The Chris Cuomo Project - Chris Cuomo responds to YouTube comments about Elon Musk, mass deportations & more

Episode Date: December 26, 2024

Chris Cuomo responds to a new batch of YouTube comments and listener calls, tackling whether Donald Trump’s divisive rhetoric fuels political polarization or merely reflects existing divisions. He e...xamines the economic and societal risks of mass deportations, considers the possibility of Elon Musk running for office, and analyzes why Democrats are struggling to connect with key voters. Cuomo also addresses media bias, explores how narratives are shaped in the digital age, and challenges viewers to rethink what effective leadership looks like in a divided America. Follow and subscribe to The Chris Cuomo Project on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube for new episodes every Tuesday and Thursday: https://linktr.ee/cuomoproject Join Chris Ad-Free On Substack: http://thechriscuomoproject.substack.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:23 Visit connexontario.ca. Isn't it better to talk to somebody than about them? I agree. I'm Chris Cuomo. Welcome to the Chris Cuomo Project where we are going to take on your comments because that's the whole point of the project. The project is necessarily a collaboration here. And I put out a lot of information, a lot of perspective, a lot of takes, try to give you a kind of full mix of ideas. And often you have very strong reactions,
Starting point is 00:00:53 which I think are very helpful, not just directionally in terms of where people's heads are, but the diversity of opinion and what the trigger points are. So what do you say? Let's take some comments with the one, the the redoubtable the inimitable the falsely named Gregory odd we kicked off this last episode of comments with this falsely named thing I don't ever got to the bottom of it. There's nothing to get to the bottom of no I did lose my driver's license. So I can't really prove my identity at the moment
Starting point is 00:01:21 Does that mean anything these days? It means it's a pain in the ass to go about town when you don't have a driver's license, your credit cards are in there. Because I had just lost my credit card, so I just replaced it and updated all the numbers in my apps, but now I have to go back and do it again. I'm checking my bank account to make sure it's actually lost in my house and not on the street. Did you show your voter ID when you voted?
Starting point is 00:01:43 They did the signature match. And I was okay, but you saw the story that a lot of young people, apparently they never learned how to sign their names, so in what, Arizona, ballots were thrown out. So mine is pretty good, but again, my very short name, seven letters is just like a... It's very... Hot O-T-T. Where are the other four?
Starting point is 00:02:00 G-R-E-G. Oh. So it's a very brief signature, so I don't know, it's not that hard to verify. It's a weird stage name to pick, by the way. Actually, it was a great stage name because as a member of the Actors' Equity Association. I'm in a little trouble with the speaking English today. I didn't do my vocal warm-ups. It's all that Norwegian you've been practicing. Rit-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-ti-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a-t-a We should not be talking about me, we should be talking about you and your lovely audience because we put out there every time we do a comments episode, hey, do you have any new
Starting point is 00:02:48 comments that you would like to ask Chris? Any specific questions you'd like to get out there? And the people have spoken, we've gotten a lot of comments from the last batch of comments. Would you like to hear some? As you may know, I do. Greg picks the comments that we discuss. I don't look at the comments, I'm not aware of the comments. I don't even know if they're real comments.
Starting point is 00:03:07 But I will tell you this, I guarantee you someone's gonna take a bite out of my ass in the next set of things that he says. Yeah, I mean, that's true. But let's start things off. Nothing makes him happier. Let's start things off. Than reading somebody else's invective.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Let's start on the light roast, if we go to the dark roast, okay? Let's keep things at. Been reading somebody else's invective. Let's start on the light roast, if we go to the dark roast, okay? Let's keep things at a low simmer here. This is from Weaver B. Poo. What? Weaver B. Poo. That's the username, Weaver B. Poo. That was his second choice of stage name after Gregory Ott.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Yeah, Ott was, it was either Ott or Poo, and I went with Ott. Will you elaborate on why you feel Trump has been divisive? Volatile hate rhetoric for nine years by left-leaning media was to, in quotes, divide Americans. Two things can be true at once. Why do I think Trump is divisive? I mean, is that a rhetorical question?
Starting point is 00:04:00 I mean, the man is, has been, right? Let's be our best, okay? I don't know what he's going to be in this administration. Ordinarily, you'd say, yes, you do. You've seen the last one, but he is a shapeshifter. This guy was a Democrat. He had different ideas. Now he's on top of this populist movement
Starting point is 00:04:18 that has a lot of policies that are actually good for the top as opposed to the workers. But we'll see how he is because dispositionally, he can change almost randomly to suit whatever his interest is in that moment. But I am not having to really dig here to find examples of Trump being divisive. He has played, look, it is textbook demagoguery, okay?
Starting point is 00:04:44 He plays to people's fears, prejudices, and anger. That's what he does. Now, is some of that fear and anger, because prejudice is never justified, in my opinion, but are the other two justified? Yes, yes. Does he exaggerate some of those things? Welcome to politics. But to say, why do you say he's been divisive? Just because you agree with
Starting point is 00:05:10 everything he says. There are a lot of people who don't. And I don't think you can find me a metric that doesn't show that he is divisive. I mean the country was just split in half in the election. He won. Why? A lot of Democrats stayed home. Why? They weren't motivated by Harris. Why? They didn't like the process. They didn't like the message. Democrats usually win because of what they are for, not what they are against. And they tried to match grievance
Starting point is 00:05:32 with a grievance movement and they lost. I actually have a perfect comment to follow up on that one. This is from someone wondering one thing. Their username is either Laith of heaven or LA the of heaven. Maybe the of Heaven. I go with Laith. The Laith of Heaven. Laith is a tool. Yeah, yeah. And LA is full of tools.
Starting point is 00:05:52 That's good. See, he's very funny. Professional grade, by the way. Second city. It's not random. Laith of Heaven. I was wondering one thing. I do understand what you said about running on grievance, and that's why they lost, along with pushing certain issues on the general public. But one thing that really puzzles me is that with all the seriously heavy conservative icons like the Cheney's, including Dick, and a serious shitload of past Trump administration people and a lot of other high powered conservatives backing Harris, why did that not make a difference? Now that honestly really puzzles me. I would have thought that that would have carried a lot more weight than it apparently
Starting point is 00:06:24 did. Okay, what do all those people have in common? Oh, that's right, they're not here. It's a one-sided conversation. They are all members of the establishment. And part of the movement is to disrupt the establishment. So all of those people lose portfolio of credibility with people in the MAGA movement because they're all part of the machine.
Starting point is 00:06:52 You see what I'm saying? Trump, one of his biggest assets is that he is rejected by the establishment. He is seen as being normalized, a word that you know I have a problem with for different reasons, but he's an outsider. They're all insiders. And that's how he cast them, and it really wound up mitigating their effectiveness. This is from Patricia Melgarreo, 4059. How mass deportation will trash our economy? It's not really a question, but it's more of a, I think they're asking something.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Well, so that is a leading question, right? Because you're assuming it trashes the economy. Is that a fair premise? Trash it? No. Make prices higher? Maybe. Why?
Starting point is 00:07:39 Labor shortage. Look, we like to pretend, and by we, I mean the MAGA folks, that these people are all coming here for bad reason, right? Now, I don't believe that all MAGA people really think that. And I don't really even like calling them MAGA people. These are Americans, okay? And we got to get away from this, so why don't I start being the solution and not the problem?
Starting point is 00:07:58 Okay, I agree. Thank you very much. Now, they come here because of the opportunity. Some are coming with drugs. Some are coming with drugs. Some are coming with human trafficking. Some are coming for no good reason. Some are organizing the other ones as banditos and coyotes and other malefactors. But most overwhelmingly are coming for the jobs.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Yes, they're taking our jobs. No, they're not taking our jobs. They are taking jobs that you don't want. Now, is that absolutely true? No. Some of the jobs they take are jobs that Americans may want. Very rarely is something 100-0 in terms of the equities involved.
Starting point is 00:08:43 But overwhelmingly, they are taking jobs that are unfilled because Americans do not want them or can't live on the wages that they get paid to do them. So that's why they're coming. So what happens when they leave? You now have people in a lot of the service industries and agro business that aren't there. So what is that gonna do?
Starting point is 00:09:04 It's gonna reduce services, it's gonna make it more expensive to get things picked, sorted, packaged, delivered, cleaned, cooked, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And that will be a challenge for the economy. And that's why I don't believe that Trump does a deportation of all of them. I don't think it's possible, I don't think it's legal, I don't think that Trump does a deportation of all of them. I don't think it's possible.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I don't think it's legal. I don't think logistically it makes sense in terms of how expensive it would be. And I think morally it's a problem and I think economically would be a problem. And I think in terms of what you do to families and communities, it would be like going to war in our own borders in some way.
Starting point is 00:09:41 So I think they're gonna wind up doing a lot more than is being done right now. I think sanctuary cities have a problem. But economically, you need the labor. So how do you reconcile the two? That's the conversation we never have. Because to get elected, all I have to do is scare you and direct you that the other person
Starting point is 00:10:02 that I'm running against is part of the problem. I don't have to tell you how I'm going to solve it, or I can give you an absurd idea like I'm going to round them all up and throw them all out. Like it was a Dr. Seuss book and there's going to be a truck with a big nozzle that just like goes around the community sucking up illegal immigrants and then just spits them out back into Mexico. What an image to paint. But that's what it sounds like, right?
Starting point is 00:10:29 And that's not going to happen. That's not a thing. What people don't do is deal with subtlety, deal with solutions that are accommodations of needs. We don't do that. Why? It's weakness. I'm strong.
Starting point is 00:10:43 I'm all in. I'm 100%. That's politics. That's bullshit. And now governing is different. And there has to be a way to balance what is needed by the economy and frankly just to enrich America's potential, right? This is a nation of immigrants, and to do it legally and safely
Starting point is 00:11:03 so that people are integrated into the system, so they don't just take, they also give, and that your employers aren't getting over on them. The employers are the biggest missing piece in the argument. Because if you didn't pay them pennies of what you would pay American labor, they wouldn't be coming. And if you weren't part of the sell proposition to get them here, often even helping with money and logistics and organizing to bring them here, did you know that? Oh, well, we have the E-Verify. When's the last time you saw a big employer get raked over the coals the way Trump does raking the illegal immigrants over the coals.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Come on. They're the missing piece. There has to be an accommodation of the needs and the wants and the safety. We don't have that conversation because it's not as satisfying, but it's the only one that matters. Will we have it now? You know who it's up to, ironically? The Democrats. How can the Democrats be like, no, no, it's all about Trump. No, it isn't. No, it isn't. The Democrats have a very real role in getting a real solution here.
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Starting point is 00:16:22 and something along those lines. You didn't really talk about that. We kind of did an episode about in the zone, but I don't know, maybe talk about that broadly. Look, I don't blame Joe and Mika, the MSNBC morning people, for going to see Trump. Journalists need and benefit from access to power. And I would argue that the powerful
Starting point is 00:16:44 benefit from access to the media and having relationships and understanding each other. How can that not help? And there is no journalist who doesn't want to meet with the president-elect. All right, so that's a no-brainer. The idea that they're somehow traitorous tells you what MSNBC and a lot of partisans believe
Starting point is 00:17:02 about that place, that it's somehow wrong for them to even go. Normalizing, they're normalizing. Now, you wanna criticize them. They only started going after Trump because kissing his ass stopped working for them. How do I know? I lived it.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I was on CNN in the morning going against them on New Day. We beat them twice. First time CNN had ever done that. Why? Because while they were kissing Trump's ass and giving him a wet kiss every time he came on during his election run, we were holding him to account and other people in the race as well and the other powerful as well. And that's one of the reasons, there are a lot of other reasons we won, but then he gets in and all of a sudden MSNBC can't be the pro-Trump
Starting point is 00:17:44 police, right? So all of a sudden they MSNBC can't be the pro-Trump, right? So all of a sudden they turn on him. Now their ratings are in the tank, the guy's back despite their best efforts, so they do what works for them. They can rationalize it and be high-minded about it, but you know it's just advantage, right? So that's the fair criticism,
Starting point is 00:18:00 but I don't blame them for wanting to have access to power. And in terms of Trump forgiving his enemies, again, the guy is not burdened by principle. So that's not how he functions. It's about what works for him right now. So if you can do a deal with him, it doesn't matter that you were calling each other's mother's names five seconds ago. That's who he is. That is the upside of being unburdened by principle or any kind of code. Or I guess you could construe it as, no, his code is to just do right for the country. I didn't see that in his first term. We'll see if we see it this term.
Starting point is 00:18:33 This is not a comment, but it's related. There's the news that came out that Comcast is spinning off MSNBC and CNBC and a bunch of dying cable networks, essentially. What's your take on that? I've read speculation like, oh, what if some billionaire buys up MSNBC and changes it or whatever? Do you have any thoughts on the state of the industry
Starting point is 00:18:52 being in the cable industry and what's gonna happen to these? Because they're gonna be severed from what I understand from NBC News. And so MSNBC and CNBC out to see, not really a pun intended, but cast off to fend for themselves.
Starting point is 00:19:07 What is your understanding of why Comcast is doing it? Because there's value in the brands of a lot of these cable channels, but cable itself is not on the ascendance at the moment. So they're taking a bunch of different brands except the most valuable ones like Bravo and NBC News and all the NBC properties except for these two. And they're packaging them up into a separate company that might be big enough to acquire other companies or be acquired by somebody like Warner Brothers or something. So the idea being like, well, there's still some value in these brands in a sense of like
Starting point is 00:19:42 managed decline in the way that like, you know, a bunch of newspapers got gobbled up when that started dying off, and a bunch of TV stations and such. So it seems like some sort of way to provide the private equity to step in or for a big conglomerate to come together with all this. But yeah, that's what I think. By most estimates of industry experts, Cable's going to be making money on their subscription fees for probably 15 years. Oh my God, just to be clear,
Starting point is 00:20:07 in the thing I was reading, I think it was in, I don't know, Bloomberg or Semperfor or something, but it was like, there's still like 70 million people still paying for cable. This is not a dead industry by any stretch of the imagination. So they're spinning it off because that's what's best for their business. And all of these people who became agglomerators,
Starting point is 00:20:24 people who just kept acquiring, acquiring, acquiring, now they've got to get rid of stuff. Why? Because the carry costs are not justified by the cash flow. So you need to get rid of them. I don't think it's a political statement. I don't think it's a statement about MSNBC. I think it's just P&L and profit and loss. And that's why they're doing it. And that's business. And I don't think it means anything about that particular outlet. I think that there's absolutely an appetite
Starting point is 00:20:56 in a market in America for left-leaning political perspective, which is what they bring. So I think this is something that will be used for advantage by their critics in the media, which we love to do. People love to beat up on CNN right now because they're not doing as well as a couple of other ones, but they're certainly doing better than MSNBC.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And so let's see who buys it. But again, I see it just as business, not really a reflection of our politics or of our cultural disposition. So you're not worried that some Musk isn't gonna scoop it up to turn it into what he did with Twitter? Market decides. Musk is making X into what he wants it to be.
Starting point is 00:21:43 People will decide to be there or not be there. And other than law, that is the ultimate decider. If people want what you are putting out as a product, right, and that's what all media is, then it's good. And if they don't, then it's bad. So the market decides. That was kind of a clumsy transition to this next question from Gabe R. R8J. Will Elon run for next office?
Starting point is 00:22:11 Or I guess he means for office next. Just reading it. I have no idea. I think Elon would have a hard time on the campaign trail. I don't think he's used to that kind of dynamic. I don't know that he would ever have more power than he has right now in terms of influence over what happens.
Starting point is 00:22:34 He's kind of got all the upside, none of the downside with Trump seeing him as a spirit animal right now. So he's probably right in his sweet spot. Now let's see what he does with that power and that access and then that will probably answer your question Andrea Jones 5628 asks are we reliving the 80s Stallone really our shoulder pads coming back Listen, I'm a huge life fan Have you seen Rhinestone? I have you know the song drunken stein. Yes I wanted to be that for Halloween, but my wife said it was too obscure.
Starting point is 00:23:05 It is. It'd be weird seeing me dressed up as Drunkenstein from Rhinestone with our infant daughter for her first Halloween. Yeah, it'd be too much. It's really having the daughter that she wouldn't have liked. But wiser you create. I just really want to get Drunkenstein out there for those who haven't seen it. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:23:24 It's worth watching. It's not over the top, but it's a wrestling for what? Custody of your kid. Hey, I'm a Stallone guy, but people are pissed at him because he's Mr. Trump now. He loves Mr. Trump. And that does, I don't know, does that take away from daylight? He is an aging American who is uncomfortable with what he sees developing the culture around him. That's really what this is about.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Now, good, bad, right, wrong, that's for you to decide. But I got to tell you, it did hurt to hear him say that Trump is rocky. Trump had a significant political comeback. Trump dealing with an assassination attempt the way he did was very impressive to me. I've said that many times. But Rocky, really? The kind of, you know, the mythological kind of macho man
Starting point is 00:24:18 of all Italians and then you say it's Trump? That stung a little bit. You know, that was my father's campaign theme song. Oh, was it really? Was the Rocky song. And Sly was a big fan of my father. And it's interesting. How are you a big fan of Mario Cuomo and a big fan
Starting point is 00:24:35 of Donald Trump? They could not be more different as men. I am far more like Donald Trump than my father was, that's for sure. My father just lived by a code and an integrity that is very rare these days in politics or outside of it. Me, not so much. Trump, absolutely not. But the through line is he believed in the integrity of the purpose of the individuals. He didn't agree with everything my father did, not the way he does with Trump.
Starting point is 00:25:07 But he believed my father not just as an Italian American, but as how he came up and what he was about, that he believed in what my father was about. Similarly, he has problems with the way things are in this country, and he believes Trump is about changing what he doesn't like. So that's the through line. You give people what they want, you got them in your pocket. What's your favorite Stallone film?
Starting point is 00:25:29 Oh, I mean, it's definitely the Rocky series. Which one? What about Escape Plan? No, he's like Dr. Ray Breslin. He designed the jail, so they put him in the jail. It's very, and then he has to get out. It's very, very savvy. Tulsa's not bad either. Oh, Tulsa and then he has to get out. It's very, very savvy. Tulsa's not bad either.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Oh, Tulsa King. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tulsa King's very good. But it would be Rocky III. Is Rocky III- Claude of Winter. Oh, Claude, oh really? Mr. T.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Not number four? No. No, they went downhill. Three was it. What are you talking about? Five is downhill and then he got Balboa, then he just got- Creed.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Yeah. I'm not into any of that. Oh, you don't like the Creeds? No. There's Rocky, and then there's everything else. You're a purist in so many ways. Yes, yes I am. Name of my wife's company also. Ding ding.
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Starting point is 00:28:53 They used polls saying that Kamala Harris was ahead by a large margin. So yeah, if anything, left-wing media is partially to blame for the Democrats losing the election, for tricking Democratic voters into complacency. That's it. Thank you. I'll give you partially to blame because, you know, there are lots of different factors in any outcome. As Jordan Peterson instructs, there is not a single factor explanation for a complex situation. However, left-wing media, look, I think that that is in part a marketing campaign
Starting point is 00:29:40 for right-wing media, especially on the digital side. And that's why they dominate it as they do social media in general. They have made you guys so sensitive to what is in what they call mainstream media that you assume they're all out to get you so you go and pay these people money, okay? And I think you gotta be aware of that.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Are there problems in the media? Of course, of course. I've dealt with them personally and professionally. Everything is imperfect. I still think our media is a signature blessing of our democracy. But look, nobody said that Kamala Harris was way ahead in any way that was echoed as the truth, okay?
Starting point is 00:30:25 It was always a close race. The polls wound up not being that different. I mean, it came down to under 300,000 votes across a number of states. So the idea that Trump blew her out, yes, they won the House, they won the Senate, and obviously he won the White House. And he won the popular vote, it seems. And that is very rare for a Republican, but it was definitely close.
Starting point is 00:30:48 They just, hey, if you lose five games, 10 to 1 or 2 to 1, did you lose 10 games? Yeah, but the margin is also instructive of the outcome. And the Democrats didn't get wiped out in terms of margin. They just lost close races across the board. I am kind of annoyed that I'm hearing people talk about how poor America is when 90% of the people own smartphones and they spend over up to $1,000 a year on streaming services. So you know, they can't afford eggs. That's probably the reason. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I don't know why you're annoyed, but grocery prices are a big deal. And people feeling pressure at the gas pump, rent, you know, all of the essentials. I think that's what it's all about. And I think Democrats, in part, missed that mood and gotten to the business of telling people that they shouldn't feel the way they feel. And also they had to own the status quo.
Starting point is 00:31:50 So that's tough to do. That's why I didn't see this as a typical incumbent election where unless there's a recession on your watch, you usually get a second term. Hi, Mr. Chris Cuomo. This is Nancy. I am calling from Pennsylvania. I was a New Yorker. I'm calling on the fence to the election.
Starting point is 00:32:08 You probably are getting like a million phone calls. There is absolutely no way, no way we lost this election. Absolutely no way. If you look at a tape when, uh, the speaker of the house was here in Pennsylvania, he was rubbing his hands and stating that him and former president Trump had something up their sleeve. Please call me. I know we did not lose this election. I am positive.
Starting point is 00:32:35 There's something not right. He swept. Nothing in history has been like this. Please. We are deeply disappointed. Something is not right. He did disappointed. Something is not right. He did something. Something is not right. Thank you. Bye. We lived through it in 2016, by the way. And look, I get why you're upset. And that's okay,
Starting point is 00:32:58 by the way. And could you have been misled that everybody said it was going to be close? Yeah, but they said that Pennsylvania was going to be close also. And I think you're taking the, they've got something out of this, up his sleeve. I think that was bullshit Trumpism, something that he said. No Democrat in Pennsylvania or anywhere else has brought forward proof that the election was fugazi, or riggedged or wrong.
Starting point is 00:33:25 And if they do, then we'll look at that proof. But you're 100% sure you're positive. How can you be positive? There's been no proof of that other than this speculation that you point to. Don't be like what you oppose. You know, that's what an aggrieved Trump voter sounded like in 2020.
Starting point is 00:33:43 And I don't think you wanna be that. I think you wanna be better than that. I think you want to be better than that. I think a really interesting dynamic for you to look at in terms of what's shocking is that less people voted this time than last time. And that's weird with an expanding population. It shows how unmotivated people were. And I'm not surprised. I was a little surprised.
Starting point is 00:34:01 But it is instructive of just how unproductive division is. To wrap up the comments section, I want to start off kind of how we began. Oldman Myusky 527 says, Greg Ott related to Mel Ott. Are you? No. How do you know? Well, I don't, but I'm... I don't know for sure, but none of my relatives appear to be related to the baseball player.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Mel Ott was a baseball player from what I understand. What do you mean from what you understand? That's who he was. Yeah, that's what I understand. I understand he was a baseball player who I never saw play because he was probably dead before I was born. Wasn't there a great hockey player named Ott?
Starting point is 00:34:41 There was, Wayne Gretzky. Oh no, that's Bobby Orr. Oh, Bobby Orr, that's right. That's right. When you were picking your stage name, why didn't you go with Orr instead of Ott? You know, I had a teacher... Orr Odd. I had a... See, I host a weird news show. Greg Odd would be very appropriate for that, but I'm not using that. George Stringer, my seventh grade social studies teacher, used to call me Mr. Orr. And he'd go, Mr. Orr. And so that was- Why?
Starting point is 00:35:09 I don't know. I think he, somebody misspelled it at some point. There was a really good, I zinged him once and I got a really good zinger in there. I was running around the classroom getting laughs and he was like, hey Mr. Orr, slow down. You were running so fast, you messed up your hair. And I turned back and I go, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:35:24 you were running so fast, you lost your hair. He was a bald man. He did not like that. But what did he say? He kind of huffed and puffed but everybody got a huge laugh. You kidding me? How'd you feel? Great That was a huge massive laugh Is that when you learn that denigrating other people makes He started it he's the it. He's the teacher. He taught the wrong goddamn lesson. That's his problem, not mine. This is the problem with your generation.
Starting point is 00:35:51 He should have slapped you in your obnoxious pie hole. I was practically getting applause from the classroom. You kidding me? He had it coming. Good teacher though. Oh yeah. So look, a big part of this is that I'm not just talking at you, I'm talking to you. And I'm taking your feedback and we're trying to get to a better place because at the end of the day, that's what the project is all about.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Different ideas, disagreement with decency, but trying to foster some understanding for you and for me. So thank you for being part of it. Thank you for subscribing and following. If you want to add free, the easiest way is just subscribe at the sub stack and you get all this other good stuff there for just five bucks a month. And I'll see you on News Nation at 8P Eastern every weekday night. The problems are real.
Starting point is 00:36:41 You got to be part of the solution. So what do you say? Let's get after it.

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