The Commercial Break - Spite Your Way To Success (w. Felicia Day)

Episode Date: December 12, 2023

Bryan & Krissy shoot the shit with Felicia Day (Third Eye, The Guild, You’re Never Weird on the Internet) and discover her prolific career is mostly due to spite. Find Felicia Online: HERE Third Ey...e On Audible: HERE  Support MST 3000 and Watch A Brilliant Show: HERE LINKS Send us show ideas, comments, questions or concerns by texting us, Call / Text: 626.ASK.TCB3  Watch TCB on YouTube Creator: Bryan Green Co-Host: Bryan Green Producer & Audio Editor: Christina A. Thanks To: Gustavo, Tina , Marrianne   

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I think it's a problem that I'm at the point of my holiday shopping journey this year where Instagram now needs to catch up with me. They're showing me ads. I go, I already bought that from you, bitch, a week ago. Hurry up, get me something else, show me, get creative, tired, you bought all that stuff, and more. Hurry up. On this episode of The Commercial Break, it's the ultimate thank you to the people who said that. Yeah, it is. And congratulations to you. Thank you. My career is mostly based on spite. I love that.
Starting point is 00:00:34 You can't tell me what to do. I'm 10th in the budget, sir. We have so much in common. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Oh yeah, cats and kittens welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green, this is my dear friend and the beautiful co-host of the commercial break. Chris and Joy, home the best of you, Chris. Best of you right now.
Starting point is 00:01:00 The best of you out there in the podcast universe. Not sure I'm talking particularly fast today, but I just think one of those moves. The auctioneer mood? Yeah, I've been go-go-go since the moment I woke up. It's like a one thing after the other. You know, the auctioneer of a micro machines. You have micro machines, guys. That's a small stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:17 That's a big one. There's a lot of stuff. I tried to actually do that one time on videotape. Like I tried to do the micro machines thing. No, you can't do it. That's a talent. I can talk fast, but my head gets ahead of my tongue. Yeah, so I often find that I get tongue twisted.
Starting point is 00:01:32 And this was part of the reason why I went to like speech therapy when I was a kid, because not only did I have this weird list and I couldn't roll my arms and all this other shit, but I also would stumble upon my words a lot. Like I had a little bit of a, a little bit of a stumble. I'll call it that. A stumble.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Yeah. And when I, and the speech therapist was like, it's because your brain is moving so fast, your mouth is trying to keep up. I can see that. Yeah. If my hands were trying to keep up, I might actually make some money in this world.
Starting point is 00:02:02 You know what I'm saying? I wanted to tell you, hands were trying to keep up I might actually make some money in this world you know what I'm saying? I Wanted to tell you you were just reading this story this cars for kids the worst commercials in history Oh, I know the jingle someone sending them to court and thank God they're sending them to court Because they need to take that jingle off the fucking a Chrissy I see this commercial at least three times a day. See or hear it on the satellite radio. Three fucking times a day. I'm glad I avoided for some reason.
Starting point is 00:02:30 The day that I hear that commercial on the commercial break, we're done. We're done. Change the name. It's all over. Of course, it has kids in the word, so it would probably never show up on the commercial break. True.
Starting point is 00:02:41 One, eight, seven, seven, cons for kids to make. Kind of me. I'm going to jump off the room. I hate it so much. So they're in court because apparently there's another charity because I guess they're maybe based in New Jersey. But then there's another charity
Starting point is 00:03:00 that's based in Texas that has a very similar name and they were started first. So anyways, they've got here first. Yeah. And this has been, this is, yeah, and this has been going on I guess for years. They keep suing and resuing each other. Well, hopefully, so all those donations, hopefully the taxes, cars for kids will somehow get rid of, yeah, all that, all that money they're making off selling those old cars. It's all going to attorneys fees.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Yeah, that's a problem I have with a lot of these charities. A lot of the charities that we know and that we love, you really got to dig into them a little bit. Because most of them spend a majority of their money raising additional money. And then people at the tops, in some cases, get very wealthy and they spend a lot, they make these big media buys.
Starting point is 00:03:39 And I understand the game you have to play. Like I'm not naive, I get it. In order to get more money, you have to get your name out there. But I would, I personally, one of my big, not one of my big things, I don't have any money, so I can't give anybody anything. Well, one of the things I'm a big fan of is St. Jude's, because I know that St. Jude's, they have a hospital,
Starting point is 00:03:58 they give away free care to children if they walk in the front door if they're lucky enough to get there, right? And so I like that about them. There's some stuff that I can see that's going on that's actually going on. But cars for fucking kids, cars for, and now they take boats and houses. I think the article was saying it was expensive to donate your cars and boats, yet have them towed.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Yes. And then processed and the whole thing and that eats up like 70% of what? Yeah. How could my old condo with no roof, possibly be worth anything that's gonna do anybody and good? And exactly where is the money going? They say cars for kids,
Starting point is 00:04:32 but is it actually going to the kids? I don't know. I mean, the answer is, add on it. Yeah, a little bit, a little bit of it is. You know what I think is going to do? There's a list out there somewhere where you can, if you do a research, stuff like that. You can see what I was actually looking down it.
Starting point is 00:04:44 And I was surprised that how much money was not spent on anything good. Like they just continue fundraising parties, and donor, getaways, and all this other stuff. It's like, wow, I donated $5, and I got nothing, I got a mug, right? Which is fine, I don't need the mug, take the mug, save the money, give it to the kids.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Yeah, keep the mug. What makes me upset is that then you have these bigger donors and they take them like on world-class vacations so that they can get more money out of them. And I'm just like, Do your research kids? Do your homework, children. Do your kids.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Do your research kids before you donate to cars for kids? And I'm not saying they're a bad organization. I don't know that to be true. What you donate to cars for kids? And I'm not saying they're a bad organization. I don't know that to be true. What I hate about cars for kids is that mother f-ing song, that mother fucking song drives me baddy. It drives me loony. To the point where I turn off the radio or the TV when I see it, I just can't deal with that song
Starting point is 00:05:38 being in my head, of course, which it is now. So, of course it is. Did you hear about the big, you know, I know you're into this. So, Did you hear about the big, you know, I know you're into this. So, did you hear about the big Grand Theft Auto? Six coming out? I am very much into that. Are you and you and Jeff, I'm sure,
Starting point is 00:05:55 are waiting on Vated Breath for Grand Theft Auto Six? I know that it's out there, I didn't hear, is there some controversy? There always is. There's no controversy. Well, I mean, it's made up controversy, but it's made up by them so they can promote their game. They dropped the trailer a day early
Starting point is 00:06:10 and they weren't supposed to. Some company was supposed to not supposed to, come on, give me a fucking break. It's like the most transparent PR push ever. However, I will say this, Grand Theft Auto is extraordinarily popular. They have not put out a new version of Grand Theft Auto in 10 years, in a decade. And so everyone's been kind of waiting on baited breath for this new version of
Starting point is 00:06:32 Grand Theft Auto. And so they released the trailer. It's going back to Vice City, which I guess is the original version of this. There's a female protagonist in the lead role right now. I like that. I think her name is going to be Felicia, I think or it might be right about that. Hold on one second. Felicia. I don't want to get the gamers mad at me. Lucia, not Felicia. Felicia Day is another gamer of someone who is known as a gamer who will be with us later on this episode. Chrissy, this episode. And I won't ask her about Grand Theft Auto because I don't think that's her type of game. But flea today is like a super accomplished actress, writer, producer, web series person, gamer, author, violinist,
Starting point is 00:07:15 excepted to G.E.R. Mathematician. I mean, she is so fucking accomplished, Chrissy. It makes the rest of us look terrible, terrible. I, man, I'm gonna say this to her. I get up in the morning and I feel like I've done a good job. Do you know what I'm saying? If I get my kids out the door, on time to school, yeah, I take a shower.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I clean, if I wash my legs, I feel like I've done a really good job. You know what I'm saying? You're giving an extra. I know. Esther was in the, I told this story, but now I've noticed it happens every time. When Esther walks in the shower, I know bathroom while I'm taking a shower, you know, to have
Starting point is 00:07:47 that five minutes of conversation the day we can have without children yelling or screaming. That's right. I instantaneously start washing my legs. It's almost like I'm trying to prove to her that I wash my legs. I'm like, hey, look at me. I'm washing my legs. I kick it up on that stand so it looks sexy. I point my toe out.
Starting point is 00:08:03 My white socks today. Look at that. I'm my toe out, my white socks today. Look at that. I'm a fashionista, dude. Wearing the same safe Ferris t-shirt, I've been wearing since season number one. People are probably like, that guy really doesn't make any money because he should get a new t-shirt.
Starting point is 00:08:17 It's a classic. It's a classic, which is what people say. When they're, it's something's way old and they still like it. You know what I'm saying? It's classic. Look at the pro-jump-hoser. It's classic.
Starting point is 00:08:27 No one gives it shit. But Grand Theft Auto 6 has got everybody all hyped up, but it's not coming out to a 2025. I played Grand Theft Auto in 2015. 2025. Why are they already hyping it now just to get the hype? I don't know, they put out a truck. It's got to be very complicated. I knew a guy who designed games. He was part of a game designing team
Starting point is 00:08:49 And I don't want to give any secrets away. I don't know. I'm talking to the guy in yours It's secrets. He knows secrets. I don't know about the gaming world. I certainly don't I'm a nerd in my own way like in my TLC way like I would think that Felicia will readily admit that she's a nerd, right? Mm-hmm And I really think she's funny. I've think that Felicia will readily admit that she's a nerd, right? And I really think she's funny. I've followed her on Instagram. I know that you've been reading up on her too. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:12 And so I just think she's got a great personality and she's so prolific. She puts out so much material, has put out so much material. And she's got additional projects that she's working on. It makes me feel embarrassed to be a human. I'm like Jesus. When am am I going to get to something? You know, she has an idea for something and she goes out and she executes it.
Starting point is 00:09:31 She finds the money, she finds the people, she writes the stuff, she executes it. She gets called no and she just moves on. She did one of the first, which we'll ask her about, she did one of the first web series called The Gill on YouTube, which got millions and millions and millions of views. And I feel terrible as a human being because I had that idea for a podcast or a podcast two years before I even got a microphone for the commercial break. That's how the lazy I am. And if we get one episode done a day, I feel like we did a good job, right? I'm sure, editor Christina doesn't feel the same way, but, you know, I pay her.
Starting point is 00:10:06 So I guess she's got to deal with it, but, you know, the reality is, when you're that accomplished of a human being, it's hard not to be appreciative of what's going on, like what that person is doing. And I'm very pleased to have her on the show today, because I've got a lot to talk to her about, the least of which, and the reason why this is such an attractive interview to me, is mystery science theater 3000, which, on one occasion, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm because I've got a lot to talk to her about the least of which. And the reason why this is such an attractive interview to me is mystery science theater 3000, which on one occasion,
Starting point is 00:10:30 on the one occasion where someone said something positive about the commercial break to my face, they said, you remind me of kind of like a goofy mystery science theater 3000. Now, I'll take it. I'll take it. Of course I will. I'd be happy to be the same sentence
Starting point is 00:10:43 as mystery science theater 3000 on any day of the week, but this was a nice compliment. However, let's break down the compliment a little bit. The commercial break reminds me a little bit of a goofy mystery science theater 3000. If you've ever seen mystery science theater 3000, which you should, you should, this is a truly classic show and they're making new episodes, hopefully, but it is the most ridiculous thing you've ever seen in your entire life. It is the goofiest of goofy. It can't be more goofy than it is. It literally has a talking robot
Starting point is 00:11:11 that looks like a frying pan. I mean, like, we take the goof. We take the goof. Down, not. We take it off, not. No. How do you be more goofy than mystery science theater 3000? But I think he was drawing the comparison
Starting point is 00:11:24 because we also break down videos and just kind of, you know, make our own little jokes over it, which is what mystery, which is what MST has been doing for a very long time. Yeah. And that makes me super excited to have her and because I am a fanboy of MST and she's been on it recently, but I think the last, I don't know, two or three seasons or something like that. But we'll ask her all about that.
Starting point is 00:11:45 But the other thing that I wanted to mention about Felicia is that not only is she like a pro level violinist, she got accepted to the fucking Julia school that I was reading that about. Is that not insane? That's wild. It's not like a one in six million people or something, make it into Julia. It's very hard. It's very difficult.
Starting point is 00:12:02 And then to choose and not go that route. No. I know. And then to choose and not go that route. No, I know. And then to go to the University of Texas. I mean, probably for a lot of different reasons, maybe it was close to home or whatever. So we'll get into all of that with her when she gets here, but I also wanted to mention, because I think it's important,
Starting point is 00:12:18 is that you should go and listen to her new audio series available only on Audible, and it's called The Third Eye. And she wrote and produced this herself, and Weird Aliankovik is in it. So you must go check this out because anything Weird Aliankovik is in. I'm down for it. He's another like super intelligent guy.
Starting point is 00:12:38 He's, it wasn't me part of Menta. I don't know that for sure, but I, you know, there was some kind of biopic thing that came out. And yeah, very, very intelligent. Yeah, didn't you like it? Like a Hulu series or a Hulu movie or something like that? And who was a Daniel Radcliffe?
Starting point is 00:12:54 Was it Daniel Radcliffe? The guy who used to play Harry Potter? Right, I don't know. Yeah, I think he was the guy who played Weird Daniel. Yeah. Yeah. So I probably got that completely wrong. I think he was on a Roku.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I think he was on a Roku. I think it was on Roku. Good for a Roku. Yeah. You know what got that completely wrong. New people are screaming at me. Oh, it's on Roku. I think it was on Roku. Good for Roku. Yeah. You know, it's really making my life a lot better. It are these, what they call OTT. The streamers who have commercials, but then they have huge libraries of old shows that upseemingly no one would give a shit about.
Starting point is 00:13:18 But now I give a shit about all of them, you know, saying 90210. Was that one that I was about 21 jump street? My own jump street was on. Now the dog, the bounty hunter, if you're into, you know, saying 90210. What's that one that I was about 21, Trump Street? Yeah. Now the dog, the bounty hunter, if you're into, you know, racist bounty hunters, then you're gonna watch that. They have hundreds of channels of this television shows.
Starting point is 00:13:33 It just run back to back to back to back to back episodes. And I'm just so delighted that it's on because it has given me one of my new favorite shows, which is called First Dates. Have you seen this? First Dates. First Dates is a UK show. It has not made its way to America.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I don't know why. It's one of a bunch of BAFTAs, which are like the British Academy Awards, or British Tele-Words, or whatever it is. It's one of a bunch of BAFTAs. And it's a very simple premise, but it, the humanity, the comedy that comes through on these first dates is amazing.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Here's the premise. The producers set up two people that have never met each other. There is a restaurant in London and it's only people who are on first blind dates. So the whole restaurant is full of people who are on the first blind date, right? I guess you can't have a second blind date because unless you're actually blind. There's not there's not many second blind date. I just realized the ridiculousness of what I was saying. So they go and then they kind of call the they put cameras all around and then they call the best of right. They put it into an hour long episode and it's just so fucking fascinating to watch people's of all ages,
Starting point is 00:14:45 all demographic backgrounds, all geographic background. I mean, everybody under this on anybody, amputees, people that are blind, people that are deaf, they put them to get, you know, they put them with somebody who they think might be a good fit. So they're the production companies like the matchmaker. They're the matchmaker. Okay. And there's no indication of how they do this. It's literally you get to know the wait staff and the concierge, right, because they're kind of the ongoing characters in the show. But then every single episode, there's four or five new couples that you get to know through this.
Starting point is 00:15:16 And it is tear jerking at times. It is hilarious most of the time. And then the only question that's asked at the end of the date, they get together in like a room that the producers have set up. They get them together, they ask how the date went and then they said, would you go on a second date? Will there be a second date? That's the only, those are the only stakes in this particular television show. Is will you or will you not go on a second date? Would you or would you not like to go on a second date? And you know, it's about 50-50, I think it's probably the average.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yeah, that sounds about right. But I've watched hundreds of these episodes now. And it came to me because of one of those OTT, one of those streamers think 2B or something like that. Yeah, 2B is big right now. Yeah. And, you know, not that I don't love my Netflix and HBO and Amazon, I love it. I love all of that. But it's expensive.
Starting point is 00:15:58 And so I'm okay watching a commercial here or there. Yeah. I get to watch the content on my own time at my own pace, you know what I'm saying? The only thing I don't like about the OTT streamers is that you cannot fast forward through the commercials. And you can't close out of the commercials. You're not on your iPhone, you can be watching something now on HBO and you can flick it up, and then it's still playing in a smaller screen.
Starting point is 00:16:20 But when you flick it up, when you're watching on the OTT, if the commercials come on, you flick it up to go check your email or something, it just stops. Right. And then you got to rewatch all over again. So I say shame on you for that. But otherwise, I'm inviting you into my life. I'm liking what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:16:33 I am a fan. Aren't you? Do you have any of that shit? Yeah, we've got it all. We do, we do. We do too. We do too. We do too.
Starting point is 00:16:42 We do too. We do too. We do. We do. We do too. We do too. We do too. We do, we do subscribe to all of it at this point because there's some show that I wanted to watch and so you subscribe and then you just don't. I know there's a lot of people that do the whole subscribe for a minute, you know, for a season of something and then unsubscribe. Yeah. But I don't have the time for that.
Starting point is 00:16:56 No, that's why these services that will cancel for you are like so very popular. I've used one of those services for... Oh, you did. I rock it money or something. Yeah, yeah. And this is not a commercial for rock em money, by the way. I'm just gonna be clear about that. But I use one of those services,
Starting point is 00:17:12 and we must have saved, I don't know, $600 a month, because we just have subscription after subscription, app after app that we have never... Yeah. ...could possibly use in a lifetime again. Like, we downloaded it, paid for it for that one thing that we were doing, and then they kept on charging us. I found an app that had been charging me since 2018,
Starting point is 00:17:32 and I don't ever remember using the app. It's not even on my phone anymore. So I cannot for the life of me get them to cancel this because you actually have to contact the company. I send them email after email, email after email. So I'm gonna, I don't know, what do I do? Throw away my card. Is that what I do? Throw away my card and move on to the next one? Because everyone's well, you got to have a new credit card number. You know what I'm saying? And that is the world's biggest pain in the ass. Besides moving, changing credit cards is the
Starting point is 00:17:57 worst thing ever. Because I don't know my numbers. And I'm gonna go re-input them everywhere. Come on. There's got to be a better way to do this, doesn't it? We need to re-input every time. I don't know how we went from flea shaday to re-inputing your? Come on. There's got to be a better way to do this, doesn't there? It's re-input every time. I don't know how we went from Felicia Day to re-inputing your credit card information, but that's okay. To be streaming. Yeah, okay. Blind dates. Okay. Felicia Day is going to be with us. She's here in the next couple minutes. Let's do ourselves a favor. Let's take a short break. Please listen to the commercials. I know you can close out of them, but please don't. Please listen to the commercials. So the commercial break can finally start making somebody.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And then we'll be back with Felicia just right after these messages. Let's cut to the chase. We love you, and we want to hear your sweet and jelly voices asking us for advice. So give us a call and leave us a voice mailail at 626-ask-TCB3. If you're not ready for that kind of commitment, which I understand, send us a text instead at 855-TCB-8383.
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Starting point is 00:21:17 She got it. She knew it. She's in the biz. She is in the biz. I have one overarching question for you. Right off of the bat. How in the booth. She is in the dance. I have one overarching question for you, right off the bat. How in the St. Captain Crunch do you do all the things that you do and still have time to be apparent because if I take a shower in the morning,
Starting point is 00:21:35 I feel extraordinarily accomplished. And you are in so many television shows, you have two podcasts, you have the third eye on Audible, you have so much stuff that you're doing. How do you find the time to accomplish it all? You're making us the rest of us look terrible. I know. Congratulations to you, ma'am. Thank you. Well, I mean, I will say that,
Starting point is 00:21:54 first of all, I don't have dozens of children like you. That's true. Five to 10. Yeah, five to 10. Sometimes six to 12. Depends on what day it is. I have to say ever since I had a kid, I had to readjust my life. A lot of the bulk of the, wow, she does everything was done before I had a kid, I had to readjust my life. A lot of the bulk of the,
Starting point is 00:22:05 wow, she does everything was done before I had a kid. She's six years old now. And I had to really be ruthless about my schedule and what I can concentrate on. And I tried to do it still and then I just drove myself crazy. And then I was like, girl, you gotta get the machete out and just cut it out.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Cut it out. I like this. I make an analogy about having a kid. It's like, you know get the machete out and just cut it out. Cut it out. I like this. I make an analogy about having a kid. It's like, you know when you go on Amazon and you buy a chair or a couch? And then you order it and it comes and it's like eight times as big as you thought it was. That's right. So it's like, what, I gotta get rid of everything around this couch. Yeah, so that's my analogy to parenthood.
Starting point is 00:22:43 I tell Chrissy all the time, I said, when we had our first child, I already felt tired, like I was doing a lot, when I wasn't doing a lot, at all actually. And then there's this pool of energy that somehow I pull from with the first child. And then the second child, then the third child, then the twelfth child. It's like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:22:58 so there's somehow there's this energy to keep going, but the time does, you might don't get more hours in the day. And so I just look at your resume and I am so extraordinarily impressed at you as a human being and how much you've accomplished. And I want to get into a little bit. Oh, yeah. Thank you. You've worn and hunts fill Alabama, which is not too far off the road
Starting point is 00:23:17 from from. I was excited to hear you got y'all were in Atlanta. I can tell you how people going, oh, They've got a big space program over there too. Oh yeah, I went to space camp. Yeah, I bet you went to space camp also. I never got to go, but my grandfather was a nuclear physicist. So he worked at Lockfield. He also worked for the government.
Starting point is 00:23:37 And then my uncle actually helped design, you know, the arm on the space station. Yeah, I got a lot of science in my family. Yeah, it's so great. So it's in your DNA. Yeah. I got a lot of science in the family. Yeah. So it's in your DNA. Yeah. She comes from a line of overachievers, because she's the most lived best.
Starting point is 00:23:49 That's right. You're born in Huntsville, but you were homeschooled, right? For most of your childhood? I was. My dad was in the, I come from military families. So my dad's family, my dad's dad was worked on Redstone Arsenal. He was like, I think it's Lieutenant Colonel or something like that or a full Colonel.
Starting point is 00:24:08 And so my dad was in the military. He enlisted in order to get his medical degree done. And so we moved around everywhere. He lived a lot in Mississippi and all around the South Texas, Louisiana everywhere. And so that's how I kind of became homeschool because we would move around so much. My mom was just like, well, I don't want to keep me rolling human school.
Starting point is 00:24:31 So it's just stay in the house. Yeah. Fair enough. I've got this. Did you enjoy homeschooling? But there, but I read. You're like the opposite of somebody, by the way, that I feel like is the typical homeschool
Starting point is 00:24:42 stereotype. Well, you're so outgoing and so beautiful and have done so much. It has been a monumental effort for me and a lot of therapy to get. Yeah, I'm going. I'd rather be in my house any day of the week. Well, I was not homeschooled and I'll tell you what, I'm keeping my therapist's mortgage paid. But you went to one year of like, did you go to a private school one year, like the second grade?
Starting point is 00:25:14 Yeah, it was first grade. I went to preschool and a little bit of kindergarten and a half of first grade. And then my mom pulled me out because it was like, she sent me to this super religious school and they, this is a true story. They actually had chapel every day, which it's fine. And it was really, I guess, very reputable school in Huntsville. But then one day in chapel, I remember this woman, Miss Geraldine, held up a bunch of $20 bills and just burned them and told me that it was the devil's fuel, was money.
Starting point is 00:25:41 And we were so poor that my mom was like, no, I've never said anything about it. Yeah, I'm not going back there. So she burned the $20 bills in a, almost a protest station to one, to first graders, that money was, I'm telling you, this is 100% happened and as a kid who only got her stuff from good, well, I was like,
Starting point is 00:26:00 no, give it to me with the money. I mean, even as a five year old, I was like, no, that money is precious. I needed. I mean, even as a five year old, I was like, no, that money is precious. I need it for my mom. So yeah, she just pulled me out. She was like, this is not happening. And we just never went back. And I'm not saying that it was the most thorough education,
Starting point is 00:26:14 but I turned out fine. Ish. I would say so. I think you're okay. I had to have something had to have gone right for you to become, you know, graduated with 16. You grad. No, she, I read that you graduated of college
Starting point is 00:26:26 at 19 years old, you went to college at 16? Yeah, I went to college at 16, it was, I was 20 when I graduated, and then I just, I got a math and a music performance degree because I was so poor at home, I would just practice my violin all day. And so, because, now I'm getting a Southern accent, y'all. Yeah, come on down, the water's warm.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Come on down, the water's warm. Yeah, I'm from Chicago, so, I mean, I'm getting a Southern accent y'all. Yeah, come on down the water's cool. Come on with it. Yeah, from Chicago. So, I mean, I am, but I've been here for almost 30 years. So it's not like I just fell off the turn up chart from Chicago. I think mine may be a little bit more. So, she's a little bit more Southern than I am. Yeah, yours is pretty, you're not like Madonna
Starting point is 00:26:58 who just moves to England. It's pretty cool. Yeah. Madonna can be quite ridiculous. Yeah, you know, you be here. I'm not going to judge anybody if nobody's being harmed. Just do what you need. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Fair enough. You're facing your voice. Yeah, so I forget what you asked me. You should delightful. I asked you. You graduated 20 years old. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:21 But because my dad was like, you can't be an actor in Hollywood until you get a quote unquote real degree. So I was like, I'll show you and I got my math degree and my violin degree and I was like, on a bus, Chulose, Angeles to be an actor. No reason why. I still can't figure it out. Just on a whim and say you went to UT in Austin. UT Austin?
Starting point is 00:27:40 Yeah, it was a big, that's a big college, just like 50,000. Oh yeah, that's a huge story. Definitely, yeah. That's a good, that's a big college, just like 50,000. Oh, yeah, that's a huge. That's a lot. Yeah, that's a good, different. That's gotta be a culture shock. But let me tell the listeners, she went to university of Austin in Texas, but got accepted to Juilliard.
Starting point is 00:27:55 So you are a homeschooled young lady, went to one year off of what they would call regular and classroom education. And you got accepted to Juilliard and university of Texas Austin. Like, my mind is blown. It's complicated to understand. It was only because I was bored.
Starting point is 00:28:10 I'm telling you, man, I had hours a day. Kids, they go to school, they learn maybe an hour and a half, and then they're just kind of house there. Like, that's fine. It's what we need in this world. It's not, I don't know if it's, so I was just home all day, and I had no friends. So what am I going to do? I'm going to play video all day and I had no friends, so what am I gonna do? I'm gonna play video games and I'm gonna play the violin.
Starting point is 00:28:27 So I don't know, I think it was just a question of like, it got some time, you gotta fill it up. It's the opposite of my life now. I got no time as a parent and somebody who hasn't tried to have it a career. And then as a kid, I'm just like, dude, dude, what am I gonna do today? Watch Lost in Space and play my violin.
Starting point is 00:28:42 That's it. Do you have any kind of like regular interactions with children when you're homeschooled? I'm just so fascinated to understand how you ended up being so well-rounded. Did you like? I'm not well-rounded. I'll tell you that. I mean, it's a complete artifice. I'll tell you that right now.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Well, you are an actress. I've been having any friends. Yes, I'm an actor. I can act like I'm socially adept. I am not. You know, it was really, I contemplated homeschooling my kid because I do feel like there's some awesome things like, you know, that I was able to get from that experience. Like, I love learning outside of grades. I just like reading, I love learning things.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I'm very good at a bunch of different extracurricular, I was a really great dancer. I was a good, you know, I did theater, I did my violin, I did karate, I did a lot of ex, basically my life was just extra curriculars. So I have huge gaps when it comes to like geology or getting along with other people, but at the same time, I know a lot of really good stuff. So I did contemplate it and I think if you're conscientious
Starting point is 00:29:40 and you create sort of a social world for your kid, homeschooling could be really, and you have the bandwidth, it's come schooling would be awesome, but my mom didn't, you know, I think she could have made more efforts in the social side, and so we didn't really have a lot of interaction
Starting point is 00:29:54 with other kids outside of lessons. So that's how I socialize, kind of in the back room between ballet classes. So you've got a little bit of a taste of what it was like to be out there in the real world, but for the most part, you insulated, and that little brain of yours just exploded because you were obviously super smart and accomplished even at a young age because you're going to college at 16. What is it like going to college at 16 years old? I mean, you have a total fish out of water.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Nobody would date me legally. They could. I was a forebought, I was forebought and people were like, ah, they're getting away from me like a cross at a vampire. I didn't even think about this. You're right, it's completely illegal to state that girl. Just showed up at college. Wow, did you date anybody in college? Like, did you have any experiences? Not many, well, I had to wait several years.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And then I did date a percussionist because I thought the way he played the Marimba was really hot. But that was the percussionist. Yeah, percussionists are cool. They are. Classical music percussionists can play a lot of things but drummers in general just hot, right?
Starting point is 00:31:01 Yeah, they are. I have to agree with you. I have to agree that the drummer's hot. I was in bandalm all of my education. Also, I played saxophone. Third chair saxophone, I have to agree with you. I have to agree that the drummer's hot. I was in bandalim all of my education. Also, I played saxophone. Third chair saxophone, I'm really proud of it because there was a fourth chair. So I beat somebody out.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Um, but fucking Russell. Russell always got first chair. Oh, damn it. Damn it. Damn Russell. But those drummers, what's Russell doing now? I know, I was going to say. Russell still plays this saxophone,
Starting point is 00:31:24 where I haven't had a saxophone in 10 years. Russell's still playing the saxophone and he's so good at it. And I wish I would have stuck with him, but I didn't. But I will tell you this, is that even with a saxophone in my hand, no girl paid attention to us. They paid attention to the drummers because the drummers had longer hair and they were sexy and they were cool and they could play the drums really good. I don't know what it is about drummers. I should tell my kids this. Get into percussion.
Starting point is 00:31:47 That's what the accent is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not like, for some reason it's way hotter than a guy pulling out an acoustic guitar and a party. That's like, that's the most disgusting thing I've ever seen in my opinion at a party. Like, just get away from me, sir. Yeah. I will not be seduced, here, sir. Yeah, exactly. Felicia, I have to tell you this story. So I'm on Instagram the other day and I've got this guy that I was friends with once. It's like one of those people that you meet
Starting point is 00:32:11 and for like six months, you guys go out and have a beer occasionally, but then you never talk to him again. He is on my Instagram and he is throwing a house party for Christmas. And there's probably, I don't know, let's get say 25 people. It all looks very lovely. It's a very rather adult affair, everyone's drinking wine.
Starting point is 00:32:25 And but he posts in this story, then the last, uh, real, in the story is him sitting on the couch while everyone's gathered around playing acoustic guitar. A terrible cover of a terrible song. And whoever's doing the camera pans around to the faces and they're all one by one, I think it was what turned out. But you put a brand to the faces and everyone just desperately looking for it out. They're all like, are they serving more cheese? Is there more cheese? Because I'm going to go over there and eat it.
Starting point is 00:32:58 And I thought to myself, I was that idiot for a long time. I thought that the accrued stick guitar. But you got your saxophone at a party, no, what are you getting? I learned how to play guitar just as terribly as I learned how to play saxophone so occasionally. So talk, so talk, so talk, which means I know three songs that I play. And then I put it down and I say, that's enough for now, everybody. And they thank me. for now, everybody. And they thanked me. So when you go to, when you graduate with this dual degree in math and music, do you take music theory, by the way? Oh, yeah, all of it. I took ear training, all, you know, history.
Starting point is 00:33:35 You went through all of it. Yeah, I had to do all of it. It was fun. I mean, some of it was on, I was wonderful. I just didn't really see that I was going to be, I did a lot of like gig playing as well to pay, you know, I actually, it was a very good job. I just didn't really see that I was gonna be, I did a lot of like gig playing as well to pay, you know, I actually, it was a very good job. I would play lots of like church services and weddings, and that's why I will never have a wedding because I've seen the dog employee side of a wedding. I'm like, never, this is a horror show.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Yeah. And I was just like, I didn't know what I was gonna do. I didn't know, I didn't think, hey, this is it. I'm gonna do the same thing I was doing. I was in the symphony in often. I was playing all these gigs. I was making a good living. I was like, what more is there?
Starting point is 00:34:11 And so I needed to jump in a wild blind pool to see what would happen. It was, you know, traumatic and interesting. When you get on the bus, do you like literally get on a bus and go to L.I.? Are you picking up your stuff again? No, I'm all teared. No, no, no, I have never been on a bus.
Starting point is 00:34:26 I'm sorry, I didn't go to school. So you never got on a bus. I volunteered for a lot of film festivals while I was in Austin. If you know this about Austin, they do a lot of indie films. So I was like a volunteer for South by Southwest and Austin Film Festival and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:41 So when I moved to LA, I didn't take a bus. I knew a lot of people at least. So I did have sort of a network of people I knew who helped me. And I saved up all my money from playing the violin because I lived at home the whole time, which is so sad. But at the same time, I did have a nice nest egg to get me at least a year in.
Starting point is 00:34:58 You're also 16 years old. So I mean, we're fast, which is funny. 20, yeah. Oh, 20 when you graduated. Yeah, okay, gotcha. Yeah, yeah. When you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you moved to LA, so you like get into this network of people that you already knew from the film festivals in Austin and South by Southwest.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And so you go there and what, like, how do you get into the business? You just, what's that decision? What's that first audition like? It was a backstage west, a backstage west was like a paper that used to be printed and it had like non-union jobs in there. And I did a bunch of student films with no dialogue.
Starting point is 00:35:32 I did auditions where I go and they'd asked me to take my clothes off just for the character. And so I had to go through, yeah. And then I, it was like two years before I even got the legitimate agent. So it was very hard for me. And as somebody who was a 4.0 student
Starting point is 00:35:49 and always worked, I practiced eight hours a day on the violin, I was like, if I just practice more, I'll get ahead. And that is not how Hollywood works. Yeah, well, can imagine. So when you have 4.0, you're highly accomplished. You're playing eight hours a day. Do you, is this a recurring theme in your life?
Starting point is 00:36:07 Like I have to win, I have to get the 4.0, I have to get the A, I have to be the best in the violin. Is this a recurring theme in your life? And when exactly do you break? Because it's so fun. I broke, no, it's true, I did. And like when I look back, I even broke, I wrote an autobiography called,
Starting point is 00:36:24 you're never weird on the internet almost I saw that we read it. Yeah, it's really you know, it's really funny if you like a geeky girl. It's very good And if there's one story I told where one of the math professors was like Felicia if you just got to be your life would be so much better. I was like no I think back on that moment. I was like yeah yeah, it would have made my life better because the whole, this false sort of like front, I needed to put up for everybody of being perfect and being the best. It is, you're right, it's just something ready to break.
Starting point is 00:36:55 It is. And I definitely did break myself later when I started a company and I just was making like 40 hours of video a month that it was just insane. And at a certain point, you've got to care for yourself and not just worry making like 40 hours of video a month that it was just insane. And, you know, at a certain point, you've got to care for yourself and not just worry about your outsides. And I broke and that was probably
Starting point is 00:37:12 when I started becoming a functional human or at least pretended. I see some of my kids, they get anxious sometimes when they don't do something right or they can't get something. And I'm always just quick to remind them that you're perfectly imperfect. Like, no one's gonna get it right 100% of the time
Starting point is 00:37:25 and there are in my mind, there are huge lessons in failure. And from a guy who's failed more often than he's succeeded, I understand that. Yeah, yeah, it's very true. My biggest left-life lessons come from failure. Now, I was never a 4.0 student, it does not say I didn't try, but I was never a 4.0 student,
Starting point is 00:37:43 but do you kind of wish you had had that B in that class so that it would have like... 100%. Yeah, it may have. 100%. I wish I had been a total slacker, just like... Doing, like, whatever it is in a closet, you need to be doing as a total person
Starting point is 00:37:57 who isn't applying themselves. I 100% do that. And like, for my daughter, like, I think you're, that's a wonderful thing to give as a parent a I'm a mindset of growth, personal growth versus trying to achieve for other people. And when she wants to drop out of a lesson, I'm like, okay, great. And I know that she'll probably use it. You try to, me one day, like, yeah, you tried it. If it's not for you, I'm not going to make this you. And also,
Starting point is 00:38:19 if she tends to be something really good at something, I'm not gonna be like, great, now you're a violinist, go! You know, that's right, people use that. Yeah, I mean, I think when you teach as a person, when you put so much internal pressure on yourself to accomplish someone, what some people might call the pursuit of perfection, you're just so in the seeds of your own disappointment, right? There's not such thing as perfect
Starting point is 00:38:43 99% of the time in this world and so I think it's just such an important lesson to learn about failure. But one that I did not learn myself until I started the commercial break and then I was like, it just can't be perfect. It just can't be perfect. I can't put out these many episodes and be perfect every time.
Starting point is 00:39:00 I have to give myself some grace here, some grace and some space. When you got to Hollywood, did you, originally you were a commercial actor, like you were doing commercial commercials? I did a lot of commercials. If you look on YouTube, you can see me eating Cheetos and selling starbursts
Starting point is 00:39:16 and all, you know, like 20 different products. And I was so blessed because I tended to do really well in those situations. Yeah. And I paid my bills, but I was super unfulfilled. And I had such an anxiety problem that when I got really close to anything like legitimate and theatrical, not that commercials aren't legitimate,
Starting point is 00:39:35 but like anything like TV show wise. Yeah, I would just choke. I would be so nervous that I could not control myself, because again, I had this idea that I needed to be good nervous that I could not control myself. Because again, I had this idea that I needed to be good for everybody else and not mess up. And you're totally right. Like, you grow as a person. And being a perfectionist is more like, I need to be stuck in who I am right now. And I need to hold it with all my might. Whereas if you make mistakes, you know, you push yourself to places that you never would have thought you be. And so I wish I could have just told myself that or given myself some Xanax either way
Starting point is 00:40:08 right? I always tell. Alicia, I think that therapist is working. I think that therapist is working. Let me ask you something about commercial work because I've always been curious about this but never talked to anybody that did like a Cheetos commercial. I talked to some people that had done like the local, you know, Bob, me, for instance, can promote into a real estate channel.
Starting point is 00:40:28 I'm cable network. Chrissy used to do infomercials about retirement villages. Local, like public access. It's crazy. Oh, I see that on YouTube. I'll send a clip. Yeah, we will send a clip. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Yeah. Um, so besides doing, you know, Bob Hammock's local Ford dealership type of commercials, when you do those, We will get the clue. We will get the clue. We will get the clue. We will get the clue. We will get the clue. We will get the clue. We will get the clue. We will get the clue. We will get the clue. We will get the clue. We will get the clue.
Starting point is 00:40:51 We will get the clue. We will get the clue. We will get the clue. We will get the clue. We will get the clue. We will get the clue. Besides doing, you know, Bob Hammock's local Ford dealership type of commercials. When you do those national commercials, there's good money in that, isn't there?
Starting point is 00:41:00 Like, you get paid a pretty good chunk of change to do those commercials. You used to. I will say that, I don't know if you guys were familiar that we just had a big strike. It was a magical team, a movie strike, but the same thing happened with commercials. And unfortunately, the result of the commercial strike several years ago made a lot of who go a non-union. So like, and a lot of them are not playing on network, and of course streaming and cable will don't pay as much. So unless you got one of those Super Bowl ads, you're not making a good living.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Like back in the day, I would do two commercials, and I pretty much have my bills, at least, my assistants paid. And anything else I got was kind of gravy. And that was like, you can't really do that nowadays. Unfortunately, you do a lot and then you'll get your day rate. And maybe a little tiny bit of residuals, but you won't get those big paydays that people used to get, which is, you know, it's frankly sad. It's really hard to be a middle class actor now. And that's one of the examples. But, you know, it's frankly sad. It's really hard to be a middle class actor now. And that's one of the examples. But, you know, it was a good living. It kept me in the business
Starting point is 00:41:49 because I think I would have quit and gone back to violin if I couldn't have paid my bills at all for years. It took me to get into a place where I can get TV work. Do you think you would feel fulfilled as a violinist? Like, do you ever look back on that and go, man, I'd love to be sitting in a chair somewhere, you know, playing in front of a couple thousand people as a violinist? You know, I, again, I know what my life would have been like.
Starting point is 00:42:11 I had to teach. I would have done my weddings and church, you know, in Easter and then I would have been in the symphony and then maybe done some cool, like gig work, session work. And that would have been it. And, yeah, I think if you look at my resume, you'll see a ton of stuff. And earlier, you're like, how do you do it? I was like, I just changed my mind every time I do something. So I'm saying, yeah, I get more like that too.
Starting point is 00:42:33 I'm just like, I don't want to do what I did before. And I just jump into it. I want to see what'll happen. And that's why I did this, you know, audible project. And then I'm doing a stage play next year. And it's like, can you just settle on something? Hopefully, you don't know, absolutely can't can't. Tell us about your audible project. Yeah, tell us a little bit about the audible project.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Yeah, so the audible project is called Third Eye. It's a fantasy comedy adventure and it's kind of like a TV show for your ears. So it's like seven hours of a TV show that it's only audio and it stars me and Neil Gaiman and Will Wheaton and Sean Aston and all these amazing people weird Al does a cameo for me. He's amazing and it's about a failed chosen one who kind of gets her life blown up by this girl who comes in and Amiris her for the first time in her life because she actually failed her big Battle with the big bad guy and life has been crap for all the supernatural creatures sense. So it's kind of like if Harry Potter choked what would happen?
Starting point is 00:43:28 Can you tell you later? I love it. And it's been very successful by the way. And you can catch it. Just let me tell the listeners, you can catch this exclusively on Audible by the way, and for Amazon. Yeah, audible.com slash third out, you can download it. And yeah, it was a TV show that I originally pitched that nobody wanted to buy.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I loved it so much. And I love that you're talking about the perfectionist's or because this show is kind of about that. Like it's about a woman who fails, who was supposed to be the chosen one. And she chokes and like, how do you live with yourself as a perfectionist who let everyone down? And that's kind of like when I broke, quote unquote,
Starting point is 00:44:04 after overworking, I experienced that. I was like, I'm a failure. Nobody wants to be around me. And I kind of channeled that into the show. And again, got some free therapy out of it. Ha, ha, ha. Amazing. I'll go and do that free therapy.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Chrissy, we've had like 500 hours of free therapy right here at the commercial break. Ha, ha, ha, ha. I think we win just because we put out so much content from here on. You can't get away from us. When you start a project like this, how long did it take you to write? What eventually became seven hours of audio fantasy? I know that must be extremely difficult.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Must be a long time. Well, if you'll look at my resume, you'll notice that I came from short form videos. So I created one of the very first web scripted web series. The video was just when YouTube started. It was called The Guild. It was awesome. It's awesome. Yeah, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:44:54 You're welcome. And thank you. And so basically, this is the opposite of that. So I had the privilege of closing my contract right before COVID started. And I had three years to basically write this thing, and it almost took that long to get through all the revisions and recording and all of that.
Starting point is 00:45:11 So yeah, it was a different process for me, but it actually gave me confidence to kind of work for myself versus other people, and that really was a lesson that I hope I'll take to the grave. That's a great feeling. Yeah. You shopped this around to all the TV networks, and they just all kind of were not interested, lesson that I hope I'll take to the grave. That's a great feeling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:25 You shop this around to like to all the TV networks, and they just all kind of were like, not interested, not interested, not interested. And at some point, you're like, okay, I'm gonna do this regardless. I'm doing this. Well, yeah, I was kind of like that except there was a couple years of depression
Starting point is 00:45:38 between these two things. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Hollywood is like Uros shoe salesman, and you're going to every door knocking and say, hey, do you like my shoes? And nobody wants your shoes, generally nobody wants your shoes. And really, you should have the resilience to like put those shoes away and get another pair out and go knock on the door.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Do you like these shoes? And that is really the Hollywood life. Unfortunately, I love these shoes so much that I just kind of put them in a closet And I put myself in the closet and I stared at them for two years and cry It must feel good that people are enjoying it that people like it that it's you know that that it's out there And you manifested this on your own. I mean it must just feel super Great that you took this places people poop who did it, you said, hey, I'm gonna go do this anyway. And it became a success.
Starting point is 00:46:26 It's the ultimate F you to the people who said that. Yeah, it is. And congratulations to you. Thank you. My career is mostly based on spite. If you told me, I love that. I mean, you can't tell me what to do. Hey, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:46:43 I'm 10th on the budget, sir. Thanks, Ryan. We have so much in common. You can't tell me what to do. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:46:51 I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm of the things that, when I'm looking over your life and I'm reading about you and we're doing research about you, one of the things that hits me is that you and I
Starting point is 00:47:09 are of similar age and me being a little bit older than you, by the way, and you look much better than I do. But you, it's all a Hollywood, it's a Hollywood. No, I'm just kidding. It's been me or Markovard. Yeah, really. My dad, well, here's the irony, my dad's a plastic surgeon. What?
Starting point is 00:47:25 He just retired. So now all the work I need done, I can't get that for free. And I'm like, dad, this is not good timing. I know. Your dad cannot even hook you up with a little bit of Botox here in there. No, illegal. And he's, you know, he was in the military.
Starting point is 00:47:40 He's like, no, sorry. Very strange. Very black and white. Yeah. I don't know. Let me get you. Let me get white. Yeah. I don't know. Let me get to your dad. We'll have a few drinks and I'll see if he can just cut me up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Put some food in his hand. Get in there, sir. I'm losing my butt. Can you put some things in there to stuff it up? The older I get, the less butt I get. One of the things that I recognize about the parody in our life, or really not the parody in our life, is that we were born no internet. We come into adolescence and some form of internet is coming, right?
Starting point is 00:48:10 Emails and dial up and AOL and all this other stuff. You really embrace this from the get. You're like, you are one of the first web series on YouTube. You're there, you're in it, you're embracing it. And that really, I think, tells a story about how you just had the foresight to understand that this platform, called collectively, the internet, could be a great place for a creative outlet. Did you, am I reading that right? Were you like, from the beginning, you were like, oh my gosh, this is a great way that I can, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:39 get out there or do things. No, okay, great. You must admire me more than I do myself. So, but no, I mean, listen, let me repeat, I was locked in a house with a computer in a violin. Yeah, okay. So that was my childhood. And actually my grandfather being a nuclear physicist used the early internet because it was primarily for scientists. Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:57 He gave us a computer and I used like early, early internet, like compious serve and all these services that went bankrupt before the internet started. So yes, you're right, I was way before the internet started. So yes, you're right. I was way before the times there. But like, when I wrote the Guild, I wrote that as a television show too. And nobody wanted to do it because they
Starting point is 00:49:13 didn't understand that people could play games together online at that time. It was like 2006 or 2007. And so when my friend who had done some sketch comedy was like, hey, we could do little videos and upload them. I was like, I'm desperate because I've been rejected so much by Hollywood, let's just do this. And the minute I got comments on a video
Starting point is 00:49:31 and I got a hold of fans who actually enjoyed my work. I was like, oh, I could do this myself and people enjoy it. I'm not making money, but I love it. And it was the fulfillment that I needed in my life that I didn't have anywhere else. And we are living in a beautiful time when people can do that.
Starting point is 00:49:47 They can make a podcast, they can make a video, they can make anything they want, a book, and they can, you know, the release of it. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I totally agree with you. I mean, if it wasn't for the RSS feed, that's Chris, you know, I would still be too
Starting point is 00:50:02 unknown human beings knocking around somewhere. And the one, I do think the beautiful thing about the day and age that we're in now is that no matter what you're into, no matter who you are, no matter what message you have to deliver, good, bad, or indifferent, creativity, no, no bounds, and you will find the audience, or the audience will find you. If you keep at it and you know where to, you know, serve up the, the goods, so to speak. And I think you just... Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I mean, listen, there's a lot of people, people who tick, tick talk and podcasts, but there are people talking about things that mainstream Hollywood would never be okay with. I'm looking on tick talk and people are animating, you know, stuffed taxidermy mice. And I'm like, I wanna watch more of this. Nobody in Hollywood would say, go with it,
Starting point is 00:50:45 but it's just beautiful. And talking about women's issues, like I saw, there's a huge underground thing about menopause and women who have no voice in mainstream media, they're huge on TikTok, because people are like, hey, no one's talking about that. I wanna go here and I wanna learn about it. I wanna learn about the Roman history. I want
Starting point is 00:51:05 to learn about the bird health. Everything you can get serves people's interests and people have people are just so much more interesting than Hollywood lets them be. I understand you had a appeal to a mass audience, but that's not the world anymore. That's what I love about the time we're living in. I mean, I think Hollywood has its place, right? It is there to serve the mass audience, the mass entertainment and good, but really what sits under that, and even under that, the sub-subcultures, are people who are finding and becoming more themselves
Starting point is 00:51:36 by connecting with other people who enjoy the similar things that they do, or the creative tastes, or their opinions, or whatever it is. I mean, there's something to be said, I think also for kind of living in a coach Amber, so to speak, but that's a whole different conversation. But I, Yeah, well, yeah, that's exactly that.
Starting point is 00:51:49 You're right, there's good and bad. There's good and bad. But it's like everything in life, right? There's good and bad. And you just have to kind of roll with the punches, but it does allow, like, you know, the RSS feed allows us to find an audience. Otherwise, we would have never known
Starting point is 00:52:00 that we'd start to try this. And the world would be poor for it. Oh, that's very sweet. And that's the first time anybody said anything nice about the commercial break. Wrap that up. Interviews over. Let's just come here and talk again, Felicia, and just pop each other up. Yeah, we'll just pop each other up.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I love this. We'll call each other every Monday morning, but I'm ready to knock back to through. Oh, I can't read you back. Yeah. Colin from Atlanta. Oh. When, let me ask you about when you start to get into TV, because I think this is probably where most people will know you from. What do you think is you're like,
Starting point is 00:52:37 what do you consider your big breakout role after the commercials and you're starting to get into some television roles? What do you think is the thing that I go, oh wow, I really, I'm accomplished now. I have a good credit for my name. It was, I did a movie called Bring It On Again and then I got a role name. I'm Buffy.
Starting point is 00:52:54 And so I think it was Buffy because I had never been like recurring on anything. I ended up doing seven or eight episodes in the last season of that show. And that was really, I felt a belonging on a show. I felt like even though every, every week we get a new script, right? And this is when they actually dropped off paper scripts. This is a long ago. Now it's just email. And you literally flipped to the back page to see if you got killed or not. Yeah. So like there was no job security because it was a sci-fi show. But at the end
Starting point is 00:53:25 of the day, like I got to stick around until the end of this and I got to see how being on a show really creates a family and you know, it's probably dysfunctional whatever. But at the end of the day, I felt like I found a place where I belong, especially in the nerd and sci-fi world because as you'll see behind me, I have board games and comics and video game things. I love those, those are my interests and my hobbies and my passions and I made my whole career around them because that's who I am. You are a verified nerd girl. You are verified nerd and I love it. I love every minute of it. Yeah, I love all that stuff too. So what is it?
Starting point is 00:53:59 And it's hard to say that you love that stuff, especially as a woman. And so like I was just like, I've found my niche man. Let's just do it. Well, my dad's a huge nerd. And so that just, I think, really would be one dude. Yeah, so it was mine. He's an engineer, went to Georgia Tech, and just we had computers and all of the, I mean, your dad's the same way, Brian.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I know we talk about him. My dad had the first desktop computer ever. And what he did was, he put a desktop in his office at he worked in the meat packing plant in Chicago which a lot of people did is a huge you know meat packing town and so he puts a computer there and he puts a computer here at the house and he connects them via telephone line so one of those old modems where you would stick the phone on the modem and it was making sounds back and forth, right? And so my dad, I know, like, we're science.
Starting point is 00:54:51 And then the damn printer, the damn printer, so my dad would like go home at night and he would finish his work at the computer and then it would be at his computer the next day. So it was like an early form of the internet, right? He was communicating and he set this all up himself. He is nerd to the core. And he's really like a technology first kind of person when he finds out about some new technology
Starting point is 00:55:17 and he thinks it's interesting. He really gets himself into it. So we grew up around that culture. But I was one of those guys like when the internet came along, honestly, I swear to God, I was like, internet's a fad. It's gonna go away in a couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:55:30 It's only good for bankers and meat packing people. It's like, it's not gonna stick around. I just was so off base about it. I think it my first email address, so I was like, 20 years old. So, our lives are not,'re dissimilar in that way. When you go out into the universe, right? You're out there shopping or whatever.
Starting point is 00:55:51 People recognize you, they go, oh my gosh, hey, it's WeChat Day. What are they most, what is the project that they most refer to? Is it supernatural? Or is it mystery science theater 3000? You know, I could tell you your MSTM, you're a mystery.
Starting point is 00:56:08 No, it's not, it's not MST3K, although I am very privileged to be on that show. It's probably supernatural or the guilt, because if you know, the guilt got millions and millions and millions and millions of views, right? But it was not mainstream whatsoever. So it's always like baristas or somebody with a gator shirt or like the IT guy that you'd
Starting point is 00:56:26 be like, oh nice button up. You know, like those are the people who recognize me or nowadays because I've been in the business so long. It's a lot of women, which is like the biggest compliment. Because when I first started doing Thief, it was there were no women in, you know, conventions or at nerd culture at the game store, you know. And now it's like a very big almost gender parity. And I think it's wonderful because now we're just all
Starting point is 00:56:48 gaming together. And I think that's something that's an ulterior motive of mine. Just like showing up and being who I am and representing in a sort of male biased area. Just showing up is like, okay, we'll make room for you. Most of the time, a lot of the time, there's be some a-holes. But you know, you just stand there and stand proud,
Starting point is 00:57:05 and people will link arms with you, man and women, and be like, no, they belong here. And that's what's beautiful about the last like 15 years. I think you're kind of a flag bearer for that to be honest with you. I think a lot of people look at you and they say, oh, well, she helps bridge that gap, right? Or she helps bring that into the fold.
Starting point is 00:57:20 I think that's, in my opinion, something to be proud of, right? Yeah, I'm very proud of it. Let me talk to you because I am an administrator. Let me talk to you about this. I love this show. I love, love, love this show. I have loved it since the day that it came on Comedy Central. It is just an incredible, it's just a simple idea with such incredible execution. And it's so fucking funny every single time that I watch an episode. Were you a huge fan before you actually got the gig?
Starting point is 00:57:53 Well, as I mentioned, my whole career is about spite. I'll just mention that. So the reason that I got this job was that I saw Joel in a green room at a convention. I was like, I'm gonna take a selfie and rub it in my brother's face. We'd go, because we used to watch MS2 3K together as kids.
Starting point is 00:58:11 It's the one thing we ever agreed on on the television. He wanted to watch Monster, you know, truck racing. I wanted to watch on Estacia, you know, movie series. So like, the one thing we'd agree on was Kung Fu movies and MS2 3K and sometimes the combination they're up. And so when I saw Joel, I was like, ha, ha, ha, ha, right. We exchanged information and he ended up like emailing me, hey, do you want to be in the show? And I was like,
Starting point is 00:58:34 oh, no, I want you. Yeah, I was like, I was trembling when he said I want you to be a forester because that's the bad guy at the show. And I got to be, yeah, it's, it's, whenever I hear his voice in real life, I think, oh, I'm listening guy at the show. And I got to be, yeah, it's whenever I hear his voice in real life, I think, oh, I'm listening to a television show, that's how iconic Joel is for me. And yeah, it's a great show. I'm fun. Me too, I would freak out.
Starting point is 00:58:53 It's just a little like, you know, kind of fan question. Do you think there's gonna be a season 14? I know you're crowdfunding for it right now. Am I mistaken? I think the crowdfunding, they Mr. Mark on the crowdfunding, but Joel said he's regrouping and next year, he's gonna go back and try a different tactic and kind of figure the show so that he can continue.
Starting point is 00:59:14 And the wonderful thing is it's been going on for 30 years. We did two crowdfunded years, or one crowdfunded year, one year on Netflix, one year of crowdfunding, and hopefully we'll be able to do another one whether through distribution or another crowdfunding thing that's a little bit different. So yeah, I'm really excited, and I hope to be part of the Misty World forever. But you can see all the episodes on either 2B or the gizmoplex.com is a website they built out, so go ahead and check it out because it is very, very funny.
Starting point is 00:59:40 If you have not seen mystery science theater 3000 and you're a commercial break fan and you're a Felicia Day fan, you will love it because if I don't even wanna explain it, you just have to go watch it, but just know. You're in good hands with Mystery Science Theater 3000. Give it a chance. Very good. Drink some wine, eat your edibles,
Starting point is 00:59:57 sit down, relax, we'll watch a couple of things. I don't think we've ever spent a whole day. I'm not suggesting you do drugs, but if you're suggesting you do drugs. But if you're going to do drugs, do them while you're watching this three-size theater 3,000. That's really fine. And in California, I remember when they legalized like weed here.
Starting point is 01:00:17 And I was like, oh no, the neighborhood's gonna go down. And I was like, it literally is not different. It's the same. It's fine. It's just you can just walk into the store and buy it. And I agree with it 1,000%. Georgia will's the same. It's fine. It's just you can just walk into the store and buy it. I agree with it 1,000%. Georgia will be the last state.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Maybe Mississippi, but Georgia will be one of the last states. Oh, Mississippi. Yeah, Mississippi. Yeah, they are not tech-forward. Mississippi. I'll tell you that. No. I was, that's where I was homeschool.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Yeah. That was one of the reasons why my mom did socializes. We went to one homeschool meetup and we were not religious, but the people who were in the Gulf Coast of Mississippi were very religious. And I remember a girl wouldn't swing with me because she said that her, and this was when I was nine years old, she was like, oh, I can't swing my skirt might go up
Starting point is 01:00:57 and people might see my ankles. Oh my God, this little girl said that. Yes, so ankles. Not our seat, not our seat. Oh yeah. Chrissy's. So ankles. Not our seam. Not our seam. Oh, yeah. Chrissy showing her ankles today in the studio. And I got to tell you, I got to barely control myself. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:13 I love that narrative. Men can't control themselves. Just control yourself. You'll be OK. Exactly. You can do it, sir. I have a question. I have a question from our producer,
Starting point is 01:01:23 who is a big fan of yours. Okay, here is the question. Her name is Christina. Christina has to know. Christina has to know, are you still into fanfic? What is your relationship with fanfic these days? You know, I do love fanfic. I love it when people write take stories because let's be honest, it's hard to write your own story. I have been delaying my own fictional novel like for years. I actually have one day I'm gonna,
Starting point is 01:01:56 it's either next year or the year after or maybe the year after that. So I don't know how good there's a year when I'll get my crap together. But I think fanfic is wonderful because it gives you a world and some characters to play with and put together and build a story. And if that gives you confidence
Starting point is 01:02:12 to start your own thing or that's the end all be all, God bless you, you go with it. As somebody who's created worlds and stories and characters to see other people take ownership of it to create their own little playground. I think it's fantastic. I am now really, I haven't read it a lot of fanfic lately, but I've been reading Lit RPG, which is like this,
Starting point is 01:02:33 it's basically a video game in novel form, and I read like three of these books a week. It's literally about how person power-level, I know, it's an addiction, I gotta write my own to deduct them all. They're so fun. So anyway, that's my addiction. I gotta write my own to deduct them all. They're so fun. So anyway, that's my latest passion, Christina. Okay, and the second question that Christina has,
Starting point is 01:02:50 which don't play me, it's coming from Christina, I'm just the messenger who also agrees to ask the question. So tell us your story about Hentai. You had a moment with Hentai. She dug deep. Oh wow, okay, Hentai. Okay, so if you guys aren't familiar,
Starting point is 01:03:05 Hentai is pornographic Japanese cartoon. I may or may not have seen Hentai. I've seen it before, yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's a little, and I, it was years ago, and I was like, I'm gonna spice up my relationship, and I'm gonna get some of this, because I love nerd things.
Starting point is 01:03:21 I was like, well, regular stuff doesn't do it for me. I think it's kind of, you know, not for me. But let's, so I ordered some Hentai. And I really like Sub-Jonress, so I ordered some Nurse Hentai. I ordered some Teacher Hentai. And I ordered some weird monster tentacle stuff anyway. I pop it in and the Nurse one starts and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:03:41 hey, my partner's like, uh-uh, no way, cartoon, cartoon nipples are not for me. So, so anyway, I put him on the shelf, they weren't even played, like just the nurse one got half done and we were like, okay, let's just watch British baking show or whatever. So,
Starting point is 01:04:00 doesn't turn me on like cupcakes. I mean, let's be honest, that's true. I was cleaning my house out and I was like getting rid of DVDs. I'm like, I'm just gonna get rid of this. And I kind of put them, I just threw them on top of the box and I closed the box and I took it to Goodwill. And I didn't think the guy was gonna open it. He's like, well, I gotta go through this.
Starting point is 01:04:19 And I'm like, what? And in horror. I see this 80 plus year old man. Open the top and see just nurse nipples. The nurse animated nurse nipples. And he's like, oh, and I'm like, oh, oh. So far back in there. I didn't want those anymore, but I don't think this is appropriate.
Starting point is 01:04:39 He's like, no, no, don't worry, man. I'll take it. I'll take it from here. I'll check that out. I'll take it from here. Do'll check that out. I'll take it from here. Do you have any tentacle hentai? That's what I saw. I'm like right below there.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Right. That's what I saw. When I looked, we were talking about hentai and I was doing some research, like you know, deep down in the web. And I saw this tentacle hentai and I was like, this is fucking intense. Like, I don't even know if I could get into this.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Yeah, it's way too much. It's way too much. I was like, oh. fucking intense. Like, I don't even know if I could get into this. Yeah, it's way too much. It's way too much. I was like, what? What? First. Not one for every orifice, so thank you. No, thank you. I want before we let you go, I want to make sure you talk about
Starting point is 01:05:16 the cause that's near and near near heart, the birds. Talk about the birds. Yes, yes. I was so excited that you guys were from Atlanta. I heard the minute I logged on, I was like, oh, they're southerners. And they're from Atlanta. So I want to give a plug to a charity that is my passion lately. It is called Papa Yago Rescue House.
Starting point is 01:05:31 And it is in Marriott, Georgia. And if you are a local Georgia person, please, either if you could support them, that would be wonderful. But also, they need volunteers. And it is a wonderful parent rescue. They helped me out with my grandmother had to go and assist at living and she had a macaque and unfortunately, we have a very small family and nobody could take it. And they help me out.
Starting point is 01:05:53 You can adopt this bird if you want. But anyway, they have adoptions, but also they have amazing education there. If you are a bird owner, they give lessons. They also consult, they also will train you. If you want to adopt a bird, they have parakeets, they have a bird owner, they give lessons. They also consult. They also will train you. If you want to adopt a bird, they have parakeets, they have cockatooes, they have parrots, macaques, all of them. And you know, these are very intelligent long-lived creatures. Yes. And they really need a lot of care. And unfortunately, you know, circumstances sometimes turn out that you can't or they find rescue birds birds that got out and they try to find their own
Starting point is 01:06:25 Or they it is it is a local charity with so much heart and so much passion and love for these birds So you know, I just want to give Papa Yago rescue house a big shout out in the Atlanta era You can donate if you're from afar or they always also are always looking for volunteers So you want to go volunteer go do it. So if you're here in the plug. Yeah, if you're here in Georgia looking for volunteers. So you wanna go volunteer, go do it. So if you're here in the plug. Yeah, if you're here in Georgia, check them out. And I do have to say, I do think this is an important
Starting point is 01:06:48 animal cause also because I think a lot of people get involved with birds and they may not, they think it's cool, they think it's interesting, they've got a bird, they've got a, whatever. They don't realize everything that's entailed. It's a lot like most domesticated animals, cats and dogs and everybody else, they take them in, three weeks later, they didn't realize they had to do so much work,
Starting point is 01:07:04 it was very expensive or whatever the case. And then they leave them in, three weeks later, they didn't realize they had to do so much work, it was very expensive or whatever the case, and then they leave them somewhere or they don't take care of them. And the truth of the matter is, is there are too many people giving them back and not enough people taking them away. And so it ends up being a sad thing for everybody involved.
Starting point is 01:07:20 So get yourself educated and check out the papiago bird rescue here in Georgia. That bird rescue, yeah. If you get a chance. I mean, if you're thinking about, if you're thinking about it as a bird, I like a friend of mine was like, I really want to horse on, like go volunteer at a rescue
Starting point is 01:07:33 and spend some time with more tourists or birds and see if this is part of your lifestyle. If it fits, if the hard stuff is as fun as the fun stuff with the animal, because you don't want to, and certainly don't buy an animal. Like, there are many restful places to definitely go and rescue any kind of animal. So, thank you for letting me look at that. I really appreciate your support.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Of course, and by the way, some of these birds lived a hundred years old. Yeah, they lived a long time. You need to have a succession plan for the bird, because the bird will probably outlive you. Yes, it's true. I mean, in my case too, and like like I'm a lifelong supporter of Papayago So but a lot of people can't do that so at the end of the day like I want to support people who Do something well and do it with their whole heart and like yeah, that's this is the charity for it
Starting point is 01:08:15 So if you want a bird go volunteer for a couple months first before you get the bird And then you'll know what you're getting yourself into and then you can either just get a bird or you can just show up and volunteer And have the bird when you want the bird. You can get your bird. Yeah. Like they should say. Yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:08:31 It's like grandparents. They get them, they get to drop them back off at the end of the night. Third eye is available on Audible. It's getting a lot of praise. It has been very successful. I hope that our listeners go check it out. You are a national treasure
Starting point is 01:08:46 Felicia Day and to all nerds everywhere you are one of the best and I really appreciate you coming on today. Thank you so much for the pleasure and I do hope that you come back. For you guys a story. Yeah, I would love to come back. You haven't come back any day and also you guys are hilarious and inspiring and I am fully subscribed to everything you do. So thank you, guys. Felicia, we love you. And we stay around here. Best to you, my friend.
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Starting point is 01:10:39 Call us today at 254-300-792. Visit us at roguemedianetwork.com or send us an email at helloatrogamedianetwork.com. Join the podcast revolution with Rogue Media Network today. Wow, Felicia could not have been better. If you had, I mean, I feel like it was a third member of the group. It was like a third member of the band just showing up. That's right.
Starting point is 01:11:10 And we had so much in common. And she's just so lovely. She's beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful inside it out. So intelligent has done so much. Had we 300 episodes ago, had guests of this caliber come
Starting point is 01:11:24 in the door, our whole lives might have changed. Our whole opinion on guesting might have changed, you know what I'm saying? We're so afraid of it. Yeah, we had the one guy that we never aired that came on, comedian. We thought it was a comedian. And so there, here's, let me break the fourth wall for you. Just a little bit here.
Starting point is 01:11:44 There is a, this is well known. You should know this. When someone goes on Jimmy Kimmel or Conan O'Brien or wherever they go, when they go on one of those shows and they're a comedian, the host, if he's good at his job or her, if she's good at her job, they will tee up material. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:12:00 So that that comedian can run over some familiar ground, tell some jokes and do what they're there to do. Right now, I understand Felicia's not a comedian, like, but that's not her job title, right? But we had this guy on one time. And I didn't want to stop title. Yeah, that was his job title. As a matter of fact, that's how he pitched himself to us.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Like, you know, comedian extraordinaire. I had billions of views on all the social media platforms. Turned out to be not true. But anyway, regardless, that's shame on us for not doing our homework. But we don't talk to the guests ahead of time. Usually, we don't. We wouldn't say hi to them right before, as if they're coming. We do our own little research.
Starting point is 01:12:35 We do our own little research and we have a bunch of people that help us do that. Christina, Tina, and Mary Ann, all the people you've heard about. But this guy comes on long before I meet these people who are involved in the show. And long before we had anybody listening to the show, he comes on. And, but the day before, not really knowing what I'm doing, like I still don't right now, I get on the phone with the guy,
Starting point is 01:12:54 and we have a long conversation. And I say, hey, listen, you know, I've just watched, you know, some of your stuff. And let me tee up a couple of these for you. And he says, yeah, that's great. Let's do it that way. Okay, great. Let's keep it natural.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Let's keep it organic. But I'll make sure I throw in a few questions that can lead to some of your more, you know, famous material. I guess if you could call that with people watching. I swear to God, TCB universe. I swear. Chrissy was in the room with me. Yeah. It was the most uncomfortable thing that most uncomfortable conversation maybe I've ever been involved in because I started asking these questions to tee up his material. And he goes from World War II to the Civil War in conversation. And it's not like he just briefly mentioned it as a joke. He was talking about it as if he was a historian for an hour.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Yeah, it wasn't funny. There was nothing funny about it, not a fucking thing funny about it. We had to endure too for a while. Oh my God. And then we got time. We were like, uh, bye. That's not gonna happen. Now, the good news, I forgot to press record.
Starting point is 01:13:52 So the great news was, at least we fucked up the technology. So we actually couldn't run it. But I'll tell you what, that guy called me for months and he was like, hey man, I'd come back on and re-record that. And I was like, yeah, listen, we're not doing guests right now. I think that's what started, we're not doing guests, because I just didn't want to call that guy back. So I'm not going to have guests on.
Starting point is 01:14:12 But Felicia is the exact opposite of that. So easy to talk to. All of our guests have been wonderful, but I feel like Felicia, here's my concern with Felicia. When I initially, when we get together and decide we're going to do this, my concern with Felicia is she is into so much of the nerdest culture, right? That's her whole thing, and she is very popular
Starting point is 01:14:32 in that culture. I am not, I'm a nerd in my own way. Like I'm a nerd when it comes to like Dr. Niles Arden on TLC, I can tell you every episode of my 600 pound life, right? Or I can tell you about my little family or whatever, I could tell you about that stuff. I'm a nerd in my own way.
Starting point is 01:14:47 We all are in our own way about our own things. But I'm not a gamer necessarily. I'm not necessarily into the nerd culture. I'm into MST, but that's, you know, in exception, not the rule. And so you get a little nervous that you may not, you know, the camera. You don't talk the Linga.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Yeah, you just don't want to be able to talk the Linga. I could not have been more wrong Oh, we had so much other so much to talk about we didn't even get to the fact that she had just been to Costa Rica We have that our Costa Rica connection just like Steve. Oh, I wrote you know, 26 bullet points down that I could like you know Go over and I got to three of them. I wrote 36 for Felicia. I think we got to four of them. So I guess we're doing better. Every time we'll try and get some more actual research that we've done.
Starting point is 01:15:30 It flows. Thanks for wasting your time, Tita and Christina. We appreciate it. So much fun. So go check out her audible with her series, seven hours long. It's a fantasy series. It's professionally voiced and acted, voice acted,
Starting point is 01:15:47 and I know you're gonna like it. I actually started to listen to it this morning, but I didn't get through much of it, so I'm gonna pick up where I left off, because I wanna hear the Weird Aliankovic part, definitely, but desperately. So what, just so wonderful. And Felicia has a website, Felicia.de,
Starting point is 01:16:00 you can go there too and find out all about the things she's doing. I think she's doing like a Comic Con cruise coming up to Cozamel. If you're going to Cozamel. I have not been to Cozamel. You've not been to Cozamel. Which parts of Mexico have you been to? I have been to Cancun.
Starting point is 01:16:16 That was a trip after high school. Which was a total debauchery as you can imagine. And then I've been to Plya. Plya, Del Carmen? Yeah, I think that. Does that Plya Del Carmen? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Okay, I don't know all the towns. I've been to Cousaml, I've been to Cabo, Mexico City. I've been to both. I do want to go to Mexico City, I heard that that's beautiful, man. It's absolutely beautiful. And when I was there, it was back in the 90s. And it wasn't quite, you know, Mexico wasn't quite
Starting point is 01:16:47 as quote unquote dangerous as some people might think it is now. But I actually think that Mexico City is a very metropolitan city. I'll tell you the story. I'll share this story real quick, as I'm trying to convince you that Mexico's safe. One of my dad's employees got kidnapped in Mexico City one time. It's freaking insane. And they had like that whole kidnapping insurance and everything and they got him back.
Starting point is 01:17:09 They got him back. He like disappeared from the hotel, from the front of the hotel. And he got dropped off at the front of the hotel in his underwear. Oh my God. Yeah, not a thing on him except for his underwear. Disoriented not knowing where he was going.
Starting point is 01:17:21 And I guess they paid the ransom because the guy got back or whatever. But that's not, that happens all around the world. It's not just Mexico. By love to Mexico City, I spent a bit of time there. I loved it. I loved it. I loved it.
Starting point is 01:17:35 I loved it. I thought it was so wonderful. But I was also a teenager. And I think I just loved it because you could buy cigarettes. Drink. Yeah. My dad leaves us. Listen, this is a funny story from Mexico.
Starting point is 01:17:44 My dad brings us to the Nestle Hotel down there. It's like one of the big nice hotels. Yeah. My dad leaves us. Listen, this is a funny story from Mexico. My dad brings us to the Nestle Hotel down there. It's like one of the big nice hotels in Mexico City. But he's there for business, and we're just traveling along with him for this long business trip that he has in Mexico, going to different places. So in Mexico City for a while, Kevin and I are kind of bored, it's Kevin and I.
Starting point is 01:18:01 We're kind of bored, and so my dad says, listen, I got a guy, he's gonna come pick you up in the lobby. He's gonna take you to go do some sightseeing stuff. You guys wanna go to the pyramids, they'll take you to the pyramids, whatever you wanna do, I got business meetings. I'll be back tonight. So I'm giving you some money.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Be good and wait down in the lobby for this guy. That was nice of you, Zach. This guy shows up and he looks like the world's most interesting man. And I know me, he looks like the world's most interesting man. He looks like the guy who plays the world's most interesting man. The great air and the swav. Oh, yes. He brings us into his Cadillac, Deville, right?
Starting point is 01:18:32 The big, long, old Cadillac. And he's got the little, like the little, I don't even what you call them, the dangly things, the little balls, the first balls that are hanging. You know what I'm saying? He's got those things in his car. But otherwise the car is like a limousine, except for these dangly things that are running around the entire thing.
Starting point is 01:18:49 And so he's letting us smoke back there. He's, you know, he's joking with us, but we're smoking cigarettes. We're laughing it up with this guy. Hey, man, I'll tell you what, why don't I take you to one of Mexico City's most wonderful places? And we're like, yeah, take us there. And he's like, and I go, what is it?
Starting point is 01:19:08 One of the pyramids, don't you worry. You'll know when you get there. Okay, pull up in this Cadillac de Vil, this old dusty road in the middle of the fucking desert. And there's like a shack in the middle of the desert, right? We go in there, it is in a Gave plant, a tequila plant. And they are making tequila there, and they have a tequila tasting table.
Starting point is 01:19:30 But the table is not where a bartender is setting up there, pouring you a little nip of the tequila. It's just shots of tequila hanging out ready for you to take. A basket of limes, plate with salt, and hundreds of shots of tequila. Your teenage fantasy. Well, I'm not a big drinker,
Starting point is 01:19:44 so I didn't drink as a teenager, really, but I took a shot, right? Well, Kevin gets into it. He's like, yeah, wow, no, no, no. He's like going shot for shot with the world's most interesting man. The guy drives a Cadillac DeVille. You're not gonna out drink him.
Starting point is 01:19:57 And so Kevin does this. Then the next stop is the pyramids, like the sun pyramid and the moon pyramid, you know, the rock and reen, whatever that stuff is. So you can climb up this, but it is like at a 90 degree angle. You have to literally climb like a ladder. Yes. And people don't make it up there,
Starting point is 01:20:12 and some people fall sometimes. So Kevin and I managed to make our way up to the top of the sun god pyramid. And Kevin is fucking hammered. I think he threw up on the top of the pyramid if I'm big honest. Yeah. Adding more to the lure of the pyramid if I'm big on it. Yeah. Adding more to the lure of the Americans. Don't know how to travel. Right. So on the top of the pyramid,
Starting point is 01:20:36 I'm wearing this belt. Right. I got a belt jeans on whatever I'm wearing. Actually, I'm sure I'm wearing my blue docked Martins with my baggy jeans. So I get up at the top of this pyramid and there's a guy standing there and he goes, Hey, man, I'm much for the belt. And I go, what? I'm much for the belt. He liked your belt. He liked my belt. And I said, I'm not selling my belt, but he had these trinkets. He had like a clay, sun god, and a moon god, right? These two clay trinkets, probably worth collective 30 cents. And I go, but I really like those two trinkets that you got there on your, he's like a blanket out or whatever. And I was like, but I like those two trinkets. I gave you the trinkets for the bed.
Starting point is 01:21:10 And I was like, oh really? And he was like, yeah. So the entire trip, I only brought one belt. My pants are falling off. Every time we go somewhere, my pants are falling. But you had your trinkets. Yes, my dad had to buy me a belt downstairs in the lobby because that's Brian decided he was
Starting point is 01:21:25 going to give his a way. Oh, you know, listen, I can't be, I can't be the world's most interesting man because I don't know how to behave. I love it. They were selling trinkets at the top of this famous pyramid. Exactly. Yeah. Well, listen.
Starting point is 01:21:47 They sell trinkets at our most famous places too, like Walt Disney World at the end of the year. Washington, DC, like, you know what I mean? Those monuments, there's somebody that they're selling a t-shirt of some kind. That's true. But in 2023, you gotta be careful about which t-shirt you buy. You know, so you don't wanna give the wrong message or end up at the wrong protest.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Right. That's all I gotta say. Thanks so much to Felicia Day for coming on. A commercial break. We just had an absolute blast. We will have her back. There's no doubt about that. She comes in April.
Starting point is 01:22:12 If we can find a way to put a third chair here, maybe we do that. Let's do that. Maybe we just bring her here to my, you know, one story, double-wide trailer. My daughter's, what should be my daughter's room? What are my daughters? So thanks to Felicia Day. Go to her website Felicia.de, please check out her audible series, The Third Eye, and once you get done doing all that, go to our website,
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Starting point is 01:23:39 And I'm so bummed out because I really like the voicemail. Oh whatever, anyway. And you get the point. Add the commercial break on the ever growing Instagram. A veeredos. We have almost a million views on that veeredos reel. It's crazy. So add the commercial break on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:23:53 TCB podcast on TikTok and youtube.com slash the commercial break. The Felicia Day interview will be up there. So go check it out. All right, Chrissy, I guess that's all I can do for today. I think so. But I'll tell you that I all I can do for today. I think so. But I'll tell you that I love you. I love you. Best of you.
Starting point is 01:24:07 And best of you. And best of you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time, Chrissy and I do say, we always say, and we must say. Good bye. Good bye. Oh, hell yeah!

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