The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly - Who Is Jacques Pepin?
Episode Date: August 16, 2024Jacob is enraged that no one knows his favorite chef-Jacques Pepin. To prove his lack of culinary fame, Jay & Bob phone their moms, they call chef Nikki Dinki, and Black Lou hits the streets of NYC to... see if anyone has heard of Jacques Pepin. Christine offers up many other celebrity chefs that are more famous than this Frenchman. Jay has a horrible Uber experience and really wants a penny-farthing. *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolfSubscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts to listen to new episodes ad-free and a whole week early.
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And now the bonfire with Big Jay Okerson and Robert Kelly
You tell DJ lose but listen to a lot of summer barbecue mixes on
streaming services
off of instagrams where I see black black people having a good time public
Want to go to that barbecue you You just blew Black Lou's mind.
You're not welcome at it, Lou.
I can be.
You can be.
We're not welcome at Black Lou's party.
Oh, yeah, we're not welcome.
We're not welcome.
Well, we know.
We know you have to make room for two now.
Welcome back, dude.
I'm glad you're back.
Thank you.
I missed you yesterday.
I know.
Well.
I missed you.
Timelines are off, though.
This is Thursday. Thursday, yes, sorry. We can say all this. We said all this on Tuesday. Well, I missed you. Timelines are off, though. This is Thursday.
Thursday, yes, sorry.
Fuck.
We said all this on Tuesday.
We said it on Tuesday.
I know this is a toughie.
On the full disclosure, our first show this week,
Me and Bobby Together, is this right now,
which is coming out Thursday.
Thursday.
You're listening to this on a Thursday.
And me and Bobby have so much to catch up on.
So much. So everyone's very familiar
Already at this point with my crazy big news
But I can't tell it now and then you guys know it because you know it, huh?
Because they know it they already know it and they already know my big news and they already know your big news also
Yeah, we have such big news, but you already heard it. You already heard it and that's the Terminator timeline
That's the paradox we live in
Huh? Yes, I heard it Tuesday live. Oh, yeah live you heard a lot. You already know my big news
You already know my big news, but you don't know it yet
Terminator timelines, right? But you know, this is Kyle Reese being born
Not knowing that his very father is, or John Connor being born,
not knowing that his father's from the future.
See what I'm saying?
Got it.
This is big.
I'm about to find out what I already know.
You already know?
What you already know.
I'm gonna find out what I already know.
Yeah.
Yes.
Right now, in the world, as we speak,
when people are listening to this,
anyone this is touching,
they and you are already very aware. Very aware aware I haven't come back in time no no
no no yet no but in a little bit we're gonna go but in a few hours yeah you'll
be past what this moment and we'll be there and then you'll know it's a lot to
take in yeah in a few hours you'll be past this moment Which is not happening until Thursday, right? Yes, and we're gonna be you will be
Two days ahead of the game with knowing nothing right now, but as we speak
To the people you've known this for days. Yeah, they already know what a silly bitch you were when you came into the studio and the outrageous
They are already where you said they've already aware of that. Yeah when you came in super slow no
Jacob right now knows knows that already. Yeah, you already know Jacob that knows it and we all know that you
You are all about that. You're you're capable of saying the gayest thing that's ever been said. Yes on planet Earth
I'm so happy to see I'm so happy to see all you guys,
and I'll tell ya, cause...
I'm happy to see you.
You don't know how happy I'm seeing you.
You know how happy I am.
Lou knows how happy I am to see you.
Yeah, you're very happy to see me.
Jacob knows how happy I am to see you.
You're very happy to see me.
I'm so happy, I'm looking across at you right now.
Yeah?
Yes.
Okay.
Because...
I guess on Tuesday we probably talked about
the craziness of Monday, and I'm already aware
of that even though I don't know it now.
I'm just glad that you have your headphones on and that you listen.
Yeah.
I do listen.
You listen.
Yeah.
You're a listener.
Well, that's how a conversation goes.
That's how a radio should go.
You listen, while I speak and I listen while you speak.
Yeah.
And we all listen.
Sure.
Yeah.
And I'm glad that's back in the show. And sometimes there's gotta be like a give and take
where it's like someone starts talking
but someone else has a thing,
and you gotta time yourself in rhythms.
Yeah.
You didn't have that, huh?
I had, I mean, well, you know.
We already talked about this on Tuesday.
We already talked about it,
we already know, so let's just move on.
But I can tell you something that happened today
that is not time sensitive in any way,
that I can tell you is, happened today that is not time sensitive in any way, that I can tell you is,
at this point in my life, Uber drivers are the thing that most get me
fired up in the world,
where I just can't understand what it is they're doing.
Almost every other day that I'm coming to work,
I call an Uber and it says it's gonna be here
in three minutes for seven minutes and
because most of the time you're just counting like it must be seven light
changes before this guy because what they do is they accept it and they go
take a piss somewhere inside of a store and grab something and then they could
like they're not in a rush doesn't matter that it says one minute away on
your thing they clearly stop and do shit after they take the call.
And then they go and they never,
they think we're across the street from where we are a lot,
even though it's definitely, the address is correct.
And then it's me and Christine.
I'm losing my, I'm screaming across a four lane street.
Do you know what I mean?
I'm screaming across.
So we all know where the street is because of Christine.
Just Google it right now. You can see the street he's talking about.
But I'm screaming across a four-lane street.
Like, I'm like, sir! Turn the fuck around!
He has to U-turn the way he comes to get to us.
And he just seems, he looks everywhere but me.
And then there's a zillion cars coming.
And I gotta run across. I almost kick this fucking car today?
I pounded it with my fist for sure you hit the guy's car. Yes
Absolutely, and you had to get in it. Yep. What are you saying? We first got in said, how are you guys doing?
I said a bit frustrated. How are you guys doing? What a dope
He just kept that like pleasant demeanor while he fucked up left and right which is almost more irritating
He pulled out in the car
And I'm like sir like we're in a rush and like we're screaming at you the address across the street always
And he goes oh, oh yeah, and then he just starts driving and this guy is driving you thought the conversation
You thought you're gonna change him with words
Do this was a straight-up fucking shalhoub and quick change dude this guy was with the hard though
and
so then he goes and he gets on we get on 7th Avenue, which what we come down to
Get here and as we're coming down 7th Avenue. He's just I mean when the roads open
He's topping out at 12 15 miles an hour
Oh really and you're just like at him, catch these lights.
We all have to go, it's like seven blocks.
Yeah.
Please, sir, move this thing.
And then he's getting in lanes where there's a car turning
while everyone's passing on the right.
I'm rarely, I'm not, you know,
I'm not combative like that at all or confrontational.
And I mean, I was just like, dude, you have to be kidding.
Like you're the slow, you're the slowest driver I've ever seen.
You did it, you said it.
Oh yeah, he goes, he goes, hey, it's Manhattan.
I go, right, move.
Stop standing in every single fucking line you get.
It's crazy.
I have, I can solve your problem right now.
Move and drive in.
You want me to solve your problem?
What, yes?
Tandem bike.
Me and Christine on a two person bike.
Yep.
Like couple men twins.
Tandem bike, you keep it out in the little lobby
in your place, I see them, they have a bike spot.
Every day you get on the tandem bike,
you put Christine on the front, you get on the back,
so she does most of the hoofing.
No, no, no, well, I like that.
I like that she would hoof.
Yeah.
But I think I'd have to do the hoof.
I think you both do the hoof,
but only one handlebars does anything, right?
Uh, the front handlebars, yeah.
The other one's just holding on.
Yeah.
Yeah, so just kick back.
Get a little basket for your bags.
You can put your bags on the back.
Your Starbucks.
Should we get the three-person one?
No, just hear me out just in case.
It's one of those days where you're gonna drive
and park by my place and we come to work together.
You might do that, or Paco is over at your house.
Paco, maybe.
Maybe coming in.
Okay, now, here's what I'm thinking.
You think they'd keep that in our bike garage, Christine?
Yeah.
I don't know if it'd fit.
You keep it right down in the garage garage.
They'll keep it down there for you.
Yeah.
Throw them an extra 50 a month.
Just by the way, Christine, that one there particularly, and I don't know why, it looks
gay.
Can you get a more masculine three-person bike?
What the tail green, the seafoam green one?
Yeah, it really is like a...
I like it has the little backs on it, though.
I do like that.
The little pink backs?
Oh, would I love to see you guys just whipping around the city on a nice tandem.
Or, Christine, we can buy a penny farthing, maybe. One of those gigantic wheeled small wheel bicycles.
Where we have to get on it with some kind of a ladder.
From 1910?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's great.
A penny farthing.
Hey, how much is it to park a penny farthing per hour?
Yeah.
There you go.
But it's only for one person.
Christine, can you see if there's a tandem penny farthing?
I don't think they made a tandem penny fight, but you get to
Get two penny farthings yet. Get a big one for you and get a smaller one for Christine. What's a small penny farthing?
Tandem penny farthing. Oh my god. Oh
Please get that
Please get it
I got a house, I would absolutely get a tandem Penny Farthing just to have it
and see if we could do it.
He keeps saying Penny Farthing.
It's going to be stuck in my head.
Yeah.
Well, you have to get a Penny Farthing.
How did you whip Penny Farthing out?
How did you get that reference?
That's what the big wheel small wheel bike's called.
A Penny Farthing.
Is that the guy who made it?
Penny Farthing?
No idea what the story is.
Dr. Penny Farthing.
He was a dentist.
And then he came up with this idea to get to work quicker.
Hello.
Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Penny Farthing is that the guy who made it Penny father no idea what the story is dr. Penny father
He was a dentist look, okay, then he came up with this idea to get to work quicker
Hey guys, how about an extremely inconvenient impossible bike to get on?
You get something that's worse than a horse
What do you want some head in the middle of show what you guys done you want to give you some head?
It all I heard was head.
Yo, give me some head.
That'd be hard if they started just...
The name came from the British penny and farthing coins.
The penny being much larger than the farthing,
so that the side view of the bicycle
resembles a large penny, the front wheel,
and leading a smaller farthing, the rear wheel.
So penny, farthing.
So your penis would be a farthing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I have a farthing penny.
It thickens at the top.
A penny farthing penis is a great description of a wiener.
He goes, the front's real fat, base is thin.
I'm so glad you're back.
We would have never got to a penny farthing conversation.
Oh, no, that's not it. Rich Voss definitely probably wrote a Penny Farthing conversation.
Oh no, that's not it.
Rich Voss definitely probably wrote Penny Farthing in school.
A what?
He kept his...
I have a Penny Farthing.
When he kept his school books in a belt.
Me and Bonnie ride around in Penny Farthing.
No, I love Bonnie.
I love her.
Christine.
Oh, you need those pants.
You need those...
Some director pants?
Yeah, the pants that go out in the hips.
Yeah.
And then taper down and tuck into your argyle socks.
My argyle socks, for sure.
That'd be a good look for you.
Oh, Christine, we could definitely do this.
I've never understood the concept of the design of this bike and why it ever existed.
It's terrifying.
It's a penny frothing.
You need somebody to...
Why do that?
You had to be up and away from the wolves and the Indians.
Really, I think this is a unicycle with a penny farthing behind it, is what it looks like.
Because they do not seem to be... Go back to that video.
Nothing happened, but they seem to not be... Oh, is there a video of it going bad?
Yeah, there we go. Because I will say for sure, the front, they're not together.
Like they're just connected by a pole it seems like,
but it's like a, instead of the unicycle on a bike.
I like that you need somebody to start you.
You need a third person for the two people bike.
Yeah, it's like the Hindenburg, you can't just land that.
Christine, what if we get it really good?
Oh, you guys have professional penny fathers?
And everyone's gonna be like, what is that?
And they go, oh shit, it's big J and Christine going to work
You don't think that you become a New York staple
People just every just Japanese people have you met the penny farthing to they're in Times Square always
Me and Christine are here always. Oh, yeah, we're here for work early. We've been penny farthing in Times Square for people. It's pretty great.
And they did penny fathering when they had no roads, like on dirt roads.
For sure. Which is that's, that's pretty, that's pretty ballsy penny fathering.
Well, I'll tell you what's ballsy. You ever seen the, was it Jackass 2?
One of the Jackasses do the Jackass penny farthing.
We started doing like ramp tricks and stuff. It's crazy.
On a penny farthing? Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it jackass penny farthing we started doing like ramp tricks and stuff crazy on a penny father yo yeah yeah I think it's called penny farthing like ramp or something look at that
Cristina fine so the first the guy in the back has to get off first and then
the other one just run hope to bet for the best alright that guy did it pretty
smooth yeah he's a professional penny father. That guy definitely is a penny farther, is a penny
farther. Father? Penny farther. They judge it on a success by how long you can actually stay on this
thing. It's like a mechanical bull. Yeah, for sure. It's a mechanical bull. Me and Christine made it
about two miles to the seven miles to work before we ate shit hard. And then he goes, Christine's in the ICU.
I just dinged up a little bit.
But turns out it's just a unicycle attached
to a penny farthing.
You guys just wailed down that street right into the West
River, the Hudson.
Yeah, yeah.
He goes, Christine, please, you're
not controlling your side.
Yeah, here it is.
That's it.
There's a couple different videos.
Do this one here.
No, do the top one.
OK. Bicentennial BMX. Now it's time for a little bicentennial BMX-y. your side yeah here it is that's it
bicentennial BMX
so you have to step on the... oh they have a little pedal you step on to get up
still man I want a penny father oh yeah that looks. It does look fun. I tell you what, I wouldn't do ramps on it.
And they eat shit. Hard.
So they're going around a parking lot on Penny Fathers?
Penny Farthings.
Farthings?
They have top hats on too. This is great.
Is that a snowbank?
Yeah, and they just do things that are ridiculous to do on this.
Right into a snow bank.
Oh, over the snow bank, into the cement.
How different could that have gone?
That's what I love about Jackass.
What did you think was going to happen?
I think he thought he was going to go into the snow.
You didn't land it.
Actually, one of my favorite things is when they do, when the guy, the jackass, when he does the upside down
like mouth and he's like a Viking thing or something
and he has the scorpion, the scorpion pinch,
Kristen you looked that up,
and he has the scorpion keep stinging him in his face.
Is that the girl?
Chris Pontius, no it's the part two.
It's Chris Pontius and then he gets up
and he starts saying ow a lot and he gets up
and he's got the thing all on his chin like like the character, do you remember this, Lou?
And he's like, I'm over it, man, it sucks.
This thing was stinging the shit out of me.
And then there's one of them, I don't know if it's Steve-O
or something, he goes, what did you think it was gonna be?
The whole bit was that you're gonna get stung by a scorpion
while you're doing this.
He's like, it sucked, man, I'm over it.
Yeah, that's the plan.
Well, I think you'll solve your problem if you get a penny father a farthing farthing
Yeah, I'll be a penny farther at that point
This is great
This is like stand-up comedy in Amsterdam by the way
They would sell out a theater with this absolutely an upside-down chin face
I actually did a show with a guy who did this for a half hour look sour beast
It's just an upside-down chin with Google eyes I've long awaited this blood orgy
To the grass
It's just staying in them over and over what He breaks character completely?
Got me good a lot. You got bit and stung, submission accomplished. I'm fucking pissed. What'd you think was gonna happen?
I know, so.
It's just, he even had to look like that, yes.
Yeah, yes.
I wish they had it, it blurs out.
I know, it's like, I'm fucking pissed.
And they did it to the girl too, but the girl just took it.
You had the Botox one with Rachel.
Oh, Rachel Wolfson.
Yeah, she did it, it was, ah, it was gross.
Oh, that one's better.
Now, Scorpion, isn't it venom?
Am I crazy?
Isn't that bad?
I think maybe you can get them non-venomous,
or take the venom out of it first, maybe.
I don't know.
I don't know the answer.
I'm making pure guesses in the wind here.
But I'm vamping, figuring someone's going to look it up.
I will take that second one.
I think the bigger ones are not as
poisonous as the small ones, right? Some are summer poisonous most things are not fatal to healthy adults
over of the roughly
1,750 scorpion species in the world what why would if there's a god why would he make such evil?
Only 25 are considered lethal to humans are so you just got to play the odds that it's not one of the
1,725 Only 25 are considered lethal to humans. All right, so you just got to play the odds that it's not one of the 1725
Bobby I'm glad you brought because it also reminds me of a mushroom picking wild mushroom picking
What Jacques Pepin will go mushroom picking I would die if I went I'm sorry. How do you know?
I'm sorry real quick who one of my one of my heroes Bobby's unaware of this
So if you could wait me you one of your guys you have another guy you
Have oh, he's got a guy in almost every genre
He's got his uh he's got his like sissy bowtie guy. Yeah, this is his uh yeah the guys or you know
What is his face the guy?
Guy he's got and this guy Bowtie guy. He's got a, and this guy's his pan guy, I believe.
Jacques Papin is one of the most,
I would say the most renowned celebrity chef.
Right, but he has the best pans also, right?
No, he doesn't.
He doesn't make pans?
No, he's a real chef.
Is that the guy who's like long, kind of long hair?
Older Frenchman.
But he's an asshole?
He's kind of a jerk?
No.
Kind of angry?
No, he's almost like the sweetest guy.
Kind of trans?
Oh, sweetest.
85 now?
Damn, you love gay guys doing stuff.
Jacques Pepin.
You know Jacques Pepin.
Well, here's something you said like,
oh no.
There's so many celebrity chefs
that are way more famous than him.
So I don't know how you're saying that he's like
the most popular. That's not true at all.
It is true.
It is true because we're- No, he's the most famous
celebrity chef.
No, maybe he's the best of knowing,
but as far as like civilians who aren't into this,
knowing his name.
There's no way you're right about that.
Rachel Ray, Wolfgang Punk.
Bobby Flay.
Bobby Flay.
Rachel Ray is not even a chef.
Hell, she was.
She's a-
Jacob, Jacob, Jacob.
You watch the Food Network.
That's where you know these people from.
Gordon Ramsay's more famous than Jacques Papin.
Very famous.
Not as famous as Jacques Papin.
Far more famous.
Are you crazy?
Do you know what famous means?
This is crazy.
Yes, I do.
He's been doing television since 1950.
I know who he is.
I'm not talking about renowns.
I'm not talking about renowns.
That's ridiculously untrue.
I'm talking about famous.
Jacob, Jacob, you gotta back down.
You have to back down on this one.
No.
Jacques Papin.
But he just retired from doing television shows maybe.
Listen, listen to me, listen to me.
10 years ago, I'm 47, I only hold the name through you ever.
I want you to say.
And I know Bobby Flay, I know Mario Batali.
Do you know Bobby Collins?
No.
Exactly.
At one point.
Which means he's not.
One of the famous funniest show
comic everybody was named.
Rich Faust must have pissed you off. Fucking Bobby Collins catching some shrapnel. You heard of Bobby Collins?
No, you haven't. He was famous at one point. This probably hurts him to hear.
I thought you were talking about a chef named Bobby Collins.
Comedian, yes. I thought you were talking about a chef named Bobby Collins.
I'm just saying at one point, you know what I mean?
At one point, it was a big deal.
And he's not a big deal anymore.
He's done.
You're not your own.
What I'm saying is Jean-Paul Payne is the Alou Belle
of celebrity chefs.
Is he famous in France?
Is that what you're saying?
No, the world.
He's more famous here than...
Okay, we're talking about American fame.
Yes.
Real fame.
Yes.
Absolutely untrue.
This is crazy.
There's no way.
I bet if you polled people, nobody would know who he is.
Most people.
Most people would not.
But do you think if you went to 10 people on the street
and asked them to-
He doesn't have an ABC show where he interviews people.
That's not a chef to me.
You're making the same argument, though.
You're making the argument against yourself.
He's not the most famous celebrity chef by far.
He might be the best.
No, I would say he's the most famous chef of all time
next to Julia Child.
In your house.
Dude, no way.
It's just not true.
If you went out and were like,
do you know Gordon Ramsay?
Do you know Jacques Papan?
How many people do you think would say yes and no to that?
Gordon Ramsay would say Jacques Papan is more famous.
Buddy, this guy is not famous.
He's not the most famous person now.
Is there any way to get to the show
where you can go outside on the streets and ask people?
How do we get you?
We're on the phone.
We just call on the phone?
FaceTime.
No, no, he calls on the hotline.
Ask Nicky Dinky who's more famous.
Let's get Nicky Dinky on the wall.
You're asking for Jacques Pappin.
Listen, I say David Tell's the best comic of all time,
but if you say he's the most famous, he's not the most famous. No, this is different though,
because he has done a bazillion series. But he's not, he might be the best. I'm not saying the best,
I'm saying he has the biggest body of television work. But he's not anymore. It's over.
Everything comes to an end, buddy.
He's not the guy anymore.
He might be.
I still think he's, as far as being the most renowned chef.
How many people outside does Lou have to go to?
His name is iconic.
I got you.
But how many people on the street
does Lou have to go to to ask if they know Gordon Ramsay is
and if they know who Jacques Papan is before you see the difference before you will concede to this
We just want to have a number. I guarantee if you go, do you know Jacques?
What's his name Jacques Papan Jacques Papan? What does Jacques Papan do?
I think you're actually bullshitting me that you don't know him.
Buddy, what?
You've never you've never heard of Jacques Papan in your life.
Jacob, look at me. I when you brought up his photo I go I remember him doing stuff do I know what he cooked do I know what he's famous for
absolutely not but I do know who he is now that you showed me a picture but you
don't even have to show me a picture he's not even more famous than Tony Luke
of Philadelphia's Tony Luke's you don't have to show me a picture of Gordon
Ramsey you have to show me a picture of Gordon Ramsay. You don't have to show me a picture of Anthony Bourdain.
Bobby Flay.
Oh, Anthony Bourdain.
You think he's more famous than Anthony Bourdain?
Anthony Bourdain, you cocksucker!
I mean, Jesus, somebody likes Anthony Bourdain.
There was no reaction about Anthony Bourdain because he's not here anymore, but he's so
famous.
Yeah, Anthony Bourdain did an hour interview with Jacques Pepin, his idol.
Showing people who he was.
He's not the guy now. He was the guy. did a hour interview with Jacques Pepin, his idol. Showing people who he was? No, Christine.
He's not the guy now.
He was the guy.
But right now, he is not the most famous.
It's at the Actors Studios guy.
His hero is Gérard Chappal-Pépin's fucking list
of questions.
No one knows who that guy is.
The guy from Studio, was it James?
James Earl Jones.
Nope.
Lipton.
James Lipton is far more famous than Jacques Paltier-Pinpon,
the guy who has the list.
I'm not saying to chefs this guy isn't a guy,
but fame is a different thing.
Right.
Do you know what I mean?
Fame's a very different thing.
We have Nicky Dicky on line one.
Great.
Here we go.
But set this up right.
Ask her who he is.
She knows.
She knows.
I don't know.
She's into baking.
This guy's into a bunch of other bullshit.
Yeah, he's into some duck shit.
Nicky, you on the line?
Hey, yo, yo.
What's up?
What's up, Nicky?
Celebrity super chef Nicky Dinky.
I'd say the world's most known celebrity super chef,
but Jacob would disagree.
I would say the hottest, too.
Definitely the hottest.
Hottest.
Oh, wow, guys, I'm so glad I called in today.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're doing like a Howard Stern thing.
Sit on your speaker, Nikki.
And I'm just going to blblblblblbl.
No, we're in an argument with Jacob here.
Jacob got pretty passionate about this unnecessarily,
but now we're stuck in it.
I'm arguing with Christine also,
who admits she has five recipes that she cooks.
Yeah.
She's not into cooking.
You're not into cooking.
That's not what we're talking about.
We're talking about fame.
That's almost the point.
That's almost the point we're saying.
I still say he's more famous.
So, okay, ask Nikki.
Nikki, I'm sure you do,
I have to assume you know who Jacques Papin is?
Yes.
Okay.
Jacob's argument is that he is...
Who is he?
Who is he then?
Wait a second.
I've heard that tone before.
Who is he?
He's a famous French chef.
Okay.
He's on the older side.
He's in his probably... 80s.
70s, 80s even, yeah.
I think he was 85.
Yeah, oh, why did I get good?
Now, what Jacob's argument here, Nikki,
is that Jacques Pepin is the most famous chef
in the world, like ever.
And that's just, fame it.
The word famous is crazy to
put it that way right we're talking he's talking right now right this I'm not
saying the most successful he's saying the most famous right now oh I said he
would retire now I said he would been retired don't back go ahead all right
stay on your your what?
He's definitely well known.
But when I think about famous like notoriety, my mom would know who he is.
You know, yeah, like her mother, her mother.
Five years younger than you, Jacob.
Yeah. Yeah. She said Julia child Bobby Flay
Who's the guy bam
Bam emerald
Yeah, I don't think he's as famous now what do you I think he does an infomercial show now for his cuz he's famous
He's famous. Because he's famous.
And he can sell shit.
How about Ron Popeel?
Yeah, he can sell a coaster on him.
Let me ask you a question.
Do you think I have an infomercial for my flanker idea?
Not yet.
No.
And when I become famous, I will.
You sure will.
I don't know what to tell you.
In my world, he's still the best.
He's still what I want.
That's what I thought you were saying.
That's not the question.
In your world,
There's a lot of things. means nothing. question. In your world, it means nothing.
In your world, you like in the world.
In the world of cooking, I think he's the most revered.
She's a professional cook.
Nikki, do you think he's a professional chef?
Nikki, would you?
Now I'm talking skill-wise.
Are you putting Mario Batali, anyone you named over to that?
Jacob, this is completely void of the argument wouldn't
Yeah, you I mean you said famous so I think the actual famous notoriety which is for a variety of reasons
Yeah, you committed hard to famous Jacob. That's why I was telling you that
Just take the hit
Why are you because I still since you simp everywhere simp?
Louis simps everyone does these things you take it too hard. I still see him everywhere. So to me he's still famous
Yeah, this is Jacob's algorithm your simp is infectious
This is the Jacob YouTube page. Yeah, this is Jacob's algorithm.
Your simp is infectious.
Do you know that your page is designed for you,
and other people see different things?
Jacob, do you know that this is how insurrections happen?
Because you get bad news all the time,
and next thing you know, you're storming the Capitol
saying that fucking Juckey's Pepin is the best.
Juckey's Pepin is the best.
I want Juckey's Pepin.
I've said this before, if a woman me as as well as YouTube. Mm-hmm
I don't know if that's possible, but it will be a few years dude when AI gets there. You'll be fucking your phone
Here's the thing. It's it your you your coming. You should have said your world in your world
Women's soccer is a big thing right the world, but there's a reason I wouldn't say that no
But there's a reason Jacob why you can buy a front-row ticket for 15 bucks to the most biggest fucking
event I saw I wouldn't push that I will back down on that yeah why you can run
on the field and get a signed jersey during the game why no one cares if you
attack one they won't take away your season tickets because they need people
in the seats yes Jacob the word famous was your mistake there the most revered I wouldn't have even argued oh maybe I'm doing cumulative because I
know he's got more television series than anyone else that's what I was no
one's seen I bet all of his shows together if you put together every
person who's watched a shock the pan 60 years of 60 years of television I
promise you viewership is less than two episodes of
Hell's Kitchen yeah you're talking about you're like PBS three channels
currently like five shows on network is his shows mostly on PBS it's most
true Nikki's own PB public broadcasting you think is the most famous person in
the world not come up in the Jacob feed look at this look at this on Jacob this is a new rule in the building? Bobby Floyd does not come up in the Jacob feed. Look at this set that he's on.
Jacob, this is a new rule in the building.
I need you to take a lap around the building and then come back in.
Whenever a crazy shit gets said,
you gotta go out, take a breath,
and take a walk. This could happen to anybody in the building.
Bobby might have to go take a breath at one point.
This all started because of mushroom picking.
Alright, you're right.
You twisted my mushroom pick up.
It was about mushroom picking
and then he twisted it into.
You said the great Jacques Pepin
and Bobby never heard the name before
and I only sort of remember,
most of it I thought was a guy who made pans
but it's because his name is Pepin.
And so I was wrong about that.
But I know it's a chef you like and Bobby's never heard it.
And I wanna say something, you kinda came at me
like you don't know who he is.
Nobody does.
I don't agree with that at all.
Nikki, do you think he's that unknown?
I mean, I think they're being over-
She said her mother wouldn't know who it is.
I know.
I don't think he's that unknown, but I also
get to look at recent.
No, I said my mother would not know.
Would not know.
And I'm going to say this.
I think we have to look at recent years.
Maybe 20 years ago
Nick you just got Jacob burned I want to make sure you heard it
She said his insult was like oh and then I guess her mom just watches the Food Network then well
That's what she said
Yeah, not Jacob not Jacob Jacob. Jacob goes to.
He goes deep cuts.
I don't consider that a cooking channel.
Jacob has a VCR.
Whoa, Jacob's standards are high.
Yeah, Jacob goes in the dark.
Jacob gets his recipes off the dark web.
I watch cooking shows, not competition cooking.
Jacob has to get his VCR out and his old tapes
to watch his cooking shows.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. And he like recorded over other things that pop up in between episodes.
Yeah, he's got the tabs pulled off but he put tape over it so he can get more episodes.
An episode of Chips comes in the middle of his show. And he's making an omelet. Wow, he's really fancy.
Dude, this guy rules. It looks like a great omelet. It's just Jacob, like, what are you talking about?
I love Ani DeFranco.
She's on lists for greatest guitars.
I would never argue that she's like the most famous.
Like, that's crazy.
And she's more famous than Jacques Papan.
I believed it.
So what, do you want me to take it back?
Yes.
Yes.
Take it back.
Jacob, you have to see.
It does feel like you've been driven wrong.
Oh my God, Jacob.
You gotta learn to take a hit I don't it's a bizarre personality trait it's weird
She said anything wrong. Yeah, I guess that's not true in your world. Say your world not the world
He is not the most famous chef in your world. We will accept anything
Unicorns exist you whatever you know in your world. I'm gonna go on that
I say Bobby me coming from the perspective is I will not accept you think unicorns exist.
I will admit on air right now that Bobby Flay is way more famous celebrity judge, competition judge.
I'll say this. Bobby Flay is leaps and bounds more famous famous for judging competition the jock yes I
didn't know wait Jacob I got interrupt you Bobby play the friend of mine I know
he can cook what does he do more I know he is well I've actually I like his
cooking does he do more okay competition shows? Oh, you backpedal for that?
He's in the 80s on TV.
He's making a million, gives millions of dollars.
But there's a difference between cooking and competition.
He's an Iron Chef, dude.
Bobby.
Or I'm sorry, Bob.
His most popular show, he actually
competes on cooking every episode.
So he does host it, but he's also competing cooking.
Beat Bobby's Play.
I think they've shot 700 episodes.
And this frog doesn't have his own restaurant chain.
Not anymore.
No, he doesn't have a chain.
Never.
Never.
So Bobby has restaurants now in Vegas,
but he's not doing a New York restaurant.
Gordon Ramsay has a Michelin star restaurant.
Yes, he's very good.
House Kitchen is one of the best meals I've ever had in my entire life.
You're talking about a guy who made an omelet kind of cool
I'm not debating Gordon Ramsay's not famous. No, no, no
What you're debating is the level of fame for sure in the world you could say this is mean so much to you
It's crazy what you're saying, we don't care
You really pressing this no no because no, forget the chef argument itself.
It's a weird character trait that you don't just have like a, yeah, I may have overstated
that a little bit.
Watch this, watch this.
This is it.
Jay, unicorns exist.
I saw them up in the Katona when I went to my new house.
No, I'm sorry.
They're completely mythical.
It's made up.
It was probably just somebody, but somebody may have stuck a horn
on the head of a horse or something.
You know what, I didn't even think of that.
You're probably right.
That's stupid.
You know what?
Thanks, brother.
You're right.
You're probably right.
Thank God you said that before I said that
in front of more people and looked like a real lunatic.
That's the simple as that.
If you wanted to, we can cut this whole section out
so no one has to hear you say that bat shit statement
that Jaha Hameen is more famous than Bobby Flay or Gordon Ramsay everyone. Here's the weather. I'm saying the more
Everyone I said I can name
Seven to ten celebrity chefs. I didn't know Jacques Pepin until you said it. Yeah, I
See, I'm also judging like what what the shows you're talking about. You're saying a lot of competition shows
Celebrity you chef is a title. They don't let people who do competition shows unless they're a good chef
Right, then you have to be a great chef. You don't get into the Olympics
People have to respect the chef
Yes, and they get a show where they're doing something on TV where people find it entertaining because they're making
the chef. Yes, and they get a show where they're doing something on TV where people find it entertaining because they're making bazillions of dollars doing it. Of course. Yeah. Who
doesn't understand that argument was never who's a better chef. It's who's more famous.
Right. That's the argument. Yes. Well, I was going by the Jacob feed. I don't get any of
these people. So what? It's a fame game. You think Nikki Dink you wanted to go on? When
you wake up, her father was a Nazi sympathizer, like Kevin Spacey.
Jacob YouTube algorithm, that's all that comes up.
It's catered to you.
Yeah, it's your thing.
Dude, you know what comes up in my mind?
Do you know how the internet works yet?
Yeah.
Dude, I have Bushcraft, wrestling, and trans stuff
come up on my thing.
Do you think when everybody goes to Pornhub right away,
it's three pictures of a girl taking a dump on a guy's chest? Do you think everyone sees that?
No!
Don't lose subscriptions by the millions!
It just goes to me!
You're right. You're right.
Yeah, dude, it's your feed. Your world.
Your world.
You win.
Okay, great. No, no, no.
No, wait, wait.
Sarcastic.
I said you're right.
Not with the tone.
He is nowhere near the most famous chef in the world.
No, I think we've settled it, really. Well, Jacob's just staring, he's staring blank.
Right now, 2024.
Yes, he's not.
What?
Since 2000 and whatever,
Since the internet came to be.
Since 2000 BC.
Until they got gas stoves in the house.
Until when the food network ruined cooking, yes.
So when Cable came into play, when Cable was invented?
Jacob is a real, like, I'm sorry you feel that way.
There are more than five channels.
I'm sorry you feel that way, guy, and he's dead serious about it.
You said he's more famous than Anthony Bourdain.
She's more famous than Anthony Bourdain, Mickey.
That's what he said.
No, Anthony Bourdain. Especially when someone like dies, like an artist, like their artwork is worth more. She's more famous dancing more Dain, Mickey. That's what he said you say no
Someone like dies like an artist like they like their artwork
like Really took off if he if he jerk choked himself to death. No one care
That's right. If you can get a word to what you probably can't here's the thing Jacques. My pain is not that famous
So if you DM him will probably answer and if you do
You should tell him to jerk
You should tell him to hang himself from a belt and jerk off to death and then boom he will
probably jump a few levels and be right behind Bobby Flay and Tony Luke of
Philadelphia's Tony Luke's cheesesteaks should we compare subscribers because
he has 137,000 should we see how many like Gordon Ramsaysey What do you mean it's his YouTube page yeah, that's his page
Actually, I know this your person so he even has PR on his side. Oh my god
I say who Gordon Ramsey's page
20.8 million subscribers, so it's only it's only
27 million and 999
27,999,999. Yeah.
You got it.
He's still going.
Who?
I already told you.
Okay, Gordon Ramsay, you win.
Jacob, those numbers.
You win.
I know, but those numbers are.
I don't know why you keep pushing this.
Because now I'm almost pushing the idea that no one's heard of Jacques Papain except you
and Nicky Dinky.
You're wrong.
Those numbers should be mind boggling to you.
I bet if I called four people, four out of four
would be like, I don't know who the fuck that is.
I don't agree with that.
No, good.
I don't know.
You gotta go on the streets.
You gotta take to the streets.
No, Nicky, do you think they're underplaying
Jacques Pepin's fame?
I know why you think they're not,
because in the food world, he's important
and he's a figurehead.
But the average American, unfortunately, I don't think they are under, because in the food world, he's important and he's a figurehead, but the average American,
unfortunately, I don't think they are underplaying it.
I think he's falling off of them.
Yeah.
Well, at least 85.
Tell me another stand there and paint person
besides Bob Ross.
He's the most famous one, for sure.
Bob Ross is the most famous TV painter of all times,
in our area.
I don't know another TV painter.
There you go, that's what I'm saying. So, no matter, if there was, I promise you,
there's other, like, painters who teach and blah, blah, blah.
He's the most famous, for sure.
This guy, I'm not saying, Jacques Papain might cook circles
around everybody except Nicky Dinky.
Circles around everybody out there,
and Bobby Flay, her best friend.
Besides those two, he can cook circles around all these people.
Well, Jacob, make a face. Had the Jacques Papain decide to put crushed up potato chips I'm sure she's a good friend of her. I'm sure she's a good friend of her. I'm sure she's a good friend of her. I'm sure she's a good friend of her. I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her.
I'm sure she's a good friend of her. I'm sure she's a good friend of her. I'm sure she's a good friend of her. I'm sure she's a good friend of her. I'm sure she's. Who would love a zombie? Now here's the thing, I'm so interested in this mushroom thing you were trying to bring
up.
I forgot even what we were talking about.
The gay people you like?
No, what was we...
I don't remember what...
I lost track of the topic.
Sorry, there's five guns trained at me.
I lost my train of thought.
It didn't have to be. At some point, you get it.
She'd be like, well, I guess not the most famous, but he's like a very high level,
like world renowned chef. Couldn't argue a word about that.
You argued so hard the most famous. And Christine just said, and then you get
snippy when Christine comes out. I get it. Her voice is grating.
But she came at you with the thing was a fame. And you just started arguing a moot point.
The fact that everybody in this room knows
Every of the chefs that we name it doesn't I don't watch any cooking shows none
I just know these names because they're out there in the world. They exist wolfgang puck
Like there's another like that guy's more famous than the puck and he sucks
What do you mean against?
Against jacques papin What do you mean? I know the name! Wolfgang Puck against Jacques Pepin
This is a chain of restaurants, everybody knows Wolfgang Puck
In fame? You gotta go on the streets
I will debate you on that one
Jacob, you don't know what fame means
I don't think you know what the word is
We don't either
I'll give you the TV guys
I don't know what it feels like
I'll give you the TV guys
He has a chain of restaurants I don't necessarily think that feels like. I'll give you the TV guys. He just, he has a chain of restaurants
that don't necessarily means,
how many people, how many people,
how many people on the street,
on the street, if Black Lou went out,
how many people do you think, if he has 10 people,
how many people do you think would know who he is?
Out of 10.
I don't know.
Five or six.
Q1?
Five or six. I'll bet you. I don't know who he's gonna ask. I'll't know. Five or six? Two, one, five. Five or six?
I'll bet you.
I don't know who he's going to ask.
I'll bet you.
He'll ask random people.
You say five people.
You know what?
He's got a fancy French name, so they'll probably be like,
yeah, I know who that guy is.
No, no, no.
That's what I'm saying.
Go to the most ghetto people you see.
The most ghetto.
Go to those two twins.
Take pictures with everybody against their will. No, no, no. I want an assortment against their will yeah go to that African guy sound fake Louis Vuitton's
right downstairs the guy that talks to himself the paint the guy talks to
himself right out the door all the black security downstairs and we're asking do
you know who Jacques Pepin is yep that's it and now that's it that was your and then you know and then go do you know who Gordon Ramsay is?
Just that's the most simple one Gordon Ramsay. Oh, do you want a Bobby Flay in New York?
It's a bad pie if your mother I already told you that I that I turned back
So what do you need to but I do want to know the jack the no, but now you're saying
No, how about this same? I absolutely believe Jacques Pepin is more famous than Wolfgang Puck.
Ask him Wolfgang Puck. That's the other one.
Wolfgang Puck is a brand.
It's just known dude.
What's the other guy? I don't know the other guy.
What's the one our friend worked at the restaurant?
I don't know that name either.
And it was David James? What's the fuck?
Oh, David Burke.
David Burke.
Oh, David Burke, yeah. Oh David Burke. Yeah popular restaurateur
We'll find out right now, oh he's more of a restaurateur he's not an actual chef
Let's do it. Yeah. He like judges a couple times on TV. He's a chef
Yeah, Colin. Yeah, Colin and we're gonna just call him. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry to bother you with this crazy nonsense
Calling this sorry. Thank you. I'm so sorry to bother you with this crazy nonsense
You know what though? I like feel like I suddenly had some levity in my day, and I'm like this was a weird but awesome
We're doing before this before we call we're campaigning for Trump hard. I gotta I gotta ask Nick I was getting some pants hemmed with a real exciting
Afternoon how'd they get ripped that's not with a hamming it is. Oh sorry. They were too long for me I got these wide-leg Adidas
like athletic pants but they're gonna be like hot I'm very excited about them
hey Nikki I gotta ask you to do me a favor of course Tom Papa came at me
that's right Tom Papa came at me about
You know, he's a bread guy. He's a comedian far more famous than Jacques Pepin. Yes
He has a show on serious not on faction talk the hit station
It's the other one was he on Netflix is a joke. Netflix is a joke
him in
his co-host
Fortune fortune themes very funny. I mean Tom's a good friend,
but he came at me about my bread.
And he's saying he makes a better bread than me.
And I make bread, my papa's bread, his recipe.
And he makes his bread, his sourdough, L.A., Hollywood,
everybody makes that bread bread.
When I did his show, he brought in purchased bread,
by the way.
He said he usually makes them, he didn't have time,
so he bought a nice loaf.
I would never do that.
If I had a show.
I was gonna say, just don't bring anything at all.
No, if I had a bread show, I would never do that.
But anyways, he's gonna come into town in like a month,
and he's gonna make his bread.
I'm gonna make my bread, and we're gonna need a judge.
Oh, there's nothing I'd want more than to eat your bread.
Nice.
I love for you to eat my bread.
No, but I love bread.
Do you like a yeasty bread?
I love bread, but it's probably.
Cause my bread is yeasty.
I hope she's a.
Yeah, I definitely do.
I like yeasty, I do love a little bit of chew,
if you can do it.
Mine's a little, yeah.
I like crusty on the outside, moist on the inside.
Oh God, mine's crusty.
Papa's bread is very crusty on the outside
and definitely moist. I don't want you calling it Papa's bread. It's crusty. Papa's bread is very crusty on the outside. And definitely moist.
I don't want you calling it Papa's bread.
It's my papa.
I know.
Yeah, daddy bread.
Yeah, daddy.
Daddy.
My God.
I love it.
Yeah.
What's happening?
No, that's not.
That wasn't us.
It just felt like where it was going.
That wasn't us.
She's doing her OnlyFans on the other phone.
All right.
So you'll come in and do that for us, right?
That sounds lovely. I'd love to.
Perfect, perfect.
I'll be a bread judge with you,
but I mean, if I even eat much of it,
I've been dropping LBs.
You look great.
Yeah, you might need some.
Yeah, I'd probably need a little bit of bread that day.
It'll be fine.
I'll make it a cheat day.
You are, and it's weird because as a guy who lost weight,
I've been the guy, oh dude, you look great,
you look great, now when we're together,
you have taken that, people are coming up,
dude, you look great now.
But I'll tell you what I can never take from you.
What's that?
Bread master.
You can't.
I can't, that's gonna be you all day.
Oh, look at Dinky and Wendy Williams.
Oh, remember Wendy Williams' eyes were still in her head? More veggies, please. Poor Wendy Williams. Oh, remember Wendy Williams' eyes were still in her head?
More veggies, please.
Poor Wendy Williams.
Did you watch the documentary, Nikki?
I actually haven't watched it.
I need to.
It's rough.
It's rough.
Maybe I don't.
I mean, you know, it's definitely interesting to watch,
but bad people around her.
Yeah, don't look at her feet.
I know.
Yeah, she's surrounded by just bad people.
I know some of the producers definitely talked about it on their social media and stuff and were,
you know, not like denying anything, but just it was sad. You know, I think they kind of saw hints
of that, you know. And then I want to make a montage of your greatest moments with her where
she's like spitting out your uncooked mac and cheese which was her fault or putting hot putting
hot sauce on your longtime family recipe that you take so much pride in.
Wendy I tested this recipe 40 times. My grandmother gave me this recipe on her
deathbed. She said put hot sauce on it But Wendy, it's like it's an ice cream cake.
I said put hot sauce on it.
We were.
Nikki's or anything you want to plug, I know more veggies, please.
Still available right now on your website.
Yeah, more veggies available anywhere.
And I'm going to do my own little social media test because now I'm very curious
and I love social media polls.
It's like the best thing about Instagram
is you can finally find out what people think in a heartbeat.
So people can follow me at Nicky Dinky.
They want to see a little more Jacques Poupan.
Not Poupan, Poupan.
Poupan.
Jacques Poupan.
Kind of.
Oh, man, so awful.
Yeah, nickydinkykooking.com.
You're going to come in to do the bread thing for us,
the bread test? The bread off. Yeah, that's exciting.ooking.com. You're gonna come in to do the bread thing for us, the bread test.
The bread off.
Yeah, that's exciting.
I really do love bread.
I'm actually quite a bread connoisseur,
so that's exciting.
We can do a blind or not blind.
I mean, you know.
You can say this is Tom.
Here's the thing though.
My bread is gonna look different.
I know, but you don't want Tom,
so you have to think ahead of people being,
you know, there's a lot of people
who are not willing to concede in bad sports. So you have to worry. I'm looking at this. So if
Tom happens to be like that, you're gonna get the old like, well, you know,
Nikki, she's clearly very heavily attracted to you. Well, he's gonna do
that. He's gonna do that anyways, because you know he's a drama mama. He is a drama
mama. Yeah, he's a drama mama. Well, she was planned, you know, whatever.
He's gonna come up with some excuse.
I believe she'll be impartial.
No, tell him I don't like either of you.
I'm coming in as a real non-partisan.
Yeah.
All right, well, I mean, what the hell?
He goes, Nikki, listen, she's a great judge, but I mean really unpleasant person.
She's a big Dan person.
She loved Dan, and she hates Bob.
She loved Dan, and her heart left with him.
I do love Dan.
I do love Dan.
Of course.
Has he asked you to be on Soder?
The new podcast?
No, not yet, not yet.
I'm on a, I'll hit him up.
I'll slide into his DMs.
Wow, I think it's over.
I think he's gonna do it.
It's gonna be, I think it's ending soon.
Yeah, I don't know.
Jeez, guys.
There goes that shot.
Well.
That was my big shot at fame right there.
You know you always have a third microphone here
at the bonfire.
When you're here, you're family.
Has anybody used that yet?
When bonfire, when you're here, you're family.
Ooh, we should trademark that.
You guys are a real weird family.
You like love Jacob, but you'll rip at him for 20 minutes.
It is family. I love Jacob.
It's, he's, you know.
Can I say one thing?
He lives in a bubble. I honestly think
because I this is why I defend it so strong maybe it's just the way I grew up
he was always number one. Everyone I know it's a household and he's a household
name to me. Right but now you gotta think about this. You don't know anybody. He was a household name so. In your household? You don't know anybody you don't hang out with anyone So there's no compare this to but then how would I think any different because you believe believe me because you know that
I'm why I feel the way I do because you believe household name
But here's the dolls in your mom's house that nod whenever you talk you believe because that's the only people you're surrounded by
He was the guy but you should be willing to be open to learn that the world
Yeah, dude, you're not in like a YouTube algorithm alone. Like I said, what maybe like I said, it's just the way growing up
He was the household name. Does your antenna TV only get PBS? You're like this guy is all over the TV
Dude, if I do a Brady Brent bunch reference on stage, the kids are like, what? Like, there's people in the front row,
they're like, what is that?
Yeah, but dude, he is.
His show was in the 80s.
90s probably, maybe the last was late 2000s.
Nobody watched PBS in the 90s.
Bobby, call your mom on the phone
and ask her if she knows who Jacques Papain is.
I will do the same with my mother.
Ask her if she knows who Joe Ligano is.
She doesn't know either, my mom doesn't know either of those.
Ugh, this is crazy.
I guess I also stay away from what would be a popular thing
because I detest the Food Network.
You ask her.
Your mom?
Yeah, when she comes on.
Mama Kelly?
Mom, hey, Mom?
Hi, how are you? Mom, you're live on the radio right now. How are you?
I'm good. How are you? I'm fantastic. I have a question for you. Jay's going to ask you a question. Can you just let me know if you know this person or not? Jay? Sure. Mrs. Kelly, are you familiar
with Jacques Papin? You already said it wrong. Jacques Papin? Yes. Jacques Papin?
Oh yeah, yeah.
Who is he?
Who is he?
He's a chef.
Thank you.
Your dad loved him.
Who's, you mean Larry?
Not Papa, yeah, your dad.
Right, so.
I soon got him a cookbook.
Is he famous now?
Well, he is to me.
Thank you.
In your world.
So that doesn't count anymore.
Everyone's world, everyone lives in the silo.
So let me ask you a question.
Mom.
This means, Jacob, you should be hanging out
with older women.
Mom, how old are you?
That's not a, you don't like the answer you got.
29, you know that.
You don't like the answer.
Mom, who's the most famous chef right now?
Yeah
I thought you're a Democrat
Listen is is Jacques Papan famous the most famous chef right now
Is Jacques Papan famous, the most famous chef right now?
Well, probably not right now. I like Ina Gatton and there's a whole bunch of others,
I guess.
Okay, all right, thanks mom, I love you.
I love you too, call me, I'm coming up to New Hampshire soon.
Okay, awesome, I love you.
We closed on the house, bye.
Oh, good, good, love you, bye.
Bye, good, good.
She's excited for you.
You say goodbye to Nikki?
Oh, Nikki, sorry, that was my mom.
Nikki, that was Bobby's mom.
No, it was so sweet.
I love, that was just like, I don't know,
she sounds so sweet.
I was like, aw, let's talk to her.
Now that she's off drugs.
Yeah, try living with her.
I forget that she's only a few years older than you
It's pretty wild though my mom's
She had me when she was 18. Yeah, like my dad's older than your mom
What you're calling your mom now, I'll call my mom. This is going to let you down, I think, though.
Mm-mm.
I don't know about that.
Well, my mom's 72, I think.
We grew up eating hoagies for dinner.
We should probably tell her happy anniversary.
There you go.
There you go.
You got one, but she did say not now.
Nikki, go.
Wait, should we let Nikki go?
Oh, yeah, we do.
We have to let Nikki go.
I'm sorry.
Nikki, we're holding you hostage here.
Thank you.
NikkiDinkicooking.com.
We're going to have her again very soon.
Thank you so much for making Jacob feel stupid. Bye, Nikki. Bye, Nikki. Bye,ydinkykooking.com. We're gonna have her in again very soon. Thank you so much for making Jacob feel stupid
Nikki
Hey