The Commercial Break - Garrick's Plan

Episode Date: April 10, 2024

Bryan & Krissy return to another old faithful today: TLC & the many dramas of sister wives and God’s Plan. We’re scared! Conjoined twins One of them got married Bryan & Krissy need a lesson on... conjoined twin anatomy Seeking Sister Wives A really old Ask TCB Leah’s probably had 18 tinder boyfriends by now Like Troy, Bryan is Breakin’ Free Bryan wants you to know he is sensitive Fuck-a-doodle-doo Garrick? It’s not God’s Plan, It’s Garrick Plans God ain’t worried about Garrick A murder! We got you a gym membership LINKS: Send us show ideas, comments, questions or concerns by texting us   212.433.3TCB text or leave us a voicemail Watch TCB on YouTube Creator: Bryan Green Co-Host: Bryan Green Co-Host: Krissy Hoadley Producer: Christina A.  Producer: Gustavo B. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:05 It's still 30 in the morning! Oh yeah, cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Gray and this is my co-host and best friend, Chris and Joy Holtley. Best to you, Chris. Best to you, Brian. Best to you out there in the podcast universe. Yes, it's short time here in Atlanta. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:03:21 The fifth fake spring is finally over and now we venture off into the nether world of boiling here on Earth. Now I thought it's gonna be in the 30s. Oh it is? Later this week. Oh the sixth fake spring will be upon us later on this week. I'm about as accurate as that fucking weather channel.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I'll tell you what. It changes like by the hour. I looked on the weather channel just yesterday like three times to see what the weather is gonna be all about. Kids are out of school and we got to find something to do with those rugrats and I'm like oh okay it's gonna be a beautiful week outside no rain in the forecast wake up this morning tornado warnings. What the fuck? What the fuck? Severe weather. You aren't even that good that you can get a 12 hour window semi accurately mean, just like how are tornadoes appearing out of nowhere when yesterday there were no clouds in the forecast whatsoever. I know. And here I go again, like an old fucking white man talking about the weather. I won't bore you
Starting point is 00:04:13 anymore. We'll get onto the good stuff. A lot of people said great things about our Paul shear interview. Paul, the nicest guy in show business, even though that's the only guy we know in show business, except for of course, Neil Brennan, whose episode just aired yesterday, Neil Brennan dot com. Go watch his Netflix special out now. And thank you very much to Neil for showing up. And thanks for all the kind words about the Paul Scheer interview. It's a really funny special.
Starting point is 00:04:37 We had as much fun as it sounded like we had. A lot of times we'll just pretend, but this time we actually had fun. So there you go. A lot of times we're just pretend, but this time we actually had fun, so there you go. A lot of times we're just scared, so we just, we just nervously laugh and ask silly questions. Like, which book do you like? Which book do you like to read on the road? But, but I will say this,
Starting point is 00:04:59 Paul is one of the nice, we're just scared. We're just scared of Paul Scheer. Now he could have been loving, he was so welcoming and nice. Paul was awesome. As was Neil. Neil was great too. He was very generous with his time. I was actually listening, I was laughing because I was listening to Paul's podcast that he does.
Starting point is 00:05:21 How Did This Get Made? How Did This Get made? Yes. And they had a guest on that show. And the funny thing is that I never really heard the guest talk. It was mostly still the original people. Yeah, of course. Maybe that's what we should just do with our interview. I think that's what we do do with some of the interviews. We just leave the guest out.
Starting point is 00:05:39 We'll just keep talking. Yeah. When I get scared, I just look at you and say something. I'm like, I'm scared. I don't know what to ask next. So why don't I just... They're being mean to me, Chrissy. He's being mean to me.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Yeah, but it's got to be a very complicated thing to bring four voices in the room. Right. They've already got three. Forget about it. I mean, I was talking to Christina, who was editing the Paul Scheer episode last week. And she's, and if it sounds a little odd how that episode cut off, it's because we didn't realize that Paul had dropped off. He froze and dropped off at the end, if you remember. So, Christina was having a hard time figuring out where to end the interview because the goodbyes were saying goodbye, but he's not responding to us. So,
Starting point is 00:06:23 it sounds like we've just said goodbye to someone that's hung up on us. And just like my baby screaming in the background. So she was having a little trouble, but then I said, well, just cut it a little earlier, you know, find a good spot, you know, to end it. And then maybe I'll put a bumper if it sounds natural, if it sounds unnatural. This is the, you know, the minutia of putting together a podcast. Sometimes things go wrong. And here at this studio, often more than not, that's kind of the batting average.
Starting point is 00:06:53 So she says, well, I would, but everyone is talking over each other in the last like 30 seconds of the actual interview. And I'm like, well, what do you want me to do? I don't know, it's three people in the room. We all got to say our things. Yes. See, that's a problem too, is not the problem, but the challenge. Well, actually, I like this. And I think Brad Williams has been like this, Felicia, JoAnna Hausman, Heather McMahon, like a lot of the guests that we've had on that we've really enjoyed, they are also podcasters. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:23 So when you put three, yay, four podcasters in a room and expect that any of them are going to shut up, that's just not, that's not true. I have been on podcast panels at podcast shows where I'm up there with other podcasters and, you know, they give you 30 minutes. And so I've been on so many of these now that when the person who's doing the actual, you know, the mediator of the conversation with the panelists, they always want to get together beforehand and have some big talk about how it's all going to go down, right? I'll ask you this and then I'll throw it to him and then I'll, and I've just taken a good experienced mediator, someone who presents knows, just go up there, ask one question, and the entire 30 minutes
Starting point is 00:08:09 is going to be taken by whoever gets that question. And that could be me. And I've been guilty of this in the past. I actually have to like shut myself up and, well, I should let somebody else talk. Because you put podcasters on a stage in front of a microphone and you ask them one question, that's a 30 minute answer right there. That's what we do. We have learned how to talk into the microphone incessantly. But it saves my wife from all the conversation at the end of the night, so she can get a good night's sleep. I've already talked it out with you.
Starting point is 00:08:36 I'm glad. Anyway, thanks very much for the nice words about Paul. paulshear.com. Go order his book, Neil Brennan, neilbrennan.com, go order, go watch his Netflix special, which is just fantastic. It's hilarious. Yeah, it really is. It is an hour and five minutes of hilarity. Okay, now let's get to the important stuff. All right, the meat. I think maybe this was episode number 12 or 13. When I talk to you about a TLC show, of course a TLC show. A galaxy far, far, far away.
Starting point is 00:09:09 That's the way I feel. 712 hours of Brian talking ago. I can't believe it. I can't believe how much talking I've done on this show. 712 hours of Brian talking ago, we talked about a TLC show that was following around. This is an old-door show. 712 hours of Brian talking ago, we talked about a TLC show that was following around. This is an old show, it was like back in 2000, you know, the Aughts, the Mid-Aughts. We talked about a TLC show where they had profiled conjoined twins. Now, the conjoined twins are
Starting point is 00:09:39 female, they're two female conjoined twins. They are conjoined at the hip. So now I want you to imagine this. Two heads, like there's two arms and then two heads and then they come together in the abdomen, right? So anything below the waist is shared. Anything above the waist is independent. So the one on the left controls the left arm and I guess the left eye, I'm not even really sure how that works. And then the one on the right, the left arm, and I guess the left eye, I'm not even really sure how that works. And then the one on the right, I mean, they both have two heads.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Brian, you're an asshole. And then the one on the right controls the right arm, so on and so forth. Update, years ago, a couple of years ago, and now we're all just finding out about this now, and since you're hearing it here last, we actually found out about it two weeks ago. But the conjoined twins, one of them has gotten married. Oh. One of them has gotten married. Just one. You want to read the byline? Sure.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Okay, just wait for your answer. I'm sorry, I was picturing that in my head. Here, I'll show you a picture. Because just one, also they are one, they're only one person from the torso down. So figure that one out. I mean, do you only get a hand shandy from the left hand? I'm not really sure. I mean, I don't want to be glib about it because I think it's beautiful and wonderful that someone is finding love. Danielle Pletka Yes, good for all three of us. Jared Sussman Yes, find your love. Everybody deserves love.
Starting point is 00:11:00 But is it just one of you that's really falling in love with this guy? You can't go on dates? How do you have any privacy? What happens during lovemaking? I don't know. My mind is smoking. I know. Let's try to figure it out. I can see it. I can actually see smoke coming out of your ears. This is a very interesting question, and again, I don't want to be glib about it, because here, and I remember this about the story. When they were born, the doctors said, we can do an operation, but it is highly likely we lose one of them.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah. If not both of them. We lose one of them, if not both of them, but we're willing to take the chance so that at least, the doctors were saying, we're willing to take the chance so at least one of them can live some kind of semi-normal life. And the parents, you cannot split the baby. I know that's in the Bible somewhere, but you cannot split the baby. That's just impossible. I wouldn't make that choice either. I'd be like, fuck no, these are my children. Let them live as long as they're going
Starting point is 00:11:53 to live and let me have my time with them. I don't want to take the chance that I'm going to lose one or both of them. So, this is like a super incredible story of perseverance and what a life you must have lived. They're also teachers, so they teach together in a classroom. So, here, let me read the story to you. Ready? Whether you're ready or not, here it comes. Yes, I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Okay. Abby and Brittany Hensel, who documented their lives in the TLC reality series, have transitioned from a duo into a trio. Abby, the left conjoined twin, married Josh Bowling, a nurse in the United States Army veteran. They live in Minnesota where the Hensel twins were born and raised. Abby and Brittany, 34 years old, have been living private life since their eight episode show, Abby and Brittany, aired in 2012.
Starting point is 00:12:43 But it's been a happy life for them in Minnesota where they were born and raised. According to the Today Show, which obtained marriage records for the spouses, the sisters are both fifth grade teachers in their home state. Abbey and Josh kept their marriage under wraps from the public eye until 2023 when they shared photos of the wedding ceremony on their TikTok. A wedding Guests' resurfaced clip revealed an intimate moment from the lovebirds' wedding on Facebook.
Starting point is 00:13:10 A 20-second clip posted on Heidi Boling's Facebook captures the couple dancing and kissing at the wedding reception. Abby and her sister wore all-weight, sleeveless, bridal gown and a lace-back dress. While Boling wore a gray suit. Congratulations, Bowling. Bowling is seen staring into his blushing bride's eyes while Brittany supports her sister.
Starting point is 00:13:32 God. The duo originally appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show in 1996, explaining their lives as conjoined twins. They were born as dysphosalus conjoined twins, a rare condition when two heads are on a single body with one genital system, two, three, or four arms, two hearts, and two legs. The Hensel twins share a bloodstream and all organs below the waist. That's amazing. Abby controls the right arm and leg and Brittany controls the left side. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Unbelievable. It's really unbelievable. And who got married? Abbey? Abbey. Okay. Let me make sure of this. So are they a righty?
Starting point is 00:14:14 I don't know. I don't know either. I have all kinds of questions. It's Abbey. Abbey's the one who got married and Abbey controls the... I think so. I think so. I think so.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I think so. I think so. I think so. I think so. I think so. I think so. I have all kinds of questions. It's Abby. Abby's the one who got married and Abby controls the... I think it was right. Yeah, I think you're right. Abby controls the right arm and the right leg. So, you're getting right hand shandies. How do you make love? Do you need permission? There's some questions I legitimately... I know, again, my mind is... Yeah. But let's get my head out of the dirt right now and let's pick it up just a little bit
Starting point is 00:14:52 and wonder, how do you on a date? How do you have intimate moments? How do you... Well, they're not private. So I mean, I guess just... And maybe just growing up that way from the get-go, you never know anything different. And that's just another part of you, I guess, kind of like an arm or a hand. I don't know. Maybe you learn to tune it out. Maybe you learn to tune it out. God damn.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Fuck that. That would be a good skill to know. Wouldn't it? Between you and Kevin. Yeah. Kevin and I can join. If Kevin and I were can join, I would ask for the surgery. I'd be like, I don't care what my chances are of living. Separate me from this guy.
Starting point is 00:15:30 He's driving me crazy. Well that is true. I mean, think about if you get mad at the other person, you can't. No, you can't. There's nowhere to run. Yeah. You go over there in the corner. Well, you got to come with me. Oh God. Yeah, you go over there in the corner. Well, you got to come with me. I don't want to be around you right now. I mean, imagine all the drama. But now I have to say that, you know, as a twin, which is a definite, it's not, I guess what am I trying to say is that I don't know anything different than being a twin. But for Kevin and I, as fraternal
Starting point is 00:16:03 twins, we are two totally separate people. We do not share feelings, we don't share senses, we don't finish each other's sentences. None of that stuff happened. We don't look alike, we don't act alike, we don't speak alike. None of that stuff happened to us. But we know a number of identical twins, and they do share basically everything. Because they were one person. They are one person. And then they split. Genetically, they're the exact same person.
Starting point is 00:16:30 And so they share most of their lives with each other in a way that would be hard to describe. And I've talked to identical twins about this and our experiences are vastly different, fraternal and identical twins, vastly different. Now take that a step further and you're sharing a fucking body. That is amazeballs. Amazeballs. It really is. And I want to know about all of it. I wish I knew about all of it. I wish they would come on and
Starting point is 00:16:54 I could talk to them about this because I want to know about everything. How did you meet? What was the first date like? Yeah. And I guess like even in other aspects of their lives, I guess you really, I mean, you have to decide together that you are gonna do this one job. Yeah. You have to agree. Hand job? No.
Starting point is 00:17:12 No, you do. Teacher. You're right. You have to agree on everything. You have to agree on what you're having for fucking breakfast. Well, you could have a different breakfast. You could, but I mean, don't you like, what if, okay, maybe not breakfast, two different bowls
Starting point is 00:17:29 of cereal. Because they have two mouths. I mean, there's two heads. They do. There's two heads, right? They're two different heads on the same body. But imagine you go have a steak. How are you going to cut that by your fucking self?
Starting point is 00:17:39 What if Abby says, I'm not interested in steak tonight, I want some pasta. Can you help me cut it? No. I mean, just imagine the drama that you could inflict on somebody if you had one of their hands. That is so fascinating. And so like, do they share that? Cause I mean, just think it now,
Starting point is 00:17:54 I'm thinking about eating like, well, is one full and the other is not? Or does it all go together? I think it all comes together in the organs. All comes together, okay. But I mean, imagine just like the daily activity of, I wanna take a shower. Well, I don't wanna take a shower.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I wanna wash my hair. I'm not interested in washing my hair today. I have to take a poop. Well, I don't feel the same way. Just imagine. Well, I guess they have to share that. But I mean, that level of detail about your life. And then imagine there's just someone right next to you, no matter
Starting point is 00:18:25 what you do. No secrets. No whacking off by yourself. No sneaking in a little porn during a Zoom phone call. You know what I'm saying? Whatever your guy's name is from CNN. You literally do everything together. Every single thing. And the kids who are- Is there a picture on that? Yeah, there is. There's a picture. There's a little video of them dancing together. This is them when they were kids. So, look at that one picture when they were kids and they're learning how to ride a bike. They have to coordinate the left and the right leg because
Starting point is 00:18:56 they each independently operate one of those. Yeah. Yeah. Then you can scroll up and then there's like pictures of the wedding. That's insane, isn't it? It really is. Life takes on so many beautiful and weird forms. Yeah. It's- And they're thriving. They're thriving.
Starting point is 00:19:13 One of them's married. Okay. Now here's, here's where I think it could really get tricky. What if Brit Brit falls in love? Then what do they do? Right. Josh is going to have to fall in love with him too, because I'm telling you what, you're going to be sharing the package.
Starting point is 00:19:32 You're sharing for sure. That's it. But if you watch them on television, if you go back and you can find that 2012 documentary series that TLC did, if you watch them on television, they are two independent people. Now, they do finish each other's sentences and stuff like that, of TLC did, if you watch them on television, they are two independent people. Now, they do speak, like, finish each other sentences and stuff like that, of course they do, but they are two independent people with different likes and dislikes and all this other stuff. It's just like, it's so- And from the guy's perspective too, I mean, you have to really like both of them. Well, I'm sure Josh is a perfectly lovely person and he has seen past so much to fall
Starting point is 00:20:03 in love with one woman. So, I really want to pat the guy on the back and say, cheers. But I just wonder a little bit. I just wonder a little bit about the motivations. I don't mean to be kind of dour about it. But it's like that, the girl that we were watching, you know, that never aged, remember her, remember that girl, TLC series, that never came back. I don't know what happened to her. Right. Yeah, she was like 12 or something. She stopped aging at 12. She looked, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:31 And she was 23 years old the last time that we were talking about, about a year and a half ago. And there were a lot of guys that were interested, there were a few that weren't. There were a few that said, I'm sorry, I just can't get past the fact that you look like you're 12. You look very young. I'm not interested romantically, but let's be friends. But then there were certainly a couple of guys that were like, yeah, I'm all with it. The last guy, she was dating some guy, and I was like, oh, that guy's motivations are all over the place. That's a really tricky situation, as is this.
Starting point is 00:20:58 And so, I applaud him in one sense, and I'm really curious in another sense, how do you have a full norm? I mean, it's not normal, it's never gonna be normal in the average sense, right? In the way we think about one person, one head, one body kind of thing. But then how do you get past it? I'm thinking about it, you know, just like talking on the phone, you know?
Starting point is 00:21:20 Yeah. What about phone sex? Oh, phone sex, that's a good one. They're right there,. That person's right there I gotta imagine. I mean, this is my guess is that intimacy comes down to one really interesting Conversation between all of them. Yes, true. Okay, we're gonna do this But I'm gonna be watching Neil Brennan's new special on Netflix over here while you guys do the bang bang
Starting point is 00:21:52 Yeah, you put on your night mask like your little night mask in your head pillow night night Yeah, and you put on yeah, you do calm the calm But meanwhile your feelings the, the feelings. Yes. Do me a favor, can you wrap your leg around him? I don't. Put your arm here. Wow. I mean, it is mind blowing.
Starting point is 00:22:10 It is incredible. And again, the beauty and oddities and strangeness that life takes on this earth, there are aliens and they're already here. Life thrives. Life thrives. It thrives. They're teachers. They're alive and doing well. I'm sure that there are a lot of doctors when they came out that gave them zero chance of
Starting point is 00:22:29 living, but I was like, five, right? They were like, because, I mean, I know that this is not 100% uncommon. There are other people who have had this. I actually have seen pictures, like older pictures back in the 20s, 30s, 40s, black and white photographs of people with this condition and they would travel around the circus because that's all they could do. That's all they could do. These girls are teachers, they had a wedding, they're married, Josh is doing whatever Josh does.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Yeah. I mean, you know. Yeah. God damn. Listen, if anybody knows those girls, and I know they have privately, like they have chosen to keep their lives private, understandably so, but do they ever think about talking to anybody? I promise that I will handle this with the kind of care and attention that only the commercial way could. I'm sure. I want to know.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Inquiring minds want to know. It's so fascinating to me. Isn't it? Very, extremely. And you should see the first dance. They're like, you know, both of them are like have their arms wrapped around him and he's kissing. He's kissing one of them. And the other one is just staring on being with a smile on her face. She's supporting her sister. Wow, Chrissy, I just have, my mind is officially. Yeah, it really is mind bending. Yeah, I mean, this is like this fucking seeking sister wives.
Starting point is 00:23:49 It's not like that, but it could be like that. In my mind, it's kind of like that. And I've got an Ask TCB that will lead into a series of conversations about seeking sister wives. If you're not watching this show, this is the best reality show on television right now because, wow, do these fuckers twist themselves up into a knot trying to explain why they want to have sex with two women at the same time and the women that just go along with this and in some cases encourage it is just
Starting point is 00:24:19 it's it's beyond my comprehension. So let's take a short break and then we'll be back. We got an Ask TCB today. Are you excited about that? I'm very excited. This is actually a very old question that came to us a long time ago and just as I normally do had no follow through whatsoever. All right, we'll be back. What?
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Starting point is 00:28:44 Yeah, if you're still listening, which you probably aren't because you're like, well, I gave them a shot, but they never responded. I emailed them, but they never responded. All right, I got things to do. What do you want me to do? I got 5,000 children running around here. I got to show them, try to keep on the tracks. Okay. So, Leah writes in and Leah, I'm just gonna paraphrase Leah's question here. She's been dating a new beau and she, after five weeks of dating, they're getting into that, okay, I think we can be serious right now. And for some reason, she went onto his phone with his permission to look at something and when she closed out, she noticed notifications that had come in from dating apps with an S.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Okay. Right? And so she asked the question, now they've probably long since broken up because we didn't give her the advice she needed. She asked the question, when is the appropriate time to start the conversation about cutting off the applications on the phone? That is how they met by the way. That is how they met, by the way. That is how they met. So this is an interesting question,
Starting point is 00:29:46 only relevant in 2024 for the last six or seven years. And I'm having a hard time figuring out what my stance is on this. I mean, the guy's just playing a little bit of defense here. He's saying, well, I had other conversations going. You and I met in real life. We had a couple, we have a good run here going on. But I do not want to be left, you know, holding the bag. And the way that people ghost each other on this apps, you can almost not fault him for saying, well,
Starting point is 00:30:13 I better have a backup plan here. Right? And, you know, the dating apps, I think for most people, especially under the age of, let's call it 35, 40, you know, most people I think are looking for some kind of physical interaction as the leading motivation to being on the apps. I know everybody wants, and I know everybody, every single person on this earth wants to be loved and in some kind of caring and nurturing relationship or relationships. But let's be honest about it, what you really want is to get some ass, right? And I think that that's how you met this guy. So you understand that this can lead to connections. And what's he going to do? How do you close all that off? Do you just like delete the app and go away? That's
Starting point is 00:31:00 what I did. I just deleted the app and went away. Yeah, but no one was looking for me So no, I didn't have any notifications coming through Just say well not today sister, I'm not gonna let you swipe left on me sister not today Yeah, I mean I think that you it's as soon as you say We're serious, you know, I yeah, I think that it's as soon as you say, we're serious. I think so. I think that you lead, Leah, with what exactly the question is. When do you start to have that conversation?
Starting point is 00:31:33 You're answering your own question, the conversation. Start the conversation. And you could even throw it back to the other person and say, how do you feel about me still being on the apps? Yeah, that's a fun game to play. I can do what you can do. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I don't mean it in like a defensive way.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I mean, just saying, hey, like you said, a conversation and you say, hey, let's talk about this because this is the way that we met. I'm ready to kind of deactivate all of mine. Are you? I think you have the conversation. If you're not, cool. Yeah, if you're not, cool.
Starting point is 00:32:09 But I don't want to be involved. Yeah, I don't want to get serious. I want something serious, or then let's just keep it casual. I would also like to be out there dating people. So let's put our picture up there together and see if we can rope a third woman into the conversation. Yes, because that always works out, is my understanding. Yes. Leah, you gotta, if you haven't already, a year later, this is such a timely question, we dropped them all. Leah's on her seven Tinder boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Maybe it'll help somebody else. Yeah, maybe it'll help somebody else. You delete the apps when you're ready to have that conversation. And if he doesn't, then he is not your man and you move on to the next thing and life will go on plenty efficiently, all that bullshit. Because, you know, I would be hurt if I had been dating someone and it was getting serious. Maybe not hurt, but I would sense
Starting point is 00:33:01 that it'd be time to have that conversation after five or six weeks. And if you're like seeing each other three times, four times a week, not hurt, but I would sense that it'd be time to have that conversation after five or six weeks. And if you're like seeing each other three times, four times a week, then just talk to them. Just say, Hey, listen, I picked up your phone because you told me to do this whole thing. Yeah. And I noticed there's a bunch of Tinder notifications coming in.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And I understand that's how we met. And I'm not dumb. I understand that you probably met other women on the application but if we're moving into this serious part can you delete the app or at least stop having the fucking conversations with other women for right now I would say delete the app because I think it's too tempting yeah if you have the app on your phone and guys we just don't have it in us to think with our heads when it comes to romantic relationships. It's just dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, right? And so, even the guys with the best of intentions,
Starting point is 00:33:52 you know, it's hard to not want female attention, just like the same thing, I'm sure, with women or male attention or whatever you're into. So, I would say that have the conversation. It sounds like you're ready because you're asking the question to a podcast that can't even respond to you in a year's time. Then the truth is, you're asking the wrong, you're having the conversation with the wrong person. You need to have it with him, not with us. Just have the conversation. That's the way it goes. And now let me piggy front that a little bit and say that The Sister Wives is the best television show that's going on television right now. Television, reality television show on TLC right now. 90 Day Fiancé is kind of losing its luster a little bit for me.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Is there even a new, is there a new season on of that? Of Seeking Sister Wives? No. At 90 Day Fiancé? There is always a new season of some of 90 Day Fiancé always going around. I broke free for a while. I'm breaking free. I don't know if I'm ready to go back. I did get into another show though I don't know if you've checked this one out and I I'm late to the game on it but Netflix is the love on the spectrum. It's very
Starting point is 00:34:58 interesting. I have had so many people come up to me and say watch Love on the Spectrum talk about it on the show. I think you would have a kick out of it. It's really good. I watched the, I think the original version is from the BBC. Okay. Yeah, I think so. And I think it was called Love on the Spectrum also.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And I did watch that first season or two before I had children. But let me tell you why I just can't get into it. My heart breaks when I watch someone that's having difficulties navigating through life. I was like this as a child. If I would see someone that would, say, a child in a wheelchair, or a child missing an arm, or a child with mental disabilities. When I would see someone like that, I would literally cry. My mom has said this to me to this day.
Starting point is 00:35:50 She's like, I always remember. I was crying during the show. And now that I have children, I know. Now that I have children, there's an extra level of sensitivity that goes on. And I just- I get it, you're protecting yourself. I'm protecting myself from the kind of pain that I know eventually I'm also going to deal with,
Starting point is 00:36:09 with my own children. Like, I don't want to have to go through it twice, I just want to go through it once. Do you know what I'm saying? So, I don't know, but there's something that keeps me away from that love on the spectrum a little bit. I don't want to see these kids get their hearts broken. But I see where you're coming from. Yeah. Okay, maybe someday I'll give it a try. So back to sister wives. Sister wives. Now these people are not on the spectrum, or maybe they are, I don't know, but it's just fucking A right.
Starting point is 00:36:32 These are grown ass adults with their heads seemingly on their shoulders who are making ludicrous, seemingly ludicrous and dumb decisions with their lives. I don't care if you want to have a threesome, multiple wives, multiple husbands, chickens, a cow, and pet duck fucking your cock. I don't care. It doesn't matter to me. It doesn't matter to me. I don't know about the duck. Listen, to each their own quackadoodledoo. You know what I'm saying? Quackadoodledoo, fuckado doodle do. That's what I have to say. Okay maybe not the chickens. Leave the baby chickens alone.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Loving the chicken coop. So these people, now we're like five seasons into this, right? And very few of them actually have a second season. But now there are a couple of couples that do have a second season. Because they're still seeking? They're still seeking. Okay. This guy named Garrick, I think it's his name, Garrick. What kind of name is Garrick?
Starting point is 00:37:36 Is it Rick or is it Gary? What is Garrick? What is that? Who gave you that name? I don't get it. Now, Garrick seemingly has been chosen by God to have as many vaginas around him as possible. And he has convinced his wife, who seems just like a lovely human being. I mean, like a really lovely human being. But I don't know what rocks this girl has in her head, but Garrick wants ass. But he keeps pulling out the Bible every time it's time to have a new lady. Oh, right. Reference. Yes. So now, for two seasons.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Here's the proof. Yeah, here's the proof. God says, let thy cleanse thy dick with multiple vaginas. I don't know. Garrick is, they spent two seasons courting this woman from, I think, Mexico or Brazil. Danielle Pletka Oh, right. Jared Make Okay. Danielle Pletka Didn't we review it? Jared Make Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Danielle Pletka Yeah, okay. Jared Make We did. He spends two seasons courting this woman, Roberta, from wherever she's from, to only have it break apart in disaster and heartache forever. Danielle Pletka I'm shocked. Jared Make Shocked. Completely blown away that this would be the outcome of a plural marriage. We've seen this time and time again on reality TV.
Starting point is 00:38:56 What about that sister wives show where that guy had seven, eight, 12, 13 wives? I don't have any wives he had. He is not married to one of them anymore. One of them. Actually he is married to to one of them. They all revolted. Yeah, they revolted. Why? Because they realized that this was not God's plan. This was one man seeking selfishly to be with multiple women. And have all of the women take care of the kids. He never even paid attention to the children. He was like, yeah, I don't have time for that. Of
Starting point is 00:39:22 course you don't. You have 27 fucking children from 12 different wives. And good for those women, getting them, spending the rest of their lives. One of them even got remarried, I think. So now, Garrick is back at it. Garrick has been called by God. There's a moment in the television show, and listen, I try not to run too much of TLC stuff because they always just want to like fucking copyright hit me and all this other shit. But like they're paying attention to me.
Starting point is 00:39:48 It's actually some AI algorithm that does that. But Garrick, we come back to the season number five after Roberta has broken the hearts. We come back and Garrick has found a new woman from wherever she's from down in South America. And she's young, she's beautiful, she doesn't speak a lick of English, barely, right? So, they're using a translator for every goddamn thing, which is annoying when you're watching a reality show. And the wife, his wife, Garak's wife,
Starting point is 00:40:15 is like, I don't know that I'm ready for this, but Garak says in the show, this is what he actually says to the camera while his wife is sitting next to him. He says, me and sister over here, he calls his wife sister, which is just gross, right? Yeah. Me and sister had a moment in the garage where God came to me and told me that this is the one, this is, I don't want to upset God's plan. And the wife, the look on the wife's face is like a hostage. She's blinking desperately, she's blinking SOS desperately to the camera, SOS, SOS help. Because, and then he says, even sister felt it. And she's like, she kind of twists her head. She's like, no, no, that was you. That was all you. You were talking to God. I was over on the other side
Starting point is 00:41:01 of the garage trying to clean something up. Try to clean out the garage. Try to clean out Roberta's shit. They go down to Mexico to meet this woman. The woman brings her mother. They're in the house. He says, the rule is, for this particular family, is no hanky panky until someone is engaged. Garrick can't buy a diamond ring fast enough.
Starting point is 00:41:28 I mean, he just cannot. He is ready to just get laid at all expense. He will tear his whole family apart just so he can get his dick wet one more time from some young, beautiful South American beauty. And this is his mission. So this is the first time that they are meeting in person. And he is just hell bent on proposing to her. And not even, they're spending like two weeks in Mexico, they bring along their grown children that are like 14 and 17 years old.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Oh, wow. Fuck, man. That must fuck with your head. And now they're on television. So, you can be sure. Yeah, you can be sure. The rest of their lives are not going to be normal. Chrissy, they aren't even at that place two hours and he's got that ring out. Like he's got it in his pocket. It's burning a hole in his pocket. But the girl who is smart is taking it easy. The sister one, the new one, is taking it easy, the sister one. The new one. Yeah, the new one is taking it slow. She's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. We just met face to face. I don't know if your wife likes me. I don't know if she really wants this. I don't know what's going on. So, I'm here with my mom and we're
Starting point is 00:42:34 going to go to bed. So, there's literally a scene where Garrick is standing outside the bedroom door and he's trying to like, you know, give her some physical affection. And she's like, okay, I'm going to go to bed now. And he's like, well, do you want me to come in? And she's like, nope, no, I don't. That's okay. Garak, you can see him reach into that pocket. I mean, he is ready to pull out that ring and get down on one knee right now. He doesn't matter. He just wants to get laid. He is buying diamond rings so he can get laid. He doesn't care if they get married or not. Next morning, they wake up. It's the both of them, and this is where we wrap it back into Leah's question. They wake up and she, the new wife, picks up the phone to do something, Garak's phone to use the translator, do something on the translator, and he's getting notifications from these dating apps. And she, so now the, his first wife comes into the kitchen and she's stepping upon this
Starting point is 00:43:30 kerfuffle she's coming into it. Who wants some eggs? Yes. Who wants some eggs? God told me. God told me to make some eggs. I'm walking in God's path! I'm going to make you some bacon eggs! Yeah, he's on 13 to other dating apps. Don't mind me
Starting point is 00:43:47 I'll be over here crispy bacon crispy or not crispy What? He just said someone three thousand dollars on cash UPS notification three diamond rings showed up across South America yesterday characters play a defense UPS notification! Three diamond rings showed up across South America yesterday. Garak is playing defense. Hot defense. Garak is doing this tap dance. I have never seen a man dance like this before. Never. I mean, I didn't know you could respond. I thought I did delete them. What are you talking about? I took I deleted them. Yes. I took my picture down. No one can see me.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I can't communicate. Those are just talking to me. I don't want to leave them in the cold. I just wanted to say goodbye. I wanted to make sure I didn't offend anybody. You know how I am. I'm so sweet. I can't offend anybody.
Starting point is 00:44:35 He's doing this tap dance and the wife, the original wife, starts to revolt. She's like, no, you didn't. You didn't delete them. You told me you didn't delete them. You told me you were looking for new women. And the new wife, potential wife, is also doing a tap dance. She's like, I'm out of here. I will see everyone later. I am not interested in this one bit. Next morning, so they have this big fight. Next morning, Garak's fake crying. You know,
Starting point is 00:45:00 he's like, I've really offended these women and I feel like, you know, I've lost my purpose. I need to get back to God and figure it all out. I need to apologize. I really want to ask her to marry me. I wanted to last night, but it didn't work out, did it? So, I'm going to ask her today to marry me. And I'm like, dude, you could not be in more of a rush to get into a relationship with someone you barely know. And you can't even speak with, I mean. No, you can't even talk to her. I mean, she's got some English, but it's not conversational English, I'll tell you that. It's yes, no, and I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:45:39 He is so ready to just put a huge ring on someone's finger so he can get laid. It's unbelievable. I, first of all, I can't afford this kind of situation here. I can't buy everybody a diamond ring. I do have those little rings, the fake rings that you get in the Easter eggs that my daughter got a few of those. And I can put those on some fingers. Nicole Soule-Nagant-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth-Kenneth God damn it, if Astrid ever, ever would ever agree to me dating a third woman, to bring in a sister wife. No. That's what I was going to say. Why is he even still married to the first wife? He offends her so much. He disregards her altogether. And it really drives me fucking crazy. Her name is Danielle. It really drives me crazy. I know, just get divorced. Well, no,
Starting point is 00:46:23 excuse me. Let's go back to two seasons ago. He did get a divorce from her so he could legally marry Roberta. Oh, that's right. Do you remember that? Yes, yes. So, here this poor girl Danielle is sitting in a courtroom, dissolving a marriage, divorcing in a courtroom, and the cameras are there, and she is sobbing, but she knows that Garak has told her it's God's plan. Fuck Garak. That's all I gotta say, fuck Garak. And I want to tell you about some personal experiences Chrissy and I have had with bringing an extra wife into the situation.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I tried to bring Chrissy in as a third wife, but like the conjoined twins, Jeff had to come with. That's not what I was bargaining for. I want my ring back. I hope you get your ring back, Garak, at least, so you can afford Danielle's divorce paperwork. Because that girl's going to get wise. I have confidence in Danielle, and I have confidence that she is going to get her fucking head back on her shoulders and leave this douche canoesel who God's plan... I guess they've got the show now. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:47:27 That's true. Well, we're all fucked because of TLC. TLC just shows us all the weird things that are going on in the world and keeps it going because they're making these people famous. Right, right. That's right. All right, now let me tell you about some personal experiences Chrissy and I had that'll kind of put some frosting on this cake.
Starting point is 00:47:43 We'll be back. But we do have to take a break, so we'll be back. Well thank the baby Jesus. Brian took a break and now I will use this opportunity to let you know that we've got a brand new phone number. That's right, it's 212-433-3TCB. And you can text us anytime you want. Or you can call and leave us a voicemail and we might just use your message on the show. Once Brian gets through all the messages he missed last year, of course.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Anyway, you can also find and DM us on Instagram at the commercial break and on TikTok at TCB podcast. And of course, all of our audio and video is easily found on tcbpodcast.com. Now I'm going to thank G one more time that we have sponsors, so thank G and here they are. Jared Sussman Number of years back, Chrissy and I had friends who were trying to bring on, I don't know if it was a wife necessarily, but they were trying to bring on a third into the relationship. Yes. And they went through a series of girlfriends, let's say that much.
Starting point is 00:48:51 I don't want to give away too much detail, but they went through a series of girlfriends and for one reason or the other, those girlfriends did not work out. They were trying to bring on young, kind of, I wouldn't say impressionable because I think the girls had enough, you know, they had enough common sense to know what they were getting into. But they tried to bring these women into the relationship because that's what both partners wanted. But it kind of all fell apart because they had children, it was supposed to be a big secret, it didn't end up being a big secret, everyone's feelings got hurt, and then they got broken up with
Starting point is 00:49:22 multiple times. And these were kind of soul crushing breakups, right? So, I understand that there is a desire in some cases for this kind of relationship for a lot of different reasons. Even on Seeking Sisterwives, there is one wife, they have been married for a long time, they had children when they were young, the children are apparently out of the house, they have known each other since they were in grade school, and the wife is pushing the husband to have a relationship outside of the marriage. She wants a sister wife. She desperately wants a sister wife. Actually, in two of the situations in this season, the wife is the one that's kind of driving the conversation here. So, I understand it takes all kinds. Love takes all forms. Shit, if you can get married, they can join twins, then you can certainly have that. There's a sister wife. That's a literal sister wife right there. That's the only
Starting point is 00:50:08 situation where there's no choice in the matter, right? But I think I understand from just watching, observing this on the outside, that it's a really difficult thing to navigate. It's got to be. I think our friends had actually the best of intentions. I don't think at the end of the day that they were a Garrick, but this drives me fucking bananas when the husband just purposefully ignores his actual wife in an effort to get new young tail and then claims that God is telling him to do this. God is not worried about Garak and his third wife. I am promising you this, he doesn't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:50:52 There's war all over the, there's so many things to deal with in this world, on this earth, in this universe. You think God is bothering talking to Garak about his second hot young Latina wife? No! No machismo! No! I guarantee you not! Is it to like have kids too? I mean, is that with the premises? No! Garrick doesn't want kids! He wants his dick wet! That's what he wants! I thought it was for kids. To populate the earth! Populate the earth. No, that's sister wives, actual sister wives. He spread his seed far and wide from Seattle to Denver. I mean, that guy was jizzing all over the place.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Does he have like 27 or something? 27 children, I think. It's in the 20s, there's no doubt. And then he's got grandchildren and grandbabies and they have grandbabies. I don't know, he's got so many. But poor Cody is only left with one wife. Ask Cody how it worked out, Garak. I bet he wanted to get his dick wet at first, too. Ask him how things turned out. That guy is miserable. And you know what? God bless America he's miserable, because he was such an ass-climb to all those women and all those children, and now he's getting his comeuppance. God is not interested, in my opinion, and I am agnostic. I believe in a universal energy that has some hand in this, and I believe we're all part of that universal energy. Don't ask me what my beliefs are because I'll bore you for three hours. But at the
Starting point is 00:52:28 end of the day, what I do think I understand is that God could care, she could care fucking less about whether Garrick is getting married to some Latina or staying with Danielle for the rest of his life. God don't give no shits. And I hate when people start bringing in God as a reason to do just things that are just not cool. That's been going on for forever. I know. There's another couple on there. This is kind of creepy, actually. Let me tell you the story, a story about Sister Wife, season number one or two. There was a woman and a man who wanted a sister wife. They had some lady come in for a week or two into their
Starting point is 00:53:02 house to make sure that they, she fit into the family and with the kids and with all that. That woman, I think you know this story. Well, I remember watching some of this. Yeah, probably here in the studio because Catfish and TLC are the official shows of the commercial break. We've been watching Catfish like a year. It's the only good thing that's on in the afternoon besides news and who wants to be bored by that? It's all bad. There's nothing good. Anyway, they have a relationship and then after the relationship broke up, she ended up stalking this lady and then I think there was some murder or something that she killed the husband or the husband died or something like that. She ended up spending some time in jail. Now, I see history repeating itself on season number five, I'll explain why. That
Starting point is 00:53:52 one of the ladies, the couple that I just explained, they had met when they were young and now they're older, they had children when they were very young. They have a relationship with a woman that lives about 12 hours driving away from them. And when the season starts, we don't see this woman, they're actually looking for a new sister wife. They're like out at bars proposing to people to be the sister. It's the weirdest fucking thing in the world, by the way. Yeah, let's skip the whole threesome for a night, that goes straight to wife. And the wife is the one that's approaching the women because the guy is too shy to do it.
Starting point is 00:54:30 So she'll walk over and she's like, hey, do you want to date my husband? That's what she literally asked. And I realized this is TV and it's all set up and this lady knew this question was coming, but it's just fucking weird anyway. It's like, hey, you want to date my husband? No, that sounds like the beginning of a
Starting point is 00:54:45 bad murder romance novel. Date you on a date like that. That's like a Lifetime movie in a can. I know. Hey, you want to fuck my husband? Yeah, sure. Those always turn out great. Let me get involved in that. Yeah. Every Netflix shitty ass movie I've seen turns out great. This shitty ass movie I've seen turns out great. I'm kind of bored today. So they have this girlfriend, they call her a sister wife because they have been dating for nine months. But this sister wife got cold on them and decided she didn't want to talk to them anymore. So now they're trying to find another wife out there in the wild.
Starting point is 00:55:21 They're not having much success. They set up a date that the lady doesn't show. She goes to them says, Hey, listen, I can't put my family through this. It's on TV. Like I'm not interested. You know, but yeah, add in that layer. Exactly. Now you're on TV, which probably is attractive to some people. Probably the only reason why they're getting a date in some cases. So, uh, so the, so then cut to, so they get ghosted, and then cut to the next episode, and this girl has the girl that they have been dating for nine months, all of a sudden out of the blue texted them and says, hey, I really want to see you.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Here is this guy, and I shit you not, in these cutaways that they're doing with this guy. Yeah, little interviews. Yeah. He's like, I have never loved somebody so much in my life. I'm so in love with her, I can't stop thinking about her. And the wife is like, all right. She's smiling the whole time. And I think to myself, how hurtful must this be to this woman?
Starting point is 00:56:22 That you're sitting right there next to your husband, who you've been with forever and ever, and he's talking about how madly in love he is with someone else. And he's never felt that way before. He never felt this way before. He can't get her out of his head. If he could just hold her, she'll melt in his arms. He's putting on Vaseline to make sure his lips are kissable. It's like all the things you don't do with your real wife, now you're doing for your next one. It must be so painful at some level. I mean, or this-
Starting point is 00:56:51 Yeah, you would think. Or this lady just hates her fucking husband and just wants him away from her. That's the only other thing that I could think is that she's like, I've been married for a long time, but I just don't give a shit. But doesn't want a divorce because there's money involved.
Starting point is 00:57:02 There's money and there's kids and there's all this other stuff. I don't even know how you explain that to the kids. You don't explain that to the kids. This is the secret you keep forever. Well, you just thank God it's TLC and I don't think any 22 year olds are tuning in. It's only us 30 somethings that do it. So, okay, so the girl says, I really want to see you come and see me. So they, they're packing their bags and she texts them again and says, I don't want you
Starting point is 00:57:37 to come, don't come. Now listen, they look straight in the camera and he says, they're like in this little cutaway, and he says, this has happened before. And I know she really just needs me there. She'll melt in my arms. When we've gone through bad times before, I just hold her and she just melts in my arms. So we're going anyway. You're going anyway.
Starting point is 00:58:00 She's blocked them on her phone. She's not responding to text messages. They are desperately trying to get a hold of her. They're taking a 12-hour fucking drive to see someone who said, do not come. Yeah. They get to the town and his, this is the weirdest thing I've ever heard. This guy is like- They're like stalking her. Last time we talked to her, she was really upset because she had lost her gym membership.
Starting point is 00:58:23 She couldn't afford a gym membership. And she told me how upset and crazy it was making upset because she had lost her gym membership. She couldn't afford a gym membership. And she told me how upset and crazy it was making her that she couldn't go to the gym because it's something she loved to do. The first thing when they do, when they get into town is go to the gym to pay her gym membership. Then they go straight to her house. Here, here, I've got your gold score. Here's your membership card.
Starting point is 00:58:44 I got it. Look. Look your gold score. Here's your membership card. I got it, look. Look what we did for you. It's active, check your app. You can go to Gold's Gym and we'll hold you hostage. We'll hold you hostage, don't worry about it. Unbelievable. They are stalking this woman. I am thinking to myself TLC. You're really
Starting point is 00:59:12 So they pull up to her house and he's like she's like I want to He's in the back seat hiding I mean, I am hoping that production cleared this with this lady before any of this happened. So what do you do for a living? Oh, I work on this show on TLC. I have to hide. I hide in stalkers back seats and help them track down the person they want to take hostage. It's so crazy. They're driving to this lady's house and he's like,
Starting point is 00:59:48 the wife is like, I really wanna see if her car's out front in her driveway. Let's go to her house. I'll knock on that door, I'm not afraid. And he goes, well, her car could be in the garage. And she goes, the garage has windows, right? And I'm like, oh my God. That is so creepy. I have had this happen to me and it's not fun.
Starting point is 01:00:05 You don't want people at your house uninvited. No. They get to the house and that wife jumps out of that car, jumps that fence, gets right to the front door, looking in the garage windows and rings the doorbell. And I'll tell you what happens next week because that's the end of the episode. But I am thinking to myself,
Starting point is 01:00:20 they just took a 12 hour fucking drive. They are like that astronaut who put on a diaper and went across country to see a guy that was already married that she didn't want to see. Fucking insane. People are insane. Yeah. There's a switch that gets flipped. And I know that switch. It's the love switch, right? You can't get around her head. But then imagine I had a partner, Chrissy would say, hey, right. This is a little unhealthy for you. You know what I'm saying? You're obsessing a little too much over this woman. Like, she's not that good for you. She left you in New Orleans in the ninth
Starting point is 01:00:55 ward because you didn't put on your turn signal. Like, let's just leave this one alone. Imagine Chrissy was like, yeah, let's go to her house. Let's put cameras in her room. Imagine your inside and your outside voices were encouraging you to do the worst thing possible. It's just fucking insane. Who are these people? Well, now I can't wait to hear how it turns out.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Oh, God, I'll show you. You'll have to update us. TLC season five, I think we're five or six episodes in. You can probably get it on demand. You should watch this show. It is really twisted up in a way that TLC is trying its best to make this look all bright and fluffy, like everybody's, you know, like this is perfectly normal. I understand there are people who do this, but it's not perfectly
Starting point is 01:01:45 normal to track down a woman 12 hours away who has said specifically, don't come. I don't care if she invited you a million times in an hour. Once she says, do not come, do not come. Exactly. I'll tell you how that works out. I've done that a few times. Doesn't work out. You show up and she's fucking somebody else, and then that's really heartbreaking. Which in that case, I guess it was best that I did show up, so I could at least get it over with quickly. TLC, what are you doing? You're like, aiding and abetting in this late person's stalking. You're encouraging it by putting cameras.
Starting point is 01:02:20 They're driving up to the house, and the cameraman literally gets on the ground. He's like pointing the camera up toward this guy's face in the front seat. Oh my god. Wow. TLC. What a job. Well, they got to do something because that 90 Day Fiance is getting a little old. Yeah, it's stale. Yeah, it's stale. It's like a conversation inside of a conversation inside of a conversation. Well, I know. I mean, they just, they went too hard on all spinoffs and all of the things. And now they have this show like where the.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Because they had before the 90 days, 90 days after 90 days, 90 days happily ever after. Yeah, 90 days the other way. And now they have 90 days like it's it's Gogglebox where they're essentially watching other people from 90 Day Fiance or watching the new 90 day fiancee and i'm starting to think that the only people who care about what happens on the new 90 day fiance is the people who have already been a 90 day fiance and there's a lot of people that you have to say yeah there's hundreds of them now i don't know i can't keep up yeah no yeah and like the people who have been on forever just keep getting new series and new series It's they're just celebrities now and it's set semi celebrities. Yeah lists celebrities But it's like, you know, they're just panning to the cameras. That's all they're doing
Starting point is 01:03:34 They're making drama for the cameras all that other stuff can't believe it. Don't believe it I still have a soft spot in my heart for 90 day fiancee, but I'm not as invested in it I'm actually watching other stuff, like Three Body Problem on Netflix, which is a great show. Check it out. I've been reading about that. Check it out. All right, you know what else you should check out?
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Starting point is 01:05:06 But I love you. I love you. And best to you. Best to you. Best to you out there on the podcast universe. Until next time, Chrissy and I always say, we do say and we must say, goodbye. Goodbye. Bye. I'm gonna be a good boy I'm gonna be a good boy I'm gonna be a good boy
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