The Besties - Blessed to Play Cursed to Golf

Episode Date: August 19, 2022

This week, at least three of us dirty dogs are fulfilling our every fantasy by putting our way through purgatory in Cursed to Golf! Also, we dump out the mailbag again, and dive into it like so many leaves. Also discussed: Minecraft, Journey, Return of the Obra Dinn, Desert Golfing, Her Story, Contradiction, Pokemon Go, Going outside, Poinpy, Gigabash, Rollerdome Get the full list of games (and other stuff) discussed at www.besties.fan. Want more episodes? Join us at patreon.com/thebesties for three bonus episodes each month!

so the game we're talking about today is cursed to golf which features a guy who really likes golf like favorite thing in the world and yet is cursed to golf forever it's sort of one of those like oh you know you're gonna eat all the donuts because you love donuts until you get sick situation yeah so i wanted to know what do you think y'all would be cursed by? Oh. Because for me, it's cereal. I think I would just have way too much cereal. That's interesting.

Everybody's like rushing to think of something they enjoy. Well, cereal's mine, right? So like that, it's tough. Because Rust did take mine. Do you think you and I would be cursed the cereal together? Oh, that would be my hell. You know, it's like for eternity, I've got all the cereal I want. But that sounds like actually more like purgatory now that I say it.

What are those brown, they look like squared off donuts, that cereal? They're like oat, some nonsense. cereal. They're like some nonsense. That would be my true cereal hell. What? Cracklin' Oat Bran? Is that what that's called? Yeah, probably.

Ugh. Ugh. That's a hate cereal. Cereal hell right there. Cursed to cereal. Cursed to cereal. I think we'd probably be like watching like foreign films. Mmm.

You know? Well, not foreign films. Just art house movies where it's like oh you know it's really fun watching paris texas but like afterwards you don't want to do it again or or maybe they're all like very poorly dubbed oh that would be like the kind of the monkey paw twist right that i get to watch anime for as long as I want, but it's all terrible. Really bad dubs. I can't stand it when it's a dub.

Really? There are good dubs. No, I have to have... I don't like this intro. I don't like who it's made us. Griffin, what brings you joy so we can twist it into something horrible? You guys are describing doing a thing you like forever. That's heaven. We have a name for it.

Okay. He's not cursed to golf. He's having a great time golf with all his friends. And when he's done golfing, he golfs some more. It's amazing. The whole, the whole thing is a,

it's a failed state is a fault flawed premise. And I think they should be forced to give refunds in the Steam store. Blessed to golf. Blessed to golf. Blessed to golf. Thank you. My name is Justin McElroy, and I know the best game of the week. My name is Griffin McElroy, and I know the best game of the week. My name is Christopher Thomas Plant, and I know the best game of the week.

My name is Russ Froschek, and I know the best game of the week. Hello, welcome to the besties, where we talk about the latest and greatest in home interactive entertainment. This week, a lovely new little game called Cursed to Golf. A great title, but Chris Plant, what is that title describing? Cursed to Golf is a golf roguelike where you golf across 18 dungeons that are very large. They're not like normal golf courses.

And the way that you get to the end is by hitting little totems that give you extra hits. And there are special cards and we'll talk about it all after the break stay tuned for that and so much more I was playing this game I'm not going to have as much thought

I was playing this game and the main thought that I kept having while I was playing it was like man I bet those other besties really really are going wild for this one it's like a gulf spelunky where you get to watch a little turd die over and over again i know that makes you that just drives you all wild with the light is watching some little guy pie get his get his just desserts ad infinitum like like uh uh spelunkyunky and then what's the one you like?

Binding of Isaac. Yeah, Binding of Isaac and those games like that. It's very much in the spirit, but then our most boring sport is layered on top of it. I bet you guys are just going hog wild for this one. Yeah, this is very much scratching an itch for me that I think maybe not everyone. It's like you had a third foot that got an itch on it that i think maybe not everyone it's like you had a third foot that got an itch on it you're like whoa that is nice surprise foot yeah it's uh it is a wild combination of those roguelike and golf in a way that i was not expecting them to go as

hard as they do like this is a very difficult game in the spirit of very difficult roguelikes like spelunky and and uh stuff like that and i was not expecting them to come out of the gate so intensely with such high difficulty uh and they did they went for it they go for it uh hard so to describe a little bit more of how it works it's a 2d golf game which you can only see like a little bit around you you cannot see like the full course at all times and you basically need to navigate to a hole that is very very very far away um and the way you do that is by obviously hitting the ball you have three clubs wedge iron and driver and then you also have uh cards that give you special powers so like the ball can do a u-turn mid-air, or you can turn it into a rocket and drive it different places, or you can just get extra hits by using a card.

And that's the core game, but then there are also alternate paths to the whole, and some of them are much harder or more difficult than others. of them are much harder or more difficult than others and if you choose to go after them you'll be rewarded if you pull the shot off but you'll be extremely punished if you miss the shot because again very limited on the number of shots that you have at any time yeah there is very little room for error it is it is uh i think we've talked about sort of Super Stickman Golf, a game that we have been obsessed with in its many variations. What is it now? Golf Blitz? Is that what Noodle Cake went on to make? Which is to say it's like a 2D golf game, which inherently doesn't have like a lot of, when you remove one of the dimensions from golf, it reduces the complexity of the sport dramatically i would say uh but this game you know gets around it in the same way that those those um noodle cake games do where you have these cards that give you different sort of shots and different abilities

there's like a card that stops your ball in midair and makes it just drop right where it is. And then there's a U-turn card that lets you switch sort of the direction of your ball. And there's all kinds of these special abilities that you kind of have to use in order to get through the courses, because the courses are, each hole is enormous. It is not traditional by any stretch of the imagination we're talking about like 10 to 20 shots to get through each each hole i would say on average i was viewing them more i think as like a um power-up but you know that you would see in these traditional games when you just need a little boost but it's really more of a problem-solving, puzzle-solving type thing where,

to give you an example, there'll be a shortcut, but the shortcut is blocked by TNT. So you can use one of your cards to blow up the TNT because there's a TNT dynamite exploding card. They also explode when you hit them, but you can save yourself a shot that way, right? So you can blow that up, but your arc of your shot isn't going to be exactly right to get down through that shortcut.

So you have to use, I don't know, something that stops time and then makes your ball just like fall down the hole to get to the shortcut. So you're like planning these routes and then using the cards to like use your sneaky little route that you wanted to use. the cards to like use your sneaky little route that you wanted to, to, to use. Yeah. It's Griffin. It's funny that you mentioned,

you know, by removing the dimension, there's less complexity to it. I actually might feel differently because the, if you think about like hotshots golf, for example, 3d golf game been around forever. When I play that game, it's like a meditative,

like zone out kind of game. Cause effectively every hole is going to play out pretty similarly you're you know driver to fairway to wedge to whatever to putting and you know in this game you can't do that because it's a game effectively about angles and making sure that you have the right like you know angle to make the next shot it's almost like pool in that way. So it feels like there's a lot more planning in this game than there would be in a 3D traditional golf game. Yeah, I understand that.

It's so bizarre the way that this game does golf that it weirdly does not scratch that itch that you described justin like i love a golfing rpg but the way that you maneuver through these through these holes each hole is like a maze with different routes that you can take through uh and you know some of them have these like statuettes that you have to smash in order to get additional shots added to your shot counter. Because if that ever runs out, you die and your run is over. And so it's like, okay, do I go through this more straightforward path that has a silver idol that's going to give me two extra shots? Or do I burn some of my cards to go through this harder path that I might not even be able to get through but then i get four extra shots added to my total um and those considerations are i think give the

game the complexity that it needs but it also like it it i don't know i found myself at times just kind of wanting to play golf there are a lot of games that do that no it is there's there's weird stuff with like uh the camera is so tight that you can't really see uh where your shot is going to go typically which is like another layer of difficulty that feels artificial because this is a two-dimensional game so like you would be able to see like it's very arbitrary that you can't see further, further than you can. You can like pan around, but you can't do that in combination with your like shot arc.

Yeah. I found myself like trying to abuse the system a little bit by, okay. If the arrow, like I was trying to like use the edges of the screen to like almost make invisible markers for myself to try to figure out where the ball is going to go after i hit it and that does feel forced in a way that it just kind of shouldn't i i realize why it's there it's probably a design decision to make the game a little more challenging yeah but it feels just a little forced on that front um i do like tonally you know most golf games lack any tone at all um this game goes for like a cartoony you know representation of purgatory where there's these

like bosses that you face and they've got like boss fights where you do like a match like a stroke play against or a match play against them those are fun by, by the way. I like those where you're like competing against another person. It lets you balance between like distance and using your cards because you're not only burning through shots, you're also trying to keep ahead of the other player. Yeah, those are some of the hardest parts of the game

later on just because there's so little room for error and you're trying to like stay ahead of this other person person but i just like the fact that like they're all you know the first guy you face is like a scottish um i forget his name but he's scotsman the scotsman right there you go so close so close and it's just like a very goofy representation of like a variety of ghosts that you might face in a golf themed purgatory uh and each area i think there's four areas in total has their own like little boss fight character to introduce you to they also mix up the gameplay a bit because each of the areas even though it's one 18 hole course it's kind of split up so that there are themes so the first theme is kind of like a temple jungle theme and then you kind of go into like more like sahara

desert dunes kind of theme so they definitely mix up what you're facing yeah it is it is i i think it is a very very cool idea and i think that when you think of a golf i i think a golf roguelike in in this style is a hard thing to kind of figure out and so a lot of these mechanics like uh you know the cards and the shot counter and the uh not being able to see everything all of the time uh all kind of goes hand in hand to build out the the challenge of it because i think you could remove some of those things and the game would be like dead simple yeah um so i understand that stuff but i also um i don't i don't know it didn't really it didn't really click for me in the way that i was hoping it would. For me, it has the very classic roguelike fun graph,

which is like in most games that are not roguelikes, they start out as fun as possible, as early as possible, but then they drop off, and after like 10 or 12 hours, they're like, well, I'm seeing what I'm here to see. I'm just getting the same feeling over and over again. What I like about roguelikes, but what makes them very difficult, is I feel like they're the least amount of fun at the beginning, and for, like, hours, as you figure out what the game is,

and you figure out if it's fair, and you figure out what type of strategy you want to use for it. And then, deep, deep into the game, you're suddenly playing for, you know, like, dozens, hundreds of hours, sometimes, in the case of Frust playing for you know like dozens hundreds of hours sometimes in the case of frustics you know binding of isaac and i think that this game has that i'm not i'm not far enough to say for certain that it will get to be that rewarding but the more i play the more i do like it it could be a little more rewarding for the beginning i mean i i i really like hades was fun the first time I played it.

And this has nothing to do with Hades, but like it is the same structure. So like I just wanted it to be a little bit more fun early. I mean, like I made, I played for four hours before I got like in four hole, like four holes deep. Like I was like, it was brutal. Like I just made it to the first boss,

like right before we started recording, I beat him. Thanks. But like, I, I just wish it would give you a little bit more, like a little bit easier ramp up a little bit slower. So you could kind of feel like you're getting the hang of it.

Cause there's a lot of stuff that I had to like, not holding onto cards and the importance of using spin, which you basically need to use on like every shot to kind of get it where you need to so you don't end up in a bad position I wish that it had just like ramped that up a little bit slower because there's also no sort of like permanent upgrade there's very few I will say permanent like upgrades like you'd see in a lot of modern roguelikes. So it made it like really demoralizing to finish and then like just not have, you know, not feel like I learned much and not have very much progress to show for it. And I was struggling with that for sure.

Yeah, it's definitely tough. And I understand, especially for people that like aren't into the more traditional roguelike structure of a game like binding of isaac where you aren't unlocking advantages as you play uh as you do in a game like hades um and i can definitely see why people kind of get turned off by that for me the roguelike thing has always been about like i'm gonna learn these systems and because i'm gonna know the system so well every decision that i'm making early on will then pay off later on where i'll have this huge advantage build up because i know everything that's going on and i'm spending the cards in the right way such that like i got to hold nine or so and i had like 50 cards built up in my collection because I just knew when

to use them versus when not to use them and was just doing very well it's extremely tough to balance a game like this because you're trying to balance for like me who gets really hardcore into it and then someone else who's like I'm just gonna play like a casual golf game where every single shot that you're doing early on if you screw it up will punish you in some way later on because you don't have that card available or that resource so it can be very daunting for people so i totally understand why people might bounce off of it russ i feel like you've been pushed into a position on this episode where you're like defending against our individual points and i'd love to hear just like your as somebody who

i feel like this is probably closest to your individual wheelhouse like how is it how is it clicking for you yeah i mean it's interesting because you're the points that you bring up especially about the like not feeling like i'm getting it um don't necessarily apply to me just because i was that is the nicest way anybody has ever said i'm better at video games than you i mean truly truly i am really great but it's like a class i wasn't hitting grade very elegant i wasn't hitting that wall that you were hitting um such that i was feeling like i was constantly making progress where i'd get like two or three holes further than i had on the previous run um i agree with griffin's point or whoever said it about the about the viewing angle stuff it does it is frustrating to like not have full clear

visibility into where exactly the ball is going to go but i think mechanically overall like i find it very satisfying like i'll be in a situation where i know i can spend one card maybe it's like the practice shot card where i'm going for like a statue to like increase my stroke total i can spend one card and get this huge advantage if i play the hole right or if i play the the shot exactly right that i wouldn't have normally and that huge advantage kind of paces me ahead of where the game thinks i might be at that time so that maybe the next hole is a lot easier, where I get a bunch of currency that I can buy even more cards. I think the minute to minute like decision making feels very true to the roguelike formula in a way that like it's kind of incredible that they managed to merge those two with golf um it's it's it is a bizarre very creative attempt at it that might maybe gets a little more creative than

it needs to be but overall I really dig it I feel like they they I it's interesting I feel like a lot of our complaints here are not necessarily like, would not necessarily surprise the makers of this game. I feel like there are a lot of decisions in this game that feel like it was made to be loved deeply and not widely necessarily. Like there's a lot of stuff they could have done to make this more accessible, but like the people that it did hook, I don't think it would hook them as deep as this, I suspect, will for a lot of people.

Yeah, I think that's fair. We have a full mailbag. Do you want to go empty it on the other side? Yes. Yeah, I'll start untying it, and then we'll just dump it out. Okay, we're back. i've got the mailbag i have poured it onto the floor i'm getting thousands of paper cuts and blood everywhere but i've got great questions i picked some that are i think just for each of you the first one

you'll never guess who this one's for this one is from ethan has fortnight peaked has fortnight peaked didn't they just add goku fucking goku is in it now so what a ridiculous question maybe that is peaking right that might be peaking that might that might prove your point griffin i don't know when you go from goku it peaks it peaks with buckaroo Banzai like once they have Buckaroo Banzai truly there will be once they find the audience of 50 years and older it'll really peak is what you're saying I mentioned last time

watching a lot of John Carpenter movies just fucking get Jack Burton from Big Trouble in Little China into Fortnite how great would that be i mean that's the thing is like there doesn't seem to be any line that they won't cross from like a crop like they just added robocop recently like robocop hasn't had a movie i guess they did that terrible reboot you gotta call him robert cop you guys aren't close robert i'm sorry i'm

sorry robert cop they added robert cop i mean he hasn't had a well i guess they did that reboot which yeah but but generally speaking like this was the retro 80s robocop that they added so they are hitting both the like kids that like the various things that kids like and also people for the olds like us all kids love robocop It's intuitive and instinctual. My kid's scared of RoboCop. My kids love RoboCop. Your kid's scared of him? Yeah, he's kind of a scary guy.

He's not real. Robot Griffin. RoboCop ain't real. Wait, wait, wait. It's because you showed him the actual movie RoboCop. And it was a little too violent for his taste. A little too. When ED-209 like blasts that board.

He was losing it, man. He loved that. He was calling an ambulance. Fortnite has a mini, I just want to say this, has a mini ED-209 that you ride around like a little pet dog. You ride on his back.

Fortnite, you have to give Fortnite credit for always making the, almost every single time, Fortnite makes the funnest possible choice with almost no accountability towards anything, like propriety, physics, anything. Fortnite just does the dumbest, funnest thing you can think of at any given time.

It's amazing. It's like dumping a big cube of action figures out and just be like, I don't know, and Spider-Man gets a lightsaber. You know what I mean? It's like, it's amazing. What a delight. I don't think you can-man gets a lightsaber you know it's like it's amazing what a delight i don't think you can like say fortnite peaked it's only a thing you'll know after it's happened because it's like you know counting out touchdown tom brady or or saying like you know is zelda is

zelda done you know can zelda get any better and then it always you know then you get breath of wild and you're like i guess it can yeah then it gets worse wow no i love breath of wild i'm just saying like zelda does zelda as a franchise is not on an ever-improving arc that is true it's had uh ebbs and flows this is from uh rachel if you could only recommend one video game to someone what would it be? What a wild one. Fuck, that's good. Yeah, well, actually, Justin. I know nothing about the person, right?

Yes, and I will say, because I want you to have the room to get both these answers. Kate asked a similar question, but targeted it to you, Justin, with, if I wanted to dip my toe into FMV world, what game should I start with? So, Justin, if you have two dip my toe into FMV world what game should I start with so Justin if you have two answers that's acceptable yeah I would not recommend an FMV game as much as I love them would not be the game

that I would like recommend to all people I got mine because I think I said this when we were talking about this game a lot I think I would recommend Curse of the Obra Dinn to anyone. Really? I don't know that it would...

It's not the most accessible game, but it is the most rewarding and clever game that I think I've ever played. And I think that that is universal in a way that that people would groove with and it's accessible in the sense that like you don't need like leet skills like you're just moving around a 3d space so it's like pretty simple that's a good pick i like that pick um mine is just another golf game because i think golf games are kind of the perfect thing to recommend everybody Everybody knows how they work immediately. And that's desert golfing. I think.

Oh, well, that's a good example of a golf game. I was going to say some golf games get pretty complicated, but desert golfing has very little going on. You could hand it to anybody and they would lose a few hours no matter who they are. I think that's fair. Uh, I would probably go with journey, which is a game that i've talked about previously but journey i think encapsulates the spirit and magic of like triple a high entertainment games in a way that is like super approachable there's no real like there's like one button you have to

worry about there's no dialogue it's just like we're gonna walk you through this environment and you're gonna have an amazing like cinematic experience doing it uh yeah i could hand that game to anyone they'd probably be pretty overjoyed um i think i'd probably go with minecraft oh it's just like it's satisfying on a basic level, but if you want to do other stuff, you can do other stuff, but it definitely serves... I'm trying to keep my wife in mind because she's not a huge game player,

but even Minecraft was something where you could turn it on together and just kind of work on a little house or project or whatever. And I think the reach of Minecraft backs me up a little bit in terms of like broad appeal.

Yeah, you think they're doing okay? They're doing all right. Yeah. Justin, if somebody did want to get into FMVs, what would your game be?

Probably Her Story. I mean, I know that's a little bit cliched. No, that's good. I mean, Her Story is... It's cheating because that's a little bit cliched. No, that's good. I mean, her story is... It's cheating because that's a good one. Like, it feels like...

Interesting. I feel like if you're trying to get somebody into FMVs, you should give them a more representative cross-section of the genre. I mean, if you... Honestly, like, if I'm answering this personally, and I think that Griffin will probably agree with me on this um i i think that if i was trying to do like the best to get you excited about it um i would probably go with um her story sorry i just like just said it um but like if i

i know it's just said it a second ago um but if i wanted to like give you like an actual representation of like what is good about these it's got to be contradiction i mean like contradiction is my fate it's probably my favorite fmv game it's griffin you remember that fucking wild joint right contradiction? Contradiction? When did it come out? No, we played it together. The guy asked all the questions. It's an FMV game by a music composer named Tim Fallon who you go person to person and you're asking them questions. And it's all FMV.

The entire thing is FMV. There's almost FMV. Like the entire thing's FMV. There's almost no interface. And you're like, you can ask people about whatever. So there's a lot of scenes of like well-meaning British actors trying to explain why they don't know about someone's bike. Remember the bike, Griffin? Yeah, okay. Now I remember. What do you think about this bike?

And he asked everyone a different way. Like, this bike, what are we thinking about it? What do you think of this bike and he he asked everyone a different way like this bike what are we thinking about it what do you think of this bike and like three four three people like it's a bike i don't know it's a bike it's so funny i love i love contradiction there's many like better ones i guess probably but like you want to talk about the one that delights me is everything i love about f and v it's contradiction. One more question. This one's from Graham. Have you tried your Steam Deck plugged into a monitor or TV?

Can it effectively replace a gaming PC? Have any of you tried that yet? The dock's not out yet, right? Yeah, the dock's not out. So you have to do it with a third-party dock or what is it? One of those things that lets you plug in a whole bunch of different USBs what is it? But, you know, one of those things that lets you play a whole bunch of different USBs. Yeah, like a USB hub.

Yeah. No, I have not done that. I have not either. I feel like if you're using it to game on a monitor, you would only be able to do it with, like, 2D pixel-y games, because the second you're trying to run anything 3D, it's probably going to have to run

at like 720p to run well and that's not going to look great on like a big tv yeah i i've i've used it and it works fine in a pinch and i say that even as a graphics knob but but fresh is right you you will notice that it does not look great that said if like you're sort of like if your current experience is an original xbox one and original playstation 4 you could fuss with the settings and it probably would look pretty comparable um but yeah i i personally think it looks much much much much better in handheld mode and uh yeah i i don't think it's quite there yet i mean i basically found myself i haven't hooked it up to a monitor but i'll just use it in handheld and really like make a lot of use out of the cloud saving for when i want to like play something on a big screen i'll just

like switch to my laptop i realize not everyone has another computer in the house that could play games, but that's been my go-to. Okay. Honorable mentions. I went out for the first time on like an evening date with my wife since our child was born. It's been like a year and

a couple months. And that was very nice. We had a nice night out uh we went to forest hills stadium and saw some live comedy with um bill burr and uh keith robinson performed uh and i don't know man getting out and like doing stuff makes a huge difference um forest hills stadium for what it's worth was the original stadium where the u.s open was held the tennis u.s open it's this like very cool throwback to like another era of like i don't know new york where uh it's just like this retro uh venue that doesn't feel modern at all but also has like you

know modern amenities food and stuff like that um But it was just like a really nice thing. And it was good to see live comedy again. I haven't seen that in years face to face. So it was just like a really delightful night out. Do yourself a favor, leave the house. That's my recommendation. I've still been playing Pokemon Go. Still pretty cool.

We've been going to a lot of playgrounds uh here in dc and each one has a gym and the gyms are filled with the children's idiot pokemon here's my chancy hey buddy i put my chancy up they have a lot of health um not when my may champ gets in there and does them so fucking dirty. It's so satisfying to just trounce little kids' Pokemons that you know that they put in there. Yeah, no, it's a cool game. There's always an event going, which I don't think I appreciated about Pokemon Go. There's always some sort of themed thing going on. For the last week, it was this bug- event where more bug Pokemon spawned and there were

like quests about catching specific bug Pokemon and then like super powerful bug Pokemon spawned in all the raids. And we, we tore up the town. It was good. Good time. Hoops. How about you?

It's just the same stuff. Still playing in that point P it's really the same stuff. Still playing that point P. It's a really cute little mobile thing. Between this and next week, I've been basically just those two games. Did you realize you can't talk about something that we're going to be playing later? I mean, you can.

You could say that we're playing it. Yeah, Saints is is that's next week's thing and i've been playing a lot of that because i it's a big thing yeah uh i've been playing gigabash which is like power stone meets kaiju battles in cities destructible cities griffin i we should try to make some time to play it. I feel like I should love this game. And I'm like pretty mixed on it. But tons of people love it. Tons of people keep recommending it to me because they understand Yes, this is a very Chris plant game. I find the single player pretty frustrating. And I'm wondering if like, hey, that's just some balancing issues. And if I got into more

multiplayer, I would really, really click with it. it so i'm gonna keep picking at it i wanted to share it just because i think there are a lot of people out there and by a lot i mean like five to six who are looking for that power stone fill in their life and this is close it's it's it's really charming i just i like the name maybe some balancing issues griffin if you got into i was was going to ask you guys if Griffin or Plant, either of you guys played, or Fresh Tech, I guess, played Roller Drone? I was going to ask about that. The new Roll 7 thing?

It's not out yet. I think it comes out like today or tomorrow when we're recording. Looks fun. But I haven't played it, but I hear it's excellent. Yeah, it looks superb. No, I love Roll 7. It's a 3D rollerblading game where you are shooting people.

And you have to do tricks to reload your weapons. It kind of has like a 1970s sci-fi action movie aesthetic. Fuck yes. Oh, man, I'm looking at a trailer now. This looks hot as hell. Yeah, it looks gorgeous. Got great reviews. movie aesthetic fuck yes oh man i'm looking at a trailer now this looks hot as hell yeah yeah it looks gorgeous got great reviews uh and it's kind of crazy because roll seven just you know a few months ago ollie world right ollie ollie world which is also really well received they're having

quite the year they are such a good developer like they make way different shit and it's almost always like super duper fun do you guys remember not a hero i don't know their other stuff beyond the ali ali franchise so they had a game called not a hero which was like this run based like uh john woo style action game that was like 2d pixel art and you just had to like chart a course through these buildings like jumping and sliding and shooting and and like it was very slick and run-based uh just just like uh just like ollie ollie world was yeah that sounds awesome yeah it was as good as hell game wanted to thank the following people for writing reviews for the besties on apple podcasts we have x e x z d i guess is how you holy shit e x z i s d

i don't know how to pronounce that you pull these names right yeah i guess i should have written just look for daves just find the daves that's true uh might be uh pag kahari and barkle thank you for writing reviews for the besties thank you to everyone else for reviews for the besties and has shared the show on twitter or various other places um really appreciate it it makes a big difference for us i know here are the games we talked about this week cursed to golf minecraft journey return of the oprah din desert golfing her story contradiction pokemon go the very idea of going outside pointy gigabash and roller dome Journey, Return of the Oprah Din, Desert Golfing, Her Story, Contradiction, Pokemon Go, the very idea of going outside, Pointy, Gigabash, and Roller Dome.

And next week, we're talking about Saints Row. Not Saints Row 1 from, you know, 2013. Saints Row 2022. It's a reboot. It is, I would say, more tasteful. But, you know, still a little like still a little, still a little like, Ooh, yeah,

a little spicy. We will talk about that and whatever super old tennis place of fresh dick went to. And so much more next week on the besties, because should the world's best friends pick the world's best games? Besties!