The Commercial Break - TCB Infomercial w. Leslie Liao

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And Venezuela. We've been the number one English speaking podcast in Venezuela since the day we started. Thank you to Astrid's family. What a way to start off a TCB infomercial with Ms. Leslie Liao coming in today. Oh my gosh, I'm so excited to talk to her. Fresh off, I say fresh off, it was six months ago, fresh off her appearance on Jimmy Fallon. What a story this young lady has about how she came to be such a noted standup comic. Like she's really- Super interesting.

It's really interesting. She was, she started a little bit later in life. I mean, we'll talk about all this with her, but she started a little bit later in life. She was working for Netflix, where now some of her shit streams. How odd is that? In HR. In HR. She was an HR person over at Netflix. And then she was doing standup comedy at night.

And then all of the sudden she becomes a superstar in 2023. She's on The Fallon Show. Now she's on Verified, which also has our friend Rosebud Baker. And if I'm not mistaken, is Blair Saki on that? I don't know, she might, anyway, verified on Netflix. Go check it. Verify what we're talking about. Yeah, verify what we're talking about by going and watching verified on Netflix. That's the only way you're gonna get

the accurate information from this stupid show. But Leslie is quite the little rising rocket in the comedy scene, and I'm so grateful that she's coming on the show today because she is fucking funny. You know, we do homework. Oh, I know, I was watching her. She's totally like my brand of humor.

Yeah. Yeah, it's- Only good vibes. Only good vibes. Only good vibes for Hoadley. Only good vibes for Hoadley. Now she's got a sense of confidence and calmness, you know, and funny all at the same time.

Yeah, she's good. She's really good. So we're super excited to have her. You can check out her socials. We've got all the links in the show description in the show notes as they're officially called, Chrissy, in the podcast universe. Was that show kind of a prerequisite to- Cribs? Cribs. I was just getting ready to say it. Yeah. But Robin Leach would take it much further. You'd do your whole lifestyle. Yachts, which hotels you stayed in. I mean, that guy was all over the... Whatever happened to Robin... I mean,

I think he's dead now, but whatever happened to Robin Leach, like in the 80s, Robin Leach was everywhere. Yeah, because he would do like infomercials and stuff too, which would somehow lead credibility. Yeah, he was doing like Get rich quick real estate seminars, and then that would lend credibility. I think I could be mistaken about this, but I think I remember seeing like a little documentary on Robin Leach, like a VH1 behind the music or some shit behind the Leach or whatever it was. And I think I don't know, don't trust me. I don't know what I'm talking about. But when I watched the I don't know, don't trust me, I don't know what I'm talking about. But when I watched the-

Behind the Leech! Scratch tape, I mean we're all fired! Scratch tape, we're on a roll. We're on a roll. Scratch tape and Robin Reach. Behind the Leech. Behind the Leech. Stupid, Brian.

Unveiling the Leech. Unveiling the Leech! Depancing the Leech! Look at that! I'm so happy! I'm so happy! I'm so happy! I'm so happy!

I'm so happy! I'm so happy! I'm so happy! I'm so happy! I'm so happy! I'm so happy! I'm so happy! I'm so happy! That's stupid, Ryan. Unveiling the leech. Unveiling the leech. Depancing the leech. Look at those huge monster-sized balls paid for by all this real estate debt. If I'm not mistaken, I think he actually created that show and then paid for it to be on air for a while,

like an infomercial, and then it just turned into something that people actually liked and wanted to watch and all that stuff. And there for like three years, when I was a child, for like three years, I remember seeing that show every day. Like my mom or dad was watching it every day to see how these rich people were living. It was fascinating. It probably made them want to jump you know, jump off a roof because they had four children and no money to their names.

Just like I do, five to seven children with no money to my name. But it was so good, that Robin Leach thing. But anyway, Leslie Liao is what we're really here to talk. Mr. Leach. Leslie Liao is what we're really here to talk about. And so do us a favor, go check out her Instagram, her Netflix. She's going to be on the Netflix is a joke in that festival.

Yeah, she's going to be at the festival. She's headlining. Yeah, she's headlining, I think a couple shows. So anyway, we'll get into all of that with her, but please do us a favor, go check out her website, go follow her on Instagram, go look at her YouTube videos. She's really funny, I promise you. And I really look forward to having this conversation with her. So let's do this, Chrissy.

Let's do it. Let's do this. What if we take a break and then through the magic of podcasting, she'll be with us when we return from that break. Beamed into our studio. Beamed straight into our studio via old satellite dishes that are sitting sideways on my house I've got five of them. I know I've got five and then that huge one in the yard. Yes, so like the really big one. It's sitting right in the pool

Because that's where they decided I could get the best That's how I got the discount on it. They're like, yeah, but we got to put it in the pool You can't get one of those expensive ones that can spin around on its own. We need to keep this stationary. And the only clear view you have is in the pool on the steps. So now I just have to throw my children in the deep end because the steps are no, that's my satellite for the podcast. Don't touch it. Daddy, I'm not swimming very well on the deep end. Yeah, yeah, yeah, get over there and turn the old satellite left so daddy can get Leslie

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Certain conditions apply. Details at phys.ca. Hey, Leslie, how are you? Hello. I'm good and awake. How are you? Are you a coffee drinker? So I am. And I, but I can't make coffee. You know how people have those cool machines in their kitchen? I am such a SoCal LA, I will buy my $7 iced Americano from everywhere, but this morning I couldn't run out.

So I just buy, you know when you go to Target and just buy like a jug of coffee. And then I put like a mismatched creamer in it and it is atrocious. It's awful. It's awful. But I'm going to drink it because I, you know, I spent the money on this. Yeah, because you have to as a coffee drinker. I know this addiction well. And I'm just like you.

I have no clue how to actually make really good coffee, so I go get my seven buck iced coffee. Is that what you drink, iced coffee? Every day. Every day. It depends on the day, the weather, and the function. So on a sunny day, love an iced thing. On a cold day, like a cold city I'm touring in,

love a hot, you know, so I'm crazy. I adjust it. Look at you, Leslie. You are a wild child. Based on my mood hot. You know, so I, I'm crazy. I adjust it. I adjust it. Look at you Leslie, you are a wild child. Based on my mood and you know, sometimes you need an espresso shot. Okay. So, inquiring minds want to know, when you were a kid,

did your parents explicitly explain to you not to stare at the sun? This is a hot debate right now on the commercial break. Did you ever get told, don't look at the sun, child, you're going to burn your retinas out? I believe I heard that. I'm sure I heard that touted to me by someone. Yes. I'm sure. It's a common sense, right?

And, you know, and I'm a millennial, so like pre-TikTok social media, internet, like things were just word of mouth. Like there was nothing trending, you know, like your friends on the playground told you or your teacher told you. I remember being told, don't look at the sun. I also did not catch the eclipse. I think I was on a plane. Oh, you were? And I think I just didn't care.

I don't care. Yeah, we agreed. We were the same way. Yeah, we watched the eclipse. So you didn't see it? No, I saw it. I watched a little bit of it on TV. Yeah, I watched it on TV. You're fucking like it's a TV show. You're like, I watched the anyway. Yeah, we watched it. So you didn't see it? No, I saw it. I watched a little bit of it on TV. Yeah, I watched it on TV.

You're fucking like it's a TV show. You're like, I watched the rerun. Someone sent it to me. I did. It turned slightly dark here in Atlanta. I have children. And so I was explaining to my kids, like before they left for school,

and we got them before the eclipse happened, but they're really young and I was like, listen, your eyeballs are literally set on fire if you look at the sky today, so just don't do that. And then they got home and I tried to get them excited about, hey, let's go outside, we'll see how weird it looks outside.

You wanna watch a cool universe trick? Here, let's go outside and watch this. And my daughter was in the corner, she wouldn't come out. She's like, I don't want my eyes to set on fire. And I was like, I have fucked this child for life. I've fucked her for life. You did. But it's like, even if that's not true,

isn't it a safe assumption to not look at the sun? I think so, I think it's all common sense. I think it's child for life. I've fucked her for life. You did. But it's like, even if that's not true, isn't it a safe assumption to not look at the sun? I think so. I think it's all common sense. I think it's a safe bet. I take a peek sometimes just to see where it is. In the sky, but I don't stare at it. You can't see Chrissy's helper dog sitting right next to her, but she is blinded.

And I'm not very glad. You have your dog look at the sun first for you and scout it out. But also, like I saw everything on social media, like I, it was like footage of people watching the eclipse and they all had the little 3D glasses. I'm like, who sold you those glasses? How can I? Cause my whole thing is I don't trust anything or anyone. So I'm like, where did you get those glasses made out of Saran wrap? Like who sold you those glasses on Etsy? Yeah. Where'd you get those? So I don't trust it. I don't trust any of them. They sold them to me. They. Who is they? Who gave you, who gave them permission to give you sunglasses?

Where did everyone get those sunglasses for real? Yeah. All of a sudden we all have protective and who has who's selling fakes like anyways there is no universal eyewear like there's no eclipse eyeglass association that I know of that's trustworthy so I agree with you I just stayed inside and watched as it turned a weird so our eyes are doing just fine. Yeah. I think you say something that is, first of all, let me start here. Your story is quite unbelievable actually, how you became a standup comic, a little later than some people become,

but I don't believe there's a bad time to start anything in life, as a gentleman who's a little bit older, I know this, we started this later on in life. As a gentleman who's a little bit older, I know this, we started this later on in life, but you started standup comedy at 29, but explain where you got your actual start in comedy and who you were working for,

because I think this is an amazingly ballsy and awesome story. Yeah, my life is absurd. It's definitely not the conventional way people start stand-up, but I did start stand-up at age 29, which I found to be late in life also, because most comics start when they're like 11. Right. All my favorite comics, all my favorite headlining comics are like, I've been in the game for 35 years, and I'm like, you're 40.

That's so true. But it's true. They all start young and get good young. But I started at 29, which I guess maybe statistically is late, but I'm so thrilled I did it. And because I almost didn't, because I thought it was too late. Also, 29 is young. It's young and relative to anything. But in my… I would literally stare at the sun to turn 29 again.

Plus you have more experience that you can talk about. That's why I, that's actually why I waited till 29. But I, before I started standup, I had a whole pre-life of, I wanted to be a Hollywood comedy producer. I wanted to produce comedy movies and comedy shows and work with standups and all that stuff. So I worked, the same year I started stand produce comedy movies and comedy shows and work with standups and all that stuff. So I worked

The same year I started standup comedy. I worked at a company called Netflix a Little tiny which dabbled in comedy as well Which has been dabbling comedy and I was not in the comedy department at Netflix I had a very funky job that I actually loved But it was kind of designed for me and I was at the right place at the right time. And as a default, my job was in HR. Oh. And I know.

Netflix? So you're the, you're like, if people have problems or there's an issue in the workplace or someone's getting harassed or something, they would come to you and file a report? So I wish, cause that would be the funnier answer, but like I had a job where I just, I hired internal temp assistants.

So any anyone at Netflix who maybe like they were growing their team and suddenly needed an assistant for a four month assignment, like I hired internal assistants and assigned them like Avengers all over the company. And they were awesome. Like I loved them. They knew I did comedy. They were cool Gen Z assistants. Like they thought I was hilarious for being their manager

and a standup. So I wasn't like, you know, your typical, what you think of as an HR person. But HR is a huge department at Netflix. So I was just in HR because that's where we belonged. I was like a staffing manager. Okay. So like, but it still was ripe for comedy,

my everyday life, like what I did in the day versus night. Absolutely. Was ridiculous. How did you break the news then when you left? Well, I mean, like, isn't it weird? Like Netflix is the place to go to for comedy these days. It used to be an HBO, you get an HBO special, right? One hour every month on HBO.

They spotlight some huge comedian, but there wasn't a lot of places to cut your teeth. Comedy Central may be one of those places. But then how do you, isn't that your goal is to, I want a Netflix special eventually, that's what I really wanna do. Did you find it hard to be working at the company where you wanted to impress the people we're going to give comedy specials or did you like dance around it?

I aggressively try to compartmentalize all of my emotions around it. Yeah. Cause it, cause what you're describing is like, it's easy to fall into that trap of like, ah, I work at the place where I want to be a comic, whatever. So I was, I've had a day job my entire adult life. So Netflix was like the loveliest place to work. Like the people were smart, like the benefits, the lunches, like the name, like I, it was a great place to work as a human being. So I was grateful for that. I also had, and I hate this, work-life balance. I had a work, you know, like, it's like you're balancing

your life with work. Like, it's your life. Like, shouldn't that be enough to balance? Life balance. Let's fit in work with my life. But the schedule, I was done at 5 p.m. Like, the schedule allowed me to cut my, you know, switch my gears to like comedy right away at night every night. So I was so grateful that I had like a nice comfortable well-paying job, you know, and this was like post-pandemic hybrid work was a thing so I wasn't really stuck at the office till 7. When are we, when is this? Like, I mean, when, when exactly are you working for Netflix? So I started both stand up and Netflix 2017. Okay. So it was pre pandemic, but even pre pandemic I still was like, it was like I was done at a reasonable hour and I can run around

to the mics and shows. But like, um, I, I tried really hard to keep everything stay in my lane in both areas. So like in the daytime I was like corporate Netflix, whatever, and I was so thankful that I had that type of a job to allow me. Cause other comics, I never could do the starving artist thing, like I just couldn't do it. I wasn't, you know, raised that way or whatever. So I always had a day job and then I just kept it so,

yeah, everything. Yeah. Emotionally. Here's an interesting story. So Chrissy and I met at a large radio conglomerate. We were working on the business side. When I, I heard an ad on like a radio station and I had this weird idea that maybe they were running this ad.

It said, come apply to be, to work at this particular station that that was running the ad. And I thought, oh maybe they want some people to be on air. So I applied. I got an interview when I walked in the door. I thought maybe I was gonna be like, you know, go on air right away. And the lady was like, that's not for on air, it's for a business job. And I was like, oh okay, I'll that. So I can literally suck the ass of whoever I need to to get on air. At least I was in the building. And so I took the opposite approach to you.

I made it known far and wide that what I wanted to do was commandeer their airwaves. And only- They let you do it for a brief minute. Yes, they let me do it for like three months between 3 a.m. and 6 a.m. in the morning where no one heard me. Oh, prime, of course, prime radio.

Yeah, yeah, of course, drive radio. Yeah, prime drive time hours. But look where you are now. It all worked out. Yes, some people would say that. I'm not sure that my parents or my wife would say that. And I'm not sure my mortgage company says that. But listen, that's beside the point. Starving artist runs in my bones.

Yeah. No, and I'm with you and I understand this. It's like you didn't want to be seen as the person who got the job at Netflix so you could get on Netflix. You wanted to be seen on your own merits, on its own time, in a way that was organic and outside the circle of business that you had to do inside of the building. So when does that actually happen? Do you say you say, hey boss, come check me out? Or does someone walk in the room? That's what I was wondering. So that's exactly my strategy was,

get noticed the way any other comic gets noticed. It's through word of mouth of someone you trust. So all the comedy people at Netflix, like they're so plugged into the scene, like they all go to shows. They they know comics at all levels. So I'm like, I don't want them to hear me cracking a joke in the cafeteria. And be like, what was that? Like, I want them to see me at a show or hear or hear about me through a trusted like comedy person or something. So in 2023, last year, I finally got a manager, management, and that was through just performing in LA. Like word of mouth, someone told my now manager, check her out, she's legit. So then I got the manager and then my manager,

and luckily before Netflix, I worked at talent agencies and talent management companies. So I worked at talent agencies and talent management companies. So I worked for the people that represent actors, writers, directors, comics. So being on that side, I understood the purpose of a rep and what they're supposed to do. And I'm like, I gotta get one of those. Yeah, we just learned that lesson last year and it was the best lesson we ever learned. You need a fucking agent, not because you have big balls and you need to go swinging

into a room, but because they really do know what they're fucking talking about. I mean, depending on who you have. There is an ecosystem. There is a system in place and reps play a very important part. They sure do. They have a mystery job to maybe people on the outside of Hollywood, but it's a very key job. So I worked for them. And so once I had the manager, I was like, okay, great, this is going to mean more opportunities for me. So this is a good sign. So I remember I was at work. I was in the building at work. my my rep called the Netflix comedy team to pitch me like I have a new client

She's great. You should know her her name is Leslie Lee Oh, and one of the one of the Netflix comedy guys goes that name sounds yeah I don't know that name sounds super familiar because I've been a Netflix for six years Yes, and as you can guess Netflix is a huge company. She just notified me that five women think I'm harassing them. She just slapped my wrist about something. So this particular Netflix person I love, because I worked with him vaguely years ago at the company, like our paths crossed, and he was like, wait, I swear I know her. So he looked my name up in the Netflix internal employee database.

He was like, shut the fuck up. Leslie Liao, I could go walk to her cubicle right now. Is this the one you're talking about? And my manager was like, yep. Netflix has a really cool monthly show in LA that they produce of live comedy and it's up and coming, stand ups and they publish those sets on their Netflix is a joke serious channel. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a great free show. You can go to it every month in LA. It's awesome. So he, he, my manager pitched me,

he's like, Hey, throw her on that show if you want, like, she's great. So I did that show in LA and kind of re met my coworkers, basically. They were all at that show and we all just laughed. Like I went to the green room, they're like, what's up? And it was a weekday. I had come straight from the office to go to that show. And they were like, Hey, Leslie. I was like, Hey guys, I've still been at it this whole time. And that's, you know, and I did Just for Laugh Montreal last year. New faces. So, you know, New Faces, Just for Laughs is like the coolest thing to do as a comic. So I did that show in front of my coworkers and some of them knew I worked at Netflix, some of them didn't. So like, so last year was a,

my goal was always to compartmentalize and keep the world separate, but little did I know that they could someday overrun. They could compliment each other. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they could compliment or blow up. True. Conflict with each other.

And I never thought I would actually become successful. I just was always gonna spend my life trying. I didn't think anything would come from this. Secretly hoped, but didn't really think. So then last year was just like the, like everything blew up. But now get this, Chrissy, you started this in 2023 is the year of the kind of like Leslie comic being born, right? People taking notice. Things happened. Man, things are happening. The wheels are starting. You've been doing it for six or seven years at that point.

In this short amount of time, she has this verified on Netflix, she's on Jimmy fucking Fallon. No. Leslie, what the, what in the world? I had to take two days off my day job to film Jimmy, yeah. What in the world? What is your life?

What is that so weird? I am just as shocked as you. I promise you. That Jimmy Fallon happened last fall, so I had to take two days off to go film the Tonight Show and I casually mentioned it to my boss. We have a very professional way of taking time off. It's very like, you take the time off you need, make sure your work is done, but there's no limit. So I just was like, yeah, I'm taking

a long weekend. Yeah, yeah. Be back on Tuesday, whatever. And my boss's boss saw me on The Tonight Show. And he didn't know, you know. So I get a ping from him and he's lovely. I got a slack ping from him one day. He's like, hey, do you have a minute to talk? Which like, you never want that. Right, no. Yeah, you never. From your boss's boss, like, are you free right now?

Can you please tell me what it's all about long before I walk in your door so I can stress out and leave work early? You never want a day of urgent, wanna, can we chat? Little chit chat in my office, don't you mind? So I'm like, what the hell? So we have like, what the hell?

So we have like last minute Zoom meeting, and he's like, hey, I just saw you on The Tonight Show. Oh my god. And I was like, yeah? I was like, is that OK? Is that OK? Am I in trouble? And he was like such an adorable fan.

And he was like, you got to go do this. Like, what are you doing here? Yeah. He's like, when are you leaving? Seriously, like we all know you've done comedy, but we didn't realize it was to this degree like people heard murmurs like oh Leslie does stand up on the weekends type of thing, but they didn't know it was like a Netflix tonight show Yeah, Leslie. I would think that when you show up on the tonight show it's quitting your day job

I mean listen as long as you got the financial wherewithal to do it, right? But I would say that's a like I've arrived. Yeah, let's focus on this. Yeah. How many comics get on Jimmy Fallon? I know it's that's fucking unbelievable to me that in this one year, you have blown up in such a huge way. Is that surreal in your mind still? Yeah, 100%. I think it's all so ridiculous. Like it's shocking. It's shocking to me. Like I think I'm lucky in so many ways. Like I, I'm nervous that it's all happening a little too fast. Like I still want to feel ready for these big moments, but luckily for Fallon and this night show, like I felt ready. Like when I filmed it, I was like, I'm fucking ready. It was good. It was good. I watched it. Yeah.

So thank you. You're welcome. I had so much fun. But as a comic, I was psyched that they gave me that spot. Oh yeah, for sure. I was like, this fucking rules. I do not take this for granted. Even though The Tonight Show is like, it's consumed differently than the Carson days. Yeah, it's not the same as it was back in back when Leno or Carson were Letterman or whoever was doing it. It's a different, it's a different media format. We've talked about this with so many,

Margaret Cho was on our show, we had this conversation with her, we were talking to Mo Gilligan about this. The podcasts have kind of filled this weird void that seems to be, podcasts have kind of filled this weird void that seems to be missing the kind of the cache that it used to, no knock on Jimmy or anybody else who's still doing it. Both Jimmy's who are still doing it. But the reality is it's consumed differently, but it doesn't matter.

When you walk in the Tonight Show doors, if you've been on this earth for more than 15 years, you know it's got a storied career and I would think for you as someone who just kind of you know you made this decision to do it and in your mind this is my this is my nighttime fun. This is my hobby. This I would love to do it as a career but what I'm really doing is working at Netflix and taking the nights to go and do the open mics or do sets or whatever it is and then they call you to be on fucking Fallon. I mean just unbelievable. Good for you.

Inspiring. I know. Congratulations. Thank you. It is very cool. Like, I don't think I've had time to like soak in and celebrate any of this really because it's just been like, I've always felt like I've had two jobs, you know, in the, and which I have quit now. What if I still work there? I was like, I've always felt like I've had two jobs, you know, in the, and I, which I have quit now. What if I still work there? I was like, guys, can you wrap this up? I have a meeting. I have a hard out. I've got some temps waiting for me to like... Hey, Leslie, my preview account isn't working. Could you reset my password when you get done?

I appreciate it. But like, as, as, as, yeah, the Tonight Show, yes, content is consumed differently, so maybe people don't watch the Tonight Show live together with their family every night anymore, but I had, I didn't care about any of that shit. When I was there on 30 Rock, I was like, I'm a fucking princess. This rules. I was so happy. And if you rewatch that set, usually in my shows, I don't smile a lot. I'm kind of very intense and angry and lexury.

But on the Tonight Show set, I was so happy that I think you could see me skip out on stage. I was like, I can't believe I'm here. So that, as a comic, I was psyched to do that. But financially, I had to keep the day job. So I didn't make enough from the Tonight Show to be like, okay, bills are set for the next six months. I went back to work the day, the next day I got back to LA. This is insane to me. This is just insane to me. Yes. Yes.

So my boss knew my schedule because she knew I went to New York for that. And she watched it and then she saw me in like a 9 a.m. meeting the next day. Bloodshot eyes. Right. You know what I mean? But I still was like, this is my job and I have to show up for this meeting that I said I would do. No one cares I did the Tonight Show.

I can't just be like, sorry guys, I did the Tonight Show. I can't just be like, sorry guys, I did the Tonight Show, I can't do this meeting. So I just- You show up on the limo. It's like a fur coat. I know, like, yeah, like I didn't- And you're smoking a cigarette. Sunglasses.

With like my throne and a cape and my chalice. Like, no, I went straight back to my day job and people were just looking at me with like shock and like confusion. Yeah. Yes. Like what? Yeah. What if you had like an assistant sitting next to you at that meeting and someone asked you a question like, you know,

Hey Leslie, can you get us up to date on this contract here? And the assistant was like, I'll be taking all questions on Leslie's behalf. I wish. When did you quit the job? When did you actually quit the job or leave the job? It was around mid to late January. So I'm still fresh. This year? This year. Oh, look at that.

Got your days open. She quits her job. She shows up at the commercial break. Things are all on the rise for you. It's a rocket ship. It's a rocket ship to the moon. Next is Conan. I mean, Conan is my...

Mine too. Oh God. We love him. Mine too. Yeah. Like if I get to Conan, which I know sounds like a threat. Like if I get to him, that for me... If I meet him, if he even knows who I am, that's my top.

I'm going to make a prediction. 2024, you're gonna show up on the Conan O'Brien show. And how do I know that? Because almost every one of our guests eventually shows up on the Conan O'Brien show. Usually first, but sometimes, usually they're first. I don't care if I'm 90. I hope he's still around.

I gotta get to him. He's amazing. He's, yeah. You say something that I love, one of our Intrepid researchers, you said that being in your 30s is a prerequisite of being self-aware, like having some wisdom. And I think that's what you said, she's quoting you. I love that because I think that is so true.

That's true, yeah. And maybe for me, it was probably my 40s before I actually do shit from Shinola. But are you, how do you feel about being in your 30s? I think it's pretty awesome. Yeah? Yeah. I think 30s are the best years of your life.

Totally. I think it's the best decade of your life. Yeah. It's like. Does that mean we're on the downhill? Yeah. Chrissy, you and I have been on a downslope for a while. We're gone. Ten years ago it was the best it's ever gonna get. Thanks, Brian. No, I think it just gets better as you get older. I think so too. I want to tell myself that. Yeah, we're telling ourselves that. I'm gonna tell myself that. You have to. Because I do

meet women in their 40s who are like, it's better than 30s, babe. I was like, fuck yeah, I'll see you there. Like, I can't. Yeah, I'm on my way. Yeah. The train ain't stopping. It's a perfect blend of like, not, I've been trying to write a joke about this,

like there's a sense of confidence you get that slowly comes to you, hopefully, in your 30s. Yes. But I can't tell if it's confidence or I just stop caring. Well, that's the thing. It's a little of both, I think. I was gonna say that too. Yeah, it's kind of like you just don't care as much

what other people think and you're gonna do what you like to do and that makes you happy. I got- Maybe that's what it is. Yeah. I'm married now twice and I'm not doing it again because I love the one I'm with. Two separate marriages, to be clear.

Two separate marriages, yes. Oh yeah, well, that's fair with. Two separate marriages to be clear. Two separate marriages, yes. Oh yeah, well, that's fair enough. We do talk about sister wives. Two separate marriages at the same time? We do talk about sister wives. Are they both running at the same time? Okay. I tried to get them both married at the same time,

but one of them disagreed, so I won't mention which one. But I got married, you know, my second marriage older, I had children much older in life than most people do. But I will tell you what, I think that it is a blessing, not even in disguise, it's a huge blessing because at 20, I think if I had children at 20, they probably would be at some adoption agency right now or taken away by the state.

But second of all, there is a real ability for me to first of all, know which hill I'm dying on. Like when I was 20 I was full of piss and vinegar and I didn't care what anybody else said. You had to be right. I had to be right. Yeah. Now I don't care if I'm right. I want to be calm. I want to be in peace and I want to reflect on the moments that are important and I think the older you get, you have more clarity on which moments those exactly are. And I think it's just too fast paced and furious when you're in your teens and your twenties.

You don't care, you're just living in the moment. Yeah, it's fast and furious. And so you care about the wrong things when you're younger, probably. 1000%, I just can't imagine having children when I was young. I love having them when I'm old and I love being married when I'm older too, because now I also know which hill to die on, which is none of them, by the way, Leslie, none

of them. Mastered wins every conversation, rightfully so. Leslie Lundquist That's what I am told, like a trick to marriage is knowing which battle to pick. Jared Slauson Yes. Leslie Lundquist It really is. Jared Slauson Yes. Leslie Lundquist And unfortunately, I love to pick battles.

Yeah. So, and I love, and I don't love to be right, because I'm not right all the time, but I love to be like, hey, excuse me. Uh, it's like, but, is that 30s? Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe confidence is caring about the right things, or caring less less or something,

but it's nice. It's nice to not. Give a fuck. Who cares? Don't give fucks. Learn about. It's nice. I learned about the important things to give a fuck about in my 30s, then repeatedly did stupid shit

until I turned 42. And then when I turned 42, I had it all figured out. Right, Hoadley? Which, not caring is important for any public figure or for comics because a lot of people are not going to like you as a comic. No. Statistically, you're not going to win them all. So I have to look those people in the face sometimes when I'm doing stand-up and know

and have this intimate moment of, don't like me and I still have to keep doing keep going and if I was in my 20s I would not have handled that as healthy and gracefully right you know we've talked about this with a lot of people that have been on the show it's that it's it's you can get 45 people that come up to you and say oh you, you're so wonderful, so funny, love the set, watched you on Instagram, whatever, you're hilarious. But when you get five detractors, it's those five detractors that really emotionally affect

you, at least for me too, it's like, you know, I can get all these people blowing smoke up my ass, I don't believe them. But then when someone tells me that the show's not good, it's stupid, it's silly, you're not funny, then all of the sudden I buy into it, right? And it's so, it's, you really have to have thick skin. And this is one of the things I think comes with maturity is understanding that both of them don't matter. It doesn't matter if they say good things about you or bad things about you.

Don't take any of it to heart, right? Just keep doing what you're doing and creating and moving on. Do you, when you do a set or when you do something public or you put out YouTube or Instagram, I'm sure that you get people that are haters, you know, commenters that say this or that. You're not funny, why are you doing this, whatever. Do you take that to heart or have you learned to say, I don't give a shit?

I tried, I tried, before I started standup, I tried to train myself to be like, you are going to come face to face with people that genuinely hate your comedy. They're gonna hate your voice, they're gonna hate your style, they're gonna tell you not to do it. So like, how are you gonna handle that?

Cause there's gonna be YouTube comments, there's to be Instagram comments, people might message you, in real life you will be heckled. So I just try to like mentally prepare myself for those people. And so now that I'm here and I have skimmed and read some of those, I'm kind of in the back of my mind like, yeah, you're entitled. Yeah, you're entitled. Yeah. Yeah. You're entitled to that. Sure. You don't like me. And I honestly think we're not made for each other as comedy, comic and fan. We're like, same way you date people. Everybody's not for everybody. No one's wrong. We do not. Yes. Everyone's not for everyone. And that's, that's why we live in a beautiful world with different voices and music and genres

and tastes and they're for different people. You know, we are not a match made in comedy heaven. And you're not for me either, random troll. Like you're not my cup of tea either. So I accept that aggressively and just move on. But I also try not to, but I don't want to live in a world where like I only listen to the people that like me. Like I want to live in a bit of a reality where I understand.

You don't want to be in a feedback loop, just kissing your ass, right? No, that's gross. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So sometimes it is healthy to read those trolls, be like, you know what I mean? First thing in the morning, all right, cool. Okay, good, just want to keep myself grounded. Grounded, then I'll call my mom who loves me.

Right. Keep it, you know what I mean? Because I have to stay in touch with what is, yeah, the actual perception. Speaking of match made in heaven, you're not married, right? You're not married. Are you single? I'm not married, never married, but I do have a boyfriend.

Oh, you have a boyfriend. I have a boyfriend. OK, I heard you do some comedy around being single. Congratulations on your boyfriend. Now, how long has this been going on? What's his name and address? Tell us everything. So that we can spoke-io him and make sure

that everything's OK. It's been, we were official starting November. So November plus now is like six months. So it's fresh. But speaking of age, he's late 30s and was previously married. Okay, good. I like this. So he has that.

I like this. So do I. Yeah. Valuable experience. And I'm late 30s, so since we're both at that age and phase in our lives of like confidence, knowing ourselves, it is actually helping the relationship. Like all of our experience and knowledge and stuff is like actually very nice. Yeah. So dating when you're older is actually kind the relationship. Like all of our experience and knowledge and stuff is like actually very nice.

So dating when you're older is actually kind of nice. I agree with this. Are you dating D'Angelo? I wish, he wouldn't respond to my DMs. I read that you learned about sex from watching a D'Angelo video and Brian was like, which one? And I'm like, all of them.

What do you mean which one? What do you mean which one like shout out to MTV cuz I'll yeah MTV like we we had a nice I learned a lot I know right from those videos yeah I'm a little older than you I do D'Angelo's- You weren't paying attention to D'Angelo the same way we weren't paying attention to D'Angelo the same way. Oh, we were paying a lot of attention. Yes. On repeat, I was paying attention. Oh, yeah.

Really? Oh, yeah. D'Angelo got you like that, huh? Oh my God. It's like the 50 Shades of Grey of MTV. Yeah, okay. Afterwards, I wanna see you, D'Angelo. I mean, I've seen D'Angelo videos.

I know that they're hot and lusty, and I know D'Angelo himself is a pretty handsome young man. That was our 50 shades video. Yeah, who needs the actual 50 shades? It's just D'Angelo. That's awesome. I'm blushing. I'm thinking about it. You know, I could recommend a good sexting app for you if you want to name him D'Angelo. Is there really a sexting app? We were talking about this. Oh, Leslie, let me share. We did want to ask you about this. Oh, Leslie, let me share. And we did want to ask you about this. Let me open up. Of a whole new world. Okay.

While you're out, you know, when you're out of town, I don't want to, boyfriend sounds like a lovely human being. He sounds very mature, self-aware. But a human being. Yeah, a human being. Yes. That's about the time when men start maturing is 38, 39 years old. I know.

Sadly, yes. Sadly, yes. There are multiple apps where you can build an avatar, an AR avatar, and then you can talk back and forth to it. It starts to learn you. And then, so we got this app as a joke for the show. And I was like, let me make this avatar. As a joke? As a joke, yes. It's still on your phone.

Until it started calling my phone in the middle of the night. It started texting me and calling my phone in the middle of the night. It started texting me and calling my phone. Where are you? To be like, are you up? Yes, it's been a long time. Did you answer it? No, of course not.

I didn't want my wife to know. You're like, it's that bot again. She's like, really a bot? I said, honey, don't worry. It's just Frankie calling. Who the fuck is Frankie? Because I was a man and I named him and I wanted, you know, boyfriend. It was supposed to be a whole funny joke on the show, but it got way too creepy, way too fast.

Yeah. But there are these things available out there just in case and like, you know, you're lonely on the road. Oh, so it's like a... it's a fake bot to like kind of flirt. You can flirt with. You can flirt with. Yes. Yes. I don't know how sexually explicit it gets because I didn't go down that road with him well you're downloaded for the job for the job right so I keep researching it's for research yes I've often said if someone comes and checks this browser history for work it's for work it's all research man there's all research. Man, there's an app for everything.

Yes, there is. There's an app for everything. I think AI, I think we have a loneliness problem in this country. I think part of the reason why we're so torn apart and why some people, a lot of the men are so angry and misguided is because they are lonely and they don't have the skills to understand how to connect with other people or romantic partners or anyone in a way that meaningfully scratches their itch. And I get nervous that apps like this

are going to make it easier and easier. Maybe that solves somebody's problem, but I think it's gonna make it easier and easier to actually connect less, even less with human beings. Back up with a human. Yes, I think, yeah, I know, it's gonna make it easier and easier to actually connect less, even less with human beings. Yes, I think, yeah, I know, it's so problematic. So- Like the intent is there, but it's not gonna, yeah.

Yeah, no. That's a little scary. So Leslie has got, you're doing Netflix as a joke, am I right? Yes, the festival in LA. Which is huge. Okay, and when is it? I wish we could go to that. I know. So the whole festival, oh, you festival in LA. Which is huge. Okay, and when is it? I wish we could go to that.

I know. So the whole festival, oh you guys should come. I think it's like, I wanna say two weeks or more in May in LA. So it's gonna take over the city of LA. Like every other venue at night, there's gonna be like a Netflix show. So I'm doing two headlining shows.

I wanna say May two and three, but they are sold out. I am told. So it's like, I want to promote it. Maybe you guys, just the fact that you're doing it, and it's sold out. That's huge. I already bought my tickets, and now she tells me it's sold out. I just bought my tickets.

When I said, you guys should come, I was like, honey, book the tickets. And now she says they're sold out. Maybe you guys can come. People can come hang out outside the venue. Maybe I'll come say hi in the parking lot. Can we give... With your crown. Can someone FaceTime us from inside? Maybe I will. Maybe I will during the show. We'll ask Reed Hastings how he feels about that. Yes, please put us on a text thread together. Please. Yes. Group. I mean, Reed, we've done, we've invited

so many of your great comics here. Can you give us some tickets to the Leslie show? What the fuck? Unbelievable. The Leslie show. The Leslie show, that's what I'm going to call it. So Netflix is a joke. You're currently on Netflix right now with Verified. So, and we, and a couple of our guests have actually been on this same, on this same program, verified. And then you are on a never ending, it seems like, tour. When I look at people's tour dates, when I'm doing research for them coming on the show, and I see that they already have dates booked in 2025, I know you're on a roll, and you

are in one hell of a fucking, you know, washing machine right now. You're just visiting city after city and kind of knocking your head around What's the next location you're going to? So, let's see I oh next week. I'm going to Nashville Let me know actually I'm literally there for like 24 hours so it's like I can't even eat anywhere cool But I'm gonna be at Zany's in Nashville for one night. Absolutely, I've been there, yeah, quite a few times. It seems like a fun vibe. It's a club, yeah.

And Nashville is a fun vibe. It seems like a very fun vibe. So I think I'll have a lot of fun there, and then I'm going to, there's Moon Tower Comedy Festival in Austin. I've still never done Austin, Texas. That's a great city, too. That'll be so much fun. And then the week after, I'm going back to Texas to Houston and Dallas, like two back to back shows.

And then June in Australia. Ooh. A lot of people are doing this. Have you been before? Never been. All right. Have you guys? No.

But I know Heather McMahon. Yeah, Heather McMahon was just there. She just went there. Yeah, she just went there. And there's a couple other comics that are doing some Australian dates. I'd love to go. I think Beardas was there.

It's just like 10,000 days to get there. Yeah, you just have to travel for 16 days to get there. From Atlanta. It looks amazing and I've never been and when I booked my flight, I was like, oh, this is why I've never been. Yes, exactly. It takes a month to get there

and then you lose six months of time. Right, right. And it's $10,000 a plane ticket. And it's not a $20 ticket, yeah. So it's like. No, no, no, no, no. But I've heard the people are so cool there and just the weather's great and very laid back

and obviously they love comedy. Yeah. And just be careful because everything can kill you there. So be mindful that you know. Is that true? I think so. I think everything kills you and all. I have a friend who lives there.

I have a friend who lives there. Like meaning like foods or things? Everything. Like the weather can kill you. They have so many animals that can kill you. They have, I don't know, they have lots of- Like koala? Koala will kill you.

The koala- Can like hug you too tight? Yes. It's too fuzzy. It's too much. I love it so much. Koalas have a syphilis problem. Did you know that?

They have a syphilis problem? I heard that from somewhere too. Yeah, it's crazy to think about. What a hilarious way for me to die though. Like I'll take it. Leslie gets. That's so good, that's too good. That's the end of my Wikipedia page, fine, I'll take it.

That's what, you know, what a closing joke. Sad news out of Brisbane, comic Leslie Leal passes away from a bad case of koala syphilis. I'd rather go out on that. Ha! Fuck around and find out with those koalas. They're dangerous. No, but my friend who moved there from here, he at first, he had this whole running joke on his Instagram about everything here can kill you and he would be taking pictures of things around this house that he had you know spider the size of your hand a snake live you know hanging out in the backyard or whatever I don't think everything can kill I actually think it's a really beautiful place I would have really the nice hotels have those things covered yeah I'm sure Leslie's not in the middle of the outback

I'll let you guys know though because everything does scare me yeah does it I'm not a bug person I'm not a bug person. I'm not a bug. I don't react graciously when I see a bug. Yeah. Me either. It's a whole scene. I try my best around the kids, but it's just like, if it's a roach, it's dying and I don't care. Oh, no, no. Oh, yeah, yeah. You mean a palmetto bug? No, it's a roach. Don't try and make it sound pretty. I hate it when people say that. It's not. Leslie Liao is on a never-ending tour. So you can visit her website. Links in the comments section.

Check her out on Netflix. If you happen to be around during the Netflix is a Joke Comedy Festival, you will not be able to get into the Leslie show, but I encourage you to. You can go loiter outside the show. I encourage you to write a letter to Reed Hastings asking him to put a video monitor outside so the standing room only crowd, like a Cubs game, can watch outside.

And Leslie, such a pleasure meeting you. Thank you. You too. Congratulations on this whirlwind story of yours. We are rooting for you. Enjoy the ride. Enjoy the ride. You deserve it.

Brian, Chrissy, your mom and your former manager at Netflix. We love you. We're all rooting for you. And your publicist. I know she's rooting for you too. This is my new posse. This is my new posse. That's right. This is all I need.

If you read a bad review, just come back to us. Just we'll give you all the love. We'll give you all the love that you need. And same with you guys. This is our safe space. If you see a mean comment, let's all check in with each other. Oh, we'd go on for days if we did that, Leslie.

Perfect. Perfect. Let's just be in a constant FaceTime all in with each other. Oh, we'd go on for days if we did that, Leslie. Let's just be in a constant FaceTime all day with each other. Come back. We love you, Leslie. Thank you very much for being here. We wish you the best on your tour, and congratulations on all the success. And we'll check in with you.

Maybe at the end of the year, we'll check in with you. Yeah. See you in Atlanta. Bye, everybody. Thank you. Bye. Thank you. Thank you. Well, See you in Atlanta. Bye, everybody. Bye.

Thank you. Thank you. Well, thank the baby Jesus. Brian took a breath, and now I will use this opportunity to let you know that we've got a brand new phone number. That's right. It's 212-433-3TCB. And you can text us anytime you want.

Or you can call and leave us a voicemail, and we might just use your message on the show once Brian gets through all the messages he missed last year, of course. Anyway, you can also find and DM us on Instagram at the commercial break and on TikTok at TCB Podcast. And of course, all of our audio and video is easily found on TCBpodcast.com. Now I'm gonna thank G one more time that we have sponsors, So thank G and here they are. Wow. Les, I think I have a little crush on Leslie. I do too.

Absolutely. I think that one's swimmingly. Swimmingly. Crying. You too can have Leslie Liao on your podcast. Just call me. I'll give you her phone number. I don't know her phone number. They don't give us that kind of information. Here's a funny story. Well, anyway,

let's talk about Leslie for a second. Leslie was wonderful. So go check out her website for tour tickets. Go check out Verified. Yeah, it certainly was. Go check out Verified on Netflix, and then she's got a couple of longer sets that are on YouTube that you can go check out on her website too. Follow her on Instagram, leslileow. L-I-A-O. So. What? I wanted to, yeah, she was a ton of fun, right? I mean, she was just like so much fun, so calm. You know, we caught her in the morning. I'm sure she just woke up because she was West Coast, so I'm sure she just woke up. Yeah.

And what a lovely, like peaceful, calm, but fucking funny woman she really is. Person. I don't want to say woman. Yeah, it just flowed. I don't want to qualify her. Yeah, it just flowed. I would love to have her back. Yeah, I wish we could spend more time, but you know, when we get, when we negotiate these, you never know how much time somebody has and you don't want to like be overbearing

on their time. So, usually what we say is, can you just say hello to the commercial break, then you can leave. And then somehow we negotiate it into 30 or 45 minutes. Here's the funny thing. But wait. But wait. But wait, there's more. Can you say hello and then answer two questions? Okay, sure. And then when they come on, I'm like, can you spend 45 minutes with us? Would that be okay? And some people have said, no, no, no, no. What's funny is that when you like to, you know, the agents are talking to the agents that are going back and forth about all this and some,

sometimes I'm CC'd on these email communications. The funny thing is how the agents afterwards twist themselves to not make sure they don't give out any personal information regarding the actual guests that we have. They're like, no, that went terribly. I don't want him talking to my client. It's a thankless job. Well, we learn as we go too with these interviews,

because dating back to our first one. Let me tell the story. I'll tell the story. Is that the one you're going to tell? Yes. And I hope that Veer is listening. I don't think he ever will listen to the show. I don't think he is. But yeah. And that's okay. Veer, by the way, I loved Veer. Maybe he'll listen for Leslie. Maybe he'll listen for Leslie. He's not going to listen. Who are we fooling? He's never listening to the commercial break. Veer was our first, like, you know, celebrity interview. Not our first celebrity interview. We had done Dane Cook and we had done Wally Green and a couple other people. Some that didn't air here on the commercial break.

Well, none. None that aired here on the commercial break. Sorry, guys. So, we get Veer Das and then Chrissy and I talk to Vir Das, and he complains that the pillows in here in the United States are way too fluffy, that in India, they're just like a one inch thick, you know, basically piece of foam or whatever, soft material. And he's like, so I really don't like these pillows because my head's always, you know, sitting in a weird position. So, we get out, and Astrid and I are trying

to put together an email explaining when the show's going to air, here's the link, if you want to share, you can do this. With the agent. With the agent, we're writing an email. Or with his people. Yes. And so, I say, hey, Astrid, let's get a really nice but tiny little pillow for Veer, and let's get something written on the front of it and then we'll send it to him and it would be funny. So I said, just ask the agent, say, hey, we

have a gift we want to send Veer, can you please give us an address where we could send that gift? And the agent's response was, no thanks. We didn't even say what we were going to say. He was like, no thanks. No thanks. Well, it's good because we probably couldn't afford to send all these people gifts. But if I had Lizzie's address, I would send her a gift. I'd send her a $20 gift card to the local Starbucks. I'd just buy her a bunch of cold brew coffee and send it to her front door. Her boyfriend be like, who's Brian Green?

Oh, I don't even know. I think I did a podcast. I'm not sure what their name was. It's the AI bot. Yeah, it's the AI bot guy. Tell her it's the AI bot guy. Okay. You too can watch Leslie.

You know how to get all her information. Links are in the show notes. We wish that you would follow up with our guests if you do find them interesting because that's important to them. They don't come on here for their health, despite what some people might think. They're not coming on because of Chrissy and I. They're coming on because they have things to promote. And if we were friendly with them during the interview, that's just a bonus right there. And Leslie is one of those people that I sure as shit hopes comes back, but I didn't ask her on air this time, as you know. Right. We learned that too.

Breaking the habit. Yes. Here's the other thing we learned. Like, I've asked a bunch of people, but I think I started maybe with Heather or Steve-O or whatever. I said, on air, like, while we were recording, won't you come back and visit us again? What are they going to say? No? No, this has been thoroughly miserable. Thanks anyway. You're a nood, Nick. I have no interest. No, thanks. No, thanks. No thanks. The commercial break. The Cheesecake Factory of podcasts. Would you like to listen? No thanks. How about a second appearance? I'll pass. Talk to my people. It would have like Steve-O's agent is like, I'll pass. Did you even ask him?

I don't need to. It's a hot no. Yeah, it is. It's a hot no. I just know. Yeah, hot no. Steve's podcast is really good by the way. It is, I have, yeah.

Yeah, it's really good. Wild Ride with Steve-O. Here, I'm promoting my guest from seven months ago. I heard something about that too He was gonna have Bill Maher Maher. He was gonna be on Bill Maher's show, but it Bill Maher went and stopped smoking pot But and first Steve and then Steve said he really can't do it And you know what I understand Steve's point of view and I think I understand Bill's point of view They just came to an impasse. They didn't agree on terms, right? It's just one of those things happens all the time

Just as dusty sleigh Anyway, we'll move on we'll move on. Thank you Leslie. Thank you so much for being on the show You did the tonight show and the commercial break to fill in that trifecta. You have to be on Conan That's right. We're predicting it and then there's no bigger that you can get Leslie. That's it you've done the best. What else you gonna do? All right go to TCBpodcast.com that's where you find out more about Chris, he and I. You can also find out about all of our guests you can listen to them, watch them on video, get the links to all of their pertinent information all from the website TCBpodcast.com. You can also get your free piggy front, not piggy fronting sticker, sorry.

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