh well that's too bad and then like four or five hours later she posts a picture on her instagram
riding around in a car with cameron diaz like no makeup hashtag no makeup, hashtag no makeup day. Hashtag.
And I was just like,
I got duped like because of Cameron Diaz and I live.
Yeah.
Like that's honestly,
could you blame her?
I mean,
what if she was running around with James Charles?
Right.
Yeah.
So before we talk about Roxanne, we have to take a break.
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And we're back. We're back with Pearl. Can we talk about probably one of the most exciting
things I've ever seen somebody do with their drag? Yeah. Roxanne. roxanne i've seen every video multiple times yeah i've i've watched
i've watched i've watched the videos i get something new every time a new joke every time
yeah and you so you do everything you you obviously do all the makeup you put a full
face on top of another face and then on top of prosthetics and you just edit you do all the
editing yourself
and upload it yourself it's treacherous work how did you come up with it must be done
it's treacherous work but it must somebody has to do it well i was just coming into like
my youtube career my budding youtube career and um i just knew that i couldn't be traveling anymore so i was like
maybe i can get into youtube like james charles is obviously super rich and famous like if i could
have one percent of that you know what i mean and i would just sit down and do these youtube videos
and i'd have like an out-of-body experience like this is so fucking gay you know what i mean like i cannot do this so she just i felt like roxanne
like sitting there trying to do it i'm like i have way too many stories i am way too bent and
broken to be like playfully putting on blush and lipstick like it's not going out so i just like
i just took the storyline and like turned it into this character who has like been through it all.
She like dragged her body through broken glass to get to this laptop to edit this YouTube video and just like be fake.
And like, you know, just what is on YouTube basically.
Really?
That's what I like about it.
It's this very like studied and astute critique
on influencer
beauty people. Yeah.
It takes the
sans-fard, no makeup look
and pushes it to
a grotesque extreme.
But then the result though, once
you take your makeup artistry and
actually put a face on that. She's
stunning. Stunning. It really does turn out stunning. She's beautiful. you like you take your makeup artistry and like actually put a face on that she's stunning stunning
i mean it does turn out like stunning like she's beautiful even though like not joking though do
you really lose use the sally henson leg spray as the foundation yeah it's everything we get it we
get it we have to include a clip can we um include a clip of um an audio clip of the yeah okay there
is this amazing clip i love about the time she's talking
about falling off the boat and it's the guns
and roses and she's like if you know me
you know that's my song
I watched that
also when she takes the glasses off and she
goes I know it's pretty bad
I know it's scary you guys
she's like what's sad is it's gotten a lot
she's like it's gotten a lot better.
It's so, and you know what the funny thing is?
How long does that makeup, her no makeup makeup look, how long does it take?
Yeah.
Oh, God.
It takes like an hour and a half after I get the lips on to get into the zombie.
And then like another hour and a half to get into the makeup yeah to adhere those lips i'm curious about that and does and do they stay on i mean what do you use to put
those on it's crazy it is different every single time like it'll be great one time and then the
next time it's like i've never even done it before you know what i mean um but i got it down to like
a little bit of science and
eventually started making my own lips so i kind of had my own little method but i don't know i
would do shows as her and they would stay on and it was fine but i just like definitely have i'm
aware of it i can't just like you know just like be doing whatever yeah kind of like with the lips
yeah yeah but um i i would love to see because like my i mean. Yeah. Kind of like with the lips. Yeah. But I would love to see,
cause like my, I mean, I have to be honest,
like in terms of American drag race,
my attention span is kind of dipping
a little bit here and there,
but I would love to see Queens go on the show
as characters.
Yeah.
And just like Roxanne,
I feel like would sweep the competition.
I agree.
Wouldn't that be incredible?
I mean, I think? I mean I think
that's a huge part of
doing drag is like
you know obviously having
you know like a thing obviously like
works for some of us.
But I think it's also cool
to be like this SNL
skit of drag you know where you can
just totally change
what you're doing every single day like
why not um but yeah if obviously all-stars is never going to happen for me but if i take one
all-stars roxanne would be there she would be like tearing it up do the children chase you do the
children comment you have to do all-stars do the children dm you of course they do yeah i don't
think they realize like you don't re-audition, you know, like on all stars. Oh,
right.
Right.
Yeah.
But so,
so for someone like you,
who is,
I mean,
I mean,
you can,
you are very beautiful in and out of drag and,
and then in drag,
you have like a very kind of transcendent beauty.
Do you love looking ugly?
I can't even listen to,
I can't even listen to this.
Like I do not.
It's the truth.
Whether you can accept the compliment or not,
you are so wonderful.
You don't have to accept the compliment. It just the truth whatever um so but do you love
because i love looking ugly on purpose i absolutely love looking ugly i love looking beautiful and i
love looking ugly even more like i do these really twisted thin-lipped like nasty housewife
characters as well and i literally just want to go grocery
shopping like that you know what i mean like i want to just live like i feel more yeah like at
home when i'm just as like kim the the super nanny you know what i mean yeah then then being
like pearl i don't know just like you also did like a Vicky, what is their name?
Vicky.
Gunvalson.
Yeah.
Such a serve.
Nasty.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love it.
I just love looking like a rotted middle-aged woman.
I don't know.
And then you get out of the makeup and you're like,
I'm so young and perfect.
It reminds you of how beautiful you,
I feel like dressing up ugly.
Just get tired of being beautiful. Right. Just get tired of being beautiful.
Right.
Tired of being beautiful.
Right.
If you want to feel great,
like remember when Tyra,
remember when Tyra on television.
Oh yeah.
Did certain things that you probably wouldn't do now.
Certain fat suits.
And then she was like,
I was in a fat suit for a day.
So now I understand.
Yes.
I was in a fat suit for three hours.
So now I get it.
Right.
Yeah.
Now I get it.
And then she,
um,
and then she got caught wearing that
swimsuit and she looked fat
in it and then she like wore
the swimsuit on her show to prove that she
wasn't fat to be brave
to be vulnerable and brave
and then she's like kiss my foot
you remember that
yes
god
so I mean she's probably one of the worst talk show hosts and terrible models
but who is god bless her oh sure whatever i um who is your i get i get an enjoyment
entertainment out of tyra banks you love her i could i could fall asleep with that shit just
like i just saw this meme that was like housewives full volume bickering and
then me sleeping to it it was like somebody calmly sleeping next to it oh my god i can't
sleep unless bethany frankel is like crying and screaming hysterically in my ear what is your
favorite housewives franchise like a location potomac potomac sorry oh potomac Potomac is lit that fight was crazy Which one?
The fight was crazy
Oh yeah absolutely
They teased it all season like it was going to be punty
And then when it happened it was so violent
And so evil
What happened?
I know it went dark
I felt so bad for Wendy
I felt really bad for Wendy
She was like I did not sign up for this
She was like shook I loved not sign up for this. She was like, shook.
No, I loved Ashley coming back from the bathroom.
Because she was like peeing.
And then getting completely involved in the court.
Yes.
In the lawsuit.
It's crazy.
She was like the only one who wasn't there.
I love that bird to Chala.
My heart.
Oh my God.
I know.
I was like ready to take a bullet for Monique.
Like everything she did, she could do no wrong until the whole way she handled the fight ensued. But the parrot, everything about her is just queen shit in my eyes.
Yeah.
But yeah, I do love Potomac and I love New York. I mean, it's the best.
Yeah, if you want to check out some unchecked alcoholism at full volume, watch New York.
It's crazy.
Oh, my God.
What about in the realm of models, actresses, blah, blah, blah.
Who would you say are your top three beauty icons?
God, I am so sick of these questions, you guys.
What did she say?
I'm so sick of them.
I'm so sick of this question.
When you're doing the drag race circuit,
isn't that question just like railed into
your head over and over again?
I've never been asked that question.
You haven't?
No.
People actually ask you
substantial questions and want to know other things.
I guess as a drag queen...
Yeah, we can talk about it.
I guess as a drag queen or beauty creator,
who's somebody who just makes you like,
oh shit, I want to get in a wig now?
Who inspires you?
Anybody?
No, not really.
It's even better. I don't know. I don't do drag because like, I don't know. Let me think. Like, I don't know. Like, it really just comes like what I want to wear is what makes me get into drag. I'm like, ooh, like my like all these wigs I've been making recently. I was just like, like oh i really want to start like making my own wigs again i want them to be really long and woodsy like fairy girl
running through the woods hair so i don't know i just made them and now i get into drag that and
i get into drag designed around the wig you know it's not really like i'm not really like i've
never i don't know like of course i love like old hollywood blonde bombshells and all that shit but
like yes you have not like making me get into drag you know right right right you have what
she's inspired by acorns acorns and the trees pine trees yes yeah rivers streams i'm really
inspired by the squirrels from the sword of the stone and yeah i find nature madam mim
madam mim inspires me the witch from sword in the Stone. There you go.
Oh, there you go.
There you go.
She's like the little hobbit,
and then she turns into a beautiful woman with long hair.
You ever seen Sword in the Stone?
No.
You guys suck.
Whatever.
Is this like a new movie?
Is this like, is that Picard?
Is that an old movie?
The Sword in the Stone?
Is this like an old movie?
I was at James Charles' house once,
and I asked him,
what do you think an old horror movie
is? And he said, Scream.
Scream. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me.
It's 2010, isn't it? Yeah.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It's like 1988. Oh, okay.
Yeah. He was saying it's probably 2002.
Well, what's like your favorite old
horror movie? Mine's Sleepaway Camp.
Good one. I've never
seen that. I've never seen sleepaway camp
watch it tonight is that the one with the crazy um i wouldn't say it's the most sensitive depiction
a trans character yes but got it got it yeah um i i stay away from i like to stay away from cabin
movies movies that like cabin in the woods oh my god i love it even though i live in a cabin in the woods
i love it i just love sleeping like you get scared at night there seriously i did at first but i don't
anymore why not is it the wig i just love it i don't know i watch forensic files all night i
don't care i just like love it really i love to be creeped out i love scary movies i love thriller
movies of horror movies it's like my favorite shit.
What's the scariest movie you've ever seen?
Scary, scary to the bone chilling.
Oh my God. High tension.
Have you seen it? It's a French film.
Yes, I have. Mary, that movie is
fucking insane. What's it about?
That and... Oh, go ahead.
No, no, no.
That and Ichi the Killer.
What's that? Have you seen Ichi the Killer?
no
say it again
that's the most
Ichi the Killer
it's a Japanese movie
I think it's Japanese
I haven't seen that one
that's like terrible as well
it's just like
another crazy foreign film
that's psychotic
you gotta watch
you gotta watch High Tension
there's a crazy twist at the end, but that movie
is fucking great. It starts
out with
this guy, this monster guy
getting a blowjob from a decapitated
head. Oh, work.
Tuesday.
Quarantine.
We're gonna take a break.
And we're
back. Oh, we're back. Wow. and we're back oh we're back
wow
so if anybody
hasn't followed
I'm serious
your YouTube content
is so varied
and
yeah it's lit
crunk and turd
you also don't post
every other day
so when you do post
it's like okay
this is a pro video
I'm sitting down
and watching it
oh my god
is that really
how you feel
I've watched your videos
yes
I've watched them
and also
some of the makeup techniques,
you have the generousness of sharing.
You did this thing where you said,
instead of doing glitter on your inner eye,
you do white dots now.
I sat here on this couch on my TV going,
okay.
And then halfway through the dots,
I was like,
holy shit.
It does look like glitter.
White dots.
Tiny teeny white dots
you technique hun
it's unmatched
your makeup artistry has always been ridiculous
but like now more than ever
you look like a fucking I don't even know what
I really want to come can I come up and get my makeup done
come to the mountain
I would love it
can I sleep over
you can sleep on the bus
yeah I would love it even besides makeup Can I sleep over? Do you allow guests? Yeah, you can sleep on the bus, girl.
She does makeup on the bus.
Yeah, I would love it.
We can also do my hair.
Even besides makeup, we can just keep keep. We can be friends and stuff.
Are you still smoking the weed?
Oh my God, girl.
That is my biggest expense.
It's more than my rent, honestly.
Work.
If anyone listening has a private grower,
please DM me, email me, get in touch.
So you go to the store,
or you send away a delivery service to get the wacky weed?
God.
We had this guy who was a private grower,
and he was giving us the best deals ever.
He passed on.
And then he died. died no but he no longer
does that so now we're buying it from the stores and it's like fucking killing me it's like between
the taxes and yeah just is it expensive i'm a very avid cannabis consumer how much is weed
um it's like two hundred dollars an ounce for like this much and how much does an ounce get
you through if you're like a casual smoker well i live with my boyfriend so it's kind of hard to
gauge but you're like i'm in a wig in the woods i'm not a casual smoker we can smoke an ounce of
weed in like a week like a week okay that's like two hundred dollars week yeah $100 a month hun
no that really is like rent again
yeah yeah
you know water's wet weed's expensive
what are you gonna do
exactly yeah
and do you ever do like do you smoke like
you roll up a fat blunt and smoke it like that
no I just like
I'm old school I like to burn flour
and like a big fat bong rip
okay just like bongs big straight guy college energy i'm like bill and ted bogus adventure
with my weed consumption i really it's just what i am it's just what i do i don't like do drugs
anymore i barely drink but i do love i love the idea of seeing the lady of the woods with this flaxen hair all
36 inches and then just taking a big
bong. Choking on weed.
Choking on smoke. She's sprinting
through the snow with a bong choking.
It's awesome.
So she flies on the bong across the moon.
Yeah.
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Are you still finding time to do any sculptures, mixed media?
I just did my first commission in like a year.
Yeah.
We have one of your sculptures at David's house and we love it.
Oh, is that? We have Darcelle. Oh yeah.
Yeah. I delivered that one. I remember I came in and took a little, little tricksy visit.
Yeah. She's gorgeous. I love your sculptures. I think Juno Birch is going through the same thing because she does YouTube a lot now. And so she doesn't have as much time to sculpt.
Yeah. It's a lot of commitment well i mean ideally i would just love to have like a room
set up where you can just walk in and do it it just becomes a thing when you're pulling it all
out doing it putting it away and i just have my hands in so many like artistic pots i guess you
gotta get a studio just you need a studio yeah well that's why I came up here I have like room I have
an extra like room oh that's great
yeah I leave my YouTube shit set up full
time now because I used to take
like break it down whatever that's
a whole nother thing leave it up in the east wing
in there though you should see it it's like CBS
Studios it's like CBS Studios in there
CBS Studios they do the news here
but you know when you're trying to be creative
when there's a whole hour of setup but like before it you're like well girl it's like a very legitimate all like second
career for you so why wouldn't you have a fucking studio in the next room like does that wouldn't
make sense not to yeah it's it's it's believe me it's modest it's a small room we the lights are
flat up against the wall and the seamless is flat up against the other wall.
Whatever works.
That's the thing about YouTube.
You can be in a closet and no one
would know. You can put a green screen
behind you just like fucking Roxanne
and you can be in a mansion and nobody
would know.
It's crazy what you can build.
Especially with makeup, the illusion
is to make it look like you're a big,
fancy Revlon company.
It's like half the time.
I'm like,
who do you think took that product picture?
Me and my underwear in that room.
Yeah.
You fucking bitch.
Do you have any aspirations to ever do television again?
Um,
I guess it would just depend on the project.
I mean,
uh,
I like the idea of being like super private I mean, I like the idea of being super private,
but I also like the idea of just broadcasting my creative stuff
in any way that's good and positive.
But I wouldn't be in reality competition shit anymore.
I wouldn't do that.
Well, that's harder than anything.
And I don't think people realize that.
That's the hardest type of TV there is.
It's garbage and you're only
making networks rich and you're not
really getting anything out of it yourself.
If you're on Drag Race, obviously that's a different story.
But usually
you're just going on there to entertain their
masses and they get paid and
you get your little $250
stipend or whatever.
And a pack of fruit snacks thrown at you by a PA if you're lucky.
A sweaty PA.
Right.
Well, maybe someday when you buy your property and you want to like renovate or build, I
hope you put on your YouTube.
I love...
Oh, I would.
The whole thing.
Like eventually me and my boyfriend would love to like build a garage and just build tiny houses and like put them on trailers and just ship them out one at a time and record it and document it.
I went through a tiny house shopping phase where I was thinking of buying a tiny house and putting it on a plot in Wisconsin in my hometown.
And I ultimately passed.
But it must be very lucrative because even a cheap tiny home is tens of thousands of dollars if you're buying it, not self-building it.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, we bought our bus for $5,000.
And we're putting like, you know, obviously the bare minimum into it.
But we could probably sell it at the end of the day for like $70,000, $80,000, $90,000.
Flipping buses.
Easily.
Easily.
Especially when you get down to people customizing it.
You know, like.
Right.
Right.
So if like people want to work with us and customize something like that, that's cool.
But I kind of would love to just build something totally like crazy glam and like just sell it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Would you ever tour clubs again?
Work with people.
Would you ever tour clubs again? Rather than work with people. Would you ever tour clubs again?
I'm sorry?
Would you ever tour nightclubs again?
Oh, yeah, definitely.
I just don't want to do it multiple times a week.
Yeah.
You know?
But I actually love doing it.
I love the experience of it,
but it just like ruins the experience
when you're doing it like all the time.
Do you agree? Yeah, I mean, finding the balance. Well, you're sorry. You experience when you're doing it like all the time do you agree
yeah i mean finding the balance you're sorry you guys are still actively doing it so you're
probably kidding me i gotta tear this i gotta dig her out of a coffin yeah every time we have
to do something paperwork before that even gets to that step like but you know i but finding the
balance between like what you're like what you want to do and what you need to do or what you think you need to do.
And like,
you know,
all that stuff is,
is tricky and it depends on,
depends on a lot of stuff.
It changes,
but like,
it's stupid though.
Cause it shouldn't be tricky.
It should be like what your needs should be met.
Like if you have that privilege,
which we all did,
which we all do slash did when we got off of drag race,
but we chose to fucking kill ourselves and be
miserable most of the time and like get into shit we shouldn't have got get into it like it sucks
so i just kind of refuse yeah you know well as a fan i don't think anybody who follows you feels
neglected we still get a lot and it's on your own terms which anybody who really likes you
respects that you don't want to be in drag
every day.
You know what I mean?
Well,
people are going to see me.
More people are going to see me getting into drag in my house and taking a
picture for Instagram.
Then they're going to see me in a club.
Right.
And at their own schedule in their panties.
Yeah.
Yeah,
exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just refuse to like be uncomfortable with this shit anymore.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's all.
Welcome to your thirties.
Yeah.
What'd you drink in there?
Urine.
Whose?
Yours or Jeremy's?
My own, sweetie.
No, it's his.
It's a blend.
Fetus.
Sorry, I just got really stoned and took a gummy before I got on this and it's like hitting.
No, it's apple juice.
Apple juice.
Can I ask about the gummies?
What's a moderate dosage for you?
Milligrams.
Well, I don't ever feel it.
So my boyfriend just like will put like three in my mouth and he'll eat like one.
This feels like an abusive relationship.
I can eat like 60 to 80 grams, I guess.
So let me tell you about Shirley Temple right here.
Did you say 60 to 80?
Let me tell you about Shirley Temple right here.
Yeah, possibly 100.
This girl, she'll take a half a milligram and she'll be butt naked in downtown LA.
What's wrong with you?
Well, is there anything this year you want to tackle?
What can we as people who follow you expect?
Yeah, what's next for Pearl?
Do you think you're going to get the bus done this year?
Oh yeah, absolutely.
We should be done with it in the next month or two.
So cool.
That is such a gag.
Yeah, so basically we don't want to get rid of this house.
So if you guys want like little month long rental moments up in the mountains, let me know.
But besides that, yeah, we're just going to be like documenting our like travel experiences.
Be like nomadic, cute, gay couple on YouTube.
Oh my God.
I'll be doing drag out in the woods and I'm going to be designing I have like
I'm going to I have like an athleisure
collection
coming out so
it's going to be like huh Brooks Marks
yes exactly
that's me that's my aspiration
but yeah
just like I don't know being cute
and
loving life.
Especially now that I'm not in the lawsuit anymore.
Hey.
Yes, freedom.
Being cute and loving life.
Here's to being as beautiful and talented as Pearl on your own terms.
Congratulations, Pearl.
Girl, you've done it.
Wait, so where can people find you online?
I'm a survivor.
Where can people find you online?
So where can people find you online? I'm a survivor.
Where can people find you online?
On Instagram, Pearl Liaison, on YouTube, Pearl Bazaar.
And I think that's it.
Not no OnlyFans.
Not yet.
Not yet.
TikTok.
Would you spread that hole on video for OnlyFans?
I thought about it.
My boyfriend is basically like shoving the camera in my face to get it done
once i told him how much money people are making um no kidding but yeah he's like trying to pit me
out now but you know what i don't know i googled last night how much is the average only fans
creator make and it's 180 a month you can't even make an the average is not even anything well
that's the average but like if you a star look at the material look at the
material well when my nudes leaked like that was fucking like a hellacious wildfire so i could only
imagine like actually getting paid for it might as well i mean the thought crosses my mind but
i don't necessarily need it right now and i don't't have like a desire. I'm not like voyeuristic or anything like that.
So I don't have like a desire.
It's not titillating at this point.
Right.
I would literally only be doing it for money right now.
But Roxanne fucking.
Now Roxanne, I would pay $29.99 a month to see Roxanne's tight gash.
Roxanne likes up.
Like I wish.
Yeah.
I thought about that too.
There's a whole thing around it it's not just
like oh get an only fans post your dick pics it's like get an only fans figure out your marketing
scheme how are you going to market your private photos how much are you going to charge for those
you know what i mean like there's all these different things inside the only fans like
sharing extra photos for my like everyone that I talked to about it was like,
don't ever show anything.
Only put it in like the,
the pictures that you charge.
Yeah,
exactly.
So I'm like,
wow,
thank God that we talked.
Cause if I just got an only fans,
it would have just been like giving it all away.
You know what I mean?
There's like a,
there's like a method to it.
Yeah.
And it's a deep commitment.
Creating content like that is not easy. Yeah, it is's a deep commitment. Creating content like that is not easy.
Yeah, it is.
And it's very-
Especially for porn stars, right?
Because they're like having to get railed
to keep anyone's interest.
And also they're having to-
There's a guy I want to have on the pod
and the amount of pressure there is
because now you're not only up against like,
you establish a precedent in your own content creation and rollout that you have to compete with the, I mean, every single one of your colleagues.
Right.
Every one of them.
You're competing for money.
And it's like, Jesus Christ.
Anyways.
Anyways.
Anyways.
Well, when you go down that road, Pearl, we will retweet and share.
Yes.
And I will subscribe.
You will?
Oh my God.
Thank you. And I will rub my pussy
raw to your hot, sexy pics.
Thank you.
Just don't reshare my art, sis.
Oh yeah, I'll also be stealing the photos
and using them on Grindr. Thank you so much.
I'm coming up the mountain
and I'm going to get my paint done by you.
You know, I know we're running out of time here, but I have to say
one more thing. We talked about it recently, and you
just brought it up, Pearl.
Don't share.
It is not ethical to share people's nudes just because they were on television
and it doesn't feel like a real person to you.
That's so 2004.
It is fucking unethical, and no one talks about it.
What's his name?
Aaron Samuels from Mean Girls.
His nude actually leaked yesterday.
Everyone's sharing it.
I'm like, this is horrible.
But did you look?
Yeah.
But I mean, I saw it,
but I wouldn't, I just
think it's so gross. How did you feel
when people leaked your nude?
No, I was kind of pissed.
But at the same time,
I didn't expect
any more from the community that I was in.
Because I think it I think it was through like a private album on Grindr or Scruff or something.
And then like I shared it and then they shared it basically.
So I was pissed, but I also like didn't expect anything more.
Yeah.
People are rotted.
I didn't expect anything less.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't personally,
I don't worry about that because the pictures of my
gash are so tight and tiny.
People think it's a belly button.
They think it's like
a part of a child.
Because how could
something be so small?
So small what?
Small, bald, and tiny.
Small, bald, and tiny. Small, bald, and tiny.
You know no one wants to see that bloomin' onion.
Bloomin' onion, okay.
French onion soup.
Pearl, thank you, Pearl, for joining us today.
Thank you, goodbye.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Pearl.
Thank you so much. Bye.