The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly - Cradle Of Love with Billy Idol

Episode Date: April 11, 2025

As the gang waits for legendary rockstar Billy Idol to grace the studio, they brainstorm questions to ask him and try to create a cool nickname for Bobby. When Billy enters, Bob peppers him with many... compliments. Jay shows off his interviewing skills with questions about the "Cradle Of Love" girl in the video. Billy once lived in New York City for a while and tells of his early punk days. He was in the The Doors movie with Val Kilmer who passed away days ago. Bob says that Billy basically stole the "Wedding Singer" movie with his surprise appearance in the end. Billy Idol is on tour at the end of April and has a new album "Dream Into It" which the guys are really digging so far. *JOIN US FOR A SPECIAL TAPING OF THE BONFIRE LIVE FROM NASHVILLE ON TUESDAY APRIL 8TH! IF YOU’LL BE IN THE NASHVILLE AREA ON APRIL 8TH, VISIT SIRIUSXM.COM/THEBONFIRENASHVILLE BEFORE 5 PM EASTERN ON APRIL 4TH FOR YOUR CHANCE TO ATTEND.  NO PURCHASE NECESSARY TO ENTER OR WIN. MUST BE A RESIDENT OF THE CONTINENTAL U.S. AND AT LEAST 18 TO WIN.   *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolfSubscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of The Bonfire ad-free and a whole week early.  Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And now the bonfire with Big Jay Olkerson and Robert Kelly You put your headphones on wrong, haha No, I don't know what's wrong the right is this quarter left. That's the way you're supposed to be sorry Well one it says left and one says right See that one see the L Right there right there something right there. It's right there. Where? Right there. Don't you hate when people do that? It's right there. It's right there. They're pointing at something they couldn't possibly point it to. It's over there. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:00:35 It's there. It's right over there. What's up? What's up? It's my first Spank song. I'm going to tell him that when he comes in. You jerked off to this song? The video. Maybe the hot girl. I know. We have to ask about that video girl. She's insanely hot. Let's make the whole interview about the video girl. It is the bonfire. Faction Talk Series XM 103. Big Jay Ogerson sitting with the great Robert Kelly as always. Hi buddy. You wrote a cheat sheet? No, it's not a cheat sheet. We have to get better at interviewing. Of course. I wasn't shitting on it. Well don't call it a cheat sheet because
Starting point is 00:01:06 I've been called a cheater a lot in my life. Okay. I've cheated a lot in my life. All right. I wrote a book on it. I don't know if you've heard about it. These are the words, cheaters of love. I have PTSD when someone says you're a cheater.
Starting point is 00:01:18 I just see Don with my laptop, my iPhone, my iPad. You motherfucker. There's some video recently where like done with my laptop, my iPhone, my iPhone. You motherfucker. There's some video recently where somebody, they were trying to give his phone or something to his girl and he's getting arrested and he just threw the phone in the water. No. He goes, we'll give your stuff to your wife.
Starting point is 00:01:38 While he's sitting here he's like, she just throws it right in the water. That was a funny Dan Cooke bit when he said, you ever wanna know if your guy's cheating? Go, hey, can I use your phone for a second? If he throws it on the the water. That was a funny Dan Cooke bit when he said, you ever want to know if your guy's cheating? Go, hey, can I use your phone for a second? If he throws it on the ground and lights it on fire, he's cheating. Ah!
Starting point is 00:01:52 My phone's broken. Oh, that was a, oh, I just took a sip with a lid on. I would do that if they were like, hey, I'm gonna give your phone to Lewis to hold on to. Right in the water. Lewis who? Lewis J. Gomez. Oh, the ratt Lois Hill. Where's Jake Oman? Oh, the rattlesnake.
Starting point is 00:02:06 The Puerto Rican rattlesnake. We came up with a new nickname for him. What was the nickname? Glad you're listening. Wow, wow Paco. Wow, wow. It was a very exciting day. Billy, motherfucking idols coming in here.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Look at Jacob just took a big deep breath in. Me and Don were dancing in the kitchen at 6.30 in the morning, embarrassing Max. He's embarrassing. It was not, it was fun. Don can do. We were dancing to Rebel Yell and then we danced to his new song.
Starting point is 00:02:33 His new song actually is, it's great. It's great. It's really great. Yeah, it's fantastic. Why are you staring at me? I'm not staring, because you're my partner. Because you're my partner on radio and I have to look at you.
Starting point is 00:02:45 What's my favorite part? Hang on, let me ask you again, let me look at Paco. What did you like about us? Paco, go on. I'm not. Oh. What? No, I like it.
Starting point is 00:02:55 I do like it. What is it? It's actually good. This is why I like, we'll talk about it with him, why I like his songs. They're poppy, punky, but then they go heavy heavy it goes heavy in the chorus. I love a heavy chorus. I like a nice He still got it. I saw him with Brian Adams. He's got it man So what prize he wants to make new music still I want to ask him about that. Well, it's uh, it's uh
Starting point is 00:03:22 I'm just happy that he kept his shit together physically Yeah, you know what I mean? Like no work It's uh... I'm just happy that he kept his shit together. Physically. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like... No work? Like if Vince Neil came in I'd be like, Oh boy. This isn't the Vince Neil I know.
Starting point is 00:03:34 This isn't the one I want. It's under there. I wanted hot for teacher Vince Neil. What'd you want? Hot for teacher. What'd you want? Dr. Feelgood. What?
Starting point is 00:03:43 Your mother? There you go. Your mother? No. I want? What? Your mother? There you go. Your mother? No. I want your mother? Nope. Huff a teacher? Uh huh.
Starting point is 00:03:51 No, that's Van Halen. Sorry. I let you get there yourself. You say I correct you. Huff a teacher. But I say you get there yourself. I paused Jacob. It was the first one you named, which was crazy.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Can I say something though? Yes. Can I say something? It's still micro-correction because you went, you put your hand up. I didn't want Jacob to correct you. He was going still micro-correction because you went, you put your hand up. I didn't want, Jacob's gonna correct you. He was gonna micro-correct you. But Jacob's micro-correction is a little. I was gonna say this.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I think it's Van Halen. Thank you. That's the way you should have done it. He doesn't think it's Van Halen. The whole world knows it's Van Halen. Paco might have known that. Paco only knows Asian music. Well actually because I think
Starting point is 00:04:23 his father is actually a cover band lead singer. Oh, absolutely. For Van Halen. For fucking Journey. Sounds great. You should tell everybody the guy from Journey is your dad. Wait, wait. Who's going to challenge that?
Starting point is 00:04:33 He's not a very good dad, I don't see him a lot. What song am I thinking of? Why am I going crazy? What song am I thinking of? Hopper Teacher? No, that's Van Halen. Correct. What am I thinking? Are you micro-correcting me?
Starting point is 00:04:45 No. A Billy Idol song? No, Motley Crue. Girls, Girls, Girls, Dr. Feel Good. Dr. Feel Good, sorry. You said Dr. Feel Good, though. I know I did. That's not what you were thinking of.
Starting point is 00:04:55 No, it wasn't. Kickstart My Heart. It was Girls, Girls, Girls. It was Girls, Girls, Girls. Yeah, that's the Vince Neil I want. Paco, look, here's your dad. It's Paco's dad. Is it Paco's dad?
Starting point is 00:05:05 Let's hear him go So good Jalecki sounds he sounds so good Baby Poco with me Papa Poco sounds fantastic Do you think you're singing to you an Asian boy? They were supposed to be Hey Paco Oh girl, I'm there God, he sounds so good
Starting point is 00:05:34 I'm forever yours Pearl Harbor Paco Have you seen Steve Perry now? He looks like a fucking coin collector He really does He sucks He does coin collector. He really does. He sucks. He does not look good. He really fucking blows. You know what I mean? That's why I'm so happy Billy Idol is Billy Idol that we know.
Starting point is 00:05:52 There is something really, there is something really, really funny though about watching a band get older, but they have to hire some new guns because like the drummer quits and the drummer's still like full dangling bandanas off of him and maybe some stage makeup and everything and everybody else in the band is just like dressed like fathers because they have to just for a reason, they're wearing New Balance shoes at a fucking concert. Look at this fucking, look at this pawn star,
Starting point is 00:06:18 look at him, stupid hair. This looks like Melissa Etheridge now. He's got the iPods in because that's how he hears. What? The technology is fantastic The drummer for Journey was one of the greatest drummers of all time the original now It's this guy who's overdoing it when the other band is I would have if I If he put a bikini on at a pool, I'd probably fuck the lead singer and I'll tell you that perhaps absolutely you would I'm sorry. I mean move past that you absolutely have sex with lead singer
Starting point is 00:06:45 Thank You Jay From behind shit. That's an Asian woman And what's kind of good is he's not overdoing it the lead singer, but he's keeping it cooler than Sean and the guy on keyboards yeah Well Steve Perry too was goofy. He had tails. No, he was the Flash for sure, but I'm saying, the thing is he got so much older
Starting point is 00:07:10 with these guys, if he dressed rock and rolling now, he'd look like a buffoon. Well, when Steve Perry was- But this little Asian guy could pull it off forever because I don't know, this guy might be 1,500 years old. When Steve Perry was the lead singer and in his peak, he still pulled his pants up way too high. He did. He had tails for a jacket.
Starting point is 00:07:26 It sneaks. And it just. I never understood the sneaks. Yeah, you got to go to Faithfully the video and give him open arms. Never mind. He didn't have a he had. He didn't have a big enough package to wear to split his balls down the middle like that. I know. You know what I mean? There's a top coat. Let me tell you this, though. Christine, get to the part.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I'm going to cry. You're going to cry. Why are you going to cry? Oh, this song's so good. Look at those jeans. Look how far up they are. I Hate it. Not to this verse right here. You don't hate this at all. No, I hate that I don't I hate his outfit check. Let me tell you something the guy could dress in a fucking full bear costume I wouldn't mind when he sings this song He's an angel. Turn it up Lou. I can can sing like feel my heart, please. I can Come on Bobby make me feel I need to hold you, I need you near I've always wanted a new home But now that you've come back tonight and today
Starting point is 00:08:39 I need you to stay Everybody in the studio, the words are on the screen. So now I come to you with open arms, nothing to hide. Believe what I say, so here I am with open arms, hoping you'll see what your love means to me. Open arms. If I could learn just that song on the piano, it would never stop. My penis would never be dry. There would never be a woman's vagina not wrapped around it. On the times that I wasn't playing the song. I would be pansexual if I could sing like that. Why wouldn't you?
Starting point is 00:09:30 I would have to fuck everybody. No, no, no. Not sing like that, you don't have to do all these things. You just gotta learn open arms by journey exclusively. And go, whenever you go into a place you go, oh you guys got a keyboard? Like, that's probably. Can I just say something real quick?
Starting point is 00:09:44 See if I fiddle around and go, let me see, is this thing even tuned? One take to hold you. Buddy. Buddy, you're here. I'm pretty sure I nailed it. You did. Jacob.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Did you not see me? I was like. Christine. I was cheering you on. Perfection. Can you put on the end of separate ways and see if you can nail that? Because I feel like he's in a groove right now.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Yeah. I agree with the cradle of love girl. I think that is the most I've ever, like a music video beat off. Yeah. She's number one. Oh yeah, no, I found this. My father had MTV, God bless him.
Starting point is 00:10:16 And it was the one thing he did for me as a child was he gave me an empty house with no supervision and this, an MTV so I could whack off to this in peace. I wanna see it. And this an MTV so I could whack off to this in peace Let's hit This dork guy that is he in a closet yes, he's peeking through the window well He didn't know when she let her in to use the phone I believe and she has to play a tape real quick. He didn't know that she was gonna fucking all of his linens My guess would be it now as an adult in your eyes, this woman's such a slut, she's probably
Starting point is 00:10:48 just queefing out of the dude's loads all over that fucking duvet. What a pig. He just wanted to do his work. He had work to do. I'm almost thinking, there's a strong chance Billy Idol never met this woman a day in his life. No, he doesn't even know who she is. She's probably 72 now.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Good question. Oh, we looked her up. You can see, you can find her. Is she still hot? It's a little child bride. Man, these lyrics are fucked up too, huh? You know what, let's not bring this one up. Hey, remember that song you were singing about fucking that child?
Starting point is 00:11:26 I used to whack off to it all the time. Is this about fucking... Well, the rebel took the little child bride. It wasn't him. He's not the rebel. What happened to his sister? Who? The little sister. His little sister? No, in the wedding song. White wedding. White wedding.
Starting point is 00:11:42 I heard that too. It was he did not want her to get married Okay, and so he wrote that song. These are all good questions We should ask but this can we might be getting fooled by Internet lore. Yeah, but that's fine So you ask is it true that that song was written about your sister who's still married to this day and whatever now Can we please look up if his sister is still alive because I don't want to bring up the sister if she died or I could Say she was like didn't your late sister wasn't she bring up the sister. If she died. Or I could say, didn't your late sister, wasn't she married up until she passed? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:09 And then you could add, that's not so bad, but if you go, your sister's still married to this day, and you go, oh, it hurts still, and then we're fucked. Because she died last week. Yeah. She could've died like two days ago and he didn't even wanna come here, but he did it.
Starting point is 00:12:21 I think he moved on quick. Was it a good impression of Bill Yaddle crying? What do we do this? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, It hurts. It hurts. That's it right there. OK. Who brought up to bring up the doors? What? We want the clip. We want the sound bite. What? He was in the doors movie.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Val passed away. Oh, yeah, he was in the doors. Oh, that's right. Yeah. He's great in the doors, too. He's great in the doors. Just his drunk friend. Just fucked up all the time.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Steve Stevens, that's the guitar player with the crazy hair, who also played Dirty Diana with Michael Jackson. Two minutes. Two minutes. What? Two minutes till he's supposed to be here. He's running late because he's a rock star. He's running late. Did you think he was gonna be here at 2.40? I don't know, Jay, I'm nervous. Can you fucking help me instead of hurting me?
Starting point is 00:13:16 I'm nervous too. I'm trying to distract you, but... I'm nervous. I don't need you being mean right now. I'm not being mean, I love you. I need... then you love me. You sound like an angel. I tried to get her to put on separate waves to keep you going. Christine, can you please put on the end of separate waves
Starting point is 00:13:29 of my journey? Do you want to find out if Bobby's got the pipes or not? Yeah. She doesn't think I have it. No, she doesn't think I have it. Just say it, Christine. You don't think I have it. Billy Idol, by the way. Dream Into It's the first full-length album in over a decade set for release on Dark Horse Records
Starting point is 00:13:44 April 25th, and his first single, Still Dancing, is out right now, which is very good. That's what you were listening to this morning with Dawn. We were listening to that, and I was really surprised. It might be one of my favorite songs from him. Yeah. I swear to God, this new song is just so Billy Idol.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I'm an Eyes Without a Face guy. It's a good song, but you have to be in the mood for that song. Oh, you don't like Eyes Without a Face, I guess. I love it. But it's not... Let's not tell him that. It's not... See, we can't do this.
Starting point is 00:14:11 We have to be a team. We are. I'm saying don't say that to him. No, but you can't say that now because what if he listens to the pre thing? What if he's in the car and he hears this? He can't. We're taped. Are you...
Starting point is 00:14:21 What if three days from now... Bobby? What if he becomes a fan of the show? Bobby can we become friends again? Yeah, what's up here? Yeah, I Also was not up. I was also operating that this was happening live right now as well. Thanks, buddy Appreciate that. Well, we gotta say to that fucking loo poo How nervous are you Bobby you nervous the way you are with Barry monolo? Yeah, I'll tell you your nerves kick into focus. Yeah this, when he comes in, watch what happens to me. Dude, I'm a fucking laser beam.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Watch. You don't have to tell me. Yeah, all I have to do is not see Jacob's face and I'm gonna be good. I wasn't nervous at all, except for the fact that we spoke to Liam from Talent not a week and a half ago. And we were like, hey, should we get on a meeting
Starting point is 00:15:00 or something with Talent? Because that would be good. And he said, no. Or did he say maybe? He or did he say maybe yeah maybe he said I don't know he said I don't know they're afraid of you but well we killed Paco it's more more than a TV to kill a Filipino it's true yeah he's trying to he's mad at himself he's not staying in touch with his father from journey more yeah he's flogging himself with a TV. What were we just saying?
Starting point is 00:15:26 Look at me, look at my finger, follow my finger, right here. Talent, you got, they're afraid of you. Liam, talent. Liam is afraid of us at Talent Department. Liam says- Christine's better at focusing you than me. Thank you. Liam, talent, go. She smokes the same pot.
Starting point is 00:15:44 She knows it does. I mean, wow. It's the word talent. I got you, okay, thank you. Liam, talent, go. She smokes the same pot. She knows it does. I mean, wow. It's the word talent. I got you, dude. Right away I started going, I have talent, obviously I have talent. What about our talent? Oh, the talent department.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Liam. Liam. Liam said they're all afraid of us, and he said more than the talent department is afraid of us. He said that the PR people for the celebrities are like scared of us, he said that the PR people for the celebrities are scared of us. Because I guess once in a while we'll fall in love
Starting point is 00:16:11 and try to leave our significant others as we all get fooled by AI, an AI dance or two girl. No, no, no, that's a you. I didn't wanna look at it, we didn't believe it, and then it was too, it could be true, it's a you. You guys, guys, we all stood up off microphone. We all stood up and pointed at our boners, like, you know, what's happening?
Starting point is 00:16:28 Nobody had a boner. No, you guys all did. No, this is nuts. We are not taking the fall for your AI down-sum. You're taking the fall? We're all, we all got fooled. We all got bamboozled. You know, I really was mad at myself.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I was thinking about it on the way to work today. I was like, how did I not even think, like, AI? Oh, I think you gotta say that. I live with a guy who'd fucking retarded Hot Shack. How do I not think this is fake? The hottest retarded. I mean, you're right. You gave your credit card twice. I gave my credit card once.
Starting point is 00:16:54 I'm not just going around. But you tried to give it twice. I attempted twice. I'm not posting up outside of yellow, small little buses waiting for kids to come out. Jeez. It's a valid point. She had all her teeth.
Starting point is 00:17:04 You're right. Damn, I didn't want Christine really necessarily to know that she has one bodacious Down syndrome girl away from losing everything she has. I feel like that's going to hit me now. I think that's going to come back on me now. Oh, please, to the end of the song so Bobby can show you. You still got it?
Starting point is 00:17:22 Yeah, I still got it. Not the end end. to the end of the song so Bobby can show you he's still got it. Yeah I still got it. Not the end end. This is a good part. Off the background. You deserve to, you know, have to love you Are we watching when I separate? None of these instruments are plugged in by the way. It's the ugliest bass player on planet Earth by the way. You look like Craterface from Grease 1. Thank you Jacob.
Starting point is 00:18:14 They all look like jerk-offs when they were filming this. They really do. Okay Bobby. Oh We'll find you break those chains that bind you Will remind you Loud and loud and whoops If she ever hurts you True love won't desert you You know I still love you Alright Come here, come here
Starting point is 00:19:01 Love I'm a am you got it I got it god I wish it Christine it goes bring it up bring up Polly bring up Polly Z hitting them what if he's good what if they what if journey they lose the Filipino guy and then they hear this and then they bring me in? Oh, I thought just arbitrarily it'd bring him Paco. Well, no. Who's this?
Starting point is 00:19:34 This is Pauly. So when I was on the show Z Rock, this is the lead singer of that band. He does vocal exercises now. You're as good as him. He's good. now here's a marky marksman wow he's a really take a
Starting point is 00:20:02 james went who's better me or him I Mean you sang with more passion. Thanks what matters matters matters matters matters matters. Oh, no. He's got Here you go sounds just like you do we should put next to each other Real quick he's got a better microphone that's a Newman Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo The feeling I get being on the show and being a part of the Sirius XM family, but when somebody bigs in the area, everybody's out. And I feel like I'm at a barbecue, but I'm a fifth cousin, where we weren't invited by the main family,
Starting point is 00:20:59 we were invited by maybe a friend of a friend at a party where we're just kind of hanging out with each other like me and me, you and Bennington. We're just kind of in the corner going, hey, man, what's going on? Like we're afraid to get snacks. I don't know. They respect Bennington and they give them good guests.
Starting point is 00:21:16 They have no respect for us. Why? They said they're afraid of us because once in a while we are admittedly not smart enough to get fooled every now and again by a fucking super hot AI bodacious Down syndrome. That was you, you're afraid of you. No, it might be more the Brett Michaels incident. I blame Dan, I blame Dan.
Starting point is 00:21:38 It's probably more of a Dan thing. Once it was in here, it was glorious. It's just the- Brett Michaels? Maybe one of our best interviews. The trashing before. I just? Maybe one of our best interviews. I just didn't know he was gonna come in and we made a lot of fun of his hair
Starting point is 00:21:47 and bandana and hair again. And then we circled back around to his hair. And then we straight up called him a liar, at least I did when he left saying that he's not really gonna take me to play baseball on the city field with the Mets. He promised Lou a catch in the outfield at city field. I mean, he promised, he made some over the top promise.
Starting point is 00:22:03 100% would've happened. Pre and post insecurity is what kills us. in the outfield at City Field. I mean, he promised, he made some over the top promise. 100% would've happened. It would've happened. Pre and post insecurity is what kills us. It is, you're right, Jacob, that's what takes us down. It almost makes you regret not just pulling that thing off his head and throwing it on the ground. I mean, while I was here, we should just went at him completely.
Starting point is 00:22:18 I mean, you should just went, lit the fucking house on fire. Hey, what's Oscar De La Hoya's niece's pussy like? Like, remember that shit when he fucked Daisy De La Hoya? What a fucking pull. Well, she was the Daisy of love. She ended up having her own show. That's her last name's De La Hoya.
Starting point is 00:22:35 It's Oscar De La Hoya's niece or something. Wasn't New York on that show too? She was from Flavor Flav. Oh yeah, but didn't she go on? No, she went on another show, I forget what it was. I think she ended up on The Apprentice at one point. New it was I think she ended up on the apprentice at one point New York. She's bad. She did this thing recently She's I fucking love New York. She's like lamb chop. That's right. She did she was like lamb chop with his fucking goofy eyes Yeah, New York. She had a fucking crazy body for a minute, but she was a flavor flavor eject. Yeah
Starting point is 00:23:00 Much like Brigitte Nielsen. Oh Yeah, jeet Her name was Tiffany something. Tiffany Pollard. What a name though, New York. I'm gonna change my name to New York. Well you can't do that, Flavor Flav has to name you. Okay, well you name me, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I'm thinking, I'm gonna get something good. Don't look at my tits when you're thinking about something. Look at your face. Look at your face. What's up? The... Let me give you some looks. Fuck. Uh, I mean, you've got Godfather vibes?
Starting point is 00:23:36 Uh, okay. All right. I see what you're doing. Hmm. Cigar Bob? What? No. What? What the fuck? Well, that's my name. Don't add my name. I want a whole new name. Mmm cigar Bob what no That's my name don't have my name I want a whole new name also I'm different there. Yeah like Turks. Okay. I got it. Okay Oh, I got it. I've already got a Turks in case I got it. What tiny house?
Starting point is 00:23:59 Your tiny house Why cuz I know't know, tiny. Yeah, but you're a house. I like house better. Just house. Yeah, house. What's up, house? When he comes in, introduce me as house.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Bobby, can you commit for the entire time he's in here to being house? Dude, don't call me. What did you call me? House. What's up, dude? Can you? Yeah. What's up? House. Yeah. I'm? Can you? Yeah. What's up?
Starting point is 00:24:25 House. Yeah. I'm gonna try to keep up with that. Christine doesn't like it. Why don't you like it? Christine, her production side is like, you don't want that. You want him to know you.
Starting point is 00:24:34 You need the bump, Bobby. Bobby, you need the bump. I'm big. Don't let it, don't. Do you just look at her and you're like the water boy and you see Dawn's face the only way you? I do. I see Dawn's face.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Don't do it, Bobby. Get the bump, idiot. Don't do it, you fucking idiot. You're not a house. Tiny house. You used to be a house, you're fat as a house, but you're not house. That's what I'm saying, now you're tiny house.
Starting point is 00:24:56 That's the play on the name. I don't want, I like tiny. I'll take tiny. That's weird. How about middle? I've never heard that before in a Guy Ritchie movie. Give up it a familiar my middle. He's a middle man. He's a male. Oh Why do you name a middle story on the cry he loves can't a brittle he likes can't a brittle No, oh, I can tell him that I sang rebel yell live on television
Starting point is 00:25:23 Oh on Comedy Central. Do we have that somewhere? That's great. That's awesome. Be here in nine minutes. Nine minutes. Dougie Fresh, you're on. What are you, texting with him personally? No, with the talent fellow. Talent, oh shit, my phone's on. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Can you ask talent? Oh, it's Mike Feeney. Do you have, do you have slot machine jackpot happening when Mike Feeney calls? I have, do you have slot machine jackpot hacking when Mike Feeney calls? I have, no. What the hell does that mean? I have, I changed my ringer to something more soothing because it was annoying me.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Okay. I like that one. Do do do do. Why don't you just leave it on vibrate like the rest of the world? Because I like answering the phone, unlike you. But you answered it if it's in a place where you can feel it vibrating.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I don't, I just shut it off. When I'm on the air dude, I'm a professional. I don't need it on. It was on by accident. It goes off every single day. Yeah, because I am becoming a professional. Ah. I'm learning.
Starting point is 00:26:12 We're learning. Yeah, I'm learning, dude. I mean, talking about micro, fucking edit, whatever the fuck it is. Right? I saw that. Yeah, that was really. I mean, gee, you don't even know when you're doing it.
Starting point is 00:26:23 What? Your micro. Goes off every day. Goes off every day. Fucking Jacob. Hey, really, well. Jacob's trying to divide and conquer. No, we're not, we're trying to fucking help you
Starting point is 00:26:33 out of your fucking micro shit. Jacob's trying to divide and conquer us. Do not let him divide us and conquer us. I will not, Jay. I will not, that face couldn't divide anything. Do not allow that face to conquer or divide. That fucking face could ruin Christmas. Oh, that's right. Billy Adams is up for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Starting point is 00:26:51 this year. Didn't he get in? I don't think they picked it officially yet. Just the nominees are out right now. Say that we're on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame voting committee. So you want to start the relationship with lies. Well, you're going to call me House.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Well, you want to be called House now. So it's technically not a lie. You want to be House. If I wanted a name, I don't know if house is the name. Christine didn't like it. I will go house, but I'll let him know it's short for tiny house. I got it's house.
Starting point is 00:27:14 It's short for tiny house. We just call him house. How about lens, Kelly? Lens? Yeah, lens. No? Oh! Bobby strings.
Starting point is 00:27:23 No, too much. It's not real. I know it's not real. None of it's real. No, too late. It's not real. I know it's not real, none of it's real. My real nickname is Shades Kelly that I gave myself in Jewish camp when I had a bunch of sunglasses and a fucking tape cassette briefcase. Are you, you didn't have to tell people that.
Starting point is 00:27:36 You just did. It's already out there, dude. I got the tape cassette briefcase and I took all the sunglasses I had from gas stations, I had like 15 pairs, and then I graffitied shades inside on the flip. So when I would go in every morning, I'd open up my little briefcase and take... And realize that you're shades.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I was Shades Kelly, and I would take out my little sunglasses for the day, because I'd switch it up every day. And I would put them on, and everybody... You're past that. You're not Shades Kelly anymore. You're something else. Okay. You've grown.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I'm going to think of something English. Because they always do like, China. You're my China. What's that mean mate plate China plate mate? What the what are you talking about today? Oh, sorry Yeah, all right, yes, it's off the screen Okay You have to stop the screen. Get it off the screen. Not now. Not now. We're professionals. We're professionals. Get it off. We're professionals. Okay. Is it coming in?
Starting point is 00:28:29 No. It might be a fossil. All right. Jacob just saw people in the hallway and got everyone to start running around. Well, not one guy actually peeked in the guy that always... Did he have a snarl lip? It wasn't Billy. Do you think he wants to know, one time I filmed a girl doing karaoke with her Snatch, and I had to do a Billy
Starting point is 00:28:46 Idol song because a pussy, if you pull on one side of it, looks like it's going up like that. You know what, I think you would know that. I actually would love for you to tell that story. We'll never get anybody else. There you go. Ma, ma, ma. But that's fine.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, dude, that's fucking great. Please tell that. The girl used to work at a comedy club. But not when you worked at. You didn't like this place. Which one? Comic strip.
Starting point is 00:29:12 I love the comic strip. It didn't like you. I was there, they told me. You were banned. Buddy, first of all, they told me to my face. When I tried to get in, they just didn't let me in. Oh, they told me too. After I was already in, they told me that I wasn't allowed back ever again.
Starting point is 00:29:25 The guy, the manager there, reached out to me recently. Yeah, I remember when What's His Name came up to me with his fucking leather glove, missing fingers, because he had some weird disease where his body was falling off. One of the owners slash long time booker of the comic strip had scleroderma, and so he was also very, very mean to you,
Starting point is 00:29:44 and then once in a while, while he was pointing you with one of his crooked fingers, it would just fall off. All right. Buddy, it's so crazy. He would just show up with a glove, but, like, he'd have to tape the pinky and the index finger down, because it was missing. Yeah, yeah, it was just like three of them were flaps. There was two fingers,
Starting point is 00:29:59 and the other things were just flaps, empty flaps. It's crazy. And they'd be like, you were okay, but not good enough for us And they'd be like, you were okay, but not good enough for us. I'd be like, all right, you fucking Bond villain, leave me alone. His chick friend I'm dead in the chair continued to do comedy and it's just a basket case.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, what was her name? She was in- I know her name. She was in- VH, dude, Get Your Wings. No, great movie.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Ghost, what was that ghost, uh... She was in something? What's the movie, the ghost kill... The Samurai movie, uh, with, uh... Fuck, man. Ghost? Samurai. Ghostbusters.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Ghost dog? Ghost dog, ghostbusters. Who the fuck is that asshole? Yeah, she was in Ghostbusters. She was Slimer. Ghost dog. She was in Ghost Dog. She asshole. Yeah, she was in Ghost Busters. She was Slimer. Ghost dog, she was in Ghost Dog. She was? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Who'd she play in Ghost Dog? She played the cop. Remember the cop that pulled them over? Did she? Yeah, dude, great movie. Interesting, oh, come on, you know I love that. Oh yeah, she was the cop in Ghost Dog. Yeah, she was the cop in Ghost Dog.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Yeah, Lucian, look at him, dude. What a name, Lucian, what an evil club owner name. He was a failed ballerino What ballerino what's a ballerino? That's what I call a male ballerino. Hey, was he a ballerino? Was he a dancer? I think so Wow Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's got the body. He was only 57 He was the most powerful man one of the most powerful men in comedy at one point Well being more that badge with a lot of pride and very little personality.
Starting point is 00:31:29 He was a weird guy. And then God took his fingers because he was a piece of shit. He told me he passed me because, and worked me late nights because that's where he would normally put a Hispanic or Negro comedian, and but I have that energy. He told me he wouldn't pass me.
Starting point is 00:31:46 That's what he said when I was thanking, I stopped him to thank him for working me so much. And he goes, at that point in the evening I'd usually put up a Negro actor, a Hispanic actor, but you seem to have that energy. I was like, okay, so thank you. I thought you were just gonna say you're welcome, or we're happy to have
Starting point is 00:32:05 you here so funny you're gonna be able to say that now if they beat around the bush on that one of a Negro guys fingers are falling off from a fucking Civil War disease when was when did you say Negro what was that the 70s no it was the early arts really late that's fucking nuts that he said that. But he was, uh... Does it say something about him being a ballerino? I'm looking, I haven't seen that. He actually told me, he comes up to me and he goes, um, you did great,
Starting point is 00:32:33 but we have a lot of Spanish comedians. I went, I'm Irish. He goes, we have a lot of those, too. I was like, all right, dude, whatever the fuck are you talking about? Sometimes people have stories that he would go in there and he would, like, have a snack, like too. I was like, all right, dude, whatever the fuck are you talking about? Sometimes people have stories that he would go in there and he would have a snack with his gloved fingers, and he was just falling apart.
Starting point is 00:32:51 So one of his supporters was eating soup while he was doing their thing, and he was spitting soup on their shirt while he's telling them that they're not passed and why. He looked at... I'll tell you this about Esti. Esti just goes, okay, thank you, we'll let you know. When that happens, you're not getting booked. Or you looked in the hallway and she wasn't there. You'd see her shadow, she had a chair,
Starting point is 00:33:15 a little stool she'd sit in. Yes, and that is your moves. You'd see the outline, her silhouette of her, and the whole time. You wouldn't see her laughing, because it was dark enough where you couldn't see anything, but then if you looked up and the silhouette was gone, you failed.
Starting point is 00:33:27 So, but if you had the sack still, at that point you're supposed to know. If you still had the balls to go up to her afterwards and be like, huh? She'll say, we'll let you know. And then that's just her way of casting you off because if you pass, she gives you the email immediately or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:33:41 She waits for you, she goes, great job, email me, we put you on the thing. Right there. And. That's how you find out if you're uh, yeah, if you're passed down there That's how I got passed right there waiting for the comic strip Lucien wanted to bring you in to explain you for 15 minutes Before he didn't pass you why you're not passed But but you would I would like you would correct him and he would just come up with another excuse Like like when he said I have a lot of Puerto Ricans. I'm like, but I'm Irish. He's like, I have a lot of those too It's like dude, you're not passing me no matter what the fuck I said Remember Starla was his sidekick. Yes. She came up to me. She had to pass you first. She came up to me one night
Starting point is 00:34:18 She goes you did I killed I fucking murdered and I don't say that but I you know what I mean? You know when you murder murdered she come up she goes. I mean little the bartender was like dude. That was insane She comes up. She goes you did good good. She was about to say great. She went you did good good And I was like I'm out fuck off. I can't I don't know what to do with you people. That's crazy I'm mentally ill, you know Lucian from the comic show his the last I mean weeks before he died He I called him up to ask him. I was like hey, I noticed I haven't gotten spots in a few weeks at that point I was pretty staple there when I was in town. Yeah, which was always I Was pretty regular there when I put it and then one day he just stopped
Starting point is 00:35:00 He's never forget the names. He goes I called him up to be like, hey, we should know just check I don't know if a lot of people in town or something, but I was having to work there in a couple weeks to make sure everything's okay, or if I'm unaware of something. And he was like, yeah. He goes, I think we're gonna be moving on from you. He goes, the industry doesn't seem
Starting point is 00:35:20 very interested in you at all. And I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I just started doing a TV show, Z-Rock. I was like, I just started, it was like 2008. I was like, I just started doing a TV show. Somebody goes, no, but I mean like, the festivals and everything. And I go, I did New Faces and I'm going to the Nasty Show this year, like in Montreal.
Starting point is 00:35:44 And he goes, still, I have to make way, he goes, still, I have to make way for comics, like, and he gave me names. Dana Doot and Marina Franklin, those were two people we had to make way for. Skyrocketed to fame about it right after. Yeah, dude, he would, whatever, he just wanted, whatever you had, you could solve the puzzle that he said,
Starting point is 00:36:02 and he would just make another puzzle right in front of you. It was like Hellraiser Cube. It was fucking crazy. Whatever you had, you could solve the puzzle that he said and he would just make another puzzle right in front of you. It was like Hellraiser Cube. It was fucking crazy. But literally the day he died, Greg Judge was the manager over there still and Greg Judge called me up right away and he goes, please start putting your avails back in.
Starting point is 00:36:16 He's like, I have no idea what that was so crazy. I was so regular there, it was insane. And just one day he was like, nah, no one cares about you. I'm like, but I do good. I would tell you if I was like, I struggle at this club all the time. I was very comfortable there. As soon as he died, they called me up,
Starting point is 00:36:31 they're like, dude, we'd love for you to start coming up here. I went, no. I believe you. I don't know. I get fucking 19 spots at The Cellar. Shit, I wanted to go. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:36:41 That stage, when it was popping, was one of the best rooms. It was all right, but I hated getting onstage as a fat guy, getting onstage. It's like a tiny little hallway that you had to squeeze by ketchup, like Costco ketchups and fucking alcohol. Hey!
Starting point is 00:36:58 Oh, I guess he's here, everybody. Hey, what's up? Here we go, everybody. We're gonna have you over there. Right over here, buddy. How are you? What's up, Billy? Nice? Here we go everybody. We're gonna have you over there. Right over here buddy, how are you? What's up Billy? Nice to meet you buddy. I'm Robert, man.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Very excited to have you in the studio everybody. Once again, the first full length album in over a decade. Coming out April 25th on Dark Horse Records is called Dream Into It, The Legend. Billy Idol's with us. What's happening man, how are you? Very well thank you, great. Great to meet you man. I'm very excited Great. Yeah, I mean you looked excited to meet me, too I'm happy to be in New York and I'm enjoying yeah now you live in LA right you live there. How long Angeles?
Starting point is 00:37:37 Yes, well 30 something years. Yeah. Yeah 30 you were before that you were East Village or not East West Village Yeah, West West for the longest time six Six years I lived in New York. Yeah, 81 to 87. You're right down by the comedy Where did you live in West Village? Yes, 81. I just Sheridan Square. Okay. Yeah, Barrow Street all around there. Yeah, did you like New York? You seem like a New York guy. I love New York. Yeah, it's fantastic Especially at that time period was an incredible time to be in New York. Anything went, the city was bankrupt, there's people having clubs in their apartments.
Starting point is 00:38:12 And then they would turn into an after hours club. It was like, wow, you watched this. Everything grow exponentially. I remember that, when I first moved to the head, you'd go to somebody's apartment at like three in the morning, and they'd make it into a club. and you'd just hang out in somebody's apartment making out with some chick you just met.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Yeah, the Continental Club started that way. It was like, it was in the sky, Harvey's, you know, he had little ticky glasses, and then it turned into this massive after-hours club. The Continental particularly became, I did a show there before it closed with John, oh what's his name from the Cro-Mags, lead singer of the Cro-Mags, put a comedy show on there.
Starting point is 00:38:50 We're stand up comedians, we're not rock and roll guys. No. You're looking at his mittens and you're like, he's a singer. I think it goes hand in hand with rock and roll comedy. But that place was, Continental was famous, you're already not drinking anymore Bobby, but Continental was the, wasn't it 10 shots of anything,
Starting point is 00:39:03 or five shots of anything for $10 really that went well into New York being very expensive they just get that way I put just probably why it went under ultimately but what a deal buddy I just want to say I look I've been a fan I'm I was born in 1970 you I was a big fan of yours my whole life and I'm just happy and I was telling Jay that you kept your shit together. There's nothing like when you meet somebody later in life and they're just, you know, you look like my Aunt Peggy. You still look the way you looked back in the 70s and 80s.
Starting point is 00:39:35 You still look fantastic. Your hair is, I wanted your hair so bad, and I couldn't because I had colic, so my hair, I couldn't get the spiked hair, I look like a jackass and my my hair was weird your hair is the best your look is the best and you still look fantastic dude. Billy take a compliment baby. You must feel great right? I do feel great I mean I really like this music we're making I mean we didn't try to redesign my music or anything. It's playing to our strengths.
Starting point is 00:40:08 I mean, my guitar is Steve Stevens. He's from New York, far Rockaway, in fact. He's playing better than ever. So I think we've come up with an album that's super fresh. And that was kind of the MO. We've, what is it, we want to do a nine song album and we want to make every song is killer, you know, if nine song album and you want to make every song is killer, you know, every song is strong.
Starting point is 00:40:26 It's unbelievable, the song, why I love your song that I was telling Jay is because it goes into that chorus as heavy. You kind of go poppy punk and it's a fast beat and it's awesome and then all of a sudden the chorus is just rocking, your voice comes in and this new song is great because it's kind of like wrapping up your career, like in the, you know, Dancing With Myself, right?
Starting point is 00:40:49 Which was from your first band, Generation X, right? Yeah, it was one of the last things we did, yeah. Right. And I kind of took that into my solo career, really. Were they mad that you took that, that was your first hit, right? Yeah, it was one of where it was more like, it was a big video,
Starting point is 00:41:04 because that's funny enough, Dancing With the Self has never really been a hit hit song in terms of Billboard or something you know but it's been Well Beavis and Butthead everybody knows it. That was a big push from Beavis and Butthead revived it almost at one point. Exactly and then more recently Tom Hanks you know said it was the coronavirus anthem. So you kind of go, this song, I don't know, it's got all these legs. It's got legs. It keeps going. Was Steve Stevens with you from the beginning of your solo career?
Starting point is 00:41:34 Yeah, the manager I had, Bill O'Coin, he managed Kiss, but he was very, you know, always had his eye on what was happening in New York. And he knew Steve Stevens. So he kind of put us together in terms of, well he got us to meet and once I met Steve and I saw what Steve could do, I just went, I can make the most eclectic albums I wanna make cause this guy, anything I wanna do, he can do it.
Starting point is 00:41:58 You know, cause he can play, you know, he can play flamenco guitar, he can play, you know, hard rock guitar. Your guys look also complimented each other so much that I almost wonder, was that, did he keep up with your, did he kinda come in and pick like the Billy Idol kinda look to go with? Or was he always kinda as a,
Starting point is 00:42:15 because of the hair, it was always that crazy hair. That was so, that's how I recognized him. When I was younger and got Moonwalker, the Michael Jackson tape, he guitar I believe for dirty Diana It's right. Yeah, did do dirty Diana with Fantasticly to yeah, he's always had his own look which is you know, so the two of us together Both can we can both take the audience that and I was looking for that too I wanted somebody else I could work with I've always loved the guitar singer combination
Starting point is 00:42:42 You want the other guy to be able to take the audience so that you can sit back for a little bit and then you take the audience, like a double pronged attack. You guys are still amazing. That's what me and Jay do, by the way. Double pronged attack. We're double pronged attacks.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Me and Christine saw when you were co-headlining with Brian Adams with Jones Beach a couple years back and it was fantastic. What a night. You guys, you still have a blast performing on stage. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. I mean it's a high you can get every night when you play. That's the great set of drugs and things. It's going to fade.
Starting point is 00:43:16 But the rock and roll experience, playing in a group, once that little, it's like a sports guy, like in the fast, you know, an Aston Martin or something, you know, it's the most souped up thing in the world, and you're just surfing on top of this wave of sound, and you can't help but get, by the end of the night, you're like a little high, you know, from the noise, and the exertion, and the audience being so into it. It is still really exciting, and it's amazing. I could never have thought that I'd be saying this,
Starting point is 00:43:44 nearly, because next year would be 50 years I've been doing the only thing that changes is like the after show rituals there's no more cocaine and girls and others like a physical therapist making sure your shoulders right you have to get a nice pack a little bit of a difference that I got to've got to say. Right to bed. Well, it's funny, I got to watch a band, I got to watch Seeing the Band Corn a million years ago. When I went, when they were still young, they had a room called Chicken Heads, that was, they just put girls that wanted
Starting point is 00:44:13 to come backstage in that room. And then, going to see them, I was trying to see this, I was trying to see the lead singer after the show, four years ago or something, and he was like, I'm sorry I missed you, man. He goes, I have to go in the massage chair, like right after the show, or ago or something, and he was like, I'm sorry I missed you man. He goes, I have to go in the massage chair like right after the show, or I can't perform tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:44:29 And you're like, damn. I'm like, where's the chicken heads room? That was 20 years ago. After our shows, me and him go back to his room, we lie on our stomachs and watch YouTube videos. It's not wrong. He calls it tummy time. Is that the most interesting thing,
Starting point is 00:44:44 I think comics and musicians on a probably grander scale feel this, the change of like, in some point of time, like an hour separation from a stadium of people like adoring you and then like figuring out what you're gonna eat at the hotel in like socks and like you know, just like shorts, like what does this place have? Microwave popcorn, do I even have a microwave in my room?
Starting point is 00:45:05 Just like the loneliness of being in a hotel or something after something that grand. Yeah, but we move on really fast. We don't really stay places very long. And you know, next minute you're moving and you're on to the next place. And you know, if you're really enjoying the music you're making and that with
Starting point is 00:45:25 like I say a killer band that I've got it just flows too. We try to make the travel as simple as possible and as fluid so that you know. Are you with Joan Jett too right? On this tour yes we're doing yeah. That's great you guys have been friends for while, right? Well, I've known Jones since 1978 I met her after a germs and dead Kennedy's concert whiskey a go-go and it was me Joan and 20 other girls Who all had virtually nothing on so it was rather exciting Did you ever have in your travels a terrible bus mate someone you just couldn't take anymore there's always something like that because there used to be a fight over the air conditioning
Starting point is 00:46:07 because one person wants it like a meat locker and then for us singers it's terrible to be in terribly cold air so there'd be a fight between like, so somebody wakes up and makes it super cold and somebody wakes up and makes it really fucking hot and it goes on like that. We know how that is in the studio. Yeah. He usually has, Billy. I'm like you, the singer.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Billy, he usually has a blanket. But he didn't put it on today because you were coming in. I was thinking. And Jacob doesn't sing for the record. He's not a singer. You didn't have to bring up any of this. Jacob's a bit of a drummer.
Starting point is 00:46:42 I have, it's so crazy, you know, when someone meets you like we do, like a zillion questions from a zillion years to ask you. One, because we were watching the video again, I've told the story many times, my first music video masturbation to Rock the Cradle of Love by Billy Idol. And realizing when we were watching the video again today, that strong chance, you never even met that girl. I don't know if you guys were watching the video again today that strong chance, you never even met that girl. I don't know if you guys were in the same place ever. Oh no, no, I actually took her out for dinner and everything.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Nice, nice. But unfortunately she wore sandals or something and I think it was a definite you're not getting it right. So I went okay. She dressed, she just dressed up. Yeah, she deliberately like no, I'm an actress, I'm not just, you know, it's okay darling, I get it. But she was great, she was fantastic. I had a broken leg, so it was very difficult. We didn't know how we were gonna make a video for that song
Starting point is 00:47:29 because I couldn't move. I had a cast up to my thigh. And David Fincher was a video director in those days and he had a concept for where I could just be a picture on the wall and he had that whole idea that she would be trying to play the song and the guy next door had all those artworks and she was going to turn his sound, her sound system are broken. He's going to turn, she's going to turn it up really loud and all the artworks start falling apart and
Starting point is 00:47:58 everything. So he had that idea and he said, Billy, you just have to be a picture on the wall. I can shoot you from the waist up. You don't have to move. And I went, great. I wonder this guy is a genius director. That was back in the day where you had to do the video was a big part of the song becoming a hit. It had to have a story.
Starting point is 00:48:17 People had to be talking about the video. Yeah, a lot of the videos I'd made, I mean, you had to set the pace. I had to, you know, I wanted to impress upon people, there's a style to a Billy Idol video. So I definitely, I made the running usually, but in this case, I was a little bit flawed. I didn't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:48:35 You know, I don't know, how am I gonna do this? I can't move, I can't really be the usual Billy, you know? So, but he had that great idea. So. Was it true that you were supposed to be in Terminator 2? I was, I did, you did do a, you know, so, but he had that great idea. Was it true that you were supposed to be in Terminator 2? I was, I did do a, you know, James Cameron shot, he does the, you know, the reading or whatever, called audition, I suppose, I'm not quite sure what you call it. And yeah, I did some of the lines from the movie, but I'd had that motorcycle accident,
Starting point is 00:49:03 I couldn't run, and he said, there's a point in the movie where you're going to have motorcycle accident and I couldn't run and he said, there's a point in the movie where you're gonna have to be able to run, can you run? And I said, I can't really, I've got this terrible limp. And that's what kind of, but there's one point in the, you know, in his tape, audition tape, where he says, I've got the police helmet on and the shades and the gun in my hand and he goes,
Starting point is 00:49:24 the T-Determinator 2 comes to life, the T-1000 comes to life, you know. And I was like, fuck, I was going to get to throw Arnold through a wall, damn it. Don't forget all the money. Yeah. It's a lot of money. It would be great, too. The idea of being in a killer science fiction movie would have been incredible, you know.
Starting point is 00:49:44 You've had acting roles before, and we were talking before we just lost Val Kilmer and you were famously in The Doors movie, which is one of my, that's the movie, I think a lot of people around my age had this happen. The movie's what got me into the band. And then I got very into the band. Were you a big fan of The Doors going into the movie?
Starting point is 00:50:00 Yeah, it was. I was a fan of Jim Morrison, especially when I came to America. I was, you know, the music that was in the charts was radically different from what was in the charts in England and a lot of those bands, they were kind of like hard rock bands that had gone pop sort of thing. They were singing like these very high harmonies. So I was going, I don't really sing like that. I mean how's anybody in America gonna be in... And I started to think about,
Starting point is 00:50:24 wait a minute, they like Frank Sinatra and then they like Jim Morrison. And so I thought, you know, okay, I love Jim. So I love The Doors and, you know, we did LA Woman as a song. We used to do that as a cover and I put out a single of LA Woman. So I love The Doors a lot. And then, yeah, the chance to get in the movie was I was gonna be Michael Madsen's part, but the motorcycle accident, you know Derailed that time Wow. I think your best your best part in a movie Wedding singer, I mean come on The fact that you came out of I mean you stole the movie at the end I mean it was the greatest it was fantastic
Starting point is 00:51:04 How crazy was it that you looked so, people hadn't maybe seen you in a while, they didn't think it was you. People thought it was someone playing because it looked too young almost to be, I remember when I first saw it I was like, no. That's not, is it actually Billy? That was crazy.
Starting point is 00:51:18 But that'd be fun to do, of course. Well, it's really good fun between doing the takes and in his trailer, a lot of you guys, comedians, Sam Kinnesson was a great guitar player, and so Adam Sandler, he loves playing the guitar and stuff. So in his trailer, he had bass, drums, and guitar setups. So we were jamming in between. Really?
Starting point is 00:51:40 That's crazy. In between the setups, we were jamming. We were talking before you came in, because your name is... I mean, first of all, it's perfect. Design-wise, Billy Idol, right? It's a great name. Billy... What a name. I believe you got that because of a teacher.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Was insulting you trying to insult you or something? Yeah, I got like five out of ten or something on a, you know, end-of-the-year exam or something. I was so hopeless at five out of 10 or something on a end of the year exam or something. I was so hopeless at chemistry, I was useless at it, I hated it. So yeah, this teacher was really upset with me. So in those days, teachers wrote in longhand cursive, they wrote joined up writing.
Starting point is 00:52:18 But he wrote in capital letters, William is IDLE. So later on when I was sort of gonna be in a punk rock group, I started off calling myself Billy IDLE. So you know later on when I was sort of gonna be in a punk rock group I started off calling myself Billy IDLE you know. And then there's this lady Caroline Coon she was gonna do a story on the Sex Pistol fans. I was in this bunch of kids who were like Sex Pistol fans, the Bromley contingent we were called and she said well you know I'm gonna do this article about the Sex Pistols, you being a fan of the Pistols, what do you know, I'm going to do this article about the sex pistols. You'd be being a fan of the pistols. What do you want to be called in it?
Starting point is 00:52:48 And I said, well, I've been Billy I. D. Ellie. She said, well, what about Eric Idle is Eric Idle of Monty Python? He's that's his real name. And I went, oh, so she said, you've got 24 hours. Tell me what you know tomorrow. Call me up and tell me what you want to be. So I thought about it for 24 hours. And there was this guy in the dolls and New York dolls, Billy Doll, you know, tomorrow, call me up and tell me what you want to be. So I thought about it for 24 hours. And there was this guy in the dolls, the New York dolls, Billy doll, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:09 and I thought maybe I could be Billy Idol. Anyway, this is nuts. I thought I'm going to do it. And that's your whole life. And it actually made even more sense for the 80s because then you had Prince Madonna and Billy Idol. It was like, this is crazy, but how did I dream myself into this? I don't know, but it was working.
Starting point is 00:53:29 I was thinking for me, Jay was gonna call me House. That was gonna be my name, what do you think? That was a nickname. It's a nickname, House. No, okay, we'll work on it. I was gonna make it Tiny House. Tiny House, we're working on it. It's a working process.
Starting point is 00:53:42 It's a working process as well. Yeah, because this new mean, this new song, it's probably one of my, and I'm not just saying this, it's one of my favorite songs of yours. Great. And you know, you're always nervous when a, someone you love comes out with a new song or a new album, you're like,
Starting point is 00:53:53 oh, come on, please be good, please be good. I put it on this morning, and me and my wife, because my wife's a fan, we were dancing in the kitchen to it, my son was embarrassed. But it is such a great you song, because it's probably one of my favorite songs that you've done out of all of them. kitchen to it, my son was embarrassed, but it is such a great you song because it's probably one of my favorite songs that you've done out of all of them.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I mean that was what we hoped and that's what we were doing. The MO for the album was we've got to make an album that somehow we play to our strengths. We don't redesign what we do. We don't try and compete with the modern world because it's just would be ridiculous. But if we can make a nine-song album that every song on it is killer and fresh. It's gotta sound fresh or we're not putting anything out. And I think we came up with it. In fact, you know what you're saying is that's music to my ears. It really is because you actually brought punk into the mainstream like so everybody can
Starting point is 00:54:43 enjoy punk. Well that's what I was gonna ask, was punk, before you got into music officially, that's what you were a fan of exclusively? Because I always thought it's interesting to see, like in Alice Cooper, for everyone knows what Alice Cooper is, there's pictures of his bands, back in the day they were more Beatles influenced, so everybody's wearing suits and bowl cuts.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Oh, I expect so, yeah. And these iterations of people, or did you, right from the gate, you were like, I wanna be, follow this kind of punk track. Well, we were just into that scene. We've been kind of gradually, you know, the Velvet Underground, David Bowie, Iggy Pop. We were watching The Stooges and, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:14 watching everything going on in America. And then the scene at CBGBs, we were watching that and dreaming into that, if you know what I mean. And, you know, it was this tiny scene, but that's what was really you know making us excited about rock and roll music and then we wanted that in England we wanted to create a scene like CBGB's in London and that's kind of what we started and we found out there was this band already the Sex
Starting point is 00:55:38 Pistols who were kind of already doing that idea they'd you know Malcolm McLaren who managed them had already managed the New York Dolls, so it all made sense. And then, yeah, the pistols weren't that great. They were OK musicians, but every week you watched them, they got better. And so you could see. And then they started to put in their new songs, and it was songs like Pretty Vacant and Anarchy in the UK and you went oh my god these guys are writing anthems for our generation it was like we've got to be part of this you know so they opened this door up that I just sort of walked through it and then now here I'm nearly next year be 50 years you know so it's ridiculous but that's what happened and somehow yeah it just all worked and it was just really good fun.
Starting point is 00:56:25 I mean, that's it. You know, we were just they were telling you in England then those days that there was no future. That's what they were telling us. No future for your generation. It was almost doing almost doing that, you know, you know, you don't stand a chance. You've had it, you know.
Starting point is 00:56:39 So we just thought, well, why not do the thing you love then? You know, if there's no fucking future, let's do the thing we love then you know if there's no fucking future let's do the thing we love and for me it was music some other people maybe they picked up a camera and photographed the scene and some other people who wanted to be journalists who weren't getting a shot you know they they started a fanzine so it was all kind of like do it yourself and and then it it and that these some of these people became journalists some of these people became journalists, some of these people became photographers, and I became a professional musician. And then with a 50 year, next year, 50 year career. Did Generation X come out to America with you, or was that?
Starting point is 00:57:13 We never came here, we broke up before we came here. So you came here completely solo. So yeah, I came here deliberately to New York to restart, to start my solo career, because I kind of knew in England, if I stay there it's likely I'll end up propping up a bar, you know, and that's about it. Because in England, once you've,
Starting point is 00:57:30 it's very, things happen very quickly, and people kind of get, oh, I've seen him. You know, it's over, you know. So I sort of thought, it's best if I go somewhere else, and maybe have some kind of, hopefully have some kind of success, and then go back to England with that success, and then they'll be impressed,
Starting point is 00:57:46 and that's exactly what happens. So you're saying I should move to England, and then come back to England. Come back. Yeah. Speaking of comics, we're Bill Hickson, we have to wrap. Yeah, we're gonna wrap, the new album is great, and you actually do songs with some other artists on it.
Starting point is 00:58:00 You got, yeah, Avra Veen. Avra Veen's song is great. Joan Jett. Joan Jett. Alyssa Mossart, all females, it's great unbelievable man great we're gonna see when you come around yeah we're definitely gonna imagine playing Madison Square Garden yeah I know August 20th very very exciting to make sure also Billy's nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class 2025 far long overdue I'd say quite a 50 year career it's crazy. And still rocking it with a hit song.
Starting point is 00:58:26 And still going, yeah, get Billy Idol in while he can perform well at the awards ceremony. Exactly. I never know what's going to happen. Stop riding motorcycles. Let's keep it on four wheels. Billy Idol everybody, we'll be right back. It's the bonfire.

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