The Bechdel Cast - Blade Runner with Hampton Yount

Episode Date: October 5, 2017

Today we're talking about Blade Runner with guest Hampton Yount! Are Jamie and Caitlin Replicants? Or are they RepliCANS?  (This episode contains spoilers)Follow @Hamptonyount on Twitter! While you'r...e there, you should also follow @BechdelCast, @caitlindurante and @hamburgerphone  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:38 or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On the Bechdelcast, the questions asked if movies have women in them. Are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands or do they have individualism? The patriarchy's effing vast. Start changing it with the Bechdelcast. All right, well, it's the first day after the worst day. Ooh, good one. First day after the worst day is the Bechdel cast. My name is Jamie. My name is Caitlin. And yesterday we tried to stalk Alfred Molina
Starting point is 00:02:09 here and then I had a panic attack and Caitlin got scared and we didn't say hi. Yeah. But today is another day. And that's not to say that we are going to see Alfred Molina today. We're not. We pretty effectively fucking blew that. But all I have to say is the first day after the worst day has been a real 24 hours I've actually been reflecting a lot about it what are you thinking I had like an hour long conversation last night with a dear friend about how
Starting point is 00:02:36 I can have something four feet away and still not say hey you're my top google image search I wouldn't open with that. He's right there. He's right there. If you ever do get a chance to meet Alfred Molina, don't open with that.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Hi, I'm a pervert. I'm very sick in the head and I love you. Yeah. I don't know. Anyways, so welcome to the Bechtel cast. What's it about? Right. The portrayal of women in movies.
Starting point is 00:03:03 And usually it's not great. Boo. The portrayal of women in movies and usually it's not great. Boo. That one was for women. It was for women. Boo women. Our guest hates women. That's my main credit. If you're wondering
Starting point is 00:03:18 Piece of shit. If you're wondering what Bechdel cast what does that mean? It's inspired by The Bechdel Test which requires that a movie has two characters. They're women. They have names.
Starting point is 00:03:29 They talk to each other. Not about a man. About anything else. Too much to ask. Too much to ask. Too much. Most of the time. It's like a terrorist list of demands.
Starting point is 00:03:41 We need two women. Those women are going to need names. Not about Ryan Gosling. They've got to talk about their dreams. Yeah. Hey, do you want to be introduced at all? Oh, sorry. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:03:53 He hates women. He's a pro wrestler. No, it's me, Hampton. Yeah, well, I was going to do it for you. I'm a comic. I'm a funny guy. I'm indifferent towards men and women, largely. There's really no emotion either way.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Well, I think that that's progressive in its own beautiful way. Well, isn't it also a little binary there? I'm saying men and women. What about non-binary so much uh you might know hampton from being the voice of crow on mystery science theater 3000 oh my god uh this is the new one yeah yeah oh my god it's good i love it so good i have a i have a i have a full case of energy drinks of like really like Porsche level energy drinks. You've like pounded half of one already. Yeah, it's called Uptime.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Mental, physical, energy supplement, original, ginseng, ginkgo, bib, bloba. Ginkgo, boba, bloba? It's like the one word that it's a medicine that helps you remember things well. So clearly it's not fucking working. Or it debilitated my ability to form words. It's taking that away from your brain. Chico DiBloba, Coen's, I'm Q10. Hey, let's talk about movies.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yeah. Okay, we're here to talk about Blade Runner. Boo. I like it. Right. I actually like it. So Hampton, tell us about when did you first see this movie? What's your history?
Starting point is 00:05:27 It's the best movie ever. Second best movie, Boondock Saints. Boondock Saints, Redux. I don't know. I like the movie. I watched it when I was a teen and I think I saw the bad version first. Which one's the bad version? The bad version is the one that has the narrator. Oh, I didn the bad version first. Which one's the bad version? The bad version is the one that has the narrator.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Oh, I didn't see that one. Harrison Ford hated doing it so much that he did it badly, like on purpose. He was narrating it? Yeah, the studio was like, this movie is unfollowable. So they're kind of like, he should do this narration that's always like,
Starting point is 00:06:03 my wife used to call me cold fish because i was a cold fish in bed but it's like shots of him like looking down a dark alleyway and it's just like insanely like weird jokes and shit like over it but it's like you know the whole movie is like only works because it's this like neo-noir thing and i really hold it in the same brain space as like akira that's like oh yeah it's like you're the first people who did like dystopian future thing. So it's cool. I don't know. I like it a lot.
Starting point is 00:06:31 It's maybe like a once a year kind of watch. Okay, sure. Do you watch it about once a year? Yeah, I watch a lot of movies though. So I mean, that's like, you know. Brag. What do you do for a living? Make fun of bad movies?
Starting point is 00:06:44 Jamie, when did you first see it? This morning. Jesus Christ. I got home. The perfect time is early in the AM. Here's a dystopian novel in itself. I got home. I lost my key.
Starting point is 00:06:59 My roommate had to let me in. In a world where the shower are slowly disappearing it turned out i haven't had a shower curtain in months where's the shower curtain so what i do is i place my laptop on my sink so i can half watch a movie while i was showering for the whole shower i thought harrison ford Ford was Liam Neeson. And then... What? He was doing... I think that Harrison Ford... Okay, I would make the argument Harrison Ford doing a bad
Starting point is 00:07:36 job is about equivalent to Liam Neeson doing a good job. Liam Neeson is, I have a very special set of skills to find my wife. And Harrison Ford is like, my wife. If you don't bring back my wife, I'm going to lose it. Wow, I am good at voices. Guys, hire me more.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I'm fucking unemployed. Give Hampton a job. Give me a job, Hollywood. Yeah, so did you ever see it? I have seen the movie, yes. What shitty boyfriend made you watch it? No, I just watched it on my own volition. I was like, I'm a freshman in college, and I'm a film major, and I gotta watch this movie.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Yeah. Oh, it's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have two degrees. I have a master's degree in screenwriting from Boston University. I just think college is kind of a waste, so that's a fun degree. You know, that sounds like a good use of your time. Yeah, I had a great time.
Starting point is 00:08:31 So, yeah, I think I saw it for the first time in college, and then I've seen it now probably four or five times since then. So you like it? No. I don't. I've seen it so many times. I don't understand. This movie stinks
Starting point is 00:08:46 alright guys we gotta take a hot break here wait why do you like this movie what about it is fun for you what is fun for it hmm that's an interesting question
Starting point is 00:08:56 I don't know maybe other than I just stylistically like that sort of thing I like sci-fi I like weird dystopian tales about the future
Starting point is 00:09:04 so do I and also like I like movies thatstopian tales about the future. So do I. And also, I like movies that are kind of about identity, even if it's kind of lame. That's the one thing is I do realize a lot of my tastes are really childish. It's like I still read comic books. I'm a complete idiot about things I like. But I mean, it's also like,
Starting point is 00:09:22 can't you just like shitty things? Yes. Like what's so wrong with liking pop music or something? Oh, I like all kinds of mean, it's also like, can't you just like shitty things? Yes. Like what's so wrong with like, you know, pop music or something. Oh, I like all kinds of bad stuff. Yeah, exactly. But the reason, so I think I liked this movie the first time I saw it, or I think I was just influenced by knowing that it's you know, one of the best sci-fi movies ever made and I was supposed to like it. So I was confused. I was 18. I didn't know any better. And then I watched it again. I was like, wait a minute. Sounds like drugs. I didn't know any better. And then I watched it again. I was like, wait a minute. I don't think I like it.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I fell in this world. I was peer pressured. It was at a party. I was peer pressured into Lady Blade Runner. It just felt like we were all supposed to be doing it. You're sitting in a circle of college freshmen, and they're all passing around the DVD for Blade Runner. You're like, I guess I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:09:59 That is actually extremely accurate. That's exactly why I've seen Boondock Sage, Donnie Darko. Donnie Darko! All these movies that are the exact same terrible movie. But they're good, but they're bad. It's also like, look at most movies. They're awful. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:10:15 They're bad. So if anybody even kind of went to art school, I'm like, all right, here we go. Something a little bit better. I appreciate Blade Runner for it has great production design. I think that's one of the reasons that it's become such an iconic movie. And I enjoy the world building. I don't think the story is executed very well. And I don't feel anything.
Starting point is 00:10:35 The movie does not elicit any emotions in me. I don't care if Deckard wins and kills all the... That's interesting. I could see that. The replicants were slaves. No wonder they're going to fucking kill everybody. Oh, yeah. They're like, these guys suck.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I'm kind of on their side. Dear Philip K. Dick. I mean, yeah. I mean, it's like, that's just robots in general, right? Like, why are we making robots? It's every... Like, Elon Musk is like, stop. This is going to kill everyone.
Starting point is 00:11:07 All scientists are like, AI will eventually replace us. It just seems like this thing we should totally be swimming back from, not like going forward. Yeah, and we're still at a point where we're like, we could just stop. Well, I don't know. The computers, they're just so smart.
Starting point is 00:11:23 We might have hit the point of no return. I don't know. I saw a car last night and it looked like a shark. Oh, God. Well, yeah, I guess it's like... Do you feel like there's movies, though, that talk about stuff? No. Yeah. Consciousness or, like, you know, if a soul is real or something.
Starting point is 00:11:44 You know, kind of kind of like in that vein that isn't sci-fi like i feel like these are the only movies that address deeper largely yeah you know and i i like sci-fi a lot there's no like movie that's like a rom-com it's like he doesn't have a soul he's a robot. But in his memory, they'll kill everyone. I generally like sci-fi a lot. It's one of my favorite genres. But this movie... You know what's good? Gattaca.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I like Gattaca, okay? I like Gattaca a lot. Yeah. That's probably my favorite. No way. No way. Cool. No way.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Cool. You guys should, like, hang out and be friends. Let's be friends. Do you want to come on my movie podcast? I think... Retroactively? Like, it's also, like, beautiful, the thing with, like, hang out and be friends. Do you want to come on my movie podcast? I think, um... Retroactively? Like, it's also, like, beautiful, the thing with, like, Blade Runner.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I don't know. Like, you could argue it's lame, sure. Like, as a lot of things I like that I find beautiful, I'm like, well, you could also call this stupid. But, like, you know, it's, like, the soliloquies, you know, like, the shots. It's, like, more effort, I feel, applied than a lot ofies, you know, like the shots, like more effort, I feel, applied than a lot of movies, you know?
Starting point is 00:12:50 It's not like a self-conscious movie and that's always kind of nice to see where it's like not there's no like sarcasm exercise, like everything is very genuinely felt, even when it's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. They feel it, they go through it all the way, like so've ever seen. They feel it. They go through it all the way.
Starting point is 00:13:05 So that's kind of nice to see. Do you feel like that relationship between him and the robot girl? I mean, it's all very odd, right? Because it's so immediate. It's like they have no relationship. And then they're kissing. And then suddenly they're fucking.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And then at the end he's like, do you love me I love you even though we met fucking yesterday do you want to be my wife you're gonna get abducted I'm sure it's just like in Men in Black where Will Smith gets to take over Men in Black on his second day on the job
Starting point is 00:13:37 just like okay cool now he's the boss and that's just how this movie works it's exactly like Men in Black. I love Men in Black. Is Harrison Ford the Blade Runner? Is he the one running with the blade? They're blade running.
Starting point is 00:13:55 They're running blades across the borders. They're running blades. I was waiting for that phrase to be used. You run the blade before the blade runs you, dog. Did you ever get into that whole thing where it's like, he's a robot? I thought about that.
Starting point is 00:14:17 He's a robot, and that's why everything's happening kind of the way it is. Is that why Harrison Ford's doing so much bad acting in this movie? Kind of. He was like, well, the character's a robot. And then when they added the voiceover, that's why he got so mad. He was like, you're making this guy
Starting point is 00:14:34 like opposite of why I signed on board. Harrison Ford's cool. He smokes pot. He's cool. He's really proud of his pot smoking. Well, at least now we know that he can't be a replicant because he is in this sequel that's coming out and he's an old man stupid and we learn from the replicants only live for four years so he so he definitely wasn't a robot but then they find
Starting point is 00:14:59 out that there was more money to be made right, that's just their whole reason. It's like, yes, we did say that, but it says here. But it turns out there's an asterisk. If we can make money 40 years from now, it really doesn't matter. Oh, we're going to do that. Well, to me, there were opportunities for reveals and exciting story components
Starting point is 00:15:23 that just doesn't happen in this movie. The movie is very slow moving to me yeah yeah um if there was the reveal at the end that that harrison ford was also a replicant like i'd be like wow i don't know what's that scene where they got the little origami it's like the unicorn yeah it's there it's because it's like that was in his dream so the guy wouldn't have known anyway this is literally how guys get like so into like movies and get online and we're just like oh and they're fucking unicorn if you spot it that's how you know he was being incepted i didn't realize that that was his fucking talisman dude look at the spinning top it kind of wavers at the end of inception that's how you know
Starting point is 00:15:59 his family's still alive well you're a fucking idiot for not knowing this thing I just found out about. It's probably why guys like it so much because it's such a great movie to shame other guys. To explain to people.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Yeah, yeah. Explaining things to people. It's like literally like this orgasmic release at the back of our heads. Explaining something? Well? Or even the perception of explaining something yeah i think it's the female equivalent of like when you like you know get closure
Starting point is 00:16:33 when we get closure you get closure on something oh but but one is you can just do it's hard to pull off it's hard to pull off a good explanation as a guy. Let me tell you why. Okay. I'm internally bleeding. Hey, how about I do the... This movie was written by two people who have fake-sounding names, one of whom is named Hampton Fancher.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Wait. Hampton Fancher? Hampton? Are you Hampton Fancher? I've literally, like, never seen another Hampton. Yeah, Hampton Fancher. Wait. Hampton Fancher? Hampton? Are you serious? I've literally never seen another Hampton. Yeah, Hampton Fancher. He co-wrote it with David Webb Peoples. That actually makes me feel weird.
Starting point is 00:17:13 David Peoples. Two fake-ass sounding names. I'm a fake-ass dude. Fake-ass dude, real-ass butt. That's my beer slogan. Hampton Fancher. And David Peoples. That's a fake name david peoples and it's adapted from the philip k dick book do androids dream of electric sheep no no grow up hey uh i'll do the recap okay blade runner is about uh okay we learn
Starting point is 00:17:41 i'm doing a great job so far so there are these things called replicants. They're robots that these genetic engineer dudes made to basically be slaves. It's set in 2019, which at the time this movie was made in 82, that was like, wow, so
Starting point is 00:18:00 far in the future. But now we're like, you dumb idiots, you got it all wrong. We're my fuck robots? It doesn't work. Where's my fuck robot? We got to warn Blade Runner about Trump. We got to go back in time to the future. Also, it doesn't rain in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:18:14 It's like raining in every single scene in this movie. I forgot that it is in Los Angeles. So there are these replicants, but they basically have this like mutiny and they start murdering people. Why wouldn't you? Right. these replicants but they basically have this like mutiny and they start murdering people and why wouldn't you right i would if i was enslaved i would also turn into a murderous robot call them different things than slaves see that's where they start getting suspicious start calling wait a minute you should call them stuff like uber driver and postmates you know not slaves right they're just freelancers yeah they're just freelancing as humans they're interns interns right unpaid interns they're getting experience
Starting point is 00:18:54 as people and uh it's a four-year internship and then you die so the replicants are like killing everybody killing everybody. Daryl Hannah's there. Daryl Hannah and then the dude named Roy. Daryl Hannah hot. Yeah. Yeah. Just my two cents. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I agree. And then there are these Blade Runners who are police officers who are basically given the instructions to, like, shoot to kill any replicants because they've been made illegal on earth so harrison ford aka deckard is one such blade runner and he gets tasked with finding these four replicants who show up they're like kill kill them um just like that yeah not an exciting movie got him he's over there he's right next to you dude just touch him he's over there. He's right next to you. Dude, just touch him. He's right there. Get him. And meanwhile, he meets with this dude, Terrell,
Starting point is 00:19:49 from the Terrell Corporation, who invented the replicants. And he has a replicant of his own. And her name is Rachel. And he's like, ooh, who's this Rachel person? Is she a person? Is she a replicant? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:20:03 So now I told you that Rachel was gonna be a droid. Cha-cha-cha-cha. I got the Rachel. It's where my brain got put in a robot's body. Oh, the haircut, but it's that. Yeah. And Harrison Ford talks me through foreplay that he wants. Say, Harrison, you're really cute. Harrison, you're really cute. Okay, now say, Harrison, you got good body, you got good hips.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Okay, Harrison, you got good body, you got good hips. Okay, now put your mouth on my mouth. I'm very sensitive about my hips I actually thought my Harrison Ford impression was way better Way better Showing I think you're tied Tied for first
Starting point is 00:20:54 I'm not even going to try mine Because it'll frankly embarrass both of you Take a sip of uptime It literally makes you good at impressions It makes you Jay Pharoah Slowly Okay so Rachel's all like Oh I don't know
Starting point is 00:21:11 I guess I'm a replicant She didn't know who she was at first And then she finds out that she's a replicant So she's all She's confused She's upset You fucking bastards She's crying up there
Starting point is 00:21:21 Yeah she's crying up there She's crying up there She's lying up there And then she's crying up there. Yeah, she's crying up there. She's crying up there. She's lying up there, and then she's crying up there. Meanwhile, the other replicants, the four who are on Earth, are trying to, especially Roy and Pris, are trying to locate Tyrell. They're trying what? He can locate Lynn.
Starting point is 00:21:43 What? Wow! Anyway. They're trying to find him because they think he's going to be able to help them live longer because again they only live for four years. And they're like at the end of their lifespan. Aristotle's crying right now. What a beautiful singing voice. That's the
Starting point is 00:22:09 Queen song. It's all about like, why would you... Anyway, it's about living forever. Because you wrote it for Highlander. It's like this super emotional song about being an immortal. What a weird paycheck. The best paycheck.
Starting point is 00:22:27 So, oh, and then Rachel's learning about memories being implanted in her and it's a whole thing and then he's falling in love with her and he's trying to kill the other replicants and then he kills a couple of them. He kills Zora and Pris.
Starting point is 00:22:44 The protagonist of this movie shoots two of the main... He shoots two women. And it's kind of like carte blanche. You're just allowed to shoot them. Yeah. There can be a crowd full of people. They're too dangerous.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Right. It's totally very odd. And it's totally fine because they're not wearing a lot of clothes. So they're going to look great going down. Oh, man. He's like Freddy Cougar. This dude's just trying to ice all the sexy chicks.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Dude, stop it. Let them live. Chris's death was genuinely like, come on. She was. She was cool. Very hot. She's flipping around. Very sexualized.
Starting point is 00:23:20 He shoots her mid-flip. She's flipping. She's flipping up there. Goldeneye wins Xenia on the top top in GoldenEye kills men with her vagina. Yeah. The deaths were too sexy. Yeah. Sexy deaths.
Starting point is 00:23:33 I got turned on too much. I was upset. I had to leave the theater. Horny. Mad. I demanded a refund. Excuse me. I wasn't betting on being horny at this film.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Excuse me. Excuse me, sir wasn't betting on being horny at this point. Excuse me. Excuse me, sir. That movie turned me on. I would like a cash refund. And then the big climactic scene is Roy, the big bad replicant. Batty boy. And Harrison Ford fight. The dutchie with the frosty tips.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Yeah, just bleach blonde hair. Pass the duchy to the left-hand side. He's so cool, man. Rutger Hauer, have you seen him in The Hitcher? No. In Hitch? Hitch is the sequel to The Hitcher. The Hitcher's really scary fun.
Starting point is 00:24:24 So Rutger Hauer has his own AIDS awareness organization. Amazing. the prequel to The Hitcher. The Hitcher's really scary fun. So, so, Rutger Hauer has his own AIDS awareness organization. Amazing. But it's funny because it's called the Rutger Hauer
Starting point is 00:24:31 Starfish Association. I wonder why that is. Yeah. Shouldn't he call it Chocolate Starfish Association? He gets, like, a limp biscuit
Starting point is 00:24:39 to perform all the benefits. He's in, why don't I, because he looks so familiar to me, but he's kind of just like, I thought he was Ed Harris for the longest time. What the fuck? Just like I thought Harrison Ford was Liam Neeson.
Starting point is 00:24:52 He looks like Ed Harris. That is so racist against straight white men. I am so goddamn turned on and mad right now. All right, anyway. So there's a big fight scene at the end and rather than Harrison Ford defeating Roy, who is, like, losing the battle,
Starting point is 00:25:12 like, Deckard is, like, shitty at fighting. He keeps pausing to give soliloquies. I'd punch you, but have you ever seen the fires of Orion? Roy just dies of old age. That is pretty funny. He basically does a... Yeah, power down.
Starting point is 00:25:33 So then Deckard goes to Rachel, his new girlfriend who we met yesterday, and he's like, I know that you're a replicant robot, but let's just run away together. And maybe I'm also a replicant. I don't know I mean like this is a happy happy romance yes I love story for the ages yeah I'd rather be tight movie if you're me mm-hmm bad movie if you're well let's talk about the how the women are portrayed in it so we have three main female characters none of them are human there are no human women in this movie
Starting point is 00:26:16 who have speaking roles it is who yeah good so the first one we meet is rachel and she's the good replicant she's not like the other replicants she's nice but she's also one we meet is Rachel and she's the good replicant she's not like the other replicants she's nice but she's also she's a bit of a she's a bit of femme fatale
Starting point is 00:26:29 replicant and she's a crier so it's like oh we like her but do we I love it when women cry
Starting point is 00:26:38 yeah that's a stereotype guys are known for they love seeing a woman cry and they were like cool that's what Hampton has to leave the movie theater and say, hey, you two turned on
Starting point is 00:26:47 and you need a cash refund. Excuse me, sir, sir, that movie just made me crazy horny. That chick was crying. I want to have a relationship with the person on the screen. So Rachel, she's a robot, but then she has the memories of the guy who
Starting point is 00:27:04 loses his eyeballs is Neitz. Right, Tyrell's niece. So they implant her with these memories. So she thinks she's human. So they administer these tests to figure out if someone's a replicant or not. Voitkampf. That's the name of the test. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Yeah. And it's basically just asking all these questions that we'll see if it'll elicit some sort of emotional response in the replicants because basically the movie sets up that the replicants are pretty much indistinguishable from humans except that their emotional intelligence isn't... They have autism. And they only live for four years. That plus you can just watch them keel over in the streets
Starting point is 00:27:42 because they're dying right back. Because they gave a speech that was too long. But you almost gotta give respect to the movie that it's not just a thing he scans people with. Like, oh, they're a robot. Go get them. It's like he has to give them this personality test. He has to sit people down and talk to them. They gotta do the Myers-Briggs.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Are you introverted or extroverted? I think that's pretty fucking funny. Introverted, you're a fucking replicant. You freak. I think they're making a point about, like, nuance of personality or something, you know? At one point, will we even give a fuck? You know, you could talk to a robot that, like, just replicates, you know, human empathy. Right. And then you're like, you're my new best friend.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Well, that'd be great. I love you. You're so there for me. And, like, you know. Is it the Turing test that it's like, is this robot? Yeah, yeah, right. That's what that is? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:28 So did this movie invent it? No. But even this test, there's one where he's like. Turing invented that because he had autism. Or he had Asperger's or something crazy. Oh, really? I think so, right? He's the guy that invented the.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Boy, I'm an idiot. They ask Rachel a question. They sort of ask her about her sexuality at one point. That was the first time I'm like, oh. And whether she's human or not, they're like, well, who do you fuck? We're just curious. Who do you fuck? Immediately.
Starting point is 00:29:02 What you doing with that ass? What do you say? It doesn't matter if the ass is sentient or not. Sentient ass. Gentlemen, we've invented it. Sentient ass. For years, the woman have played man. But imagine a sentient ass.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Something that has feelings that a man needs. And it's a giant ass. This is my favorite improv group that I go and see's a giant ass. This is my favorite improv group that I go and see. Right. Yeah, that scene is like... Is this testing whether I'm a replicant or a lesbian?
Starting point is 00:29:34 Yeah. That's exactly it. It's such a corny line. Yeah. It's such a, oh, am I a lesbian? It's such a, like, also a throwback to, like,
Starting point is 00:29:43 a noir line. Like, they used to always do that like don't you got the hearts for me yeah like you can have the feeling she should be like leaning in and like pushing her cleavage together like what are you suggesting right but it's obnoxious as well well the thing with that scene is that you discover that it took like he had to administer the test for like much longer and ask way many more questions than with the other replicants. So there's something about her that, like, makes her special.
Starting point is 00:30:08 And maybe that's why he loves her. She's not like the other replicants. That's what I'm saying. You guys can't respect a man's love for a sentient ass. Absolutely. 100% cannot respect a man's love, period. I mock it in the streets every day. It's just a goofier love.
Starting point is 00:30:24 It's goofy. it really is yeah you know how goofy men's love is it's like sit down i wrote a song and you have to like listen to it like it's that level of like creepy it's creepy it's 77 of a woman's love and if he shows you one shade of that of that 50 shades of gray i'm gonna need 23 more than what i'm being there's three women in this movie i'm almost blown away because i almost don't even think about the the replicants to me they're just like an obstacle well i think that that's intentionally done yeah i mean rachel's the only female character that we're supposed to feel anything for right because uh zora is the snake lady.
Starting point is 00:31:06 She's an exotic dancer of some sort, I think. She has one good line where... Yet she's a robot who could be a construction worker and just build buildings with her bare hands, but she's like, I don't know what to do. She's also a
Starting point is 00:31:22 robot who probably has insane brain capacity. She's still like you know what she could have been a woman in STEM she could have been a woman in STEM I think she was empowered
Starting point is 00:31:30 by Amber Rose yeah I mean she learned that somehow being a stripper is the most feminist thing you could do it's very empowering everyone's being empowered
Starting point is 00:31:39 he's like is that a real snake and she's like no I can't afford one wait a second I can't afford it what is it
Starting point is 00:31:44 what's that snake it looks like a real snake it's a replicate snake, no. I can't afford one. Wait a second. I can't afford it. What is it? What's that snake? It looks like a real snake. It's a replicant snake. One of my favorite things in Blade Runner is when Deckard finds that scale. Yeah. It's like the worst detective work. He's like, here it is, the clue. Right here, where it should be. He finds it creepily
Starting point is 00:32:02 fast. It took me forever to piece together, because then he goes and like he goes to the snake man and he's like who you're selling your snakes to and then I was like
Starting point is 00:32:10 what's happening? And then he talks to that other dude in the bar and he's like what's with that snake? And he's like pointing at his dick.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Show me that snake. It's funny. It's a comedy. No matter what you're Harrison Ford's talking he sounds very old. Yeah. He is great.
Starting point is 00:32:26 He's always got the... He's had a dad bod since he was 15 years old. Oh, yeah. Indiana Jones basically had dad bod. Oh, for sure. He's a crummy actor. He's a crummy actor. No, he's not.
Starting point is 00:32:36 He's perfect. He's crummy. I don't know. When was... He doesn't have any... When's he good? Like, when is he not himself, you know? Oh, well, that's a good point.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Sure. He doesn't have a lot of, like, versatility. Right. He doesn't have range, but you're like, oh, it's the guy. When is Steve Buscemi not himself? No, just kidding. He's got good abilities. If we're talking about Alfred Molina, he disappears into the role.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Sure. Alfred Molina of Raiders of the Lost Ark, Alfred Molina of The Da Vinci Code 2006. Alfred Molina. You try and throw him a whip in 2016, he won't accept it. No, he's like, I've done it. What's next? People give him robot tentacles.
Starting point is 00:33:13 He's like, did you see Spider-Man 2 2004? I'm the Rain Man of Alfred Molina facts. Yeah. A point I would like to make is that we see again and again in movies that there's often a scene where a man has to save a woman. A woman is in peril.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Aracel is literally standing in a plot. A very intense moment for everyone. We're not going to be able to release this episode because you've sung... Oh my God. Because you're
Starting point is 00:33:50 putting Siri Siri's here as a guest. You're singing so many copyrighted songs. No, but it's fine because I'm doing it my bad version so it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:34:00 And I'm doing it under like eight seconds. Are those the rules? Yeah, you knew the law. I know the law. I know the law. I know the law. So women are often, women be in peril in movies. Women be damsel, baby.
Starting point is 00:34:15 They need saving. And it's a very annoying trope that I hate. How unlike real life. I get saved at least once a day. So it's a very annoying trope that i hate we don't see it in this movie instead we see a woman saving a man or a a woman robot that's true again because there are no women humans uh but it's the scene where um leon the fourth replicant who we haven't mentioned yet he's like fighting with Deckard and about to kill him
Starting point is 00:34:45 by pushing his thumbs into his eyes. That's how you kill people if you're a robot. I liked that part. So he's about to eye smush him. Eye kiss. That's what they call it. Kissing someone's eyes. Push them in.
Starting point is 00:35:00 But then he gets shot in the head and reveal that it's rachel picked up his gun all right so rachel saves rachel saves uh deckard from getting dead i like that this movie subverts that very annoying trope but there's so much that it does like they're sure every female character in this movie either exists to be a foil to a man or to I feel like Rachel's whole reason for existing in the movie is to facilitate the growth of Harrison Ford's character.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Like that's why she's there. To change his attitude about my robots and maybe they're not so bad and like that's Well the thing is he doesn't even seem to hate replicants that much. He doesn't even know anything about them in the first scene when the dude is explaining to them. He's like yeah they only lived for four years. He's like are you bad about them in the first scene when the dude's explaining to them. He's like,
Starting point is 00:35:45 yeah, they only lived for four years. He's like, are you bad at your job? But he didn't. He's like, I'm probably one of them. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Don't think about it. Where's your blade, dog? Where's your blade? He takes out rollerblades. He's just like, I'm a robot. But I like, Pris was my favorite.
Starting point is 00:36:03 I mean, little Daryl Hannah Goff yeah she has probably the most agency or she's right she's active
Starting point is 00:36:09 she tricks the dude Sebastian into like oh man that guy though with his weird like hi he says I'm 25 and you're like
Starting point is 00:36:18 no you're not but he has like he has a disease where he is like aging is accelerating that dude is so awesome he's like I'm 25 but I look like shit. Hi, I'm a peanut farmer, but I also make robots.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I make friends. I would do that. If I was the guy who could do that and make those easy. If there's anyone in the movie that I could realistically see myself with, it was him. I don't like it when they're full adult size, but when they're tiny and they're like cartoon characters, that's pretty great. They're little baby clowns. Yeah, they look like baby clowns.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Because you can check out my baby clowns. All they have to do is get bonked on the head and fall down every now and then. It's not like grueling work. They're goofballs. I mean, you can see both ways of she has the most agency, but you could also be like, oh, they made a little cunning witch female character.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I like cunning witches. She's another of them, they tell. Witches of Eastwick? It's all cunning witches. I'd like to pay for two tickets because I love those cunning witches. Practical magic? It's all cunning witches. Mystic pizza?
Starting point is 00:37:19 Cunning witches. So those are your three. Pris, Zora, and Rachel. What kind of a character would you have liked to have seen put in this I mean
Starting point is 00:37:29 any human women why couldn't one of the other Blade Runners be a woman Deckard's mom right his girlfriend
Starting point is 00:37:37 should it but like how removed should it be from him like partner or like love interest or
Starting point is 00:37:44 I mean it didn't. You don't need to necessarily add someone new to the story that like wouldn't make sense for the story but just like have. He could have been his police chief who's like Deckard I need fucking results. It could have been Edward James Olmos. Put on your blades. Put on your fucking blades.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Where are your blades? She's just mad about things he forgot to bring to make her character super catchy. Where are your blades? Why aren't you things he forgot to bring to make her character super catchy where are your blades why aren't you running she's just nagging what's your problem
Starting point is 00:38:09 oh yeah we need a naggy woman in here oh there is the woman in the she like
Starting point is 00:38:16 looks at the snake scale he thinks it's like a fit and she's like oh no so there's another woman with a speaking role I forgot about
Starting point is 00:38:22 her but she's like secretly I love love you, Deckard. And also like Rachel, and forgive me if I missed a part when I was taking a shower and really not watching the movie at all. But it was on. But there's like Rachel, like Harrison Ford and Rachel, they both sort of have these identity issues. But Rachel, what's the resolution there where she's like, oh, I guess I have the memories of the eyeball guy's niece.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Yeah. And I'm sad about that. But then there's no, where does that arc land? They're going to go on the run. Right. They're on the lam now. Now they know they're robots and they're like, let's figure it out. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Where her character ended was like, oh, there was no, like she was truly, they were like, here's a shell of a woman. Force her to say whatever you want. Okay. Yeah. That scene. Let's talk about that. Let's talk about that scene.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Cause that was like, ooh. Ooh, good. So the scene where she's back at his apartment, she's playing piano. He goes in to kiss her. Oh, very Twilight You play piano? Y'all play piano? He's all swooning over her piano playing
Starting point is 00:39:32 He moves in to kiss her She pulls away Gets up Tries to leave He slams the door shut He's awesome Look how awesome he's being He's like shooting robots for you.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Oh, we got pretty cool devils advocating in the room right now. So he slams the door shut so that she can't leave. He violently pushes her against the wall and then like corners her, puts his arms up so she can't move. She's crying. He's like, kiss me. Say you want me to kiss you. Say kiss me crying. He's like, kiss me. Say you want me to kiss you. Say kiss me. And she's like, kiss me.
Starting point is 00:40:10 And he's like, say you want me. I want you. Say it again. Say it's huge. It is, I think, meant to be. I think it's meant to be hot, but it is so rapey. Excuse me. That movie just turned me on.
Starting point is 00:40:25 He just kissed that woman who loves him. She doesn't. That is pretty insane. And then the three female characters, speaking to the fact that there's no human women, all three female characters were invented by men. Right. I was like, oh, how hard is this movie thinking about itself?
Starting point is 00:40:41 Answer, I don't think very hard. But there was like a 10 minute span where I'm like maybe what ridley scott's trying to say is that men created these women and that's why the female characters are so horrible because it's just the man's perception of what a woman should be doing blah blah blah and then i like was like oh no it's just bad this is just how you're giving it too much credit right it's just bad badly written female characters great uh but But the escape and how, because I always try to like, I'm getting ready for this podcast, I'm like, how would an asshole
Starting point is 00:41:10 explain away the point I'm about to make? And I think it would be that's like, well, the women were created by men, and so men don't understand women, so they just made women that made sense to them. So women that wanted to get naked and fuck them. Right. So that was the...
Starting point is 00:41:25 That's a funny... That's a real devil's advocate to the nth degree there. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know that... I don't think they were thinking very hard about it. Yeah, I think... Well, my thing is, honestly, I just think, you know, movies really didn't think about this
Starting point is 00:41:38 until about ten years ago. Hampton Fancher was not thinking about it. No, I don't know. I mean, like, it was and it wasn't but like I'd say this yeah just hasn't been applied Philip K. Dick was certainly not thinking about yeah no
Starting point is 00:41:52 when was he writing that book it was probably like 1960 it had to have been the 60s yeah I can't remember exactly 68 he wrote so that's why it's badly made you're totally right those are glaring problems that it's like made. You're totally right. Those are glaring problems that it's like now you couldn't get away with it. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Well, I'm interested to see if in this sequel that's coming out, if there are more interesting or developed female characters. Because the love story that's set up between Harrison Ford's character and Rachel is like, why do they like each other? This happens all the time in movies where it's like, we're not sure why. They're near each other and they're both attractive.
Starting point is 00:42:31 So naturally they're gonna wanna fuck and be together forever. But like, why? Also, she'll do whatever he tells her to do. It's so, like that whole scene was like, oh, so that's why he likes her. Because he's like, hey, say this thing to me that makes me feel cute.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I'm feeling really sensitive about my hips make me feel cute he's a curvy man curve i got a dumb thick butt though uh one thing i do like about the movie is that you do see Deckard's ass get kicked by two women because Zora and Pris both beat the shit out of him. That's like the most progressive thing you could do with a woman. Just have her murder a man.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Doesn't that immediately make it ultra-feminist in a movie? This is how Caitlin and I spend our nights. Just hunting. That was cool. The Pris fight scene was really weird because she basically like gets him in a headlock with her vagina.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Love that. What a weird way to fight someone. Oh, have you guys never... Kegled someone's fucking head off? Pure decapitation, moral combat style. And then, oh, she's also... I love that they did that in GoldenEye also. She puts her fingers up his nose. That's a great way to hurt someone.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Your nose is so sensitive. And humiliate them at the same time. The only thing I learned about self-defense, I learned from Miss Congeniality 2000. What'd you learn? There's a part where Sandra Bullock says, you have to remember to sing. Solar plexus, instep, nose, groin.
Starting point is 00:44:09 And those are the places that you hit people. And then they stay away from you. Yeah. How is that a song? It's a... Solar plexus. And then Benjamin Bratt breaks out into song and it's a great movie.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Is that movie good? That movie is fucking tight. Is that movie better than Blade Runner runner oh 100 percent miscongeniality too maybe not as good as blade runner well speaking of other movies and other cop movies specifically i wanted to make the point that so many cop movies revolve around a male protagonist being the cop or like two men cop buddies. Maybe a white hip. There are some white men who are sensitive about their body. It's so rare that you see a female cop protagonist in a movie. I made a list of man cop movies.
Starting point is 00:44:58 What? Every. Most of the cop movies. Die Hard, The Departed, Seven, Beverly Hills Cop, Lethal Weapon, Serpico, Chinatown, Dirty Harry, LA Confidential, The French Connection, Bad Boys, 48 Hours, Point Break, The Untouchables, Training Day, Super Troopers, Robocop, Men in Black, Speed, Mad Max, Hot Fuzz, 21 Jump Street, Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang, many, many, many more. Cop Rock?
Starting point is 00:45:20 Cop Rock. Cop Rock. Cop Rock. Cop Rock. A few exceptions. Cop Rock. Fargo oh hey good one
Starting point is 00:45:27 Silence of the Lambs oh wow almost all good movies no that movie's transphobic yeah it is true yeah
Starting point is 00:45:33 another exception The Heat oh but that movie sucked yeah it was and then
Starting point is 00:45:40 sorry skip it watch Miss Congeniality instead great female cop movie oh you forget that's a cop movie she's FBI honestly Miss Congeniality instead. Great female cop movie. Oh, you forget that's a cop movie. She's FBI.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Honestly, Miss Congeniality is an amazing movie. Michael Caine shines in that movie. Yeah. He's great. Where's your Michael Caine impression? I was like, do I do a Michael Caine? You have it. It would seem obnoxious.
Starting point is 00:45:57 You have it. I don't know. I don't bloody know if I got a Michael Caine and shot off my right eye. I've heard better. Yeah, I know. It wasn't in me. I didn't bloody know if I got a Michael Caine inside of me right now. I've heard better. Yeah, I know. It wasn't in me. I didn't really want it.
Starting point is 00:46:09 But anyway, so most cop movies are male dominated. I wonder if that has anything to do with the cops mostly being men. It could be, but are cops mostly men? Because women don't see representation in media of women being cops. So they're like, oh, it would be weird for me to try to be a cop because I guess women can't be cops because I've seen all these movies where it's all men being cops systemic
Starting point is 00:46:30 I just finished season 3 of Fargo did it make you want to fight crime it made me want to move to the Midwest and become a cop and become troubled with the state of ways just as possible to acquire action that's the thing is like every And become troubled with the state of, is justice possible to require action?
Starting point is 00:46:47 That's the thing is like, every cop movie I see, I'm like, now I want to fight crime. Yeah. Like it does totally empower me. But like, when you saw Thargo,
Starting point is 00:46:56 did it make you go like, fuck yeah, I want to fucking bust a case. I've never. I want to find a body. I want to find murders. I don't think so. Although when I, I did see Harriet the Spy as a young kid, I really wanted to be a spy.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Now, being a spy is cool. And that should be women. Because it's all about seduction and intrigue. Because that's kind of happening with the new Jennifer Lawrence movie that's coming out. Which one? It's like a spy movie. She's a spy. It's only been teased kind of what it is.
Starting point is 00:47:28 And then immediately people are like, why are women always portrayed as spies? Is it because we're sneaky? And I was like, I don't know. That sounds not fair. On many levels. Dude, Harry the Spy is a dope movie. And Nancy Drew.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Oh, yeah. I wanted to be Nancy Drew real bad. Yeah. Not Emma Roberts Nancy Drew. Hot, big titty, 15-year-old illustrated Nancy Drew. Sentient ass Nancy Drew. My mom made me read those books. She was like, you've got to read Nancy Drew.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Oh, yeah? Well, those books are so, because Nancy has Ned, Ned Nickerson, her boyfriend, who's a hottie and stays out of the way, which is great. Speaking of fake names. Ned Nickerson is hot and stays out of the way. It's like, okay, that's what we're going to go for in the future. And then she has her two cousins, or no, her two friends who are cousins, one of whom is not the star of the book because she's five pounds overweight. They say that in every book. They say, Beth was about five pounds more than she needed to be.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Five. Always five. That is remarkably mean. Always five. Penis. And then there's George, who is a lesbian, but they say she's a bit of a tomboy. It's someone who's five pounds too heavy and a bit of a tomboy, and that's why they can't be the star of the book. But not Nancy. She's a perfect ten. She's a bit of a tomboy. It's someone who's five pounds too heavy and a bit of a tomboy
Starting point is 00:48:45 and that's why they can't be the start of it. she's a perfect 10. She's a fucking strawberry blonde. She's a child 10. She's got a beta cuck waiting for her.
Starting point is 00:48:52 How old is she supposed to be in the book? 15. That's old enough to start solving crimes. Yeah, no, I know.
Starting point is 00:48:59 She does it in a cute little skirt and she has a rowboat. It's a whole thing. Does anyone have anything else they want to say about Blade Runner and its portrayal of women rowboat. It's a whole thing. Does anyone have anything else they want to say about Blade Runner and its portrayal of women?
Starting point is 00:49:07 Boo. Bad. Boo. Bad. Let's talk about whether or not the movie passes the Bechdel test. No. You just ran it through
Starting point is 00:49:18 the Bechdel testimeter. No. This is our Voight-Kampff test. Yeah, yeah. Right. If you were to sit Ridley Scott down and ask him what kind of a Voight-Kampff test. Yeah, yeah. Right. If you were to sit Ridley Scott down and ask him kind of a Voight-Kampff on this, what would you ask him? That is a quick thing I wanted to bring up, is this is a Ridley Scott movie, and Ridley Scott is all over the board, like, truly A to Z in how he treats women in his movies, because he fucking directed Thelma and Louise,
Starting point is 00:49:43 he directed Alien, like, two movies we've done on this podcast that are like nature. I mean, Thelma and Louise fared very well. We gave it a five nipple rating across the board. We did. We did. I thought it was always a problem that it's like women are always portrayed
Starting point is 00:49:57 as like indestructible badasses also, you know? I mean, Thelma and Louise are indestructible. But they also die. I'm joking. I was more thinking about Ripley. To mean, Thelma and Louise are indestructible. But they also die. I was more thinking about Ripley. To me, oh, right. Because I love Alien and Aliens and stuff. Because he is Alien, Thelma and Louise, G.I. Jane. Whoa, G.I. Jane?
Starting point is 00:50:16 G.I. Jane. I've never actually seen that. It passes the back of my head. Dumb as shit. It's dumb. But it is supposed to be like, oh, it's a, you know, whatever. It's inherently dumb because they call her G.I. Jane and she's joining the Navy SEALs, which is not G.I.
Starting point is 00:50:30 General Infantry. But then he's also directed a slew of movies, Blade Runner, Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, Matchstick Man. So he's all over the board in terms of how he treats women's movies. Yeah. Well, I would argue that the writer of a movie is gonna have more say in how a woman is portrayed than the director
Starting point is 00:50:50 I mean the director can make different choices but it's ultimately the way a woman is portrayed at least in terms of like how active of a role she plays in the story and things like that is gonna be up to the writer so I mean you know the director might make decisions on like how you frame it
Starting point is 00:51:05 and like how like how little clothing she has on and like do we do like lingering shots of like male gaze kind of stuff but i think it's so weird that you know three years previous to this he makes alien and then he's like but we've got to have a 20 year old daryl hannah flailing with her tits out for a good 30 seconds before we allow the protagonist to shoot her in the baby maker. It doesn't feel like shoot her right in the gut. It's like a womb shot.
Starting point is 00:51:35 It's like seriously, it's sexual. I'm telling you, that's probably thought about. I'm telling you. Are you telling me? Hampton, you tell me. This is why I love Blade Runner. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. Are you telling me? Hampton, you tell me. This is why I love Blader.
Starting point is 00:51:46 I explain it to people. I know, I'm telling you, man. Didn't you feel weird when you saw that? So we can really blame Hampton Fancher.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Yeah, I blame Hampton. Always blame Hampton. I lost the best guess for this. Actually, you're in the hot seat. But it's just weird
Starting point is 00:52:03 to think about like Ridley Scott's, what's that word with too many vowels? Ouvre. Oh, yeah. It's all over the place. Ouvre. Yeah, good point.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Yeah. Oh, that's all. That was mine. I don't know. I think he's, like, one of those super, like, visual directors. As I've been thinking a bit about, like, directors recently, where I'm like, well, some seem, like, super hands-on with actors, or, like, you know, that's super hands-on with actors or like,
Starting point is 00:52:25 you know, that's where they start. And cause that's their background. He just seems like art school visual guys. So I always think he's, it's almost like he's not trying to empower Ripley or, or, or do,
Starting point is 00:52:35 you know, something with Thelma and Louise. He's just like, this is a beautiful story. Here's how it is shot. And, uh, I am removed back.
Starting point is 00:52:42 I want you to see this, you know, this painting sort of thing. And he's not thinking about the relationship so much. I guess that would enable such a wide kinds of different stories that he tells. Yeah, because it's like if he had some sort of like specific agenda the way some directors do,
Starting point is 00:52:56 I feel like you wouldn't see that many different. Right. Yeah. Because he's an auteur, but not necessarily like, oh, here I am on the women's movement making a bunch of great... My name is Darren Aronofsky. My girlfriend's 27.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Wait, how old's he? He's 49. Okay. That's not great. That's too much. That's not great. That's too much. He wears dumb hats.
Starting point is 00:53:20 And I can beat him in a fight. Make him watch Requiem for a Dream. That's that. Okay, so back to the Bechdel test. Doesn't pass. It doesn't pass. It doesn't pass. There are no scenes in the movie
Starting point is 00:53:37 where there are even two women in the same scene who have speaking roles. Like Zora and Pris are never in the same scene, which is weird have speaking roles like zora and priss are never in the same scene which is weird because like they all those four knew each other leon roy right and zora and they regularly come into contact with the male characters right but the two women don't ever talk to each other and then rachel never talks to either of them i wonder if in any of the seven fucking versions of this movie two women talk to each other. Guarantee they don't. That's actually Deckard's narration.
Starting point is 00:54:08 He's like, I imagine them having conversations. They're probably boring and we won't show them. Probably talking about their stare current. They could have had a conversation between the two robots just about being the robot experience. Kind of like the whole point of the movie, basically.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Why can't they have a discussion about like their loss of soul or, you know, this illusion of personality sort of thing? I mean, that would have been interesting. Like, oh no, I don't want to die in four years. Do they get their period, do you think? You got to program in a period.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Why would you make a robot woman without... How else are you going to control them? Without... why would you make a robot woman without control them without right yeah that's fine y'all gotta control their blood but yeah there are a bunch of different versions
Starting point is 00:54:54 of this movie I watched the final cut one most recently I don't know how it's different from any of the other ones I watched the easiest one
Starting point is 00:55:00 to steal over the world wide web I don't know whatever the first one was but there's also the director's cut, the U.S. theatrical cut, the international cut,
Starting point is 00:55:08 and something called the work print. They're all the same except for the one with narration. Okay. I would like to see the narration.
Starting point is 00:55:14 That's just about making money. They just release it every now and then. We're like, the editor's final. We cut out one scene and now it's a new movie. This is how Joey would like to see it done it's literally the same movie
Starting point is 00:55:27 so yeah it doesn't pass the Bechdel test no surprise there and we send it to the the thing is it also sucks as a movie well with that let's rate it but we'll rate it on our nipple scale based on it's portrayal of women so not how much you like the movie we'll rate it on our nipple scale based on its portrayal of women.
Starting point is 00:55:45 So not how much you like the movie. We're rating it on how it portrays women. And it's a scale of zero to five nipples. And then you can attribute those nipples to anyone you want or describe them or anything like that. I give them two inverted nipples. Nice. Because that's the definition of it's a woman reverse like they didn't understand it and uh that's what happened with this movie so that's why i go for that artistic uh rating i'm on my
Starting point is 00:56:13 silence for that very dope rating um okay yeah sorry i forgot to be silent for the moment of silence. I would give it, yeah, like a one and a half or two nipples. I'm going to go with a one and a half. The women you do see on screen, none of them are human. Most of them are bad. And it's fine to have a female villain, but they're all so poorly developed that we don't really know anything about what their feelings are, what their perspective is, or anything like that. We see one's nipples for pretty much no reason.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Excuse me, I got horny during that movie. And then cut from nipples back to snake. Nipples back to snake. It's like, wait, what is he implying here? Oh, I get it, snake. Someone allowed him in here. Oh, I get it. He's got a garbage bag full of popcorn.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Oh, I get it. Oh, suck my dick. Yeah, the love story between Decker and Rachelachel like makes no sense we're not sure why they like each other uh and yeah generally just the the female characters exist to what you were saying either either like be a foil to the men to specifically decker or be a random love interest that doesn't make any sense right so yeah one and and a half nipples. The nipples belong to the owl in the movie, and I know that... How many nipples do birds have, Caitlin?
Starting point is 00:57:51 You know how many nipples everyone has. Generally, birds don't have any nipples. However, I think we can all agree... They just vomit on each other. They're like weird bukkake birds. Bukkake birdies. Bukkake birdies. Bukkake birdies. I think we can all agree that owls are cats.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Especially because they've always graduated. So you're like, dude's smart. He's gotten education. No, owls are sky cats. They're cats with wings. And cats do have eight nipples. This has been Cat Facts with Caitlin. So we see the owl,
Starting point is 00:58:26 the replicant owl, and so the nipples belong to that owl. I like it. I give this movie one nipple. It sucks. I don't like it. If you've got a problem with it, hey, bring your hardcover
Starting point is 00:58:44 Philip K. Dick anthology and beat me to death over the head. I don't care it. If you've got a problem with it, hey, bring your hardcover Philip K. Dick anthology and beat me to death over the head. I don't care. This movie blows. There's all the characters were like, just there's nothing there. This movie made me have to take a shower midway through. That's how bad it was.
Starting point is 00:58:59 I thought this movie had Liam Neeson in it. It was so bad. I clearly watched it with 100% of my patience in the morning I couldn't do it I could not do it I could not
Starting point is 00:59:10 like this movie oh god I don't I didn't like I'll throw another nipple to the owl sure okay
Starting point is 00:59:20 that was great that was kind of full set yeah and it's um well thank you so much Hampton for being here yeah Hampton okay great now it's gonna pull set yeah and it's um uh well thank you so
Starting point is 00:59:26 much Hampton for being here yeah Hampton fan yeah
Starting point is 00:59:30 Hampton Yant stand-up comedian right right bald right
Starting point is 00:59:33 contour where can people follow you on Twitter Twitter would be my my favorite
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