The Chris Cuomo Project - FULL INTERVIEW: Suge Knight Speaks From Prison About Diddy
Episode Date: September 25, 2024In this full, unedited interview, Suge Knight joins Chris Cuomo from Richard J. Donovan State Prison to discuss Sean “Diddy” Combs and the allegations surrounding him. Suge offers his perspective ...on Diddy’s past, his relationships within the music industry, and the challenges Diddy may face while incarcerated. The conversation sheds light on long-standing issues in the entertainment world, providing a candid view from Suge’s experiences. Follow and subscribe to The Chris Cuomo Project on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube for new episodes every Tuesday and Thursday: https://linktr.ee/cuomoproject Join Chris Ad-Free On Substack: http://thechriscuomoproject.substack.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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["Darkest Night of the Year"]
For people who have done a little bit of homework
and know who you are, why should they believe you
about what you think and feel about Sean Diddy Combs and any allegations against him
given your history of animosity with him? Well, first of all, I'm not calling you and nobody else
to get nobody to believe anything regarding him. Like I said, I always say, he personally,
I don't jump up and down and cheer for no black man going
to prison or any other man, any other human being going to prison.
Now people think prison is always the answer.
I'm not saying a lot of people don't deserve to do their time and see what's going on.
But at the same time, that's not no cheerful thing because when you look at it,
that man have kids.
And whatever affects him definitely affects his kids. And I know there's a lot of victims involved in it
and whatever affects them, expect kids.
So it's never a good thing to be talking about
any kind of any shit about the next person.
But it's always, it's not a gray area with me.
And at the same time,
Tuffy didn't react
or get where he got
or doing those things or those allegations by himself.
He was taught from people before him
and he did to the younger people after him.
And we can talk all day and say, what's true,
what's not true.
Only true part about it is,
videos, conversations,
and people can see what they've done.
Before it's being happy and proud
and say what do people think?
That's irrelevant.
So sure.
It's just like I heard earlier today that,
earlier today when Ray J was talking to TMZ,
I got love for Harvey.
I see Charles always got some negative to say
when it comes to West Coast people.
And they all try to make a reference to say that,
what do I, how do I feel when I'm in prison?
I'm in prison, I guarantee you, I'm free more than Charles.
If I feel like sleeping to five o'clock,
I wanna sleep 12 hours a day I can.
So besides all that, the fact is,
it's not no competition who gonna talk the loudest or talk the best?
It's not something positive that can help anybody.
I don't get on no platform for it to be something positive.
If it ain't positive,
I understand what you're saying.
I want you to try to make some positive points here.
I get what you're saying about TMZ,
but that's not really my interest, as you might imagine.
My interest is in what you can help people understand
about these allegations that Diddy is facing
and what you believe he's facing on the inside.
Now, what's most interesting to me
is that you seem to see Diddy
as kind of an Epstein kind of figure,
that Jeffrey Epstein,
that a lot of people know what Diddy was about
and they were about the same thing
and that's why they're quiet.
That's why JLo and Ben Affleck got divorced because of videos that he has of her that
now they know about.
Where is this coming from with you?
What do you believe about the people around Diddy and what everybody knows?
Well, first of all, you got to start with the top. You starting with the top.
Clyde Davis, Russell Simmons, Andrea Arreo, Jimmy Iovine.
Even if you take Jimmy Iovine,
he had an allegation from him, same thing, he went away.
You take Jimmy Iovine.
They told me at Universal and Interscope,
they said, you know what, we can't deal with artists
that gets in trouble.
Your artists get in trouble, they talk crazy.
They think about what they see.
Now I was told that I can't do business there
because of that.
Now Doug Morris gave Puffy a deal for millions of dollars.
It flopped. So when you look at all these things and everybody wanna say Puffy, Puffy, Puffy a deal for millions of dollars. It flopped.
So when you look at all these things
and everybody wanna say Puffy, Puffy, Puffy,
don't get me wrong,
yeah, Puffy stepped in his shit
and even if he wiped his shit off his shoes,
it still stinks.
But he's not the only one.
They got all the tapes.
They got all the videos.
Now, when you talk about the tapes,
but this been going on for a long time.
Hold on, Shug, help us understand, because a lot of this stuff is a little inside baseball for people, right? Because they don talk about the tapes, who, what? Hold on, Shug, help us understand,
because a lot of this stuff
is a little inside baseball for people, right?
Because they don't live the life,
they don't know the world, they don't know the players.
But that's just a recording from the prison
that's just saying that they record it,
which obviously they do.
Shug, help people understand,
what tapes are you talking about, who has them,
and what kinds of things do you think they show?
Well, number one, luckily, I wasn't the first source,
they second source, I wasn't the first source
to be at those freaky parties.
But you know what they show.
They should have a thing in the industry, right?
And the sad thing about it, I don't like missing it,
I sure don't, I don't like missing Justin Bieber,
I don't like missing all these people
that everybody know what time it is.
So at the same time, they used to have a joke.
They never played this joke with me.
And they used to walk in the Innsco Walkers.
They'd go back there and they'd be like,
hey, we passed the test.
I said, we haven't did the test.
One dude said, don't say that in front of Mr. Knight
because he's gonna take an assessor if it hurts somebody. I said, well, whatever it is one do say we don't say that it's sort of this a night because he got taken a
Sensor that hurt somebody I say well, whatever it is. I probably will take it offensive was running will get the ass what you know
That was me in those days
They had these guys
They took over the ball egg test
It could take a ball age
raw boring
Now those guys put a pair down and been over there sticking up their ass.
The eggs break, they say they're not ready yet.
They ain't put enough work in.
This is Hollywood.
So everybody wanna go act right there
and know what's going on.
But you just look.
How you gotta do it?
I have never heard of anything like that.
So if I haven't heard about it,
just assume a lot of people haven't heard that before,
but you think it's on video?
Let's stop for a second.
Go ahead, Sean.
Listen, also, have you ever been to any puppy parties?
No.
You showed it after a long time to think about it,
but if you haven't been in those butt naked parties,
even some of the preachers have been in those parties,
and they weren't on their knees praying for God.
See, they were praying for somebody to have come real quick or something.
But I wasn't there for this poop of it.
But at the same time, everybody wanna look around
and act like something going on that wasn't right.
It's the facts of life in the industry.
Not for the people who don't get in.
So, anybody, you gotta look at it like this.
You see a beautiful woman or you see a handsome man and it was like that all
they like.
The elementary school to junior high school to high school,
they forced to go to college college, right?
I always knew they had some special about themselves.
If you take some of the Hollywood executives or some artists,
If you take some of the Hollywood executives or some artists, they might have been in the early definitely for a long time before they had to be fixed and lipsticks and nose fix
all the work done underneath.
They still the young people with no confidence because they didn't have weight all their fucking life.
So all of a sudden, if you look at puppy old pictures,
don't look nothing like his new pictures.
You know, shit, they didn't do everything.
But sure, just because he has plastic surgery,
all I'm saying is, I'm not saying that you're wrong
about rich people doing stuff to their face
or whatever it is, but that's different
than the allegations that are coming down on him.
I'm talking about the different.
I'm talking about, OK, look at it like this.
I look at real plain as hell.
Ain't no, ain't no whistleblower.
Facts is there.
But right now, I don't care if it's P.I.
I don't care if it's Rick Ross.
I don't care if it's Jay. I don't care if it's P.I., I don't care if it's Rick Ross,
I don't care if it's Jay, I don't care if it's Snoop,
I don't care if it's Gang, I don't care if it's Dre.
Nobody stepping up on the fact that
you know what's going on.
Nobody's defending him.
You're right.
You have a guy at the end of scope.
You're right.
Nobody is defending him, but that's why I was interested in hearing your perspective.
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Hey, I'd like to say this too real quick.
You got a woman that works for you,
it's really incredible.
You don't find too many people.
I thought you were about to implicate her
in the investigation. Got a lot of. I'm just thought you were about to implicate her in the investigation.
I'm just glad you're not implicating Dusty
in the investigation, Shug,
because I can't take that.
No, she's not in the investigation.
What I want to do for her is,
I want to, and look, I got to do this for her,
but I want to turn her on to this clothing line called
girls Monday to Sunday, girl Monday to Sunday. And I Girls Mondays to Sunday.
Girls Mondays to Sunday.
And I'm definitely gonna look out for it
because I buy a lot of shit
for a lot of people from that place.
But look, what I was basically trying to say is this,
I respect your show, I respect what you're doing,
but most important thing is there's gotta be a solution.
Because this has been going on in the industry
for a whole bunch of years, for decades.
And at the same time, you know, nobody wants it to be true.
And it shouldn't have to be true.
But if we don't fix it and do something about it, history will constantly repeat itself.
Now, Shug, you said something early on that I want to get clarification for the audience.
Shug, you said early on, you can't just look at Diddy in isolation.
You said this was done to him.
He learned from others and it was done to him.
And then he did to others.
To me, that sounds like what I hear when people are talking about
abusive situations, you know, hurt people, hurt people, that someone was sexually abused.
They wind up being a perpetrator. Is that what you're suggesting about people hurt people, that someone was sexually abused, they wind up being a perpetrator.
Is that what you're suggesting about Sean Combs,
that he was sexually abused and he now sexually abuses?
Yeah, I think that's absolutely right.
I think he repeat what was done to him.
And like I said, if you look at Russell Simmons,
you know the truth.
And General Reyes, you know the truth. F at Russell Simmons, you know the truth. Andrea Rales, you know the truth.
Brian Davis, you know the truth.
Jimmy Iovine, you know the truth.
So there's not certain things that all of a sudden
you got this, the industry is a quick business.
It's been like that for a long time.
And the casting couch is real, but it's for women and men.
But far from all that,
I think the most important thing is to,
I feel like,
they should let Puffy tell his truth.
I'm quite sure he gonna expose a lot of people.
I'm sure he gonna move forward with it.
I don't think it should be a situation
like the Epstein thing where they found him
hanging from the ceiling to death
for the truth to come out.
Do you believe that-
I think the truth need to be-
Do you believe that Diddy is in danger in prison,
and do you have advice for him based on what you just said?
Well, the first advice I have,
I don't never wanna say he he's in danger and neither should
he say that because once he gets to the point where they feel he's going to be suicidal
to itself, harmful to itself, once they put him on suicide watch, you had a right to nothing.
No socks, no drawers, no t-shirt, no blanket, no sheets.
You have so neck in a tail as a crazy man.
So he definitely don't wanna do that.
And then the other advice I would tell him,
you know, maybe he should get on the Jewish diet.
But the kosher meals is way better
than the food somebody else is making for you.
At least they're gonna come hot,
they're gonna come feeling. They're gonna come feel
that you gotta be the one to open them.
That's very important.
What about people trying to hurt them?
They ain't gonna go to jail or.
I mean, one of the things is this,
I don't care who you are,
prison and jail is a negative environment.
Somebody can do something to them
and get a name for theyself,
they're gonna actually do it. Or they can do whatever they
feel they got to do to prove they said, we also got to learn.
We got to learn from our mistakes. Everything don't have
to be mistakes. You got to better yourself. But we all know
what we signed up for in life. So if I signed up to be a football player,
I knew I'm gonna get hit,
and I'm gonna hurt some motherfuckers too.
So I signed up to be in the music business
and the entertainment business.
If you fight for rights and being a black man,
there's certain things you gotta look at
for the challenges.
If they can't take the money from you,
they take you for the money by putting you in prison.
That's a fact.
In a coffee situation,
he should go and get his time off the way.
Not no life sentence.
If he can get a lesser time,
he should jump on it because he had a great run.
I'm in prison right now.
I had a great run.
So I don't go mad.
I don't wake up mad.
I've been here for, I've been locked up for 10 years
and I ain't had a bad day yet.
And there's a lot of things we can do to help each other
and it's never too late for help.
God bless us to have a voice, let's use our voice.
I had told Puffy a while back, I told T.D. Jackson
a while back, kid, come on, collect calls.
We can talk to you.
Because one thing for certain, one thing for sure,
he's just not gonna walk away with one scratch on it.
That's not gonna happen like that.
But we can do something.
Do you think Diddy knows enough that it's a very delicate balance
that maybe investigators will want to know these other names
and greatly reduce his exposure to criminality to time
versus what people would do to keep him quiet.
Number one, I've known him a long time and we was friends.
We're not enemies, but we were friends.
He's not a dummy.
So he's smart enough to work his magic.
On top of that, this man right here,
he been involved with the FBI for most of his career.
It's not like he don't have no moves.
But I don't think nobody's just counting him out.
I don't think he gonna lay down
and get his clothes in the corner and die.
He probably going through a lot of shit right now
because he probably going through a lot of withdrawals
for the drugs, but the industry got him on drugs.
And see, they do these things to take control.
They not doing, there's nothing wrong with being gay.
If you choose to be gay, that's your preference.
But they doing this to people for control.
It's a power situation.
Shug.
And they've been having the power of the, yes.
I appreciate your perspective on this.