The Bechdel Cast - Grease 2 with Solomon Georgio
Episode Date: September 7, 2017Caitlin and Jamie invite Cool Rider Solomon Georgio to talk about Grease 2, but we're not even sure it's him because he never took off his helmet.(This episode contains spoilers)Follow @solomongeorgio... on Twitter! While you're there, you should also follow @BechdelCast, @caitlindurante and @hamburgerphone  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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On the Bechdelcast, the questions asked if movies have women in them. Are all their discussions just
boyfriends and husbands or do they have individualism? The patriarchy's effing vast.
Start changing it with the Bechdel cast.
Hi, welcome to the Bechdel cast.
You're listening to the Bechdel cast.
This is our podcast about movies and women in them.
My name's Jamie.
My name's Caitlin.
And this is our podcast called the Bechdel cast, which is our podcast.
What is this, the Groundhog Day episode?
But what's it about?
Women and the movies that they're in.
Specifically, how those movies portray the female characters.
Oh, yeah.
And how it's often not very good.
Almost always bad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Breaking news quick at the top of the episode, we have heard from Alfred Molina.
Yes.
As of today, I, you can attest, called you weeping in my garage uh which is where i fled to
i just ran to my garage and called you and uh alfred molina must and and not to call him out
but he must search his own name regularly on twitter.com because you did not mention him you
did not add him he was not add him he was not
tagged right he was not tagged in any way and he certainly does not follow me on twitter.com
so he must have found it i believe what i said was that i i got so distracted by thinking about
how chris noth is the poor man's alfred melina that i walked into traffic which is true i did
that this morning because i've been watching the good wife and i hate it but i keep watching it but alfred melina
found that quoted it was extremely humble wanted to give chris not his due which like why bother
but whatever uh and and now he alleges that he will come on this podcast so after what a full year this is the closest we've
gotten and i'm not gonna let it go right we will stop at nothing to get alfred melina on this
podcast we know he's nearby we'll do it we basically made out we're recording this on
august 17th the episode won't come out for a couple weeks after this. By the time it comes out, he might have already...
He probably would have divorced his wife.
We'll be fully...
I realize recently it's my dream to have stepchildren
who are older than me and hate me.
And I think that marrying Alfred Molina
is going to be an amazing shortcut to achieving that.
For sure.
Yeah.
So anyways, that's the breaking news we'll keep you
posted as of august 17th i'm still flying high and and crying about it indeed there you go bringing
it back to the cast uh hey we should mention what the what this even what is bechdel well it's a
test it requires that two women have to talk to each other in a movie. They have to have names. And their conversation has to be about something that's not a man.
Da-da-da.
So we will check in with this movie that we're talking about later on to see if it passes the Bechdel test.
But before we do that, we should introduce our terrific guest.
Okay.
He is a hilarious comedian.
He has a half hour coming out on Comedy Central and his first album coming out in October.
Solomon Giorgio!
Hi!
Thanks for being here.
Thanks for coming.
Thanks for being okay with me being late.
That's fine.
No problem.
One of us is late almost every episode.
Oh, okay.
Sorry.
I've been so late that I've missed the episode.
It's all good.
So we're here to talk about Grease 2.
So why did you pick this movie?
What's your relationship to it?
When did you first see it?
It is one of those movies that I think is a sequel that's better than the original.
I think I watched it in like 1985 on like TBS or TNT.
Because it came out in what 82 yeah yeah so i was like a
young kid and like i think i watched grease before it and then i was just like i get it
but then i saw the second i was like this this is what good movies are
i probably watched it 20 plus times it's one of those ones that's always, always, always on TV. Just like the really bad TNT edit of Kill Bill that's always on TV that I love.
I'm trying to think of other movies that are always on basic cable for some reason.
I feel like Back to the Future is always on.
Not as much as you think.
The Fugitive.
Yeah.
I love that movie.
It's one of the few movies where wherever it starts, I will sit down and watch it.
Yeah. I'm that movie. It's one of the few movies where wherever it starts, I will sit down and watch it.
Yeah.
I'm perfectly fine.
It's supposed to be like cheap to license because there's like five movies that are always on television no matter what.
And Heat is another one, which is very weird because it's a very long movie.
Yeah, it's forever long.
That's crazy.
Jamie, when did you first see Grease 2?
Today.
Same.
Yeah.
In fact, I thought I had seen the first one all the way through apparently i have not because i watched it yesterday and i do not remember the second
half of it at all so i had not seen that entire first one until yesterday and i gotta be honest
i don't really like it uh i think yeah i like it up until a certain point, right up to Stalker Channing's abortion song.
And then after that, I'm like, I'm done.
It's hard to stay on board after that.
The first Grease, I've seen it a bunch of times and I did it for Summer Stock Theater and all this.
Man, it's an exhausting show with a deeply questionable message. I do think that the message is the same in Grease 2,
but it's flipped in a way that I like way better.
But it also wasn't like when Sandy churned at the end.
That was out of nowhere.
Right, right.
There was no process.
Literally no need for that to happen at all.
He was already on board.
Yeah, and she's like,
oh, I wear leather jackets and smoke cigarettes now.
And he's like, even better.
The transformation takes place
for most, I mean,
like a good hour. There's a lot of
motorcycle learning
montages. Oh, in Grease 2? Yeah.
It was a really,
I really liked it. I was riveted.
I had a fun time watching it. Yeah, I for sure
like it a great deal more than the original, the first one.
Well, it made the pink ladies the star, which I think is the better.
And also, if you're talking about leading men, Max Caulfield versus John Travolta,
I'm fucking going Caulfield.
Yes.
Every time.
100%.
Yeah, this felt like Grease 2 just felt like a really good rewrite
to the first Grease.
Yeah.
Like it's just
a better version
of the first one.
Yeah, it felt like
a later draft
that was like,
what if we just make
this whole thing better?
And yeah.
But I do love though
that basically this movie
is about a woman
not liking
a very handsome
British man
because he doesn't
wear a leather jacket.
He's a nerd. He's a nerd. He's such a nerd because he doesn't wear leather jackets. He's a nerd.
He's such a nerd
because he's British.
But she also doesn't like
the toughest boy in school.
She's also done with him.
I guess she just needed a combination.
She needed a sensitive guy who wears
leather jackets. That's all she wanted.
And she was not lying
because the second one came around
she got on his motorcycle
and was like, I don't care what your face is.
I was really hoping for a more
I was really hoping for a more dramatic
Phantom of the Opera style room.
In the weird
scene at the end with the
Grecian pool. I was like, oh yeah, like high
school. Yeah, that happens.
The big float. Where he comes in, I was like, oh yeah, like high school. Yeah, that's happening. The big float.
Where he comes in,
I was like,
oh my God,
I wanted her to,
that's maybe my only grip
of this movie.
I wanted her to take off
his helmet,
or his,
not even his helmet.
His weird goggles.
His Phantom of the Opera mask
that he's wearing
for the whole movie.
But also,
how great would it be
to just have sex
with somebody
wearing a helmet
and never see it?
I've been married to the same man
who's been wearing a scuba helmet
for 12 years.
And we're very happy.
I have no idea who he is.
I've been married to V from V for Vendetta.
Hasn't said a single word to me
and I'm having a great time.
All of these people we just described
are better at hiding their face
than the Phantom of the Opera.
You let it out very quickly.
Yeah.
And it's like, oh, it's Gerard Butler with some sort of allergic reaction happening on one half of his face.
Well, I think that's a great transition to the recap of Grease 2.
Oh, for sure.
So the story is about Stephanie.
She's sort of the lead of the Pink Ladies, this kind of clique at Lydell High School.
Stephanie had been dating the leader of the T-Birds.
Is that what they're called?
The T-Birds.
His name is Johnny.
And she's like, you know what?
I'm over it.
We're over.
I'm single now.
Yeah, you're a perv.
I'm done.
Yeah.
Then who shows up but Michael Carrington,
a British man whose cousins with Sandy,
Olivia Newton-John's character from the first one.
Very fun throwaway detail.
Right.
I also like that he spends the whole movie
speaking in a British accent,
but Sandy was Australian.
I mean, I guess there can be intercontinental cousins.
Or was she from New Zealand?
I can't remember now.
Australia, I'm pretty sure.
She was? Okay. Yeah. In any New Zealand? I can't remember now. Australia, I'm pretty sure. She was?
Okay.
Yeah.
In any case, it's confusing, their relationship.
But he shows up, and he's handsome to boot.
And he takes an interest in Stephanie, but she's like,
you don't wear enough leather jackets.
You don't have enough motorcycles.
So hard pass.
So he's like, well, I'm going to have to win her over somehow. So, he starts saving up money. He's writing essays for the other T-Bird guys. Buys a motorcycle, gets a leather jacket, gets some goggles, turns into this mystery man. Then, Stephanie is like, ooh, leather jacket, goggles, sign me up. So, she just like hops on the back of his motorcycle
they have a kiss a little smooch and then at one point in the movie there's these like other
leather jacket wearing guys from i think another school and they show up a little
yeah they're not the t-birds they're just another group that seems similar to the T-Birds. They look and behave identically.
They did the same thing in the first movie.
Right.
The one guy gets called Craterface a lot.
So they show up, and then the T-Birds start getting wise to Michael,
whose identity still remains unknown.
And they're like, who's this other, who's this mystery guy?
None of us like him.
So they all chase him, and he jumps over this ravine, I guess.
And everyone thinks he dies.
So then Stephanie's sad and she's like, well, no.
And then everyone's gearing up for this talent show.
And then he shows up and he's like, I'm not dead.
And then they are in love.
The end.
The talent show is, okay okay help me out here because there are the three spiffy young
men who are good at singing who see several times and at the end the t-birds are like
we're gonna take their jackets which is where they hid their talent because then the t-birds
go on stage and suddenly they can sing and they're really good i don't know why they kidnapped the
sweet little spiffy boys.
It's like Jesus in the Technicolor Dreamcoat.
Is that what that is about?
Joseph.
Joseph.
Very, very close.
Jane is.
It's all the same to me.
It's exactly the same.
Biblical names bleed together.
No, I'm going to stand by Jesus in the Technicolor Dreamcoat.
Jesus was not stylish
from what i've seen judas however if we were to judge from his first number in jc superstar
extremely stylish i've been trying to figure out how to get that outfit for myself for years
it's like a two-piece orange tie-dye it's great you. You're going to have to make it. Yeah, I think, yeah. That's the rule. That's what Judas had to do.
That's what Judas had to do.
It's so good.
Anyways, what are we talking about?
The Spiffy Boys.
But I think the most important part of this movie
that we glossed over was the return of Didi Khan
as Frenchie.
Oh, right.
Which I think is so weird.
So does she re-enroll back in school to learn chemistry so she can develop skin care products?
That's not how high school works.
You don't go back for one class.
The best, like I never, Frenchie's life is my favorite life because it doesn't make any sense.
The fact that her character just leaves school and becomes a beauty school dropout has nothing to do with the first movie.
Yeah.
It's,
I like the fact that
Frenchie just shows up
and you're like,
here's her side story
and you need to know it
and it will not make any sense
to anyone.
Well,
how much time has passed
between the two movies?
I know it's like four years
between the movies were released,
but like narratively.
Two years.
Okay,
only two years.
Two years.
But she was a senior,
so she spent two years.
But she didn't graduate.
Okay.
So I think she just came back
for her senior year
to graduate.
Okay.
And I think she's just
going to go on
to another school.
I have no idea exactly
how the world of cosmetics work
but I'm pretty sure
You don't need a campus.
There is
yeah
every scene
D.D. Conn is in
is so
because
everyone in this movie is 30, but she looks 30.
And so, and then there's that scene where she's like working at her side job.
And it's like, I, it's so unclear.
And then she says several, she's like, Stephanie's one of my best friends.
But they almost never talk.
You've never seen them hang out.
Like, are you lying?
It's just like a pink ladies thing. But she sort of almost plays like an oracle kind of phase,
but not giving any solid advice.
Just like, this is what's happening.
She's like, oh, you're not a T-bird, so you can't even look at Stephanie.
She really just gives exposition from the previous movie.
Right.
Like, she doesn't push the plot forward.
Like, does she? she i mean she's
not just like well this is how the pink ladies and the t-birds work and if you don't know that
then and then she just like you know disappears but she also looks like she it's not also that's
not how it worked when she went to school there like she saw that like a shift in that power
dynamic and then she's all of a sudden she's I'm just going to reinforce it for this young boy. Right.
It used to be this way.
I changed a little bit but it's going to stay
this way again.
I'm going to go
to Shining Time Station.
Oh, you know,
she's living in the past.
What else do you expect?
She is.
She's back in high school.
She's the person
coming back to the frat house.
It's just like,
oh.
I want to see her
like 30 years later a la Strangers with Candy going back to high school as like. It's just like, I want to see her like 30 years later
a la Strangers with Candy
going back to high school
as like a 47 year old.
I want to see that sequel.
Grease 3, baby.
She's living in some sort
of very strange feedback loop.
I'm here to get
my AP English course
because I'm going
to become a poet.
She's going to high school
but she's only taking a chemistry class. It just doesn't get it. And then she's going to high school but she's only taking a chemistry class it just doesn't
and then she's in that's like the one scene she is in with with stephanie is when all the pink
ladies that are always together come in and they see frenchie but they still kind of make fun of
her a little bit like it's confusing they're kind of mean to each other all the pink ladies yes yeah
that's kind of their one gets slut shamed by another one and uh didn't care much for that she's like you'd fool around
with anyone and uh they're also mean to those twin cheerleader girls i don't know they're mean girls
yeah let's keep reinforcing the stereotype yeah, so who do we have female character-wise? We've got Stephanie.
That's Michelle Pfeiffer.
And then her other pink ladies, I think, are Paulette.
There's Rhonda.
I think one more whose name I didn't ever catch.
Oh, right.
Sharon's the one who's backed into the bunker, right?
Yes.
Oh, gets, like, manipulated into sex.
Because he's going to war.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm glad that she doesn't, or, like manipulated into sex. Because he's going to war. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm glad that she doesn't or like nothing happens and they don't go through with it.
Because otherwise that would have been horrific.
Yeah.
That scene didn't age very well, did it?
No.
And also like a lot of scenes in this movie have no, like if you take that scene out,
the movie's unchanged.
It's a musical number that's what it both both greases are like that you can take an entire thing out and you're like this has nothing oh this is the same well yeah because especially
in the first grease you could go from the first moment to the last moment and it's pretty much
the whole story is like she's not like the other girls just kidding she is that would be sober yeah okay so the other there's dolores which is i think
paulette's younger sister she's the one who's like i ride a skateboard i'm not old enough to drive
and then we've got frenchie we've got a few teachers and school administrators like miss
mason everyone makes fun of her hair slash compliments it.
Mr. Spears.
What's wrong with him?
At the end he walks into a
pool.
I do love the, like both movies
have the same situation, just this airhead
school administrator that doesn't know
how to function.
Miss McGee and Blanche?
Yes.
They're this little duo of clueless.
However, I do love, it is an 80s trope that I wish would return,
is Paulette's younger sister, the tough little girl,
that's there for no other reason but to just show up and be like,
I'm fucking tough, and then just disappear.
And then she pops up again at the end. You're like, oh, yeah.
Oh, right.
You were a person in this movie.
She's like, we have to break up.
Well, the first time you meet her, she's talking to Michael.
And he's like, can I walk you home?
She's like, I don't need a babysitter.
And he's like, well, what if it's a date?
And meanwhile, she's 13.
And you're like, oh.
That is gross.
But I do.
It's a weird thing.
But that trope, I think,
it comes back every once in a while, and I love it so much.
I think it should always come back.
Because the last time we saw it was Kick-Ass.
Ooh, yeah.
And the only time that trope ever got their own movie, I believe, was Curly Sue.
Oh, I've never seen that.
Oh, I haven't seen that either. Just, yeah, the whole tough little girl who has to deal with a shitty world.
Yeah.
And she's had enough.
Yeah, she's our little punky
in this one.
I like Dolores.
And if you don't like her,
she's in it for five minutes
to tell.
She's there to just
add some spice
and then get out.
Exactly.
So the first point
I wanted to make,
and we already kind of
touched on this,
one of the reasons
I didn't like the first Grease
very much
and why I like this one
a lot better
is that the first one,
the female lead,
Sandy, was very passive.
Things were just sort of happening to her.
She didn't really have any agency.
She spent most of the movie
just pining over Danny Zuko
and then being like,
well, he doesn't want to be with me
or he's with another girl
and I'm sad
and I'm not going to do anything about it.
And then in the end,
she basically changes everything about herself
for no reason.
And it works. And it works.
She got him even though she would have had him anyway.
Yeah, decides before.
I love her man.
Now she's doing what I want.
Now she's hot. And I can
control her.
And then they fly away.
So that is
stupid.
But then you see a shift with Grease 2 where Stephanie becomes the protagonist.
She's got agency.
We know what she wants.
She very explicitly says it in a whole song and dance number.
It's so good.
The best song of all the Grease movies.
Cool Rider is so good. It's so good. The best song of all the Grease movies. Cool Rider is
so good. It is so good.
It's funny how that song sort of
ends. There's a lot of songs in this movie that
end with, like, it's usually one person
singing it, and they'll just walk
away, and the song will fade
out as they're walking away by themselves
talking about what they want. You're just like, this is
great. Like, Cool Rider fades out when
Michelle Pfeiffer
just walks out of school.
That's what I want.
I'm talking to myself.
We're to believe
she keeps singing.
We just can't hear her anymore.
It's great.
So there's that moment
where we're like,
okay, we know
at least what she wants.
You know, as the audience,
we have an understanding
of what she's all about.
And then there's another moment
in the bowling alley,
I think, where...
The bowling song.
The bowling song. And then Johnny's all moment in the bowling alley, I think, where... The bowling song. The bowling song.
And then Johnny's all like, I want my trophy, calling women literal trophies.
Judy Garland's daughter's having none of that.
Exactly.
Eventually.
Oh, wait, is that who that is?
Laura Luft, yeah.
Oh, Laura Luft.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't know.
Wait, she plays, is it Paulette?
She plays Paulette.
Oh, I didn't know. Wait, she plays, is it Paulette? She plays Paulette. Oh, I didn't know that.
And if you rewatch it with that, her inflection, she's just totally doing mommy.
Lauren Love's super talented.
Nice.
Yeah, she gets called a trophy, but she's like the second place,
or she's like, you're the runner-up or the whatever, best average.
And he's like, what about first place, best score?
And Stephanie's all like, I'm not a trophy.
But she never argues.
She sort of is accepting.
She's like, yeah, I'm the hottest.
I just don't want to date you.
Yeah, she's like, I ain't no one's trophy.
I kiss who I want, when I want.
I'll kiss the next guy who comes into this shit.
Who happens to be hot british michael but the problem so she
has more agency than the female lead in the first movie great however the problem for me is that
everything is still like that song that conversation the whole story is still framed
around like which guy she's gonna end up with with. So it's like, you know, still not the feminist masterpiece that we're hoping for.
It's very true.
However, it is based on her decision.
Right.
Which is good.
Yes.
Because she's still got Johnny being like, I want you, I want you.
And she's just like, no, I already told you we're through.
And he keeps trying.
And she's like, no, I'm going be with who I want and it's gonna be this
mystery Phantom of the Opera
motorcycle guy. Love the Phantom
of the Opera.
It is such a good reference.
It never gets old.
Except when
he takes off his mask.
He's extremely hot underneath and hotter
than everyone else in the movie.
I'm gonna start wearing Phantom of the Opera masks on dates and stuff.
Because then when you take it off, guys are like, wow!
No matter what's there, they'll be like, cool!
Better than the mask!
Yeah, you're hotter than that mask you were just wearing.
Johnny is weird
because I watched the first one as well
and Johnny is like a less
slightly less desirable
Danny Zuco character.
So I feel like they're almost commenting on that character
and what a piece of shit he is.
He is, though.
Because he's like basically the same character,
but this time Stephanie's like,
no, you're dumb.
And like points out everything that is wrong
with basically Danny Zuko.
Yeah, and that is exactly what should be done.
Danny Zuko is a piece of shit.
He's a crummy dude.
With both of those characters, Danny Zuko and Johnny,
they're just like dripping with toxic masculinity.
And I feel like this movie does a little bit better job
than the first one of being like,
hey, maybe this isn't the best quality to have as a man.
Well, this movie like, yeah, like frames it
and kind of all the T-Birds is like,
that's not attractive.
And it's not something that will get you a girlfriend.
Except does Johnny end up with Paulette?
Does she end up accepting?
I think so.
Oh, bummer.
Well.
I watched it one and a half times, so I forget what happened.
But I do think they end up together.
And then I think a couple of the other pink ladies end up with the other.
But they're, you know, like secondary characters who are not very invested in.
And there is a weird plot contrivance code that keeps coming up of like pink ladies can only date T-Birds.
And I feel like that's only brought up when there's virtually no other reason for Stephanie to not at least give Michael a chance.
She's like, no, I can't or I'll be assassinated or like whatever the weird rules are. It's the pirate's
code. Also, what a dumb rule.
Yeah. How did that ever come
about? It's like, alright, you guys are the pink
ladies with the t-buts. We'll make a rule. We only date
each other. Well, what about if future people don't
want to date each other? Well, fuck them.
Too bad. Figure it out.
They can sing a song about it
because I don't give a shit. Well, it's like
the pirate's code in Pirates of the Caribbean
and toward the end they realize
it's more like actual guidelines anyway.
You can do whatever you want.
Well, it's like they almost call out
the fact that that's so fucking,
like, because there's one scene
where the pink ladies are like,
you can only date a T-Bird
till graduation anyways.
And it's like two months before graduation.
It's like, why would you, what?
Why keep enforcing this?
Also, the way that time passes in this movie is confusing because it's the first day of school and It's like, why would you? What? Why keep enforcing this? Also, the way that time passes
in this movie is confusing.
Because it's the first day of school
and they're like,
time to start getting ready
for the talent show in June.
Yeah.
September 1st.
Right.
It's an important talent show.
Right.
I've said that before.
They needed all those times.
I walked into high school
and was like,
it's time to get ready
for the talent show.
Also, imagine how long it took
to make those amazing costumes
and grow them all season. With all the like some adrian shit it was beautiful like my favorite
one was like the one who's wearing a baseball glove on her head like that oh i didn't even
catch that detail you need to watch that whole scene in slow motion the talent show is it's yeah
it's a ridiculous one like it's the same scene as the dance uh number in the first show is it's yeah it's a ridiculous one like it's the same scene as the
dance uh number in the first one where it's like no one no one does this do they like is this a
real school i want to go to this school now because i want to see everything that every
costume in girl of all seasons is the most incredible costume i've ever seen including
the there's another one where michelle pfeiffer comes out she has the most boring costume and then whatever derails the talent show but she's like wearing a white dress
because of course and then the girl behind her is wearing a dress that's shaped like a cake and has
fake legs popping out it's unbelievable i missed this whole thing oh it's so i'll send you
screenshots you gotta re-watch the talent show. Yeah, I guess so. Speaking of costumes, though,
did you catch the part toward the beginning
where Stephanie is wearing, like, short pants,
and then I think it's, like, Miss McGee is, like, pants,
and then she's like, oh, crap,
and then she puts on a skirt?
Is that because, I guess,
pants were against the dress code,
or, like, women weren't allowed to wear pants?
Yeah.
Back then? Yeah.
Okay, I just wanted to confirm.
Pants were, I think the rule,
probably if it's back then,
the rule was wear a skirt
and your skirt can't be shorter
than where your fingers meet.
Yeah.
Or even longer, I would think.
Probably longer then, yeah.
Yeah.
Because this is still,
the way they remind you
what era this movie takes place in
is very clumsy in a way I thought was funny.
Where they would just be like, as John F. Kennedy would say, who is still alive.
Before the luau, the principal spews out this JFK quote and is like, and now for the luau.
But no, wearing pants at school was a big no-no. Right.
And why did she wear them to school in the first place?
Fuck them. She should wear pants wherever she wants to.
I agree.
She's a pink lady. You don't change the rules
by not breaking them.
Ask for forgiveness, not permission.
The rule of Stephanie.
The Stephanie Code.
Data, masked
British guy who I think also does a fake American accent
when he's doing his thing.
I feel like.
Oh, yeah, I guess he does.
Because otherwise, like,
that would be a dead giveaway for who he is.
So he's doing like a fake American thing.
She full on makes out with him for like hours
without being like,
do you want to take off those goggles?
By the way, who are you?
No, but I get like
I'm on board with this. There's a version of my
like if I had the opportunity
to make out with a goggled man when I was
16, 100%
of course. Really? I'd do it now.
I wouldn't. I'd do it
I'll go outside. I'd get on the
first motorcycle that pulls up. Like if I
start singing Cool Rider and a great
human being in a helmet shows up and I'm just like you know what this wasn't meant to be yours oh god and
then oh uh can we talk about the the dream sequence sure i love the dream sequence it's
i don't remember the dream sequence oh it's uh when stephanie still thinks that michael's dead
or cool riders dead and then she has that whole scene when she ruins
the talent show which like she ruins the talent show by being in the chorus and not knowing the
words but anyways she starts singing her own song and then it cuts to this dream sequence of her
running towards cool rider she's wearing a grecian dress and then he he's not a good singer but he's like babe
what if i oh michael yeah alive she's like i wish you were and then they have a very intense uh weird
exchange she's like just when i thought i found you i lost you and he's like i know but it doesn't
matter now because we can always be together.
She's like, okay.
And then she wins the talent show.
It's great.
I think I must have like drifted off during the talent show because I don't remember. It's logistically one of the most, it's a fever dream of listening.
So many things happen, but none of it matters.
I do remember Johnny like going out onto the stage
or being pushed on stage and ruining someone else's song.
I don't know.
That's when they steal the Spiffy Boys jackets
and all their singing talents.
It's very weird.
There's no allowance of resetting a song.
They're not like, you want to start?
No, no, we're going to just go ahead and say this is ruined.
You can't do it again.
The show must go on.
But Johnny also wins.
It's almost like the talent show didn't happen
because the two people who win
respectively ruined the numbers that they were in.
But they're like, no, we're putting you out on the luau float in the pool.
It's really weird how the school just functions with two gangs.
Yeah, it does.
That they're very aware of.
Right, and it's like if you don't,
there are people there who don't belong to either of those,
but really only to be shoved and told to shut the fuck up.
I'm pretty sure the other kids at school are like,
they're a cult, and they're just totally okay with this.
The rest of the people are thriving.
Yeah, they're doing fine.
They're writing their own homework assignments,
and they're doing great.
Yeah, both of the gangs that run the school are dumb as rocks.
Like, all of them without reservation are full-on morons.
And, like, I would include Stephanie in that assessment, because we hear snippets of her essay.
Right.
And it is ridiculous.
There's that scene where they're at the diner and he's like helping her with her Shakespeare essay.
And everything that she's saying, just like making up words and saying very stupid things.
Like Shakespeare.
And it makes you wonder, why does Michael like her?
Obviously he wants to fuck her.
But like, what about her personality?
There's something great about Michelle Pfeiffer that very few people acknowledge.
And that is she looks like a very
dainty blonde lady but
she is the most Jersey
Italian persona
yeah
everything I've ever seen her and she's like I've
murdered some people now I'm here
but I looked
good doing it
I don't know why I easily love
those kind of characters where you're like
I feel like
she can just beat us all up. And I'm
quite content with that.
She's Catwoman.
Catwoman, Married to the Mob
is a phenomenal movie where she
is... Oh, I have seen that.
It's a good one. She's running away from the
mob. I would love to see Michelle
Pfeiffer run from the mob. Scarface
is another one
oh yeah i always forget that's her she's in scarface yeah oh so that was that was right
after grease too she was exactly weird it's a solid follow-up well i was reading a little bit
about maxwell caulfield who is very bitter aboutase 2 and like blames it for ruining his career
which I guess named something he did after I personally get but uh well there's like a quote
from him saying like oh they were saying I was the next Richard Gere but then Grease 2 sucked
and I never bounced back he was like in the elephant man on Broadway like he was a serious
actor and then I guess took took a gamble on a little
blockbuster and thought
that it kind of ruined his career.
Oh, please.
That's not true. Most of the people from that movie
kept working.
Right. Everyone's in...
It seems par for the course, but
he's bitter about it, baby.
I don't care.
How did he age?
I mean, I don't care. Is he still not, did he, how did he age? I mean, I guess realistically, he aged realistically.
Here's a picture of him now.
Oh, that's fine.
Yeah, he's doing fine.
He's okay.
It's not the way I prefer.
Perhaps not for me, but like.
He looks slippery.
He looks like he just covered in jam.
He's covered in grease.
A la grease.
I did really enjoy his solo number where, again, he's just wandering around singing to himself.
What's the name of the song?
Oh, Charades.
Oh, yeah.
Charades.
A lot of the singing in this movie sounds mumbled.
It is.
I think the only song I can recall is Cool Writer.
The other songs definitely fall to the wayside.
Well, there's this song about, I like how there's a whole song about women's reproduction.
When the substitute teacher just comes in.
I like that.
Most of the song and all the imagery on the board in the classroom is like
plants but he's drawing a woman's uterus and like fallopian tubes and she's a substitute give him a
break but anyway and then he's asking different members of the class when is it the best time for
a woman to conceive so i guess they're in sex ed class even though it seems like they're in biology
but then they sing the whole song which is obviously like subtext
and also the music teacher is watching
right she comes in
so she's a music appreciation teacher right
but then
but more importantly she's horny
but they're in her class
Stephanie submits her like Shakespeare essay
to her class
so she's also an English teacher
there's no
that's very confusing
what's happening at Rydell? Grease 1 and Grease 2 there's no it's very confusing what's happening at right
one and grease two are all about it's all about teen sex but no one is directly talking about it
in a manner that makes any sense right every student or really having it like characters
have sex in the first one because there's a pregnancy scare i feel like no one actually
has sex in this one well there's thatoff line that ends with the principal breaking the fourth wall,
where she's like, I haven't had my period in two months.
And then she makes some sort of punctuation joke.
Oh, she's like, you can stay after school to make those up.
Hilarious joke.
Right.
And then she goes, uh, and turns to a camera.
They're like, okay, I guess that was worthwhile.
I liked the reproduction song strictly for the
kid with the bass voice who goes like where does the pollen go 400 times oh i found it interesting
so many times on this podcast we have come across a movie where a man surprise kisses a woman just
out of nowhere without permission that happens in, yes, I thought of that, too.
That happens in this movie, except the roles are reversed,
where a woman surprise kisses a man.
What do we think?
Well, I think it's just about as okay as it is
when a man does it to a woman, which is not okay.
But he was, like, smitten by it.
Right.
Which is how they decided to portray that reaction in this movie might that happen in
real life to certain men sure but also other men might be like oh i don't want to be surprised
kissed without my permission right by anyone it is the trope and it isn't because the one i always
return to just because it's the most egregious example of that is the brendan fraser i know you're gonna
is the mummy where he's in a cage and he lunges feral fraser feral fraser he's shirtless he's
dirty he lunges at a woman and kisses her and then he's like you deserved it like it's like
the most insane throwaway scene in the mummy and we're still supposed to be like he's how romantic he can't
be controlled yes that's what i love about him he won't listen um but yeah i mean because they
played it i don't know he was into it i mean and maybe maybe i'm am i victim blaming maxwell
caulfield oh no I don't know.
That registered with me, too, but I was like, oh, but it made him so happy.
I mean, if people are going to kiss each other, let there be some lead in. Let the person know you were about to kiss them and make sure they're okay with it.
Let them go on a date first.
Yeah.
She will not accept his invitation for a date, no matter how many times he asks.
Tomorrow?
The next day?
The day after.
And she's like, you don't understand.
I'm beholden by this insane code.
Oh, yeah, and then she mumbles and walks away.
Unless you're this guy from my dreams.
And he'll show up.
And he does.
He does.
I love that precedent.
Look, that is very much, the movie is about the secret.
Yeah, Michelle, if I ever manifest hard in this movie.
To the point where he shows up at the gas station she works at.
She's overwhelmed.
Everyone's like, are you going to clean my windshield?
Can I pay for this?
Where are your maps?
She's like, I'm just going to get on the back of his motorcycle and run away.
Other trope we've come up against a number of times.
Woman who we know isn't like the other girls because she knows about a car.
She knows a thing or two about a car.
A la Julia Roberts in My Best Friend's Wedding.
And Transformers.
Megan Fox.
Right.
It's like I and we never see her do work on a car, but she says the word windshield.
We see her in something overall like and you're like, oh, okay.
She was definitely wearing the least amount of clothes to work on a car.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's working at like a gas station, like auto body shop.
Right.
People need maps.
Oh, my God. There was a time where that was true.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
I didn't even pick up on that.
Good noticing the trope, Jamie.
Ding, ding, ding.
I also love that this movie, I think, appeals to me so strongly because it is a movie with a lot of needless musical numbers, which I love.
And it's about a woman taking a man and fixing him
which is my objective yeah that is although she's not very active in fixing him he sort of he's the
one who's like i'm gonna change everything about myself even easier but it's a manifest destiny
she just like gives him the cliff notes via cool rider
of like this is what i need you to do come back when you've done exactly like freddie pince jr
had to she's all that yeah whole way through and she's like you know i'm not gonna lift a finger
for you if you want to be this person you have to figure it out you're gonna need to like put a
motorcycle together with scrap metal you're gonna need to put a motorcycle together with scrap metal. You're gonna need to
be practicing every day after
school with Frenchie
the weird feral adult who
wanders the street in her
old jacket making creams.
And he had to become the
best guy on the motorcycle.
Not even just good at a motorcycle, he had to become
the best. He jumps over
a hundred foot wide ravine.
She was not going to accept anything beneath a cool rider.
How did he get so good so fast?
Look, if you have the need and you have the energy,
look, it's her vision board.
She had the strength.
And he's manifesting too.
Two vision boards working at the same time
can do a lot of things.
I keep screaming this at my loved ones.
And no one responds.
You're right, though.
I mean, he changes everything.
So wait, are we to believe,
what happens at the end exactly?
So he comes back at the luau in his garb, in his goggles, in his leather vest.
It's basically the point of no return in Phantom of the Opera.
But then, so he reveals who he is and Stephanie's all like, cool, I like you still.
And then he's like, I wouldn't think you would have liked me if you knew who I actually was.
She's like, you're crazy.
You did the work.
Is he though? Because she said in the beginning, oh, I wouldn't like you would have liked me if you knew who I actually was. She's like, you're crazy. You did the work. Is he though?
Because she said in the beginning, oh, I wouldn't like you when you're you.
She's gaslighting him and I'm completely okay with that.
It's nice to see it the other way around every once in a while.
Like, no, I always liked you.
Oh, yeah.
You're not crazy at all.
Yeah, let her do it. Yeah. Please, let's see more women gaslighting men. You're not crazy at all. Yeah, let her do it.
Yeah.
Please, let's see more women gaslighting men.
You're right.
Hell yeah.
Well, there's like that small,
I feel like the only reason that was supposed to work,
besides the fact that nothing in this movie has to make sense per se,
is like there was a little bit of a connection in that scene in the diner
where she's like, you probably think I'm dumb.
And he's like, no, I think
you're really hot. He still doesn't
say, I don't think you're dumb.
Well, he's like, I'm dumb too. I just
have a British accent, so no one notices.
And I can say some big words.
Don't be insecure. You're writing
everyone at this high school's essays.
He's gaslighting himself.
Aren't we all?
That's the thing. If you're so good at gaslighting,
you'll eventually make somebody gaslight themselves.
And that is...
That's just another way of manifesting
and cutting out the middleman.
So in that way, she's like an evil mastermind
and I respect her.
Yes.
She got what she wanted
by literally putting the least amount of effort
and by just simply
a manipulative suggestion
you're right
via a very catchy song
maybe that's what we're all
probably the catchiest song
yeah
yeah I mean
Cool Rider is better
than any song in Greece
one
yeah
it doesn't mention
if you raped a woman
in it at all
which is
oh right
did she put up a fight
yeah that's still
right there
but I mean in this
one the the bomb shelter scene is like oh there is i mean at first she's like i want to leave and
he's like you can't you can't there's a war outside there's nuclear bombs dropping around
okay but they're both fucking dumb as rocks it's well yeah she he convinces her that the russians are dropping
nuclear warheads on them right just right then and she's like you're right we have to we have
to stay in here for our country and make love for our country and then i think they're about to start
like making out and then she's like wait a minute and then opens the door i forget what happens but
she opens the door and then the two other t-Birds fall out into the bunker that they're in.
And she does leave.
And she's like, oh!
So I like that there's a bunch of times in this movie
where the T-Birds, who are very toxic in their masculinity,
are being very toxic toward the women,
and they don't stand for it.
They're like, uh-uh, no, you're being gross, no thank you.
Well, they put up with it for a little bit, but then they eventually fight.
They succumb because they all end up together at the end, which is not ideal.
But I feel like in the first movie, a lot of that toxic masculinity went unchallenged.
Oh, yes.
Do you remember in one of the very opening scenes in the first Grease, there's just a guy lying on the bleachers
looking up a woman's skirt.
And then she, like, noticed.
Someone points it out to her, and she's just like,
ah, and she runs away.
And then all the other dudes are like,
oh, cool.
Well, that's why it's like, yeah,
the T-Bird characters are, like,
kind of unchanged from the first movie,
but it's just like they're not made to seem very cool.
Right, they're framed differently.
They're not in charge of the school. Yeah, yeah. Which is weird that they were ever in charge of the school to begin with. Because they're dumb made to seem very cool. Right, they're framed differently. They're not in charge of the school.
Yeah, yeah.
It was weird that they were ever in charge of the school to begin with.
Because they're dumb as fuck.
Like, Danny Zuko had to take a fucking P.E. class,
and he was so frail that he couldn't do anything.
I forgot about that, yeah.
Why are these guys in charge?
They know how to fix up a car.
And honestly, in my book, that's the hottest thing you can do.
Cars.
Cars, cars, cars.
Just kidding.
It's like they're the bad gang, and there's an even meaner gang that's cruel than them in a nearby school always, too.
Right, within motorcycle distance.
So those guys in the first one, they were all about cars, like convertible, whatever.
And then in this movie, it's all about the motorcycle.
Times are changing, baby.
Times are changing.
I'll be honest with you.
The motorcycle is my thing, too.
I get it.
I like it.
It's better.
I enjoy it.
Bad boys.
Seems like there's at least some element of skill involved.
Danny Zuko jumps no ravine.
Yeah.
No ravine is jumped.
He does drive through, like, under a bridge.
He almost got in danger.
Yeah, right. But also, like, there's no, like, He does drive through like under a bridge. He almost got in danger.
But also, there's no, like, there's zero,
I don't think there's any explanation of the ravine survival.
Right.
I think we just assumed that he made the jump and then hid for a few days.
Which is also like, the fuck are you doing?
I didn't even think of that yeah
where was he when he's hiding he's hiding one of two things happened you survived and you should
have been at school the next day or you managed to get an injury that required only two days of
recovery he's mysterious with parents well he lived with his aunt and uncle. Oh, so, okay.
So, Sandy's parents, I guess.
Also, this exchange program at the school,
just only taking in one student at a time.
And they're always white.
And announce them on the intercom the day they get there.
By the way, we have another white kid.
This is a very white movie, by the way.
Even whiter, I think, than the first movie.
I cannot confirm that because they're both very white.
Is there a non-white character in this movie?
I cannot recall
in either film. In the first
one, at least, you see a couple
extras who are people of color.
I don't even know if you see that in Grease 2.
No, I was just going to say,
looking at this wide shot
of the bowling scene is literally like a picture of Paul Ryan's interns.
Like a sea of white teenagers.
Very unappealing.
Any other scenes that anyone wants to talk, or any other points people would like to make?
Oh, man.
Oh, this is a great movie.
It's so fun.
I was prepared for like a, this was like positioned to me as like a great movie. It's so fun. I was prepared for like a...
This was like positioned to me as like a bad movie.
Yeah, because people mocked it for so long.
Yeah.
And I think it's one of those things where it's earned its own cult following.
And I prefer it more than the original.
Because it's just a little more effervescent and a little...
And there's more dynamics between human beings.
And just also, fucking...
I can't reiterate how great of a song Cool Writer is.
It is hands down.
It makes the movie.
Like, you should just listen to it in general as a song to listen to
because it actually holds up as a pop song on its own.
It's really... Yeah.
And it's... Oh, we didn't say female director.
Choreographer from the first movie, like Solomon said.
I love a choreographer-directed movie, i.e. all of the high school musical movies are directed by the choreographer.
And you can tell because story is not super important.
And the dance scenes are unbelievable.
Exactly.
And the dance scenes in this one are superior.
They're insane.
By far, yeah. They're great. More choreographer-directed movies. Wait, who is the director? What's one are superior. They're insane. By far.
Yeah.
They're great.
More choreographed.
Wait, who was the director?
What's her name?
Her name is Patricia Birch.
Yes.
Very good.
So she choreographed the first one and then directed and choreographed the second one.
I didn't even realize that.
I didn't do my research.
Whoops.
It's okay.
Yeah, I mean, I really liked it.
Well, okay.
Let me rephrase. I liked it. I'm not a big fan of musicals, I really liked it. Well, okay, let me rephrase.
I liked it.
I'm not a big fan of musicals.
I liked this one.
We'll never comprehend that apart of you, but we get it.
I know.
I liked this one a whole lot more than Grease 1.
And part of that is because I think it treats its female characters a little better.
You know, not a huge amount.
This could have been, if I was to rewrite this movie,
it would be about Stephanie.
She's smart, for one.
She's not a fucking dumbass idiot.
But everyone in this, like, I was like,
well, all the female characters are dumb.
I was like, oh, but all the male characters, everyone's dumb.
Everyone's dumb.
Except for Michael Carrington.
But he's also the dumbest of all.
Yeah. Because he changes to be more dumb.
He's like, I just want to put my dick in this blonde
lady so I have to pretend to be dumb
and change everything. But let's be fair,
is anyone in high school smart?
Yes, I was extremely
smart and good and I made no mistakes
and I was perfect.
I believe you, I believe you. I believe you.
I believe you.
I believe you.
I mean, even if you're like a dumb, immature teenager,
you can still be like academically smart.
You don't have to be a fucking idiot
who like can't string a sentence together
when you're writing a paper about Shakespeare.
So I would have just made her a little smarter.
Made her not so beholden to this weird code
that they've all decided is a thing
and been like actually i'm gonna go and make out with whoever i want which is something that she
says she's like i can kiss whoever i want whenever i want and then suddenly she's like actually nope
forgot the rules whoops so i would have had her be more proactive about like breaking these
established rules you you know,
breaking the status quo,
actually doing whatever she wants and not,
you know,
waiting till a man changes for her.
Although I do like that that happens.
So I don't know.
I just would have made her a little bit more.
Yeah.
I can in good conscience condemn a man changing.
For me.
Has to be
a behavior that I would encourage
under any circumstances.
But he's already, like, mostly perfect
on paper.
But if you're done as rocks, you wouldn't know.
You have to test that pliability.
Sure.
True. How willing are you?
You're supposed
to just assume he might change
yeah
your taste might change
over the years
exactly
so like
I just want to know
will you drive into
a ravine
for me
yeah
and he will
he will
I have that on my
tinder bio
you must be willing
to drive over a ravine
because guess what else
he'll do for you
wash the dishes
yeah
guess what else he'll do for you hide in the dishes. Yeah. Guess what else he'll do for you?
Hide in the woods for two days, faking his own death because of the Forcehead.
And if he's willing to do that, he'll take...
He'll not assume that you'll do his laundry.
That's...
That.
And he'll probably take as long as it takes to try to make you cum.
Oh, my God.
All the time.
If he's going to hide for two days, pretending to be dead He's gonna Go down on his own
Oh Michael Carrington
Eats pussy
An hour and a half
Hands down
There's zero doubt
100%
Like he
Moment one
You're like
This guy eats
Johnny
That's probably what he's
Been learning to do
Those two days
Just sucking on peach pits
Just making sure
The T-Birds think
eating pussy is
gross
yeah totally
they're like
or they'll do the thing
they're like the 10 second thing
like are you good
yeah
okay
my turn
you know
they're selfish lovers
and they have chodes
oh no
they probably go in
dick hard
ready to cum
in seconds
yeah
phew Oh no, they probably go in dick hard, ready to come in seconds. Pew!
All right.
Hey, let's talk about whether or not this movie passes the Bechdel test.
It does.
It for sure does.
Like in the first scene, whenever Miss McGee and Blanche come out and they're hanging up the flag.
Dude, that weird vaudeville scene. and Blanche come out and they're hanging up the flag. They're just like, they're just like,
oh, our students are going to accomplish great things.
It's going to be a great school year.
Blah, blah, blah.
And then it happens again,
like in the opening dance number.
Pink ladies are talking about stuff.
They're talking about being late.
The twin cheerleaders are like,
hey, Miss Mason's hair.
I love it.
All 300 pounds of it.
They're talking about their friend who gets the nose job. Yeah's hair. I love it. All 300 pounds of it. They're talking about
their friend who gets the nose job.
Yeah, they're talking about it. And then just
several times throughout the movie, because
there's a ton of female characters.
Probably more than men
even. At least ones with significant
screen time and speaking roles.
Yeah, because there's a lot of throwaway
motorcycle guys who are not
part of the rival guys.
But they don't talk to him.
Yeah, they don't really have lines or anything like that.
It's basically crater face, whatever his name is.
Yeah, they're mostly grunts.
Right.
Yeah.
And most of the men we see are those either, like, random substitute teachers or those motorcycle dudes.
So at least you get to see, like, a bit more.
There's different types of women with speaking roles in this movie.
But, yeah, it happens a bunch. There are a lot of scenes where women are talking and they are talking about men
but there are probably just as many scenes where they're not and there's a bunch of them yeah and
and most of the scenes with all men are they're lamenting or condemning women in some way so it's
it goes they're failing the reverse spectral test
is what they're doing.
Right.
Like this movie,
everyone's dumb in the same way.
It's weird.
So there is like a strange equality to it.
Yeah.
True.
Oh, I wanted to point out
that one of the T-Birds
is Thelma's husband
from Thelma and Louise.
Really?
Yeah.
He's being problematic. Yeah. He just loves being problematic.
Yeah.
That just happens.
He got typecasted as a shitty douchebag,
at least in those two movies.
I don't know what else he's in.
That's probably a good chance
that he's been a shitty douchebag in more than one.
Yeah, probably.
Character actors, you gotta love them.
I love a good character actor.
Speaking of which...
Alfred Molina.
Alfred Molina, conceivably,
given the age range, was eligible to play a high schooler in this movie oh what a missed opportunity couldn't we
have had him as they're like oh there's a lot of motorcycle and then there's this the beefcake and
he's a little different he's smart and then he and then he comes in. Well, he was just, he had just done his first role in Raiders of the Lost Ark, I think in
81.
So he was already in the circuit, you know?
He could have been.
He probably turned it down.
He probably got an offer.
Yeah.
He probably turned it down.
I assume that everything has been offered.
Okay, let's rate the movie.
We rate on our nipple scale of zero to five nipples based on specifically its portrayal of women.
I'm going to give it two, two and a half.
I'll go with a two.
Because while we do see Stephanie, the lead, having more agency than Sandy in the first movie,
it's still, you know, everything is framed around like the guy she's's gonna who's she gonna end up with her relationships to men and there are uh you do
see a lot of like female friendships in this movie although a lot of those aren't like poised as these
like great things that we should strive for because they're mostly just like mean to each other every
friendship in this movie is deeply toxic yeah the whole narrative just revolves around stephanie's pursuit of a man
or his pursuit of her so you know it's not and like i said she's a fucking idiot again everyone
is pretty much i don't know there just could have been a better representation of women
in this movie so it gets some some nipples off for that um that being said i did full set up yeah i did enjoy
watching this like i said i don't really like a lot of musicals but i did have a great time you
were right cool rider is a terrific song uh and two nipples they belong to i'm gonna say
miss mason who is like we didn't talk much about her but i love how she's mostly just like
i'm hot and i spend a lot of time on my hair
and I kind of want these high school boys to think I'm fuckable.
And that's...
Kind of?
Literally, he's like, I want to see all of you.
And she's like, we'll see.
She could easily also be a student,
given the strange age range.
Right.
So I wasn't super bothered by it.
Yeah, so my two nipples belong to Miss Mason, the music appreciation slash literature teacher at Rydell.
Catch all.
Yeah.
I'm going to give it three.
Okay.
Because I automatically am biased towards it because it is a fun movie musical.
I agree that all the problems you pointed out are very legitimate.
Pitting it against Grease 1, it's just...
It fares much better.
It's like a fan fiction better version of the first one
that works in favor of the female characters.
And while it would be cool for Stephanie to be like,
I'm actually going to do me right now.
That's not how this movie would end in any world.
And so I don't know.
I liked it.
I give a lot of stuff a pass because everyone in this movie is a fucking moron.
Right.
If the men were portrayed as more able to manipulate because even like the one big male manipulation
we see in the bomb shelter
falls apart because
everyone involved is a fucking idiot.
And the girls have the better songs
across the board.
The teacher is weird
but also her male counterpart is weird.
And then there's the guy
from the first movie
who passes out in the pool
everyone is he's suffering from mental exhaustion or something like that he's very sick because the
last time we see him he has just fallen over he's just slouched over at he has like a mouthful of
pills that he's trying to swallow and then like a girl screams because there's a rat on her desk.
And then he just passes out.
He has muscular dystrophy.
He doesn't have control over his body.
But anyways, that's another movie.
I'm going to give it three.
I'm going to give one of them to Mr. Spears because I just want to know more.
And then I'm going to give the other two to Paulette because I feel like she ended the movie still thinking she was second best and I wish
that she thought, I wish she hadn't settled for
Johnny but I'm sure she like figures that out
She should have gone with that nerd guy at the beginning
who was like, talking about like the lockers
and he's like, you can't go to
those lockers!
What a weirdo!
Or he's like, you have to lock your locker because these
guys will steal everything! He says lockers like 45 times and then leaves. Oh, actually that's a really funny joke because he's like, you have to lock your locker because these guys will steal everything. He says lockers like 45 times and then leaves.
Oh, actually, that's a really funny joke because he's speaking to him as though he does not understand English very well because he's from a different country.
But his country invented the damn language.
He's like, lockers, lockers.
You've got to look out.
They're tough boys.
Lockers, lockers.
And then just turns around and leaves.
And then a tough boy comes up and he's like, hey, lockers, lockers, and then just turns around and leaves. And then a tough boy comes up and he's like, hey, lockers. Oh, I also wanted to point out, while Stephanie has more agency than like
Sandy in the first movie, she still is not very active. She's just sort of like gliding through
the story. Pretty much the only active character is Michael, who's just like changing everything
about himself. So if the movie went my
way, the way I wanted it to,
she would have had a greater desire and
done something to actually pursue that and
been more active in that. But, you know, whatever.
I will do, I'll actually go with
the three nipples as well. And I definitely do
agree, the movie should have been
the end of the movie should have been the T-Birds
being completely dismantled and
burned to the ground.
They represent
the patriarchy.
At the end of the movie
let's dismantle it.
It should have just been
okay I got my dream guy
hey pink ladies
we're gonna go punch
these fucking T-Birds
in the face.
That would have been
a great ending
to the movie.
Kind of like in the end
of Mean Girls
when they're like
let's not be mean girls anymore
and then when they're seniors
you see they're just like
all friendly and cool and hanging out with whoever and then you see the junior plastics and they're like, let's not be Mean Girls anymore. And then when they're seniors, they're just all friendly and cool and hanging out
with whoever. And then you see
the junior plastics and they're like,
what a mistake they're making.
If it ended with that, yeah.
That would have been the better ending.
And if I'm going to give my nipples to anything, I'd be to the ravine
and whatever happened in there.
Whatever discarded nipples are in there.
Maybe he
fell into the ravine
was knocking
on death's door
there's a wizard
down there
and he's like
I'll grant you
three wishes
but you have to
sell your soul
to me
right
I'm like combining
a genie
and a devil
yeah
okay
there's
there's some
ravine
there's some
billy goat
down there who's like, look.
There's a riddle.
Also, this half-ass wish-making that he's doing down there.
Basically, he encounters a mythological creature down there who's willing to revive him and grant him life.
A centaur.
At a huge price.
So now Michael's walking around without a soul or without a dick or something, but he's alive.
We got to watch Grease 3.
We never see
what's going on there. Yeah, we'll find out.
I'll write it. I'll write Grease 3. Okay.
Because you can bring his cousin back in
and they have to do...
Oh, God. Oh, Solomon,
thank you so much for being here.
Thank you. It's been a delight.
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I'm at thesolomongeorgio.com.
That is my website with all my dates.
I'm also at Solomon Georgio on Twitter and Solomon Georgio everywhere else.
I'm the only one.
If there is another one, murder them.
Yeah, there could be only one.
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I can't change it. It's been 10 years.
Don't change yourself. Don't be Sandy. Don't be Michael Carrington. Be you.
Yeah, my best self. A Juno reference.
Jesus Christ.
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