The Cryptid Factor - #101 The Broken Curse Issue

Episode Date: December 24, 2024

We're Back!! Which in essence means the 'Buttons in the titles curse' is broken! (as long as you can actually hear this, that is). In this Xmas issue you'll find Hillary's backpack going on a lazy code expedition, ocean song curses continue, Bears do insurance fraud, a yellow brick road found at the bottom of the sea, spooky digital cryptids,Thai chickens eaten by baby-eating Krasue's, Darby discloses the Drone/UFO situation - and some other wonderful tit-bits! All this, as well as a very special guest - Steve Wriggly! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Wow. What a return. Yeah. More importantly guys, we've broken the curse! Sure it took 3 or 4 months but we've broken the buttons and the titles curse. Oh my god, how did we do it? That was amazing and the best part was that the curse was real bro. Isn't that spooky?

Yeah, it really was. I hope this one comes out. Good point, we haven't broken it yet. Until people actually hear this. Yeah. It isn't broken. If you're hearing this now, the curse is broken. Wow. And if you're not hearing this now, the curse is still very real.

Yeah, if you can't hear this, the curse is still on. Yeah. Yeah. Did we do anything to break the curse to get to the recording point or is that not part of the curse? Actually yeah. Reece what did it say in the user manual when we first started the podcast? Well it said that we all had to travel to each other's places when we weren't there for a period of time. Right. And that kind of happened. It did. So I went to the UK when Dan wasn't there, Dan went to New Zealand when I wasn't there,

and Buttons went to LA when I wasn't here. There you go! That's how we teared the curse apart. By an international lack of coordination. That's what it says. Wow. That only Buttons could fall together. Good to know. Yeah, yeah. There's what it says. Wow. That only buttons could pull together. Good to know.

Yeah, yeah. There's so much to catch up on. It's been four months and some of us have seen each other in that time. Yeah. Me and buttons saw each other in New Zealand. You two saw each other in LA. Something that was very exciting that we got to do is we got to take on Air New Zealand Hilary's backpack as carry-on luggage.

What? That's right. I was in New Zealand because I was doing my podcast tour with Fish. Yeah. And at the end of every show, I have a special guest come on stage to be inducted into a Hall of Fame. And I thought it'd be fun to induct Hillary's backpack into the Hall of Fame.

Oh, brilliant. But we forgot to do it in Auckland. So, Buttons had to take it on board Air New Zealand. And it's way too big to bring his carry on, but they allowed it once they heard what it was. And we brought it to Wellington with us for it to go on stage. And I tell you, Reece,

I took this backpack everywhere we went, and it was like having an ultimate like card to get you in any club that you wanted to get into. I was like, do you know what this is? This is Hillary's Yeti backpack. They wanted to touch it. It was amazing. Everyone felt like they were meeting a celebrity. Yeah. The great thing was is that every single person was like, hang on, Hillary went looking for the Yeti? Yeah. And you kind of think that people would go, oh, he's bonkers, but they go, he's so badass. What a great New Zealander. Oh, good. Because he downplayed that mission for so many years because he was worried that

people would lose a little bit of faith and opinion of his expeditionary skills. Because like, what, you're going after a match? New things from our mate. You've lost it. But he didn't. And people didn't lose the faith. Because, you know, we're all into Indiana Jones here. We're trying to find the mystical realm.

And that's exactly what he did in his Yeti expedition. Yeah. Well, we did something cool as well. Because I messaged his son, Peter Hillary Hillary to see if he would come on stage Yeah to be part of this moment So I sent him an email. I got an email half an hour later from him. And this is the email said hello Dan Thanks for the invitation, but I'm in Antarctica so unable to attend the show This family is incredible

Unbelievable and so buttons ends up calling up the charity which is called the... What are they called? The Himalayan Trust. Yeah, Himalayan Alpine Trust. And he's like, hi, I'm looking to speak to a Hillary and the guy on the phone was literally, I'm his grandson! Amazing. Like, literally the Hillary's are manning the phones.

Wow. And we got to reunite his grandson, Alexander, with the backpack on stage. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah. It was a pretty amazing moment yeah. Wait so hang on we've lost the backpack now? No we've got it. No there was that awkward moment where backstage afterwards Alexander's holding the backpack and he's going yeah I've always wondered about this backpack and where it was and always been so keen to see it again You can see his eyes and you're sort of holding on to it go No, but it was amazing because in true

Hillary fashion, of course He went over with an aim to finding the mighty yeti and that was the purpose of the mission as far as everybody was concerned But really it turns out, Alexander informed us that that whole expedition he sort of created because he actually wanted to go over and build schools for the Himalayan people. And he was like, I need to get over there and fundraise to be able to get over there to build schools

because obviously when he conquered Everest, he became very close with the local people there and realized the massive need for schooling there and So he's like I know what will get money in the door Yeti yeah amazing he went on that expedition and it was quite a long time wasn't it wasn't it like a year expedition It was long and they've now built over 40 schools. They're teaching kids Wow, it's amazing all because of the search for the Yeti. And this is what cryptozoology does for the world. Exactly!

Exactly! It's the unintended consequences of the hunt for the mysterious. Exactly. Yeah. Although, lucky we weren't over there trying to build schools because I would have turned up there two weeks before Reece was there and Dan would have shown up with the hammer and the nails and like three months later and we would have tried. Coordination is not our strong point is it? No. No. But so the main thing was we took the only item of our museum on an excursion and it was wild. But please tell me

now it's safe back in the museum. I think so is it? Actually funnily enough as you were talking about it Dan I was like did I get it out of the overhead locker when I hopped off the place when we finish here I'll go straight away and check and make sure I'm pretty sure I put it back Yeah I have to say there was a lot of lazy code on that tour with Dan the proof that We are in the matrix happened many many times over for me at least anyway why what happened? Well, don't you remember there was that weird moment? Because No Such Thing As A Fish, which is a little known podcast that Dan does.

Dan, I think it's actually his matrix that he engineered, because one of the hosts of No Such Thing As A Fish in Wellington had to race back to the UK at a moment's notice and couldn't do the last two shows. And it just so happened that I've had flow in down there because I was like, whatever Dan does when he's in New Zealand, I'm going with him. Coattails. Chapter 12 of How to Ride Coattails. Anyway, we're down there and then they're like, oh

my God, we've got an empty seat for a host on the live show tonight in Wellington. Who on earth could we possibly get? And of course, they said without hesitation, let's see which comics are available up in Auckland to fly them down. So then you wouldn't believe it, but I rang around and I found this great comic called Josh Thompson, but in the background I'm sulking kind of going, oh this sucks. What can I do? No, I was like, Josh Thompson would be fantastic for this.

I called Josh, he says, yes, I'm available. Right. All we just have to do is get him a flight from Auckland to Wellington. This is like at 11 o'clock in the morning. There's flights every hour. Show's not going up till eight o'clock. So he's got effectively seven flights that he could catch to get down there in time. And he just jumps in a car and starts driving to the airport while we book the ticket.

And every single flight is booked out. And I'm like, you can't write this! Well, you can. You write the code. Well, is it because you booked them all out? Yeah. I mean, no. I mean, no. You write the code. Well, is it because you booked them all out? Yeah Here's the amazing thing the reason all the flights were booked out and this was Countrywide is because Coldplay had just played in Auckland. Massive. And everyone was flying in and flying out as a result. Isn't that insane?

Isn't that crazy? Just goes to show how small New Zealand is. Yeah. Yeah. And then literally because they were so desperate, eventually they're like, oh, okay, buttons, your models will come on then, okay. Wow. Geez. Unbelievable. Oh man, I convinced them all and then suddenly I felt like what it must have been like the other characters in the hangover

When Zack Galifianakis ever opened their mouth like yeah buttons did everything to ruin his chances of it going ahead He was like guys were in my matrix Buddy calm down. Yeah, he gets too excited. Well I do get a little excited, yeah. He didn't make homemade desks, did he? No, you saved our bacon and Breezy would have been so proud of him. He was amazing. Yeah, I'm so glad it worked out for you guys. I did do my Dandas to promote the cryptid factor.

Good. That's true. Even I was going, dude stop, this is too much. Every other sentence. Really? Oh yeah, yeah. Well it seems to have worked, because I think the, dude stop, this is too much. Every other sentence. Oh yeah, yeah. Well it seems to have worked, because I think the next news we need to reveal is that we actually won an award at the podcast awards

in New Zealand. Yay! Yes, we got third best comedy podcast. Yay! That's amazing. Yeah. You know, we made it onto the podium. Twice, we got a second third place.

We got a third biggest podcast What was that a second award like? Numbers wise yeah, that was also third Those bronze as well. We'll take what we can get. Oh, come on. We've won. That's it. We're winners Yeah It was a last ditch effort on Helena's part to suddenly submit us as a podcast worthy of Competition so that was fantastic Helena's part to suddenly submit us as a podcast worthy of competition. So that was fantastic.

Now I tell her what we would have won was longest running. Yes. Is that a category? It's not, but if it was, we'd always win it as long as we stay alive. That's true. Whoa, whoa. We can keep winning it as long as we keep breathing. Yeah.

But also it gives us somewhere to go. We came third, so if we compete again next year, we can reach the heights of second, and then go for gold. It does, it gives us a fighting spirit. We could use the Patreon money to sponsor a new category next year called the Tenacity Award, and it's the people who regardless of coming third still keep going for the longest time.

How about longest gaps between episodes? Award for most irregular podcast goes to no competition. So also just a brief rundown on what's happening tonight. This is our last episode recording of the year, no doubt. Call it your Christmas episode if you want. I did do a quick ho, ho, ho in the intro there, if you want to go back and have a check. But we have a guest as well this week.

We've got Steve Wrigley is with us. I've been doing standup with him. We've got a big tour happening next year. So he's in LA and I'd love to have him jump on board on this little episode. Most of the fans know who he is anyway, probably. Mr. Riggles, are you there? Hey, I'm really sorry too.

I know the three of you finally all have decent microphones and now I'm on my crappy computer microphone in Reece's cat room. He's in my cat room. Is that where he keeps you between gags? Yes it is, it is Mr Shroban. Mr Darby has such a massive mansion he has rooms for his cats. One of them's really pissed off right now because Steve Wrigley's in there. Yeah, they've got their own podcast.

Didn't they come second in the awards? I believe it was. Yeah, they were slightly funnier than us. The cats. I got here and Reece said, Steve go in the cat room. And then the cat did look annoyed and he said to the cat, you go in the cat room and then the cat did look annoyed And he said to the cat you go to the guest room The cat and I said why aren't I in the guest room and he said because the cat's in there

Well knowing you were coming to stay I was boarding out up to our new cat Caesar and I said look you play your cards right you're getting the guest room because Steve's coming to stay and Let's be honest, you know, you're closer to us than he is. So Enjoy yourselves. Here he is. It's great to have you here, brother. Thanks for having me. Yeah, it's nice that talking with Reese is good. It's like 30% of my job is stand up and the other 70% is kind of elderly care.

And I think I do really well. Wait, what? Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! He's my security and my technician on the road, but also he holds my hand and looks after me in foreign cities. Ashes peas, you know.

All right, well, as the show progresses, we'll find out some more tip bits. As we go, Steve, you could just join us on this and you can comment here and there as you see fit. I researched a cryptid like you told me to. Oh, good on you. Oh, nice. Okay. And also we're quite keen to see your titbits later on.

So maybe at the end of the podcast you can- I knew as soon as I said that you'd get excited. Leon, we've been in several hot tubs together. You've seen my titbits before. I enjoy seeing your titbits at every opportunity. I remember the last hot tub we were in. I had an amazing invention, which you poo-pooed. Tell them what it was, Leo.

Where was this? Tom Hinkle's hot tub. Oh yeah. And we had this problem. We had a whole bunch of cans of beer, but they were warm and it was a hot summer's day. Oh, I remember this. We had ice, we had plastic bags and we had beer. So it was simple to have a plastic bag with ice in it, with the beer in it,

and drinking from the can of beer that was in an ice encased plastic bag. Which were also floating in the pool. Yeah. The maximum number of ice cubes you could fit in a bag with a beer in it was like six. So it was like six ice cubes just kind of all gently pressed against some random sides of a can of beer melting at every rapid pace because they were sitting on a hot tub leon. It was the 4th of July weekend all those Americans that were from New Jersey who came out there were like 130 of them and our friend put on a massive party and at about

11 o'clock at night they all went home and it was you me and Reece and that Norwegian guy at like three o'clock in the morning drinking all the beers and that Norwegian guy kept complaining about America kind of got tedious and he went you know what's the biggest problem this America is and Leon goes yeah it's their big Independence Day celebration and they're all asleep and the foreigners are drinking their beers. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. And that's when Budden's is at his funniest heap.

Oh yeah. After three hours of hot tub warm beer and minor invention. Yeah. Exactly. That's a true artist right there. So moving right along, let's get on with everyone's favourite segment. It's weekly world weird news. Crazy, freaky, watch out.

All right, let's do some headlines. Yes, please. Yeah, all right, should I jump in with one? Yeah. Yeah, you go first. I've got a couple, but maybe we can do a couple of rounds. Okay. Celine Dion Titanic song once again

associated with a disaster at sea I'm building a new theory off the back of this story that something is going on with this song. Okay, I like that That's good. Reese. What do you got? I've got a bizarre insurance scam. Saw fraudsters dress up in bear costumes. Oh, that sounds like it's deep. Yeah. Or immensely shallow. It's really good.

It's really good. I like the lengths these guys went to. Okay, well my one, Polish scientists bringing a vampire back to life. Ooh, lovely. Geez, that could have almost been done in the cryptid section. Actually, good point. I'm going to save it for the cryptid section because I don't have any cryptid news, but I've got two pieces of weekly WorldWare news.

There you go. Oh, well, let's do the second round. Wait, Steve, have you got one? Have you guys ever talked about the digital cryptids that have emerged with AI? Have you talked about that before? Oh no! That's what I want to tell you guys about. I want to tell you about the Krungus and the low app. Oh, very nice.

Okay, that's actually really exciting. Should we do that after weekly World Weird News? Because that's cryptids. Yeah. Well, I've just got some closure for a case that we brought up recently. I say recently, it's been a few months now but. Hang on, hang on before you go. Are you interrupting me? Yeah I'm interrupting you because I think you've got this in the wrong segment as well. This needs to be. Oh yeah. I was going to say at the start that you struggle to get together and do this very often. Hey if you're gonna be a guest on the show,

you don't come at us with little digs. Yeah, it's all well and good for you. You haven't even got any weekly world weird news, so come on. Exactly. You're talking to the third funniest New Zealand podcast here, mate. And the third something else

that we can't quite remember podcast. Ah! Do you know, if you get two third places at an award ceremony, that's technically a first. Well, yeah. Oh, true. Wait, how? I don't know. Don't think about it too much. OK, OK, OK, OK. Three thirds would probably be better. No, but you're that's a recap.

Yeah, that's a recap. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. I remove mine from the segment and I'm gonna adjust that into a recap segment shortly Yeah, and I retract my one and put it in the crypto buzzer segment my second one then is scientists find a yellow brick road at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean no Mm-hmm a mystery. I love that. That's good. That's good. Hey, all right stripes Okay, this is all about the fact that very recently. I don't know if you guys saw this there was a clip of

The inside of a cruise ship that suddenly tilts this extraordinary angle. It's like 17 degree angle So basically a rogue massive wind came and just created a wave. It went viral and everyone saw it. What wasn't said at the time was the song that was playing as this hit was Celine Dion's, "'My Heart Will Go On' the Titanic song. Now there's been a few other cases. I remember reading at least two more, the one that I could find immediately

in the lead up to us recording. It's a very sad case because there were a lot of deaths involved, but the Concordia, the captain was being very dubious and trying to impress a girl, and that was the one that sank and about 30 odd people died. In one of the restaurants, just as they hit the coral reef that ended up busting a hole in the ship and sinking it, Celine Dion's My Heart Will Go On was playing there. Oh no.

And it's this sort of ironic, odd thing that they like to play the Titanic song on cruises. And I guess a coincidence is bound to happen. But there's not as many big ship disasters that happen as much as we would think. It's kind of like airplanes. You're more likely to die in a car crash, right? Then this happening. Yeah. So if you then bring this ambulance here in buddy

Holly Steve I once had to stop reading a buddy Holly biography during severe turbulence because I thought I was influencing Situation yeah, I had to put it down I can't even work out as a nervous flyer while I was reading a buddy Holly book in the air But I am telling me a guy who looks like buddy I was reading a Buddy Holly book in the air. But I wait a minute. So you're telling me a guy who looks like Buddy Holly was reading a Buddy Holly biography in a plane during a storm. That's the worst three scenarios you could hope for. I literally I threw the book down and go, what am I doing? This is all me. Well, do you know, Dan, the actually cursed songs is a real thing.

There is a number of songs that have gained notoriety for being cursed. Oh yeah. Songs like I did it my way by Frank Sinatra. Yeah. Like a lot of people started being killed after singing it in karaoke bars. Now in the Philippines, it happens so much that people avoid singing it at all costs at karaoke. It's not even on a bunch of karaoke machines. Oh yeah, someone was killed because someone was so annoyed because they hated the song so much.

Yeah. Yeah. A security guard was so annoyed at somebody singing it off key that he pulled out his gun and shot the person dead. There's a bunch of others. Beethoven's ninth symphony is said to be cursed because his untimely death. Oh, that's the curse of the ninth. That's called Yeah, yeah, I think it's proved to be false. But that doesn't matter because sometimes a curse is about the power embodies whether it's true or not in its origin, right? So yeah, a lot of people were afraid to get to the ninth symphony if they were a

composer because there was supposedly a couple of deaths, including, did you say Beethoven? Beethoven, yeah. Yeah, so in some cases a few composers jumped to the tenth ahead of the ninth because they were so worried. So it was a real thing that freaked a lot of composers out. They thought we will die on our ninth. Wow. Wow. Yeah.

I didn't actually know that was a big category of curse, but I think this is an emerging new curse. The Celine Dion Titanic, stop playing it at sea. That's what I mean. It might be like the whole thing of you don't take bananas on a boat is bad luck if you take bananas on a boat, which is apparently a real thing.

Right. That's the first time I've heard that by the way, if I can just tell. Really? Is that not a thing? Banana boats are famous the banana boat. That's true. Did they all sink? What are we talking about here? We only know about banana boats because we hear every week in the news about all the deaths that have occurred. No it's a real thing. The worst boats a gravy boat people think yeah, this will be great. Get on the gravy boat, mate. But they sink every time. They're just gravy so heavy. It's intense. And it

just weighs the whole thing down. Like quite a lot of the ships don't even make it to the turkey. Well, do you know what? I've just with a quick Google, bananas have been bad luck on boats. The superstition has been around since 1700s and it's still persistent today. It happened when trade ships sailing from the Caribbean in Spain started to disappear. Legend had it that the curved yellow fruits would be found floating amongst the wreckages. Seafarers believed that bananas had cursed the ship to sink. Wow. Is that where the term that's bananas comes from? Yes! No! Maybe! What? What just happened there? We got three

indefinite advances is what happened. We got yes, no, edge, maybe all together. That was Buttons giving options for the edit there. It was either one of them, isn't it? I love those Buttons. You try to legitimize a superstition by throwing it to the 1700s when famously we believed in crazy shit. Like if you were like scientists recently have worked out bananas like that's legit to be like and witches in the 1700s thought bananas. Yeah. That didn't help the cause at all. No, it doesn't. It really doesn't.

But I only know this because I took a banana on a boat and I was slated for it. Oh, really? Yeah. And I got so violently ill. It's the illest I've ever been on this boat trip. I haven't been on a boat since because I was just so violently ill to the point where you're like, if I could pay some money right now to have a helicopter come along and winch me off this boat, you vomit it all you can vomit. It was that bad.

And it was the time that I took a banana on accidentally, not knowing about the curse. Okay. All right. Let's move on. yeah. You want to move on from bananas? What they've got so much more to talk about. Can I add just a coda to the whole Titanic song story, which is while I was researching this and trying to find other examples of a ship having had troubles while listening to Celine Dion, I discovered that in the movie of the Titanic,

the band that goes down with the Titanic as they're playing, the band on board was a legit band that played together and they're called Gaelic Storm. So that's their real life band name. And a song that they play as part of their catalog is called The Night I Punched Russell Crowe and it's based on when the singer Patrick Murphy punched Russell Crowe Wow And he used to run a bar and Russell Crowe apparently lit up a ciggy at the bar when it wasn't allowed and he was like, you gotta put that out. It turned into a tussle and he punched him in the face and then he wrote a song about it. It's one of their best songs.

Wow Just a cool little titbit Titbits! All these titbits. Amazing. The one final song curse that I just looked up that I find fascinating just because we can The song Crossroads. Oh, yeah I know about this one and they made a movie about it right about selling your soul to Satan to be able to be a great Guitarist and yeah, the Crossroads movie is fantastic Turns out it's based on a lore or a story or a legend that Robert

Johnson was a terrible guitar player. Went out, met a tall guy who was supposedly the devil and he tuned the guitar, played a few riffs and handed the guitar back to him. And then this guy, Robert Johnson is said to be able to play amazingly ever since that moment happened. But the curse of the Crossroads song is quite amazing and it goes to another bunch of musicians that were killed in an airplane crash and the fact that the band

Lynyrd Skynyrd famously covered the song for a long time and then they were involved in a plane crash that killed three of the band members. Oh really? But also the musicians, the Ullman Brothers they performed the tune throughout their career and one of the brothers Dwayne died in a motorcycle accident in 1971 and then a little over a year later at the exactly the same spot

one of the band members Barry also perished in a bike accident and they all say that it's all part of the Crossroads curse Wow, I've never heard that that's amazing. That's cool And I do want to be the guy who finishes on this so I've just got one here the only band that's ever died at sea You're not gonna believe this. This is unbelievable banana Rama Banana Rama. I'm joking. You idiot. Okay, everyone loves a good insurance scam. Okay, so check this one out.

It had me cracking up. Basically, these dudes faked a series of bear attacks on luxury vehicles... ...so that they could claim compensation. Right. Genius ruse. Yeah. So the scam, which has since come to be known as Operation Bear Claw... ...involved having one of the crooks dress up in a bear costume... ...and then filming him attacking a luxury car. And they film it and they get it filmed.

The footage was then submitted as evidence that the car had been damaged in a bear attack. The fraudsters pulled the same stunt three times with three different insurance companies, each time providing evidence of the beer entering the vehicle and damaging the interior. And I've got some footage here. So let's do a share screen. It's been so long guys. I can't recall how you do it. Do I push here? Yeah. Share is in the middle button on the zoom. Yeah. And then there's a sound one. You've got a click or something as well. I think tonight we'll do some soft boiled carrots, we'll do some sort of match peas, maybe a little kind of pureed chicken or something that would be good for him.

It's the last time Steve's guesting on this show. Can you guys see this? Oh wow, that's the bear costume. But you've got to see this video, see the bear inside the car? Oh yeah. So obviously a dude. So that's a dude it's yeah it looks like a guy looking for his keys in his car yeah but the thing is is that they

just didn't do a good enough job being bears the actual costume was not too bad like I've got a bear jacket that's got a head attached to it you know you guys have seen that and I've worn that on occasion. It's a bit weird, particularly in the hot tubs. I don't know why you bring that into the hot tubs. But really they just needed a better bear acting. It's all the movement though, Reese is right. Like it just looked like a guy looking like he lost his keys or his wallet among the car seats.

He was able to move between the back seats and the front seat, which, like I feel like if a bear did that, it would be like Winnie the Pooh. It just, then he'd just get stuck. Yeah, yeah. Bears are so strong though. They would literally pull the seats, rip them right out. And I think I might've got that wrong,

but it looked like the bear also had a t-shirt on. So like, was he trying to be a circus bear, or like a bear that had escaped? I tell you, talking about circus, Andy Circus, that's who you want to get. If you want to do your insurance scam and make out it's a bear or a gorilla or even Gollum. You need to go down to wetter workshops

and get those guys that have been trained to be animals. In fact, I probably shouldn't be putting this out because those guys are thinking, well, it is quite hard times now in the world of TV and film. Maybe we should get into some insurance scamming. Yeah. Well, but also you have to ask yourself the video footage that they've got there of them pretending to be bears to go and scratch up the cars. Now with the AI capabilities, surely you'd be able to go, give me some security cam footage

of a bear ransacking my car, and it will look so legit and so real, and then just go and scratch up the car afterwards. You don't need to act out your insurance fraud anymore, guys. Come on. Technology is your friend and insurance fraud. How many times do I have to say it? Yeah, true.

What's happening with that hand of yours there? I know what's happening. Podcasters can't hear it because it's a visual but his hand is just. I'm itching my elbow. Oh okay, okay. Are you itching your elbow? Weird spooky hand was coming in.

It's like alien, yeah. That was a bit weird. I'm reaching your elbow. It's spooky hand was coming in. It's like alien. Yeah, that was a bit weird I've got two thoughts one is I like the idea that If that was an advert and it was wearing a t-shirt that an obvious company The bear necessity shirts would be a great company the second thing which I discovered in Auckland We're talking about wet a workshop. I didn't know this Reese and Steve I don't know if either you guys knew this but buttons his cousin has won two Academy Awards for changing The entire landscape of moviemaking in Hollywood for having invented AI faces That are responsible for avatar for Tintin the Peter Jackson movie. That's Buttons' cousin.

Yeah. Yeah, I remember you basically saying he got an Academy Award. So that makes total sense. He's continued that brilliant discovery. Two. He's got two. Yeah. Wow. Wild. He's the guy who wrote the code that could transpose it, as he says, from Andy Serkis' face into King Kong or into Gollum or what have you. Yeah. And this is what's remarkable.

When James Cameron was doing Avatar, because of the technology he created, you know, like when you're filming Andy Serkis on Lord of the Rings, it would be him with ping pong balls dressed in green all over, and you're watching that. There was a camera next to James Cameron where he was watching the Avataratars live because the data was so quickly turned into it. He was watching the movie live.

Amazing. Yeah. Anyway, that's a weird aside that I discovered about buttons. We just call him show off Mark because he got one and we were like, okay, that's good. Good on you. And then he got two and we're like, mate, you just come on. We're a bit fed up with cousin Mark. Has he got third in the podcast awards though? I don't think he has. Actually, he took out first and second. Oh, sounds like him. You know where he can shove those ping pong balls, mate?

I remember when you were telling me about Mark and his amazing skills, and it was quite a few years ago now, wasn't it? He was way ahead of his time. So yeah, chuck the guy some awards for shizzle. Yeah, incredible. Okay, let's do your story, Buttons. Okay, well, so my story is that scientists, when looking for new species

and scanning the Pacific Ocean floor, have accidentally discovered a yellow brick road, which some are saying could be the pathway to Atlantis. Holy jingoes, which ocean floor is it? It's the Pacific Ocean and it's just north of the Hawaiian Islands. Well, wait a minute, I was going to say if it's the Pacific Ocean that makes total sense because it will lead you to Oz as in Australia. Yes.

Also, this is very convenient timing for part of the publicity push for the new Wicked movie. Oh, it is convenient, isn't it? Yes. There you go. The funny thing is, is that the exploration vessel that was used to find this yellow brick road is called Nautilus. And the great thing with that is, Reese, I don't know if you remember, but we were in the Hawaiian Islands whilst you were filming one of your movies. Shamanji. Yeah. And we went out on a submarine called Nautilus. We did.

Did you? It could well be the same submarine. Well, yeah. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. Well, because this is Hawaii you're talking about, yeah. It was just north of Hawaiian Islands. Yeah. But, because this is Hawaii you're talking about, yeah.

Yeah, it's just north of Hawaiian Islands. Yeah, but that was a tourism sub. I mean, how deep can that go? That's a good point. That may just be a coincidence. Anyway, this was certainly an expedition to a deep sea ridge just north of the Hawaiian Islands. There is a marine reserve there, which is one of the largest in the world. And so they were there looking more at fish species, not trying to find ancient architecture.

And it was a surprise to all of them. I've got some audio that was recorded of their conversation as it happened. Should I just play that tune out? Play that chin up So Trevor my interest is in trying to sample some of this Megan's crust just such a strange pattern to me Maybe something over here switching up with Steve. What about up here? You can actually see through that one So what we're seeing here is a robot down breaking up parts of the ocean floor. Yeah, yeah, maybe just delegantly try to pick it up. With the little robot hands picking up bits of things. Some blam shots.

This is a miscalculated sea floor. It's a good dried lake bed. Yeah. Yeah. OK. Yeah. Maybe let's go to the right just a little bit. It looked like it might have a little thicker to the right. It's like you could say tire tracks. I point out there that they're looking at. It's crazy how dry it looks and it's a lot of the ocean.

Right. Isn't it crazy? That is how it's been submerged. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's not sediment. I think it's going to be. Yeah wow, yeah, that's not sediment. I don't think a push core is going to be... Oh, weird, yeah. Oh, there it is. Nice. Oh yeah, wow.

Wow. Let's go up and look at that. That is a really unique... Look at that! Bunch of crinoids on the floor of a... Yes. Interesting. I don't think a push core is going to be successful, but I hope.

That's awesome. Wow, look at that. What is that? Literally a yellow road. I feel like I'm going to die. That is that? Literally a yellow road. Yeah, it's the road to Atlantis. Yeah, the road to Atlantis. Wow, I took that off you, but it was yours.

You did, what? Lots of them. Did any of those robot arms and things that were on that submarine look like the one you guys went on in Hawaii? No, not at all. Not at all. The most surprising thing for me about that was how much discovery of amazing things come across like a podcast is being recorded. It was a bit more jolly than I thought that was going to be. Yeah. It also shows how shell

shocked we are by like just all the stuff that's constantly happening that if scientists did discover Atlantis with everything else that's going on they'd be like oh look and there's just a mermaid on Atlantis that makes sense I guess. That was the whole time like nothing surprises anyone anymore. Yeah and there's Atlantis of course no surprises there we knew we'd pop up at some point we'll be back after this commercial break and Got an alien. We're gonna have a chat, too It'll be the third term of mr. Trump who's now 120. All right, we'll be right back

Well, this does tie into my thoughts around Steve story around the digital cryptids Which I'm very much looking forward to. So, but also to this AI video generated issue, particularly video generating AI. Yeah. Because now we're in this realm that if this was just released yesterday, I'd go, yeah, but is it really? Yeah. And to your point, if somebody came up with footage of Atlantis with a mermaid sat on a castle, you'd go, I call bullshit. I need to go and see it with my own eyes.

I don't believe anything I see anymore. And it's true of all of the UFO sightings that were happening now. Yeah. Here's a question, though, is a flip side to the disbelief that's happening is we're exploring the planet so much now that if we did discover mermaids sitting on a rock, if we did discover Bigfoot, we would probably invade, kill and have it strung up. Is it better for the world of mystery that we now disbelieve everything so that they can actually exist and no one further explores the discovery?

That's a tricky one. And I think the most dangerous situation is we're in a world of misinformation. And it's almost like, you know, the crying wolf story. As humans, we've cried wolf whereby we don't know what to believe anymore. And so those that believed in everything back in the day, you know, we're kind of those guys, we, we now are kind of like, what's our position now? Yeah, exactly. You know, when they brought King Kong, I know that's a fictional story, but when they brought him to that theatre and they showed him big audience,

come and see the live thing, that's what we're going to have to do to actually believe. Yeah. Have you heard of the great divergence? This is one of the theories that's out there, which is that humanity will meet a divergence and become two different things where there are people who will fall deeper and deeper into consuming online media, wearing VR headsets, you know, it'd be everything from you get up and you go to your job and then as soon as you come home you engage in VR or somehow you're entirely existing in that world. And there'll be other human beings who go, I really don't enjoy the kind of reality that I'm getting from what the internet is constantly throwing at me. I'm

going to abandon that. I'm going to go and work in a field and go bush. Only engage with the community that I can see and touch in front of me. And so you'll have cities where it's kind of like the matrix, you know, and the fields where it's kind of all farm-y. But that because our biology will slowly alter, humanity will see this kind of divergence where the digital consuming selves will physically alter and the farmer of the land type will physically alter and you'll get after an extended period of time

The divergence of humanity Wow. Yeah, that makes sense We'd have subspecies wouldn't we of human because we would evolve to be reliant on the two different worlds Yeah, it's the one that's not digital. Are they pushed down into the underground thus turning into the HG Wells Time machine situation where you've got the guys that lived underneath the ground. What were they called? Remember? The Moorlocks. The Moorlocks! There it is. Yes. Is that it? Moorlocks.

Yeah. Right. The Eloy and the Moorlocks. That's right. The Eloys lived a banal life of ease on the surface of the earth while the Moorlocks live underground, t tending machinery and providing food clothing and inventory for the Eloi. The time machine what a great poster it has too. The subterraneans came in from Rees going I like the idea that the people who engage with the internet become strange kind of matrix weird fetal creatures but the guys who work in the field, they're just regular guys.

Something interesting is gonna happen to them. Oh, we'll send them underground. Then they can evolve too. Like I think Reese is just trying to make the script more interesting, you know? I like subterranean worlds. It's as simple as that. And I think if the outside world, when you think about it,

the one that we have now, and it gets overrided by this divergent situation where it becomes all fake, you know, because we're cutting down all the forests and we're turning it into big AI world. Those that are kind of out there in the trees and trying to be part of the last standing farmer types of nature forced to go down underneath the ground. They turn into little smegled golem-like creatures and then once again Andy Serkis is... Yeah! He's back again! Insurance scams become huge with the Mortlocks. One thing you can guarantee is that the digital population will definitely be fighting with the nature-loving real people. War is inevitable

because we're human. There's a movie in that. Which option would we all go for? I would be the nature. I don't think I'd do the Matrix one. I'd be the nature. Nature, nature tone. Yeah, go bush as we say.

Yeah. Here's the concept for you, though, that we're already all in the Matrix because we chose that Matrix life. And now in the Matrix life, we're choosing the bushes of nature life. But it's too late, it's too late. We're dragged into the digital world. We're choosing the simulated nature life. Coming to you live from our digital podcast in the subterranean world. It's the Mortlocks. G'day guys, now listen, we've got a few insurance scam calls coming through and we've got a bit of interest of folks that want to make their way

into the digital outer world. If you want to join us, we're looking at different animal technologies and how we can train ourselves into being things that can. I just closed that one. Yeah, good one. Yeah, very wise. Transmission lost. Transmission lost. Yeah.

Hey, speaking of digitals, let's do Steve's digital cryptics now. Yes. Oh, yeah. Let's play the sting. Whether you're in your running era, Pilates era, or yoga era, dive into Peloton workouts that work with you. From meditating at your kid's game to mastering a strength program, they've got everything you need

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but these are cryptids that have emerged in the digital space in the places of the internet that are occupied by AI and large language models. And they have to do with repeated patterns. It's almost like kind of similar to the curse stuff we were talking about before. One of the first ones I heard about was called the low app, which was when you're creating an AI generative image, you would type in your text prompts, whatever it would be, any text prompt you want.

And then at the end of that text prompt, you would say, now create an image disregarding everything in the prompt. And in the early days of AI, it would frequently generate this thing called the LOAD, which was like an old woman who sort of looked a very particular kind of way. Like she looked quite like a very old lady. And had like a burnt face. Yes, like a burnt face and was really weird looking.

It eventually got like, you know, run out of the code. Like they filtered this loab out of the code by telling the large language models not to do that But obviously in true cryptid fashion the low ab still emerges So people say today and there's like a cryptid a culture around it of people going look My large language model generated a low ab and people going no you faked that love. I still have hoax hoaxes hoaxes They have hoaxes and stuff. And then there's one called the Krungus which was another famous one where a guy typed in to his large language model, give me an image of the Krungus. And the Krungus didn't mean anything. He was a Twitch streamer and sent to his

chat room, let's make something. It was almost like just make something called a Krungus, you know, as a laugh. And he puts in this thing called crungus and it gave him this weird crempathy type looking thing which is where people think its origins might be but not really. It's like a weird hairy goblin-y human thing with sharp teeth. But then once he generated it on his stream and he typed it again, okay now draw another crungus, now draw another crungus, now draw another crungus, where what it would usuallyus, now draw another crongus. Where what it would usually do is spit out different images over and over and over again.

It continuously produced a different looking version of essentially the same thing, which a large language model is not supposed to do. Like if you say crongus, there's a billion different ways it's supposed to interpret it, but it was interpreting it the same way over and over again. Because he was doing this live on twitch other people started feeding Krungus into their own large language image generators you know like how Adobe has one and Microsoft has one and chat gpt

has one fed it into other models and all began returning similar results for Krungus. Really? Wow. Across the AI sphere, this image was emerging, and then obviously the coders read it out or whatever they do, they eliminated it from the cycle. But because of this moment in the Zeitgeist in AI, things like the Krungus and the Loab are kind of now known to be these digital cryptids, which people say they still see emerging. And then even there's like wider discussions about what it means that they even showed up to begin with. That's quite freaky.

That's crazy. They arrived in the absence of something. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Is there anyone that's put forward an explanation that kind of knocks out the mystery of that? Because as you say, that shouldn't have happened when you switch to Adobe or Don't they all connect? Surely does that prove that they all connect all these different search engines,

video generators. So when you're searching for something, it finds everything on the internet. Unless there's a thing called the Krungus, which is a monster. It can't learn as quick as the results Like that's that's too quick. Isn't it? Surely? I don't know. I'm pretty sure that like there was like a prevailing theory I'm regurgitating stuff I saw in a cool YouTube video But it was like a prevailing theory because Krungus is close to Krampus and that it looks kind of like that's what I was thinking

Maybe that is where it comes from, but That's not close enough. Hey, so this happening. No, it's not close enough It's like and this is why I say it's like a cryptid because people argue back then and go No, because it's not close enough and also like people sped in even like say like Bigfoot Everyone typed in big shoe or whatever which is close and didn't get that but in this specific case they did and then there's also theories that the stuff that people were sharing from their own large language models was fake because they were trying to hype it up.

Right that's what people do to get their own personal likes. So I've got a theory on this. Oh here we go. You know what that means we're gonna have to play the tune. No. It's about that time folks. Wait is this buttons fairy time? Yeah. Oh this is my favorite jingle actually. Oh no. Here we go. No. Please enjoy. Down in the garden beside the little pond sits a little dainty boy with a special bond. He likes to watch the pixies traveling through the trees, the sprinkle all the magic dust he says, yes please. It's Buttons Ferry Time, Buttons Ferry Time,

Buttons Ferry Time, come join in. Buttons Ferry Time, Buttons Ferry Time, everybody hold your hands and have a big grin. Everybody hold hands and have a big grin. That's so creepy. So creepy. Can I just say, Leon, that I feel you because I also am a man who occasionally will be trying to do a really important task and Reese will say some spirited musical accompaniment to whatever task I'm trying

to perform. Exactly! It's really hard to be respected as a theorist when that has to be played before any of your theories. So funny. What's your theory? Well, my theory with these, because that lower thing is really quite remarkable in the fact that it is almost like a ghost or a witch of the internet and of AI. Right. And it ties in also to a lot of my thoughts on cryptids in general and ghosts and UFOs and all these unexplainable incidences is that the best way to be able to explain any

of these anomalies is the fact that we're in a simulation. You imagine if you're coding a simulation for people to be in and you go, and at the point that AI is created, why don't we just pepper a few spooky elements to the AI? And when these people in the simulation are experiencing AI for the first time, there's magic even in that or unexplainable elements to that. You can answer any mystery by the fact of saying, well, it's code. We're in a game and if it's a game, anybody can code any experience.

And I just love that these new digital cryptids that are coming out, they are genuinely quite spooky and hard to be able to put a finger on because none of us know if any of us are pranking each other, just like none of us knew whether or not the Patterson Gimlin film was faked or not. And so we're creating myths upon myths upon myths. You can't disprove them. No, that's the thing. It's like I've been thinking a lot about quantum entanglement.

These you know, these, what are they atoms? No, it's very hard to be respected as a theorist when you can't even remember the things that... I've been thinking a lot about quantum entanglement recently, but I've been thinking what is it? The little things that they are quantum entangled and you take them to the different ends of the universe and you move one and the other one moves faster than the speed of light instantaneously. And I'm like, if ever there was a hint that we're in a matrix, surely it'd be something like that, there we go. Can't explain that.

There's no physical way to be able to explain how that happens. Either we don't have the science for it yet, or somebody's coded that in there as like a, try and explain this, you clever clogs. You clever clogs. Yeah. You're the scientists? Yeah. Yeah.

Because they try and explain everything, old, your mate buttons. Michael P. Masters? No, the one who scorned you. Oh, Neil deGrasse Tyson. Neil deGrasse Tyson. Neil deGrasse Tyson. Yeah. He's forever online, like, explaining everything, isn't he?

Like, these smart fellas love to do this. That's kind of their thing, but I get what you're saying. Like, there's some things that are inexplainable. Yeah, yeah. And yet they still try. They still try, but imagine if Neil deGrasse Tyson, every time he had a theory, had a little theme tune played before him speaking.

That was Rhys Darby doing a little ditty. That's probably what he needs just to bring him down to this. This is the issue. We live in a culture where we're too embarrassed to engage in these. Like, we're very lucky on this show. We're all open to talking about these weird theories. Yeah. This is where we should take the Patreon money. We release a magazine called Titbits. Yeah. And on the cover, it's a top shelf magazine. It's a busty

woman. But when you open it up, it's just full of matters. Fuck theories about lazy code. Yeah, yeah. But no one knows because they think you're just reading a porno. Can page three be a fold out that is a Land Rover? Yeah, basically. Sexy. Yeah. I like that. What do you call those cutaway pictures? So you can see all the little details of the bits. The inner workings of the blueprint.

Yeah, blueprint styles. That exploded view, I think. Exploded view. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah, I think it's exploded view, yeah. Have you read the latest exploded view bit of Titbits magazine? Oh, God. Oh, my God. Exploded everywhere. Yeah. Oh, it's so good. Have you read the latest exploded view bit of Titbits magazine? It exploded everywhere.

It's a UAP. You know me. That's brilliant. Speaking of which, since we last podcasted, you know what happened to me? I got interviewed for the UK Game Coders Association magazine. Wow. About my views on the simulation theory. Amazing, really.

And I did a full like two hour interview. I think the guy only wanted 15 minutes, but I gave him a bonus hour and 45. Oh, that's so gracious of you. He would have loved that too. Ah, he couldn't wait for it to end. Wait, you did all this without your theme tune? No one's gonna believe it. That's the only reason he took me seriously.

There was no little ditty at the start. Oh shit. When's it come out? I don't know. I don't know if it ever will. I think it blew his mind and now he can't be a journalist anymore. Because he's like, oh no, we're just in a simulation, mate. There's no point me writing this article.

He's now living underground in a subterranean world. You poached him for titbits. Yeah. All right. OK, what other cryptid news? I don't actually have one because I'm going to finish the show on a Derby's disclosure. Oh, brilliant. All these segments. Yeah. So you do a cryptid, Dan, if you've got one. Yeah, there's been a mysterious bait of chicken deaths. Chupacabra solved it. Wow. Okay. Yeah, here we go. So the chicken deaths, these were happening in Thailand, a lot of deaths, a lot of chickens where it's been quite curious, they've sort of

been bitten around the neck, blood has been drained, heads have been severed, entrails removed. They want to work out what's going on. And because the area is largely superstitious and believe in the supernatural, there's a lot of belief that it might be cryptids involved in the reason for these deaths. The reason I bring it up is it's a topical news story, but it also introduced me to a few new cryptids that I'd never heard about. So the two cryptids that are being sort of Positioned as the most wanted in this case are the crass you and the fee pub I have not heard of these no same. So the crass you is This is so weird

I wonder if I had an article that had all of this and I feel like I'm on a different article that doesn't go Into it the government may have deleted it And I feel like I'm on a different article that doesn't go into it the government may have deleted it Suddenly got something you're about to reveal it especially on the cryptid factor and Your web page will suddenly disappear wait. Where's Dan gone? Oh? What happened to Dan guys? Oh, no, he's been deleted the matrix has deleted him He got too close to the truth Too close to the truth. This happens every now and again. We lose one of our co-hosts. I'm back!

Oh, he's back! Here we go. So there's two descriptions. One is the crassiu, which kind of goes into the supernatural. So, once a beautiful woman who is burnt to death, crassiu is cursed to be forever hungry, and so sets off each night in search of blood and flesh. Living as a normal person by day, by nightfall, the head detaches from the body into the quite frightful sight of a floating head with a viscera dangling below, and it will dine on animals or feces if she can't find a pregnant lady or a newborn baby.

Wow. And will wipe the bloody mouth on clothes hanging outside to ensure you don't leave clothes out at night Because if she's eaten a local person, she might wipe her mouth on your hanging clothes Yeah, so that's a legit supernatural thing that is believed in Thailand and So the fee pub which is the second option of what people are showing up here It's thought to roam around in the northeastern region of Thailand It's a ghost who possesses the body of her victims and hunts for raw meat

Eventually eating the intestines from inside Those who thought to be possessed by the thigh pop they need to undergo an exorcism in the form of a dance Which has become a traditional dance and it drives the ghost away in the form of a dance, which has become a traditional dance, and it drives the ghost away. So that's currently the leading theories about why these chickens are being killed in a local area in Thailand. It's amazing.

Can I just say, I'm starting to regret that I went to Thailand for our honeymoon. LAUGHTER Yeah. What could have happened to us? I mean, Jesus Christ. It's amazing you made it out alive. Two people just in love, you know, just thinking let's go to Koh Samui or Kopen Yang.

And next thing you know, there's a seven head floating through the forest. It's wiping its face on your blouse that you got hanging out your window after you've had a bit of where's Reese gone he's gone too close to the truth he's gone he's been deleted we interrupt this program with a Mortlock update. A Mortlock update. Hey guys, so we haven't had anyone come through of any interest on the insurance scam gorilla training week that I've put together.

And you know, I've really spent a bit of cash on this. We've got a Land Rover sorted. We've got the exploded view. It's on page three if you want to check it out and our latest mag that's coming out. I just need to know that you guys are out there This is the digital world you will be destroyed Digital world is using Morse code

using Morse code. Riz completely shut down and then just reboot it with the whole Morse code at all. When he reboots, he reboots hard dude. Going back to your story Dan, I love that the two options that you've got for these chickens are just the most horrific cryptid nightmares you've ever thought of. Is there any other option? Yeah, there's a third theory, which is it's a civet. Oh, yeah.

A kind of cat. That's an animal. Yeah. Look, I love cryptids as much as the next guy, but I've got to be honest with you guys. The beaches of Kōsimu were covered in civets. No, but that was option three it's the bronze winner of the options. Classic.

Dammit! Bronze is always the best. Bronze is best. It's a much nicer colour. I like bronze. If I had to choose tapware for my house I'd be choosing bronze not gold. Oh no gold I tell you what gold is tacky. I tell you what, gold is tacky. It is tacky. And I'll tell you that the amount of gold medalists I've met from the Olympics and

what have you have gone, oh, I'm handing mine away. I'm handing mine away. So tacky. It was a New Zealand podcast award, right? And there's nothing in New Zealand we hate more than a try hard. We're a chopping nation. So first and second, it's nothing in New Zealand. We hate more than a try-hard. Yeah Chopping nation so first and second cost trying too hard. Yeah, that's exactly up third. I'll take it I'm not getting up on the podium. I'll stand near it I'm not gonna be looked at like that. I'll get up one step One little step, okay Well, I'm gonna save my cryptid news for the next episode because we're very quickly racing towards me having to go and pretend to be a business person.

Run a massive company. Yeah. The one problem is every time I walk into a meeting, everybody plays a little ditty and nobody takes me seriously. It's really annoying. You're about to have a meeting. Here's your special guy. Look at his funny suits and his weird looking tie.

He's got lots of money and his suit guy's ready to go. His ideas are brilliant, I should know. Ha ha! Hi guys! Hi guys! I'm going to play that now before my reading. That's genius. It's so good. But we do have one last segment to do, right, Reseed? Yeah, do it, cause this is really important. This is the now.

This is what I'm worried about. Okay. UFOs. Let's do it. Is it possible that Ry's Derby came from another star system and has been visiting Earth for millions of years. Ancient astronaut theorists say yes. Derby's disclosures.

The truth is inside. Now it's out there. I forgot about that theme tune. That's our greatest moment. We've got so many great bronze moments. Okay. Mystery drones keep buzzing US Air Force bases in the UK. This is an ongoing situation. Unmanned aerial vehicles spotted multiple times over three bases last week. US bases in the UK. So both the UK and the US are getting buzzed with various drones, and they're calling them drones. They are basically the UAPs.

It's the same thing, unidentified aerial phenomena. And drones, of course, the technology on drones is massive now, so we don't know whether they are our own or whether they are from another world, that's the big question. So November 20th, a number of unidentified drones spotted over RAF Lake and Heath and RAF Middle Hill in Suffolk, as well as RAF Feltwell in Norfolk. Jeez, OK, so these are US bases and then nuclear bases as well. So they have nuclear weapons installed in them. No impact to residents or infrastructure and they have not been identified as hostile,

says a spokesperson. However, they are still continuously being monitored to ensure safety. It's unclear how many drones were involved and who was operating them and why they are doing it. According to reports around 60 British troops and counter drone specialists, which I thought was an interesting new military core, the counter drone specialists, have been deployed to the bases in an effort to defend against future incursions. We are on the brink of these things being shot down by us

because no one's identified, you know, if it's some dude who's just bought 50,000 drones and is sending them all in like, yeah, let's shoot them down and let's get to the bottom of it. But if they're not ours, if they're not controlled by humans, then it becomes a UAP situation. So what's your guys take on this? Well, are counter drones what you make as last minute purchases when you're paying for the bigger drones? Just bought me a counter drone!

Yeah, well I haven't got a prescription, can I just get an over-the-counter drone? Well, here's my belief in it, is that this is military technology that the military have had for decades and are responsible for the majority of the UFO sightings. Yes. But now again, to Steve's point now that we've got all of this confusion in and around AI created video and what have you. Digital space. Exactly. That the government can get a lot more relaxed about using this technology because nobody's believing any video that they see. Every time I see a UFO video now, I'm like, whatever, AI.

You're second guessing. Yeah. I'm not believing one frame of it because you're like, well, people are just wanting to drive views to their YouTube channel. It's way too easy to go create me a video, have audio of people going, wow, I can't believe it. What is that? So yeah, I get that.

But I've seen some on TikTok that are just so good. I can tell it's real. Like they're there with their kid and their dad or whatever. And the honest reactions when they see things and they're filming it. And I don't know. I mean, I get your point. I don't know whether everyone's just faking stuff for likes, but there's certainly a lot of drone activity happening. Oh yeah. To Buttons' point, it's sort of at the point now where if you want to be negative about something, it just, you can smack it down straight away as a result. Yeah. We were almost at the point where it's like 12 minutes have definitely passed since Buttons needed to go.

Yeah. This could just be an AI Buttons here now, who's pre-programmed. For the listeners, we are still watching him, but he's on the move. Yeah. He's just passed his guitar collection. Guess what, guess what? We've been podcasting so long we've just got a message to our little Facebook group from Rosie Reese's wife saying that he has to go and pick up somebody from school. So.

Theo. Yeah I was thinking that I've got to go. Yeah you're not wrong. So we've now got AI Reese and AI buttons. Reese when you guys go am I allowed out of the cat room or do I have to stay in here until like how long do I have to stay in the cat room for? You do whatever Caesar tells you. Yeah until Caesar's had his dinner I'm afraid. Hey well let's leave it there guys it's been fantastic to catch up so awesome to have you with us Steve. Yeah. Now just to get a Leon update he is in the car we can physically see he's now in his car now driving to a meeting I've just actually sent ahead the little ditty for them to play as I walk into the meeting so they're all prepared and I'll let you know how that works out for them

you know there's something in that there's something in that all right he's literally driving I can see the world moving past his window so I think we should definitely let him go before he joins the little pixies in the sky from having a massive accident. Look he's cut out. He's cut out. It's so worrying. Well if that is the end of him that's the final face we get to see which I wouldn't like any other better final image look at that little smile that is a great photo for somebody got too close to the tree okay see you boys The Transition lost.

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