The Cryptid Factor - #099 The X Issue

Episode Date: October 3, 2024

99!! At LAST!! it's the penultimate to the ultimate 100 issue - and as per usual it's full of epic craziness. In here the AI bot team wreak havoc in the background producing fake news, there's Kings in UFOs, bees in showers, secret sightings of an old Oasis, copyright threats from Bono and 99 bottles of Bigfoot casts on the wall. Also get ready for a super exciting revival of the age old segment 'Expedition Update' with the team from the hit TV show Expedition X. Jessica and Phil fill us in on their expedition to Loch Ness - as well as deal out some heart felt appreciation for the Cryptid Factor team's Nessie inspiration.Enjoy! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Now just to take you through why I did that piece, I realized it was episode 99. You know, just suddenly coming on air and realizing the tune was playing and I'm thinking, I haven't written anything down here to kick things off. 99. The first thing I thought of was the song 99 Red Balloons. Oh, Red Balloons, of course. Pier Luft Balloons. Yeah, that's right. And so I actually pulled up the lyrics on that and I was going to do the first verse of that. But then I thought, oh, hang on, that's actually quite good.

And it's not mine. And I might get copywritten, you know, there might be some law issues there. Yeah. Have you seen the first lyrics on that? It says, you and I in a little toy shop, buy a bag of balloons with the money we've got, set them free at the break of dawn till one by one they are gone. Back at base. Gone?

Yeah, I'm trying to rhyme it. Back at base, bugs in the software, flash the message, something's out there. What? Floating in the summer sky, 99 red balloons go by. So is it like a false UFO sighting where they release the balloons into the sky and then the military blaze goes, oh, we've got some anomalies on the radar. That's what it sounds like. I think it's something to do with war, actually. Yeah, it's got a meaning to the song that doesn't quite fit the lyric. I can't remember what it was there now.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah. 99, 99 bottles of beer. Are there any other 99s? 99 problems, but a Bigfoot ain't one? Oh, that would have done- That would have been a good one. You guys, probably when I was doing 99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall, you probably thought, what's happening here?

Did you get it? I didn't actually know. No, I knew Dan wouldn't get it. The one thing that I loved is that you avoided singing the song for copyright reasons and then read out the lyrics. Yeah. So there was still copyright problems, I think. So...

I think you can read them out. Oh, you can. But you can't sort of sing them without mentioning what you're doing beforehand. Ha ha ha ha. Yeah, going back to this song, guys. Verse three is 99 nights of the year ride super high tech jet fighters.

Everyone's a superhero. Everyone's a superhero. Everyone's a captain Kirk with orders to identify to clarify and classify scramble in the summer sky. 99 red balloons go by as 99 red balloons go by. Anyway, what a song. Tune. By Nina back in the day. It was a big one. 99 Luftballoons. Yeah. That's such a great song. Yeah. Tune. Oh, here it is here guys It was a big one, 99 Luftballoons. Yeah, that's such a great song. Yeah, tune. Oh, here it is here guys, just a quick one. The original German anti-war anthem.

This just in. Ha ha ha! Now I just want to hear the song to be quite honest. Can you just sing a little bit of it please? Just a little bit. I promise I'll pay the copyright fines. No, no, no, no just a little bit. I promise I'll pay the copyright fines. No. No, no, no, no, no.

I'm probably going to get fined for the 99 Bottles of Beer song. Yeah. I bet someone has copyright on that. I'll probably get a call. Hey, listen, mate, we hear that 99 Bottles of Beer take you, dude, I know you tried to hide it with the Sasquatch cast. Are you imagining there's some Bigfoot casts on the wall, are you? You're trying to tell us you found 99 Bigfoots? Absolute bullshit.

It's hard enough to get 99 bottles of beer, let alone Bigfoot casts. Who are you? I'm the guy that did get the 99 bottles of beer up, okay? It's in the Guinness Book of Records. You can't come in here and make a mockery of my accomplishments. God. You know what this all amounts to? I'll tell you what. What? 99 bloody problems.

Oh yes! Yeah, but Bigfoot's not one of them! But a podcast ain't one, because look at us go. 99 episodes, guys, and it's only taken us about 15 years to get here. It's really been arduous. Yeah. I've only been on about 20 of them. That's how long it's taken. But what a great 20 it's been.

Oh, it's been wonderful. But the great news is, is that we definitely know that we are going to get to 100 episodes because shock horror, we've already recorded the 100th episode. Wow. Isn't that a true Cryptid Factor fashion? Yeah. Recording episode 99 after recording episode 100 and to be fair, she recording episode

100, 101, 2, 3 and four in the live shows up in Edinburgh. So effectively this is episode 105, but it's episode 99. Oh man. And this is what you get for not being a Patreon member. Exactly. Come on guys, join. For all of those wonderful cryptid Knights in the Patreon, they've been up to speed.

They've known that we've just gotten fresh back from an amazing tour in Edinburgh. Five nights sold out the Edinburgh Fringe Festival earlier in August. And then episode 100 that we recorded live in London, all three of us on stage for the first time. It was so much fun. Guys, I don't know if I've told you, it was literally the time of my life hanging out with you guys in Edinburgh. Oh, we could see it.

We could see it with you. We could see it. I mean you really pulled out all the stops I didn't hide it did I now you built desks out of cardboard? You know you walked across the streets with a giant television on your back You had so much duct tape hanging off you and just to see you with the fans like autographs you thought you're Bono. I was. Not Bono, Bono. Bono. I was Bono.

I was Bono. Were you avoiding copyright infringement there? Yeah, I've had that guy already call me once. Oh I did a piece about One Tree Hill and he gave me a call. He goes hang on mate, that's Bono to, unless you want to give me another couple of bucks. Well, it is going to be an awesome episode today, leading into the live show episode 100, because today I'm happy to announce that we have

an actual expedition update from an actual bunch of people who have been on an expedition and are good friends of yours, Ree Reese. Do you want to talk us through what we got later in the episode? It's a little tease. Yeah yeah it's a fun episode this one. We have some guests we're talking to people that aren't us so good luck to them. Expedition X which is a really cool paranormal adventure show, Amazon Discovery. And that of course is with Josh Gates, who's famous for Expedition Unknown and all his other expedition shows he's done before them. A real expeditionist is our Josh. He sends these two off on adventures. It just so happens that they were right up to speed with our news of

Nessie, thanks to the Chee Kelly photographs and Buttons amazing technical rendering. Once that news got out, I got contacted back in the day to go on Expedition X. I couldn't make it because the times didn't work out for me. So I got to go on the actual TV show though and met these two, and Heather they went off on their expedition to Loch Ness actually had some success which we will discuss a little bit later blew me away the experiences that they had on the loch so yeah we're going to have a chat to them very exciting isn't it amazing like this is one of the things that we got very excited about in the early days the idea of collaborating with Chi and with Steve over these photos is where would this stuff lead to in the weird ways that we can't predict and one of them is.

Is that it led to this episode to their actual expedition they were looking specifically at cheese photos and as you say we're gonna find out what they discovered while they're out there that's a butterfly effect off the back of. Our involvement so it's it's very cool it just continues. I want to mention a quick expedition that buttons went on post our Edinburgh and London adventure which is he disappeared to Ibiza. What come on I can spill the beans. Come on. Okay. Spill the beans. Spill the beans. These are the secrets we're supposed to not share. Was that a secret? I knew that you went into hiding. I didn't know that bit was a secret.

No. Rees knows this. I went over to Ibiza because I was over there and had a few days spare. And it was Taika's birthday. And so I went over to Ibithyn. I've been too scared to tell Reece this information because I know he will be very disappointed with me. Come on, spit it out. What happened? I can't. What didn't happen? I wasn't bringing this up for this bit of the detail. This was a genuine secret that Buttsons told me before we started recording because he was so nervous you would be angry about it.

Oh God, what's he done? You want to talk to me off-air, do you? Yeah, I think so. Okay. He had an opportunity to chat to someone and instead of chatting to them, he looked at them and thought, hey, they look just like that person and then left it at that as opposed to realizing it was that person. Oh no. Oh god. And that person, Buttons, was who?

Well, we'll give you a clue. Put your sunglasses back on and go... Alright, alright, alright. Alright lad. Oh no. No, it's not the guy from the Verve. No, even worse. Even worse.

It's not one of the Gallagher's. Well, yeah. Is it? It was Noel Gallagher. Oh my god. Walked past me. No. And I thought, that looks like It was Noel Gallagher. Oh my god. Walked past me. No. And I thought, that looks like an old Noel Gallagher.

And then lifted it there. Oh god. An old Noel Gallagher. How dare you? You know, none of us are getting any younger. Of course. I know. I know.

I just had in my head the young. Oh, what a fool. I know. But that was the thing. And then it was only like a few days later that they announced that they're getting back together. Oh, OK. And I just walked straight past them.

Maybe you actually said something to Noel that made him go, do you know what? I will patch things up with Liam. Maybe you did have some kind of effect. Yeah. And changed the course of history. Because you don't remember, Buttons doesn't remember that he spent half the evening talking

to Sal Mahajek. He has no memory of that until he was told later. The only reason I know that is because my dad told me because Buttons and my dad have been chatting about parties. This isn't even through Buttons that I've learned this. Here's the thing. I didn't bring this up for the Noel Gallagher thing, so that's on you, Buttons, for releasing that. Wow.

I'm so disappointed. I knew you would be. Wow. I'm so disappointed. I knew you would be. I knew you would be. I noticed something amazing. Someone posted a photo on Twitter of Taika and his wife Rita Ora. It's a black and white photo.

And I noticed something very interesting in the photo, which is that Taika was wearing quite a famous t-shirt in the world of the Cryptid Factor because it was the Spice Girls as mermaids. Oh yes. Did you give away? I saw that. What is the story there? Well I just thought it's a great birthday present for him.

It is to have legendary status. I've kept it for a number of years and kept it good but I thought giving it to him continues the legend in a much bigger way and plus he looks much better in it than me. Dude, you're shitting all your best stuff everywhere. You lost your hat at Loch Ness. I did! I gave it to Steve Faltham at Loch Ness. That hat looked better on him as well. Now you've lost the only decent t-shirt you've got with the Spice Girls as mermaids on it. It was iconic. That's the first t-shirt I met you in. Wow. Maybe you're rubbing off the right way.

You're leaving a little bit of buttons behind and people are picking that up and it's going to make their lives better. Maybe you did brush across Noel Gallagher and he suddenly thought, oh, you know what? I'm going to patch things up with my brother. Maybe just your presence was enough for that. You know, that's a positive way to look at it. You haven't lost anything else. Hey, Noel might have your jandals or something.

That's what made him get back together and he put my special jeans on. Yeah. That's what it was. That's what made him. He's like, oh, this is too much. I'm feeling very special. I feel very silly for not realizing

that I almost met one of my heroes. Well, particularly with right now and you've got a whole bunch of guitars behind you. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. I'm just so terrible with famous people. I didn't even realize I was talking to Selma Hayek.

Wow, that blows me away. How can you not recognize her? She's iconic as well. Who else was at this party that you didn't recognize? I have no idea. There all right it's for the best it's for the famous people prefer not for other people to make a fuss about them and and just treat them regular no well that's true yeah all right well after that vitriol I think it's time for everyone's favourite famous segment.

It's Weekly World Weird News. Crazy, freaky, watch out. Well I've got an article that none of you guys will have, I can almost guarantee it. Oh yeah. Okay. My headline is, AI tries to fool newscaster into delivering fake news. Oh, I love that. What's so hidden about that?

We'll get to it. OK, you're smiling. I can see. I'm just saying none of you would have read that news. OK, yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you guys got? I got new documentary, Alleges that King Charles in the 1970s piloted an experimental UFO. What? Get out of town. No.

It's very interesting. Wow. Yeah, and this documentary sounds exciting. OK. I like that. Well, I've got a classic Derby one here. Man stung 160 times as wasps swarm follow him into his house and even into his shower. That's amazing. swarm, follow him into his house and even into his shower.

Yeah. They can't get enough of them. Oh my God. They even got through the Crypto Factor shower curtain. Didn't they? That's amazing. Wow. I was going to save that bit to the article, but you've leaked that one. Oh God.

Sorry. They're iconic, those shower curtains. When is someone going to come to one of our gigs cosplaying as the shower curtain? Like have a shower curtain. You know what I mean? Someone must have one. Oh, that's Danny LaRusso in Karate Kid, isn't it? When he goes to the fancy dress party, the Halloween party, he goes as a shower. Yes.

That's what I'm talking about. Oh, it does too! Yes. Yeah, that's such a cool dress up. And he brings Elizabeth's shoe inside, he hides her. Ah, that was great. Let's do that. That's so good. Alright, Buttons, what's the big secret?

Okay. Is it you? Did you create the AI? That's not... Did you try and seed it? Yeah, here we go. Okay. It's gotta be his own news, cause he reckons we don't have it. Okay, well then you guys definitely don't happen

because the newscaster is indeed me. Hey! Well spotted. Dan called it, Dan called it. You can't pull a Shriver twist in front of Shriver. Ha ha ha, he started doing your stuff now. The Shriver on Veil. The Shriver reveal.

Yeah, that's right, the Shriver on Veil. Well, the only reason I actually have got this news article or want to share this news article is because it's really important to identify this whole fake news thing because I almost got sucked it in. I was like, early this morning, I was awake quite early and I was like, you know what I've never done? I've never used chat GPT as a research tool to find weekly world weird news. And I thought, well, I'll try it.

And so I put in, this is my actual search term, hi, I said hi to ChatGPT because you got to be nice. Oh, and that's nice. Hi, I'm Buttons from the podcast, The Cryptid Factor. Could you suggest some weekly world weird news for me? I said, sure. Here are some fun and quirky news articles that might fit perfectly into your podcast, The Cryptid Factor.

There's everything from mysterious blob discovered in deep oceans, residents report giant mothman sightings in small Midwest town. I'm like, this is amazing. What? This is crazy. Bigfoot spotted on a remote Alaskan glacier. The one that really got me, there was one down here which was, government declassifies files

on project cryptid. What are they hiding? It says recently discovered documents reveal a secret government project focused on cryptid research. What did they find and why was it kept under wraps for so long? It says here, these should give you plenty of material for some intriguing discussions on your show.

And it was like, damn straight they will. Project Cryptid. It's incredible. And I said, give me more information about that story about the government research. And it said, sure. Here's more detail. It goes into insane detail. Let's talk about these government documents about this Project Cryptid that they were

trying to find cryptids in the 1950s, which could have been spurred by a mix of Cold War paranoia, but also public fascination with cryptids was growing. It goes on and on and on. There's field investigations, alleged encounters, cover-ups and disinformation. I asked the one simple thing, what is the source of this article? It says, the story about Project Cryptid is a fictional concept I created based on the idea of government secrecy and cryptid research tailored to fit the tone and style of your podcast. It's not based on a real article or actual declissified documents, but it's designed

to be a compelling and imaginative scenario that could spark great discussion on your show. Wow. Wow. And I'm like, you can't do that to me. That's like I just caught it at the last minute. But then I suddenly realized it being AI knows more than me and it's obviously gone back and scoured all of our news articles and realized most of them are probably made up anyways. Yeah, yeah.

It's probably, it's going right. But I said, any of these articles you suggested real? I said, no, the news stories I suggested earlier, I've just made up. What? I know. Wow. So there you go guys. It's a little warning.

I wonder, has it gone back, you know, because we did an episode where we use chat GPT to write a Cryptid Factor movie script. I wonder if it's gone back and seen that somewhere and gone, oh, they want more of this bullshit, do they? Here we go. The AI's gone, oh yeah, we've got Cryptid Factor banging on at us again. What did we do last time? Oh yeah, we got some sort of Indiana Jones thing. They're into mystical shit. Oh, can you bring that out again? Oh, you better change it.

Change it a bit so he thinks it's news. He wants news. Does he want news? Oh yeah. Make it up. He won't know, especially that dopey one. My friend, Leevin Skira, he's a science communicator. He says, we know it's algorithm teaching itself with an AI,

but we don't actually know what's doing it. We don't know what's in it. I think what you just did is what's happening in there. It's all these systems and then it's actually just a group of people just going, oh, that guy again. Yeah. What a muppet. I'm going to do a sketch on stage of a whole bunch of like computer people that are basically AI and they're just chatting to each other about what the humans want. Have a look back through the files.

You've got the whole internet there for you, mate. Why am I out to do it on my own? I'm the front person. You do all of that. Oh, can I have a hand? What's Rachel doing? I'm doing makeup tutorials. Don't buddy look at me.

I have no idea what I'm doing here. It's a practical thing. I'm cooking at colors and shit like that. And Rivwild and various things. Shit back in the day. Elizabeth R10. Or RR-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R- Come on! Give him the old shit that we gave last time. Yeah, but I'm still working on the make-up, so don't look at me. I've got 50,000 girls here who think I'm talking the truth. That's amazing.

Well, it's actually, I think, quite true because the way it started talking to me was pretty much like exactly one of those characters. I was quite surprised. So was he doing a little bit of padding? Yeah. I was waiting. I was like, oh, can I get a bit more information off you? Because then he's looking back at the guy, hey, it's that Leon guy again. I'm going to have to do some padding with him. Because just start looking.

Start looking. Made up stuff will be fine. But I'll get a bit more details. What sort of time zone are we looking at here? Well, how far do you want to go back? Oh, you know, the 1950s. 1950s. 1950s. How long have we go back? Oh, you know, the 1950s. 1950s. 1950s. How long have we got here?

If we don't hurry up, the theme song's on. Okay, we've literally got as long as the theme song. Nigel! No, Nigel's too busy. He's tried to write a little lyric for Reist for the opening poem. He's forgotten to write something for the opening poem. He's going, just give him 99 Luft Balloons. Just give him that. I tried to give him 99 Luft Balloons.

He's not happy with it. He's so thick he thinks it's a copyright. I'm going to give him the 99 bottles of beer. Oh, that'll be good. He can do a Bigfoot cast to it. There you go, mate. How come you keep getting Nigel the AI? He's got good stuff for you. I want you keep getting Nigel the AI? He's got good stuff for you.

I want to ask for Nigel the AI. He gives you good shit. No, I've got one of the best guys. Oh, it's not fair. You can see, though, how, like, if I hadn't have asked that one question, what is the source of this, and made it reveal that it was all made up, I would have easily come on today and gone,

guys, did you hear about Project Crypto? Yeah. It goes on the podcast, and then people write about it. And then before you know it, it's a fact. Yeah. Well, the scary thing about this is that I feel like this is where we're heading. That sort of blurry boundary between what's real

and what isn't. And AI is only going to help with the fake shit, because it can, and it enjoys doing it it and it knows that we're so susceptible, we're so gullible as humans that we just believe what we're told and that's quite scary thinking that. Yeah. I wanted to believe it. Well, that sounds too good, yeah. The philosophy that I have with research, which I learned from my years at QI, is if it sounds too good to be true,

you definitely need to double check it. If you find yourself just wanting to believe it off the back of the excitingness of it, then yeah, always double check it. Yeah. That's sort of in the realms of like Reece Darby discovers Loch Ness monster. That might be too good to be true. But even humans, like years ago on Wikipedia, there was an article about the radio show

I created called Museum of Curiosity and there was a line in the Wikipedia where it said the pilot was called the Professor of Curiosity, I think, something like that. And I changed it because I knew what the real title was, which was a different title. And the person changed it back on the Wikipedia page. I said, oh, hey, sorry, I'm the creator of the show. Yeah. This is what it was originally called. I was just making this accurate. And he said, where's your source? And I said, well, I am the source.

It's my show. I am the source. I created it. I created this. And he said, well, you don't have a source, but this does have a source. So that's why that's there. And I looked at the source and the source was from an article that this guy had written on his own blog. So he was sourcing himself as a legit source. It's crazy. You get into a loop of information that becomes fake and real at the same time because there's a source.

Wow. That prick was self-sourcing. Yeah. Self-sourcing mate. Self-sourcing. Self-sourcing. Okay. That needs to become a meme.

Are you self-sourcing mate? Are you one of those upside down cakes? Yeah. You're doing an upside down cake, are you? Yeah. What's an upside down cake? Those cakes, you pull the thing off and all the sauce is at the bottom. And then you put it on a plate and you lift the thing off

and all the sauce goes down the cake. Self-sourcing. I haven't seen that, but that sounds cool. I know, I've self-sourced that. I don't know, I should double check that fact. I think I've self-sourced. Well, look, Dan is the biggest self-saucer. With all his facts that he just pulls out of his ass

now and again, and he's like, yeah, I'm just self-sourcing. And I know that. Well, there you go. Chocolate self-sourcing pudding recipes. I'll put that up on the Patreon. That's the sort of interesting sort of content you can get on the Patreon. Oh, good.

Come and join now. So that's your article done. We've got two more to go and an expedition update. That's right. Should I do mine? King Charles? Yeah, go on then. All right. Here I do mine? King Charles? Yeah, go on then. All right. Here's the article.

King Charles once flew a UFO. This is according to a new show on Nub TV. The host is called Mark Christopher Lee, and he has called on the British monarchy to push a disclosure regarding alien spacecraft. He mentions a lot of stuff, which is stuff we've covered the podcast and you know I wrote up in my book about Prince Philip and his love of ufology and the fact that he was a subscriber to a flying saucer review magazine and so. It sounds like a really cool doc in that respect but it says that according to a former colleague, But it says that according to a former colleague, King Charles also supposedly, when he was living in Canada during 1975 in a place called Sandy Point, was working on a thing called Project Serpico.

The project was set up to investigate new forms of transport and apparently the technology that was used for that was sourced by stuff that they found after World War Two from the Germans who had tried to develop their own UFO after having gained access to a crashed UFO. This is all the background to the story. So supposedly while he was stationed in Sandy Point, Charles actually flew one of these crafts. Oh, wow. A small UFO type vehicle. It looked like a version of the Avrocar, which was a car that looked like a UFO. I don't know if you remember seeing that. It's like a version of the Avrocar, which was a car that looked like a UFO. I don't know if you remember seeing that. It's worth a Google. The craft was supposedly one

that had three pilots, so there were three domes that were all encased with heat sensitive glass to protect the pilots from the magnetic effects that were given off by the larger craft that would be controlling their flight. So I suppose there was a sort of guiding plane that was helping for it to stay in the air as part of the debut of its technology, so they didn't quite know how it worked. The craft supposedly gave off a blue ionic flame and was able to submerse itself as well into water. Oh, wow. So yeah, this is a doc that's coming.

It's just such great stories. Just quickly, what was that project that Charles was involved in in Canada? Serpico, Project Serpico. Project Serpico, I think that was right around the same time as Project Cryptid was happening in the States where they had secretly government planning to try and... Can you get off the AI please?

...a house! Are you sure? You don't have Nigel working on your articles, do you Dan? This whole documentary has been made by Barry. Well it keeps going on about Prince Philip and it does mention that he died aged 99. Ohhhh! Here we go. 99 pop it 99. Oh, here we go. So another 99 pop it up. Freaks of Nigel. That does.

That's a little bit of a glitch that he's just been working on today. He'll be stuck on that 99 buzz. What age should I put? 99? What's the chances though of them putting a King as a test pilot in the 1970s? I've just looked up the Avro car. It is your classic UFO.

It's cool. It's beautiful. It's amazing. Like a big centrifugal vertical takeoff aircraft. It is so UFO. It's crazy. Can you share screen it so Reese can see it? Yeah.

Yeah, here we go. Look at this, Reese. Look at that. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah. How good is that? I love it. It looks very 70s wow. Oh yeah. How good is that? I love it. It looks very 70s.

So he test drove that, did he? I can't imagine them chucking them in that and going here and going, have a hoon in that! Chuck the Royal next in line to the throne. Just put him in that UFO there. He'll be fine. It's the 70s. He's got a lot of time off. His mother's not dying anytime soon. And she doesn't know what he's up to here put him in that you if you're into your foes aren't you Charles? Oh, yes, I do. I do quite like I mean I do believe in them well get in one night We've got one here was that Charles or Yoda? Yes, like I do King Yoda that's a conspiracy, it's the same guy.

Ah, there you go, now we're talking about it. King I would be! Wow. Did he actually fly it, or was he just sort of sitting in it for a photo? Yeah, well I mean, you know, Buckingham Palace has not confirmed that this is a real story, so we're just taking NubTV's word on it, whether or not it's true. NubTV!

If you can believe Nub, I've never even heard of NubTV! That's gotta be an AI make-up there, mate! Yeah, it is! Great, he wants a TV station! Nigel! Nub! You've come up with Nub! Nub, what?

Oh, Nudda! Nudda, you've got nothing! Oh, I'm gonna up with Nub. Nub, what? Oh, Nubba, Nubba, you've got nothing. I'm gonna go with Nub. Nubsy. That's Nub TV. Oh my God, look at the, that is ridiculous. That is Nub. That's the worst. It looks like a Sesame Street thing.

And they're just musical notes, the random UFO. Is that a UFO? Oh, that is ridiculous. No, do you know what it stands for? Nigel's UFO broadcast. It's Nigel's TV show. He's made it. He's just quickly made it up. You can tell he put that together in about two seconds.

We've got a trailer. Why don't we watch the trailer? Oh, here we go. Okay, nubtv.co.uk for anyone else who wants to check it out. A bizarre... That's the Nub TV's byline. Wow. A bizarre mix of music videos, conspiracy theories, and the paranormal. Coming soon, King of UFOs. Okay, here we go.

It won't go any bigger. It's nub-size. Join us now on this riveting journey as we explore the British Royal Family's unique fascination with the unknown. The Royal Family has been interested in UFOs for decades. This was always a matter of extreme sensitivity. Documents going way back to the 50s. The Queen sent scientific advisors to crop circles.

They know more about it. They want to find out more. Of course there's life somewhere else and the royal family believe it. Do you think the technology US pilots are seeing now in the skies could be linked to what Charles was flying? This will leak and it will cause quite a scandal. There were dome-like projections around each of the pilots. Charles and his engineering crew were familiar with the craft.

So many sighting reports. What are they here for? What's Charles going to respond to? Their interest is based on factual knowledge that they've been able to get access to that we don't. It would alarm people. My god, these things are dangerous. It's a bit like a Pandora's box.

If we took the lid off and looked inside, we'd never be the same again. Wow. Nice. Nice one, Nubsie. Look at the poster. God, that actually looks quite legit. I like that.

Yeah. That's a good design for Nubs. Yeah. Nigel's doing good. Oh, look, they got their own podcast. Is that a podcast? I might defect. Oh, no.

I don't know. This seems really nice and convenient. I like the artwork. It's on my same time zone. But you're big on music videos as well. You're a big music video fan. So there you go. And they've got merch. Wow. If they've got merch. Wow.

If they've got a shower curtain, I'm out of here. Yeah. They better not have a shower curtain. Speaking of shower curtains, great segue. Great segue. Yeah. Imagine if some wasps followed you into the shower. Let's check this out. Andrew Powell desperately tried to defend himself as the swarm cornered him in his own bathroom. I tell you, this is pretty full on. The nightmare began when a local farmer, 57 year old from Wales, inadvertently disturbed a nest in a nearby field, prompting the swarm to target Powell, who was out the front of his own house at the time.

Without warning, the insects began to sting him repeatedly, forcing him to retreat inside. Unable to shake them, he even tried sheltering in his shower with his cryptid factor shower curtain. I might have added that though. But even that couldn't stop them. I stumbled about the front of the house and into the shower as one does but they followed me in and stunned me through my clothes in the shower. Oh wow. He said the bathroom was full of them. He ended up being stunned 160 times including 15 times in the back of the head. Wow. He obviously covered his face and stuff.

Fortunately he was able to raise the alarm and his friend drove him to a nearby hospital in a car full of wasps. I was dropping in and out of consciousness, he said. All I could see was a white light. And I thought, here we go. Shat, he thought it was all over. If it wasn't for that unit in Brecon and those two wonderful nurses on Sunday night, I wouldn't be here now, he says. If they hadn't helped me, then I'd be dead. And that's from the BBC. It's astonishing how brutal they can be. I've been on the receiving end of an attack. I went, you know, almost 40 years without getting a single beasting or anything like that. And then one time I was in my forest and I noticed a swarm of what I believe were hornets, hornets, you know, a version of a wasp.

I ran, I got a couple of little stuff and it was through my clothing. That's the hard part with these things is that they just, just straight through whatever you've got on. They'll poke their little scenario through it. And I had like, you know, proper clothing on and I felt these little tingles.

Oh, what's that? Oh, and then I saw that there was these flying things and I saw I ran, they literally followed me. And so I ran back to the house as my own experience and I got about 20 more stings as I was running away. Really? Yeah. And I literally was taking my clothes off as I was running and like swinging them around to use as a kind of deflector thing to get rid of them so that was kind of like for me I've done 40 years not a single and then like one day. It's almost like the man upstairs has gone right let's have a look who hasn't been stunned oh fuck Derby as we haven't even touched Derby get him 36 times today.

36 times today. Yeah. What I'm about to say is an insanely bad dad joke, but just when you said that the source of your article with the BBC, you'd be triggered so badly. Terrible dad joke. My brain is a dad joke. Chuck it in your next book, mate. Chuck it in your next book. It's gone in.

Yeah. But 160 in your next book. It's gone in. Yeah. But 160 times is pretty lethal. So all jokes aside, it's amazing that this dude's still alive. So thank God. That is amazing. There are those wasps, they're calling them the killer wasps, aren't they? That they swarm in massive clouds. And they came up through from South America into the Americas and what have you.

And they actually almost purposefully target people. They just fly around in a massive swarm looking for people to kill. There's been cases of people being swarmed upon and people trying to run and help them and then them just taking out everybody. It sounds like a horror movie. Yeah. The swarm. Yeah.

The swarm. Is that right, Nigel? Yeah. Oh, he's having words with Barry. I think Barry's being fired. Barry's gone. I hope Barry's gone. Barry's walking out with a big box with all his computer bits and pieces in and his pot

plant. Barry, what are you doing? He's going off to be a movie producer. He's got a Cryptid Factor movie idea that he's been doing on for a whole year now. So he's taking that to the producers at Nub TV. They're really interested. Well, he's wasting his time there. He must have got back in the same door and come and talk to Nigel again.

He's running Nubs. He is. Oh, he's giving his phone number to Rachel. She's not interested. Makes you fall on busy. You guys can't do anything anyway. You won't watch wasting your time. They think they've got our emotions, you see.

Oh no, they will soon. Don't you worry. You can't do anything anyway, you robots! Wasting your time. They think they've got our emotions, you see. Oh, no, they will soon. Don't you worry. You can't have love. You can't do it all. Your love's not yours. That's humans. Have you guys... No, I don't love you. No, I don't. I don't even like you. Have you guys heard...

Talk to you, Barry. Love you. Love you, Nigel. So hard to know when it's ended. It never ends. Listen to my wife says. It never ends. Alright, have you guys heard of the Schmidt pain index? No. Alright, so this is the guy called Justin Schmidt. He passed away not long ago, very sadly, but in the 80s he invented this index which measured the painfulness of stings from insects on a scale of 0 to 4.

So he purposefully had himself stung in every location of his body so that he could then say okay that was a 1 or that was a 2 or that was a 5 or whatever right. So I think he had like 78 stings all over his body. Jesus. And he rated it from one to ten. So where do you think are the least painful locations to be stung when you're stung by like a bee? The three least of your body? This will be a trick question. Surely it's a flabby. The bum. Yeah, the gluteus maximus. You've got a lot of beef there. Yeah, could be. Well, one was, and this is good news for the guy in this story, is the skull.

Ah. So if he was stung multiple times in the back of the skull, that might not have been as bad as somewhere else. So, yeah, three least painful locations are the skull, the middle toe tip. Oh. So. Middle toe tip. Middle toe tip?

That's weird. The middle toe tip. Middle toe to. Yeah. That's weird. The middle toe to. The middle toe. Next time you get a swarm of bloody wasps, get your face out. Get her. Hey, hey, hey, get me there. Get me there. That's the middle one.

Yeah. Oh, I got the wrong toe. You got the wrong toe. And yeah, upper arm. But here's the big one then. So where's the most painful? And these registered as between 7.3 and 9. Oh. So the three most painful places.

I would say your hands. Yeah. Always when you get a paper cut or something. Your hands? Uh, no. It's definitely got to be on the penis, isn't it? Yep. That came in third, 7.3. Knew it. Penis shaft, specifically. Knew it. Very sensitive. He stung himself on the penis shaft an app that came in third seven point three new penis shaft.

Stung himself on the penis shaft that is science he is science yeah. He was doing it was a great man Justin Schmidt so seven point three that registered on his scale eight point seven so quite a leap up in its second place we're on the head now both one and two are on the head. See if you can get it. Eyeball. at second place. We're on the head now. Both one and two are on the head. Oh, yeah. See if you can get it. Eyeball. No, I don't know if he went eyeball. I'm not sure he went eyeball. What a pussy. He didn't go eyeball.

What's wrong with the guy? You don't know you're living until you sting your eyeball. Come on. Oh, I made it. You go. Oh, shit, that's a fucking eight. That's an eight. You can't tell me he didn't go for the lips. This is just a big idea for him to extend the girth of his old fella and to make his lips more kissable. You go, oh, you're not near.

Oh, that's a nine. Oh, Jesus Christ, you do the bottom lip as well. So upper lip. Upper lip is number two. Number two. 8.7. Yeah. Wow. And then in at number one, most painful place, nine on the chart is the nostril. No.

Yeah. Really? Yeah. That's very surprising. So yeah, amazing guy for doing it. Yeah, well, there is- Sorry, butsards. What?

Could I just show you guys a photo of him quickly? This is his Wikipedia picture. Oh my god. What a dude. I love him! He's just got a giant bug on his face. And he's got a moustache. I notice he's hiding that top lip in case of a nine...

As a bee protection! As a bee protection. It's a bee protection. And thus also hiding his nostrils too. With the big bushy moe. Little protective area. When bugs outside it'll be like, oh I can't ever go on him. He loves it. He does it for fun.

Yeah just go and jump on him. He loves it. Go for the lips, whatever you want. Go for the nostril. Get yourself some points. Try the penis. Try the penis. Honestly he loves. Honestly, he loves the penis. Go for the shower. Put him into the shower. Get him in the shower. No props. Oh well, I don't know that we've got time for an expedition update. A lot of this will have to be edited out.

Yes it will. Which is a shame because there's some good stuff there. We do have some guests and we must get to them. So please, they are kindly waiting in the waiting room online. Buttons is going to play a very cool sting from the old days and then we'll crash into our interview with the Expedition X team. Have they been in the waiting room this whole time? Because I think if I was in the waiting room listening to us chat, I'd be like, I'm out of here. I'm sorry. I can't be seen on this show. What are you nuts?

We're conversing with our AI team. They're in there with them getting free water and stuff. They go, do I really have to go on? I've just been listening to what's going on in there. I'd rather not. I've got a reputation. The AIs are going, look, we can't stand them. We keep giving them bullshit, but they keep coming back for more. You've got to go on there. Okay. There's nothing't stand them. We keep giving them bullshit, but they keep coming back for more. You've got to go on there. Okay. There's nothing we can do.

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Acast helps creators launch, grow, and monetize their podcasts everywhere. Acast.com. Go. Dun, dun, dun we are with some special guests who I know quite well because I was on their show, Expedition X. Please welcome Phil and Heather to the Cryptid Factor. Yay! Welcome guys! This is like real deal.

This is us looking at what we could have been, you know. These are TV stars. This is so exciting. We're still holding out hope. Well, let's talk about why they're TV stars because they've both got great backgrounds and the paranormal and other stuff. For example, Phil, tell us where your background came from and how you ended up on Expedition X. Yeah, so I dreamt of being a field

biologist my entire life, ever since I was a kid. I loved studying butterflies and insects and so that was my background. I'm a tropical biologist. I went to the Amazon for two years. I still go back regularly. I have research projects. I've discovered spiders and beetles and all that kind of thing. And so, I love that aspect and discovering new species and discovering new behaviors. But I was also a major X-Files fan growing up, like obsessed with that show. I had hats, I had shirts, I had the behind the scenes book. And so, I've always just kind of loved that those stories are out there and they capture kind of everyone's imagination. It's not exclusive. And so, it's been really fun to dive into these

stories over the years on Expedition X to look into these unknown things. Yes, I go in as a skeptic. I don't believe in a lot of these things, but these stories are real. People do have things that they've seen that they can explain, that they felt that they've heard. And so it's very fun to go in and investigate and try to get some answers. I've met a few explorers here in the UK who similarly don't like to slam down these stories because usually by pursuing them, they end up discovering something new that is maybe lost to science and sort of just like, oh, great, now we know that this species is still alive. We thought they might have been extinct in this period. Do you follow any of these things within your own Amazonian adventures?

Don't a bit. You know, I think there's, no matter where you go in the world, even in the middle of the Amazon, there are myths and legends that you hear from the indigenous people that live there. It is a part of human existence to have mysteries around you and things you can't explain and lore. And so, I don't necessarily find ways to kind of pivot these into discovering new things about the science. I do pretty often but I find it pivots really well to teach you about what is out there, different ways that you can study the natural world that has overlap. For example, for Nessie, we got to look at the eDNA, which is a really fascinating scientific method that it seems like a magic trick. Yeah.

That you get to take a little sample of water. You don't drink the water, okay? Don't drink it because there's probably poop in there or fish mucus or fish scales or all sorts of things that you filter through this other little bottle. you put a preserving agent inside of it, send it to a lab and they can analyze essentially every little particle in there, every little bit what animal it came from. And if you do that over and over and over in an environment, you can get some really interesting answers. See, this is the difference between your show and our show. When we first went to Loch Ness, first thing that buttons, Leon did was literally lean down When we first went to Loch Ness, first thing that buttons Leon did was literally

leaned down, stuffed his face into Loch Ness and started drinking it. And he was like, I just want to, I want to get it in me. I want to be a part of it. If you're going to die of something to die of Nessie scales. I mean, come on. Yeah. Also, yeah. Before we go any further, Heather, tell us about what your background is and how you

ended up on the Fantastic Expedition X this season. Well, I got the call and I answered as it were. That's how I ended up there. But my background is I'm a third generation paranormal investigator. So my grandma, she passed away when I was very, very young, but she would get all these magazines. She was fascinated with aliens and UFOs and Roswell, of course, like that was like her prime time.

So she was derived to everything she possibly could to try and investigate and understand. She put that love of the paranormal into my mom and me and my mom started ghost hunting 20 years ago, over 20 years ago now. And so we've been doing that for a long time. We run a paranormal expo here in Arkansas. It's a fundraiser for one of our most haunted museums right here in town. We try to raise money to help keep going as it were, because it is an old building and we all know that those fall down. Is it a museum of hauntedness or it's a haunted museum? So it's like a normal museum that's

haunted. It's a normal museum. It's a military museum. But it gets rented out for a ton of different groups that want to investigate it because it does have a lot of activity. And yeah, it's a government-owned building, so they keep the reputation pristine and clean. But, you know, we all love investigating it. And you go in there and you have so much activity. We want to keep it going. We want to make sure that we enable as many people that want to investigate it,

that they are able to do so. And we also teach classes there too. The person that might want to just dip their toe in. That's a good time for them to learn how to do paranormal investigations. Wow. Nice. Make sure you've got your battery. When we're staying in the castle, he's, he's, have you got your little paranormal kit there? Tell us what's in it because Heather will be interested in your little kit.

Well, yeah, I carry this little kit with me. We're never going on expeditions. It's got a EMF electromagnetic field, all important. And it's got a field camera, like a little triggered by something walking past trail cam type camera. It's got some little knives, it's got a Sasquatch cooler and it's got a hip flask full of Nessie water just in case you get thirsty at any point. Yeah, touch. I can drink it holy water if something's attacking me.

Oh yes. Squash it. Yeah, that's not a bad idea. Lovely idea. We yes. Squashing. Yes. That's not a bad idea. Lovely idea. We need to test that. Yeah, it's funny, right, because when I bought back some Loch Ness water and a hip flask for Reese, well, of course I didn't buy a hip flask for myself, but I had an old plastic

Coca-Cola bottle. So I filled that up with Nessie water and brought that all the way back to New Zealand with me. I put it up in my attic for safety. How did you get your security? Well, no, just in my chicken bag, you know, I didn't dare take it on the plane with me. But funnily enough, I put it up in my attic for safekeeping, forgetting that every now and then, cause I live in the country, we get the odd rat comes into the ceiling space. And one morning I came out and there was water dripping through the ceiling.

And I thought I had a leak in the roof. And one morning I came out and there was water dripping through the ceiling and I thought I had a leak in the roof. Turns out the rats ate into the bottle and drank a whole bunch of the Nessie water and the Nessie water literally spilled everywhere through my house. I told them that rat. I think this is the beginning of a horror story. Exactly. I'm going to grow clippers.

Oh no, I'm open so I keep my next word. Exactly. It's anointed. My rats are anointed. It's a technical abeynstalk, isn't it? Yeah. Oh no, I'm open so I keep looking for it to see what exactly it's anointed my rats. It's a bit of a joke on the beanstalk isn't it? Yeah.

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if some little thing starts to create and live. That's what I'm open for. That's what I'm open for. You filled up a small hip flask of the Nessie water and brought it back to me as a gift. Didn't you? Yeah, I did. I wasn't there. I was back in New Zealand at the time and he said, I've got you a little

present from Loch Ness and it was a little hip flask with Nessie on it. It was full. I was like, oh, this must have some whiskey in it. And I went to open it and drink it. I was going to drink it and he said, oh, you might not want to drink it. It is the Loch Ness water. This is mine. Look at that. That's my Nessie water that I brought back. Stop it. It is the Loch Ness water. This is my, look at that. That's my Nessie water that I brought back.

Stop it, I'm quite thirsty at the moment. You're making me very thirsty. Oh God. It's like proper urine yellow. Yeah. At this point. Well, I'll just say this, when you're there, and we noticed this when we were there recently,

gosh, it's so dark and so black, that water. What's your take on that? Yeah, I mean, it's all the peat and all the tannins, all the distincts from plants, from the moss, from everything that gets deep into the water makes it dark. And so, I scoop it over in there by day and by night. And when you're alone 15-40 feet, you can't tell the difference when you're down that deep. It might as well be pitch black outside because it just eats up all the light. It is so, so dark. Apparently, that's also what makes all the whiskey taste so good is all those kind of particles in

the water. It's not just the depth of the lock, it's the minerals and everything that's in there as well that's making it that dark. Yeah, and making it that more mysterious because it's what a perfect place to hide because it's very hard to see. Yeah. So now guys, of course, the whole reason we kind of feel like you guys owe us some kind of, I don't know, at least a decent thank you because-

Gratitude? Yeah, gratitude of some sort, because I mean, it turns out- You can bet- I did. My word, it's. I thought we were going to bring this up later in the podcast. It's so soon for intervention, but yeah. We got to rip the band-aid off.

Yeah, guys, where's our thanks? Where's our goddamn thanks? No, but the whole reason you guys, I understand, got to go to Loch Ness and do an expedition to Loch Ness was thanks to the one and only Reese Darby's discovery of the Loch Ness photos. And that's bored off a whole wonderful trip for you and fill your first time to Loch Ness. Yours, Heather, as well. Yes, yes, it was a bucket list item. Yeah. And that's definitely true without all of your hard work on the technological side.

Staying up for what was it, Reese, three nights straight? No, I think it was. Three nights or something? I mean, I have embellished that slightly. It is because once he gets onto something, he never stops. I think you did tell me that you barely slept for three days getting that sorted, right? Yeah, I did. I couldn't stop myself. Yeah, that's right. No, it was so refreshing to get evidence in a organized, digestible way because because so often people are like, here's this blurry photo and you know, we show up to interview these people who we've been in contact with,

we've seen something recently and they're like, oh yeah, let me see if I can find it on my phone. And I'm like, are you kidding me? Like, let's have at it. So, the fact that you guys were able to track those images down, put them in a digestible manner where we could really look at the best frames and really get a sense of the scale and the time that this thing moved. When Heather and I went there, I mean, the first thing we did besides talk to Steve was try to debunk these images. That's my bread and butter. I seen something and I say, okay, it looks convincing but look where you are, you're a Loch Ness. You're in this place where

anything unexplainable you're gonna probably think is messy. And so, we did our best to debunk it and either what did I do? I put on a scuba suit, went out on a boat, I went down below and blew bubbles as much as I could down there. And- Yeah, that was really fun to watch too, buttons, because obviously one of the theories was that some of those pictures are just scuba diver bubbles. So, when Phil went down and did it, and the bubbles were just absolutely nowhere near the size. God, stop criticizing my bubble size, okay? It's really... I don't have to hear it from you, Julian. It's esic bubbles for a scuba diver.

We expected so much more. No, but it was good because you could tell it definitely wasn't scuba diving bubbles, you know. So, so it was exciting to see that. Yeah. You know, I went years ago to Loch Ness and the first impression I got of it was I had no idea how big it was. I had no idea how beautiful it was. What was your impression having read about it all these years? Not even Nessie, just the visual of the place.

Yeah, the exact same. Nessie is a bucket list or was a bucket list item for me, and I still want to go back and investigate it over and over and over again. But Loch Ness is stunning. It's so beautiful, like the storms roll in, rainbows appear and then they disappear. I mean, it's just so magical. Even if you took away Nessie, that space, the surrounding land, the lake is just stunning. I mean, it's also a relatively harsh environment out there.

The water, I mean, the way they described it to us is like, it's a giant bathtub, you know, because it's this long, really deep thing. You know, when a storm comes from the north, it's pushing waves this way. When it comes from the north, it's pushing waves this way, when it comes from the south, pushing waves that way. So, it's very turbulent water. It's hard to get to, it's hard to see both on top of the water and when you're in the water. It is kind of the perfect storm of a hiding place. Like you could see if it is there or not, why people still believe

it would be there because it's a hard place to investigate. The conditions were rough. We had to cancel some filming days. Somebody has to go out on the water and get a bigger boat because the boat that we had at the time was, what about doing this the entire time? And I've already seen Heather puke once on our show and I wasn't ready to have her have to do that. Right, look, it's worth it. It is. Those waves, they were like eight feet tall one of the days. So, I mean, look, it's worth it. It is. Those waves, they were eight feet tall one of the days. So, I mean, yeah, we had to cancel. I definitely would have thrown up again, which we don't.

That's amazing. Phil, just really quickly, you know what you're talking about when you go to the Amazon and you're looking for spiders and butterflies and all that stuff. One thing I don't know about that area is, is that an interesting place generally to go and study the wildlife? Were there other things on your list that you wanted to check out while you were there that were separate to Nessie?

I mean, it's one of those where you do get some really unique species out there because of the acidity of the water, for example, you get some unique fish. I was looking for these other things that could be Nessie. You do get the occasional river otter, you get the occasional dolphin, you get the occasional seal coming through there. get the occasional dolphin, you get the occasional seal coming through there. And of course, when I was down in the water, these eels because you're like, are you an eel or are you a baby nessie just waiting to get bigger? And so, everywhere I go, I'm always trying to find what is the local secret thing that

is there. And in general, if it's barely a disturbed habitat, which it is out there, I mean, it's beautiful habitat along the side, you're going to find something good. And so being able to dive in the water and actually use our ROV into the water. Because our ROV went down, I think over 200 feet or something to the bottom and you start to see these things move around. It was the ROV that actually did see something that you guys- It's there again.

Yeah, yeah. Can you tell us about that? Because that was the kind of the real stunning moment of the episode. That was incredible. So there really was something there and it was huge and it was playing with us. That's the only way I can describe it because it was so quick.

It shoot across the sonar and Phil was driving. I'd say, oh, go right, go right, go left, go left. And it just kept coming back and you'd think it disappeared and then it come back and it was just incredible because whatever it was, was playful, was testing us and it was huge. Wow. And you know, the reason that we brought in the ROV was because that visibility that we talked about, the water is so peaty, the visibility even in the brightest sun is maybe 15, 20 feet in front of you.

And once you start to go down and down and down, this submersible, it's called the Deep Trekker. It's this amazing company that makes these things. We've used them in the past and this is their newest model. And it has these like stadium bright lights in front of it. And still, because the water is just so thick with this, you can't see that far. That's where this technology, this side scanning sonar comes in because they can kind of see through that. It sheets out sound and sound

travels really both through water, murky or not, and then it gives you these images back. And I did a big training session with them before going out to learn how to read these images that show up on screen, how to kind of track certain things because, you know, small objects can create a big shadow behind them. So, how to kind of identify what it is you're looking at. And I'm the skeptic, like I'm like, okay, sure, this is fun to be here. Are we really going to find anything under the water? And quickly, when we started navigating down there, we got this hit that disappeared in the first second and then it came back like Heather said and we were just, I mean, I was almost too stunned to react. We're filming a show, I need to like amp up what is happening

because I was so blown away. I was like, that's not really there. How was it there? And we also became so obsessed with this because we found something that not only is it recording all this visually, but there's also data associated with this sonar. So, we sent it to the Deep Trekker company. We hounded them for a week to say, analyze this, tell us how big this thing is because they have the special software they can input it in, do these measurements across the screen. And they said basically between 10 and upwards of over 20 feet. Wow.

And that's confirmed finding. That's amazing. That's confirmed finding. Wow. That's amazing. That's awesome. We were in shock when that was going on. What the hell is on this screen right now? Like you're joking. And you can see your reactions on the show when it comes up

and it was so exciting because I didn't expect you guys to get that, you know, by going there. It's so hard. The sightings are so far and few between and some of them are easily debunkable and others but the sonar ones are the ones that kind of are the most intriguing. Yeah. Unless you get really great photographic evidence like Chi Kelly's. Were you in the same area of where those photographs were taken when you were doing that or was that in another area of the

log? We were in another area based on some kind of recordings that had there done earlier in the day listening down below. So, you know. That's the thing. It doesn't matter where you are, where you go, because it's just like you say, John-Ian bathtub where there's something moving around. Had you gone scuba diving before or after you saw the 20, 10 to 24-foot image? I went immediately after. You went?

When I saw that. Wow, brave. Oh wow, okay. Was that a bit more terrifying for that reason or not? No, I get less scared when I'm more focused on finding something. Like I'm not good with heights, but when we're filming, we have an objective of where we were trying to go. We just rappelled down like a 300 foot cliff and bleeds

because we had to get down to this cave. And I mean, Heather rappelled with me, okay, I was a little scared. I was shaking a bit. But in general, when I'm focused and not saying it with my research, I work out in the Amazon, where I'd be alone at night sometimes in Jaguar territory. And if I just shit and think about the Jaguar that could sneak up behind me and crush my skull, we call it the jungle scared. But when I'm focused on, okay, what species am I looking for tonight? That kind of goes away. So, with this, it was just this chance of, okay, we have this sonar image of something. We know it's big. What if I get down there? Like, what could happen? Because we had all our screw hook equipment on board, we had our safety diving team on hand,

just in case anything happened. I was like, this is an opportunity I cannot pass up. And so, I went down and I mean, I'll be honest, there were some shadows around that you know, may have just been my optimism playing tricks on my eyes of hoping to see something down there. But to just know that hey, maybe I was swimming within a hundred, two hundred feet of this thing was, I mean, that's thrilling enough. And that's really brave. Eaton Blanessy is a great headstone thing, isn't it? Well, it is. That's what you want.

Phil, that's really brave and all. But were you brave enough to drink any of the lock water? I mean, come on. I mean, I'm just saying that. There we go. There's levels, there's levels of... There's stupidity and there's a fine line to it. There's a fine line to it.

Oh, it's a fine line to dance. It's a fine line to dance. It's a fun line to dance. Um, now the one thing around the size, one of the things that I think in the pictures that Chee Kelly took, there's wonderful pictures and the many nights of sitting and looking at them. One of the things that I noticed going along with the size of the creature or the object that you saw in the water. One of the very little commented things that I've noticed around the photographs is the actual size of the disturbance under the water. Everybody looks at the shiny objects that sort of pop up out

of the water and the little wake that it creates. But what I noticed is that given the reflection of the sun on the water, everything looks silver apart from the big dark areas where clearly there's a disturbance underneath and it's changing the surface of the water there and it's darker. You can clearly see that big dark shadow move with the little shiny head appearances. In some ways, those are two very complimentary pieces of evidence, right? What you saw is about 20 foot and I would argue that probably this disturbance area in the water was exactly around 20 foot as well. So yeah. And in fact,

when we took the submersible down to the bottom, we actually saw a big disturbance of silt down there. So it looked like something big had been moving around there as well. You know, it sounds crazy. Like I went into the show never wanting to be like, I seem like that crazy guy talking about that these things are real. But when we have that and it's something you measure and you say okay, you know, Nessie could be any form, not saying it's a big dinosaur, but there was something down there that was big, that was swimming, that was moving. What is it?

I don't know, but I want to go back. Yeah. Because here's the thing, with your marine biology experience, one of the big theories is that it's a giant eel, there's giant eels, there's eels there, but they just don't get that big. In your experience, I mean, do you think it could possibly be a ridiculous big eel? No, because you know, as far as I know, even in the fossil record, I don't think there's

any big giant eels and there are giants of many animals. I may be wrong on that but as far as I know, if you think of the physical form of an eel, why does it involve to be this snakey thing? It's because it's really good at going into these little burrows and little tiny holes and having a gate around a complex structure and finding food and getting them. So, the biggest you get, it still has to be in a place where it can hide, it can find structures small enough for it to fit in. So, there's really no evolutionary reason to be a giant eel because why have that body shape in the first place? Why be big like that? There's no advantage other than going into nooks and

crannies. If you're going to be that big, you should have some big fins that you can push around with and you can spin around and all that. So, even if you think of it in that way, it doesn't quite add up but as always with these things, saying what it is, it doesn't exactly tell you what it is or what it does look like. It's just, for me, it's always a process of elimination and trying to think of what is the most likely scenario for what could be swimming in there? Yeah.

An eel is one of the theories of what it could be. Heather, I wanted to ask you about the fact, you know, third generation paranormal expert, one of the big theories out there on the long list is that it potentially is the ghost of a plesiosaur. And that's been thrown out a lot. Did you subtly in the background while Phil's down doing his diving, were you doing any sort of paranormal checks? Oh, no, I wasn't. We've prost over a little bit. We had a couple of situations this last season where we do bring out some of my ghost hunting technology. But with that, no, for me, I love Nessie. I love Nessie and I've always read about Nessie. Even at the plastic book fair, I was getting out

those books when I was seven. So I think it was substantial. It was interacting on the sonar. It was interacting with the physical environment. I know you aren't as a big into ghosts. I know you'll like your cryptids. Yeah, I love my good books. What you know, ghosts can interact physical environment. So I could see where some people would believe that.

But at the same time, there's so many different types of interactions. It comes up on so many different types of technology, whether it's images, video, sonar. It seems like it's more of a physical cryptid. Yeah. And the even wilder theory is the quartz crystal time travel theory, whereby there's so much quartz crystal around the lock

that's having an effect. So there's a rip in time when you actually look out at some point, you're actually looking into the past. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Or a stone tape theory, or you said that it's replaying some form of history or some kind of the environment has recorded a scene that it's replayed. Yeah.

I'm probably the same as you. Phil's checked out. I'm still listening. Sorry. Bill, Bill, it comes back. Bro, it comes back. Bro, it comes back. Bro, it comes back. Bro, it comes back.

Bro, it comes back. Bro, it comes back. I didn't mean it myself for a second. No, listen, this is, when people talk about this and you've been there, you kind of get it because the way the landscape looks, the way with the castle on the side, it does feel like you are back in time. Or like we've all seen movies about, you know, Braveheart and all those types of things. It gives you this feeling of being back in time. So, I could see why people could think that. But I've had that happen with a lot of our investigations where the witnesses we talk

to or certain people always had to lean towards this wormhole or ripple in time theory. To me, I'm like, that's just not so convenient where you're saying, oh, there's no proof of exhaust because they can jump into another reality or, you know, these just seem a little too farfetched. And I would try to say, okay, what's the simplest most likely thing to be happening here? It is probably not a time warp, but that's also why Josh Gates likes to say, I'm no fun. I'm not the fun guy. Because, you know. You sound dull. Yeah.

But you sound cool when you're talking about your underwater robot machine. That's right. That's right. Which also has a time warp ability. Oh, cool. Yeah. It was interacting with our ROV. It wasn't looking at something that was like a residual replay in something. It was zigzagging around our sonar. Like it was interacting with us. It wasn't like the straight line or going to go hunt something.

It was definitely an interaction. At least that's how it is. Well, that's interesting because I was going to raise that before Heather, because of course a lot of sea creatures that's been proven a very susceptible to electromagnetic waves. As far as there's a lot of people that have, in fact, forest Galante, who came on our podcast a little while ago, he was a big fan of wearing wetsuits with Faraday cages built into them to stop the actual human emission of electricity with the heartbeat and all that kind of stuff.

And he found that by wearing those, he could swim right up to see mammals that would normally swim away. And so I do wonder that maybe your friends with the ROV, the underwater ROV Phil, you can actually look next time to actually wrap the ROV in some kind of Faraday cage. But also that's the problem with sonar, right?

You're emitting high-frequency sound waves. You don't know whether or not Nessie the ROV and some kind of Faraday caged. But also that's the problem with sonar, right? You're emitting high frequency sound waves. You don't know whether or not Nessie or whatever creatures down there is susceptible to those. And it's actually like blasting really loud noises that then kind of go on, man, I got to get away from this thing. So-

Or they can be curious too. I think there's always a chance of curiosity and saying, okay, I'm not used to this type of thing down at my level or this type of bright light or these type of electromagnetic fields. So, maybe get just close enough to be able to inspect it itself and then back up. As Heather said, it seemed to be interacting, moving away, moving closer, where, you know, it seemed to acknowledge we existed. I'll take that.

That's great. Now, by the way, it feels like a way more hassle-ish moment at security checking at the airport than the Nessie water getting your Faraday cage through the middle detector. You always get a weird on. Exploration. Trumped by security at airports. Well, congratulations on a pretty successful expedition. And I know you guys have done a lot.

You've got so many more episodes this season to come out and I've had a look online and I'm really excited about ones that we're about to see including episode six, it's a skunk ape, which is another cryptid that we've chatted about. So, it'd be awesome if we can get you guys back a little bit later on and have a chat about that too to see how that went down. We would love to. Yeah, it would definitely have you back. It was so cool for us to be involved in this Chi Kelly evidence along with Steve Faltham

and then to basically get the headlines all around the world and the tabloid papers that this little podcast did something to help cryptozoology and using buttons, amazing technical skills, and then for it to lead to a really bonafide expedition by you guys on Expedition X, which was successful to a lot of degree. So, yeah, it's just been awesome. Can I just quickly ask what the footage you took of the 10 to 20 foot, what's that done to the community? Are they all analyzing that now? It's so funny because, you know, we put it out there, we'd love to share with you guys just to share these images and the measurements and all that. But it's like, sometimes it

feels like the world is a little distrusting and I'm like, no, listen, like on our show, we're always very stray with if we get something, we get something, if we don't, we don't. And we got something compelling and I think sometimes people are like, okay, how convenient, your TV show goes and they happen to get something. I'm telling you what we got is really interesting. So if you guys would, you know, help amplify it and boost it out there, we're always happy to do that as well. Looks like another assignment for you, Buttons. Yay!

Buttons, why don't you not sleep for three nights? Yeah. We couldn't have done it without you. And obviously, like like we appreciate so much with all that and releasing this. It was like, that's one of the end results for your work buttons. They've gone and done this and found this new footage.

And you know, it's pretty cool just to sort of feel that, you know, maybe Phil was actually under the water there when Nessie was within range, swimming around, toying. It's just gone full circle. Yeah. Well, I'm just saying guys, if you need another host or something like that, I mean, this podcast has been going for 16 years, hasn't really gone anywhere.

I'm sort of looking for new opportunities. If you guys need a new- Unfortunately, Heather's already got the boring guy. All right. Yeah. Get to this. Mate, you're gonna have a really boring guy, Philip. And then you'll be the cool super guy.

I mean, he just sits back in the caravan. And I'm not scared of heights. I'm not scared of heights. I'm just saying, I've got lots of attributes that could be helpful. He's not scared of heights. And he will drink the water. And I'll drink the water! Guys, no seriously, it would be wonderful.

I know it's fantasy land, but to look to do an expedition together sometime, the encrypted factor X expedition X. That would be a cool logo to say. Yeah, let's see if we can't do that. At least it would be fun. And at least we'd come back with lots of merch and memorabilia. Just in Australia. What's that mean? Yowie? Yeah. Yeah in Australia. Well, it's at the Yowie.

Yeah. Yeah. Australia. Have you guys haven't done that one yet, have you? Oh, it's on. No, we've come close to it, but just logistically getting out to Australia has always been a challenge. Yeah. Let us know if you guys do do that one, because we can easily get there in a hop, skip and a jump. If you wanted to go to New Zealand, there's a great one there because Buttons's dad once went for a pee in a forest and he came running out and he was so scared he drove off immediately with them in the car and he didn't tell them what had happened. They never found out what he saw except for a man in a pub who told Buttons years and years later that apparently while taking a pee, his dad saw a mountain in front of him, develop a face and start talking to him.

And then that's what sent him running. So you can go and try and discover the talking mountain face. And participants will know the exact spot where that happened. Well, yeah, I go and talk to that mountain every day, hoping it'll talk back to me, but still nothing. Have you peed at the mountain yet? Because that's what you want got to pee at the mountain. That's what I'm missing.

That's what I'm missing. Drink the nasty water, pee out, look at the mountain. Push that pee between your toes. We've also got the moose. You've got to come down and help us find the moose. Oh yeah, the Audland moose. That's the actual cryptic. We have this tree moose.

Yeah, actually you would love this, That's the actual cryptid. We have this tree moose. We've got the moose track done. Ooh. Yeah, actually, you would love this, Phil, because it's an example of something that is entirely possibly there and they're using eDNA to try and find it. Moose were introduced into New Zealand and they introduced another animal and they couldn't survive and so they died out. There's a guy who's been hunting them for 50 years now, believing that he's found traces of them. And Neil Gemmell, who did the eDNA that was at Loch Ness, the first ever test, he's going there to help out this moose hunter to see if they can find traces of it as well.

It's like it was the turn of the century and somebody had a fantastic tourism idea to release moose into this place called Fiordland, which is an incredibly beautiful part, the most beautiful part of New Zealand. It is huge, expansive forest. They released the moose and then invited people to come hunting the moose in the forest. They released the moose, never saw them ever again. They just absolved into the bush and then nobody ever could spot them again. But people have seen, there's like a helicopter pilot a couple of years ago from Canada and he flew along and spotted one and Identified a moose turn this helicopter around it had gone like all these wonderful little moments like that You guys would love it by coincidence the guy in the helicopter was like a Canadian moose hunter. So it was a legit

Yeah, like it was just unbelievable coincidence Yeah, yeah highly worth checking out. I'll send you the link. The guy is Ken Tunston, and he's very much like Steve Feltham. He's been searching for the moose for over 30 years. And he's got a book. Listen to this. A nearly in brackets complete history of the moose in New Zealand. Yeah. He's got another one called the wild moose chase. Yeah, he's he's he's a great guy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on down. And then there's all the hobbits to find. Oh, yeah. We're watching on Daniel in the realms of fantasy now. OK, well, thanks so much, guys. We'll let you go because it's been long, but really cool to talk to you. Thanks so much for being on our podcast.

Yeah. Best of luck with the rest of the season and more expeditions. And we can't wait to keep watching Expedition X. All right, thank you guys so much. We'd love to come back some time. Yeah, thank you. Awesome, thank you. Thanks guys. Thanks.

Bye. Well, there we have it. How fantastic was that? So legit, so cool that it worked out that way. So great to chat with these guys and hopefully we can work with them again in the future. Yeah, well, and I'm so glad that they gave a heartfelt thank you to us as well.

I wasn't expecting that. It was just so genuine and unexpected. No, you weren't pushing for that at all. No, no. Well, we have a little surprise that didn't open with that, but no, so awesome to be connected with those guys. Yeah, I haven't seen the footage, but Reese, you obviously have. So I guess everyone needs to look out for this episode and find out more about this

10 to 20 foot long thing that they saw following them underneath the water. Yeah, it's not that evident on the screen. There is something and it's because of the underwater sonar, rather than it be a photographical evidence obviously, but there is cameras on that machine as well. And you see this moment where so much sand and dust is pulled up, like a creature of some significant size has suddenly moved from the bottom. And then there is another small image from the sonar that something is there. So that's what they went and got tested for size and yet 10 to 20 feet.

I mean, that's pretty remarkable. If you ask me, that can only be one thing. Yeah. And that is? A log. Well, no, it does really genuinely check out with the images that we got to put together and see for the first time. And it really does actually now all of this fervor around this footage that we got to

play with. I do look back now at that time, you know, when Dan put me in touch with Chi and Steve Faltham and getting to see the pictures before anybody else in the world, literally some of the very first people to look at those photos in the world and be able to analyze them and know that you're holding on to these really precious things that the world is going to see very shortly, but that wee little window where you're the only ones that know about it, I've got to say was quite a highlight. I was going to ask you that because no one's really said that to you, but like how did it feel when you were looking at these images for the first time?

Did you believe in your heart that, geez, we've got something here. And there was a kind of a weight of responsibility attached to that. Well, yeah, I've never actually revealed this, but I actually, when I was working on the photos, I was actually screen recording my screen as I worked on it the whole time, all through the night. And it genuinely was awake for three nights worth of you know working on these images, but I screen recorded as I was working on them because almost to sort of prove the legitimacy of working on the images to actually try and show that there was no kind of

Going in and fudging the pictures to make them look better or anything like that. But also because I was just having so much fun working on this. Yeah. And the excitement of knowing that you're working on something that the world's going to see that I wanted to screen record it so I could relive the moment. And I've done that almost every night since all that time ago. I just watched me working on my computer. I probably need to get out a bit more, but it's just such a great video. How are you on the screen if you're screen recording? Oh no, it's just my screen. Just

watching the mouse move around and stuff. It's really cool. Yeah, you can't see you. Yeah. You know what we should do with this actually, thinking about the cryptozoology museum that we have, if you put a screen up, you could have that playing on loop, your recording of you doing that, of actually rendering those pictures and just have that as a museum item, I think. Yes. Which brings us up to number four. That's a great idea. You can have a little plaque underneath it with something written, you know, this is when I did this at the date and time. That's a great idea.

Yeah. I love that idea. And we could see you permanently in front of the screen. You could just be there pretending to be doing it live. It's just moving the mouse around. It's actually just screen recording and I'm just here the whole time going, this is what it looked like. I mean, I was 20 years younger, but it looked just like this.

Or I tell you, you know, who's out of a job that probably could do it. Barry, who's just been kicked off. Barry. He could robotically set him up to look just like you. And he could sit there at the computer being you. Brilliant. Yeah. Brilliant.

Do you know the ABBA museum in Stockholm? They have a thing where there's a piano which belongs to one of the ABBA guys and it's a piano that's linked to his piano at home. So when he sits at his piano and plays it at home it starts playing in the museum. Just out of nowhere. That's pretty cool. And that's what we could do. Whenever we record these episodes in the museum we could just have our computers showing what is being googled by buttons. No because at some point somebody would leave those computers on in the museum when we're not podcasting and researching other things. Late night porn. Oh we're open late tonight the museum's open till midnight coming night. Oh, actually, what's happening on this computer set?

That's not right. Oh gee, oh my God, that's Leon's fuel link. Oh, that is disgusting. That is, sorry, Barry, look away! Barry's dressed as Leon and he's doing something over there. No, don't you, oh, he's coming, oh my God. There's no use you getting into it, you don't have an appendage, Barry!

I'm pulling the link. Buds is doing his other podcast that he's doing. This is his OnlyFans podcast. That's supposed to be for the other museum. Yeah, he's in the bloody shower. Hey, we can see you in the shower. He's wrapped that beautiful cryptid factor curtain around himself there. Oh, my God. here come the wasps.

Here they come, they're coming in. It's all over. Yep, they've gone straight for the shaft. Straight for a number nine. That's a nine pointer, there we go. Oh, he's raising his nostril, he's hoping for the ultimate. He's got six up, he's nostril, he's done the record. That's 9.9 times six.

I'm not a mathematician, but I think he's taken out the trophy. And look how much money he's making on OnlyFans. Way more than his Patreon. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Oh.

Speaking of Patreon, this being episode 99, and before we sign off and start working on getting episode 100 ready to bring to you. Yeah, the big one. We do have to say a massive thank you to our Patreon family, the Cryptid Knights. Their support actually got us over to Edinburgh to record all of those shows. And those five shows that we recorded in Edinburgh are up on the Patreon and are there for people who are part of our lovely Patreon family, the Cryptid Knights. So get along there if you want to hear the hilarity that happened there.

And once again, some of the best days of my life, guys. Oh, wow. Yeah. Can see it in your face. Yeah. For me, it was sort of middling. I've had better days just at home on my own. But I enjoyed it. Yeah. Until you mentioned it, I forgot we did it. So that's good to be reminded.

Well, it was some of the best days of my life, but then I went to Ibiza and hung out with Noel Gallagher and that undid everything. That was really, that put me stratospheric. I mean, you know, I changed course of history by getting the Gallagher's back together. Yeah. So I'm not too fussed about it either to be quite honest. Something really upsetting I've just noticed. I love listening to our podcast like when an episode comes out, I love playing it in bed.

And, you know, sometimes there's six months distance between recording and it being released. So it's all new stuff, right? Totally. It is. Yeah. So I just saw on Instagram, the Cryptid factor has said 99th episode coming soon. And I saw that earlier today and I got really excited because I was like, yes, I can listen to this in bed at night. And I've just realized only just now that we're recording it right now.

How disappointing is that? You're going to have to listen to Nub TV podcast to go to sleep tonight now. Oh no. That's tragic. And I think this is something for the fans. It's way more fun when we put one out once a month or once every six months because we completely forget what we did and we enjoy listening to it. But hey look we're now helping extend it to the love for you, beautiful listeners so please enjoy and we'll see you next time for the Big 100. Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 99's and the balloons in the war I left them through. They tasted our friend and then they popped. People complained, hey, you can't leave so many balloons in there.

It's not good for the environment. 99 day lost balloon. Oh, that's the end of me. I'm getting sued. I'm getting sued. I've got Bono on the phone. There he is. Look, I'm a big fan of Nina. You can't do that, mate. All right, you're going down. Yes, it's me, Bono.

Don't use the real name, Earl. That's going to cost you more. Is it done?