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Vote Gasm 2020. Super Tuesday. Enough of
this one state at a time bullshit. Welcome to the Daily Show everybody.
Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you for coming out. Take a seat.
This is it. I'm Trevor Noah. And tonight we are coming to you live on Super Tuesday.
That's right, folks. Thank you so much for coming in a today.
The big Democratic primary voting night is officially here. This is the big night when Democrats in 14 states across America will decide whether
the Democratic nominee should be an old man or an even older man.
Now remember, Super Tuesday is super important because whichever nominee comes out on top
tonight gets a big boost in the race for the Democratic nomination.
And you also get all the losing candidates lunch money. So let's kick it off with a few of the results of the results th states th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th 14 th tonight gets a big boost in the race for the Democratic nomination and you also get all the losing candidates lunch money so let's
kick it off with a few of the results that we already know right Vermont was
easily won by the original founder of the state Bernie Sanders already off to a
win and and we know that Colorado has also gone his way but it's looking like tonight is all about Joe Biden,
because black voters just put him over the top all across the South.
In Virginia, he won by 30%.
And he's also been declared the winner in North Carolina and in Alabama.
So right now, black people are embracing Biden so hard.
I wouldn't be surprised if he rolls up to his next debate speech,
just like, Wakanda for, you know the thing, you know the thing.
Now, we can also report that Michael Bloomberg
has won the territory of American Samoa.
Yeah, which means he gets their delegates
and full control of their Girl Scout cookies.
It's not thin mince, but it's something. Now, here's a thing. Every network tonight can give you the primary results as they happen.
But here at the Daily Show, my friends,
we've invested in technology that can predict who will win every state before the votes are even counted.
So let's turn to our senior election analyst, Ronnie Chang, everybody.
Ronnie, standing by at our state-ofthe art daily show votecaster Ronnie, let's
not waste any time.
What have you got for us?
That's right, Trevor.
Thanks to the vote cast, I can tell you who has won the biggest prize of the night?
California.
Oh, damn, sorry, I just need to log in here.
shit. Okay, uh, sorry, I just need to log in here. Shit, okay.
Sorry, I just got to remember my password here.
We're just, just put in the password.
We gotta go, we're live, we're live, we gotta go.
Yeah, yeah, what was it again?
I haven't used this thing in like four years now.
What was it?
Uh, what was it?
What was I into four years ago? All my passwords are like something to do with pop culture. So what was it? Was this something to do with Deadpool?
Or was it Lincoln?
Was that four years ago?
Or was that?
I mean, it was a great movie either way.
But maybe it was, was it?
Hiddle Swift?
I mean, uh, was it?
Hiddle Swift?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I really think that's what the password is,
but I don't want to get locked out.
You just click forgot password, Ronnie.
Okay, geez, someone's in a rush.
All right, fine, I'll just click forgot password here.
Oh, damn, oh, security question.
Who is your best friend? Well, Ronnie, that's easy. We don't have time for this.
Just write my name.
You always say we're best friends.
Write my name.
Let's go.
Well, I mean, you're a good friend, but I mean, you're definitely the best friend in the room,
but you're not like security question, best friend, right?
I mean, someone just comes to mind immediately. Who is it is it? Roy, is it Roy? Is it Desi?
I mean, it's definitely not Michael Carstow.
God, you know what, Ronnie, this is,
we're alive, we don't have time for this.
I'm so sorry everyone.
We figure it out, figure it out.
We'll check in with Ronnie.
the teck in to clean up, right? But then after Biden dominated South Carolina, he was neck and neck with Bernie.
And what's propelled him even further
was getting help from a few new friends.
Former Vice President Joe Biden is riding into Super Tuesday
on a fresh wave of support.
Three of his former rivals, Pete Budauchar,
and Betto O'Rourke made last-minute endorsement
before today's critical votes. At a dueling rally, Senator Bernie Sanders spoke in Minnesota,
Senator Klobuchar's home state, where he extended an olive branch.
To all of Amy and Pete's millions of supporters,
the door is open.
the door is open, but close it after you walk in.
Air conditioning is in cheap.
Come on, quickly, quickly, quickly. But yes, last night was big for Joe Biden because he got
all the endorsements of his former rivals. Yeah, Budajejjjjjjjjjjjj to say Joe is the only
one who could unite the party. Clobashar came out to say that Joe is the
best choice for moderates and better or rock came out to remind people he still exists.
I was the guy who dropped the F bombs.
So you don't have to be a genius.
You don't have to be a genius to notice that the Democratic Party right now is at a
crossroads.
On one side, you've got Bernie's revolution.
On the other side, Biden's return to normalcy. Now some people fear that thiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. the thi. the the the the the the the the the thi. the thi. that destroys the Democrats. And Donald Trump wants to do his part to make sure that happens.
I think it's rigged against Bernie, but maybe he'll pull it through.
It was rigged against me four years ago and I pulled it through.
I think it's rigged against Bernie.
Budge just went out and said something and probably they'll say, hey, look, if I win, I'll put you in the administration. That's called quid pro quo, right?
Quid pro quo.
Yeah, something tells me the only thing Trump has learned from the entire Ukraine
scandal is the phrase quid pro quo.
You know what it's like, it's almost like Trump has one of those word of the day
calendars, but every word is a crime he personally committed? If you ask me, this whole nomination is being M. Bezels.
But Trump isn't the only thing, plaguing the Democratic primary right now.
There's also an actual plague.
You see, because the coronavirus is out there, right?
And there are concerns that Democratic voters are not going to turn out the way people expect them to because they don't want to pick up the same pen that a thousand people have already coughed on.
So to put the voters at ease,
the Democratic Party had to improvise.
Super worries on this Super Tuesday,
not over how voting is going,
but how this virus is spreading.
We've given hand sanitizer,
their to to use hand sanitizers, just proper hygiene.
Some are actually sending greeters to people's cars to take their ballots right from them
so that nervous voters don't have to interact with the public.
The polling locations aren't very busy inside because of drive-by voting.
Hey, are you changing it from Klobuchar or Bur-O-Duh?
Yeah. So you're coming in and you're going to market differently.
Yeah.
Can we ask you who?
Okay, no, no answer.
Yeah, because of coronavirus, polling sites, polling sites are giving people a hand sanitizer,
they're giving them gloves.
And some states have even instituted drive-by voting, which is apparently not as cool
as it sounds. No, because when they said drive-by voting, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, too, too, too. tooooooooooooooooooooooooo.a, too. too. too. too, too, too, too when they said drive-by voting, I thought it means someone pulls out of nowhere
and just like, this is for Medicare, bitch!
Ah!
Ah!
I voted, I voted, I voted.
Now, while election officials are trying their damned
is to limit the spread of the coronavirus
between voters, at a Bernie rally in Minnesota last night,
Congresswoman Ilhan Oma seemed to be going for a completely different approach. Are you all ready for this revolution?
I want each one of you in the audience to take a quick moment with me.
Hold the hand of the person to your right. You're right? It's gonna be alright. No, it's not. What are you the-
It's gonna be all right?
No, it's not.
What are you doing?
This is like, step-by-step instructions for spreading coronavirus.
Okay, now lick your finger and put it in your neighbor's nose?
And at first I was like, why is Il-Homar doing?
This is just crazy.
But then, I was like, oh man, this is actually genius when you think about it, right?
Because just just think about it.
You've got all of those people in that room, right?
And what are all those people going to need after the germs have been exchanged?
Free health care.
Who do you get free health care from?
Bernie Sanders. Boom.
3D chess.
3D chess.
All right.
I've just been told that Ronnie Chang finally has his vote castor back up and
running and we can see which Democratic candidate has won the big one, California.
So Ronnie, I guess this means you've figured out who your best friend is?
Yes, yes, yes. I did. Trevor, it turns out my best friend is Phoebe, okay?
She was always my favorite.
But now I'm stuck in this stupid capture thing. All right? Let me walk you through this.
So you're supposed to click the squares that contain traffic lights.
Ronnie, everyone knows how it works.
Just click on the traffic lights.
Let's move on.
Yeah, okay, Einstein.
It's not that easy, all right?
I mean, sure, this one's it starts to get tricky, okay?
Because like, this one's clipping the edge over here.
Is this a traffic light?
And I mean, you got the pole here,
is the pole part of the traffic light?
I mean, is this a trafic light?
In fact, you know what? Okay, okay, let me ask, okay, okay, let, let th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that. that. th. th. this. this one's. this one's. this one's. this one's. this one's. this. this. this. this. this. this. th. this. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. this is. this. this. this. this is is is cli. t. toge. this. this. this. this. this one's is clippe. this one's. this one's here? Who thinks this is tri-like? No, don't encourage it.
Ronnie, why are you making this such a big deal?
Just click the poll.
Who cares?
Uh, Trevor, I care, okay?
Because if I get this wrong, I'm a robot.
I'm a robot.
Ronnie, we just want you even tell you if I'm a robot right now, okay? All right, you know what, Ronnie, you have your existential crisis and we'll come back
to you when you know what's actually going on. I'm so sorry, guys, this is horrible.
Now, this isn't just a big night for Bernie, Biden, and the coronavirus.
Perhaps the candidate who has the most writing on tonight is Mike Bloomberg, former New York City mayor and a threat. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, toe, thi, toe, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, toe, thi, thi, toe, toe, thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, toooi, tooi. tooi. tooi. tooi. tooi. tooi. tooi. tooi. see, when he joined the race in November,
Bloomberg came in with a bold strategy of completely ignoring the first four
primaries and instead betting his entire campaign on making a big splash on
Super Tuesday. And to make that happen, he's been spending money harder than a
dad at Chuck Echie Cheese trying to keep custody of his kids. By Super Tuesday,
Tuesday, the candidates will have spent more than a billion dollars on the airwaves.
Bloomberg alone accounts for half that spending.
That spending includes more than 1 million a day on Facebook.
Bloomberg has spent approximately $82 every second just in the month of January.
Biden's campaign buying only $4,000 of digital ads in California, $4,000.
While Bloomberg has spent $78 million
on ads in that state alone.
Bloomberg has hired 2,400 staffers cornering the market.
Bloomberg's also snaffling up all the good staffers
by paying them twice what other campaigns offer,
as well as throwing in laptops and the last iPhones,
and for some lucky staffers, fully furnished luxury apartments for them to stay in.
Mike Bloomberg spent $11,000 on sushi,
which equates to 9,000 sushi rolls
from the New York restaurant they ordered from.
God damn!
Bloomberg spent $11,000 on sushi?
Yo, for that kind of money, I better be eating the Little Mermaid.
That's a shit ton.
But I mean, for Bloomberg, though, spending $11,000 on sushi is nothing.
In fact, this guy is so rich, he did something over the weekend that no other candidate has the
money nor the ego to do.
He bought out an entire commercial break. Mike Bloomberg actually ran an ad yesterday, spent about a million dollars doing it a three-minute
ad designed to look a little bit like an oval office address.
Good evening.
I know this has been a very worrisome week for many Americans.
The coronavirus is spreading and the economy is taking a hit.
As Americans, we've faced many challenges before and we have overcome them together
by looking out for one another and
I'm confident that is how we will get through this one as well. I'm Mike
Blumberg and I approve this message. You know there's rich and then there's
billionaire rich because you realize this guy made his own Oval Office and
then bought his own presidential address. I didn't even know you
could do that. Yeah. And it looks legit.
I bet some people were confused.
You know Trump was watching that like,
the president is talking.
Shut up everybody.
Like, sir, you're the president.
I'm Mike Bloomberg.
So Bloomberg spent over a million dollars to convince all of us that he's the man to defeat coronavirus. But then a video Bloomberg released yesterday of him eating pizza
suggests that he actually may and touches everything else.
That is so disgusting.
I bet the coronavirus watched that and I was like, oh, I need to wash my hands.
Oh.
So, just remember, Mike Bloomberg has spent over half a billion dollars trying to win this nomination.
But all that money seems to have bored him is people digging up skeletons from his past
and a debate where Elizabeth Warren completely burned him to the ground.
In fact, that night was such a humiliating one that Donald Trump has even made it part
of his latest comedy routine.
She was really mean to Minimic Mike, I'll tell you, the way she treated it.
He didn't know what hit him.
He's going, oh, get me off of this stage.
Get me off.
Get me off of this stage. Oh shit! That was some pretty good comedy. I don't know what I'm more impressed by
Trump's Bloomberg impression or the fact that he was able to do a squat.
That was a pretty slick. I don't know what I'm more impressed by Trump's Bloomberg impression. Or the fact that he was able to do a squat.
That was pretty slick.
So after 15 weeks of everyone asking the question,
can a billionaire buy the election,
tonight we might have gotten our answer.
Michael Bloomberg is having a terrible night.
Bloomberg is sinking like a rock.
Mike Bloomberg, who is fair to say not having the night he thought he paid for.
Campaign officials tell my colleague Josh Letterman that Bloomberg will now reassess the campaign
and once the data comes in.
That's right, folks. It looks like yet again, Bloomberg has come up short.
Wow!
I actually feel bad for this guy, man.
Think about it. He came into this race with $60 billion, and now he has what? 59 and a half billion dollars? I would not want to be him
right now. All right before we go to an ad break let's quickly check in with
Ronnie Chang and the vote cast and see if he can give us anything. Ronnie please
tell me you're up and running. Yes, yes, yes I'm in now and let's find out
who won at California. Mmm.
Oh, oh, damn, sorry.
Okay, we just got away for this ad to play out.
Ronnie, are you, are you, are you see ads?
Why didn't you just pay for the premium version?
Okay, because Trevor, some of us don't have to
to the tollin' a month this ball out of control, all right?
Sorry, Forbes. Besides, it's just an ad, okay? I can just skip it. It's over before you know it, all right? You just have to press, skip, and, um,
oh, oh, oh, oh, sorry, I accidentally,
I accidentally opened the ad, okay, damn,
okay, you know what, this one's on me, I'm sorry,
this is my bad, my bad.
Actually, you know what, that. I mean, I mean, how does it know? It's like you talk about it and it just shows up. Are you, are you being serious right now, Ronnie? Yeah, yeah,
I mean, I think letters coming back, right? Uh, your spring's gear. I think I can pull this
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This is 60 Minutes.
It's a kind of a magazine for television.
Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives.
But that's all about to change.
Like none of this stuff gets looked at.
That's what's incredible.
I'm Seth Done of CBS News.
Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look,
starting September 17, wherever you get your podcasts.
Welcome back to the game show, where we're coming to you live for Super Tuesday.
So let's check in on some more results.
Joe Biden has come out on top in Oklahoma.
He's also won the state of Arkansas.
And here's some exciting news.
Tulsie Gabbard has won $3 in a scratch-of lottery ticket.
That's so cool, I never win in those. So we've gotten results from a number of states,
but the biggest state of the night is still up in the air, California.
And I feel like I'm going to regret this, but let's try one more time with Ronnie
with Ronnie, do you know who's winning yet?
Yeah, Trevor, this guy.
This guy!
Oh my God, it fit right off the rack.
Did you believe that?
That never happens.
Look at this.
I don't care about your red leather jacket.
Just tell us who's winning in California, please.
Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry, you got you, Trevor.
Okay, let's start in Alameda County, California, where, uh, as you can see,
oh, oh, damn, the battery's dead.
Are you serious, Ronnie?
Yeah, yeah, but it's okay, it's fine.
I just need a USB cord, but like, the USBC, not the one everyone has, the one that no one
has. Does anyone have that?
Thanks for nothing, Ronnie Chang.
Now, we spent a lot of time tonight talking about the candidates. But campaigns campaigns the campaigns the campaigns are th campaigns are th campaigns are th campaigns are tha tha tha tho thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thousa thousa thousands thousands thanks, thanks, thanks, it's thanks, it's to tooes, it's tooes, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's to thi, it's to thi, it's to to thi, than, than, than, than, too too too-a too-a, too-a, to-a, to-a, to-a, than, than, than, thi, than, talking about the candidates. But campaigns are much more than just the candidates. There are thousands of staffers, donors and everyday people
supporting the candidates. And our own Desiletic caught up with one specific
supporter who's contributing to his candidates in his own special way.
With Super Tuesday at an end, let's salute the real heroes of this election.
Campaign volunteers working tirelessly for candidates they believe in. At an end, let's salute the real heroes of this election, campaign volunteers, working
tirelessly for candidates they believe in.
And one Elizabeth Warren fan has been doing more than just giving you flyers to throw
away.
So anyone that shows me proof of a donation to Elizabeth Warren's campaign, I give them one
month of free access to my personal porn account.
Come again?
Sorry, can you unpack that for me?
Yeah.
You know what I mean.
Yes.
I love Warren.
I love her policies.
So I give free access to my only fans account and I post videos of myself, um, having
sex, fucking, fucking, p-feeze, a dominoes pizza.
So, let me get this straight.
You're doing fucking, fucking, f-fee-fis, and
f-fing on a dominoes pizza for Elizabeth Warren?
That is correct.
But what is it about Warren that made Kenny take matters into his own hand?
Number one, one of her policies specifically is health care.
I am a type 1 diabetic.
And I am going to turn 26 in two months
and lose my health insurance.
It's terrible.
Not only that, but 26 is basically retirement age for a porn star.
Yet Kenny is still willing to give up his earnings for Warren.
But how much are we talking?
So I charged $9.99. For a year? A month. That's
more than Disney Plus. I mean if Elsa starts shoving Adeldo up her butt, maybe
Disney Plus should start charging more. Um. Well, I mean, I'll tell you something,
if I could see Baby Yoda's butt hole, I'd max out for Warren too. People think baby Yoda is cute but I know
he nasty. Yeah. Don't look at me like that. Okay. He's 50. He's just supposed to look like
a baby. Okay. And I started this campaign last Wednesday and I have raised close to if not exceeded
about $6,000. You've raised $6,000 since Wednesday?
Yeah. All these people literally just want to see my butt hole. And to raise
money for Elizabeth Warren. Absolutely that as well. As more and more candidates
drop out, you can just feel the general election poking through.
It's obvious Kenny is flexible, but does that flexibility extend to his political loyalties?
Has Elizabeth Warren always been your candidate? is flexible, but does that flexibility extend to his political loyalties?
Has Elizabeth Warren always been your candidate or did you ever think about doing a yang
bang?
Um, no, I'm, I'm team Warren all the way.
What if a more moderate candidate wins the nomination?
Would that just be like over the shirt stuff or?
I don't even know if I would have a sex drive at that point. You could experiment. I mean, have you ever tried the sex position where you blindfold yourself and just stumble
around and keep getting in your own way?
It's called the Biden.
Yeah, not my favorite.
Blue no matter who, Kenny's willing to put his ass on the line for any Democratic candidate.
Do you have any advice for young people who want to be more involved?
Use your voice and register to vote. We really have the power to flip this entire country around.
Democracy was built on the backs of brave young people.
And sometimes, that involves fuming on a Domino's pizza. This is Leic, everyone.
We'll be right back.
When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it.
This is 60 Minutes.
It's a kind of a magazine for television.
Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives.
You're rolling?
But that's all about to change.
Like none of this stuff gets looked at.
That's what's incredible.
I'm Seth Done of CBS News.
Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Show.
My guest tonight served as a White House senior advisor and campaign manager for President Barack Obama.
His new book is called A Citizens Guide to Beating Donald Trump.
Please welcome, David Plough.
Welcome. Let's jump straight into it.
This is a night that, what, 72 hours ago,
people said wouldn't happen?
Biden said he was fine the entire time.
Did he know something that we didn't?
Or have his hopes just paid off?
No, it's remarkable.
I mean, 72 hours to his last political life.
Now he's probably the front runner for the Democratic nomination.
It's remarkable 72 hours in American politics.
It really is an interesting time where, you know,
we're going to witness the Democratic Party once again,
once again go on a similar journey
to what we saw in 2016, where it looks like you will have two candidates
who represent two very different ideologies of what the democratic party is going to be. Looking at the race from here onwards, who do you think has the advantage?
Well, I'm going to nerd out a little bit on math.
So, you know, if you look at the states that are coming after today, Florida, Louisiana,
Georgia, states where we've got high suburban vote that Biden did really well in
tonight and a lot of African American vote, and that's really been a cornerstone of his comeback. I think he could give Biden the advantage. Particularly if it gets down to a two-person race.
I mean Bloomberg obviously probably we can, he's hours, days at most before this adventure's
over.
And Elizabeth Warren's got a tough decision to make.
So I would give Biden the advantage but listen, Sanders has been a strong candidate.
He's on a strong campaign, he's got a strong strong strong strong strong strong strong strong strong strong strong thap a great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great he's not going to go down without a fight. What do you think that fight looks like though?
Because this is one of the more interesting conversations in and around the Democratic Party is, is,
can the Democrats fight but then still come together the way Republicans did before 2016?
Well, listen, I went through a really tough primary in 2008, the Obama-Clinton
primary. So I think if we lose, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's the the the the the the the the tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, the thi, thi, thro, throoooooo thean, thro thro thean.ean. thro thro thean. thro theogether. You have to work at it. But, you know, I think it's really a question between Bernie Sanders' campaign manager actually gave an interview tonight
where he said, it's not enough to simply beat Trump.
You know, we have to beat Trump. We have to beat Trump.
And so my guess is right now about 55 to 60 percent of the party saying, it's enough just enough just to be enough just just just just just just just just enough just enough just enough just to be enough just to be enough just enough just to be enough just to be enough just to be enough just to be enough just to be enough just to be enough just to be enough just to be enough just to be enough just to about Trump, the menace, the threat of him getting
eight years versus four is so profound that I think we'll come together.
Let's talk about your book.
A Citizens Guide to Beating Donald Trump.
It's interesting that you say a citizens guide, as not parties, not politicians, but just
people on the ground.
What do you think people can do beyond just voting to beat Donald Trump. What does that mean? You know, you wrote in your book, actually, the thing we should fear more than failure or rejection
is regret.
And I want people to think about late on the night of November 3rd,
or early in the morning of November 4th,
Donald Trump strides across the ballroom at Maralago with his grifter
and accepts a second term having won the election. How will we all feel? They have Fox, they have Sinclair, they have Bright Park,
they've got Putin, they've got the Russians,
they've got an incumbent president
who's obsessed with nothing else in the winning re-election.
We need all of us to give what time we have on social media.
theirstering because if we have a disaggregated army of millions of people, we can fight back.
But he's going to be really tough to beat.
There's nothing he won't do.
There's no low he won't sync to, so win re-election.
And so I think there's enough people out in America to defeat them.
We got to register them, we've got to turn them out and we've got to persuade to persuade to persuade to persuade to persuade enough enough enough to persuade enough to persuade enough enough to persuade enough enough time Hillary won by millions more votes and it didn't
make a difference.
So, does that mobilization matter if people have drawn a map in such a way that the electoral
college defines the victor more than the popular vote?
Hey, that's the rules we've got to play by.
So what do you think people do in that regard then?
So we've got to win, you know, Wisconsin, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Wisconsin, Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Wisconsin, Michigan, Michigan, Wisconsin, Michigan, Wisconsin,
Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, North Carolina, Florida, Georgia. These are going to come down to literally a voter two per precinct. So one of the things I write
about in the book is if you go register voters for an afternoon in Michigan and
you might register two people you think what does that matter? But if five
other thousand people are doing it that same day and they do it the next day. Right. And they do it all through September and the the the thaphaphaphapapapapapap of the thoomomomomomom. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho tho tho tho tho-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o tho tho-o-o-o-o-o tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thoan tho tho. tho. tho. tho. to to to to to to register. toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. tooo. to enough to voters to win. So you've got to think your contribution in the aggregate. And my point in the book is, I hope we have a great nominee
and a great campaign.
But we can't count on that.
We've got to take ownership of this.
And honestly, if there's more you could do an election night
that you didn't do and Donald Trump wins,
my message, it was a tough message. country back. And it won't happen without that kind of individual effort by millions of Americans. You were on Obama's campaign. It was considered by many, one of the most revolutionary
cross-rout movements. What do you think the big difference was with Barack Obama's campaign
for president and what the Democrats did in 2016 with Hillary?
I will say we had a really good 2018 congressional elections, in part because so many
citizens got involved. Listen, Obama inspired millions of Americans to give time that they didn't
have. They gave financially. They really laid it all on the line. And I think we
didn't have enough of that in 16. I think a lot of people thought that
Trump would lose. I thought he would lose. Right. And Hillary didn't
inspire that same kind of passion. I hope we have a nominee who makes people excited about them,
but I know eight years of Donald Trump
is not twice the damage.
We will not recover, the planet will not recover
from four more years of this guy.
This is an existential threat to the entire enterprise.
And so I think that, but my point is, yes, you want to be asked. to be to tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thrown thrown thrown thrown thrown thr. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thoe. thoe. thi. thr, thr, thr, thr, thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. the. to toe. toe. toe. toeea. toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooe. toe inspired. Yes, you want to be asked. Right. Don't wait.
Take it into your own hands.
Take it into your own hands.
Thank you so much for being on the show.
A really, really fascinating book.
A Citizens Guide to Beating Donald Trump is available now.
David Pluff, everybody.
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