The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly - The Rolling Rocks
Episode Date: January 7, 2025Jacob defends his doll collection and still insists that he is a cowboy. A clip is played in which comedian Tony Rock describes a time when he was hurt because his brother Chris Rock didn't put him i...n a movie. He promised his brother a part and never followed through. Bobby sites comedians that give others a leg up because they want to help and also find them funny. Enjoy this new Bonfire episode, never before aired as a podcast! *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolfSubscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts to listen to new episodes ad-free and a whole week early.
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And now the bonfire with big Jay Okerson and Robert Kelly
Yes Cuban B
Hello, I want to say it's good to be back at the bonfire
We get that as a drop blue
From half baked you know I'm talking about. That's Cuban B. He goes on Cuban B. He goes. Yes
Cuban B. He goes, I'm Cuban B. He goes, yes, Cuban B. The late great Clarence Williams III, or he's still alive. I don't know.
Is Clarence Williams III still alive?
Clarence Williams III? Cuban B?
I feel like he's dead.
He might be dead.
It's weird how people just have gone.
That guy had wish-nick troll hair.
Beelgeuse last night, very interesting way they made that pedophile dude not in the movie but not in the movie.
So funny. They used his likeness.
They used his likeness and they just cut his head off.
You watched it last night?
I watched it last night.
I... it was an unnecessary movie.
Oh, come on.
Did you love it?
No, but it's... I have a kid, dude. I understand, but it wasn't even good. It's... but it's... It was fine. It was an unnecessary movie. Oh, come on. Did you love it? No, but it's the- when you- I have a kid, dude.
I understand, but it wasn't even good.
It's- but it's-
It was fine. It was absolutely fine.
It was fine, but generational thing to, hey, you know, we watch Beetlejuice now.
But you're ruining Beetlejuice.
Dude, after that we watch Lioness, which is a great show.
Did you see that, Joe?
No, but you've told me.
Man, she is so hot and good.
But it's like a military movie, right? so hot and good, but it's like a military movie
It's yeah, but it's fucking in a the lead. It's a tale of Sheridan
He's actually in the next season 2 the first episode is fucking doesn't Yellowstone come back next week or something
It's coming back. Yeah, no no no you know why I don't watch Yellowstone why cuz Kevin Costner's not in it
Because I've told you they stole my idea. So you've never watched it. I'm gonna puke
I watched the first few episodes enough to realize what happened and you've never watched the show itself. No, come on
I'm a cowboy few episodes. I can't sworn we talked about does it mean you Bobby? I think I watched
I don't understand that you're not watching. I can't believe you're not watching it.
You came out, you think they stole your idea.
Yes.
That's crazy.
That's like me not listening to podcasts
because that was my idea.
Or not using social media because I invented it.
Do you listen to podcasts?
No, I don't.
I don't listen to it.
There you go.
Pure anger.
Especially ones I'm on.
It's out of pure anger because they've stolen his idea.
That's crazy, dude. dude lioness great show though really good show pretty pretty he is fucking knocking it out of the park
Taylor Sheridan, and he's jacked. He's fucking great
Love them, but you hate him. I don't hate him
I mean, I'd be funny if you really did steal his show if Taylor Sheridan listens to this show and just over the years
All his ideas from things away before way before that show was on the air. He but he's not
Then Jacob never pitched Yellowstone
He's buried in Farmingdale, New York, by the way, but he is dead. The only thing is a tent to you
I can't believe you wouldn't watch Yellowstone. You'd love it. Well, it's exactly the life you want to live down your alley or your corral
Yeah
Thanks guys. I may give it a shot. I just have to get over my my aggravation. I'll watch it
What's the aggravation technically that they took an idea just for like modern cowboy shit? Yeah. Yeah, you invented that I
Believe so. Yeah. No, I'm pretty sure John Wayne and then before them,
Roy Rogers and.
He's talking about modern cowboy now.
We didn't know, they have a truck instead of a wagon?
Yes, that's exactly what he means.
It's the Yellowstone theme, the way of life.
It's the whole fashion industry built around that guy.
How many saddles do you own?
I don't, where am I gonna use it? In New York City? I'm just asking you, how many saddles do you own? Where am I going to use it?
In New York City?
I'm just asking you how many saddles back at your mom's house?
You have dolls, but how many saddles?
I don't have any dolls.
Well, they're in your house.
My mother's dolls.
In her house.
Jacob, you look over her collection of dolls for her.
Well, they freak me out, and you know they do.
I want one.
They terrify me.
Can I buy one? Ask your mom, she she's selling them I don't think they're
allowed to leave the house I want the
one that I want the one that looks like
something bad happens if they leave that
that's me come to life the borders of
the house the only thing to keep them
fucking still yeah you don't want one
you don't want one Bobby I bet there's
one of Christine that you made Christine
doll yeah they hit tummy times with when
he's down in Florida. He's open his mouth
Hey, I just shot a iguana out front
Uno dos, que, rato, bing, bing, bing, bing
And please enjoy the pre-record this week everybody's where we go through
It's Bobby's final episode of the bonfire before he goes off to get jungle killed
I'm not gonna, first of all Cuba is not a jungle sure it's a tropical island. Yeah
And I'm sorry. What is that somebody put this in the campers group? It says Jacob decorating like this in Florida
Just a bunch of dolls body bags. That's how I'm gonna end up. Yeah
That's all the dolls my ending to your ending to your final resting spot
plastic bag. Jesus Christ. That's from Joshua Davis. Nice fucking meme. I think they make
your spirit. My spirit will actually become one of those dolls eventually. I guess I think
that you die before your parents. If you die before your parents, they will absolutely
put your soul into one of those things.
Your mother knows probably some sort of old Jewish spiritualism, mysticism, like Kabbalah.
Kabbalah.
She knows Krah Magrah and Kabbalah.
Kabbalah.
Why don't you look back in your history and see if any of those dolls look like relatives that have died in the past?
How about if those 12 year olds your fucking family were marrying?
Yeah, there you go. That's probably them. That's probably then
That's probably all they're probably all lacquered up. It was the origin of the curse. Yeah
But if that evil on them all those dolls are from the kids
from back of the day we're like
My brother my sister and I are like the Elm Street children
Yeah, what are you finding your father was like that like that like the piano teacher molester murderer guy
That would be wicked and all the dolls in the house are just fucking lacquered children
They drew fucking lines besides their lips. Oh, no, it's possible
You definitely have to check out the show. You should start watching it now because it is one of the best shows
It's great and Costner is not in the last season
He's not in the last season they couldn't come to terms and then he had to make that flop that he made.
Oh, he has got a whole bunch of bullshit going on and goes, you know what?
I didn't decide to come back for the show.
Instead, you want to watch me ride on a horse through trees and shit?
That's nothing.
You want to see me do the same shit except not as good?
Not the characters you love?
Not as good as what you have seen me do over there.
It's wild.
They're gonna make a spin-off show.
The Sixes, right?
Sixes.
The Sixes.
Which is, actually, people are kind of mad
at Terrell Lasharidan because he's,
all the horses, he has the farm,
he owns that Sixes, the Three Sixes,
he owns all that stuff, he bought it with all his money.
And now all the horses, everything they use on the shows, he owns that sixes, the three sixes. He owns all that stuff, he bought it with all his money.
And now all the horses, everything they use on the shows,
they have to use from him.
So he's making so much money off of his show,
paying his own shit, which I think is smart.
I don't hate him for it.
No, I don't hate him for it, yeah.
The double dip.
Those dudes used to ranch the horses.
Everything.
You're used to the double dippin'.
I like the double dip.
You're used to triple dippin'.
I got a dipper in my life.
I got a couple of dippers.
The old dub dip.
Yeah, you gotta watch it, man.
You have to watch it.
I can't believe it's a...
I'm not boycotting him.
I like the other show.
What, 1982?
No, Sylvester Stallone.
Tulsa King?
Tulsa King's good.
Tulsa King's good. The first the first season a little better this season's
I haven't seen I've only up to the it's episode 4. It's good
I would say it. No, it's good first season was great. But you know, it's a comedy though, isn't it? No, it's funny, but
You can tell that they're kind of lean
Trying to do a little more
Little terrible lines, but that's Stallone.
I heard first season was a lot of terrible lines.
It's Stallone, Stallone comes with those lines.
Who was telling me the thing was like,
I heard Cash is king, like these lines like that constantly.
Yeah, it was that.
It's still good.
It's still good.
He's still seeing Stallone like you wanna see Stallone.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, I mean, seeing Stallone as a mob guy is pretty you he's never played that
Well, he's a good mob guy. Mm-hmm. He's a nice mob guy with a heart of gold
He's a mob guy who who fights against the bad mom. Well, he's not really he actually
They he's he's he kind of went into a town and slapped around a bunch of nerds, took over their business,
got another poor kid to drive him around, took him from his dad who's working hard his
whole life.
He's a piece of shit.
But he's making money for them.
The town's thriving.
Getting that scourge.
He's not really.
He's thriving.
Everybody else is pretty much paying up to him
And now he's getting all these regular people that would just be selling weed
Doing lift is now basically in the fucking mob the guys. I mean spoiler the guys missing a dad now
It's pretty terrible with this guy you watching penguin, but they have family. That's the one I heard is amazing
Heard penguins good. I'm only I've only seen three episodes, but there's like five out penguins good. That's the one I heard is amazing heard penguins good. I'm only I've only seen three episodes, but there's like five out penguins good
That's good. What is that on max max?
I gotta get that I gotta get max. I gotta get my V my box back in your V card my V card. Yeah
What's what's the other one that he does though with
Jeremy Renner
What's that called mayor of Kingstown? Every Kingstown? It's great. That's himner. What's that called? Mayor of Kingstown?
Mayor of Kingstown, it's great.
That's him also?
That's him also, dude,
he is the king of television right now.
Mayor of Kingstown, I hear, is really good.
Mayor of Kingstown?
But at one point, Jeremy Renner had to not do it
because he ran his own legs over with a snow plow
or something.
He ran his body over, he saved his nephew or something.
Yeah, what a masculine dude he is.
Yeah, it was.
And he was our friend's makeup artist at her wedding.
He was what?
Yeah.
What?
Back in the day in LA.
He was a what?
He was her makeup artist for her wedding.
I'm sorry, I thought you said he was her makeup artist.
You heard me say the words right.
He did makeup.
But the guy also builds houses for fun with his brother.
You just ruined the whole fucking show.
It's probably like 95. What. It's probably like 95?
What?
It's probably like 95?
He did makeup?
Hawkeye does makeup?
Hawkeye did makeup.
Hawkeye did makeup.
He's a makeup guy?
Now he builds homes with his brother for fun,
and they just sell them.
Oh.
You're right.
That's what he does.
He's a very masculine guy.
Makeup?
I like it.
I mean, coming from the guy with pink fingernails
and has a fingernail appointment next Wednesday, and I'm an appointment
It's this Thursday and there's no point you just walk in all right. Well you walk in and they go what color mr. J
They don't call me mr. J. No, I walk in they go they go eyebrow gel tip
Mr.. Pinky Tuckadero they go gel manicure eyebrow you go crazy this week
You go to pick again, and then they go real fast
It goes it goes put take off you go start to remove gel then
Eyebrow we do eyebrow and we take off a bobby pink no bobby pink you go manly go black again
This week I'm gonna go white
Why Jacob I'll tell you Trump cuz we're going to yeah because because white is alright. No cuz uh, I'm gonna be doing my
Unofficial hey if you want to come say hi and take a picture and bullshit at the red dog, sorry
Okc this Friday and Saturday, but when you walk into a strip club, they have one thing and they always have one thing
Blacklights and it's gonna make my fingers look dough
Yeah, your eyes your fingers everything's gonna look so little little logo. Should I wear my new car?
I might team any contact lenses. I got yeah wear those number those freak everybody out do that
No, do that free look awesome. They looked fucking nuts. They looked awesome. I thought you were dying
Not those ones. Those were they're different. Those were black with red around them
Yeah, but christine when I wore the one I thought you sneezed too hard when I was at sky fest when I wore the marilla manson
One with the other one looked pretty dope pretty dope. Yeah, the red the red the black and red ones
No, it looks like you fucking had ozempic accident. You didn't know what was going on. So it's probably pretty jarring
Yeah, because he walked up and he was like fucking
You had red around your eyes.
Like your eyes were bleeding.
I know. It was so funny letting you go through a thing.
It goes, seriously?
We're on air and you don't...
You were genuinely like, I don't...
That's not okay, dude.
I thought you were dying.
Like, your eyes are okay. I go, what?
The fact that you just thought you were worried about the red
and not the fact that my eyes were not now blue
and completely black.
Just, it was nuts. You didn't notice the darkness of the eyes. I didn't notice the darkness the red around it freaked me out. I thought you were dying and that
would have sucked a bag of ass. Everybody else thought out, most people at
Skyfest said they thought that I was on like Molly or something. My pupils
had dilated. I'm like, no just contact Linda. But they'd go, man you are really
fucked up huh? I go, what? No. I'm like, oh, because those are contacts.
I forget that you do dress-up.
It's not dress-up.
It's dress-up.
It's cosplay.
It's guy dress-up.
It's costuming.
Yeah, it's costuming.
Buddy, I'm trying to find any excuse in the world
to pop that Marilyn Manson eye back in.
I don't think you took care of them right to wear them again.
They're sitting in saline. Oh they are yeah
Negative Nellie she is
Really just really said a lot about what she thinks about you. I don't think you took care of them right
You didn't do anything you didn't you didn't I know you didn't do it you didn't read directions. God man
She is a crab. Oh, you know why could we please look up you were telling me outside that
Tony rock comedy duo Tony and Chris Rock. Well, I don't
The Rock boys. Well, I was it was a re the rolling rocks. Aris
Sphere, Aries Spears. Very Spears. Yes. I love it. His podcast
He's on a podcast and he kind of calls out like how Eddie Murphy never ever put Charlie
in anything he ever did.
I mean not one fucking thing.
Nothing?
I mean nothing career wise.
He put Arsenio Hall and broke him.
And I think Charlie Murphy is 100% funnier than Charlie.
Charlie Murphy's funnier than Arsenio Hall, I think.
You think?
In my opinion, yeah.
In what it would have taken to be a good,
someone acting well in a movie?
Well, it's just weird to me that, you know,
when you get to that point, you kind of take a lot of people,
you have to go back down in the elevator and get the rest of the people, right?
But his brother wasn't looking for entertainment.
His who? Charlie?
Charlie. I don't think he was looking for entertainment that young.
They put him in things.
But I don't think he was like a he started doing comedy when he got famous.
Yeah, but he never did anything with him, which is not as bad.
I think it's Chris who who.
Now, I mean, I know Tony, I opened for Tony, I was middling for Tony at the improv back in the day.
He's been a comic standup for a long time, and he's never been in anything Chris has
ever done.
I mean, nothing.
He doesn't think he's ready for it.
What?
He doesn't think he's good for it.
What are you gonna do? He doesn't think he's ready for it. What? He doesn't think he's good for it.
Listen, Chris Rock, first of all, is a nightmarishly terrible actor in everything he's ever been
in.
He has never been good.
Great comic, you know, with a history and stuff, but like, never a good actor.
He was bad on Saturday Night Live.
He was bad on fucking, in every movie, the shitty Down to earth He did every movie he's been and he's been terrible
It's say he's been one funny scene that he has pulled off in one movie and it was I'm gonna get you sucker
when he comes in to buy the
When he comes in to buy one rib, he was good. He has great scene great scene, but he was also good new jack city
He was really good new jack really good. Okay. Yeah, I mean absolutely great act
But he was a young guy doing this thing anytime they put him as like the lead in New Jack City is pooky. Okay, you're right. I mean, great actor. But he was a young guy doing his thing.
Anytime they put him as the lead in anything,
he is garbage.
He was terrible in that stupid Saul movie spin-off they made.
He's just not a good actor.
So why he would judge Tony
and not put him in something like that, I don't know.
But I just think, I don't think he respects his brothers
funny, if I'm being quite honest.
I think it comes down to that,
he hasn't put Jordan Rock in anything either.
Well, here's the thing though.
It's like, Louis put everybody in everything.
I promise you we didn't use people
that he didn't think were actually funny.
There's no way.
Also funny friends, not just family.
That's what I'm saying, it's like a family
that wanna be in it doesn't necessarily make it a thing.
I don't know.
Look, if your daughter got into the business
and you had a TV show or you started popping off,
which you know, you will, it's coming,
when you get all the stuff that you want.
I'm 50.
Louis Black didn't make it through his 50.
Oh good, he's dead now.
He's not dead, Louis Black is not dead.
He's very alive.
Um.
Okay. But what I'm saying is Black is not dead. He's very alive. Um. Okay.
But what I'm saying is, is that you get to this point,
you would put your family or people in something,
can you stop with your fucking sexy fucking pose?
I'm just trying to get sexy.
Every day you try to take over the room with that pose.
I'm not taking over the room, I'm just looking sexy.
Go ahead, I'm, my apologies.
No, I just wanna hear, I just wanna look at you.
I can't, I can't talk now
No, don't do the cross of the fingers. I can't
Don't do the fucking thought fingers Jay
Okay, I had a thought I want to get to my point. I want you to say I don't don't do it
I'm gonna take it in when you say it like this
Find you so attractive.
Wait, let me do this. Let me do this move here.
Here it goes. I'm gonna come in for it.
Say my name and you start talking.
Jay.
Yeah?
You're so powerful with that leg up.
It just drives me batty.
You own the room.
Bobby, you had something.
I do.
My point is this. I'm gonna use. I do. My point is this.
I'm going to use AOC fingers.
My point is this.
Now, if your brother or your family is in the business, the business that we're in,
you need to help them.
Give them a hand up.
Pull them up by their bootstraps and help them. Is that me? No, that's not me
That's you Jay. Oh look, it was me, but it's spam. Okay
you need to
Get them help them give them a shot if they get in there look at you
Adam Sandler puts all these people in movies. Yep. they're not fucking great, but he gives them a shot
No, no those guys were all really comedic. I do call him Quinn really best actor on the fucking planet. No, okay
There you go. I love calling
McConaughey's a bit in a ton of move every he's in every Sandler movie
Yes, well, yes, I just put his daughters in a movie. I haven't seen it. Yeah, dude
He's how I understand people in the fucking movies because it doesn't matter sure this give them a chance
But the things you also want to do I absolutely get it
I have a feeling probably what it is is
He may have a little of what people thought I would have in my ex-wife is that what Chris Rock might feel like is
Like because this was my thing and I wanted to do it and I was on he was the one that went and like the stories hanging out
grinding out the comic strip and trying to get in all these rooms and
Blah blah blah, and he's like that's my story and now everybody I mean Jordan Rock's last name isn't rock
Do you know I mean they they they they they Tony's is I believe but it's like they do this to uh
Buddy how nice does that feel but you look back further in the chair pull
the mic to you check straighten it out straighten it out a little bit now he's
got to be a little lower below your mouth so straighter and you get back up
and also keep his microphone on the whole time for it they both I mean you
should say Bobby's got his,
what is it?
Bobby's now, his foot is up.
Jay, you were saying?
I was saying, in a situation like this,
there might be actual, a little annoyance where it's like,
okay, if you want to do this, then make your own way,
like throughout, like never have this be about nepotism then
because you're Tony Rock or Jordan Rock.
Bobby?
It's like a war of attrition.
A counterpoint to your point,
I agree with what you're saying.
I have no problem with that.
But if you have the opportunity to give somebody a shot,
to see what they got, to let them prove themselves and that your brother. It's la familia
Why not give it to them cuz they're not close
I don't think is there a Tony character on everybody hates Chris. Yes, is there his name's Tony
He's got a brother named Tony. No, I just made that up. But you know what you don't know that I don't
I've never watched an episode. There's new episodes and Tony's not in that either. But here's the thing. Mm-hmm
He's saying in this clip and I want to back this up. He's saying look I get it
I understand make it on your own do your own thing, which he respects. It's the the one thing that sucked
Dramatic pause.
That was good.
Thanks.
That was good.
It felt good.
It felt good.
God, it looked good.
What I'm saying is.
Hey Bobby, if I'm being completely honest.
Oh go ahead, Jay, yes.
That was good.
Jay, thank you.
Jacob, I got my eye on you.
Jacob, I'm gonna deal with you in a minute.
Hang on one second.
I got my eye on you.
Well, you gotta give him a little side eye.
You talk to it, at the end of the talk you go,
Jacob, I need you to let Bobby finish his thoughts.
That's powerful.
That's some powerful...
Jacob, I can't right now.
It's Bobby's time.
I want to try it a little quick Jake seriously, man
I'm in the middle of this and I got to get this out. Okay. That's the last man
Look is so good. I feel powerful as hell. God damn it. That felt good. What I'm saying is is he says
Here's the thing the trick. He actually came in. I got a movie for you. His point is okay. I get it
I get it, but he came to the cello one night, yo, I got a movie for you.
And he's like, really?
Great, awesome, I love it.
Opportunity.
I have to audition?
Nah, you're in it.
He was even like, I'll audition, which is cool.
And then he called his agent,
hey, my brother said, this movie's happening.
I'm in it, I got a part, I have to audition, blah, blah, blah.
They called, they called.
A month or so later, got a phone call from somebody a part after audition, blah, blah, blah. They called, they called.
A month or so later, got a phone call from somebody,
friend, family, blah, blah, blah.
Yo, where are you?
We're on the set.
What?
This is what he's telling here?
Yeah.
Oh, so play this.
So play this clip and then you'll hear,
which he makes a good point.
It's like, don't give me hope.
I get it, you're my bro, I'll make it on my own.
I'm cool with that. But don't say, hey, I'm in, you're my bro, I'll make it on my own, I'm cool with that.
But don't say, hey, I'm in something,
and then not put me in it, which is his problem.
I wanted to know, this baffled the shit out of me,
and both you and Eddie Murphy, I go,
we know as black men how hard it is
for us to make it in this hustle.
It's hard for white boys to make it,
because of the competitive nature of the beast. But for us, make it in this hustle right it's hard for white boys to make it right because of the competitive nature
With a beast right thank you before us. It's even harder right so I go
How is it that Eddie Murphy's your brother? I don't see you and know Eddie Murphy vehicles Charlie
How is it that Chris Rock is your brother?
Because also you can't bring Charlie Murphy on to set of fucking the clumps
He was problematic wasn't he I mean like historically these things are like that Because also you can't bring Charlie Murphy onto set of fucking the clumps.
He was problematic, wasn't he? I mean, like, historically these things were like,
he's a loose cannon guy.
I mean, look, I don't know really about Charlie Murphy.
I know Charlie kind of learned stand-up after
and got into the business, but he did do it on his own
with those stories that were epic on the Chappelle show.
He didn't do it on his own.
He did it, like, Chappelle moved in and he goes,
and also Chappelle understood what was funny
about Charlie Murphy completely.
So you're making my point.
Somebody saw the funny and gave the person the opportunity.
You think Eddie would see the funny in his brother and direct him in the way to be funny.
But Chappelle was just like, tell these stories and we're going to act them out.
He doesn't even have really Charlie Murphy. And back to my point about Louis,
he saw where people were funny and wrote parts for that.
You know what I'm saying?
He saw where I, okay, Bobby's a good actor,
but this type of thing he could be good at right here.
But he respects your career in comedy.
As should you all in this room.
We do. Jacob?
I know you do, but Jacob.
Jacob, honestly? Honestly. I? I know you do, but Jacob. Jacob, honestly?
Honestly.
I'm gonna need you.
Jacob, you're gonna have to give Bobby what he's deserved.
I mean, I'm just saying this once
and I'll say it once and I'll move on.
You do.
Christine.
Yeah.
Hit play.
Ooh, Chris Rock shit.
And now before you answer,
here's the one that fucked me up the most. the movie that Chris and Martin was in where they played brothers
No, definitely that fucked me up. I'm going
Not in a million fucking years to Chris Rock and Martin have the same facial features. Yes, Tony
Is his brother and look like him? How is Tony not in the fucking movie?
Wait, I'm sorry. Is he asking he's talking about Martin like Martin Martin Martin Lawrence, but here the Tony Rock is smart
He stayed he explains rock and Martin kiss rock actually kiss rock
One of the best concerts I've ever seen kiss rock kiss rock
They were in a fight, I don't know what it was called was a dumb movie
I mean like why would you get like Martin Lawrence is like a crazy established, hilarious
person.
Why would you be like, you should just put your brother in instead of this other superstar.
Play the shit.
That is crazy.
That's a psychotic thing to say.
Hey, I say this, Christine, Jacob, Jay, play the clip.
Who's he playing his brother?
I'll give you another one. They did the longest yard in Arizona. Oh, yeah. Yeah, right? Yeah him and him in the Sandler. Yeah
Joey Diaz Joey Diaz my man forever. Joey Diaz is my man forever
Joey Diaz said day one on the set he walked on the set saw all the people in the prison
My brother came on set ready to shoot. He said hey, hold the fuck up
What a fuck is Tony? So you mean Tony doesn't fit in this fucking movie I said
Joey Diaz you my man forever yeah you my man forever Joey Diaz explain that to me
to try to explain to try I can't if you're in the movie the money stays in
the family listen I agree does he know that the mics work? Airy spheres. Yeah. No, he doesn't believe in technology. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That's that religion, right?
He's Amish
And I'm not making it I'm not saying it's gonna make sense but my brother
Sometimes and you can see it in what he does in his movements and his actions and stuff like that like Martin in the movie
He's a businessman when it comes to
his movies and TV stuff, you know I'm saying so
Martin's bigger than me. I need to sell this movie. Tony's my brother. Yes, there will be some you know
Hey him and his brother in a movie. Let's go check it out. But him and Martin
Pushed the needle more
I'm only speaking on that movie in that in that regard. I get it. I was like, okay
I get it the one that fucked me up
Here's the one that fucked me up and I've never told anybody this only a few of my like two of my boys notice and maybe
You know my siblings when he did the movie top five
I Was on tour I Well, he did the movie top five I
Was on tour I
Came home like for a week. I was at the Comedy Cellar
We hadn't seen each other in a while and we don't talk we don't talk a lot We've got now since the divorce we talk a lot more but he was in his a lot less this video
Why isn't Tony bring?
a lot less since this video. Why doesn't Tony bring Sherrod to open for him
all over the country if he's touring big?
Have you seen Sherrod?
Yes.
But I'm saying, but why?
I don't know.
My whole point is that, again, it's a mindset
I had to adapt pretty young because of the,
just circumstantially, the kind of like,
the situation I started comedy in
was to watch what happened for Kev.
And then I watched personalities in Philly Comedy
who spent their career without saying names
like really going like,
when's this motherfucker coming back for us?
Instead of just going like,
you're gonna be out of your god damn mind
if you wait for that kind of fucking to happen.
I get that, Patrice, when he got his,
he did his podcast, when he did his MTV show,
he did like a sketch show.
I was like, I'm an actor, blah, blah,
but in my head I'm like, he just,
I'm not in, he doesn't have me in his mind
and that's good, I'm fine with that.
If you put me in something, you put me in it.
If you don't, it's almost, I mean, Dane,
kinda, when they force it, it fucks ya. Well it's funny how much you felt bad when you were saying, when you were doing the comedy campaign, dude, I mean, Dane kinda, when they force it, it fucks ya.
He for...
Well, it's funny how much you felt bad
when you were saying, when you were doing the comedy campaign,
dude, I want you to go, Bobby,
you booked what you thought was the best thing for the film,
who gives a shit?
I don't think you don't think I'm funny
or don't wanna work with me or anything.
But you deserve that, you deserve that, hey bro,
I wanted you in this thing.
But here's the thing, like when Dane,
the first movie I auditioned, I got in,
we improv'd the blah.
The second movie, he actually wanted me
to be the third lead.
And I was like, no dude, just let me audition.
If I book it, I book it.
And he's like, no.
And he actually fought for me,
which I understand is my friend.
But they got mad at him.
And then Kate Hudson was like,
I'm not fucking, because she was supposed to be with him.
She's like, who the fuck is that?
We're not casting Dane's pal that nobody knows.
And I'm like, I get it.
And it kind of fucked me up on the movie with the director,
because it kind of forced me in this thing.
Right.
So it was like, I had, so I understand what not,
you have to do what's best for the movie and to sell tickets, so great.
But this is, listen to this shit, this is the stuff
that I agree with him on that's kinda fucked up,
what he says.
Swear we weren't really talking a lot.
And I walk into Comedy Cellar, and he's there,
he's at the table with Colin and all of the guys,
and I'll go over to say what's up, and he goes,
hey, got a movie, man.
Put you in it.
I did not ask for anything.
Chris will tell you, I've never, like I said before,
it's on the headliners only,
I've asked him for five favors my whole life.
He said no every time, and I swore on everything I loved,
I would never ask him for anything as long as I lived.
So that night, I walk in the comedy cell,
he goes, yo, I got a movie, I'm putting you in it.
Now I gotta do my due diligence, okay? Who do I have to call? Do I have to audition? I've sent a tape
No, you good. You good. You good
We're shooting in New York to I'm like bet summertime in New York. I'm gonna be in New York for the summer
I'm gonna be home shooting a movie with my brother for the summer. I'm beyond excited. It don't get no better than this
I'm thinking it's another this is another one of those things where people never know how close you are
So it's New York is another one of things where people never know how close you are So it's New York
Sounds like they're not close
That's what I would see from the thing like I think I feel like when Chris Rock would come to the cellar
It wasn't just like maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm seeing this wrong
But I just felt they were never like it was always Sherrod and Tony
We're like best buddy and Chris Rock would come in and they would kind of hang around Chris Rock like that night
but it wasn't really like I didn't see like a
Tony wasn't like hey, I'm leaving the open for my brother all over the country. I would make sense
Well, he said it I asked him five favors. I never asked him again. I get it. I'm out and they don't talk
He said his brother didn't even do the five favors. He asked him
It's like they're just not close but the thing is is that it it's like, I got a movie, you're in. Do I have to audition?
No, you're in.
Yeah.
And that's where it's like fucked up to me.
I mean, that's fucked up.
He should have made his name Anthony Stone.
Get it, Tony Rock?
Thank you, Jacob.
An evil Jacob.
I'm just saying that this, if you've said no, you've never put him in you have that relationship You're not close whatever and then you take the hint Tony
He's like I got you yeah, this is crazy. I want to hear I got you cuz this is where we're at yeah
Standing I know
Everybody that's background I know
So I'm on tour waiting for the phone call
Tell my management tell my agency yo once he calls we gonna pause the tour and go shoot the movie
Yeah, bet we ready and I start getting phone calls like hey, I'm on set. Where you at?
What you mean on set we we started shooting today today was first day. Oh shit. I didn't get a phone call a
Week later some chick. Hey, babe, where you at? I'm doing background on this club scene. Are you here?
What are you talking? Yeah, we shooting me the top five is up and running
like a month in
nigga two months in I
Get a fucking phone call. Yo, you're at the rap party. We here. Oh
Yo, bro, that shit crushed me that
Shit crushed me. So Why do you look until you saw a
time five no one gave a fuck about exactly no one gives a fat shit about
yeah Adam Sandler makes successful film he's also made clunks out the wazoo at this point
They're all baked in audiences. He can put all his friends in people are just gonna watch
because it's Adam Sandler. Is that Adam Sandler? I don't even know what top five is.
Top five is a shit. It'm not. I'm comparing it.
It's a movie they filmed here.
A Sirius X M a bunch, actually.
I watched them film a scene.
It was a fucking, it was a, but he put a bunch of,
he's right though.
He did put a like, like, Chase in that, Leslie Jones.
It was like a whole bunch of people, yeah.
Sam Roberts.
Is Sam Roberts in it?
Is he really?
But Norton.
Kevin Hart, Gabrielle Union, Sedge.
I mean.
I remember, I was leaving.
Oh, you know what?
Kevin's in this movie and there's a white character.
Why am I not in this movie?
Yeah, but when you say I got you, you're in.
Do I gotta audition?
Oh, it's funky as shit.
No, that's fucked up.
That's funky.
When you give somebody expectations, it sucks. I wanna hear why he didn't pick up the phone and call his brother. Again, no, but that's what up. That's funky when you give somebody expectations it sucks
I want to hear why he didn't pick up the phone again though
But that's what it really comes in also
It's like Tony's being like I get it to being like prideful, but I would would call to be like
Why would you tell me we were doing that and then not do I would have called on the first phone call?
I would have called yeah, he goes. He goes. Hey, I thought you said I was in this and then if he goes
Oh, man, we got to figure out thing
I go you could tell if someone's like scurrying to get out of a loss
You can go. Oh, dude. You know what? I'm good. If you forgot dude, I'm all good
you can at least have your put your piece and they just be like to wait years later and
Aired on fucking in this podcast is a kind of a goofy way to do like why would you not call him in this business?
certain people
Have the power of God.
They do.
Is this good? Do you like this?
I do like that.
Your index finger on your side of your cheek,
the three fingers folded in front of your mouth,
because you're going to listen.
You're not going to open your mouth.
It's not about talking.
And your chin is underneath,
holding your head up respectfully.
And I like that about you.
And I do.
That's a good point.
Jacob?
I mean your actual point.
Jacob, Jacob, look at my finger, follow my finger.
Jacob?
Pay attention.
Jacob, Jacob, now right now Bobby's talking.
Thank you, Jake.
Look, you have the power of fucking God,
some of these people where, is it going to change your life?
Are you going to be as successful as them?
No, but it will put money in your bank account
and give you a little more gas in your engine,
these little things that you get in.
Anything you get in gives a little more here and there.
100% agreed, I'm saying that.
So when you give me expectations,
you give me hope like that,
I've never asked for anything in this business.
But if somebody said,
yeah, I'm putting you in this thing,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
I'd be like, to me, I'm like, that's fucking,
that is so crazy, like, that's amazing, thank you.
This is gonna help me.
I also think an ask that makes sense isn't a bad ask.
Of all things, man, my old buddy Wayne,
when I was at his house one time,
just said, which I think was a good thing for me,
was years ago, I saw Jim Jefferies was doing Carnegie Hall
for the New York Festival.
And I was like, man, that must be fucking amazing.
Wow, he's doing Carnegie Hall.
He goes, well, don't you know Jim?
I was like, yeah.
He goes, ask him if you could open for him.
And I was like, I'm not gonna ask him if I could open for him.
And he goes, what's the big deal?
He goes, you could ask him. He's got somebody, he's got somebody. I called him, he was like, yeah'm not gonna ask him if I could open for him. And he goes, what's the big deal? He goes, you could ask him.
He's got somebody, he's got somebody.
Of course, I called him and he was like,
he's like, yeah, mate, sure.
It's a little different asking to be on a show,
to be on a movie,
because there is a lot of politics that go into casting.
Yeah, but Carnegie Hall is something
where you don't want it to go shitty.
Of course, I'm not arguing with that.
I'm saying Chris Rock, to me,
I would feel that Chris Rock has a,
I don't think he likes that his brothers are doing comedy.
That would be my guess.
It might be that, it might be that,
but don't give him, stay steady.
That's funky across the board, no matter what.
That's shitty to say you're in something
and then not put people in something.
Everybody I know was on the Burt Kreischer tour.
I love Burt.
We've been friends since he moved to New York,
I've known him. But it's like, I don't, alright dude,
it does, I'm not, I don't go,
and I hate that when people are like,
why aren't I on that fucking tour?
Who gives a shit?
You're not.
I was on the virus tour when so many people were like,
how do I get on that?
You're just not.
I don't know how the fuck I'm here.
Right?
So I understand that shit
But that type of thing if some you know when people give you the hope of being on something and then they just blow you off
That fucking thing and it's your your family. It's crazy. Why don't see maybe I miss it
But like I've never seen Chris Rock give much acknowledgement to Tony
Even existing even a thing like Tony and again
look it's good publicity for him but after Chris got slapped yeah like Tony
is like the next two sets he did or something was like man if I saw Will
Smith right now I punched that motherfucker you know like it was just
like what he would do to kick Will Smith's ass for fucking with his brother
like that yeah and like I think one you just feel Chris Rock doesn't even say
like not he's just nothing he just kind of gives no acknowledgement to it, which was I mean look at they they've always talked about like how
How crazy they're you know, that's my brother and I remember Chris would come in and Sherrod and Tony would go downstairs and watch
His set dancing give him
Give him notes and stuff like that and play dance. So So maybe they're not as close as I thought they were.
Yeah, that's what I think.
I think it's just a flat out,
they're not, it sounds like they're just not close.
Yeah. At all.
Yeah.
Can I just end this?
It's only a couple seconds. Yeah, sure.
Rushed me, bro.
So why didn't you call?
I've never seen the movie Top Five.
I shouldn't have to call.
You said to your brother, I'm gonna put you in a movie.
I should just get a phone call, like,
yo, tomorrow we hit, two o'clock we shoot.
Or yo, give me an email, I'm gonna send you the sides.
You had to be angry.
Bruh, it devastated me.
It's cause you did something.
Damn it.
You did something.
And he's not saying I was angry.
But you spitting in people's face telling them it's raining.
He's saying it.
He's saying it hurt, man.
That hurt.
He's not even saying I'm pissed off.
He's like, that fucked me up.
I bet.
Yeah, because you gave me a little something.
You never know who's gonna watch something.
That's how fucking crazy this business is.
You never know who's gonna watch something
and see it and be like, oh, I want this.
We did that short film cheat, me, Burr, and DeRosa.
We did that for ourselves just to have something to do
and create something together.
And then all of a sudden, somebody saw it
and put it in the, you know, Serpico saw it
and got it in the Tribeca Film Festival.
All of a sudden, we're sitting at the Tribeca Film Festival.
Someone there, you know, was like, you guys should write a book.
And then from that, FX got involved.
And it's like, you never know what a little tiny thing
could do for your career.
So when you get hope like that from your brother,
even if you don't talk, it's...
No, that's, I'd say that's situations.
Listen, I don't even fuck about Kid Rock.
Kid, you love Kid Rock. I love Kid Rock. Bobby is your friend. I don't even fuck about kid kid rock. I love kid. I love kid Robby is your friend
I don't fuck about Chris Rock. I never really had I mean bigger and blacker or not bigger and blacker. Um bring the pain
Was phenomenal. Yeah, especially when it came out. It was timely when it came out and it was fucking so good
However, I've always heard that has always been dialed back to me as
Like well, yeah, I was written by Wanda and Louie.
And you're like, okay.
Was it?
That's what I've always heard.
It has to be in the credits if it was.
I don't, probably special thanks.
Has to be written by.
That's not true.
If you buy it, if you buy it, it's absolutely not true.
Chappelle's show says written by Neil Brennan
and Dave Chappelle.
That's true.
I saw Gomez's special and it was written by Lewis.
Yeah, right? Crazy.
I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
That comes out hurtful when nobody laughs.
I mean, Jesus Christ.
No, you're right.
You could just buy it and then you could just say it yours then.
It's wild.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
I thought you had to give them writer credit,
especially if they're in the writer's guild.
You can't just write something for somebody and not...
Oh, the guild, maybe if it's guild thing,
but Kurt wasn't when he wrote on, uh,
when he wrote on Chappelle Show.
Oh, Louis and Wander were in the writers guild.
But can't it just be like a backdoor deal?
Like, it's not like a real...
No, I think for that, I think...
I think legally, I mean, I guess you can,
but legally you have to...
Go to the credits for Bring the Pen.
That'd be interesting to see see cuz I didn't know that
I didn't know that always been told to me that way again. It's just I'm going by
Comedy hearsay technically there's people that that I know that have writers and I didn't even fucking know
I didn't know that was an option. I didn't know you could I know it's an option
I think it's a weird one and let listen. I understand why Kevin Hart would do it
I fully understand it. Why is that because you're friends with him now and you don't want
to throw him under the bus no fuck him okay no not fucking but I mean also I
don't give a shit also I'm saying in the sense of that like if I've always I'd
have to assume I shouldn't even say but I think I've been told and third-hand
and whatever way that the guys that go with them on the road are like
writing for yeah
great, but the thing is uh
He's such a machine. It's not like when he's around during the day
It's like whatever his jokes all gonna be about like you ever been reading through scripts
See which one you want to do and then you realize that the bell is the butler's day off and you're calling this motherfucker's name
All day, and you're wondering why you don't have steak tartare in your bedroom
Like it's just you go to a ditty party and something's on your dick
You know what to do and you call your doctor friend
You come over and get it off before your wife sees it next thing you know Tommy Lee's halfway up your butt with a fucking
rubber hose and it's a
They're not even in the fakes Wow
And listen, I'd hate to give a terrible
It's just like club rumors, right?
It was always to me just like the thing...
First of all, Christine, I like that term.
Club rumors?
Club rumors.
Look at all these rumors surrounding me every day.
So yeah, who knows for sure, but I was always told that.
But it's fantastic.
That special was so good when it came out. And Bigger and Blacker, I thought they all progressively kind of got worse to me.
This is my personal taste.
I think comics, when they get up to that top echelon, they come out with that motherfucker.
Look, Just the Tip was like my favorite album.
And then, you know, it's like these guys, when they get to a certain point,
it's like how much fucking holy shit hours do you have?
You know what I mean?
Where it's like you hit the pinnacle of holy fuck.
I mean Killbox, I love Killbox, but it wasn't my best album.
I'll be honest, I don't think so.
I think Live from the Village Underground
was a better album.
I think you kinda get up there and then everything is,
everything is judged by that.
And then if you don't do it better than that
or just as good, people start picking it apart.
But it was kind of what's your one,
like the beauty that I had with like
Live from Webster Hall, which was my first hour.
Yeah.
It was just like the culmination of like,
it was like the whole special was made of like closers for the past decade.
You know what I mean? Because like I hadn't done anything like that long on TV.
So I'm like, oh, shit, I have like all these bits that are just, you know,
I've moved on from some of them in my, you know, weekly set.
But like, I haven't done them on anything.
So that was a culmination. Then I had to base it.
Then over.
Plus people don't know you.
People weren't exposed to you.
So it's like all of a sudden you get exposed
and people are like, holy shit, this is new.
It's interesting.
So they're already exposed to you
and by the time you do your second or third,
they know you and there's some other fucker
that came up that is new and exciting and shining.
It's interesting.
It's like, well, it's like this degenerate sandwich.
I'm very happy. I'm proud of all the stuff I've done,
for the most part.
Jay, I'm proud of you.
Thank you.
But I mean, Degenerates was written,
that was like the material minus 10 minutes
that I just had since the year or so before
when I did Live from Webster Hall.
And then Dog Belly was like two years of work writing a new hour, you know, through time
or whatever it is.
So it's like, it all kind of goes back to, you're right, but Live from Webster Hall is
always going to be a thing that'll like, you remember that.
So Bring the Pain is the thing I thought personally, it was the fan that got worse, but also Chris
Rock's thing was never quite solidified to me as, like, what it was.
Do you know what I mean? Like, he never, like, uh...
He never excited me, Chris Rock, like, comedically at all,
even though I know he's very, very good.
I'm gonna have to change my position right now
because I've been holding in a fart for around 10 minutes.
Okay.
And having my leg up like this is excru...
It's painful.
I'm gonna have to pull this down.
You know, so with Live at Webster Hall, you kind of, like, even though it wasn painful. Okay, I'm gonna have to pull this down Also with live at Webster Hall kind of like even though it wasn't a special like you did have America and an American storyteller
Which I think was 2009
So wasn't like everything no, but even if before you go five years, though
I know what's gonna say five seven years in between like doing something like that
It's like a long time to build stuff up now once you have a thing come out
like doing something like that, it's like a long time to build stuff up.
Now, once you have a thing come out,
now you're starting from zero
and you should be pumping something out
every like at least two years at most for material.
Well, because now too, it's like once you're at Kev's stage,
they need you to do another hour
because people's mortgages are getting paid
off of your fucking hour.
And he's just not having life experience
that he can sit and like, sit and like write,
you know, creativity, he'd have to force the time.
So it's better for his boys to kind of just watch his day
to day conducting of life.
Do you ever send five guys down to a hotel lobby
to get buckets of ice and do an ice mask?
Yeah.
That's painful shit, man.
It's talking about a summer house.
You ever make your friends play Russian roulette
just to see, just to see if they will? Do you have to make your friends play Russian roulette just to see.
Just to see if they will.
You have to pull hot soup on your friend's face just to see him scream.
Damn, Jordan Rock's not even listed as a sibling.
Jordan Rock's not listed as a sibling.
I don't think he is.
Because here's the thing, Sherrod is not related to Chris Rock.
No, they're not cousins?
They're neighbors.
No.
No, they're neighbors. But they're not related.
No, right, they were just neighbors.
Growing up.
They were friends, yeah, yeah,
so they called each other cousins,
but they're not related, there's no blood relation.
But Tony Rock is his brother.
Tony Rock is his brother.
I mean, they look alike,
but Jordan has to look alike.
And Jordan Rock is like a dad with another kid,
with another mom or something, so he's,
his name's not Rock, though, from or something so he's had his name's
not rock though from my understanding what's his last name I don't know can we
find out maybe what do you think it is Jordan rocks real name and maybe it's
why I don't think it is though rocks a badass name for comedy it's fantastic but
I'm saying you take it look it's again same thing my ex-wife uses uh it's her
last name but it's my last name
and it's like that's
She's making a choice for sure you're always gonna get the
Comparison yeah, yeah
Younger brother of Chris Rock Andre Rock Tony Rock
Kenny I remember Kenny Kenny was great. I actually like Kenny a lot Yeah, Kenny was Kenny had no interest in comedy
He would just come hang out Kenny Rock Rose Rock. That's weird and Andy Rock
Cousin of sure that's crazy. So he so they but if if that guy is cousins if the mother hooked up with somebody else
that is related to that rock and
He's related to Sherrod, cousins,
that makes, is he just saying Chris Rock is my cousin too?
No one's a cousin with Sherrod, I don't believe.
Nobody. I don't think so.
That's crazy.
It's, what would you say?
It's black speak
What is it? You know everyone's cousins black us up blue is that is that a thing?
Everybody's a cousin
Is it cut so it's what's up? It's my cousin
We need to say you'd say your cut for sure if you had a best friend in a black neighbor if you grew up and
Your best friend it was like two dudes. You would just probably say they would say that always through high school remember that they go oh so and so are cousins you find there's no relation at all they're just like their
families are friends and they're the two dudes that hang out together I've heard
that happen a lot like mom's best friends kids will be cousins I've caught a
lot of people aren't an uncle that are not on uncles you know Lou will you
start referring to me as your cousin when you do this?
Me to people? Yeah. Thanks.
I got your cousin. Thanks.
You know, it's my cousin, Bobby Kelly.
What's up, cuz?
You know, Bobby Kelly, can we all because, you know, you got my cousin.
You know, cuz Christine Evans, you know, my cuz cuz cuz Evans.
Yeah, I just thought it was interesting because I've never in my eyes.
Every time I see him, it was I'm in one night
shit
Was a charade was hosting and then it was Chris Rock
I was getting bumped and then Tony went up and they all I remember at the end Tony grabbed the mic stand and
Just slammed it down. This is Rock's house
And I was like, that's fucking
Tony did?
Yeah, because they just, all three just murdered,
you know what I mean?
And then I went up and I fucking murdered.
I went, this is Kelly's house,
which is one of the silliest things I've ever done.
Hell yeah.
I went, this is Kelly's house,
and the crowd went, wow, and I was like, yeah.
And I was like, that was stupid, I shouldn't have did that.
That large block of time in my life,
the clubs, like seven nights a week in the clubs,
is it's so funny how like, it feels like high school away.
It was.
But I'm saying, but it feels like that far,
like, you know, I was like, was it high school?
Was this a phase?
But leaving those comedy clubs on a weekly basis
is such a phase that I didn't even see myself getting out of.
It just becomes one day, you're like,
oh, I don't know any of these new names of people.
I've become like an old veteran
who I don't know any of these people.
The best analogy I ever heard was from Louis,
and he said comedy is school.
You start out in, you know, first to sixth sixth grade and then you go to eighth and
Seventh and eighth and then you're in high school and then you become a professional and that's college
Do you know what's great about a high school girl comedians? What's that? Is that I get older and they say the same age
Alright, alright, alright
Christine all right all right. And I go, what's my dad doing in the club? Christine. Yeah, it's weird, it's just weird.