The Basement Yard - Uber Ratings & Dick Molds
Episode Date: December 19, 2016On this episode, I have my buddy @GregDybec on to talk about his new book "The Art Of Living Other People's Lives" which is available Jan 3rd in stores & online. We also talk about a lot of other thin...gs.. it gets weird. Preorder here:https://www.amazon.com/Art-Living-Other-Peoples-Lives/dp/076245993X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482170497&sr=8-1&keywords=the+art+of+living+other+peoples+lives My Merch: http://www.themcgeecloset.bigcartel.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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welcome back to the basement yard it is Wednesday December 14th doing this a
little fucking early this podcast is sponsored by the McGee closet go on the
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I am joined by one of my good friends mr. Greg dieback thanks for having me
good no problem talking to the Mike Greg god damn it's my first time in the
basement I mean Greg used to work together at elite daily when I worked
there became in around the same time as well one of the original 30 I would say
oh definitely you were there before I was and I was like yeah I was only there
for like a week before you though like you really yeah I was I wasn't there for
a long time there was people cycling in and out at the time it was just kind of
just to give everyone a background whatever elite daily is this like how
would you describe it like a media company it's definitely a media company
it's a I mean it's a website it's a digital publisher right digital
publisher that's you see when people used to ask me like what is like I don't
really know how to explain yeah but back then we also had no idea what it was
yeah it was like a bunch of different shit it was great everyone at the
company was like 25 and we were just fucking killing it getting millions of
page views every month yeah we were we were like the herpes of social media
right all over Facebook yes anytime you told someone I work at elite daily they
would just respond all over Facebook yeah so yeah we're like the herpes of
social media that's great still works there right now he's the don't know
your title managing editor I knew there was managing in there he's a managing
editor at elite daily go check out the site but yeah that fucking place I
always tell people at time like it's probably the best nine to five job I'll
ever have in my entire life absolutely nothing about it especially back then
felt like nine to five it felt like like I was never yeah I was never in a
fraternity in college that was the closest thing to being in a frat slash
hundred percent already because you know there's girls to co-ed right a co-ed
frat right there and it was like a frat house like you literally would walk into
this place and there was just people on their laptops like everywhere there was
no real like just grinding yeah just pumping out articles and shit and it
was always just fun and fucking around well it was it was the work hard play
hard mentality oh yeah for sure so that's it was good times fucking love that
place but yeah I got I when I I started working there I was so dumb because that
was probably I'm not gonna say it was my first job because I had worked at like
pizzerias and stuff but that hiring process is way different you kind of
just walk in they're like hey whatever you got a fucking license here deliver
pieces they always say I was the first person with a resume that ever came to
elite they definitely didn't look at it but they're like who's white guy with a
resume hey it worked out yeah right like the first time I went was because so
when the first site first started it was very small and a girl I know used to
work there and she hit me up for this college entrepreneurs of the week or
whatever and I was like I don't really know if I fit this description because
I've been in college for seven minutes and then I dropped out but they wanted to
do this this like article on me so I didn't interview with them and just like
did it whatever and then she hit me up like a week later she's like oh you
know the the bosses the CEO is where everyone to call them they they really
liked you so they want you to come in for like a meeting whatever so I was like
all right cool dude I went to this meeting with actually yeah so the first
time I went in there was with two of my friends like I just I don't know why
like it was the most ghetto shit no shirt and tie or anything no dude I was
wearing a t-shirt like I really hope I wasn't wearing sweatpants but I'm not
sure honestly but I went in there and I was just kind of just hanging out and I
met Johnny and David and they were cool and we like did this video series thing
and it was just like the most unorganized shit but then like a year later or a
year and a half later they were blowing up and I remember David hit me up and
he's like yo do you want to be an extra in this video will give you $150 and I
had like $200 on my bank account so I was like dude I'm down nice yeah so I
went in and we shot this thing and then he just asked me he's like yeah would you
want to work here like we're trying to build out the video department and I was
like fucking yeah thank God and I was hoping he would pay me like $100 a week
like that's all I needed you know what I mean I was just like yo whatever and I
was getting paid like way more than that not way more you know insane like it was
like 300 bucks a week or some shit but I was only in there like part-time it was
great and that's how it started and then we just and then you showed up a week
later and that was it company sold and then now we're fucking sitting here and
you wrote a book I did which is insane I can actually tell people like not on
the internet like an actual book so you can do both you could work online and
like hold physical things yeah exactly I can't believe that how long did it take
you to write it over a year I'd say I think you worked on it every single day
yeah I had to but what is the fucking like what is the process of writing a
book like how do you even just like start I mean I've always been a writer so I
just like that's sounds terrible but that's what I do like in my spare time
like I will right sit down in front of a computer and write so you know boring
nerd but it's a so I had as it's a collection of essays funny essays
hopefully people think it's funny but I had some essays written already so
things that like I was just constantly crafting and working on and I the goal
was to always get a book deal so I just kind of had these you know in my back
pocket was just always writing knew that a day would come where I would try to
reach out to an agent and go through the publishing process and it worked out
it was just one of those circumstantial things where Elite Daily actually
started working with WME and I saw that as like my in I was like oh my god like I
need to get in touch with an agent and I just bugged everyone I'm like give me
one contact to their books people and everyone's like book like what are you
talking about books like we work online like stop yeah I was like just one email
and they finally gave it to me and I think they were surprised that I actually had essays
that I was working on so an agent there you know actually liked the work and
you know believed in it enough to sign me as a client and then you know after
that you kind of put a proposal together so it's just writing a bunch of essays I
think I'd like 15,000 words worth of essays that they then you know pitched to
publishers and once that goes through and you get a book deal with them then they
give you a deadline for when the full manuscript is due so then it's like you just have to write
your ass off and that's like a year from the that day or yeah I had a yeah about a year from when
I got the book deal to when I had to hand them you know all the essays like I think the minimum was
60,000 words it's like 20 essays Jesus it's a lot of writing dude that sounds like a
fucking lot of writing like what kind of quality of life was that year
I imagine it would be busy 24-7 that's the thing it's like writing I love it but it's not like
glamorous it's it's lonely you know it's just sitting there ignoring my girlfriend who I live with
I mean good for her she was obviously supportive you know everyone was but
it's funny because there were the days where she would come into the apartment and it's like
you're still in sweatpants like I just did the laundry when food chopping cleaned and you're
just sitting on your computer in sweatpants and it's like yeah it doesn't look like anything but
this is it like this is I'm writing a book I'm writing a book I have a deadline so yeah you can
still find time for that but you know I can't even like I just struggle with I don't know like for me
like even when I worked at elite like I'd be sitting there and I'd be editing or whatever
I just can't sit there and just I don't know I'm like terrible at that like my I have work ethic
but it's just like the consistency like being able to sit there like all right I'm gonna work for two
straight hours yeah you know I mean like that's so hard for me the the hardest part was even finding
those two hours a lot of times I wouldn't so I just had to train myself to like right on the subway
like right on like park benches if I had like a minute so it was weird like I did a lot of writing
on my phone actually so I just look like that like crazy person on the train just like typing in my
notes people probably think I'm writing about everyone around me but yeah just had to get
did you have to like be grammatical every when you've written or you just had other people just
kind of review it and like you don't have to worry too much I mean it should be in the best shape but
you you know once you get signed with a publisher you get an editor that like works with you one
on one reads over everything there's a separate copy editor that makes sure like every period is
right every comma is in the right place so you definitely have a team that helps you out with
that well at least that makes me feel better yeah because my I would hand in this thing that'd be
all fucked up now that's yeah people have jobs to to fix that yeah why are you working on a book
no I'm not at all I mean you know I wouldn't put it you know completely out of the question
but I never put anything out of the question I mean probably not but I think that would be just
so awesome just to be able to say like how cool is it to be able to say like you have a
published book no it's it's unreal it's like I mean that's what I've wanted for as long as I can't
remember so that day comes out January 3rd like going into the store and seeing that on a shelf
is gonna be nuts I'm gonna buy like every copy yeah like fucking like rappers yeah exactly yeah
just hand them out to me oh my god that's fucking sick how long is the book the book is
so it's paperback it's probably two maybe 240 pages which isn't that long it sounds like a lot
I mean it's a good amount yeah 60 something thousand so you had to have a lot of things
happen in your life for this to go down so I mean the name of it is the art of living other
people's lives yeah why aren't you already why tell everyone the big the big reveal the big reveal
you're you're kind of in the on the book oh yeah I'm on the fucking book by the way
totally forgot about that so you just said it I'm on it what is it like a testimonial are they
called or whatever I tried this product I really liked it yeah it's uh like a blurb this book was
great for putting things on top of and not reading no it's sitting uh I know exactly where it is
it's actually on my nightstand the book I said it was on your toilet in there yeah no it was in
the toilet I took it out today just so you know but uh it's a blurb so it's like you know on the
cover or back cover I don't know where it's gonna be but it's like you know whatever nice thing you
said about it and dash your name that's awesome so you're like you're I'm a more likely a published
author yeah exactly just like I haven't written a book but I'm fucking on the back even better
yeah it's like I didn't do any of the work but I'm on I'm trust me I'm on the fucking thing
but uh yeah you so you should have uh you had a lot of things happen here I mean the reason why
I brought up the title is because the title alone kind of sets the tone for the book like the art
of living other people's lives first of all how did you even come up with that title and how does
that kind of pertain to the essays so that credit I have to give to my agent actually it was uh
title of one of the essays uh in the book proposal that I submitted and she she kept saying like this
title is really sticking out to me like this is this is a really cool title and we just use that
as a temporary title when we pitched it but what was really cool is it's like a lot of the themes
kind of go back to that title in a way and a lot of it's like stories about my life uh but also
working for the internet and just how weird and obviously you know like just how strange
that duality of not just using the internet to you know procrastinate or get your news like most
people do but actually being part of that ecosystem so to say where you know that's something you're
creating every day and like I call it being on like the other side of the internet um so it kind
of made sense too because especially with my job it's oh it's just constantly figuring out like what
do people want like how do I put myself in other people's shoes like what stories are they clicking
and why what titles do they like what pictures do they like like what's you know what's funny what's
going to go viral so that theme just kind of you know throughout the book as well so what should
what should people what kind like what what should people expect if they're going to buy this book
like is it a funny book is it this is it that like I know you mentioned that it was funny but like
just kind of what kind of stories are in there yeah or is it one big story like no so they're
all separate not chronological chapters yeah just all separate essays like I'm different ages and all
of them it's not like a memoir where it like follows my life right you know on this day I was born
because like no one gives a shit so it's kind of like a highlight reel a highlight reel yeah a lot
of people might hate me after it but no it's uh yeah it's it's funny though and it's it's obviously
some absurd stories because you know we all have some of those but for me something I realize I think
along the way you know working online is I feel like I was always expected to be this kind of like
perfect image of a person or you know if you work online you have to just constantly be on or you
have to be that yeah like Instagram sort of version of yourself yeah and like for me I'm usually
like I keep my feelings pretty tight I'm not like an overly emotional person outwardly I don't think
so it was cool to write some of these stories where I could really dive into some of my like
anxieties insecurities uh talk about some you know mistakes I made not regrets but you know
mistakes are just really strange moments where I think you know I learned lessons that helped
make me who I am today so can you give me an example yeah let's uh
kind of curious because guys just like preface the situation so Greg is not like he's not lying
when he says he's not like outwardly emotional or whatever because I remember when the first
time I met you I was like this guy is a hard guy to read I don't really know like what kind of
person he is and I forgot I honestly really truly forgot what someone said to me once but
they're like oh Greg blah blah blah did someone was like what that guy Greg and I remember asking
you that host from Westworld I was like what and then uh yeah we were just having a conversation
about I man I wish I knew what the fuck it was but I was like it completely threw me off because
you are so just you know you do your thing and you're just kind of not too much out there like me
I'm a fucking open book you can tell like right away the kind of person I am uh but with you
at least for the you know when I first met you and stuff like that uh I was like what the fuck
so can you give an example of like people are probably wondering like what the hell is this guy
yeah I forgot oh man I wish I fucking knew what it was but anyway can you give me the example of
something yeah let's let's let's a good example so we were talking about earlier there's one story
in there that's funny I went to Brazil for the world cup the last world cup sick which was sick
I went to the one before that in South Africa too world cups are amazing definitely recommend it
you went to two of them in a row in a row how is that though like is it like I can't even imagine
being in a soccer stadium yeah there's nothing like it like is that when they had the fucking horns
in South Africa yeah the blue zellas yeah I like every time like I close my eyes I still hear that
sound yeah it's insane I had one my dad fucking hate he would mute the games because I'm like that
yeah he's like yeah that was people got a little too excited oh that's like yeah that's just a toy
you don't want to give everyone it has to be just a party all week it is it is it's like just imagine
like it's it's a giants game on steroids like times like 50 because it's just people from all over
the world which is amazing and Brazil was cool and Rio was I mean insane just like the parties the
women the beaches like insane just like go there now go there after this but we I went with a friend
and we had a couple games in Brasilia which is the capital of Brazil that no one talks about because
it's the shittiest place on it's just boring it's not even like like if I step outside I'm
going to die it's just so boring it's a city that they actually just built like from the ground
they're like one day we're going to make a new capital in Brazil and they just built it and
nothing goes on there but one thing does go on there and that's prostitution apparently it's
like of course the prostitution capital like of Brazil so we're staying in this hotel district as
they call it and I go out onto the balcony one day and there's like these girls on the corner
outside I'm like oh okay some ladies hanging out and then like a car pulls up I'm like oh cool
like they must be from the neighborhood they must have some friends and maybe we could meet them
and you know car pulls away another one pulls up like they're really popular it's weird because
there's like also families like walking like through them like excuse me like what they're
like five-year-old children on the street what time of the day was it maybe like eight p it wasn't
even that late okay then they're just going you know going at it all right and then one of them
finally gets in a car and just you know she's gone but then she comes back like 30 minutes later
and it's like I think I know what's going on here yeah all right quick google it's legal they're like
they're like trained they all like learned english before the world cup they're like
these are like top of the line these are like if you want a prostitute like you go to brazil these
are like the politician hookers of brazil yeah i mean yes because i talk about all the time how
like jerry jones and like all those old fucking nfl owners all probably banging these crazy hookers
but probably they probably go to brazilia for it there you go brazil keep a low profile so it's
legal there just it's legal yeah that's just yeah i don't know i don't know why might as well make
it legal that's the thing and we i got this idea because we were so bored in this town like there's
nothing to do i'm like we like we got to make friends with these prostitutes like just friends
like i'm not yeah i'm not wasting my money to you know do anything but like just friends like
there's no harm so we like creep downstairs we go up to them and i'm like hi like do you want to
hang out like what's your name i'm greg and they're just they're so freaked out they're like sex sex
like sex i'm like no no no just like hi like like come upstairs i'll give you like a hundred
dollars to watch tv or drink a beer and the whole trip we just like we just we ended up trying to
basically save these prostitutes to like because we just felt so bad we're just like creating these
stories like they're oh my god like like her mom must be like sick in the hospital and she's like
has to like do this from but like no like we're just idiots they're just doing their job it's
legal yeah and yeah they wouldn't hang out with us which is so weird and you're just like come on let's
play darts or something yeah that just made me realize how judgmental of a person i was it wasn't
good i mean dude sometimes i mean that's probably the best route they probably make a killing over
there especially during the world cup it's like dude get the fuck out of here i'm not gonna drink
a beer with you they know what's going on yeah some old white dudes gonna come here and give me
two thousand american dollars that's fucking sick though i gotta do that one day not the hooker
part go save them yeah world cups are amazing but yeah no there's there's a lot of stories about
travel um and just do you travel a lot i mean you went to the two world cups so i imagine yeah two
world cups um yeah i travel a lot for work too um and yeah just anytime i can i remember when we
worked at elite didn't you go to like the bud light place where was that oh whatever usa yeah yeah it was
in colorado how was there two and then one in like california it's like a town made out of beer or
some shit yeah it was a shit show it wasn't even worth it there was like it was just wasted like
dudes off bud light and all they would serve in the town is like bud light i'm like can i get like
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your face no that's scary that just reminds me of like could be like a seat cushion or something
you remember goosebumps you remember i had those little mini movies yeah remember the the green
mask one that's my favorite one that one's terrifying oh my god don't even say it when she's
like because like that's why i wouldn't i wouldn't mold my face because just seeing my own face i'd
be like i can't do this wow it's like freaky you know what i mean even those those masks that like
looks like a baby's face like those scare me they're terrifying yeah because i'm like it looks too real
like and then i think about that movie where she put the mask on and then she couldn't get it off
that would actually be a perfect like halloween porno like a guy tries to like mold his dick
but then he can't get it off and it like becomes it's like alive or something greg dieback author
porn director that's what i'm working on next screenplay in the works next thing right now
speaking of next thing are you planning on writing another book i am um i think the best
advice i got i met with an author who was a few steps ahead of me had his book come out is doing well
and i said to him like ah like what like now what like what do i do like this thing's about to come
out i know the feeling's gonna be like you know i just had this like baby all this hype leading
up to it the first week everyone's gonna be like uh cool your books out but then like you know it
ends and it's like yeah what do you do so his advice was just keep like promote you know promote
where you can but just keep writing like work on new stuff all the time you know as as you're doing
this so that's something i'm always doing like i'll go home after this and write is it gonna be like
do you ever write like fiction or are you just always basically kind of off your stuff i've i've
dabbled um yeah i would i'm working on a few things now really trying to like feel out what
makes the most sense to fully fully pursue uh but fiction is definitely not off the table i love
fiction that's probably what i read more than anything so maybe an asshole for not reading
that much because like i feel like not i've i've read i honestly front to back have only read
maybe five books in my entire life which is bad i mean i've read things you know obviously
i honestly read all the time but it's only like specific things that i need to know
and i'll die i think that's most people yeah i guess so there's the people out there though like
when they read like that audience who reads like they read like that like books are their movies
you know yeah do you read like all the fucking uh game of thrones books and shit no i've never
even watched game of thrones what i know wow i know i get i get no pop culture references i don't
even know how i still work at holy daily it's like it's terrible i can't believe you've never
watched that yeah it's so time consuming you know it's time consuming writing a fucking book
career that's time consuming is like yeah you find the time that's fair that's fair that's a challenge
i'll accept that it is it is very time consuming that was the first thing that turned me off about it
like my friends like you gotta watch the show and this was like when it was season three and
i watched the first episode and i was like how many episodes are in this fucking season
they're like i think it was like 10 or some or 13 i was like dude i'm not gonna fucking sit here
13 hours of fucking shit i like no yeah imagine me what do i have six seasons yeah now you have
five seasons are you kidding me which is that's a lot of fucking time i'll try i've been saying i
i mean i have to start i can't go through life without having seen that so no you can't but if
i could do that and write a second book at the same time like yeah i mean you just would never
sleep i guess yeah i mean you don't sleep much come on i don't and i it's bad i do you see my face
i kind of look like you your face looks like you got it like like you use like the dick mold to
make a new face yeah my face is all fucked up i barely especially this week i've been all out of
whack yesterday i for whatever reason i've been waking up wired at four a.m and going to bed at
one o'clock that makes no sense what the fuck is going on and but i forced myself to go back to sleep
but then i wake up at like i can't not wake up at like eight thirty so i get up and then i just
look like you know it doesn't like every every like three days my sister sees me she goes are you
sick i'm like no i'm just fucking tired i don't i think it just comes from staring at a fucking
screen i was i was gonna say that that's like i can't not do that like i'm just always scrolling
through my phone like in bed and then i just like to think of the weirdest or just can't fall asleep
yeah and just like maybe you should read a book before bed i really should i actually have a book
i've been reading um you know every so often since what third grade or the one you never
returned to the library what's that red fish blue fish he doesn't even know what the fuck you don't
even know who wrote that one fish two fish red fish blue fish dr seuss there you know but it was
some book called disrupt you i heard it on a podcast it was pretty cool but i'm gonna start reading uh
yeah i'll put you right to sleep yeah i actually really enjoy it i because i'm all you know what it
is at this point in my life i just always try to add more things to my plate which is fucking dumb
i've honestly reached the point where i'm done like i for the longest time especially this past year
i would just take things and keep adding them to my plate and just trying to maintain all of them
and i've been doing like a good job as far as like organizing my time and putting you know
the proper amount of effort into each thing but now i'm just i've reached the point where i'm like
all right you're done dude like you can't do any more things i there's actually a story in my book
about that i call it james franco syndrome because i'm the same way and like if you look at james
franco and a lot of people don't know like okay he's an actor he has however many movies come out a
year he also he's like a professor at like four different like colleges right now like all across
the country he like has to fly out like one day every week to like teach a class he was teaching
class at nyu he's also i think was attending columbia was attending yell he's written like
how the fuck do you attend both those places yeah he's he's written like three books and this is
all simultaneously at the same time he was he was in that play he's directed like two films
and i'm the same way it's like i just there's so many creative things i want to explore that i just
i just always pack it on the plate so it's it's called james franco syndrome that's what you have
yeah i guess you're diagnosed i just always feel like like people used to ask me like back in the
day when the only thing i really had going for me was the youtube thing i mean i guess that's still
true but so back in the day though when i was like on the come up uh people would ask me like
like i had like a hundred thousand subscribers so it was kind of like okay you have this thing
you're not you're not like a fucking millionaire or anything but you i can see the direction you're
going but what is the end result what do you want to do and i never had an answer for it because i'm
like some days i wake up and i want to do this so i'll do that or if i want to do this then i'll
do that you know i i don't i don't like limiting myself because i say it all the time especially
on this podcast like a little i'll go on random motivational rants and i really feel like i can
do pretty much anything that i really wanted to and that's why i just keep adding shit you know
and now just for the sake of i don't have enough hours in the day and i don't have anyone helping
me because i refuse that's another problem that i have i've refused to start to delegate sometimes
yeah i gotta like and i'm i'm gonna start uh in 2017 start delegating so that i can for your
resolution yeah hopefully yeah i gotta start delegating because that that'll help me like
tremendously because i i do like i'm at the point now where i know that it's too much now it's not
that it's too much now it's just if i add another thing it's too much because sometimes i'll forget
things and i hate doing that you know i like being organized and and being ahead on everything
are you a perfectionist when it comes to the things you do yeah and honestly like this video
this podcast will go out on monday but the video i put out yesterday hate it i thought it was so
bad right so i don't know what what do you think was bad about it i don't watch it before i came
here it's hilarious i but like see and my my mom said the same thing my dad called me he never
like calls me about a video called me just to tell me how funny it was and i was just like
i hated it like i just i don't know like i filmed it first of all i filmed it like three times
because the first time through i was like that was terrible like i need i didn't even get all the way
through like i got like through whatever the first couple of whatever and i was just kind of like
delete this i need to do it again and then i did it again and i deleted and did it again
and when i was editing it after i was done i watched the entire thing and i was like
debating about not putting it out because i was just have you ever missed a day yeah i've
missed days before like i i missed a lot too like a year and a half ago i would say no i
like before i started my new channel so this uh this is probably over two years ago then
because i think i've had my new channel for two years but on the old one i used to miss a lot
because i was just like lazy i guess you know what i mean and just spoiled like i was just this
fucking kid who was getting hundreds of thousands of views every week i put even if i put something
out that was shitty yeah you know which i should i even like i never i've never put out a video
that i truly hated this video i just put out on tuesday i think what i could have been better
that's what i mean by i hated it because i feel like it could have been better the videos that i
put out when i first started i think are good content but i think they could be like light
years better so i hate them okay you know i think that that could be a good quality though or it just
shows that evolution it's like the the conor mcgregor fight that we were at everyone said like
flawless performance which it looked flawless yeah and i know i was reading something or
an interview with him after and he was in the locker room right after the fight watching the
tape and just beating himself up like oh my footwork there was so sloppy and it's like you should
see the things that no one else is going to see yeah it just felt like bad like i don't know it was
just you know so i guess i'm kind of a perfectionist when it comes to that but you know i was just
being nice as the worst video i've ever seen dude i yeah i honestly you know luckily i have friends
that will tell me if shit sucks i mean i didn't even ask ask them this time because they don't
watch them anymore they're like i don't fucking care because like whatever i like they've all
heard it me say all this shit before so it's not like anything new to them but yeah i don't i don't
know for some reason i was filming i was just like oh god i don't like this like i've honestly
in the past filmed a video edited it and then didn't put anything out because it was already too
late at that point because i filmed and i shoot and shit on tuesdays because i'm a fucking idiot but
i filmed it edited it and then i'm watching it i'm like i'm not putting this out this is garbage
and i'll just trash it and throw it away and it's just like you just did all that work for hours and
i refuse to put shit out that's like garbage you know yeah i mean it could be good i i have a hard
time like even flipping open my book now because the publishing process is so long i was 25 when i
got the book deal and i just turned 27 now like that's great before you said that i was like he's
30 he's 32 now but yeah i mean it's a long process so obviously i i feel like i've evolved
a ton as a writer i don't think any of the stories are bad i think i'm proud of all them but even
still like looking back seeing some of the things that i would have done differently i'm not mad at
it but like you always see those yeah it's good to see the progression of like where you started
and like how you can be like oh well you know at least i got better at this than that if you waited
to put something out until you really thought you were at your peak at that time just never gonna
come you'd have nothing yeah i mean it really depends what kind of like person you are some people
will just especially people who are in my position they'll just put out dark shit like every three
days they'll put out some bullshit or something yeah they're the worst like people ask me on twitter
too they're like why don't you put out you know two or three videos a week i'm like first of all wow
no fucking shot like are you crazy first of all writing these videos is so like first of all it's
very easy for me to to write up a video now like it's just like second nature at this point but
coming up with things that are like just coming up with ideas for videos is like tough
it's just like like i could talk about anything forever like and make it funny like i don't think
that's like the hard part but uh just coming up with like topics and she was like yeah no way i
could do that like three times a week i have a hard time doing it once a week on tuesdays it's like
fucking 2 p.m i'm like rolling out of bed yeah i'm like shit what am i doing now
because the rest of the week i'm doing all this other shit podcasting and you got a full plate
yeah i like it though you know why i did that because i feel like no matter what i'm undeserving
for what i'm getting so i have to work hard you know what i mean so i feel better about myself no
no it's uh well first like the deeper this conversation gets i the more i notice your socks
which are fire pink with neon hearts on them yeah very very soothing uh yeah but what was i
gonna say i said someone about the deeper this conversation gets i'm sorry for throwing you
off there it did that's it that's all i got i totally totally no when i was talking about
how i feel undeserving right right yeah i have days too where it's like you you feel like if you're
not pushing yourself like like what am i doing like i'm lucky to even be here so yeah how could i
not be working right now like why am i still like playing battlefield like three hours later and i
didn't write anything which is a great fucking game by the way that's actually my uh my sponsor today
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like any type of if any fucking brand name comes up like if you go to their site you go to porch
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thing maybe maybe that'd be fucking maybe they'll hear that and just like enact that that'd be great
man i have no use for a car though like my car costs like 200 a month it's awesome i i love not
having a car yeah i mean i really i really don't need it at all like you're spoiled we get it yeah
it's just you know you're spoiled we get it it helps but you know it's not a necessity especially
living in new york city like why the fuck would you know and you you live your bus stop is right
outside your apartment you walk outside you get on the bus you get on the train you're chilling
but i'm a trooper i still walk i let that pass every day see that's the difference until it gets
yeah and then fuck that that's how you write a book oh my god speaking of public transportation
too you uber all the time right nowadays yeah not like all the time but you know uber it's
it's convenient i think i'm the only person i'll say only person in new york maybe the world and
this is in my book too who has seen his uber driver cry wow i had an uber driver cry to me
did you do that i didn't do it no i was you just opened them up and you like you went deep i think
i was like hey dude tell me about your dad and he was like oh fuck man this guy he it's it's
weird because well it started when i realized that you have a passenger rating on uber yeah
i so i'm sorry to cut you off no but my my uh who the fuck told me that some someone told me that
that you get a rating as a passenger yeah what and then he showed me how to do it and i looked it up
and i had a 4.6 i was like type 4.6 yeah i was like what do they do but now it's up now i'm 4.8
so i had a five i had a solid five at one point what and i found out not even because i like went
through the app to look but the the drivers can see the way that you can see their rating they can
see your rating right so drivers would pick me up and they'd be like oh my god they treat me like
i was royalty they'd be like oh you're a five star customer like oh my god this is like unbelievable
i like made their night i'm like oh yeah cool celebrity in the underground world i run the
uber world and they like they just love it was insane and they're like like it's an honor to i've
literally been told it's an honor to drive you because i had a five star rating because apparently
no one has a five star rating no so that changed uber for me forever because i was like well
shit now i have to maintain this five star rating and like i can't just relax in the back of the car
i have to like be the most charismatic person of all time i have to like yeah so that's what i
started doing and it just like took over my life because i'll uber a lot like probably way too much
and just every car ride like if like i'm not even a mezz fan but like if like my uber driver was
wearing a mezz hat like i'd like oh man that game last night like i was just everyone's best friend
and it's weird because by doing that these drivers just like really started opening up yeah and i
had just this one guy i'll never forget it i was playing basketball where we used to play yeah uh
and i got an uber back from the city to Astoria and this guy just like we're like on the bridge
mid bridge and he's just like tonight's the night that i tell my wife that i was unfaithful
and i'm like hold on one second he initiated it like i was quiet like it was late it was
after basketball i was like i think if i just like chill in the back of this uber i could still get
five stars like i'm not you know i don't have the energy right now that was the first thing he said
first thing he said to me this guy needed to tell someone he was yeah and i was like oh
like i'm sure i'm sure she'll understand like he's like no no i like i'm a terrible man this is like
the lowest of low that i've ever been well like i'm unfaithful i'm just like uh like i don't know
what to say i in the back of my mind i'm like this guy's gonna give me like two stars now
because i don't have any good words of advice just crumbling you're in the back seat word about
your fucking uber rating oh no is this gonna affect my rating but that was uh that was powerful
i didn't really have much to say back i was just like i mean i think you're doing the right thing
i wish you luck so i mean good luck to that guy i never talked to him again obviously but
but yeah after that i had like conspiracy theorists just like going off about like how like reptiles
like run the government and i'm like i'm just in the back like agreeing i was like you know what
like i couldn't agree more because just give me five stars like i need to keep this rating so that
was strange but i found out of course from one driver i got in and he's like like oh you have a
really great rating i'm like i know i know you know it's it's hard but you know maintain that five
and he's like no no five that's like impossible you have a 4.8 and like i like my my world crumbled
good night that was it and uh oh so i don't i don't even know i haven't even looked since then
but don't yeah you shouldn't worry about those things too much yeah i know right you took it
way too seriously i mean with great power it comes a great responsibility and you get a 5.0 you
gotta really maintain that but um do you tip on uber no there's there's not even an option to tip
i mean like in person no that defeats the purpose of uber exactly right so this is bullshit because
someone told me right same same person who told me about the uber uh of my this kid frankie that i
know so he told me about the uber and i was just like dude i wish he didn't tell me that because
i would be so fucking like stressed out in the back of this uber like please just give me a five
star uh but i went through a phase where i was like desperate you know i had four six yeah you
gotta get that up so i was like yeah thanks but i'll give him two dollars paid for your rating
all right wow and it worked i guess one of those one of those go hard uh parents with a teacher
yeah with their dumb kid yeah give me eight merry christmas here's a yeah but benderman franklin's
i was just so stressed out about it so i didn't know but i remember when uber first came out
there was that option to tip you could put i think so yeah it's like what percent do you
want to tip every time so i didn't i don't fucking know what the upgrades or whatever so i
i just thought it was going and then he told me no you got a tip i was like what no way i was like
do you so i i tip for a while and i was just like i'm not tipping anymore that's and i haven't done
in a while but my rating is chill i'm like a 4a right now i'm pretty sure you check every night
i don't i had checked when i checked a while ago dude i was in uber the other night hilarious
it was this russian guy i wish i remembered his name but it was cool he was like a nice guy the
entire time and we're on the williamsburg bridge and and he's trying to get over and a bus like
cuts us off but this guy has no fear like typical russian yeah you know guy he's just like no fear
stops the car and the bus is like i'm in the backseat it's i if i stuck my hand out my arm
wouldn't be fully extended and i'd be palming the bus like that's how close it was so he's just
standing there though not looking at the car not moving his out of the way and staring at the
bus driver and pointing at him he's like what is this guy doing right so i was like yoyo
in the backseat like oh god and then he's like you see this guy you don't fucking like he said
some shit right and then the bus goes are driving away he goes he i can't do a russian accent but
he goes i love this country but the one thing i hate about this country is that i can't get out
and beat this motherfucker's head into the concrete that's like the first thing he said that definitely
happens all the time in russia holy fuck yeah and i was like where are you from he goes russia i'm
like doesn't sound like there's much traffic over there everyone's dead from there he's like no it's
no traffic but yeah and then later we were driving we're like in in downtown Manhattan and he uh
stopped the car to give this homeless guy money i was like look at this it's kind of nice savage
right what a mystery what a guy i respect uber drivers so much yeah you probably see a lot of
drivers they're just they're so wise it's crazy some like that's why i started like i actually
started the notes in my phone which is the title of the story it was the uber diaries and it was like
like who are these people they're like mystic like i guess when you're just just like mystic
driving mythical like oh my god but when you just meet that many people and
just get all these different world views i guess you just have some knowledge to spread i don't
talk to uber drivers enough honestly you gotta start yeah i do sometimes i get into good conversations
with people but it's it might affect your rating but it could help there's one one predicament i was in
was i had the uber the slowest uber driver in the world like he was following the speed limit
like 25 miles per hour on like side roads and like 40 on a highway and i had to get to the
airport and i was already late um and i had to pee really really bad like top five of my life maybe
top three and yeah that's and like you know every guy keeps that count so it's that was serious i
can tell you the worst time i've had to shit myself right now see everyone i did shit myself
that's how bad did you i have shit myself like how old were you i was like 15 way older than i
should have been like couldn't make it though i was playing basketball it was point game what
am i gonna leave no we lost and then i lost the lawyer but this guy i was like i i want to keep
my rating this is back when i still you know it was flawless and i'm like but like i want to tell
him to hurry up because i'm gonna pee in his uber and that'll give me a zero rating so i'm like
excuse me um like maybe a little faster i just like i really have to go to the bathroom and this
guy just like whips his head around and just goes off on this rant about like he's from like turkey
and this is the only job that he has right now and if he goes over the speed limit he's gonna lose his
job and then his family's gonna hate him and like his wife's gonna leave him and he can't provide
and it was just this like 10 minute rant like i feel like it was turned around looking at me the
whole time and like still driving yeah and i'm just like oh my god like okay and then he just looks
me dead in the eyes and he's like is your pee more important than my family like how did it get to
this point like dude i just got a pee please is your pee more important than my family so maybe
you're just like yeah maybe that is the guy who destroyed my five star rating i don't know
is your pee more important than my family that is one for the ages if that happened to me i would
have gotten a tattoo it on my rib now i just i put it in a book same thing yeah immortalize it you
know make sure people know about it exactly that's great so that's the kind of shit that's in your
book yeah that's some of it but there's there's the life lessons too right there's you know it all
like that story like you like that's too much power to be able to judge someone like that and you
shouldn't you know you shouldn't worry about having a flawless like perfection it doesn't exist is
there a deeper meaning behind like pretty much all of these uh stories yeah i think so i mean
not like forced meaning but i you know for me i just tried to every essay is at least a situation
as comical as it may be uh it's still something that you know changed me or taught me some sort
of lesson so there's yeah yeah i think anything that's worth writing about has it has to tie
together it has to yeah and that just kind of shapes you and mold you and shit yeah i just
tried to do it in the most relatable way so you know it's easy to say don't strive to be perfect
that doesn't exist but it's more fun to tell a story about crazy uber drivers and then make that
point right exactly that's dope man i really like that i'm proud of you greg that means a lot i mean
it's it's our book together your name's on it too everyone uh go pick up joe sanagawa's book the art
of living my book a lot i'm not gonna have my own page my face on it wow i mean it could be dedicated
to you you don't know in loving memory even though i'm alive wow that would when i get to the point
if i have like my like tenth book out i'm totally doing stuff like that like i won't care in loving
memory of whoever whatever 1992 to start dedicating it to uber drivers it doesn't matter yeah random
javier i had a bus driver once who was like the coolest guy when i was in high school i was taking
a bus home and he had a weird name but it was like a like a really nice happy name like charity or
like some shit like like i don't it was like charity or like you know i don't even know it sounds
like a stripper's name you know what now that i think about it like an ironic stripper yeah charity
charity right but he would always like sing on the bus like on the ps first of all he'd be he
get on the he was like a dj he'd be like whose birthday is it and then i would raise my hand
he'd buy a happy birthday and then he'd do this whole like dance and shit not like dance but he
would like sing and uh man i forgot his name his name was like sunshine or like it was something
like positive you know okay sounded like a positive influence on your life and i'm just like oh god
like and and that was cool because just to see someone who's like uh they have a job that not
everyone necessarily not desirable for you know but they do it to the best of their ability the other
day i went to a store uh i forgot the name of it oh anthropology i was buying something for my mom
i actually love that store yeah it's a pretty cool place uh but uh i went in there and the woman
behind the cashier was just so like hi how like just like on top of her she's like i thought she did
a ton of blow beforehand but when i really think about it i'm like this woman is just doing her
job like to the you know what i mean like the best you possibly can you have to you have to respect
that you're just interacting with people all day too like yeah yeah like don't be a piece of
shit because you hate your job like yo just fucking do your job that's why people who are like mean to
waiters and stuff like that's the worst oh my god i will never in my work in my life be mean to a
waiter don't don't do that or anything and and being uh i used to deliver pizzas so i i'm i'm like
as like the bottom of the totem pole like you don't even exist yeah like the door opens they
don't even see you it's just the floating here's your shit go yeah but it was it was cool because
you know i could probably write a book on my experiences doing that honestly there's a lot
of cool shit that happened to me when i was see i like jobs like that and i liked working
working on a league daily because i would take the train every day and you would always see some
like i literally saw a homeless dude sit up and scream suck my nine inch dick like as loud as he
could and the you know what's weird the first thought that popped into my mind was like
wow good for him he's got a nine inch dick like i completely disagree with the fact that he was
saying it in a train full of people in new york city i was just kind of like so used to it this guy's
got his dick yo and he's saying it the whole time staring at this poor little asian woman who was
just trying to get home and he's just like she could feel imagine he picked her up that way wow
he's probably done it homeless joe homeless joe homeless joe yeah it's possible yeah people
have no idea we're talking about no we did a video explaining we did a video with a lead daily that
was his homeless dude named joe who was living two blocks from the office and he was homeless but he
would he would uh what's it called panhandle yeah he would panhandle and and make whatever money he
did and and uh he would wash his clothes and do his hair he like stole gel from cvs right he like
always did his laundry like he if you if he walked into the office you would never know you would be
like oh okay we're interviewing someone new right that's so weird i actually wrote about him in the
book too yeah yeah i needed like i'm not gonna say like a filler but it was a point where i definitely
had writer's block and i was trying to like think back back on stories and i was like wow this was
like a crazy story like the stuff this guy did and like how we like ended up meeting him because
people in the office saw him and they're like this rumor started yeah like yeah what is this guy he
like looks well dressed but he's panhandling yeah what is that made no sense and he was making so
much money yeah it was weird but this guy would pick up chicks all the time and he was homeless so
he would stay at their place yeah and like shower do his laundry yeah and he went viral
i remember i took a picture with him where he had a sign that said internet sensation yeah
i had a sign next to him that said washed up because at the time i was he had a great comeback
though no one believed in you but you showed them ready to come back you know now for a minute
homeless joe was on top he was he was yeah that he had an absurd number of like women he said what
it was like 258 years or more it was insane 258 years something crazy good lord it was like
three a week or i don't know bad at math but that's crazy how do you do that
well one charming guy you uh he actually said something in the video where he's like
if you can't get laid in in new york city you're a fucking douchebag yeah you're an asshole yeah
if you could do it and i was like wow god i'm a fucking asshole yeah i'll tell you how he did it
it's when you the sound story here is because i also wrote about this in the book but it's not
there's all these themes are adding up yeah but there was a period where uh me and my friend my
old my older mate phil who i've known him since kindergarten we grew up across the street together
we both got out of long break uh long relationships and we started studying like pickup artistry
and all those techniques and like crazy like the meaner you are to a girl like
the more she would like you like nagging them and like all these like weird body language
techniques like if you approach a girl like stand facing the door so she feels like you'll leave
at any time and she like fights for your attention or if there's a group of like five girls and you
see like the one that you're attracted to talk to all her friends before you talk to her because
then it's like she should be like wait i'm the one who always gets hits on right like what's going on
i don't condone any of that very controversial techniques it's just you know just be nice be
yourself but the biggest takeaway is just not fearing rejection and like homeless joe like
if he saw a girl like within three seconds he would just approach them start a conversation
and like that's it like someone's gonna say yes which is like really
like i mean it's i mean it's gonna i'm gonna say awesome but like it's not at the same time but
it's awesome in the sense of like that confidence of just being able to just go up to exactly right
away confidence is good yeah just just like i'm not like i'm i consider myself a confident person
but i can't like just do that out of nowhere like across the bar like just walk up to someone right
away and just do it it's hard mostly because i know how they're like how women are approached
for the most part in bars and it's sort of it's most of the time it's negative so it's kind of
like i feel like i'm putting myself at a disadvantage here so i kind of like try to either just stand
near so that if i hear something we can engage that way like i try to find something right and
know it is now that i'm saying it out loud it sounds weird but like to just wait outside the
bathroom no no no no like say anything like if there if there's a group of girls like standing
near the bar then i'll just like go toward the bar not go directly to them but stand near there
so that maybe there's an off chance that you know it's it's creepy no matter how you put it but
i get it i get it what what else do you do i don't know it's tough yeah it's tough thing it's hard
it's hard not to sound fucking weird and do this um we're gonna wrap this up here we've been doing
this for an hour look at that beautiful beautiful hitting it uh great thank you for having uh thank
you for having me great anytime man come by i'm just so used to saying that good good luck on your
book hope it does well yeah it comes out january third right january third and you're on it Greg
you're on the back okay we're gonna stop the roll over because people really get confused
but your book is out january third in in random stores in a deli yeah you could get it one deli
local bow dig no it's uh it's it's it's available for pre-order right now it's actually on sale on
amazon even without the code basement uh but yeah you could pre-order it now um or it comes out
january third barns and obel independent bookstores um yeah i don't know that's all i know and there's
an event at barns and obel in tribeca on january third so it's like a reading and a signing and
all that so that's fucking should be a fun time that's so fucking cool i'm gonna try to come to
that definitely come because i'll never experience that ever again probably because you're the only
shot that if you come i'll give you a shout out yeah i was gonna say i'm gonna be like yeah i did it
my work all me i'm the editor what does your blurb even say i don't even remember it's it's i think
they might have edited it really yeah i said something like i i don't read a book but this
like i said something like that well like i enjoyed something i think they cut the beginning
off and it now it might just say i enjoyed every minute because i think they're like at first they
were like this is funny but then it's like wait like we have this is on a book yeah that makes
sense something's on there all right so that's your book uh where can they find you if they want to
contact you on social media just at greg diebeck very simple how do you spell diebeck d y b e c
the government is a name i don't know anyone else with that name no me either so you're the only guy
only one one of a kind uh yep and that's all and thanks for listening you motherfuckers