The Cryptid Factor - 2: #002 The Next Issue

Episode Date: October 18, 2008

('Radio station days' archive) This is the very second show of the Cryptid Factor... ever! This was when we were broadcasting live from a Dance Music station at 8am every Saturday morning - much to t...he dismay of ravers coming down from the night before just wanting some phat beats... what they got instead was their minds blown by the banter about hidden animals and the world of the weird.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Quintet Factor, with Gris Darby and David Fadriar The Quintet Factor, with Gris Darby and David Fadriar Good morning. I'm Gris Darby. And I'm David Fadriar, and this is the, well, it's set up there, didn't it? The Cryptid Factor. The Cryptid Factor. This is our show. This is week two. Good morning. Unless you're in America and good evening. It's Friday night. Get your shoes on. Some good feedback from the first show. The listener is saying, cryptozoology, just what you need on a radio show. There you go. Direct competition at seed. Finally, Kim Hill has something to worry about.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Oh, what? The North Korean leader? Apparently. Excellent. Finally, we're going up against him. He's got something to worry about. I think you're safe. You're safe. Watch out, Kim Hill. Look, it's going to be all right, Kim. It's going to be all right. Look, it's an amazing show today. We have an amazing expert interview. A man who's seen a bigfoot-like creature. We've got all the typical segments, the arts hole, expedition updates, all that sort of thing. Weekly World Weird News. We'll have that after the song, yeah. What happened to me, I tell you, a couple of days ago, I was driving along and someone recognized me as often legends.
Starting point is 00:01:41 And, you know, waved, and so I waved out. Could have been a cousin, a friend, or more than likely a complete unknown. You got to wave when someone waves. You got to wave back when someone waves. You look rude. Yeah, exactly. I mean, so then I walk across the road with my groceries and into my house, and then there's a knock on the house, and the guy came to my front door and he just said, oh, hi, Reese, big fan. Yeah, just hoping I could help you with your groceries. And I said, oh, I've already got the audience. So man, then he just raved on about big, big fan of the show, The Cryptid Factor, tuned in last week. He's really, he's into crypto. I like having conversations at the front door with people you don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Yeah, it was, it was really awkward. And I said, yeah, tune in this week and give us a call during the talk back section, just around about nine o'clock. So we'll be listening to him at nine. Yeah, I hope he'll call up. Maybe he'll be at your front door when you go home. All right, now it's time now for, well, let's just, let's the sting just speak for itself. Check it out. Weekly World Weird News. Crazy, freaky, watch out. Now that's the official sting. Yeah, and of course, last week, if you tuned in, we did all our stings live. I did a lot of them, but that's only because we forgot to bring our actual sting that we organized, and this week we've got them.
Starting point is 00:02:52 However, people did give us big ups for our on the spot sting. Yeah, live sting. So let's hear that. Can we hear that actual one again? Then we'll do one live and just maybe you can text in and see which one's best. Okay, first of all, the recorded one, just to make sure. Weekly World Weird News. Crazy, freaky, watch out. All right, that's the pre-recording here, the echo on that. That's a special effect there. Leon put that on a producer there.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Now we'll do our live, a live. All right, all right. And three, three, two, one. Weekly World Weird News. That's a live sting. Let's go into the headlines. Okay, what do we got? Spider-Man director takes on the yeti. New Cryptozoology Museum opens November 1st. World's tallest cat.
Starting point is 00:03:37 And I've got a vegetation. That's not news. Vegetation. I said that wrong. There's a vegetarian spider that has been discovered. Wow. And remote controlled cyborg beetle. And I've got another one here. The tiniest dino tracks ever have been discovered.
Starting point is 00:03:56 That's our news this week. Let's go into it. Spider-Man director takes on the yeti. I'm Sam Raimi, the man behind the three Spider-Man films, is making another movie called Refuge about a yeti terrorizing a remote town. Now, Sam Raimi is the man. He can do no wrong by me, that man.
Starting point is 00:04:15 So if he wants to make a film about the yeti, I'm going to be watching. So keep an eye out for that. Absolutely. And I mean, I'm a big yeti fan myself, of course. And there's never been a really high-budget Hollywood film about yetis coming to other movies. I think the Mummy 3 had a yeti in it.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yes, they were quite good. They were good in a, you know, a bit of a funny, terrible way. But I like the fact that they were kind of, they were good-hearted, good-hearted warriors. Oh, they were good-hearted yetis. Yetis are always good-hearted. Actually, I got the Making Odd book for the Mummy 3. And the concept that the yetis started looking like
Starting point is 00:04:46 you'd expect a yeti to look. But then all those concept designs, they come in and they mess around. You end up with this bizarre-looking thing. It was a weird yeti. Oh, really? Well, yeah, they just changed the whole thing and end up having this massive body, this tiny wee head.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Oh. I was just going to say that, you know, monster movies in general is a sort of a, well, it's a B-grade genre. So that's one of the things about a lot of these crypto movies. You'll watch them and, you know, the effects are awful and whatnot. But if we can bring it over into the fold of big budget, I mean, you know, the only ones that have entered into that realm
Starting point is 00:05:20 are the Vampire Flicks and... They're doing well at the moment, the Vampires. And Werewolves, of course, have come in through, you know, that sort of thing. But if we can now get Yetis through to there, Cryptozoology, into the mainstream. Yeah, and of course, you could count, of course, the Loch Ness monsters into that big budget.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Oh, you could? Anaconda? The first Anaconda movie? Okay, Snakes. So what am I talking about? That's already been done. It's all up for debate and I've debated myself off the shelf. Well, we've got a DVD review at the end of the show with The Legend of Bigfoot, which is one of those,
Starting point is 00:05:48 probably a D-grade movie, but we'll come back to that later on. Now, what's your, what's your bit of news, Maryse? Well, there's a Cryptozoological Museum opening up. And this is the first one in the world. And it's in America. It's downtown Portland. Okay, and the chap who's opening it is... Oh, Lauren Coleman.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Lauren Coleman, isn't it? Yeah, the godfather of Cryptozoology. He's a man. Yeah, he's a good man. He's a living man. And a great Cryptozoologist. So he's finally got his museum underway and he's been wanting to do this for years and it's finally going to open up.
Starting point is 00:06:18 So he's got all sorts of things. He's got busts of mermaids. He's got a giant, giant Bigfoot and their life-size Bigfoot sculpture. Yeah, he says here, after first being established in August, 2003, via my molest home-based Cabinet of Curiosities. Cabinet of Curiosities.
Starting point is 00:06:33 That's exactly, even I've got a Cabinet of Curiosities. I think we've all got one somewhere. That's how it starts, folks. If you've collected a couple of things that could turn into a museum 20 years down the track. And he's finally got it. He's got a giant Bigfoot in there. Obviously not a real one,
Starting point is 00:06:45 but I've seen that if you go on his site. He poses next to it. He's got a beard. He sort of looks... It's amazing. Go to cryptomundo.com and you'll get some information on this museum. And hopefully next year,
Starting point is 00:06:56 we could organize a trip. Ideally, we are going to go over there and hopefully broadcast live from there. That's one of our dreams. Yeah, if it's still open. So if you're in the States, go along and support this man so that we can go there next year.
Starting point is 00:07:07 The museum. Try and be there on opening day. We can have a reporter there. Imagine that. Oh, genius. Can you imagine a gift shop? Oh, my God. I would buy multiple things in that gift shop.
Starting point is 00:07:19 I'd probably be there all week. You would be able to come back. You know, fridge magnets, pencil cases, calendars, figurines. Oh, they have costumes. Now, big ups to you, Lauren Coleman. We tried to interview him this week, but he simply told me he's too busy shifting the Bigfoot.
Starting point is 00:07:33 So it wasn't going to happen. Next up in the news, it's not strictly crypto, but it is weird. They're remote control cyborg beetle spies that run on solar power. Says here, if Peter get upset when somebody swats a fly,
Starting point is 00:07:46 I wonder what they have to say about somebody turning an insect into a deadly assassin. Basically, got a little beetle. They've got a little chip on the back that sends little electric signals through to the beetle's brain, which says things like turn left, turn right.
Starting point is 00:07:59 There's a video of this thing on YouTube. The thing flies like a maniac. There's a guy with a remote there. I don't know. I mean, it's banging into walls. It's banging into the roof and that they're roughly controlling it, but I don't see how it's got any military use
Starting point is 00:08:10 because this thing, it's a maniac. It's hitting walls. So it's the size of a fly. Yeah, it's the size of a fly. Tiny wee thing. It's just a little bit out of control. But you know how sometimes you're in the room and you do see those big flies
Starting point is 00:08:21 that are hitting into your things and you go, oh, how annoying are they? Oh God, but you're right. They're spies. They're already here. No, you're right. You know what's going to be next? I reckon they're going to put little tiny,
Starting point is 00:08:30 tiny, tiny machine guns attached to the wings. So the fly will come in and then you'll hear. Just beep, beep, beep it with little things. Oh, big cuttip by tiny machine guns. Oh, that would be it. I mean, we already have enough fear in this world. Imagine if you're going to be scared of bugs firing machine guns at you.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I hope so. Multiple. You could go for that. Our life's still boring. What's next on the news? What have you got? Well, should we do the rest of the news at the next hour? Good idea.
Starting point is 00:08:56 The next one I'm going to come up with vegetarian spider discovered, folks. So tune in at closer to 9 o'clock. It's time now for one of my favorite parts of the show. the uh the expedition up oh i should just set the stings say it shouldn't know din din din expeditions update i like that that's the sting now we've got to do the live sting as well because this week's all about the recorded stings versus the live stings and the winner goes through uh the next week the
Starting point is 00:09:22 winning sting uh the final round goes through now how do we do this live okay was it uh well you know it just comes out doesn't it all right um you do it and i'll do the underline bit all right ready it's time for the expeditions update so i see that was bad no i like that did you like that it was random what do we have in the expeditions update i have uh this week uh the team is back from Sumatra that we're in there to look for the orang pendek which is sort of like a orangutan that walks on two legs they're back from that trip and we actually have an interview later in the show with one of the gentlemen um that was on that trip um it's a very interesting interview so we'll come back to that expedition in the next segment yeah but they are back they've got dna um from
Starting point is 00:10:05 they're extracting dna from here that they found of the orang pendek yeah and they're currently getting their analyzed so next week on the show we'll have the result of that that that's a great expedition because it's successful and there's not many cryptozoological expeditions are successful and this one was so it everyone's praising it photos of it but it's getting brought down as well by a lot of people now uh also here i've got a note not actually an expedition but uh a leading cryptozoologist who anyone who's in the field will probably know his name mr john downs uh he was actually more on a sort of a holiday in ireland uh when he actually ended up filming as you do um a lake monster in the Kalani lakes and there's a video on youtube irish
Starting point is 00:10:47 lake monster 2009 if you want to check it out and i uh looked at it last night and it's pretty amazing what he's captured there and he gives you a great description so um it's worth checking out uh i believe what he's seen there is uh is not a bird and um uh yes so how big is this thing how big do you reckon it is can you can you get my scale of this video 60 feet and there's a really fast wake uh that goes in the river he's sorry in the lake and he's about a kilometer away uh but uh he's got the camera it's a video camera and you can see a bit of movement in the lake and then there's this torpedo style uh good lord a wake that's good really fast and really big and it can't be described as anything else that would live in that lake apart from a monster is he holding
Starting point is 00:11:33 his camera steady instead of steady sort of a shoulder is he another guy that's actually filming in yeah it is reasonably steady because often cryptozoological footage is shot by a maniac yeah exactly the camera won't hold still sell crypto cameras which uh no matter how hold your whole how still you hold them they shake yeah it's got a vibrator built onto the side so that's the expeditions update for this week i just had a thought if you guys are on expeditions or if you want to go on expedition yourself feel free cryptozoology is all about uh doing it yourself and getting out there and if you find or think you might find something weird in your neighborhood and you want to go and check it out do it and call us up and we will uh we will of course update the
Starting point is 00:12:09 rest of the world on things that you might be seeing so um yeah it's an open game of course david and myself have both been on expeditions david uh what have you yeah i a couple of months ago went to mongolia to look for the mongolian death room and it's all a lot of you just fund it yourself just you know if you've got money in the bank you know just go and do something funding is obviously a big thing especially in new zealand where we don't actually have any money but uh you know it's nothing it's free to walk around exactly you know and you can even you can even put your hands up and pretend you've got binoculars no exactly exactly uh you can you don't need a lot of money to do this an expedition i mean a lot of people are just on a holiday and
Starting point is 00:12:42 then they see something and it turns into an expedition yeah and then will they they get hooked on the on the subject and then they decide to go on it on an expedition and and this subject matter the cryptozoology it's a very sort of a globe or it's it's mainly international but that's not to say that we don't have we've got weird stuff here and we've got stuff to do on the south island next week show is actually going to focus on some weird stuff in new zealand so if you're in new zealand don't count yourself out and how many people have seen a tani fa exactly exactly hello if you've got an expedition uh you know tweet us we're on twitter at twitter.com slash uh cryptid factor we're also at uh the cryptid factor at gmail.com so let us know if you've got an expedition going
Starting point is 00:13:16 on and we will update the rest of the country this has been podcast all over the bloody place can you say buddy is that all right you can say buddy can't you on the right bloody no buddy you can say bloody if you're actually bleeding oh i'm bleeding it's bloody safe we're in the safe zone still look uh it's time now for a segment of the show that we call the expert interview these experts okay that was the prerecorded time for the live sting um here we go on three two one expert interview that's not my book so now the lives are winning the lives are winning people are texting in and apparently the uh the live things are winning because you don't know what you're getting each time it's always a little surprise just to let everyone know
Starting point is 00:14:05 i'm on my second coffee this morning that's why i'm dancing he's actually dancing so i've got one coffee too far uh it's time now as for the uh the expert interview this week we're talking to a man called adam davies now this man um he got back from uh samatra about a week ago looking for the orang pendek which is a chimpanzee sort of orangutan like creature that walks on two legs now the thing is this was actually a successful mission this team actually saw it and so i thought what better man to talk to now brace yourselves this is about seven minutes long but look this is what cryptozoology is all about this is a guy that's actually seen this thing and i began i uh began by uh you know saying to him uh you know i heard you got a bit sick on that trip so uh you know what's
Starting point is 00:14:49 the story with that yeah i'm a lot better than i was last week was a bit grim i was in isolation in a hospital uh and had a couple of drips attached to my arms but i'm fighting fit now or nearly fighting fit yeah what what did you have what was wrong with you um it's a kind of it's a kind of dysentery basically i felt grim on the friday first of all i was just relieved to be out of padang i got out a couple of days before the earthquake struck but then as i as i came home i got progressively worse and worse and without going into too much detail um the toilet became my constant companion beautiful thought there thanks for that yeah i know i thought i'd share that with you and i and i'm glossing over it believe me so uh i went into hospital and um and the nurse took
Starting point is 00:15:40 really good care of me in fact she said the first thing she said when we were never was put in isolation was love you really want to stop going to all these dark places running after running around after hairy men you're better off in me York than ship what advice and i mean maybe that's practical advice i mean there aren't many people running around after hearing me and that's exactly what you were doing yeah i mean i mean it's true i mean i i'd question i'd i'd i'd have her on the hairy man thing i kind of think it's at least a large eight but um yeah if you go to places from the Congo to Sumatra you're going to catch something at some point and i rolled it i've rolled a few dice and got six is this was my time for a one so uh what can you say i'm i'm in one piece now and
Starting point is 00:16:20 i'm kind of glad well look can you can you tell us about what were you looking for over there what was what was the plan originally well in terms of what i've been looking for if i kind of cut back a little bit of history um i've i've been looking for something called the orang pandak it's a Sumatran ape the thing about it is is first of all there's been stories about it going back centuries so it really intrigued interested me and secondly um people talk about an ape that walks on two legs so an ape that walks like a man and this is my fifth journey to Sumatra in search of it in the jungle so i know the environment in the jungle really well right now five trips over whatever what sort of time that's that's that's a lot of trips yeah it's over gosh when did i start um
Starting point is 00:17:04 probably 1997 1998 around that time i mean because i've filmed the trips myself so it's my own time on my own money and also as you know i go to other places all over the world but the Sumatran yeti because i've got so close to it in the in the past um the orang pandak because i because i and i know i've been in its specificity it's always intrigued me uh and and i know it's there i'm sure it's there i've got loads of eyewitness reports so you know i just had to give it another shot yeah and and i understand you were your team was was a lot more successful this time than on previous trips yeah i mean i think that's i think that's that's true and it isn't true in the sense that we've we've we've got evidence before we certainly found tracks and and and and and other
Starting point is 00:17:49 evidence before and we had right hair analysis done previously by Hans Brunner from Australia who concluded that the things that we found were unknown primarily and as did the print analysis it's done by scientists so a guy at Cambridge said it was unknown but this time we've we've you know to to get eyewitness reports from the team and to potentially get DNA i say potentially because it's still to be analyzed it makes it a very exciting and successful expedition what did what did your team see can you describe that because you've got testimony from your team member yeah i'll tell you i'll tell you exactly what happened um but i i'm very carefully based on my previous experience and because i track animals all over the world i've
Starting point is 00:18:29 got i've got a lot of experience so what i went what i specifically wanted to do was go to an area of the jungle where i found unknown prints before at this location at this particular time of the year so i planned it very much like that and obviously i led the expedition and chose the location now the place where he went um i divided the team up at that stage into two groups the group that went with me was with Sahar and uh is the lead guide Dave Arch who's a very good tracker himself as we're going through the jungle we'd found um tiger marks on on on the tree now tigers mark the territory in the same way a domestic cat does so we saw fresh claw marks on a tree it's relevant to the story because as we came up through the jungle i heard a large animal the sound
Starting point is 00:19:19 of a large animal moving towards us so i signal the group to stop yeah and my first reaction it's a bit of a scary scary moment yes yeah well it was scary and exciting yeah if you were there you feel the buzz yeah so you feel the adrenaline coursing through your veins of that word and you yeah it's in the jungle your heart's pumping this is you know this is what is this what is this coming our way so myself and one of the guides peeled off one way Dave Archer and Sahar peeled off the other and but but but this stage we're in silence now as the moving forward Dave and Sahar both see the see the orang pendac to one side now what what it had done was it pinned itself against the tree it pushed its face into the tree and and both of them were absolutely astounded and then it walked off
Starting point is 00:20:09 um uh donnie and uh and i the other guy came around the other side by then it disappeared Sahar so overwhelmed that he burst into tears and now there's this there's this very strange situation where i'm i'm busily giving this poor indonesian guy a hug in the middle of the jungle one of those moments yeah one of those moments that i'm glad he's never on youtube you know and and and dave at this time is ecstatic because he's seen it you know it was it was it was it was an amazing it was amazing experience for them both so so straight after that moment um we went to the place where it had been now it looked like and this is this is to some degree speculation on my part um but it had been chewing some of the
Starting point is 00:21:00 ratan around that area so eating some of that ratan right so at that point we bagged that and and i put that send off an ethanol an ethanol off the top digital in america i can't say for definite it was eating that um but what i can say is that it was certainly found in that location so we kind of hope it was the animal that was eating it but we definitely the guys definitely saw it i've sworn after david from sahara who actually saw it in fact he was so excited he went down to his after he went down to the village to celebrate they kind of threw a party in his honor you know oh wow yeah what what does this thing look like is it like a a chimp that's standing up or what is it yeah exactly that that's it i think it's important to say when you when you
Starting point is 00:21:40 talk about these sort of creatures yeti's a bominable snowman and that people think oh that's bull or people think yeah it's a seven foot tall monster these guys are mad but but what the arang pandek is um based on a number of eyewitness reports not least from from david and sahar most important ones is it's described as being chimpanzee like now as you know there are no there are no chimps in the jungle of indonesia that's a ridiculous notion of course they're in predominantly in africa um but but that's the the closest thing to it it's stocky it's it's like a chimp it's got a sort of v um at the back of its neck its muscular structure is very similar and and and it's got dark or black hair the the important distinction with this is it's bipedal so it walks on two legs
Starting point is 00:22:25 so essentially what we're looking at is is is a unique type of bipedal ape which was demonstrating an intelligence in the sense that it recognized us hid from us and then and then disappeared that was adam davies air chatting about his trip to somatra to find the arang pandek a successful mission in fact we've got part two of that interview coming up in the second hour if we don't run out of time trying to keep the pace up here we don't want to go on you know we don't want to ramble on for too long which is what i'm doing now you know it's the coffees it's the settle down reese sorry look adam davies is a legend he's been looking for arang pandek five times this is his fifth mission which he saw it um mongolian death were in russian bigfoot he's
Starting point is 00:23:04 been all over the world looking for crazy creatures look next up in the show we've got a segment called first time callers and we want you to call up into uh you know let's have a chat what do you think of cryptozoology what do you think about what you've heard on the show so far do you believe that this team saw arang pandek do you think he's a lunatic do you think he's valid have you guys seen something hello oh yes first time caller first time call it did you notice a reboot it's first time oh sorry yeah it's my first time callers live's good live wins it's time for the first time we got someone on the line somebody on the line james hello hello hello who's this how are you doing this morning good thank you good what's
Starting point is 00:23:53 your name my name's james i'm calling from peppercura and i am a bit of a monster freak so okay what's wrong with you got a hot topic excellent what would you like to talk about the panama monster oh the panama one obviously have you heard about it or talked about it yeah absolutely we haven't talked about on the show so that's actually it's quite a good good time to do that okay well i basically i mean when i first saw the pictures i only just fell off my feet it's pretty crazy looking i mean you were so used to seeing um whenever there's like a new monster saying really grainy pictures yeah wanting to make them out but this is just so you know clear and horrible looking with its tongue hanging out and it was quite horrific wasn't it it was very
Starting point is 00:24:35 horrific yeah and and just the way it was killed as well you know killed by four children throwing sticks and stones yeah for those of you that don't know this creature um which really looks like it comes from another planet the story goes in panama it sort of came out of a a cave there was four kids that were hanging out by a little river and it came out and kind of sort of chased them and they freaked out and they just started throwing stones at it and uh they ended up killing it with sticks and stones which you know obviously do break bones and then they uh they kind of ran away and then they came back and started and photographed it and they're really clear precise photos i mean this is radio you can't we can't see the what are we seeing describe it here it's
Starting point is 00:25:15 it's kind of like uh it's it's wet looking completely here looking very golem yeah uh lord of the rings fans uh and anyone who's a you know a fan of cryptozoology definitely knows what we talk about here and you can go online and check it out but uh and the theories go you know what is it yada yada yada and the most common theory is that it's actually a uh sloth that's been shaven completely uh oh it's someone shaved with a razor well i don't know how you how do you shave a sloth but um the theory goes that it's it's mutated so it's lost it's here over some form of mutations oh okay but um i mean that's that's the thing with these cases uh you know people always scramble to tell you exactly yeah and they're very quick to tell you aren't they you've got to come
Starting point is 00:25:59 up with an answer straight away because we're humans with humans with with obvious you know answers but in this case it's it's you know like anything in the in this crypto field it's you know answers will come in really quickly but more often than not they're probably wrong yeah and often and often they are you know i mean i look at that i wouldn't have thought a shaven sloth no it's it's beyond below it's and it's got a big fat belly but then you got to look at the various shots of it and the you know and then there's the ones with the that show the claws on the end which are the very much oh that's free that's freakish which is where the sloth sort of theory came in but that that's one of those is the one of the latest monster stories that has happened recently and freaked a
Starting point is 00:26:38 lot of people out and i'm glad you got the story is obviously i'm a bit of a skeptic so so naturally with these stories they don't really have a life more than 48 hours without you know being revealed without being brought down as a hoax yeah but you know this one if you google it on on the internet it doesn't really come up with anything other than when it was first um discovered and i mean it wasn't just the trashy newspapers that picked it up it was the telegraph right right what is this thing what is it exactly and apart from that when they've taken it away now for testing and that's it oh well there you go so it's actually being tested okay we'll keep an eye on that then so that's that's right up there with the montauk monster which was earlier this year um similar
Starting point is 00:27:20 thing well thanks so much for calling in not a problem we've got another caller here john uh morning hey good morning john uh tell us tell us what your story is what you've got going on here it's not really a story it's just some information that um there's a lot of interesting um reports and should we say uh information on special forces operations in vietnam there's now been declassified that you can look at on the website okay two particular areas there's um there's a job that was mentioned where some guys went up to the golden triangle to do a job and um they supported one of these monkeys and basically bagged one what a manky what a manky manky it was if you read it i think it's also been covered on discovery the first um first thing i read about it so that they
Starting point is 00:28:07 hit this giant man size eight that was standing up and actually came crashing towards them and running wow okay so we're talking like sasquatch kind of level well he said it was it was his biggest he was and it came running towards him so obviously he got a few shots in it and dropped it and you you mentioned they whacked it how how how is that working well that means they shot it that means they killed it all right i'm sorry i was picturing i was picturing so i'm so you're on yeah you've been in the area she knows i'm actually someone whacking it it's also actually you know it's an english it's slang so um okay so they whacking it in the robot the nearest then yeah absolutely so i just pictured someone running out behind it and slapping it on its head yeah all right uh and so
Starting point is 00:28:47 you want to you want to check out more information um just peruse the net there's a lot of declassified missions and there's a lot of different things and that was that was during the during the vietnam war yep there's a lot of different um items and things recovered from the jungle so well i appreciate that john thanks so much for calling awesome thanks man that's what we need first time call is it's time now for uh the uh well let the sting say it all the art as in the art segment should let me call the art so it sounds horrible it's got art and then it's about art art so i'm very proud of the segment i'm proud of the sting um it's a segment about um cryptozoological art yes which includes poetry songs uh sketches and dances so uh the next piece
Starting point is 00:29:33 of uh art we have a caller on the line uh are you there don uh yes i am reese hello hello to you to david oh it's nice to talk to you don thanks for calling and i believe you have uh a poem yeah what have you got for us don well i was searching on the interweb the other day and i found uh some very interesting information about this panama monster thing that crawled out of the cave and scared of those children yeah a popular topic on the day show uh yes so uh what uh what i've done is i've written a couple of poems one of them is in the form of a high two oh excellent so i'll just go through that uh for you now panama monster you scared the children rigid with your pink bald skin and i think you'll find that's technically correct
Starting point is 00:30:22 uh uh no i haven't finished yet i've got some more and oh that's very good so that's a high coup is it that's a high that's a high coup just explaining for uh the you know listeners that don't understand what that is and which is us as well a high coup is that is the form of the palm so in written form it will be like is it uh how does it work uh don a high you've got you've got 17 syllables to use up 17 syllables okay the japanese form of art and um i believe it goes five seven five and if you add those totals together you'll uh you'll see that it's very it's very restricting for poetry it's like how restricting the show is just about cryptosiology it's similar to the poem yeah you're in you're in a sort of a box you're in a zone come out of that but uh it's a beautiful
Starting point is 00:31:09 looking box so can we have that poem one more time the high coup okay so the high coup is panama monster you scared the children rigid with your pink bald skin wow and if we hadn't have done an intro about that being a palm or anything that could just be you saying a statement yeah but isn't it amazing that's great thank you you've got don what have you got another one well yes i have i've got this is the form of a limerick now do i have to explain what a limerick is um if you could uh no no no um okay so we've got the we've got the rhyming uh rhyming uh a couple of things going on here and we've got a a bb a okay um so it crawled out of a cave in panama without a great deal of stamina it ran out of steam when killed by some teens and it's all here in this great diorama which
Starting point is 00:32:07 you can't actually see here on the phone i've got a i've got a griffin box with the side cut out and in the background i've put some jungly type things there with some old lawn clipping in a twig oh please send us a photo please send us a photo yeah i love this and for the uh for the uh the kids i've used uh lego men and you'll see the ringleader there is actually a lego darth vader and i think that's quite good imagery really and uh for them uh for the monster i've used a barbie doll which i've melted on my barbie oh excellent that was that was genius thanks so much this is exactly the sort of art we want for our arts hall and others out there don't forget you can send in your art and your poems send it right we've got a facebook group if you search for the cryptid
Starting point is 00:32:53 factor you can find a group you can add photos to or just email us uh the cryptid factor at gmail.com and we'll also do them live on air as we've just done oh yeah you're listening to the cryptid factor with Rhys Darby and David Ferrier and uh we're going to cross over to our producer Buttons now he's got something to say Buttons we've been getting some uh lovely feedback thank you very much everybody at the Mazda 626 Tim from Wellington they're listening in Wellington guys where's the internet oh is that radio internet genius yeah they are look just for Wellington now we've got a little section uh called uh vocalization hold it hold it come on Buttons Buttons push the button what they cut it short what happened there they didn't cut it short they cut it short
Starting point is 00:33:51 let's do the live sting let's do the live sting that was good up until uh you the last bit you do the noises i'll do the little quiet at the end that they cut off all right here we go this is the sting for vocalizations vocalizations it is time now on uh the cryptid factor for vocalizations a segment where we play well what it says vocalizations of uh weird creatures now the first one we have here is uh a recording of it's a classic it's a classic it's a recording of Bigfoot uh and what you're gonna hear now it's a little well just decide for yourself really all right that was that was uh that was that was Bigfoot that's taken from the Bigfoot recording CD uh both of which i have number one and two and you can you can order those online and basically
Starting point is 00:35:07 people go out into the Sierra Nevada uh forest where the Bigfoot's are and uh they leave recording devices out in the middle of the night and they capture some pretty crazy sounds i gotta say that's pretty otherworldly that that noise all seriousness um that's pretty that's the sort of stuff that freaks me out that's why i put this show together david it is david isn't it yeah yeah what did you put the show together i don't know i don't know how this happened what am i doing here so of course some people i mean it's all very well hearing this in the safety of your own home but one gentleman in the states actually um had one of these Bigfoot's come onto his property he made a um a very panicked 911 call and we've got a hold of that now we're going to play that to you now
Starting point is 00:35:44 in the in the vocalization segment of the show which is what we're in right now um have a listen to this 911 are you reporting i got a strange going on out here something just killed my dog something killed your dog my dog we're flying through the air over the tree i don't know how it did it okay i'm really confused all i saw was my dog coming over the fence and he was dead when she hit the ground i didn't see any cars all i saw was my dog coming over the fence 911 what are you reporting uh we got someone or something crawling around out here did you see what it was was it a person or an animal or i can't tell all i know is that my sensor light came on and i just happened to glance and see this thing running across the yard uh a good-sized man or
Starting point is 00:36:30 something looks like a man i don't know what it was just it ran across the yard okay you've had problems in the neighborhood before yeah my dog was killed here just recently i don't know what it was whatever it is it's running i couldn't catch it if i was going to chase it so whatever it was it was standing up i'm out here looking through the window now i don't see anything i don't want to go outside jeez is crazy but sure see him hello get somebody out here what's going on now sir that son of a bitch is about six foot nine i don't know do you see him now sir yes i'm looking right uh oh okay hang on he's right is he in your yard sir yeah he's big okay what's he doing in your yard he's looking at me okay and the guy is on foot i don't know what it's a big real big person
Starting point is 00:37:18 that's all i can say okay but it is uh it is a person i yeah i'd say it was a person somebody really big but he's all in black is he a black male or white male did you actually see with it or was he just wearing black he's all black and he's big he is big he's all black and he's big he's all black and he's big wow he's an all black was he apparently so that i mean that freaked me out the first time i heard it and uh it's this sort of stuff that got me into the subject really i mean i was into the subject matter before then but this just spurred me on you know the the frightening uh scenario such as this um so that was vocalizations for this week we're going to have more vocalizations next week that would make sense how many vocalizations are
Starting point is 00:38:02 knocking about it's incredible if you've got vocalizations if you've recorded uh some strange beasties or you've you've captured something on an audio device and you want us to play it um please send it in send in the whole camera um send in the whole thing yeah send it back actually just come in with it um now anyway um buttons you've got something to say i believe oh you so do another email we we love the emails keep them coming um meredith wrote in and she can definitely top wellington hello there meredith you're in the uk and the united kingdom wow it sounded like you were going to talk to her live then what are you going on buttons it really stepped it up he's got meredith on the line but he hasn't he's just reading an email i am just reading an email
Starting point is 00:38:42 she says she's listening via the internet oh well thank you very much she doesn't broadcast thank you uh meredith now look we uh we're in a segment of the show now uh called the vault called the vault now this is where we uh this is where we chat to our um our wellington correspondent peter hassel a man who well basically he's he's been investigating weird stuff in new zealand for years he's got it he's actually got a vault he's in a vault we've got him on the line now um hello peter hi david how are you i'm good how's wellington beautiful much better than orcland oh okay typical now go on about it we talked to you last week
Starting point is 00:39:27 about uh i believe uh a lion yeah the lion of taua the lion which which i've never heard before that was a fascinating story what have you got for us this week well um just before i get into that i just wanted to no that's cool why get into that just get into whatever you want yeah just chuck us better in my work no no you yeah peter this is your this is your show as much as ours right now talk away all right well a quick little blast from the past two okay let's go for it peter go for it because you were talking about um sort of quite a bit about harry cryptid harry hominid harry show today yes yes bh m's bakiri men okay okay i'm writing that down like to call them bh m's bh m's got to know your anachronisms or whatever like wtf bh m david yeah not writing i'm writing
Starting point is 00:40:17 that's good for twitter when we're twittering you need to to make short short notes on twitter so i'm going to say seen a bh m and then you know what what what what uh what's the story from the story from the vault have you got about the um the bh m well a few people know that new zealand has its own bh m oh yeah which is seen mainly in the um sort of coromandel peninsula area okay what's the cause long before the coromandel area became famous for sort of wacky back people but yeah well back in the uh for instance back in the 1950s karanaki daily news february 5th 1952 strange harry creature reported on east coast wow persistent reports from the coromandel peninsula say that a strange harry creature thought by some to be a gorilla lurks at the back of
Starting point is 00:41:05 yaro in the wild bush country the mohaw range good lord so this is in the papers oh yeah yeah lots of reports back in the 40s and 50s petered out in the 60s um and it was called the harry mohaw right moe h a u moe h a u h a u yes what what was it were there any theories to what this thing what this thing was because we're not supposed to have any big fits in new zealand i know well the only theory at the time was that it was believed to be a gorilla kept as a mascot on a ship which you know escaped or was let free right um but the only fault was that of course is that gorillas make nests up and treetops as i'm sure reese would know because yeah that's right i've been on an expedition earlier this year to rewanda and of course you've been in a month you've been in
Starting point is 00:41:53 amongst the gorillas yeah so that theory's out the window may make nests up and the treetops don't they yeah i mean not right up and i mean you know very well above the grant yeah yeah they do make nests which is one of the wonderful things about the mountain gorillas why couldn't they why couldn't they be doing that up in the coromandel the tree's not strong enough no well there weren't any nests there was no nests found of course there's only yeah so there's only one sighted but uh there's often a theory a lot of people think there's only one big foot you know or there's only one such and such but obviously you know for them to exist there's got to be hundreds and thousands so there there would be well at least a few hundred yeah six or seven at the
Starting point is 00:42:27 very least i'll give a double second yeah yeah um but the people i've spoken to you think there is there is and they reckon about three thousand of the of the big foots in north america you know sort of migrating at any one time or whatever but that that seems like a big number for me but it's good to know that we do i don't know how enough you get inbreeding like on stewart island oh yes oh that's a big shout out to our stewart island we're not we're not streaming on stewart island don't i have you into it i don't know do you have any do you have any theories of oh sorry okay you're free no i was just gonna say it's fascinating for for our viewers um that uh that we do have a big foot case in new zealand and that's the harry moe house so that's great news
Starting point is 00:43:07 to hear that peter and it's unusual too because uh as i said the explanation given was that you know it must be escaped from the boat and similarly that was the explanation which is often brought up for big cap reports in new zealand yeah uh the theory was a minor tail was that a taiwanese fishing boat had it as a pet right right because you'd have gone rogue you'd have gone rogue our pet gorillas escaped it's okay just leave it you'd be gutted if you had a pet gorilla yeah jump ship well as lauren colman could tell you there's always the explanation for giant snakes and uh phms and abc's as we call the big cat abc right there and alien big kylean i got that one typing that now the standard explanation for over 100 years in america but also even in england so on is escape from a circus
Starting point is 00:43:58 train rink yeah right only enough no one has ever tracked down a single circus train rink no i've never heard i've never heard anything to think of there's always things to think about on the show you'll find you'll you'll leave this thinking something it's always something yeah look thank you peter as always so we'll talk to you next week in another um episode of uh of the vault thank you thanks peter back in the vault we don't let him out of the vault we just um we keep him down there um but he's always you know he's got his filing cabinets he's right and buttons has got something to say well i just uh wanted to thank peter for his call about the uh the hearing man of the coromandel the mohaw monster although i do have to tell him unfortunately
Starting point is 00:44:43 let him down gently and say there's actually my father oh you're joking me he used to drive around the coromandel putting up aerials on people's houses and they called him the harry man of the coromandel really your dad was known as the harry man of the coromandel and he uh also it was reported that he did actually dress up as an ape a couple of times are you serious yeah actual this is actual what year what year well he died seven years ago so if the sightings have dropped but when was he doing his monkey business yeah in the 60s come on he's doing other monkey business in the 60s so that's a theory i'm not going i'm not going to i'm not going to say that it was definitely not discrediting probably entirely no probably more a family legend that's good that's a great
Starting point is 00:45:24 that's a great link thank you thank you thank you and uh and also a text come in uh resane uh hello fellow cryptologist hello back to hello whoever you are uh are you aware that a mega bird has been spotted in hamilton that's all they say wow well i have i was not no i was unaware that if that text i could email us at the cryptidfactor at gmail.com with more information about that and we'll follow that up i really appreciate that i want to follow that up it's only in hamilton we can even go down there and and so we can do that live link and report back yeah now that'll be genius if anyone can see or has heard about this mega bird let us know and we'll we'll talk about that next week we're coming up to a segment of the show now calls are the uh let's say the sting
Starting point is 00:46:04 buttons let's see what's called here dvg review and sometimes books mainly but today today we have oh it cut off short again they cut them short oh look who's cutting these things cutting these who's in the cutting room going i know what we're doing to really piss these guys off we'll just cut the sting off like a millisecond before the end so it sounds really weird anyway we do have a um we've got a dvd for you this week um it's called the legend of bigfoot it's a movie made in 1978 and what did you think reese yes i saw it last night thanks for giving me that um it's okay it's good it's great to do these dvd reviews every week we watch something weird and and we chat about it and this week's uh movie was certainly in that bracket uh i found it great uh in in a few ways
Starting point is 00:46:50 and you know um hilarious nonsense and others i guess the unique thing about this film is that it's all it's about an hour 20 of stock footage from nature documentary so there's not one original shot in there except for at the end where bigfoot may be revealed to you it's a whole lot of it's a nature documentary it's this guy who has put himself in the story but the thing is because it's all stock footage from different from different things when the guy on screen who's supposed to be the narrator he's a different person every time he's always changing it's bizarre is that what you felt i i i did your same jacket on oh no there's a few scenes in there where it's a completely different person which is amazing and but the main thing that drives this movie is the uh this is
Starting point is 00:47:33 amazing voice and i'm gonna play you now um i'm gonna play you three short scenes from from the movie and this guy's voice i really want to get him on the show he's probably dead now let's um let's play it the eskimos call the subject of my story bushman the coville indians have upstate washington call him sasquatch the hoopars of northern california call him oma but right now let's just call him bigfoot i didn't kill for sport i went after the right animal so innocent ones might be spared bigfoot straight faced as could be he said bigfoot's been killing my cattle bigfoot wow so there you go i mean that and that is basically the vibe of the entire film isn't it he doesn't he doesn't he doesn't take
Starting point is 00:48:33 a breath he just talks like that and whenever he says bigfoot he sort of accentuates the word it's always bigfoot it's it's amazing can i just say uh for those listeners out there um that uh if you're my age and you grew up watching walk disney uh on a saturday i think it was a saturday evening wasn't it buttons that's right saturday uh the walk does uh what was it called disneyland no no no it was uh disney nature or disney the disney nature i can't remember except if you can remember texting but um it was a show and uh that very voice was very similar to the narrator of every episode of that uh that the kids used to watch oh that'd be riveting yeah he had that voice and every week would be you know a family story that the family could come together and we'd watch um
Starting point is 00:49:18 that's why we're reminded me of that it was a very soothing voice and uh and you know light hearted but now you could you could you could go to you could go to sleep to it almost or you could be really you could wake up to it in the morning be really excited about the day it could go either way it's that's that paced out amazing voice you could listen to all day if you if you want to listen to it it's called uh well get get the movie it's called the legend of bigfoot i got off amazon it was a mega pack of 300 movies um literally it was how many of those have you got 300 i've gone through and i'm through about 11 of them um that was the um the 10th one and um it's a mega pack of movies and because these movies are so old no one owns the rights to them so they're all practically
Starting point is 00:49:55 free so some guys gone and just chuck them all on about 10 dvds double-sided um and put them in a little pack for us us five dollars honestly them then i think in there there's about probably 2020 22 um crypto movies in there so we're pretty much set for the dvd review for the next few weeks we will review we will review over the over the over the weeks um not only ones that you know are very hard to find you have to get in mega packs but also movies that are available uh in the cinemas and on dvd or the wonderful world the wonderful world of disney thanks for flowing in thank you for that text that's what it was called thank you thank you lisa i appreciate it when you had to watch that with your parents uh if you're my age um my memories oh beautiful um well look that's
Starting point is 00:50:41 the dvd or would you give it out of um out of five um i was thinking about that i would probably give it uh you know if you're the same mindset as me yeah i i enjoyed um you know when they actually showed the footage of the bigfoot oh we should talk about it because he came across him about three or four times and followed him and there was also interesting parts in the film where he talked about the migration and he followed the migration of where these bigfoots went yeah the migration because you're big into the migration yeah the migration of the bigfoot uh and also he talked about how the bigfoot's bury their bury their dead which is another theory i'm interested in and so a lot of important stuff came up in the film so i quite liked it what did you what did you think
Starting point is 00:51:18 of the special effects when it came to actually seeing bigfoot on screen yeah that was the part that was funny for me uh that's where the humans started they showed you know they showed his video footage of the first sighting that he saw and there was this creature sort of limping with one arm out if you can imagine i'm doing it now it's kind of like you know that i'm a little teapot dance where you've got one arm out and one sort of back like a teapot and then limping across some sort of uh marsh and then um he said this was the video footage of it and no one would believe it you know there was people just thought on it's hoax and he said he um you know he talked about why the thing was limping he thought it had polo and also that it had polio it had you know polo
Starting point is 00:51:59 polo's a sport sorry guys uh he was just coming back from polo and that's why he was in that sort of strained himself yeah and it's an intense sport you know i had a had a wee chuckle there another part in the film um i wish you could see that impression i was doing there a lot of this a lot of this we'll take a photo and put it on okay here we are doing it now quickly because it's very official i've got a it's an iphone i've just got a i'm a little teacup sort of stance and then you've got a hobble like you've got buttons like you've got polo before you get the lighting right there we go sorry listeners it's a very visual thing going on right now that'll be on facebook later you'll be able to see that now uh the other part of the film that really intrigued me was where
Starting point is 00:52:40 he went to uh uh an old village and uh this this chap from uh from yesteryear uh said to him yes well my my mother died and uh we all sort of got around and to do the sort of um funeral and you know talk about the the death of the mother and this was years ago this was in the late late 60s and then um then there was a uh a terrible noise outside which if you've heard the vocalization early on the show that would have been the noise it was a terrifying of a terrifying bigfoot and they looked out the window and there was a bigfoot there and they believed that the mother's death had channeled into the bigfoot and oh and this is what he talks about in the film that it's possible yeah it's intense it does get intense sometimes there's an example of the paranormal and cryptozoology
Starting point is 00:53:28 kind of melding into one sort of weird unit intertwining who's not to say that we don't become bigfoot when we die there's a thought is there now look we've got some feedback buttons i believe uh yes i know so i'm just getting over that um we uh we uh uh we've got some actually lots of wonderful things somebody reckons we should review harry and the hendersons oh no that's definitely no no harry and the hendersons and we've also got a magyver episode coming up that features a bigfoot as well an amazing episode magyver actually fights a bigfoot will we talk about them in weeks to come oh man and also we've got somebody saying uh guys just tuned in i'm very interested in the subject nobody gives their names so we can't credit you sorry
Starting point is 00:54:06 about that we could read out your cell phone number but it's probably no good idea can you just give fake names but fake names okay this is ones from marky mark and the funky bunch uh does anyone know how much me the lost tapes was fair dinkum thought the big axe one was okay does that make you sense the lost tapes it's a good series it's um i think it's into its third season on the discovery channel tune in they featured the mongolian death worm last weekend uh there's what are they it's sort of reenactments aren't they rice yeah they are they're basically um a combination of everyone's eyewitness reports and what they've done is they've made visual reenactments of people's reports so it's what you're watching uh you know isn't real but it looks real and it's based on
Starting point is 00:54:46 stuff that's happened around there's actually little bits of real in there all right well it's time for us to wrap up our show it's been uh amazing it's week two i think you'll agree probably 100 times better oh it's been joyous and the first week we haven't done radio before no this is our first time so feel under control today give us give us an ounce is that the right term give us an ounce we'll take a lot we'll take a mile because we do talk over the top of each other a lot uh if you've got any comments about that um we need hand signals yeah no just when i'm talking david be quiet that's a simple rule i'd like to do a big shout out to everyone that got involved uh this week we had don brownmark with the poetry and uh we had the we had chris with his poem which was
Starting point is 00:55:26 awesome uh those people that chatted to us online on the talk back section uh section which was uh james and john and john from vietnam peter can i come in yep peter hassel in the vault so he's asking permission now to come in that's good i like this can i talk there's a lot of ego in this room there should be a buzzer and uh a special thank you to our carl and the sargonauts um an amazing group from uk who made our amazing theme tune they're legends we're going to play it in a sec follow us um remember on twitter.com slash cryptid factor uh we've got a facebook group the cryptid factor and email us on the cryptid factor at gmail.com here's carl and the sargonauts and we'll see you next week. bye. bye-bye the cryptid factor with riss dobby and david farrier
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