The Commercial Break - The Rogue Joe and The Stern Coyote
Episode Date: February 14, 202299x was one of the first radio stations in the country to bring alternative and grunge to the mainstream. Bryan and Krissy were living in Atlanta to witness it all happen and they share some 99x histo...ry. Then, some disturbing audio and video has been highlighted from Joe Rogan and Howard Stern. Bryan and Krissy share some updated thoughts on the ongoing controversy. Finally, Bryan has a bit of a fixation on wayward radio DJ's. He uncovers a treasure in 80's Alabama DJ Coyote Calhoun. Coyote is one fun guy...setting up his own fake murder live on air, wrestling a live bear and of course, going bat sh*t crazy on air. Bryan and Krissy review some old tape! LINKS: Send us show ideas, comments, questions or concerns by texting us or leaving a voicemail at: 1.855.TCB.8383 Lululemon.com is for people who like comfort! Watch Us on YouTube Creator: Bryan Green Co-Host: Bryan Green Co-Host: Krissy Hoadley Written By: Bryan Green Exec Producers: Bryan Green & Krissy Hoadley Content Production & Research: Tina Khano YouTube Producer & Editor: Morgan Please Audio Editing: Christina A. Executive Director: Astrid B. Associate Producer: Gustavo Episodic Contribution: Marianne, Diane, Natalie, Will The Champ, Will D** Huge Thanks To Our Supportive Listeners, Friends, Family & Spouses: Astrid & Jeff!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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You are probably wondering, what in the fuck is Brian doing talking to me on a Monday morning?
Well, surprise, surprise, you now get three The Commercial Break podcast episodes each
week.
Monday, Wednesday and Friday, as Chrissy and I dedicate more time to the show and the
listenership grows, we wanted to put more content out to the world.
We felt an extra episode was the best way to do that, so argue amongst yourselves.
If you hate us, this is terrible news, and if you love us, this just means we're occupying more space in your head.
Either way, congratulations to all of you and best to you!
Now, like any fantastic gift that you get, there's always a downside, and the downside is the bit,
the little thing that we produce
that we put at the front of every show.
Takes a lot of time, energy, and effort
to put those together, and so Chrissy and I have decided
to do one of those a week in lieu of an extra hour
of Chrissy and I in the studio.
So there you go, stop your bitch, and you'll get what you get,
and you'll like it, and here's the very first Monday episode of the commercial break.
Enjoy. On this episode of the commercial break, we like to get together and blowcoating
It doesn't show about that. It doesn't show about that anyways Dr. Phil
Dr. Phil, please, Dr. Listen, don't get us on that.
We shouldn't talk about Dr. Phil, he's on our network, so let's leave alone.
But Dr. Phil is hardly the bellweather of cool.
Exactly. Sure that there are many 50-year-old soccer moms
who are into him and find cool.
Whatever you're into,
Mari Povitch is still on too.
But Nikki Six, Dr. Phil had him in his cell phone.
He had Nikki Six in his cell phone.
Tell me who's fucking boring now.
You have Dr. Phil on Speed Dial, dude.
India R.E. got a hold of a video, that video,
they basically, someone put a compilation together
of about, I don't know, 50 times,
Joe Rogan used the N word and he used it.
And a number of other things,
I'm not gonna get into it,
we know it's not here for the show, but.
And that's not your right.
I have known since I was five years old.
Yeah, don't say it. Don't say that fucking work. Don't ever say that word
It's not mine to use. It's never was pleasant
Here I'm not well, you know, I play two or three cuts off the pink Floyd CD in the past three months
You know how I did it? I sneak to the CD in here and I played it without authority without permission
Why? Because I knew you wanted to hear it. The CD has sold four million copies. We played nothing off it
That's a good business.
He's sneaked. Yeah, he sneaked.
He also sneaked a new word in the English language.
The next episode of the commercial break starts now
I was a little bit nervous over now no no
music
music just
soot this all but what you can't see what you won't ever see even if you go to youtube dot com slash the
commercial break and subscribe is that christie and i are dancing always at the beginning of the show because i think we just like shaking out all of the stress and all of the day
so that when we turn on the microphone, I can say,
best of you, Chrissy.
Best of you, Brian.
Best of you out there in the podcast, universe and, and mean it.
Exactly.
Oh, that one.
I know.
We play our instruments.
Yeah.
Our air instruments.
That's right.
We play our instruments.
I review the show notes and we twit along.
What a great song.
It is. I should give this guy credit for the music. I
mean I always it's the flamingos. It's the name of the I think it might just be the band that plays
this song. Okay. But I actually think it's just one guy who's making the song. Nice. But he calls
himself the flamingos. It's talented. Oh, it's called Dresden Something. The flamingos Dresden
Something is the name of the song.
I love it.
It never gets old.
We've been doing it now for a while.
A hundred and fifty shots.
Yeah.
Congratulations to you, my friend.
And I don't feel like it's getting old.
No.
Like I like it.
I want to keep it.
Same with the ending song.
I think it would be a big deal if we changed the song.
I think it would be a big deal.
Let's keep it.
Yeah, changing the ending song, we can go with that.
But I'm still into the song at the end of the outro.
I do too.
As we call it.
So I wanted to share something with you.
Let's take a look here on the old TCB screen.
It's Eddie Vetter and Nikki Six.
Oh, are they in a feud?
You know, there's no secret.
If you know me, that I'm a big Pearl Jam fan.
Have them for a long time in the kid of the 90s and Pearl Jam,
Nirvana, Alston, Chains, Sound Garden.
I love all those two.
I was reading So here in Atlanta, there was a one of the first stations
to ever play grunge music on rotation.
Was a station here in Atlanta called 99x.
Yeah.
With the station, what are they called a programmer? The station
programmer being a lady named Leslie Fram, who was like in radio is
like, we'll go down in history as one of the best radio programmers
ever.
Nice.
Leslie Fram.
Oh, boss.
Girl boss.
Indeed.
And when they were playing like pop music on a station called power 99
Yeah, power
They hired Leslie and some other people and they said these guys got together
These this group of people four or five of them got together and said there's this new music
Why are we playing this crappy kind of outdated, you know, pop music, Madonna and
all this, you know, Motley crew and poison or all this shit. There's something new.
When Guns n' Roses, Mud Honey, you know, the Pixies, there's these bands out there that are
playing this new and exciting music, but no one's playing them. Or maybe one other station
in the country was playing this kind of music, but not on full-route.
It had to be on C in Seattle.
Of course.
No, it was actually in LA.
I said, yeah, I'm sure that there was an LA station
that was keeping a college station
or something like a low-watt station.
So 99x flipped format, and they started playing,
basically listener requests for alternative,
what was not known then as alternative music,
but for music that wasn't popped necessarily, right?
Their favorite bands that they were hearing out on the streets,
you know, picking up CDs and these new bands
that they were going to see,
and what it became was this alternative format
where they would play Sound Garden in Nirvana and Pearl Jam,
you know, all of them.
So.
Black Hole Sun.
Black Hole, yeah.
Black Hole, yeah.
Black Hole, yeah.
Black Hole, yeah.
Black Hole, yeah. Black Hole, yeah. Black Hole, yeah. Black Hole Sun, yeah. Black Hole Sun, yeah. Black Hole Sun, but all of it. Thank you, bad motor finger. The first sound garden arm. I just wore that shit.
I just had a temple of the dog.
Eddie Betters, you know, first mother love bone,
which was what Pearl Tam was before Eddie joined
with Andrew Wood.
I think it was this name died of heroin overdose.
Anyway, you get it.
If you, you know, I know that some of our listeners
are much younger than we are, but you have to be kind of,
you know, dense, not to know a little bit about the 90s.
And the Grungeard lasted very shortly.
It was like 1992 to 1996.
It was a four year period
when these guys took over the world.
And Eddie Vetter was at the forefront.
He was at the forefront.
He kind of became the poster child
because he was good looking.
The music was accessible.
Nirvana was a little bit more dirty and grungier.
So even though Kirk Cobain was certainly
the voice of a generation, also,
Pearl Jam sold millions and millions and millions
of records.
They were, and Eddie Vetter was anything but boring,
but Eddie Vetter in a recent interview said that,
you know, it was time to change because
all these bands were dressing up like women, you know, printing their hair around change because all these, you know, bands were dressing up like women,
you know, printing their hair around and putting a bunch of makeup on. Not there's anything wrong
with that. It was style of the time. Yeah, it was. But it was getting old, right? He says, listen,
you know, what was it? Let me just wear my flannel shirt and be comfortable. That's right. Uh,
he said that he said that Molly Crew was vacuous and despised.
He said that he said that Molly crew was vacuous and despised. I didn't know being it shows that I wouldn't have chosen to go to.
Bands that monopolized the late 80s MTV, the metal bands, and I'm trying to be nice here
that I despise.
Girls, girls, girls, and Motley crew.
I'm talking to you.
I hated it.
I hated how they made those photos.
You trying to be nice?
He's trying to be nice.
I hated how it made women look.
It was so vacuous, I hated it.
Very misogynistic, for sure.
Or for sure.
Look at any Motley crew member from the 80s, and it's just an ass all over the place.
And Nikki Six's body biography was just disgusting of some of the tales with the women.
Yeah.
The 80s hair bands were, you know, Motley crew, poison, all of them.
I can go through the list, but all of them were just super machismo.
They dressed up like women, but they apparently hated women at the same time because they
just...
They thought less of them.
Yeah, they objectified them any opportunity they got.
That's really what MTV was all about for a few years there and listen
You know that was what was selling yeah, so they were getting rewarded for it
So it just kept on going and you know to be fair to what whoever these
Yeah, who's were back then, but then guns and roses came out. Yeah, guns and roses changed the scene
I'm not saying that guns andoses wasn't also, you know, not objectifying women because, of course,
they were, but their music was different.
Yeah, it was.
It was hard, it was edgy, it was real as well.
Wow, Guns and Roses.
And that first album, Apetyver Destruction,
was like, holy shit!
Yeah, this is fucking good.
And I also hated hair metal at the time.
I didn't, I wasn't a huge fan of poison amount.
I listened to it because that's what was there.
Right.
And I was also a young guy, you know,
it's 11, 12, 13 and impressionable.
When Guns n' Roses appetite for destruction came out,
I begged my parents to get that tape.
I got that tape and I wore it out within a year.
It started warping because I just went over and over again.
It's so good.
Yeah, and it was so like, and I knew, like Mr. Brownstone,
I knew they were talking about heroin,
even at 12 years old. I knew they were talking about heroin, and I knew, like Mr. Brownstone, I knew that we're talking about heroin, even at 12 years old.
I knew that we're talking about heroin,
and I loved the fact in my head.
I was like, this is so fucking, I'm so fucking cool.
I know.
Yeah.
We're making an action with, we're still brownstone.
So anyway.
So anyway.
He won't leave me alone.
He won't leave me alone.
No, no, no, no.
He won't leave me alone.
It's stuck in the middle, man. It's stuck in the middle, man. I get me out of my mind. I used to know better, better, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no the time, right? And then Nikki Six says, Nikki Six replies,
maybe laugh today how reading how much the singer of Pearl Jam hated Motley crew.
The singer of Pearl Jam, like he doesn't have a name.
He basically took your fucking job.
There's a reason why you guys stopped touring.
And 1992, it's because no one wanted to hear you they wanted to hear Eddie, right?
And that's what happens old music of new music comes in old music.
Exactly. No, it's a fresh bat. Yeah, and that's him.
And listen, you're back to ring with Motley Crew. So, you know, you guys look like a bunch of skeletons up there, but hey,
let's, let's push like that basis. What's his name?
He was like, I'm fucking, I think he might have actually passed away. Am I talking about a dead person?
I'm talking about a dead person.
He looked like a dead person even when he wasn't dead.
So he says, now considering, I hated how the Pearl Jam singer said,
considering they're one of the most boring bands and history,
I guess it's kind of a compliment that he hates us.
So hashtag Stadium Tour, hashtag Rock n Roll.
Now, you do, you do.
Listen, yeah, cool story about you, mainlining vodka, right?
What a shining example. Oh, my his book, the hero in diaries is awful.
It's awful. I read it because I was curious and like,
autobiography, rock, autobiographies, but I was not. I felt gross.
But the time I had done, I had done reading it.
Yeah, they listened.
Yeah.
I hardly think Eddie Vat.
And he was saying on my words, he would go into his closet and just like go mad.
Yeah.
And I mean, he was doing so much here and it just drugs, coke, whatever.
Because that's the, that was the embellished lifestyle that they lived.
And then Eddie Vat, Kirk Cobain,
and so many others.
And I'm talking about the ones that we,
that our audience, everybody would know, right?
But there are so many others that were kind of the anti-monetly
group slash poison, slash stick, whatever.
And the reason why they were is because they said,
that's enough, it's bullshit, it's unreal, it's not true.
Now, that's not to say that Eddie Vetter didn't put some,
you know, effects on his vocals too. He did did but then years later released it without the vocals Eddie Vetter is far from
Aboring me now far. Yeah from I agree. Oh my god. This drives me crazy. And we're still relevant very relevant
I mean they're hanging on very relevant to me. They're hanging on you know to the past
You do like Eddie's doing new stuff. Eddie's doing, they're all doing new stuff.
He's on his own tour.
He's, and listen, Eddie, they too will have their moment
when it just looks like they're propping them up there
to make a couple bucks.
It happens to everybody, but, you know,
listen, the Rolling Stones are still touring.
They're still considered super cool.
And, yeah, and I mean,
they're amazing.
And they're still making new records too.
I haven't heard a new Montlick Crew record.
Or maybe they put one out, but I haven't heard about it.
Right?
I hardly think this is even an argument.
Eddie Vetter is not one of the most boring lead singers
that that ever was.
And Nikki Six was kind of washed up at that time.
Now, I know that there's lots of people
that probably like Montlickro and go and watch them,
and we'll argue with me to the end to the degree
about Montenegro and their relevance
and rock and roll history.
Here's what I gotta say.
Pearl Jam, the combined members of Pearl Jam
are worth half a billion dollars, half a billion dollars,
with Eddie being like 150 in the rest of the band
being 70 or 80 a piece.
That's amazing.
Nikki Six and the members of Montenegro
are worth a little less than $200 million.
Yeah.
You say how many albums are the two sold?
Well they don't sell albums anymore.
That's not how it works, right?
You sell songs.
But Pearl Jam has sold 150 million copies of some version of their music with Montlichrue
selling a little less than a hundred million, like 98 million.
So, who's boring now, you f-t-t-wad?
It makes me mad.
I didn't have any bone to pick with you, Nikki.
And now I do.
Yeah.
Do you remember when Dr. Phil had a late- you had- there was a lady that was married to you
and Dr. Phil?
Yeah, we did a show about that.
Some lady thought she was married to Nikki's.
And you went on Dr. Phil
To let her know that you were married together anybody who shows up on Dr. Phil is not cool. Not cool
Rocking all sorry don't go on Dr. Phil hashtag. Yeah, not when Dr. Phil
I think in the clip he was like a good friend of man
From Molly crew we like to get together and blowcoating
the troopers.
It doesn't show about that.
It doesn't show about that anyway, Dr. Phil.
Like, yeah.
Please, Dr. Listen.
Don't get us on that.
Don't get us on that.
We shouldn't talk about Dr. Phil.
He's on our network, so let's leave alone.
But Dr. Phil is hardly the bellweather of cool.
Exactly right.
We're sure that there are many 50-year-old soccer moms
who are into him and fine.
Cool, whatever you're into.
Mori Povitch is still on too.
But Nikki Six, Dr. Phil had him in his cell phone.
He had Nikki Six in his cell phone.
Tell me who's fucking boring now.
You have Dr. Phil on Speed Dial, dude.
I guarantee you any better
does not have Dr. Phil on Speed Dial. dude. I guarantee you any better, does not have Dr. Phil on Speed Dial.
Not to mention I met Eddie once, and he's just a very,
very coolest guy that you could,
I mean, in my 13-second interaction with him,
he was just a very coolest guy that you could ever have met.
And I think I just felt personally but hurt by this.
So I thought that I would.
That's what this podcast is here.
Are you all grieving this? Ah, I'm not a cat.
Don't agree.
That's a, I don't agree.
Why don't you agree?
I just don't.
I just don't.
I'm not sure why we'll get to that.
Yeah.
Okay, we got to talk about this because we made a whole video about it.
And now we got to go back and talk about it again.
I know.
I know.
I know. Well, more has come out. I don't even know what to talk about it again. I know. I know.
More has come out. I don't even know what to say about this anymore. More has come out now.
Originally it was the anti-vaxx person and so there was a little question and you know like,
okay, free speech and maybe you should have more people on but now. Yeah, let's
preface this because if you're not watching then what we're talking about is Joe Rogan's and now Howard Stern is involved in this.
I am a Howard Stern list.
I haven't heard the Howard Stern part.
Yeah, okay, so here it is.
So we put out a video and our sentiment was that if you go canceling, Joe Rogan had some
doctors on that gave what many mainstream scientists or the majority of scientists
and doctors believe is COVID misinformation.
Right, false.
And these are two controversial doctors because many people believe that they are giving away false
information.
We're not here to argue the validity of that.
What I said was that there is discourse going on.
Joe Rogan is an entertainer.
You shouldn't get your medical advice from Joe fucking Rogan
So get it from us you should get it from us because we
stayed in last night at a holiday in and
It basically like don't don't go to don't go to a podcaster for COVID information, right?
And he had these two controversy of doctors on specifically about this first controversy and a bunch of people
Neel Young included said we're pulling our music unless you pull
Joe Rogan because we don't want to be in and associated with these anti-vaxxers.
I don't see Neil Young pulling his shit from I Heart who still carries
Rush Limbaugh Glenn Beck or I don't think carries a Glenn Beck but he carries
he did but they still have his old shows up there.
Re-runs the rush.
You must be in a bad place.
It's a re-runs the rush.
Hey, what's going on, man?
I'm just over here listening to Re-runs the rush.
This is a great episode from 1986.
I never played this one.
It's just bust out of the hard guys.
That's right.
It's like a grateful dead guy.
Hey man, you got a June 4th,
and the April 1986, I'll trade you for a Bill Clinton 1994. Oh my god.
Anyway, so listen, I think they took a stance.
They took a stance and they have the right to do so.
And I like the young as a musician.
There's a lot of canceling going on right now.
I can't sleep.
You can't keep up with it.
The argument was the cancellation culture is circular.
It's coming back to you.
Right? Be careful that one opinion, one loud opinion
doesn't become the voice for every other opinion.
The truth is let the discourse happen
and then you should make up your mind based on...
Research the facts.
Yeah, research the facts.
Make up your mind based on facts,
not on something you heard on a fucking entertainment podcast,
but don't cancel Joe,
not because I like Joe any more than I like the next guy,
but yeah, I never even listened to Joe,
but I don't listen to him much either.
And I haven't listened to these episodes
with the doctors on them.
But the Spotify CEO comes out and says the same thing
that we're saying, and by the way, Howard Stern,
who we're gonna talk about here in a minute,
defended Joe Rogan also in the sense that he said the same thing I did, don. And by the way, Howard Stern, who we're gonna talk about here in a minute, defended Joe Rogan also
in the sense that he said the same thing I did,
don't cancel Joe, right?
It's just getting out of control.
Like anything you ever say that someone doesn't like,
then you have to issue an apology and go away.
So Chrissy and I put a video together,
we said the same thing, basically,
or following the sentiment of a lot of people,
liberals and Republicans,
including Vaxers and anti-Vaxers included,
don't cancel Joe.
Now, okay.
Now there's been some new developments.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But if we're just talking about the vaccination shit.
Right.
Wow.
That's one thing.
But when someone, India R.E. got a hold of a video, that video, they basically, someone
put a compilation together of about, I don't know, 50 times Joe Rogan used the N word
and he used it and a number of other things.
I'm not going to get into it.
We know it's not here for the show.
But that's not right.
I have known since I was five years old.
Yeah, don't say it.
Don't say that fucking word.
Don't ever say that word.
It's not mine to use.
It's never was pleasant.
My mom, when I was growing up in Chicago,
I remember like an episode of Oprah,
where they were talking about race.
Oh, okay, yeah.
And in this episode of race, my mom was crying.
And because Oprah was always,
my mom was always watching Oprah.
And my mom was crying. And I remember a conversation. I mom was always watching her front. And my mom was crying.
And I remember a conversation,
I don't remember exactly what said,
obviously I was five or six years old.
But she said, you never judge anybody
by the color of their skin,
who they choose to love,
or who they choose to worship.
Ever, don't ever do it.
Yeah.
And that was beaten into my head
ever since I was a small kid.
Me and Sue and I grew up in the South. So. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, that was a beaten into my head ever since I was a small. Me and say when I grew up in the South.
So. Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, I was never, that was never okay word.
Never. And I don't think I've ever used it casually or, I mean, listen, anyway, I have,
I would never choose to use that word under any circumstances.
Correct. Joe, on older episodes up until 2017, he really had like he put they kind of strong them together now
Joe says it was out of context. There's a whole video you can go watch about Joe apologizing and it's not to say the Joe's
Idea of whether or not the N word is okay to say may not have evolved. It's just a tough thing
So then
Howard then that's not the only thing I saw another thing with Joe
what do you say he had some comedian on that I guess used to what's the Joey Diaz yes yes yes talking
about how he used to make a girl give him head yeah for stage time yeah and Joe is thinks that's
the most hilarious thing ever yeah that's not good Joe Joe. Well, Joey Diaz, whatever. I'm not even gonna get into it.
I don't want to start an argument with Joey Diaz. Don't know him. Don't care. Okay.
Howard Stern gets roped into all of this because now Republicans are saying, well, if it's okay to
cancel Joe, then we should cancel Howard because Howard, Howard never, they haven't, it's not about the N word. He did an incredibly, incredibly insensitive and racist bit
on his New York show.
His day, he said he's like a New York local television show
where he was dressed in black face
and had like fried chicken in front of him
in Anciamimo, a wall, like, you know, sir, oh, they,
it was so fucking disturbing to be honest with you. I had never seen the clip, I watched it and I was like, you know, sir, oh, they, it was so fucking disturbing to be honest with you. Yeah.
I had never seen the clip.
I watched it and I was like, holy shit.
And then Sherman, somebody or other, the guy who was on that show, what is it, uh, uh,
moving on up to the Jefferson's.
Oh, yeah, the Jefferson's.
And so Sherman, what was his name?
You remember him, like Sherman, something or other, the guy who played Mr. Jefferson.
Yeah.
He was in the bit with him all dressed as whoopi Goldberg.
So Howard's dressed in black face as somebody,
he's dressed, he's pretending to be whoopi Goldberg,
and then Robin is a part of it too,
who's obviously a black lady, right?
This whole thing is just a fucking train wreck
from beginning to end, and now it's come out,
so now everybody is calling for cancellation
of both of these.
You're delivering one.
Cancel the bow!
Except for, I mean, what's not even.
Listen, I mean, the whole of the whole stuff.
Yeah, I don't want to get into the political edge of it,
but I just, I wanted to update everybody
because we did put this video out,
and I want you to know that we put that video out
before any of this came to light.
Because we're neither of us are big Joe Lerogon listeners.
I had no idea that he felt it was okay
to use that word so liberally.
I don't think it is.
He apologized, it's not for me to accept the apology.
That's not me for me to say, oh great, you apologize, congratulations.
Yeah, listen, people can change, I guess.
You know, attitudes and ideas can change.
I've listened to Howard Stern for a long time.
I've never sensed at all that the guy is racist or sex sex is he's a big champion
of, you know, you know, gay rights and activism and transgender. Yeah, he seems pretty
inclusive. Yeah, he seems pretty inclusive. Everybody. Yeah. And then that would be hard to be
super racist with Robin sitting right there too. I mean, you would think that if you didn't
care for black people to work to like be so loyal to Robin would be a
difficult thing to do or that the listeners would be able to kind of see right through it or hear
right through it like oh that's yeah why are or he would be saying disparaging things to her about
her. Now I'm not defending Joe over Howard or Howard over Joe don't give a shit. I just wanted the
audience to get an update on where we are in this controversy and now I think Spotify has a real fucking problem on their hands.
And serious possibly too.
Serious and Spotify have a real fucking problem on their hands.
And this, we have not heard the last of this.
I don't think so.
And because we're podcasters, we have no FCC on our back.
We're not in the radio space.
We put this out.
People listen. They don't listen. radio space. We put this out people listen
They don't listen the publishers who it was the saying heavy is heavy as a hand that will
But heavy is the crown
Heavy is the crown. Yeah, can you imagine being Joe Rogan? Yeah, I mean your number one you're getting paid
Bukes two point tons of money two point two billion
two point tons of money
2.2 billion
down month per year you got it your allies are on you all eyes are on you and you're gonna have the answer for your show
It's like being vetted for a presidential race. Yeah, it's all coming out, dude
Yeah, and that's why we're happy with number 12 on the improv comedy chart. We'll stay right here
Not that I'd be afraid of anything like racist or sex is coming out.
I never asked for blow jobs for air time.
However, I'm sure there's something out there like my third grade math quiz or something
that I don't want out there.
Gadsome of the kids.
Gadsome of the kids.
I'm surprised we haven't been canceled already.
That's just big honest there.
Joe and Howard got some explain to do here. I'm surprised we haven't been canceled already. Let's just be honest there.
Joe and Howard got some explain to do here.
I don't know how this is all going to shake out.
But I do think that people's minds can change and their attitudes can change.
I will say that, but it's not for me to accept the apology.
It's for my apologies.
I'm not the one the apologies should be directed at,
so it doesn't matter.
So I think if Joe is trying to apologize to his audience,
his audience is already bought into his shit, right?
And if Howard is gonna apologize to his audience,
they've already bought into his shit.
It's not them, meaning the audience,
who has to be, I give forgiveness.
It's the people whom they are offending, right?
And trust me, some of this stuff that was said,
is extraordinarily difficult to listen to.
Extorted to it.
You haven't listened to it?
Maybe you'd be better off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Now, a word from our sponsors.
Radio. Like you and I came from radio, right?
And so we're in this radio business.
And it really seems like when we were there, that there were a few people that were elevated
to such status that they could say anything
that they cared to say, and they would get away
with it no matter what.
On air.
Yeah, on air.
And no one ever had to answer for that stuff.
No one ever had to answer for the incredibly insensitive
things that they were saying.
Like it was just a stream of consciousness bullshit coming out of a few really powerful
rating.
And it was shock.
And it was meant to be shocking on some formats.
You have to be entertaining and you have to get the listeners to pay attention and how
do you do that?
You kick them in the nuts every once in a blue moon.
The problem is that then some of those listeners take that to heart and they believe what
they're listening to. But they believe that the people, it's kind of like some of those listeners take that to heart and they believe what they're listening to.
But they believe that the people, it's kind of like some of these news TV personalities, not the actual news people,
but the TV personalities who are on the news stations.
People believe that they believe everything that they're saying.
When the truth is they don't believe everything that they're saying, they're just looking for ratings.
They see what is popular in the news.
Which way to win, blowing, Yeah. If you're making money,
it doesn't matter what you say. You're going to be, there's going to be apologists for
you everywhere. And that is why radio. And then everybody else in radio, you can be expendable.
If you're not making money or you don't have the ratings, you think that, think about
how many people we worked with at that station, at the cluster of stations that came in and
out of those doors, personalities, radio personalities.
Oh yeah, it was always showing a way like trash.
They would hand out million dollar checks,
like it was going out of style.
Remember when it was one guy?
Yeah, I know.
I don't get into it.
I'm gonna do it.
It was one guy at our cluster.
And it was as if fucking Queen Mary was showing up
at a far front door.
He was like the red carpet.
Oh, crazy.
I remember thinking when I heard that we had him,
I was like, who the fuck is that?
But he had had like one viral video or song
or something like that.
Yeah, he was on like the biggest loser or something too.
He was in one of those like weight loss shows.
Yeah, he was in one of those weight loss shows.
Yeah. He was a TV star.
He was a comment to the radio.
And he was on and he came to one of our stations
that was really trying to make it in the market.
Mine.
That was how it's tried to sell advertising for.
So this guy, so for weeks, there's like,
I'm the build up.
There's one.
Hank Williams Jr.,
he's being the radio station. Taylor Swift's gonna be doing a radio show. Bill? Bill? Bill? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, upstairs in the corner. And when they made the announcement, the day of the Christmas party. And this guy showed up to the Christmas party.
That's a reveal of how it's going to happen.
Yeah. And people were like grabbing his ball.
And he was like, because he had been on the biggest loser. Now for a lot of people, I'm
sure that, you know, they've never been that close to celebrity.
Including this guy.
Yeah.
Well, you celebrity lightly, I mean, yeah.
This guy came, and let me tell you something, audience.
Let me tell you something, TzB listeners.
He lasted exactly two days, two fucking days.
He didn't show up to work for the first three days.
He lasted a little longer than that, but it was like, it was two months.
Yeah, he was like running around, grabbing tits, grabbing ass, pulling his penis out.
And this guy was, this guy, this guy was a hot train wreck.
He'd show up like still drunk from the night before
we're doing lines in the bathroom.
This guy got a million dollar fucking check,
a million dollar check, which trust me,
was a lot of money just even 10 years ago.
Was a lot of money.
He got a million or something,
I mean, that's a speculation,
but I think we can front him with a million dollars, right? He got a million or something. I mean, let's it was speculation, but I think I think we can
Confirmed over a million dollars, right? He got a million fucking dollar check and this guy was there less than two months
And he didn't show up for half the days
He was supposed to work and the other half of the days everybody was pissed off on him because he didn't know what the fuck he was doing
Or he wasn't sober enough to figure it out
Yeah, this is and it was ridiculous
So they kick him out and you know what they pay him whatever another hundred and eighty thousand dollars to leave. Then there you
got the two you know morning zoo crew at the other radio station who were literally putting
small people in refrigerators that were being used for food. They put him in a refrigerator.
You know dangerous. It is somebody in a refrigerator right now. That's why they can't lock.
That's why refrigerators cannot lock
is because people-
You can be stuck inside.
Yeah, people are throwing them out in the 70s.
Kids were playing in them and put it in top 10.
I mean, I don't want to make fun of it,
but yeah, but these guys were doing it live on air
with the refrigerator used by the staff
to keep their smelly leftovers.
It was fucking incredible.
Well, they got kicked out after two, three months. They were gonna be the answer to all our problems. It was fucking incredible. Well, they got kicked out after two pre-m,
they were gonna be the answer to all our problems.
It's a new career.
And they got kicked out after two months.
And they also got hundreds and hundreds of them.
And the next two to after this is when they really
just started streamlining things.
Yeah, I think they decided that dealing with radio,
dealing with personalities like us on a daily basis
was too much trouble.
Let's put Ryan C. Cress on everywhere.. Yeah. And all markets all times the day. Well, you know, there's, I
get it. It's a business decision that that's is sound. But these radio, you know, there were,
and people like Ryan Seacrest and a couple other people were treated like kings. They were untouchable.
And Ryan Cure Seacrest has never said a controversial thing in his life. But there were plenty
of others that were saying all, you know, things akin to what Joe Rogan was saying.
Yeah.
And we're just never even got talked about.
And the corporations never had to take responsibility.
No, it never reached the level of outrage.
And they just kept on talking and still due to this day,
by the way, this is still going on
on a lot of these radio stations and streaming stations
and podcasts. Joe Rogan is not the worst of the worst. I don't know much about
Joe Rogan but I can guarantee you I have heard some other podcasts that are 10 times as
bad as Rogan or what Stern did and no one is talking about them. But you know got to
make your own choice. Yeah they're not getting paid $100 million.
And these fucking Yahoo's on radio, it's unbelievable.
How shitty.
Everybody except for the top of the top were treated.
The good news is they got paid on the way out the door.
The bad news is they'd end up in Pekipsi,
fucking, you're in the traffic.
First some, you know, North Pole station.
Radio was the worst business, the worst.
It was.
On television.
On television. On television.
Right?
The second you walk in the door and do these trailers,
you have a masseuse and a makeup and a makeup trailer.
Bap, bap, bap, bap, bap.
Everyone, parent makeup.
Everyone is treated like a queen or a king.
They're treated like talent, right?
These people are important to the production.
We better keep them fucking happy.
They gotta look good and act good on screen. Don't know one ruffle their feathers. The guy wants a, the guy wants a
fucking thong to put on. Go to fucking Victoria's Secret and get them all right. That's how it
is. In rabies. Oh yeah. It's like you got to pay five dollars a day for your own parking.
Yeah. You gotta pay for your own fucking parking.
It was just like, it was the absolute,
the drags of the drags.
And I don't know where that started, but it got me thinking.
This whole Joe wrote, got me.
Yeah, but now I was going to say, well, you know,
the radio world was not
known for their looks. Let's say, no, well, that's why it's radio.
For one. And you can kind of do whatever you wanted when the mic was off, which was a
lot. You're playing music half the time. I mean, why not dip into that blow from last
time?
Yeah. And I mean, the station manager.
The stories I heard about before we even got there. I mean, the stories from like the 70s
and 80s and radio. It was one gigantic party. And listen, I'm sure it was the same way
in television, but you're right. Radio, you're not on, you know, you don't have to, you
don't have to play to anybody. You just have to look, remember how to speak. And even
then it's likely you're going to get away with something. Why? I mean, I did a radio show from two in the morning to a four in the morning. It radio station even when we were there in the 2000s, even when we were there, but the crazy 80s and the crazy 90s, apparently it was like, yeah.
Why wouldn't you do a little cocaine? You have to show it, you know, I think the station manager cares. No, he just wants you to hit the logo and the weather on the 9s. That's all the fuck they care of. They've got knee thinking. There's got to be
some audio out there of some crazy discharge. Oh, I bet there is. Okay. And so I found some.
I found some audio of a couple of people quitting live on the air. Are you ready for this?
The first guy I want to introduce you to is probably the most insane radio dish, Jackie, I have ever had an opportunity to read about.
And I'm going to let you listen to how he got fired live one time.
He just kind of melted down, right?
Okay.
This is coyote, Calhoun.
Are you ready for this?
Coyote Calhoun.
Calhoun.
Let me tell you a little bit about him.
And in 1975, Bantam, who was also known as Coyote Calhoun, was hired by W.E.R.C.
in Birmingham, Alabama as a late night, as a nighttime top 40 screamer. That's what they
would call me if they had a podcast screamer. It's like, hey, what's going on? There's more to stick. Spin forward all the way.
You hit the post, they call it hitting the post,
you hit the post.
Nice.
Right?
When WERC nighttime jock Chris Fox, another person,
abruptly quit over a contract to speak,
contract to speak.
I want $10 a day.
And Birmingham, I was almost a contract to speak.
In 1974, the company flipped from AM to FM
and christened Coyote J Calhoun from 1975 to 1970. That's right. Coyote J was enormously popular
in Birmingham and consistently won the 12 plus audience because you know those 13 year olds.
on the 12 plus audience, because you know those 13 year olds. In one of his most controversial acts,
Coyote faked his own murder on air,
a stunt that led to police, paramedics, and firefighters
storming the building, expecting to find a knife-wielding murder.
This led to a five-day suspension.
The first of many that would be handed down to the
disc jockey as a Calhoun wrestled a live black bear before a packed audience at the
bout well auditorium in 1976. The fight abruptly ended after coyote hit the bear over
the head with a folding chair, annoying his handlers and the bear. When asked why he did it, Kaya, he replied,
he started it in 1979.
Okay, all right, you ready?
You want me a little bit of Kaya,
you know you got to hear this.
Oh yeah, Kaya, he's J.
I think this is 1983.
Is this 1983?
He left it that long.
1983, he did.
Well, I mean, he was the,
he was getting all those listeners 12 plus I never remember that
Being a no
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We're a sh** radio station.
Oh, that's very nice of you to say something I think you're gonna mind.
You have to, you cut, excuse me, because someone cut that, someone else cut this up and
so that it kind of flips back and forth and I don't own any of the rights to this music,
so please excuse me.
What is hell? Let's move. Let's see what I'm seeing.
It was my show.
I'm the one who put a hell of a lot.
It's a mind.
I give you a piece of my mind right now ladies and gentlemen.
I'm playing a boss that I'm going to be playing up Pink Floyd.
I'm going to play it up Death Road Jail.
We're not even playing any mountain.
Who?
Mountain shut up.
Oh man, you're going to war over mountain. Come on man.
We're not playing a pink boy. We're not playing a jet throw.
You lost me a jet throw tall bro. Of course you play jet throw tall.
Everybody plays jet throw tall. Jet throw tall.
He does look okay. He's very fast.
He's very fast. He's waiting till he calls the station manager.
That's what it gets good. He does the laser cooking. He's very fast-talking. Wait until he calls the station manager.
That's when it gets good.
So I'm going to be coming up a little bit more
so because I want to make it here.
And in those mines, you know, I can do it at once.
Let me continue and play.
Oh, for Bob!
There's a lot of Russian along time.
There's been a lot of time.
It's the rules.
It was heard on this radio station.
I'm going to remedy that tonight.
Wait, is it a gentleman?
Tonight's the night when all your Jethro toll dreams come true.
I'm gonna remedy that.
I'm playing the long version of Boston.
Please don't.
That please don't.
Uh.
I feel so good.
Oh, oh, I want to take myself into a hotel
or my feel so good about myself.
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It's not easy. So that's why he's putting on a 15 minute intro. So we're gonna have conversation with himself
See you on on 2.5 M, you know tonight I decided to do whatever I want
Well I'm because it's my show. I am the king of the city and sometimes you could follow It's so damn darn excuse me. I'm so sorry, you know, I am a butt head
I won the butt head award last night everybody put it and said it was 93 to 12. They want a coyote to be a butt head
I don't even understand what this guy is talking about
He doesn't have a great radio
I'm a great radio. That's me, Kaya.
That's me, you're a man.
I'm the king of city.
I'm the king of city.
I'm the king of everything.
I'm the king of everything.
I'm a butad.
Population 12,000.
I'm a butad.
I was a king of the butad.
By the way, let me show you a picture of Kaya.
And his current state.
Oh, that's exactly how I picked her down.
Yeah, that looks like every radio is brought to you.
Full strength.
Full strength.
Full strength.
Full strength. Full strength. Full strength. Full strength. Full strength. the old bang okay uh... dot com slash the commercial break
yeah that's uh...
that's a woman's way
that's the
into being a man
that is just all my god thank you for your support and i can guarantee you my
pledge to you is continued but had it this
through the entire year at nineteen eighty I won't let you down.
I'll be the biggest butthead you've ever seen.
And believe me, ladies and gentlemen,
I can do it.
Why?
Because I've had a lot of practice being a butthead.
I appreciate your support.
Oh my God, this is just so bad.
Radio's just so bad.
I can't continue to practice being a butthead.
I'm going to say butthead, butthead, butthead, three times
in a row, butthead.
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He's got his hair.
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He's got his hair.
He's got your hair.
He's got your hair.
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He's got your hair.
He's got your hair. He's got your hair. He's got your hair. He's got your hair. He's got your hair. We haven't heard that song enough, have we? Please everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm a top 40 screamer.
It's me, but I had King of Birmingham.
Woohoo!
King of the 12 plus market.
Hey kids, how about some more Jet Throw Tall?
That's because that's what's all the kids are into.
In 1998, Jet Throw Tall.
Breath of your take, how many times did we played that song in the past four years? Probably five thousand times. My point is my point is how many times we played
Pink Floyd off their brand new CD zero none. Well, you know, I played two or three cuts
off the Pink Floyd CD in the past three months. You know how I did it? I sneaked to the CD
in here and I played it without authority and without permission. Why? Because I knew
you wanted to hear it.
The CD has sold four million copies. We played nothing off it. That's a good business. Okay, so you
sneaked. Yeah, he sneaked. He also sneaked a new word in the English language.
Here's where I think, uh, listen, I get it. There is a, this is probably pretty popular in the 80s.
In the 90s, that radio disc jockeys feel like they have to change the culture of their
city by playing what they think is the best music.
No more Madonna.
We're playing Jethro tall.
Yeah, no more police.
We're gonna play, I'm gonna play my music.
It's like they have some mission to make sure that you hear the music
They want you to hear. It's not like Jethro tall or pink Floyd was any less popular than Madonna
You know what I'm saying? It's like these people these are all well-known bands. You're not fighting for guns and roses or
Muddhoney you're fighting for Jethro tall
I think I'm like guys
But I think you could tell he's coming on wound. He's like
Yeah, he's so sick. I've sneaked it. Yeah, he's sneaked in. Yeah, he's sneaked in.
He's sneaked in. I just sneaked in.
His decision isn't it. Oh, I can tell these people are smart. We hire a consultant to tell us,
hey, don't play that. It's all for me and copy. Someone might like it. Keep it off the station.
Painflies, my favorite band, I'm gonna remedy the fact we don't blame it paint Floyd right now ladies and gentlemen
It's a whole here behind me
Stand behind me that we have to change is all the chronic way and this completely
Fascist way this radio station is run. I can see a huge
Could you go and fascist 12 to 18 year olds outside the station?
Going Cal who Jay
Yeah, who Jay I'm going Cal Hoon J. Cal Hoon J.
Oh, who's last name, Coyote?
Coyote.
Coyote J, Cal Hoon.
That's what his name is.
Coyote J.
Coyote J.
Coyote J.
Change the music forever.
We got you.
You're our only home.
You left your wig in the car. He's so, he's just so convinced he's the savior of the world.
He's got a, I think that's a problem when you start talking into a microphone for a long
time by yourself.
Kind of like some of the guys and girls that we worked with at Clear Channel.
It's like when you have a one man band going on for a really long time and you don't hear
any feedback because you start believing your own bullshit yeah you're talking to yourself that's right
hey sneak it in I'm gonna tell them the truth I'm sneaking nuclear secrets into the WERC Birmingham's
best rocker I'm sure you agree you're trying to hear in the same old garbage down
I'm sure you agree you're trying to hear in the same old garbage down
So there is this
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where everyone is trying to be Howard Stern
or the morning super.
And what they do is they just play a lot of obnoxious sounds
that's in the background, like we do.
They play a lot of obnoxious sounds in the background,
but no one seems to know how to mix the sounds in.
So you can't even hear a fucking word this guy is saying
because it's so goddamn loud
Ladies and gentlemen, they were medications finally one or five. I want to do the minus I was saying is have a real requested dedication show and that one of these
loved ones where I just put people on the other requests
dumb socks.
Whatever you want to hear give me a call one hundred two three
nine five eighty eight or there are the number three three
one whatever you want to hear.
I'm gonna.
He didn't even say a full phone number.
He's like it was a three.
He's.
No, he's not.
I just hear that.
I want you to I want you to this is what I even went
back and listen to this.
We're not gonna do one of those hokey call-in shows
where he just requests all the dumb songs.
We're gonna have a written in request line.
Written in request line.
What do you call, call-
What do you know?
I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know.
What are you talking about there?
Your medications, why got you mean the cocaine?
Right, the written in request line doing this was before email.
So how, who's writing?
I remember writing radio stations.
Okay.
Because I was so, I was, I was actually entranced by a lot of these guys and girls in Chicago
and here in Atlanta, the good news for me was is that we had stations like 99x, right?
There wasn't a lot of this yelling and screaming. Uh, this guy in Birmingham is like he the coyote is the epitome of a silly disc chalky
right loud obnoxious yelling and screaming.
I'm gonna do some bullshit.
I'm glad you're free.
Why free you.
Why because I love you very much and then there's my show.
I'm gonna try to present a show.
It is my show.
I'm coyote J. in this my show. I'm gonna try to present a show for you know, it is my show
I'm Clio de J. It is my show
You don't hear enough pink Floyd or Jess Rolotall or Sandra Bernhard
And by the way in 1988, I mean
With a little bit of intelligence for now. I said the the same old garbage over and over and over. Oh, my hotline is ringing.
Here we go.
Well, it's a gentleman hotline is ringing.
Here we go.
The hotline is also known as the red phone.
And every studio had one, even when we worked
and I was on the radio, there was a red phone so to speak.
It was a phone that had a light on it.
And so they called it the hotline,
usually because the light was red and it would blink
It wasn't I wouldn't ring obviously because you're in a studio
But that meant that someone important was calling me a few people had that phone number and if it was going off
You better get off air and you better answer me. I bet this will be interesting. Let's add to the hotline in the air
See what I'm doing, man. Hello.
What the hell are you doing?
That's what I'm doing.
That's what I'm doing.
That's what I'm doing.
Now listen to Coyote.
Cower.
I mean, he doesn't back down, but listen to how scared you know he really is.
And by the way, this is not a stunt.
This actually happened.
I was a little suspicious.
And so I looked into it from multiple different angles and everyone apparently involved in the story says it's true.
Okay.
I'm playing.
I'm playing one of my favorite bands, Boston.
I'm playing Boston Steve.
A lot of Boston is what I'm doing.
Why?
Why?
Do I still have a job?
Do you want me to click my last paycheck? Why? Why, dude? Come on. You know why?
You've been ran into the station for two hours. Yeah, it's fascist. Yeah, you autocratic radio
station. You basically blown up the radio station with Boston and Jethro Tall. You can even pick cool bands.
The cool me air.
Ladies and gentlemen, Steve Russell, our program director of WCPU. Yes, Steve, we're on the air.
Give me up here and now.
You can hear coyote thinking.
It's gonna hear those gears like.
People. You can hear Coyote thinking. Yes, he is. It's gonna hear those gears, like, cuck, cuck, cuck, cuck's not. No. I'm not going to. No. No. I'm not going to do that. No.
Maybe anybody's voice cracks under pressure. They're scared. No. I can do that. Don't hurt me. Thank you
off the air. Then you'll give me a bad time. Why don't you just tell the people since he's He's coming down there. He's like, oh, my job again.
Third time this year.
Now, listen, he gets so nervous.
Let's just listen what happens next.
Okay.
You know that this, he knows what's going on now.
He knows how much the guys coming down to the station.
The guys coming down to the station.
Yeah.
Some middle of the night.
The guys coming down to the station.
Well, let's take a while, ladies and gentlemen, let's, uh, let's not let that run our party. Let's, uh, let's say I want ladies gentlemen. Let's let's not let that run our party. Let's let's play some more Boston
You're gonna go
On that Yeah, go go big on that. You're big, that's right.
We're gonna go out on something.
Don't go out on pasta.
Oh my god.
That's like a guy in a rock stage would be in like,
well, I'm bound to get fired.
Let's play some pop variety.
Yeah.
Oh.
Yeah
See what I'll do FM there you go. It is a gentleman. They love me. They're behind me week We can't always play the same thing every night. The station is run by fascist communist socialistic programming fat heads
It's at all catch 22. We play a lot of garbage
We're gonna try to bounce the garbage from now on on my show so it was the blank commercial, too. Let's do that
You're not
Okay, no for that it'll really feel like playing commercials the monorail. I'm feeling hot
I'm really worked out by him. I'm a little loose. Yeah, I'm seeing double. I'm gonna faint because I think I'm gonna
faint because of all that cocaine and my wife just called me. She's leaving. Yeah.
The kids are all packed up and ready to go. I gotta get out of here quick. I gotta get
out of here quick. So I'm gonna play another Boston song. You might not hear from me for a while.
I'll be in Mexico.
When you stop playing the commercials,
now you're really fucked.
Yeah, because now there's a money maker.
That's right.
Well, what you really should do,
before I continue with Call Steve Russell back,
because I really don't want him to be angry at me,
he is after all the pro grand director,
and he did sound a little missed,
a little paved.
Sometimes I take these things seriously.
So I'm breaking the format for one hour.
Big deal.
Wait, he's gotta convince him.
Say, big deal.
So I told you to go fuck your stuff.
Yeah.
Yes, Steve.
That would not be.
Yeah, I told you to go fuck yourself
and add sex with your oldest daughter.
Big deal.
I bet this guy was a real joyride to talk to all fair.
Hey, it's me, Kel.
Why can't we play more Boston?
He's probably four foot seven.
He's running around.
We need more Boston.
Yeah.
Oh, that's like an alternative station
in the early 2000s going, we need more R&M.
The ratings right now, so we fight for them.
Let me call them.
Hahaha!
Hahaha!
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm fine.
We just call Steve and make sure that he's not egg.
I'm also like, okay.
Let me call Steve and make sure he's not egg-ray.
I should have paced myself with egg-ball.
Yeah.
That way I'd have a little left.
Hahaha.
I'm coming down hard guys.
Hello.
Hello, who's this?
It's Diana.
Janice, ladies and gentlemen, the lovely wife of Mr. Steve Russell.
Janice.
Hello.
Hello, Janice, how are you?
I'm fine, I'm fine.
Thank you, you're fine.
You know that?
Steve's got his gun.
He's all the way to home.
I'm bringing the owner an a station manager.
You're fired.
You're fired.
Hey, I'm fine.
How are you, you're fired.
You still have an asexual problem.
Now what I'm.
What?
You still have an asexual problem.
Dude, you are.
You're taking the whole deal. Yeah, you're taking the whole hole deep you can't really expect to hold your job after this really
He's he has her if he was if he was still having that sexual problem. Oh, man. Yeah
Well, it was nice to know you
Are you big to stay please? I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm Yeah, you better lock the studio door Where is it?
He's coming here
Wait, he's coming here. Where did you think he was going after you tell him to go fuck yourself and I got the phone
Oh my god, now he's on his way to the library
Yeah, pick up the new grocery store. He's writing novel
his way to the library. Pick up the new grocery store. He's a frightened novel.
Okay, well, I'll talk to him when he gets here then, okay? Okay, nice talking to you.
Bye, Janice. Bye, Janice.
I'll call you from Jay. Yeah.
He can't think of anything to say. No.
See why not.
See why not.
See why not.
Let me play that.
Let me play the stage 90.
Let me play the bumper.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's so scared.
You can hear it.
Okay.
I want to play here.
Let's play some mobton.
He should enjoy this drop.
Yeah. I think she's able to enjoy some mobton. You know,. Let's play some mountains. You should enjoy this drop again. Ah.
I think she's able to enjoy some mountains.
You know, we don't play this either.
Here's some mountains, Steve.
Ah.
Ah.
Ah.
Ah.
This is so big.
Ah.
This is so big.
This is so big.
Ah.
Ah.
Ah.
Coyote chicken.
Oh.
That was another favorite thing at the radio stations in the 80s was to take popular songs and put the station liners on top of them.
Kayao did jakelouon! Come and laugh at you!
So stupid. That's do you remember that? But don't worry, radio's not dead, guys. I can hear the projections meeting right now,
Nick, tomorrow morning.
Radio stations all across the country.
They say radio's dead, but we're only down 33% week over week.
We still get 99.9% of people all around the world
to listen to us at least once a week.
That's because your fucking car turns it on every time you turn it on are you in the dentist?
The Calhoun
He's in trouble here
He Coyote
Coyote J
One on two FM, Alex Papaloni Leslie Weston Mountain. We don't play any mountain
You believe that as big as that was here's the thing Coyote You should've gone and worked for a top 40 station if you didn't want to play top 40
Right dumb dumb. Yeah, or you should have gone into station programming. Yeah station programming
That's right then you could have programmed what you wanted to hear but you're bad at that and that's why you're on air
Lot of followers and feelings of party of fine
Upstanding gentlemen that I knew personally and I believe it was shot to death at a topless night club
So see how much you guys knew each other. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was if one of my friends was shot to death at a topless night club
I would know it for a fact. I know the date and time
I'd be sure of it
We lost. I'm pretty lost.
We lost Bill it.
239.
Yeah, that's 2.39 on the Tuesday.
Yeah, it's a top of a club.
He was beheaded by an elephant kick
in downtown Chicago.
I think.
I think.
I can't remember.
Is he that or is he that?
He's like, was that an elephant kick or a donkey kick? Can't remember. I think I remember. Was he that? I don't need why was that an elephant kicker donkey kicker remember? I mean listen.
I haven't got to that age where a lot of my friends are died, but I'm pretty sure
of someone who shot dead in a tub with nightclub. What was he doing?
They're running out on lamp dances.
No, I'm not going to pay. But we should play some mountain. Because that
in any claps. Great news. Great news. Guy from mountains did shot. From the torso up.
It is not even a good club. It's like two people talking. Mississippi Crew is a number one record in 1970.
Do we play it?
It's 1988.
Yeah, it is.
1988, Calhoun.
1988, it's 20 years later.
Pearl Jambs alive is not playing on our tab 40 station.
It's now on the Golden Old East station.
No, we don't. You know, all the records
we don't play, you know, by Led Zeppelin, I play by Led Zeppelin, stairway to heaven. That's
it. That is all we play by Led Zeppelin. That's, he's got a 747 in his voice sometimes.
And then it sounds like he's revving a little scooter.
Like, he's got like a lawnmower engine on other times.
Zeppelin.
You know what we play by REM?
One song, the one I love.
They had seven albums out.
We play one song and you know why this happens?
It's really not Steve Russell's fault.
I know he's driving to the station, probably listening to me.
I hope you are.
I think you are
He's got leopard skin boxer briefs on
Remember Eddie in a Christmas vacation when he's he's letting out the shitter. That's how I imagine Steven
Steven's on the way and he is listening. Yes, that's right and Calvin's trying to talk them off the ledge Yeah, it's not your fault
It's not your fault. You're impotent
I told your wife. It's not your fault
I'm listening to what I'm saying right now. They're listening
It's not your fault. Sorry, listen, into what I'm saying right now,
they're listening closely, Steve.
I don't hold you responsible for this.
I know you're just a victim of this machinery,
which we call radio.
We're all victimized by this monster.
We have a good, like, what are you?
I know.
He's ruminating.
Yeah.
The radio, why?
It's not a fucking internment camp. It's radio. Come. Yeah. The radio. I fucking internment at camp.
It's radio.
Dude, come on.
Get it together. play and dictates to you what you're gonna hear and he's in Virginia. Here's the music sheet right here. Look we got we got
Madonna, Prince, you, Louis, sticks, oh, how adventurous.
You chose to work here, bro. Yeah. I mean, if you have a problem, take it all fair. You have a conversation with Steve
off air. You got to do this on air. He hates the console.
I know.
Everybody hates the console.
Everybody hates the console.
Because it's true.
The console does get paid more than anybody on air.
And he does hand a machine to paper
and tells him what to play based on research and science.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or based on how much money the record company gave.
Right.
How adventurous.
But Steve is on his way to the station.
What I'm going to do is I'm going'm gonna leave the microphone on because when Steve gets here
I want him to stay this position. I want a man to man to sit down on the chair and tell everybody
Why am I not?
I'm not leaving the mic
Coyote E-man
I want to seek Calahoon versus Mono
I want to see what he has to say from so though I totally understand is not his fault.
Let's have a let's have a let's have a heart to heart conversation, Steve.
About what we can do to play more Boston.
I know it's 1988, but do you know how many records Elvis Presley sold in 1956?
Millions.
We should have loved me tender on a lobe.
Do this Jeffries boob and why we follow these music sheets and have no leeway what to do.
I'll tell you something. I gotta follow this music sheet, but if the ratings come back
and my ratings, my book is bad, you know who's gonna get fired? No, not Mr. Jeffries.
Not Mr. Russell. Mr. Caldwell will be fired.
Do you know why?
It's because if you're playing all of the same music
throughout the day, then it stands to reason
that the ratings should have some baseline.
If you're playing all top 40,
that it's not like people are gonna go away
because they're listening to the music they like.
It's because they're listening to the DJ,
they dislike that vibe, the diss-jocke.
But I mean, it is true.
Like, diss-jockeys do get, you know, they do take the bear,
they bear the brunt of bad ratings
when it nine times out of 10, it's probably not their fault.
But in this case, I can safely say,
you're an asshole.
Yeah, that's Coyote, he's a lot better.
Look at him, look at him.
Poor guy.
So I should have some input into my show
and you should have some input.
You wanna hear something, I should be able to play it.
So when Steve gets to live the mic on,
and when he gets to, I'll ask him,
well why we put up with this, we don't want to do. We've been a radio 10 to 15 years. We don't need
management to tell us what to do, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, you don't.
Because this is how you act when management. Yeah. Yeah.
Clearly you're not a handle yourself. Yeah, he could run that
He shut me mic off ladies and gentlemen
Director of WCBQ and my friend Steve Russell. Hello my friend
I'm just gonna raise my friend my dear friend soon to be godfather of my children
The guy I listed in my will, you get my car. Shut the mic off. Back off. They're making it worse. Shut the mic off. The mic stays on.
Cut the mic off or you're going. I cannot believe that this is a big damn deal. He's so scared.
I can not believe this is a big damn deal. I called your wife. I told you
what you're in for this. What's the big fucking deal? I called you a fashion. I called you
a fashion, but then I said, I know it's not your fault. Let's have a mono-eaf fox. I don't
know what the fuck your name is. Cut the mic off now. Mic stays on, I'm sorry. Cut the mic off.
If you come close to the mic, I...
Back off, Russell!
I got one of you!
Cut the mic off!
Let's go!
The mic is off!
Mic stays on!
Get it off!
You're mic is on!
I'm going through it!
Oh, shut up!
Shut up!
Are you alright?
Cut the mic off!
Are you playing this a 3? No! No, the mic stays on! Cut the mic off now! Oh Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh, she's settling.
And, Gaiote leaves forever and seen.
That's so good.
I love it.
Oh my god.
Yeah.
Listen, radio is usually not that exciting, folks.
Yeah.
Most of this, Joggy, stay in line, a computer programs, everything everything they talk in and out and I'm not knocking radio DJs
No, I wanted to be one. I yeah, I wanted to be one. I wasn't yeah, I didn't make the grade
They put me on a two in the morning on a station of reached well hundred people
That was it poor coyote. So the police showed up. Uh-huh. They made sure everything was okay. They separated the two
So the police showed up. Uh-huh.
They made sure everything was okay.
They separated the two.
Coyote took his walking papers and he went home.
I can't understand.
I can't believe it's a big damn deal.
I can't believe you're down here, Steve.
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